Cheese Nightmares / Heart Variability

#SWAMPWATCH / Wellness: Cheese Nightmares / Heart Variability / T.I.T.S.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Thursday, we're gonna be doing our show live from Bjay's
Restaurant and brew House on Beach Boulevard. They are in
Huntington Beach, very easy to get to off of the
nightmare that is the four h five Freeway, and you'll
love to be there. We are going to be given
away bja's gift cards, Dodgers tickets, Chargers tickets, Gary and
Shannon Show swag.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's gonna be a great time. Nothing says summer like
a news and bruse on Beach Boulevard in Huntington Beach.
You've got to be there, just you've got to. There's
no excuse for why you can't be there. I don't
want to hear about work. I don't want to hear
about children. Oh here about any of it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
BJ's Restaurant and brew House, home to the award winning
handcrafted beers, the signature Deep Dish pizzas, and the world
famous Pusuki dessert. We're also talking about those awful freeways
that you're going to take to get down there. I
think the four oh five is the worst freeway in
Long Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
We live in behind and my wife only had a
twelve eight miles and it took her two and a
half hours to get down the four oh five for
maynin I mean it was literally like six seven exits.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Down the way, and that thing is here were ended
all the way through.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm surprised the murder rate isn't higher.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I remember on the four five when I lived in
Marina del Rey, and at the time I was a
reporter and oftentimes I never came into the station here
in Burbank, which is why I was able to live
over there. And uh I would, though from time to time,
have to come to Burbank for work. And I remember

(01:45):
one time leaving John and Ken at six point thirty driving.
This is when I just started anchoring for them, so
I hadn't known about the hell that is the four
h five in the evening, left here at six point
thirty and did not get home till about nine and
from Burbank to Marina del Rey, and I remember pulling

(02:08):
into the car port with tears in my eyes, like
that was awful.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
That was so awful. When I came here to interview
for the job. Back in two thousand and four. I
had known Laura Ingle. We had worked together in Sacramento,
and she was here at the time as a reporter,
and she had popped in to say hi, and was
talking with Chris Little, the news director, about going to
this is where it's sixth then Nard More, that's where

(02:36):
the old station was, and she was going to drive
out two thousand Oaks or somewhere in that direction. And
he's looking at his watch. She's like, you better get going.
She's like, it's la it only takes twenty minutes to
get anywhere. That was the last time I ever heard that.
That's because that's a Sacramento rule. Everything in Sacramento is
twenty minutes. Did you ever hear that?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, and that's the that is the truth Sacramento. Everything's
twenty minutes. I mean, because even if it's just I
think it's five minutes, it's twenty minutes.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
So that's the side. So we all came from Sacramento,
so it's like, oh, it's twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, no, no, no, it's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician,
which means I'm a cheat and a liar. And when
I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Yeah, we got.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
The other side never quits.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
So what I'm not going anywhere?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
So now you train the swap, I can imagine what
can be and be unburdened by.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
What has been.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know, Americans have always been going at president, but
they're not stupid.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
A political flunder is a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Have the people voted for you? In swamp Watch?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
They're all conn of Why are we doing news reports
on moving day at colleges? Is that newsworthy? Is that
a thing I've seen that we've seen that all week?
Back to school day? And then the cheerleaders are out
there and they're pom poms and it's a whole thing.
It's like, this is just this is the way life works.
You go back to school, Yeah, go to college. It's

(04:04):
moving day.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Get some new five ozho ones.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you remember a news cruise outside Shasta Hall when
you moved in? Now me neither swamp.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
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Senator Marco Rubio like the way things went yesterday when
President Trump met with President Zelenski and other European leaders yesterday.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Unprecedented really when you think about all these European leaders
came here and they all said the same thing, which
is this. You know, after three years a sort of
deadlock and no talks and no change in circumstances, this
is the first time where there seems to be some movement.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
It's going to take a little bit more work and
a little bit more time, but we are making progress.
It's not me saying it. That is virtually every leader
there today said that in front of the cameras, and
they're saying it for a reason because it's true and
they're witnessing it and they've been a part of it.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, we know that President Trump was on the phone
with Russian President Putin after that meeting yesterday for about
thirty or forty minutes, and he has said that they
are trying to set up a trylat the trilateral meetings
between Zelenski, Putin, and Trump in the room as well,
but we don't know exactly when or where that would
take place. You mentioned the Swiss have said that they

