September 22, 2025 • 21 mins
Charlie Kirk memorial updates: 'I forgive him,' Erika Kirk says of alleged shooter. Trump administration set to tie Tylenol to autism risk, officials say. Amy King will jumps off a building for charity!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We've got somebody's mom coming in today who had flown
out hoping to go to news and Bruce planning on
going and it got canceled, so we said.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Bring her in.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
So she's going to come in.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I hope she likes pizza. Maybe she doesn't like pizza.
Maybe we get something else.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
That's awesome, Elmer. This is how Shannon gets us into trouble.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is how Shannon gets us. She takes things too far. Elmer.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Oh, you guys want to go to that bar over
there that has a pole on it and like four
different weird dance rooms.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
No, not really, we should totally do that. Not that
that was eight years ago.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
And did somebody have a good time on that pole?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Great?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Somebody did.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
What city was there?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I am so mad. I never took pictures of you
on that pole. That was Philadelphia. That was one of
my favorite moments in your life.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh in my life? Thank you? Vill Did you score
it like one?
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Performance wise?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Gary?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
He can dance like it is very true?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It weird And when he found that pole, it was
like a fish finding water.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
So five Maybe Elmer I think I'm on a different scale.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
He could have gotten some bites there.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I could have gotten keeping my fishing analogy going, There
was a person in an overalls.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You still remember the yeah I knew.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Passengers facing another day of flight delays across Europe, big
airports are trying to grapple with the aftermath of a
cyber attack on a company that does check in and
boarding software. One company. It's called Colin's Aerospace. The big
concern is was this a test run for something bigger?
(02:01):
It caused a few days worth of problems that extended
over here to the United States as well. Yesterday was
the memorial for Charlie.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Kirk filled up State Farm Stadium there in Glendale. Ninety
thousand people attended the service, another ten thousand in an
overflow venue. This Earlier estimates by law enforcement placed the
attendance in the surrounding areas about two hundred thousand.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
A bunch of dignitaries, a bunch of his friends, politicians.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They all spoke last night. Charlie Kirk a movement. JD.
Vans here.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
He transformed the face of conservatism.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
In our own time.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
He did one hundred percent of what he could every day.
Charlie died with incomplete work, but not with unfinished business.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
Charlie Kirk started with only an idea to change minds
on college campuses, and instead he ended up with a
far greater achievement, changing history.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I mentioned Erica Kirk and her willingness to her very
public declaration of forgiveness. I don't know about willingness. I
don't know if this was a struggle for her or not.
But we've said this before. In times of incredible pain
imposed by someone else, one of the most incredible things
(03:30):
that happens is when that person who has been aggrieved
finds it in their heart to forgive somebody.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
To all the men watching around the world, accept.
Speaker 10 (03:43):
Charlie's challenge.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
And embrace true manhood.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
She very clearly and very emphatically, from the podium in
front of ninety thousand people, forgave the guy.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
Father, forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 10 (04:05):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We've talked about faith and the way the very important
role it plays in in the face of tragedy, no
matter what it is, you know, and there's no competition
on which tragedy is the worst. But you know when
you see a parent lose their child, when you see
(04:40):
these school shootings or church shootings or what happened with
Charlie Kirk, how people that are connected to God seem
to fare better.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
They just seem to handle it better, they seem to
heal better.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
They have a built in community, for one thing.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
They have a built in community.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And the forgiveness, as crazy as it sounded, and we
sat here what ten years ago, I don't know. I
don't remember the first time we heard this, but we've
talked about it, like you said, numerous times, and I thought,
I'll never get there. I could never get there. I
could never forgive somebody who did this. But the more
you think about it, and the more you talk to
(05:23):
people who are people of faith, the forgiveness is for you.
It frees you from being filled with hate and leading
your life like that like that is a heavy ass
burden if you're just going to keep that hatred burning
in your heart forever. You know, to forgive the person
who killed her husband is to unleash that from herself.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Which I can't wrap my head around. I mean, I
know the mechanism of it, but I cannot wrap my
head around the freeing sensation that that supposedly gives.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It just gives you no It does you no good,
it gives people, It does no good to the people
around you.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
For you to be a hate filled person, bitter, just
bitter for the right, What does your life look like?
