September 12, 2025 • 30 mins
#SWAMPWATCH / Hula Hoop Retreat. Cellphone emergency alerts aren't foolproof. Could blaring sirens help during the next big fire? Why more people are tuning the news out: ‘Now I don’t have that anxiety’.
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It was everywhere. It was ubiquitous around the radio station.
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Now tubes and tapes, baby, and now it's uh outsourced.
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She's doing anything else. Let's by for swamp Watch.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that Lolley Box.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
So what.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So that is now you train the squaw.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
You know, murvans have always been gone at present, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Whether people voting for you with not swamp Watch, they're
all counteraed.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, outside of the investigation and everything that's going on
with the Charlie Kirk murder, the announcement this morning, of course,
that they have picked up a twenty two year old
guy that they believe is responsible for it. The announcement
actually came from the President. He was on the set
of Fox and Friends this morning in New York and
said that basically right before he came out onto the
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s they told him that they had an arrest and
nobody knew anything at that point.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The President took a gamble. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
We were saying, did you see what he just said?
I hope we have no other information. It took a
I don't know an hour to corroborate it. But the
President adding public Information Officer for the FBI to his
long list of duties.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, one of the things that he also said is
that Memphis is going to be the target of a
National Guard deployment to fight crime. Said it is a
deeply troubled city. He said, by the way, we'll bring
in the military too.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
If we need it. Again, getting into that very.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Legally gray area when it comes to possecomatatis and whether
or not the military can be involved in civilian law enforcement.
But he spent the he spent a lot of time
obviously talking about whether or not to deploy the National
Guard after things went apparently things went well in Washington,
d C. He's obviously been targeting Chicago for at least
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a lot of the rhetoric, not necessarily for actual National
Guard troops that he'd.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Prefer to go there.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, but apparently he was put off by the hostel
setting there. I think that the sort of whole narrative
of going into the Democratic led cities in Red States
continues here. Whether you know you're following the specifics about
where the crime is. The narrative in these places is
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that there is a lot of crime.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I know people.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I was just in Franklin, Tennessee, a couple of months ago,
and they were near Nashville, and they were just saying,
absolutely not, we do not go to Memphis. And I
think that the statistics say that major crime has dropped
in recent years like other major cities, but Memphis historically
is known as a dangerous place. I would like to
see them send a National Guard in to deal with
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what has happened to Broadway in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Have you seen this? I was last there in not April,
September of last year.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Every B list country star has a bar. Now, yeah,
you wanted to investigator? I need, I need, we need
to figure out what happened to music Row.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Let's see, I'm trying to think of uh. I don't
think I spent a lot of time there in September
the last year. But I've been I've been up and
down that whole thing that acme feed and seed right
there on the along the river.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You haven't been to a lot of bachelorette parties. It
sounds like no, no, I stay away from the woo buses.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, where they're all, uh the bicycle drink the drink
bicycle end. I'm talking about the giant massive bike thing
that they're all they're all pumping away on this.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
The pedal booze tour. Anyway, I'm sorry to derail you
for a real story.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then the other thing that came out yesterday, Republicans
moved to speed up some of the Senate confirmation of
the President's nominees by changing the rules.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
This is what they refer to as the nuclear options.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Senators now voted to allow themselves to change rules with
a simple majority instead of taking the sixty votes that
is usually required to change rules. And again, this bites
the party whoever does it. This eventually comes around to
bite them in the ass. And this will eventually bite
the Republicans in the ass as well. But the reason
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they're doing it, they're saying it's necessary because Democrats have
been holding up the confirmations of several of the nominees
dozens I think of the nominees that President Trump has
put in there. So this is to break that logjam
to get people into these positions so that we don't
have most of them judicial appointments, et cetera, so that
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we don't have a continuing slowdown of our judicial process.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Reminds me a little bit of executive order palooza, where
all of a sudden, when you start legislating through these
executive orders, what happens immediately when the other party gets
in then they just start the executive exactly, They start
undoing what you did.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
All right, we'll talk about hula hoops. A new wellness
trend out there is hula hoops. Would you you go
to a hula hoop retreat?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
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Speaker 2 (07:08):
Forty Alanis Morris at It's a good makes me cry.
It's somebody said they love Kenna was at you?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I think that was actually Ali Morris sad and makes
me sad, But I like being sad.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Wait, yeah, why did I get it? I enjoy the music.