(05:22):
wouldn't arrest Vladimir Putin if they decide to do it.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
There.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
German Chancellor Frederick Mertz said that Putin and Zelenski would
meet within the next two weeks, and Zelensky said, we
are ready for any kind of format, but at the
level of leaders, meaning he doesn't want, you know, Foreign
Minister Sergei Lavrov to meet with Zelenski's foreign affairs correspondent.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
The White House says. The plans are underway now. This
is as of seventeen minutes ago. The plans are underway.
Many options, as you're referring to, are being discussed. Both
leaders have expressed a willingness to sit down with each other.
The plans shifted from a trilat to a bilat. It

(06:09):
was an idea they say that evolved in the course
of the President's conversations. That Trump is agreeable to the bilat.
This is going to be something that I don't see.
It's certainly not going to be as televised as the
meeting between Trump and Putin.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's not going to be that kind of a shell.
It's not going to be a show.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah. The Trump administration is also talking about taking a
ten percent stake in chip maker Intel, part of the
effort to revive the company in bolster or semiconductor manufacturing.
The discussion has included converting almost eleven billion dollars in
recent federal grants into equity into Intel, which is worth

(06:52):
right now at about one hundred billion, so it's about
ten percent of the company. Would be among the largest
government interventions in a US company since the two thousand
and eight financial crisis and hour by hours, I mean
the government's investment in the auto industry. The government put
in billions, tens of billions of dollars into those companies

(07:14):
to help them reorganize, I reorganize, and they said it's
believed to have saved more than a million auto industry jobs.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
We bailed them out.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
And have you seen the videos yet of Pete hag
Seth and RFK junior in an exercise off.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ooh, that is something I would not click on.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Gary. People are making fun of them. I'm making fun
of OURFK Junior because he's wearing jeans all the time,
which is weird. But there's nothing wrong with encouraging people
to move a little bit.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
And that's what it is that they're doing.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
They're promoting fit.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Over fat.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
What does that mean? You can be fat and fit?
Isn't that the Let's see here, the two squared off
to notch a fifty.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Go away ad.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
The two squared off to notch fifty pull ups and
one hundred push ups and under five minutes.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
That's a good that's a good test.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Kennedy saying, we had our big Pete and Bobby challenge today.
He was wearing his typical gym attire of jeans and
a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't judge. See I know him at I know
he's a natural fibers guy. I don't know if that's
a push for him to wear all cotton all the time.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
To me?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
That means like this is nothing to me. I can
wear my jeans, okay.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you can do one hundred push ups and fifty
pull ups in five minutes whatever you're comfortable in, I guess.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
But yeah, uh, completely unacceptable. Pete haig Seth posted on
x and responds to a headline declaring two thirds of
the military overweight. He went on to say, this is
what happens when standards are ignored. This is where this
is what we are changing. Fitness and weight standards are here.
We will be fit, not fat. So they're talking specifically

(09:05):
about the military. Pete Seth has got some definition, it's
got some arms. And you know what, Kennedy looks pretty
cool in those jeans. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
When we come back, we're going to talk about cheese nightmares.
But first, more bad freeways.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
There for me is.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
The stretch of the two fifteen Slash sixty from Marino
Valley into the ninety one in Riverside. It is a
complete stop all of the time. You can't even get
on it most of the time. It's all full of trucks.
There's accidents all of the time. It is a complete nightmare.
I say a prayer when I get on it still
didn't help me.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Got rear ended.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
But whoever designed it, I don't know. They were completely incompetent.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Thank you much.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Bye. Yeah. A lot of the freeway system was put together.
They're in the fifties and sixties, and it was genius
at the time, but we've expanded. We have expanded in
a number of ways as a people.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
I go up to Lake Castaic every Thursday morning. I
leave Long Beach around six in the morning to be
able to get there by eight thirty. But my heart
goes out to people from the Santa Clarita Castaic area
that are coming into town. And Gary, I think of
you every time I see that traffic.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
He's okay, I'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
He'll be fine, I'll be fine. He comes from the
world of ice hockey, patience and patience.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Cheese nightmares when we come back.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I haven't gotten into cheese really really well in a
long time. Right now, I haven't gotten into like it.
I haven't come home and put together like three different
types of cheeses and really gotten into a platter.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's a charcouterie board when it's just cheese, a cheese.
Something wrong with that.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I can't believe this story. We're going to talk about
it tomorrow. Big article in The Atlantic about the number
of single dads. And these are not dads that have
gotten divorced. These are dads that wanted to be dads,
and you hear it with moms all the time, where
life happened they didn't meet the person that they expected