It looks awful? Then they take your life too.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I actually looked up is forgiveness required? She is a
Bible believing Christian. Charlie's Bible believe is forgiveness required? And
the basics of it are the way I understood it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
At least.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
God doesn't forgive everyone. What God does is he offers
forgiveness to everyone. He makes it available to everybody. And
if you're a believer, what you say is that you
would forgive somebody who repents of a sin against you.
But in this case, that guy hasn't done that. He
hasn't and as far as we know, he hasn't asked
(06:52):
for forgiveness in any way for shooting and killing Charlie Kirk.
But the command to forgive somebody really is You're only
obliged to forgive somebody if they do repent of the
city you're.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Just living in a prison. If you don't, you really are.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, every morning you wake up and you're in that
prison of hating somebody. That's all you're obsessed with is
just hating them for what they did.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Think how many people live that way I know regularly
for smaller, small things.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, that's just.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have a friend who texted me about President Trump's comments.
She is a President Trump supporter and said he talked
too long.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Who gave him a microphone? And that's a supporter.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
So well, he did drop this bomb in a memorial service,
which didn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 9 (07:41):
But we're gonna have one of the biggest announcement really medically,
I think in the Yeah.
Speaker 11 (07:48):
Christry of the country, we're going to be doing it
with Bobby and Bob all of the a.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Tease, a tease for what's to come.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Also, the fact that he kind of apples and oranges
is a nice way of putting it. Oh well, Erica
forgives Well, I don't wish the best for my opponents.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I want the worst for them. I hate my opponents.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Kind of a thing like your political opponents are akin
to the man who assassinated your husband.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
It was an awful, look for him awful, but transitioning
into what could be good news about this announcement with
autism when we come back.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I don't this is not a major story. It just
caught my eye because it was a little bit weird.
Do you remember the Lilith Fair concerts?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Of course?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Okay, heavy heavy nineties vibe on that.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, like nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Ninety seven was very Sarah McLoughlin before the Dead.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Pets, exactly who I was going to talk about. Sarah
McLaughlin and Jewel backed out of the premiere for the
documentary about the Lilith Fair concerts because of the connection
with Disney and ABC and Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Kimmel and all that.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Oh really, yes, it.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Was supposed to be a celebratory event, celebratory event at
the Ford Theater in LA for the documentary called Lilith
Fair Building a Mystery. So Sarah McLaughlin and Jewel said
they didn't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It reminds me of listening to Alice ninety seven point three.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Sacramento wasn't well, there was Alice.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Alice was before Jack I think, Oh, you're right, and
Alice was very at the late nineties time Lilith Fair heavy.
I'm surprised they wouldn't have that in San Francisco at
like Golden Gate Park or something.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
That is also I thought that what the out.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Doors and the whole does not strike me as the
place where.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'm surprised there hasn't been a renaissance of the Lilith
Fair with all of the female empowerment body positivity.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You know, why isn't that happening?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
What a lost opportunity, because I mean, that thing would
explode now.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I mean, do you think so? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I think there's definitely an audience for it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Maybe and maybe we have an idea right here Lilith
Fair two point.
Speaker 9 (10:27):
Zero Your day.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
On the Gary and Shannon Show, I learned the value
of forgiveness. And I also learned that Gary can dance
on a pole like a single mom whose kid needs braces.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yes, oh boy, yes, that is perfectly put sir.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I think our work here is done. We tackled two big.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Ones yesterday at the Charlie Kirk funeral and service. President
Trump got up there and free balled it. What's the
word he didn't stick to the scripts. An impromptu speech. Well,
one of the things that he talked about was today's
big announcement, which is planned for one o'clock hour time
(11:10):
from the White House.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I think you're going to find.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
It to be amazing. I think we found an answer
to autism. We won't let it happen anymore so that
parents can help their child, their beautiful child.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Why would you use a funeral?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He's for a father who is thirty one years old,
cut down, tragically, surprisingly, assassinated to pitch anything. The administration
is expected today to tie pregnant women's use of thailanol
to autism.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Now, I having seen this yesterday, I didn't have the
ability to contact a couple of people that I know
who have kids with autism to ask them, Hey, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Me garyl Hey, it's me Garet. How's your how's your Sunday?
