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April 30, 2025 29 mins
Chinese Factories Slow in Early Sign of Trade War’s Toll.  Pakistan claims it has ‘credible intelligence’ India will strike within 36 hours. Runaway kangaroo on the loose named Sheila shuts down Alabama interstate. The Cross Returns as a Style Choice in Jewelry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I mean, when you've got.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Austin Barnes pinch hinting for sho hee a Tani, you're
seeing something special.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah, that's a lucky night. It's a good night for you.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
There's a lot going on on this Wednesday. It is
April thirtieth. At the bottom of this hour, we'll talk
about the runaway kangaroo, who could have no other name
than Sheila.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
That's the way we do things.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was looking through all the news and I thought,
oh my gosh, look at this Pakistan saying that India
is going to attack within the next two days.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh great, two nuclear powers.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right, We've got this monster earthquake and I'm worried about
Deborah reading the news in the La Times about the
monster quake and the flood, which is weird. The flood
risk is what the topic of the story is. And
I'm thinking, well, if an earthquake this large hits flood,
be damned flood. Ain't the flood ain't the thing? Yeah,

(01:04):
I think you're worried anyway. But the story that I
clicked on and read through to completion was the Kangaroo
on the loose story. That was the one I really
dug into this morning, first thing, before I got into
anything else. That was what really peauked my interest with
which talks about, you know, my mental stability quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, I mean, you had to cleanse your palette after
the GDP numbers came out this morning, and wow, the
economy contracted in the first three months of twenty twenty five.
Gross domestic product, which is the measure of all the
goods and services produced January through March, fell at three
tenths of a percent annualized pace. The economist surveyed by

(01:48):
Dow Jones had been looking for a gain of point
four percent after the GDP rose by two point four
percent in the fourth quarter of the last year. President
Trump squarely laying the blame at the of the former
president on Truth Social Today, he wrote, this is Biden's
stock market, not Trump's. I didn't take over until January twentieth.
Tarifs will soon start kicking in, and companies are starting

(02:10):
to move into the USA and record numbers. Our country
rule boom. But we will have but we have to
get rid of the Biden overhang. This will take a while,
has nothing to do with tariffs, only that he left
us with bad numbers. But when the boom begins, it
will be like no other. And then be patient. All caps, exclamation, exclamation.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
It is a what you watch in Wednesday? Let us
know what you're watching. I've been watching Race for the
Crown on Netflix. It's a documentary all about horse racing,
with the Derby set for just a few days away
this weekend May third.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It is a fun watch.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
But we start with President Trump's tariffs. As you mentioned,
We've got economy news, but so does China.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
China has bad economy news.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It surfaced early this morning Chinese factories experiencing the sharp
monthly slow down in more than a year.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
And this is when we've been talking about it.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
But this is when you're going to start to see
maybe some movement between the United States and China, when
the bad numbers start rolling in for both for both sides.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
UPS for example, announced it's going to cut twenty thousand jobs,
close seventy three buildings this year. GM says it's no
longer going to stand by its previous forecast for solid
profit growth this year. This is what's going on here.
China has been quieter. China's government doesn't do a bunch
of general news releases like we do when it comes

(03:34):
to gross domestic product and things like that. So what
we have to basically kind of figure out is how
this is in fact impacting chinay I was going to say,
the person Purchasing Managers Index fell to forty nine, down
from fifty point five. That doesn't mean anything until I
say that the manufacturing Purchasing Manager's Index indicates a day

(04:00):
deterioration in manufacturing in China.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Below fifty is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, and it is below fifty now just sank below fifty.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
This is the first official.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Indication that the Chinese economy is suffering from the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Now, that said, the.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Country refuses, it says, in its words, to cave to
a bully that coming from the China Foreign Ministry. Just
today they released a video Trump pushing back just as much,
saying that China's ripping us off like nobody's ever ripped
us off.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
So, like you mentioned, so we.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Talked yesterday Jeene Soroco, of course, the head of the
LA Ports, was talking about the decrease in the numbers
they're expecting starting next week, like thirty five to forty
percent fewer cargo containers coming into the port. Just next week,
a research report came out that said if Chinese exports
to the United States dropped by fifty percent, that more