(11:33):
to meet and have kids with, so they're doing it
on their own. Well, now dads are doing that. Dudes
are doing this a growing number of them. I had
not heard about this. We're going to tackle it tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's going to be interesting because I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Know, I haven't heard this in my real life.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Any single dude who's like, you know what I want
as a couple of ducks.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I want a couple of kids, couple at ducks.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's cute the way you say that. Do you call
your kids ducks?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (12:02):
Well, oh no, so cheese yet? Well great, we all
love cheese.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I used to. I went through a strong phase and
I would like to say late twenties early thirties of
having a cheese plate pretty much every night after dinner.
I went through a big cheese phase of like, you
know what, I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna watch some
Law and Order and I'm gonna make me some cheese

(12:33):
and crackers, some triscuits and some cheddar, maybe some truffle cheese,
maybe some some goat, some breeze, some triple cream. There's
a lot of different choices of I got into it
pretty pretty severe cheeses. Some are soft, some are hard.
You don't discriminate blue cheese. Different blue cheeses.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
You dangerous. You're getting dangerous.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Research from Canadian scientists suggests that certain foods, most importantly
dairy products, are associated with happy nightmares. Maybe happy in
the moment, but you go to bed later, well start
having nightmares.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Let me ask you this. I think cheese is kind
of taking the brunt of this. Isn't that true for
all foods. If you're going to eat something right before
you go to bed, you're more likely to have nightmares
because it does something weird your blood sugar.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, your body is still digesting. Your body's still working
when it should be resting if you eat late enough.
But they said the gastrointestinal distress that's brought on after
ingesting foods like cheese right before bedtime could induce crap
in your pants nightmares in the bed, which would be
a nightmare. That would be a nightmare. In particular, they
said the people who were now obviously lactose intolerant experience

(13:57):
more disrupted sleep.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Well, What do you do any cheese before bed? If
you're lactose intolerant or at any time.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Participants with food sensitivities are unable to resist dairy. There
are consequences, needless to say, how listen, I know a
couple of people in family, a couple of people close
friends who are lactose intolerant.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
They love.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Cheese, love it to the point where they're crushing lactaid
pills like their skittles so they can eat a couple
slices of pizza or whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
However they do that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
But this group out of Canada studied examine the association
between food and dreaming. And they surveyed one thousand college
students online in Alberta, and they asked about the frequency
of nightmares, food sensitivities and symptoms, and any associations that
they noticed between the types of dreams and the various
foods that they ate. Forty percent said they thought eating

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certain foods improved or worsened their sleep, had an actual
impact on their sleep, and about five percent five six
percent believe that what they ate affected the tone of
their dreams, many of them pointing to dairy or dessert
or sweets. As the culprits of the vivid, disturbing dreams.

(15:17):
Herbal teas and fruits and vegetables were linked to better sleep.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's also very boring.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
You're going to crush a couple celery stalks and a
cup of herbal tea before you hit the hay?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, who wants? I mean theoretically, ideally, I should say
ideally you shouldn't be eating anything before bed, because, like
you said, your body should be resting, not digesting. Tea
is something easy for your body to just chill with.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
But I got a hard time. What do you like
post dinner?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I like to eat ice cream in bed? I really do.
Did I do it in bed all the time?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
You're an animal?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I know, I'm awful.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I made a joke my son yesterday for some reason,
was talking about Ritz crackers. Somebody had gotten crackers and
he's like, yeah, and there was a ritz Crackers wrapper
on the bed.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah. I eat crackers in bed. I eat crackers in
bed all the time. Crackers and ice cream probably the
two biggest culprits.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
You have nothing else to do?