Oh yeah, it's a beautiful day out here too. I
just put up a fence. Hey, when you were preggers,
did you pop some til and is that why your
kid came out with autism?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Okay, first of all, I don't think I've ever said preggers.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Other than that, everything else, I'm so sorry for profiling
you as someone who says that word.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I like, didn't you make your face do a funny
thing when you did your impression of me?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That was really good.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So the Washington Post says, paracetamol is tail and all.
Paracetamol aceed of benefit is safe for pregnant women to take.
At least guidelines have shown that this is safe for
pregnant women to take. Now, listen what I what guidelines
(12:46):
can change?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Uh? Our food pyramid is an absolute uh garbage can
that they told us for decades, eat nothing but bread, bread.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
When you wake up, bread in the mid.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And then after you have your loaf of bread, a
couple smokes off that cigarette to relax a little bit. Listen,
guidelines can change. We can learn more information about stuff.
The administration is expected to tie pregnant women's use of
tail and all to the risk of autism. That would
be contrary to what medical guidelines say. And again I'll
(13:23):
repeat it, guidelines could change. They're expected to announce an
effort to explore how the cancer and anemia drug lucovorin
could purportedly and potentially treat autism, not alleviate some of
the symptoms.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But be a treatment for it.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Cited four sources with the knowledge of the plan, spoke
on the condition of anonymity because they want the President
and Department of Department of Health and Human Services to
make the big.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Announcement, and never having been a pregnant person, this knowledge
could be wrong, but I it was. Is my understanding
that thailanol is one of the safe things you can
take while you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Again, that's the guideline.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Sure, you want to avoid taking anything that's not totally
natural while you're pregnant, I would assume, But if you
have migrains or what have you, tailan all is supposed
to be the safe one.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
It's always been the safe thing to take, right So.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That's why this is That's why this is such a
huge announcement. Is can they actually tie it? And what
is the increased risk? It's not a guarantee that your
pregnant tailant all equals autism.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And what did thailand All do to Trump? Is my question? Like,
is there a money angle here?
Speaker 10 (14:34):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
The drug maker? You mean, yeah, I don't. I don't
think he has that. Uh well, man, I don't know.
Be careful what I say, because I don't think he's
got that ability to delve into something like that, but
I don't listen again, guidelines can change, but we will
a little bit later. We'll talk about this Luco vor
(14:57):
in what it is, this potential first drug to treat
autism because it has listen, it has had some amazing instances.
I don't know if it turns into it the official
treatment or prescribed treatment, but that is possible.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We'll do that a little bit later.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Welcome to Monday, September twenty second. I have a burning
TikTok news.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
It turns out that Oracle is apparently going to receive
a copy of TikTok's algorithm to operate for users, specifically
in the United States. This decision addresses the concerns that
we have had over China having so much control over TikTok.
The algorithm recommends videos. It's been one of the key
issues when it comes to the negotiations between Washington and Beijing.
(15:49):
The Trump administration's officials have insisted that the plan is
tried to try to prevent potential manipulation of addictive content.
How about we just unplug TikTok period?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
How dare you?
Speaker 11 (16:06):
I know?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
How dare you know?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
But there's got to be some there's got to be
some movement the other direction.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, yes, you are. People are crashing into things right now.