(04:57):
than five and a half million Chinese peeceeople lose their
jobs immediately, not phased in over the course of weeks
or months.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
They lose them immediately.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Five point seven and they say that will grow to
fifteen point eight once the effects start syncing in.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Now, is that a drop in the bucket there?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I mean, they've got a billion people, but yes, that
would be a that would be a pretty massive.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Does China care about unemployment.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Not the same way we do.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Definitely, because they again, they're in this for the long game.
They're willing to go through the pain of fifteen point
eight million people on unemployment or being unemployed, much more
so than the United States R. Right, So this is
that we're getting into those times when you know, you
said that this is maybe when we start to see

(05:47):
some blinking or at least some movement in discussions between
the two countries. But it's definitely starting to heat up
quite a bit between the two.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Speaking of heating up, we saw that deadly attack on
tourists in Pakistan, India and Pakistan. I'm sorry that was
in India. It was not in Pakistan, the Kashmir the attack.
It was in India last week. Now India and Pakistan

(06:18):
apparently are going to go to fisticuffs within thirty six hours.
India right away accused Pakistan of backing that attack, and
now they have downgraded their diplomatic ties. They are armed
with nuclear weapons and things are not going well between
the two.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
What does that mean for all of us?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
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Speaker 5 (06:44):
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Because there's got to be someone because there's got to
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President Trump will meet with executives of major companies at
the White House today promoting investment in the US. Navidia,
Johnson and Johnson, Eli, Lilly, Ge Aerospace, and Soft Bank
companies have pledged to spend money in US based expansions
and projects. A lot of investors have fear over the

(08:18):
global tariff policies. This is going to be kind of
a pushback on any sort of fear moving forward when
it comes to investment in the country. Right now, the
Trump cabinet is holding an Apprentice style meeting.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
The lighting is better this time, barely.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
It is very reminiscent of the boardroom or whatever where
they all.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Kind of hate each other.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
They're sitting there trying to look like the prettiest princess
before the king, and they're all saying their peace and
then kind of looking at each other and shaking heads,
and everyone wants to stand out as I am the
most loyal, I am the most wonderful at my job.
It's very funny the environment that he fosters, and it
was front and center in the Apprentice, and it's front

(09:01):
and center now.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Hey, Gary Shannon, good morning, real quick, before your next
segment about the upcoming thermonuclear war between India and whatever
whatever other countries package, can you please let us know
what your plan of action, what the first thing you
would do when you hear over the radio that there
was a nuclear exchange between two nuclear powers on the

(09:26):
other side of the planet and to get ready for
China and Russia to get involved. What's your plan?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
What's your plan?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Would you go home?

Speaker 5 (09:39):
You know?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I just don't care. I guess is that bad?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
What are you gonna do? He's at the Dodger game anyways?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, there's no Oh, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
No, I mean, what what what would you do?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's not like there's one last chance to do a
bucket list item.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Or what have you.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, you got what thirty in a half an hour?
I mean I.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Can't assume it in Paris and have a bottle of Champagne
on the Eiffel Tower.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
He's assuming that, then, I'm assuming he's assuming then that
means that it all breaks loose and we're talking war games, right.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
But I mean when it comes to what personally would
you do? Would you want to do before nuclear war
is upon us? Is there something you would do? Would
you go get a donut?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Is that what I want? I'm going to do? Would
you get that donut? Maybe a couple?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, listen, this is not something that's poopoohable, because these
are two nuclear powers that do not like each other.
Like you said, there was a terrorist attack in that
Kashmir region last week and India has blamed Pakistan. This
is not the first time that's happened. This is not
the first time we've seen tensions ratchet up like this.
They have downgraded the diplomatic ties. As you said, this

(10:54):
is the biggest breakdown we've seen in probably five or
six years between these two India specifically, and they both
have nuclear weapons. That's why this is a big deal.
India's policy is no first use. They will not punch first,
but they will punch back, and that's their policy when
it comes to nuclear weapons.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Now, they've had flare ups between the two targeted attacks, reprisals,
things like that that have escalated in the past, a
lot of problems right there along the border.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's pretty common.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
But there is huge domestic pressure on India to respond
this time because most of the victims in last week's
attack were Indian, so there is a fervor that doesn't
usually exist in India right now. Now you mentioned the
no first use for India policy, Pakistan has a different policy,