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Well?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I mean you have no other room or space
or anything like that in your house.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Wow to eat ritz crackers.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Are you reading a book? Are you watching TV?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Both?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
You're reading and watching TV while you're reading.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Sometimes is watching TV?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I like crackers and ice cream.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I do too.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think you're jealous. I think you are jealous of
me because I eat crackers and ice cream in bed.
I'm jealous of your of my monster tendencies. And to
use your words, one of the researchers says that our
bodies are built to sleep at night and be active
during the day.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
We eat cheese before bed.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
We're asking our bodies to digestive food at a time
that it should be rested.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yes, I see all the doors you didn't walk through,
like I see all every door that you didn't walk through.
I identify and I respect you for that, and I
salute you.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Because there's spotlights on every single day.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I would have walked through all of them and you
did not. And I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
If your body is busy breaking down food, and by
the way, it takes your body energy to do that.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
We don't think about it, but you ever experience a.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Food coma, You know when you eat all kinds of
crap for like forty five minutes or more, and then
your body just starts and you just get that look
on your face where you're like.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh, no, I've never done that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's your body is running a marathon in your in
your skin without you moving.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You're so mad right now? Why I don't know you're yelling.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I just worry about you. I know, I worry.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
I know.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Picture you with crackers and cookies, doctor nass stream and
figure out why I'm not.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh my god, okay, and your your your your husband
just dutifully he does, like me, studio, You done with
that sleeve of rich crackers, yet I have another one
in the cupboard.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You'd like to go get?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, I do. I'll kill a sleeve. You're right, that
is my serving one sleeve. It's like if you encounter
a will debest in the forest and it's eating a carcass,
you don't disturb it, you don't look at it eat me,
You walk the other way. That's what I'm like. If
I have my ice cream on my crackers, it's like
he just kind of throws them at me and then

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and then leaves.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Is that when that second eyelid comes up over your
eyes to protect it from like what a shark eats?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
It has extra eyelids?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Do I do that? Did I do that?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm asking you? Are you so unaware of what happens
when you eat? Like you black out when you start
eating crackers?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
And extremely judged, extremely you have.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
No idea how judge your being right now? Judge you're being?
You have no idea heart rate variability? And why why
this is so important? Heart rate variability? And chances are
you have a little device that'll tell you what your
variability is and why it's important.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Why so well?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Why is it show so well? Suddenly? Are you wearing
jeans at the gym?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I am wearing jeans. I'm not wearing them to the gym.
Not today.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Some warm temperatures are coming in tomorrow. Is a red
flag warning going to go into effect tomorrow morning, probably
through late Saturday night for portions of the mountains and
foothills of La and Ventura Counties. And then the fire
weather watch also goes into effect Thursday morning for the
foothills of Santa Barbara, San those Obispo counties. We're going
to see triple digits, but it is also mid August,

(20:16):
so that's not entirely unexpected. But back east, millions of
people being urged to prepare because Hurricane Aaron is moving
up the East coast. Aarin is not expected to make
landfall in the US, but places from South Carolina all
the way up through New York and Massachusetts are facing
significant coastal threats.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
They said.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Hatteras Island and North Carolina has been evacuated. The outer
Banks have been declared a state of emergency, and they
expect to see flood warnings because rain could be seven
inches of rain or expected in some of those places.
So it's going to be a busy week as they
deal with Aaron up and down the East coast.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Did you know that there is a number that might
let you know how stress you are, whether you have
a cold coming on, and how to get into the
zone if you're about to present at a big meeting.
You can find that number on most smart watches or
other wearables, but they say if you glance at yours,

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it's likely to change before your eyes. It's your heart
rate variability HRV. What it is is a measure of
your nervous system's resilience, and they say it's one of
the most potentially beneficial health metrics available to us, but
most people don't understand it. We don't know what it

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means or how to use our hr V reading.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So they say it's the measure of that auton autonomic
nervous system resilience, and it can be very useful. Heart
rate variability isn't so much about your heart it's a
proxy of stress, according to one of the researchers, And
technically it's a change in the interval between heart beats

(22:07):
millisecond by millisecond. And if your heart rate right now
is it about ninety beats per minute. Those ninety beats
aren't exactly metronomically, exactly equidistant.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
They're syncopated. Oh that's a good word.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
They come faster and slower every millicentant, depending on everything.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
So they say that HRV being the reflection of the
autonomic nervous system, which controls involuntary processes breathing, heart rate
made up of the very twitchy sympathetic nervous system, which
can cause your high alert fight or flight hair on
the back of your neck. The parasympathy and the parasympathetic
nervous system or the one that keeps us pretty chill.