Listening to you say that, Grandpa, Amy King, when's the
last time you opened up TikTok? I'm an old. It's
not for me. It is the lifeblood of the young,
life blood. Amy King is jumping off a building. How
(16:34):
TikTok worthy is that now, Amy?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
No? No, she's not doing it because she's listening to
the show.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Oh, she's doing it for a good cause. Coming up
on Friday, I am.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
We're going over the edge to raise money for the
Union Rescue Mission, and Anil Savader and I are both
doing this. Oh we're running out of time and we
need your help. So we're asking for your donations, whether
it's five bucks, fifty bucks, hundred bucks, whatever, raising money
to actually help people get off the street. And we
know that homelessness is a huge problem. We talk about
(17:04):
it all the time. Everybody throws a lot of money
at it and nothing happens. Well, the folks at Union
Rescue Mission actually do stuff about it and permanently get
people off the streets by taking them in, putting them
through rehab, doing you know, whatever they need to get
them sober, and then starting to transition them. They do
job training, they do other they do job placement, and
(17:27):
they help them rebuild themselves to the point where they
are ready to go back and get back into society
and be productive and get off.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
The streets forever.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I have long believed in Andy Bale's and Union Rescue
Mission and the.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Work they do.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They are you know, you gotta be careful with charities
and who you give to, especially sometimes charities that have
been around a while and they run a foul. Union
Rescue Mission is legit. And I've been there several times,
and you're absolutely right in terms of your part amy.
How many homeless people have you taken in personally to
your home?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
None?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
None?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
How many a many as Neil Neil could fit a
couple in his in his mountain home.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Uh, None that I know of.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
But we're raising money so that people who are prepared
to do that could do that. We would just mess
them up further.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think that's you know what actual point you're actually
save the homeless by not taking them in.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Absolutely, absolutely, So this is what we're doing. It's this
Friday and Saturday, and I think Neil and I are
going to go over the edge about noon on Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Any trepidation, Yes, I hate heights.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
We were just talking about God, I was driving, yeah,
and I hadn't been on that road before. And there's
like a cliff when you go over. But you're on
the road and you have control, and you got to
tell the roadway under. You're worried your car is going
to somehow launch you over that road. Yes, and like
you get that pit in your stomach. Yeah, well I
get that every time I even think, oh, by doing this,
I'm freaking out thinking about this for you. Yeah, So
(18:56):
we're going twenty five stories down, we're repe over the
side of the building. It's the the Hilton Los Angeles
Universal City Hotel and it's that big, beautiful black building
that you drive by on the one O one all
the time.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
We're gonna be going off. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's like you think, oh, well, there it's for a
good cause. There's gonna you know, what could go wrong.
There's so many eyes on this right. But at the
same time, you are the worst motivational speaker.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
You're not helping at all. Shannon. Thanks, I'm sorry, but
it is okay. So I saw this.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You can follow Amy by the way at amy K
King Amy k a y King, And I saw you
teasing this on on Instagram and I was like, oh,
hell no, like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And that's how how my teas started.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I'm looking over the my god, have you ever done
anything like this before?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
We actually did it last year.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Oh it was yeah, it was the first time we
your old hat. Well, I thought that maybe this year
I would be less nervous about it, but I'm telling
you I'm not. And I just think about it and
start going, oh god. I think when I was a kid,
I didn't care about heights. Now I really do. It
(20:12):
wigs me out, but you know what, it's totally worth it.
And the people who are doing the over the edge activation,
they know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And that's what she tells herself.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I have to tell myself or I wouldn't actually step
over the railing.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But it's what the legal release forces anyway.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
So we're doing it Friday, and they're doing it Friday
and Saturday. So if you would like to support me,
or Neil. We have Team KFI and it's super easy.
It's just rm dot org slash ote and then there's
a Team KFI tag And if you can donate a
little bit, great, if you can donate a lot great.
It's all really going to help people, which is why
(20:49):
we're supporting it. And also if you want to do it,
if you're not just chicken like me and Shannon and
you want to do it a thousand dollar donation, you
can go over the edge too. And I will tell
you it is terrifying, but it is. It is exhilarating
and by the time you come down you're like whooo,
(21:10):
Like you know, I'm the king of the world that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I wouldn't do it for one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
How much would you pay you? Is there a price? Now?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I am so such a whimp when it comes to Yeah.