It has powerful meaning behind it.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Sometimes you just got to put on jagged Little pill
and have a good cry in the way home.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So so so, Alanis Morris at predates Taylor Swift, but
it seems like they do a similar products or at
times Taylor Swift has done things that would probably echo
Alanis Morris.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I think that's a fair assumption. It's sort of an
Ashley furniture to an Ikea.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I think that there's a level of angst that will
always be part of the ephemera of young pop music. Okay,
but why would I I why do you want to
feel sad? Yes, it's always good to be in touch
with the feelings, my friend, and I think that there
is a sense that looked me in the eye when
you said that, because.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, you've proven my point. I don't know, just just
try to smooth things over here.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
The big story today is that a twenty two year
old has been arrested for the shooting death of Charlie
Kirk in Utah. Apparently confessed to his father that he
was the shooter, and then dad got in touch with law.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Enforcement and clarify whether it was a priest or not.
That assumes that he was Catholic, And in the news
stories she keeps saying that it was his father and
a priest, and I would like that clarify.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, there's two different people there, that's what they're talking about.
It was it was his father, who happens to be
sheriff's deputy, lowercase father, father, F little right, lowercase F,
the pastor remember, the clergy whatever. I don't know what
denomination it was, but apparently the father was the one
that reached out to somebody in the priesthood or somebody
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a member of mastor thank you, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
A good one. So we don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't think it is entirely pertinent to it at all,
but I understand the confusion that people the father the priest.
If you're Catholic, you refer to the priest as a father.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But I don't think it's yeah. And also I don't think.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That we are insinuating that by any means this is
Catholic behavior. No, no, no, or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I think so so, speaking of I love the I
don't know if we did this on purpose, but this
Washington Post article starts off with in a pastoral campground
south of Lansley, Michigan.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
A bunch of people show up to this.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Retreat, the Michigan Hula Dance Retreat, and every August for
the last decade, hula hoopers and other performers with props
known as flow artists to have a name for them.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Of course, they do.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Have convened at this campground in Michigan to practice a
grown up version of this pastime, and over the long
weekend they twirl hoops. Not just on their hips, that's
the old fashioned way to do it. They do it
on their arms and their legs and their necks, sometimes
while sliding sideways down a pole that I would love
to see balancing.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You would, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Sure you would, You've said, not suggesting that at Star
Gardens in North Hollywood they know how to do this.
I'm just saying that would be quite an athletic feat.
That's that's how I'm going to sell it to my wife.
You're going to bring I'm just gonna go watch the athleticism. Yes, totally,
maybe balancing on one foot, standing on their head. All
body parts are welcome to give it a twirl. Rachel
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Emmerling tried a new worship, a new workshop that advertised
boob hooping, and.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
She told.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
She told the Washington Post quote, I got one boob
hoop revolution?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Is that a one boob? Is that one boob hoop revolution?
Or Is that a she's talking about? It's a boob
hoop revolution? Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh? I see? Is it just one boob? Is it
a monoc or is it one revolution?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
But I don't think that anyone would do one revolution
of a or does she mean like this is.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
A starter revolution?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
She only got it once around before it fell as
a poet, or maybe she got it around one of
them before.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This is an anatomical mystery. Well, maybe the Washington Post
should have a better editor. It would make that clear.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It is confusing.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
One hundred and forty dollars for a three day pass
to join this hula hoop retreat includes a campsite.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It includes workshops. I'm going to say that word again.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It includes workshops on hula hooping special activities. The Michigan Retreat,
they said, is one of the least expensive when it
comes to hula hooping, with roughly fifty five or so
people involved. It's also a very tight knit community that
participates frequently. That participants were equently refer to each other
as their Michigan Hoop family.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
There's two that are happening in September. One in Colorado
and one in Costa Rica. They're sold out, so sorry, Gary,
I wouldn't mind hula hoop retreat in Costa Rica. That
sounds lovely. Do you have tickets for about nineteen hundred dollars?