(11:48):
full spectrum deterrens aimed at using tactic tactical nuclear weapons
to counter nuclear threats. So if Pakistan's senses the threat
is real, their policy is to strike to deter anything.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
That may happen.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
And what are we talking here now? Neither side says
they know how many nuclear warheads the other one has.
Generally it's accepted that they have somewhere. Both of them
have about one hundred and seventy one hundred and seventy
five a piece, although there are some experts who say
that Pakistan might even.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Have more than that. That's plenty.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
That's plenty not just to wipe out both of their countries,
but to cause here's the problems.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's the thing.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
The concern is not that India blows up Pakistan and
Pakistan blows up India. It's that everybody else then gets involved.
That you can't have a nuclear exchange without having outside
parties get involved.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And I think that's why you're gonna see nothing happen,
because nobody wants to get involved. You've got what's going
on in Gaza with the Israelis and the Palestinians, You've
got what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. There's no
appetite internationally for another conflict in South Asia.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
There just isn't. We ain't got time for that.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
We're all stocked up when it comes to people not
getting along. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has said he
will reach out to India and Pakistan urged other foreign
governments to step in and calm things down to our point.
So this probably will go nowhere, but it's something to
just keep on the radar because tensions are heightened more

(13:29):
so than usual there between India and Pakistan.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
And Pakistan has had its pants handed to it recently,
just in terms of the conventional wars that it's had.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I never understand that phrase, and I know I bring
it up every time you say it, or most times,
because you say it a lot. What does that even mean?
Like I took your pants and then I handed them
to you, Like, oh.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's very nice of you. Get it.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I think it said someone kicked the living tar out
of you and wiped all of your clothing off of you,
and they're handing their pants your pants back to you
to be.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
So they kicked the crap out of you and they
take off your pants and then they.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Don't You've never been in a fight with somebody where
they take off my pants.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
No, no, you beat them up and took off their pants.
Leave it.

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(14:38):
Mm hmm Gary, anything else to add to that?

Speaker 5 (14:41):
No, okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
We used to have someone who worked here used to
crap in the parking garage, and you know, we never
really dug into that enough.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Like I I feel like that's not a thing we
want to dig in.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, I really want to know the psychology behind that.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think it's just urgency. I don't. I assume I
thought it.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Was urgency too, But then there were testimonials from people
who said it was a pretty regular thing and that
it wasn't like, you know, I got to go right
now situation that it was a pretty deliberate, like you know, I.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Could leave my mark kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
No, like they could have used the bathroom in the building.
It wasn't an urgent situation.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
It was like a just a I just don't see
how every day or convenience that way or or no.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I right, there's something psychological that makes that you get
something out of pooping publicly, Like there's a psychological thing
that goes on there. I would assume, because it's not
an urgency thing, and what that is and what that
does for you, I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Wouldn't that be slightly devastating. Let's assume you had I'll
make it about me. Let's let's say I had an
urgent moment and as soon as I get off the
four and I'm like bull boy, something is brewing, The
boiling cauldron is getting is starting to overflow, okay, and
I gotta go. We don't need word pictures, but well

(16:14):
that I gotta go. U And I roll into the
parking garage and I find a secluded corner and I
just make it happen.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Urgency is so forgivable because it happens to everyone at
some point where you know, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I try, I try to be courteous, and you're a
floor drain or something like that, and then you know,
I come upstairs embarrassed and whatever clean up or why,
I don't know, and then some word gets out where
the I don't know, the building security sends an email
that says, hey, we saw somebody. We don't have a
good picture. Do you recognize this? How devastating would that be?

(16:49):
How embarrassing would that? I've peed in that garage this one? Yeah,
I was like twenty five, we'd gone out here in Burbank.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
This is what everyone was twenty oh.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
But it wasn't on a work hour, so right.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I mean, I got a text from Jodie Becker the
other day. She sent me something cheese related and says,
I still think of you when I see cheese, which
I thought was a great compliment. No, but I think
to your point, one urgency situation is forgivable. Nobody would
talk about it. It'd just be like, oh, that sucks,
he had to go. That sucks embarrassing. But it was
because this person regularly did their constitutional I don't know