I was just texting Heather Brooker to make sure she's
ready to go for wake up call on Monday.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You're always looking out for me, Shannon. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
We've got somebody's mom coming in today who had flown
out hoping to go to news and Bruce planning on
going and it got canceled, so we said.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Bring her in.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
So she's going to come in.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I hope she likes pizza. Maybe she doesn't like pizza.
Maybe we get something else.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
That's awesome, Elmer. This is how Shannon gets us into trouble.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is how Shannon gets us. She takes things too far. Elmer.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Oh, you guys want to go to that bar over
there that has a pole on it and like four
different weird dance rooms.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
No, not really, we should totally do that. Not that
that was eight years ago.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
And did somebody have a good time on that pole?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Great?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Somebody did.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
What city was there?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I am so mad. I never took pictures of you
on that pole. That was Philadelphia. That was one of
my favorite moments in your life.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh in my life? Thank you? Vill Did you score
it like one?
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Performance wise?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Gary?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
He can dance like it is very true?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It weird And when he found that pole, it was
like a fish finding water.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
So five Maybe Elmer I think I'm on a different scale.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
He could have gotten some bites there.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I could have gotten keeping my fishing analogy going, There
was a person in an overalls.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You still remember the yeah I knew.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Passengers facing another day of flight delays across Europe, big
airports are trying to grapple with the aftermath of a
cyber attack on a company that does check in and
boarding software. One company. It's called Colin's Aerospace. The big
concern is was this a test run for something bigger?
(02:01):
It caused a few days worth of problems that extended
over here to the United States as well. Yesterday was
the memorial for Charlie.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Kirk filled up State Farm Stadium there in Glendale. Ninety
thousand people attended the service, another ten thousand in an
overflow venue. This Earlier estimates by law enforcement placed the
attendance in the surrounding areas about two hundred thousand.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
A bunch of dignitaries, a bunch of his friends, politicians.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They all spoke last night. Charlie Kirk a movement. JD.
Vans here.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
He transformed the face of conservatism.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
In our own time.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
He did one hundred percent of what he could every day.
Charlie died with incomplete work, but not with unfinished business.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
Charlie Kirk started with only an idea to change minds
on college campuses, and instead he ended up with a
far greater achievement, changing history.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I mentioned Erica Kirk and her willingness to her very
public declaration of forgiveness. I don't know about willingness. I
don't know if this was a struggle for her or not.
But we've said this before. In times of incredible pain
imposed by someone else, one of the most incredible things
(03:30):
that happens is when that person who has been aggrieved
finds it in their heart to forgive somebody.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
To all the men watching around the world, accept.
Speaker 10 (03:43):
Charlie's challenge.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
And embrace true manhood.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
She very clearly and very emphatically, from the podium in
front of ninety thousand people, forgave the guy.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
Father, forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 10 (04:05):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We've talked about faith and the way the very important
role it plays in in the face of tragedy, no
matter what it is, you know, and there's no competition
on which tragedy is the worst. But you know when
you see a parent lose their child, when you see
(04:40):
these school shootings or church shootings or what happened with
Charlie Kirk, how people that are connected to God seem
to fare better.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
They just seem to handle it better, they seem to
heal better.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
They have a built in community, for one thing.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
They have a built in community.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And the forgiveness, as crazy as it sounded, and we
sat here what ten years ago, I don't know. I
don't remember the first time we heard this, but we've
talked about it, like you said, numerous times, and I thought,
I'll never get there. I could never get there. I
could never forgive somebody who did this. But the more
you think about it, and the more you talk to
(05:23):
people who are people of faith, the forgiveness is for you.
It frees you from being filled with hate and leading
your life like that like that is a heavy ass
burden if you're just going to keep that hatred burning
in your heart forever. You know, to forgive the person
who killed her husband is to unleash that from herself.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Which I can't wrap my head around. I mean, I
know the mechanism of it, but I cannot wrap my
head around the freeing sensation that that supposedly gives.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It just gives you no It does you no good,
it gives people, It does no good to the people
around you.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
For you to be a hate filled person, bitter, just
bitter for the right, What does your life look like?