Would you have that kind of money for that? I'd
have to plan ahead. Groups also organize trips in Turkey, Balley,
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in Australia, Bali, yeah, Bali for the hoop and in
Bali this Rachel Emmerlin says, I've never felt more myself
when I am hula hooping or with hula hooping people.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It doesn't feel like exercise. Now, that's listen. That's an
important aspect of this. They're talking about this as a
wellness lifestyle choice that people are making to.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Who to hoop, to hoop or not to hoop or
not to hoop. The problem, I believe is how you
actually hooping is a workout.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Male Clinics, Orthopedics and sports Medicine compares hula hooping
to salsa swing belly dancing. In addition to burning calories,
they said maybe up to two hundred calories for thirty
for thirty minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Thirty minutes of hoops for two hundred calories. That doesn't
seem like a lot of calories either, for the amount
of time that you're putting in, right, would you do
me favor. You have a computer in front of you,
can you search for what.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Is the longest the record for the longest time spent
hula hooping?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Okay? And this is just classic hula hooping. This is
not boob hooping. No, no, nothing out of the ordinary.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
The longest hooping record for a continuous marathon, according to
Google's AI, was set by Jenny Doane in Chicago, Illinois
in twenty nineteen one hundred hours.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That can't be right.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I don't Do you think that they lie on the internet. Yes,
I think that's one of those AI. Do you think
that phantom thing? All right, well, let's check in with WTTW. Okay,
it's official Chicago and Jenny dones that's new world record
for hula hooping for a session one hundred hours.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That seems physically impossible. That's for someone to stay awake
for one hundred hours while they're doing physical activity for
one hundred hours.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
This is PBS Chicago.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So if you're calling PBS local public media a liar.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Even the Guinness Book of World Records has it at
one hundred hours. That is truly crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Then I'd like to know some of the details, like
is she allowed bathroom breaks, can she drink water, can
she eat? Or does she have to do all of
that stuff while she's still hooping.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Well, I'll tell you there's a photo of her during
a session and her pants and legs look unsoiled. So well,
I just well, okay, could it mean I'm just maybe
it was the beginning of one hundred hours.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It was the first forty five minutes. Maybe she's wearing
a diaper.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's possible, all right. Everybody gets the cell phone emergency alerts.
They're not full proof. If we were talking about the
difference between say, amber alerts, fire evacuation alerts, earthquake early
warning alerts, we'll talk about what might help in the
event that an actual disaster is bearing down on you.
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This week on the Gary and Channon Show, we.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Are getting a developing story out of the Chicago area.
Somebody who was targeted during an Immigration Customs Enforcement traffic
stop gunned it and dragged an ICE officer with his vehicle.
The officer eventually shot and killed the guy. Another officer
was a parent also injured.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
In all that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
ICE came out with the statement you had it there
you were talking about. DHS had a statement.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, they said, this morning while carrying out an enforcement
operation and they used the verbage targeting a criminal illegal alien.
He resisted arrest, attempted to flee the scene, and dragged
the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer a significant distance. The
officer was sustained multiple injuries, though and is in stable condition.
The suspect in this situation, they say.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Was pronounced dead.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The Assistant Secretary, Tristia McLaughlin says we're praying for the
speedy recovery of the law enforcement officer, but blamed viral
social media videos and activists encouraging illegal aliens, she says,
to resist law enforcement not only spreading misinformation, but also
undermining public safety as well as the safety of our
officers and those being apprehended. Whether or not, I'm sure
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we'll get more information about this. I'm sure there is video,
whether it's bodycam video or even witness video. They say
is that this suspect refused to follow law enforcement commands,
drove his car at law enforcement officers, and one of
the ice officers was hit. Like I said, so the officer,
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fearing for his own life, then allegedly, at last, according
to the statement, opened fire.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
At the target of the stop. By the way, is undocumented.
Guide apparently has a history of reckless driving. I don't
know why that was a specific if that was enough
that that's what they were targeting him for the criminal record,
this history of reckless driving, but the fact that it
was a driving incident that then led to his own death.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So we talked.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
We were talking a little bit earlier off the air
about cell phone emergency alerts, and we've all been subjected
to them as probably the right way to put it.
Of course, back in January, when the fires were burning,
the LA County version of emergency alerts went out despite
the fact that people did not need to hear them.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
County.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Why these alerts went out when it was a mistake
that undermines whatever credibility you're supposed to have when you
are an agency that needs to use emergency alerts like
this and there is a there are questions about how
you might be able to tweak this system or an
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emergency alert system period to make it more a believable,
be reliable and see paid attention to Yeah like that,
that's so, which instills a sense of anxiety. Yeah, and
because you don't know if it's an amber alert, a
silver alert, an earthquake, right, a fire evacuation. And even
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as you were saying and back in January, we got
false ones that weren't even created by machines, that were
falsely pushed by people who are sitting somewhere in an
emergency alert center sending these.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Out right, So what if how could they change it?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And we were kind of I think it was it's
tongue in cheek to say it this way, but it
almost makes perfect sense to alter the tone or the
message or the sound or whatever that is the notification,
depending on what it is that you're trying to alert
the public about. If it's I jokingly said, if it's
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an amber alert, the sound of a baby crying. That
would if I heard a baby crying right now, I'm
going to pay a whole lot more attention to.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Obviously you haven't met me. Obviously we haven't worked together
for very long. Well, i'm looking at you, I'm moving.