(17:24):
why it's called that regularly. Did that chose to do that?
In the garage. That's a conversation. Yeah, that's a psychological
deep dive.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
And enough people close to that employee backed up the
story that we Again.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'm not mad at it. I'm not like iw wow.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I feel bad for people who have to clean it
up because apparently it was not cleaned up by the
person who made the mess.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
But aside from that, I'm just curious. What do you
get out of that? Is that true? It's like showing curious.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's some crazy high we don't even know about.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Maybe we should give it a shot. Sheila has been captured.
Sheila is a kangaroo that ran away and was rolling
down I eighty five and Macon County, Georgia, somewhere between Montgomery, Sorry, Alabama,
between Montgomery and Auburn.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Now, I didn't know they had kangaroos in Tusky, Alabama.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
They don't. This is a personal pet.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Okay, it's somebody who owns the kangaroo but also runs
a pumpkin patch and a petting zoo.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
This isn't pumpkin patch time of year.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, But that's why the kangaroo's board looking for a
little adventure. I see.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
So is it legal to own a kangaroo in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
It apparently is.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, it doesn't need to be legal, does it.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Right Alabama.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Alabama's law enforcement agency said this kangaroo was spotted yesterday
right alongside I eighty five and Macon County people. It
caused at least one two car accident because people were like,
was that a kangaroo? State orifice was a Warner Brothers cartoon.
They would think it was a giant mouse.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It is not legal to own a kangaroo in Alabama, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
There even without a permit. We'll go on, even without
a permit.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, I mean sometimes you can't just go buy a
kangaroo and keep it. Others states do allow you to
have they do special permits to you know, to care
for certain animals.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
There are areas of the country where it is legal
to own a kangaroo with those with those in mind,
but Alabama law restricts the possession of certain inherently dangerous animals,
and kangaroos fall under the Marsupiali order.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Which is included in the list, of course it is.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Macon County Sheriff Andre Brunson did sort of a play
by play of the capture.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
You're running behind her. Good lady, goat it. He does
have her. He does have it, and he bringing it down.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
They had to tranquilize the kangaroo.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
It was the owner who helped the law enforcement agency
go out and get the kangaroo. So the owner was
the one who was able to tranquilize it and put
Sheila back in their vehicle and take them home.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
This is what I learned this week on the Gary
and Shannon Show. Kangaroo ownership is legal with a permit.
Here washed for it, No no here colon, oh Washington, Idaho, Nevada,
New Mexico, and Texas. Now if you don't want to
bother with a permit, you can own a kangaroo without

(20:45):
a permit in South Carolina and West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Okay, hot day as well if you need a place
to move. You know, some people look at taxes, some
people look at school systems.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Other people look at kangaroo permits.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I could see you getting into that kangaroo.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
This is a pretty cool animal.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like I could see you all in khaki thing but
maybe with a pop up color on your belt.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
And taking care of a kangaroo. Today being April thirtieth,
tomorrow is the beginning of May.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's gonna be that's.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
So hack and trite and for other shows.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I heard Ryan Seacrest do it today. He's a Hall
of Famer.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
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Speaker 1 (21:34):
You gotta be careful with that, Like I just had
a big lunch and I'm driving home and I gotta
loosen up that button.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Another fifty I shouldn't say another another day for fifty
thousand LA County workers on strike again. This two day
walkout began Monday after failed negotiations with the county for
the SEIU Local seven twenty one. They want a new
contract after the last one expired last month. The US
economy contracted for the first three months of twenty twenty

(22:03):
five and on an import surge at the start of
Donald Trump's second term in office. Gross domestic product is
some of all the goods and services produced from January
through March fell three tenths of a percent, an annualized pace.
He took to Trump, did Trump took the truth social
to say this is Biden's stock market, not Trump's.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I didn't take over until January twentieth. Kamala Harris. We
mentioned this earlier in the week.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Expected to come out tonight, her first major speech since
she left the White House. She is going to address
the twentieth anniversary regala for Emerge, which is a group
that trains and supports women who run for office.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Did you hear about John Elway?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yes? His is it his agent?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, just a longtime friend. I think they The two
went into business with a winery a handful of years
ago as well. Longtime friend John Elways Jeff Spurbeck is
his name. Fighting for his life Apparently the two were
at Stagecoach over the weekend with family and friends. John
Elway was driving a golf cart. This guy fell off
the back, hit his head, was conscious, not conscious and breathing.