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And both of these systems work with the brain increase
or lower the heart rate and breathing to coordinate with
the biochemicals to get your body ready for whatever's about
to happen.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Are you in a low stress state? Are you in
a high stress state?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
And they said that these dueling systems interact and balance
to keep our bodies ready to react, but not overreact.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
We just got to keep it regular. Okay, So what's good?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
In a small study of old people men and women
who live to be at least one hundred, the higher
their HRV, the longer they continued to live. Those with
the lowest hrvs were far more likely to die in
the coming year than the others. So the studies authors
here say that HRV seems to play a role in

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exceptional longevity. In general, you have a higher r HRV,
that means you have a healthier stress response. Your body
knows how to respond to stress, whether it's stress you
think of like I don't know the ninety one, or
if it's a stress that your body is under in
a workout or for health reasons. There's a number of
different stressors that our body reacts to, right, But obviously

(24:02):
the better you deal with all of those things, the
healthier you're going to be in the long term. That's
common sense.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It also sounds like your body can kind of learn
how to do this. If you're a teenager, you might
see an HRV. The heart rate variability range as high
as two hundred and thirty for some teenagers, but if
you're in your sixties or so, it can be as
low as five milliseconds. HRV declines with age, but some

(24:27):
of the oldest people in the study had hrvs above eighty.
Some teenagers did have them much lower, but for average
people in their thirties, it's about forty five milliseconds. The
range for that age is anywhere from ten to one
hundred and sixties, so it does change. Many people believe
an HRV in your twenties or lower might actually be
caused for concern.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
So I've been looking at it.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I have one of the aura rings that has been
showing me and I've kind of bounced up and down
over the course of let's say, I don't know since February,
but if you do it by month, it averages I'm
right around sixty maybe seventy milliseconds in my heart rate variability.
If you go over the course of an entire month,

(25:11):
that's what it's averaged out to be, and for the
entire year, it puts me at seventy three. So that's
somewhere right in the middle of what's supposed to be acceptable.
But I also have at least in my metric here,
so it's just acceptable, highly acceptable. It also says that

(25:40):
that means that my readiness score, at least on their thing,
is very high. I mentioned that the you know, the
average heart rate variability has actually decreased since I've been awake,
which is weird.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I would think that you, the way you're built, the
way you're composed, would be a very you would handle
stressers very well, physically, mentally, all the things. But you're
an anomaly.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Most people are an anemone.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'm an anemone. That's not nice. I'm not a sea creature. Okay, uh,
don't just start saying words that sound similar and try
to make them make sense. Okay, okay, but.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Thank you for saying that I'm perfectly acceptable.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I didn't say that, so I didn't say.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
You have said that in the past.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I never said perfectly when I've called you acceptable mostly acceptable.
It's just acceptable, which is perfectly acceptable.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
We'll do tearing the skies when we come back.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
The second Oval Office meeting in six months between Trump
and Zelenski went off pretty well yesterday. Of course, they
had a lot of eyes on them, including several European
leaders who joined this discussion. It looks as if there
are plans coming together for Zelenski to sit down with
Russian President Putin. It's likely that Donald Trump would be involved.

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I don't know if he'd be in the room, but
there is a discussion about them getting together and trying
to come up some sort of a Whether it's an
entire peace deal or just a cease fire.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
We're not sure.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
A Democratic Texas state lawmaker has chosen to spend the
night in the House chamber there in Austin to avoid
being shadowed by law enforcement. Republicans in the Texas House
are requiring Democrats to sign some agreements for constant surveillance
by state officers, but the representative Nicole Collier refused. She

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stayed on the house floor, part of a larger battle,
of course, over the redistricting slash jerry mandering of US
house maps. Democrats did return to Texas. The fight over
all of this continues to intensify.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
All right, we've got an emergency landing and a landing
that never was because it was a crash. You know
what that sounds like?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Bow bow bow?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Mike is zero nier r Rager, get off my plane,
Proger rogers?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
What's our victor?

Speaker 7 (28:21):
Victor?

Speaker 5 (28:22):
En?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Is enough?

Speaker 6 (28:24):
I have had with these munkey pipe and snakes on
this money. It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the skies
on kfi.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Elmer.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Do not hide, Do not hide when these stories come up.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Your experience as a pilot is important, right, Oh, as
an Air Force veteran, you have a valid voice that
needs to be heard.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yes, what'd you do in the Air Force? Ow's aircraft electrician?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah? I totally see that.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
That counts. Which which airframe did you work on?