If you started crying, I would notice that. No, But yeah,
I think you're right. I don't know if it's like
a technological limit or if that's just I think it
just goes to the speakers of your phone. I don't
think that that's like a special feature. It's just whatever
emergency sound it is. You would think that they'd have
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some kind of standardized or they should at least have
a standardized plan to say, here's the fire one, here's
the earthquake one, here's the amber alert, here's the silver
Now what would if a baby crying for AMB alert?
What would you do for a silver alert?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
H Clara Peller yelling where's the beef or something? I
don't know, or where's Grandma? Yeah, if she was still
a lived rest, I don't know. That's I've fallen, I've
fallen a kid. Yeah, that'd be lifeful, pretty easy, that's easy.
The life alert people might be upset by that. Yeah,
they'd have a license. They have to pay a lot
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of money for it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I mean I think that you you know, you go
through this as we have period of time that was
really really, really scary for a week and a half
where you didn't know if the wind was going to
pick up again. And I'm talking about early January, and
you thought anytime you heard that, you better be ready
to go. Yeah, and even when you got the false ones,
that thought. I think there's one went off in the
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middle of the night in the valley and the areas
that where I live, where it was not even close
to the hills. It was a false alert, and I thought,
I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, I remember that that It was about twelve thirty
quarter to one, if I'm not mistaken, when that one
went out. And that was that the night of or
the night after. Yeah, the fires, so everybody's still on
high alert. There's still very active scenes. People are still
you know, rushing to get out of the way of
this fires. And that woke me up to the point
with enough adrenaline, I wasn't going back to sleep right.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I know there were people who had much worse than
I did. But still when Gary doesn't get his beauty
rest right, you still see it nine months later, you
can still see it into My first thing I thought
when I saw you is that that guy didn't sleep
well January eighth. But the that is that that kind
of we're we humans are wired to in the event
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of an emergency, ramp up our adrenaline. It's our fight
or flight response. We're used to it. So when something
like this triggers it and there is no actual situation
that requires fight or flight, you start ignoring it.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And I think that's the biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Have you ever live anywhere where there were tornadoes or
they had tornado warning signs sirens? Now, so in the
Midwest day every Friday at eleven am, they test the
tornado warning system, which are big sirens on the top
of a tower. They blanket the Midwest. Yeah, and you
hear it, and you know that it's eleven o'clock in
the morning, so you're used to it, and even testing
it or whatever, you don't get desensitized to it. But
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when you hear it and it's not eleven am. You
can hear it anywhere. You don't need a phone. You
know that that you know what that means and what
that sound is, and that you should it's like an
air raid siren.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well, that's a good point that there used to be
air raid sirens everywhere in California as well. My I've
talked many times about living or having relatives that live
up in the passer Erobos Sa Miguel area, Sam Miguel's
tiny little town, you know, population eleven hundred or whatever
it is, and on their library in the middle of town,
they used to have one of those air raid sirens.
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And your point, it would go off every day at noon.
In the event that that thing went off and it
wasn't noon, I'm at the dead town. You're getting out
of there. I mean, you have no idea what's coming
or are the world's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean I think that one of the I mean,
this is a question that was posed, but why don't
we have those like we have tornado sirens in the Midwest.
They say the answer is complicated because they blamed the
fact that it's hard to hear them inside double pain
or triple pane windows.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't know about that. I could still hear them.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Topography blocks the cell service that can also block the
sound of sirens. They are expensive and require ongoing maintenance,
but also that they can be confusing without proper public education.
And they cited the example of the fires in Hawaii
and Maui the hiness siren system. People didn't know what
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that sound was. They thought it was maybe for a tsunami.