It looks awful? Then they take your life too.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I actually looked up is forgiveness required? She is a
Bible believing Christian. Charlie's Bible believe is forgiveness required? And
the basics of it are the way I understood it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
At least.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
God doesn't forgive everyone. What God does is he offers
forgiveness to everyone. He makes it available to everybody. And
if you're a believer, what you say is that you
would forgive somebody who repents of a sin against you.
But in this case, that guy hasn't done that. He
hasn't and as far as we know, he hasn't asked
(06:52):
for forgiveness in any way for shooting and killing Charlie Kirk.
But the command to forgive somebody really is You're only
obliged to forgive somebody if they do repent of the
city you're.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Just living in a prison. If you don't, you really are.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, every morning you wake up and you're in that
prison of hating somebody. That's all you're obsessed with is
just hating them for what they did.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Think how many people live that way I know regularly
for smaller, small things.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, that's just.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have a friend who texted me about President Trump's comments.
She is a President Trump supporter and said he talked
too long.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Who gave him a microphone? And that's a supporter.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
So well, he did drop this bomb in a memorial service,
which didn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 9 (07:41):
But we're gonna have one of the biggest announcement really medically,
I think in the Yeah.
Speaker 11 (07:48):
Christry of the country, we're going to be doing it
with Bobby and Bob all of the a.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Tease, a tease for what's to come.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Also, the fact that he kind of apples and oranges
is a nice way of putting it. Oh well, Erica
forgives Well, I don't wish the best for my opponents.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I want the worst for them. I hate my opponents.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Kind of a thing like your political opponents are akin
to the man who assassinated your husband.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
It was an awful, look for him awful, but transitioning
into what could be good news about this announcement with
autism when we come back.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I don't this is not a major story. It just
caught my eye because it was a little bit weird.
Do you remember the Lilith Fair concerts?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Of course?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Okay, heavy heavy nineties vibe on that.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, like nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Ninety seven was very Sarah McLoughlin before the Dead.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Pets, exactly who I was going to talk about. Sarah
McLaughlin and Jewel backed out of the premiere for the
documentary about the Lilith Fair concerts because of the connection
with Disney and ABC and Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Kimmel and all that.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Oh really, yes, it.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Was supposed to be a celebratory event, celebratory event at
the Ford Theater in LA for the documentary called Lilith
Fair Building a Mystery. So Sarah McLaughlin and Jewel said
they didn't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It reminds me of listening to Alice ninety seven point three.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Sacramento wasn't well, there was Alice.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Alice was before Jack I think, Oh, you're right, and
Alice was very at the late nineties time Lilith Fair heavy.
I'm surprised they wouldn't have that in San Francisco at
like Golden Gate Park or something.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
That is also I thought that what the out.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Doors and the whole does not strike me as the
place where.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'm surprised there hasn't been a renaissance of the Lilith
Fair with all of the female empowerment body positivity.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You know, why isn't that happening?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
What a lost opportunity, because I mean, that thing would
explode now.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I mean, do you think so? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I think there's definitely an audience for it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Maybe and maybe we have an idea right here Lilith
Fair two point.
Speaker 9 (10:27):
Zero Your day.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
On the Gary and Shannon Show, I learned the value
of forgiveness. And I also learned that Gary can dance
on a pole like a single mom whose kid needs braces.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yes, oh boy, yes, that is perfectly put sir.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I think our work here is done. We tackled two big.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Ones yesterday at the Charlie Kirk funeral and service. President
Trump got up there and free balled it. What's the
word he didn't stick to the scripts. An impromptu speech. Well,
one of the things that he talked about was today's
big announcement, which is planned for one o'clock hour time
(11:10):
from the White House.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I think you're going to find.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
It to be amazing. I think we found an answer
to autism. We won't let it happen anymore so that
parents can help their child, their beautiful child.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Why would you use a funeral?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He's for a father who is thirty one years old,
cut down, tragically, surprisingly, assassinated to pitch anything. The administration
is expected today to tie pregnant women's use of thailanol
to autism.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Now, I having seen this yesterday, I didn't have the
ability to contact a couple of people that I know
who have kids with autism to ask them, Hey, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Me garyl Hey, it's me Garet. How's your how's your Sunday?