Speaker 6 (29:01):
There?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Bro F fifteen?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay, all right? Can I ask why you chose not
to be an electrician in the real world.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Cause when you go the civilian are out, you have
to like.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
It's very commercial it's very it's turning wrenches.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
And that was fun. But it wasn't like it's very
painstaking labor.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
And my body can make a lot of money. They do.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
They do it like one hundred figures easy, but I
don't have figures.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's a lot.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It's like one hundred kN ops.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, it's a good thing. You're working here, right, Yeah,
I made that. You have made the absolute right choice.
This was not an F fifteen. This was a Boeing
seven to fifty seven carrying two hundred and seventy three
passengers eight crew were total of two eighty one souls
from Corfu, Greece to Doo's Little Dwarf, Germany. Experience a
turbine airflow disruption. That does not sound good, especially when

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it's an altitude of about thirty six thousand feet. Passengers
board this flight began to notice flames literally spitting from
the right wing of the plane just after eight o'clock
at night.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
That's that's a sign of a problem.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Flight made an emergency landing at Brindisi Airport in southern Italy.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That sounds beautiful, doesn't it? To be stuck in Maybe
having a Branzino at Brindisi, maybe not.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
At the airport. What's theer's Italian?

Speaker 5 (30:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
The Italian beer is called Oh is this something any.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Suddenly the power went out and realized they were no
longer climbing one air aircraft passenger aircraft, I.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Mean, brigitta jump in at any time. I mean, I
don't know if you're Italian.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
But well, my husband's Italian, but it doesn't really count
for oh, okay, does he's like Italian?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
He's like fake Italian.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know his family's from there, but he doesn't know
much he.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Does in pasta Okay, well if you know, that's really
all you need to know, right, I mean, it's all
a husband needs to know.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Does he know where Brindi?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
C is?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
No unverified videos it circulated circulated on social media showed
the plane's right engine flash flames at intervals.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
None of that was good.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
A couple of people said that they were texting their
goodbyes from thirty six thousand feet, afraid that this thing
was not going to make it down safely.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
It did. Everything is fine.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
They will replace the engine or whatever part needs to
be done, and then they'll use that plane again. There
was another plane that crashed Sunday, a little piper Cherokee
had to make an emergency landing at the Mona Vale
Golf Club in northern the Northern Beaches region of Sydney.
The onlookers at the golf course rushed to aid the

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two passengers, the pilot and an instructor. Surveillance footage released
by the golf course showed two people getting out of
the plane without serious injury. Earlier in the day, that
plane had taken off about eighty miles away I guess
that's the way they would say it, and then experienced
some sort of a power loss. The engine power lost power.
The pilot conducted an emergency landing right there on the

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sixth hole.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Good thing it was a par five. They made it
to the green in two.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
When we come back all of our trending stories more
on the bad traffic that exists. We have all kinds
of information for you to chew on. When it comes
to our true Crime Tuesday special guest is going to
be joining us as we talk about the Idaho murder
case and all the new information that's been coming out
about Brian Koberger and what an absolute monster this guy was.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
But the biggest news of the week.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's huge. It's huge, so you might you might want
to sit down, get a blanket, maybe crawl into bed
with an ice cream cone, a slack, a rich cracker,
a ritz the buttery.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
What about the old chicken and a biscuit crackers? Would
you ever do that in bed?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know what I come from, A long line of
chicken and a biscuit people. I found when I found
my biological mother and sister. They are chicken in a
biscuit people. And I've always had an affinity for chicken
and a biscuit crackers, and you can't find them everywhere.
I've always loved those, and I never knew why. And

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it turns out they it's genetic. It is genetic.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
We didn't know.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Thursday, we're gonna be talking more chicken and a biscuit
at Bjay's Restaurant and brew House on Beach Boulevard in
Huntington Beach. Come on out and say hi. You can
stick around for the whole show, you can come for
part of the show, whatever it is. Stop by for
your chance to win a gift card to Bjy's along
with Dodgers tickets. We're gonna be giving going to be
giving away Chargers tickets that will be giving away some

(33:53):
Gary and Shannon Show swag that will be on hand
that will be given away as well. BJ's Restaurant in
brew House in Huntington Beach on Beach Boulevard coming up
day after tomorrow. Of course, bjays is home to the
award winning handcrafted beers and their signature deep dish pizzas
Crackers famous crackers there. You could probably get a little
just some salteineish kind of crackers with your soup.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Sure who orders a soup at bjys.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
It's on the menu.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Sure, Well, they've got everything on the menu just about
I don't think I've ever seen anyone eating a soup.
Probably have a great like they might have an oyster
beef situation. Oh I bet they've got a beef oyster crackers.
That's probably what's probably what they have. All Right, we
could have talked about that off the air. You're the
one who.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Brought up the whole I E.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Crackers in bed okay, first of all, and you did
sound like that pretty nailed it, nailed that impression. Gary
and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been listening
to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear
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