The man, now they're hackable, that's right. Someone, could you know,
set them off when they don't need.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Can we not just have both?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Can we not have an alert on the phone that
says what it is that makes a sound that makes
you look at it. And also if you've got sirens
and something is terrible and.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Then you look at your phone and ask, what's that
siren and it says, Hey, that's the fire, that's the earthquake,
that's the tornado, whatever it is. I'm sorry I didn't
understand that, right. I did something in July. I'm still
feeling the effects of today, and I'll explain when week.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Twelve o'clock hours still to come, all of our trending stories,
our gas fantasy for play what you learned this week
on The Gary and Shannon Show, and then we round
it all out for this long week with the nine
News Nugget.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You need to know. It's an action packed hour in
eight minutes. You better buckle up. You might want to
do some stretching beforehand coming hour.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, I've never done.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It before, so I should start. You've never stretched, ever stretched? Okay,
this is a good time. Yeah, it's a good bit.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
One of those things where you're a kid and you
think like, men don't stretch, and then it's a stupid
thing that gets stuck in your head forever. That's for girls,
that's for gymnasts, for lady boys.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So I did something in July when I was at
an airbo I took a VAK and I'm sitting at
the airport and one of the things I literally did
while waiting to board the plane was I went through
my phone figured out how to turn off notifications for
a series of different apps, and I went through your
(25:16):
grinder app by app. Grinder was one of them. You
had to shut that down, pinging all day all Night,
ABC News, BBC News, Let's see, NBC News, CNN, Fox News,
CNBC News. I turned them all Instagram, I turned them all,
(25:40):
put on Kramer, all of it. My God, and it
was amazing because the first couple of days I started thinking,
my phone is not working because I'm not getting any alerts,
knowing full well I was the one who a few
moments ago turned them all off, but for some reason
it was so I mean, after while, I realized that
(26:01):
there was silence once again, that there were moments where
I could put my phone down over there and not
jump up every time it binged or pinged or blinked
or whatever it did blinked, And there's a The news
avoidance is now at a record high. I mean, this
is a perfect week to use as an example of
(26:21):
why people want to avoid the news too many times.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's just awful.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's bad, and unfortunately kind of in the business we're
in that is a lot of times what drives viewership
or listenership is the worst news.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
The biggest struggle personally in my very easy life is
exactly what you're talking about, the sense of I need
to know because I will do a good job if
I have this information in my head, and more importantly,
if I act on it, if I make a video
about this, if I make a report about this. We
(26:59):
did thisorry about Philly's Karen on Monday. God, that was
just Monday of this week. The woman who was accused
of it was like three weeks now. It's crazy and
it went bonkers.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
But am I like making the world a better place
by weighing in by adding to this conversation?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Probably not? And I think that that goes for people
as well who are listening to this. It's that you
need to have a balance, and the Internet doesn't care
because it is so different even than in the days
of cable news ten years ago, fifteen years ago, where okay,
you watch this thing, it's curated, it's over, it goes
to a new story. The way that the Internet is
(27:38):
now is that it figures out exactly what is your
emotional tipping point, right, and it feeds to it over
and over and over and over again, and it exploits it.
It's that it's Pavlov's dog, right, every time the bell
rings he gets a treat. And now it's just the
constant I mean literally, it's that being that the ding,
the ding, the ting ting.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And that's why, I mean, we were talking about this earlier.
It's hard to put that phone down. They know what's
going on in your head and your little lizard brains
like I want more of that, I want more of that,
I want more of that, and it just repeats itself.
And I know there's a lot of thoughts about this,
and I don't mean it as a as an assessment
on him as a person, but once Elon Musk took
(28:18):
over Twitter, I know personally, once it became X, the
level of violence that I saw went way up. The
level of I mean, it was like normal to just
open it up and look at a snuff film.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That was just what I was seeing all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And I feel like the collective effect of that, not
for me, for everybody, is just unmeasurable at this point.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, but you can't think that it's not gonna make
people weird.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So then how do we do we break this cycle?
Is there an event that breaks this cycle? Do we
knock all the cell towers in the in the nation
off off the grid?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I mean, you and I we're doing this tonight. Well,
I don't know about that. We're going off busy tonight.
Oh your tonight is too more to tonight. So I
think that there's I'm curious what happened with you after
you did that? Did you then say, okay, I'm going
to keep these off and you've you've kept them off?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was it was an un uh, it was an
unintended consequence that I just never turned them back on.