Oh yeah, it's a beautiful day out here too. I
just put up a fence. Hey, when you were preggers,
did you pop some til and is that why your
kid came out with autism?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Okay, first of all, I don't think I've ever said preggers.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Other than that, everything else, I'm so sorry for profiling
you as someone who says that word.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I like, didn't you make your face do a funny
thing when you did your impression of me?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That was really good.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So the Washington Post says, paracetamol is tail and all.
Paracetamol aceed of benefit is safe for pregnant women to take.
At least guidelines have shown that this is safe for
pregnant women to take. Now, listen what I what guidelines
(12:46):
can change?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Uh? Our food pyramid is an absolute uh garbage can
that they told us for decades, eat nothing but bread, bread.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
When you wake up, bread in the mid.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And then after you have your loaf of bread, a
couple smokes off that cigarette to relax a little bit. Listen,
guidelines can change. We can learn more information about stuff.
The administration is expected to tie pregnant women's use of
tail and all to the risk of autism. That would
be contrary to what medical guidelines say. And again I'll
(13:23):
repeat it, guidelines could change. They're expected to announce an
effort to explore how the cancer and anemia drug lucovorin
could purportedly and potentially treat autism, not alleviate some of
the symptoms.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But be a treatment for it.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Cited four sources with the knowledge of the plan, spoke
on the condition of anonymity because they want the President
and Department of Department of Health and Human Services to
make the big.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Announcement, and never having been a pregnant person, this knowledge
could be wrong, but I it was. Is my understanding
that thailanol is one of the safe things you can
take while you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Again, that's the guideline.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Sure, you want to avoid taking anything that's not totally
natural while you're pregnant, I would assume, But if you
have migrains or what have you, tailan all is supposed
to be the safe one.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
It's always been the safe thing to take, right So.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That's why this is That's why this is such a
huge announcement. Is can they actually tie it? And what
is the increased risk? It's not a guarantee that your
pregnant tailant all equals autism.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And what did thailand All do to Trump? Is my question? Like,
is there a money angle here?
Speaker 10 (14:34):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
The drug maker? You mean, yeah, I don't. I don't
think he has that. Uh well, man, I don't know.
Be careful what I say, because I don't think he's
got that ability to delve into something like that, but
I don't listen again, guidelines can change, but we will
a little bit later. We'll talk about this Luco vor
(14:57):
in what it is, this potential first drug to treat
autism because it has listen, it has had some amazing instances.
I don't know if it turns into it the official
treatment or prescribed treatment, but that is possible.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We'll do that a little bit later.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Welcome to Monday, September twenty second. I have a burning
TikTok news.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
It turns out that Oracle is apparently going to receive
a copy of TikTok's algorithm to operate for users, specifically
in the United States. This decision addresses the concerns that
we have had over China having so much control over TikTok.
The algorithm recommends videos. It's been one of the key
issues when it comes to the negotiations between Washington and Beijing.
(15:49):
The Trump administration's officials have insisted that the plan is
tried to try to prevent potential manipulation of addictive content.
How about we just unplug TikTok period?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
How dare you?
Speaker 11 (16:06):
I know?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
How dare you know?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
But there's got to be some there's got to be
some movement the other direction.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, yes, you are. People are crashing into things right now.