(23:13):
But they say now he's on life support, fighting for
his life. They may be harvesting his organs.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, apparently.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
The TMZ report I saw said that he's not considered
clinically dead or clinically brain dead, but that there's zero
chance for recovery.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well, he did hit his head off the back of
that golf cart, but who knows.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Beyonce has been at SOFI for the last couple of nights.
She's been to be there for a few more. People
are upset that she sings the Star Spangled banner near
the beginning of her passer.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh that's right, I forgot.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You know, there's people that are upset.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
With that that somehow that patriotism depends on who's in
the White House or something.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So she's getting bat and blasted for that.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Well it's not it's okay. The difference to cross in
a crucifix.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, crucifix has Jesus's body on it, got it.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's what you see when you go into the Catholic church.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
That's a I was gonna say, that's a very Catholic
it is image you go into other churches, it's just
your good old cross, just the place.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
So with the Catholics, you see all the horror, there's
a disclaimer. It's the whole bit, you got the whole body.
Not really, but there should be this day of age,
because it can be a frightening if.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
There's a disclaimer.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
When I watch a show that says smoking, there probably
should be a disclaimer as you walk into a Catholic church,
because a crucifixion, malnourished, nearly naked man on a cross
up ahead.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
The cross, at least according to the New York Times,
has become or has returned, I should say, as a
very popular style choice when it.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Comes to jewelry.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I never thought it went away across.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I remember there being a time in the midnight nineties
where like all the nineties fashions have come back, and
I realized that, and I remember me being.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Not the best Catholic in the world. I guess we
can all agree.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
On, but thinking that when the crosses were in vogue,
remember everyone had those oversized crosses, like the middle crosses
with like the black.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Velvet kind of chain.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
It was very in like nineteen ninety five ish, and
I remember thinking like that that was sacrilegious, Like I
wouldn't wear a decorative cross.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Around my neck.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Like if I was gonna wear a cross, it would
be a religious gold cross or what have you. It
wouldn't be once something I got from Clare's, you know
what I mean. Like I remember thinking that that was
just not a good I wasn't into that. Look that
that was very popular. Apparently that is coming back. The
crosses that are not just the cross that maybe your
grandmother gave you for your first communion, but it's or

(25:55):
your husband or what have you. It is it is
the costume jewelry cross that is back. But again I
don't think it went anywhere. I just remember them being
hyper popular at that time.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
It's you could go around this. They're still doing.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
The what do you call the cabinet meeting there in
the White House, and they're still going around the table
and showing people and some of I haven't kept track obviously,
but some of the women who are in the cabinet
are wearing Oh yeah, it's a frost.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Very popular thing to have in the Trump administration, with
the cleavage and the cross.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
And DC is that is where people notice it that
that people have said they've they've been traveling through the
is it the metro in d C whatever they call
their subway system there that you can see it pretty
prominently displayed that people are wearing crosses more often than
they had in the past. And again I don't even
necessarily know if it's more it's that people are paying

(26:51):
attention to it again because some very high profile people
are wearing them out and about.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I don't know who's paying attention to the cabinet meeting.
But remember we did the story about.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Z x y k w A. I plus sure.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Really getting into religion more so than we've seen. The
young people are more so into religion now, and you
know young people wear the jewelry.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
But when I see somebody wearing a cross, I don't
automatically assume they're wearing it for religious purposes, because that's
just a way that I've always I've never seen. I'm
not saying I haven't seen the cross as a religious symbol.
It's that I don't know if people put it on
consciously saying, or they're doing it to display their faith.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I haven't seen one yet in recent years. Like I said,
I saw a bunch of those in like the nineties,
right where I did not take them as religious on
most people because that was just the fashion.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
For many years since then.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
When I see a cross, I think somebody is religious
that wears it. I haven't seen one recently that looks
like a trend.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Peace well, if you saw one, I mean.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
The included pictures are Kim Kardashian wearing a couple of them.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
This is she was the person of the well she
is she claims to be.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
But see these are the ones that remind me of
the mid nineties, these big metal crosses.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, the oversized crosses. The other one is that's uh,
what's the name?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Madonna's daughter is wearing lords and I don't know anything
about her.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
But again, well Madonna was a big proponent of the crosses. Yeah,
but almost ironically where I had relatives that would not
watch her music videos.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Because she was wearing the cross.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
All of that, all of it.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
She had several very Catholic centered or religion centered themes.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, and she Yeah, I don't get into it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You know what it makes you feel.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
It makes you feel funny, makes me feel fourteen again.
And I don't like that. You don't like that, not
with her. No, you didn't like that. It made you
feel like she was dirty.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
She was always just too fast for you. She was
a hussy. As my dad would say.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Really, oh, I don't show your dad name calling.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
He would say it in his head. I could hear it. Okay,
yeah we had a connection.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
What is he saying right now?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
He's gone not from our heart.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Oh that's true.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Gary and Shannon will can you miss any part of
the show, by the way, how could you?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
But if you miss any of the part of the show.
You can always go back and check out the podcast.
Wherever you find your podcast, just type in Gary and
chann my.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Dead father saying aren't Hussies?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Great, we'll laugh more.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right after this you've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on KFI
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