Listening to you say that, Grandpa, Amy King, when's the
last time you opened up TikTok? I'm an old. It's
not for me. It is the lifeblood of the young,
life blood. Amy King is jumping off a building. How
(16:34):
TikTok worthy is that now, Amy?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
No? No, she's not doing it because she's listening to
the show.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Oh, she's doing it for a good cause. Coming up
on Friday, I am.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
We're going over the edge to raise money for the
Union Rescue Mission, and Anil Savader and I are both
doing this. Oh we're running out of time and we
need your help. So we're asking for your donations, whether
it's five bucks, fifty bucks, hundred bucks, whatever, raising money
to actually help people get off the street. And we
know that homelessness is a huge problem. We talk about
(17:04):
it all the time. Everybody throws a lot of money
at it and nothing happens. Well, the folks at Union
Rescue Mission actually do stuff about it and permanently get
people off the streets by taking them in, putting them
through rehab, doing you know, whatever they need to get
them sober, and then starting to transition them. They do
job training, they do other they do job placement, and
(17:27):
they help them rebuild themselves to the point where they
are ready to go back and get back into society
and be productive and get off.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
The streets forever.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I have long believed in Andy Bale's and Union Rescue
Mission and the.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Work they do.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They are you know, you gotta be careful with charities
and who you give to, especially sometimes charities that have
been around a while and they run a foul. Union
Rescue Mission is legit. And I've been there several times,
and you're absolutely right in terms of your part amy.
How many homeless people have you taken in personally to
your home?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
None?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
None?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
How many a many as Neil Neil could fit a
couple in his in his mountain home.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Uh, None that I know of.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
But we're raising money so that people who are prepared
to do that could do that. We would just mess
them up further.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think that's you know what actual point you're actually
save the homeless by not taking them in.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Absolutely, absolutely, So this is what we're doing. It's this
Friday and Saturday, and I think Neil and I are
going to go over the edge about noon on Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Any trepidation, Yes, I hate heights.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
We were just talking about God, I was driving, yeah,
and I hadn't been on that road before. And there's
like a cliff when you go over. But you're on
the road and you have control, and you got to
tell the roadway under. You're worried your car is going
to somehow launch you over that road. Yes, and like
you get that pit in your stomach. Yeah, well I
get that every time I even think, oh, by doing this,
I'm freaking out thinking about this for you. Yeah, So
(18:56):
we're going twenty five stories down, we're repe over the
side of the building. It's the the Hilton Los Angeles
Universal City Hotel and it's that big, beautiful black building
that you drive by on the one O one all
the time.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
We're gonna be going off. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's like you think, oh, well, there it's for a
good cause. There's gonna you know, what could go wrong.
There's so many eyes on this right. But at the
same time, you are the worst motivational speaker.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
You're not helping at all. Shannon. Thanks, I'm sorry, but
it is okay. So I saw this.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You can follow Amy by the way at amy K
King Amy k a y King, And I saw you
teasing this on on Instagram and I was like, oh,
hell no, like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And that's how how my teas started.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I'm looking over the my god, have you ever done
anything like this before?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
We actually did it last year.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Oh it was yeah, it was the first time we
your old hat. Well, I thought that maybe this year
I would be less nervous about it, but I'm telling
you I'm not. And I just think about it and
start going, oh god. I think when I was a kid,
I didn't care about heights. Now I really do. It
(20:12):
wigs me out, but you know what, it's totally worth it.
And the people who are doing the over the edge activation,
they know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And that's what she tells herself.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I have to tell myself or I wouldn't actually step
over the railing.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But it's what the legal release forces anyway.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
So we're doing it Friday, and they're doing it Friday
and Saturday. So if you would like to support me,
or Neil. We have Team KFI and it's super easy.
It's just rm dot org slash ote and then there's
a Team KFI tag And if you can donate a
little bit, great, if you can donate a lot great.
It's all really going to help people, which is why
(20:49):
we're supporting it. And also if you want to do it,
if you're not just chicken like me and Shannon and
you want to do it a thousand dollar donation, you
can go over the edge too. And I will tell
you it is terrifying, but it is. It is exhilarating
and by the time you come down you're like whooo,
(21:10):
Like you know, I'm the king of the world that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I wouldn't do it for one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
How much would you pay you? Is there a price? Now?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I am so such a whimp when it comes to Yeah.
I was just texting Heather Brooker to make sure she's
ready to go for wake up call on Monday.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
You're always looking out for me, Shannon. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
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