In fact, producer Michelle down the Hall was asking me
today if I got a notification about the something that
she had sent out, and I realize I haven't had
those kind of notifications in three months, and I'm not.
I don't feel worse for it. I don't feel like
I'm behind the times. I don't find there's so many
(29:29):
other ways to get that news. I don't need it
mainlined into my head.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
And the biggest thing is that you're in control now, right,
which is the number one I think problem going forward
is that this I'm holding up a phone, this is
television on the radio.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Phone has the potential of.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Being so helpful and cool and awesome, and we can
connect things and learn stuff and become experts on all
kinds of things that we never would have had access
to in the past. But having the ability to self select,
I think, is where I want to be. Yeah, I
want to be making the choices for myself. It's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
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and all the other good stuff coming up in our
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App Andy Reesmeyer, who's joined us to do the show today. Yes, sir,
warming up for the two hours on Sunday. You can
hear Andy from two to four on Sundays here on KFI.
I'm listening very closely, so I could just parrot what
you say here and regurgitate it as my own on
this Sunday if you want, you could just play the show,
(00:28):
play the show.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I've thought about it. I mean, it's a possibility.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I was just gonna do like Conway and then when
it comes in and he goes KFI AM six forty
Conway Show, I was just gonna go Andy Reesemeyer.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Show right out, let it go, and then just let
it ver.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I have a you know, splice the tape.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Spice the tape. Nobody knows what that means. Nobody in
the other room knows what that means.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is that true? I guarantee you they've never Actually.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I got to tell you something a secret that only
me and everybody else knows.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
This used to be a radio station, I know, used
to be a real place kids in.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The old days. Yeah, I would love it. There is
a I don't know why I thought of this, but
I want to get old reel to reel machines. Yeah,
and mount them on the wall here so it looks
like we knew what we were a real place.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There used to be equipment racks and amplifiers.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The hum of the of the eighty hurts. Yeah, it was.
It was everywhere. It was ubiquitous around the radio station.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now tubes and tapes, baby, and now it's uh outsourced.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hr.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Good morning. Hopefully Shannon got her Gas Fantasy four play
picks and today, because the people want to know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People do want to know, Keana, how are we working
on that? Did you text Shan in the games for
this weekend? Okay, excellent, Yes, next hour we're going to
do our Gas Fantasy for play. We got four NFL
games that we choose from and try to get all
of the winners. If you are able to do so,
then you're gonna win some Gary and Channon Choe swag.
And I'm sure she's listening, so you know you don't
even have to text her. Can I doubt it is.
(02:03):
She's doing anything else. Let's by for swamp Watch.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that Lolley Box.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are done.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
So what.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So that is now you train the squaw.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
You know, murvans have always been gone at present, but
they're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Whether people voting for you with not swamp Watch, they're
all counteraed.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, outside of the investigation and everything that's going on
with the Charlie Kirk murder, the announcement this morning, of course,
that they have picked up a twenty two year old
guy that they believe is responsible for it. The announcement
actually came from the President. He was on the set
of Fox and Friends this morning in New York and
said that basically right before he came out onto the
(02:59):
s they told him that they had an arrest and
nobody knew anything at that point.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The President took a gamble. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
We were saying, did you see what he just said?
I hope we have no other information. It took a
I don't know an hour to corroborate it. But the
President adding public Information Officer for the FBI to his
long list of duties.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, one of the things that he also said is
that Memphis is going to be the target of a
National Guard deployment to fight crime. Said it is a
deeply troubled city. He said, by the way, we'll bring
in the military too.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
If we need it. Again, getting into that very.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Legally gray area when it comes to possecomatatis and whether
or not the military can be involved in civilian law enforcement.
But he spent the he spent a lot of time
obviously talking about whether or not to deploy the National
Guard after things went apparently things went well in Washington,
d C. He's obviously been targeting Chicago for at least
(04:01):
a lot of the rhetoric, not necessarily for actual National
Guard troops that he'd.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Prefer to go there.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, but apparently he was put off by the hostel
setting there. I think that the sort of whole narrative
of going into the Democratic led cities in Red States
continues here. Whether you know you're following the specifics about
where the crime is. The narrative in these places is
(04:28):
that there is a lot of crime.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I know people.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I was just in Franklin, Tennessee, a couple of months ago,
and they were near Nashville, and they were just saying,
absolutely not, we do not go to Memphis. And I
think that the statistics say that major crime has dropped
in recent years like other major cities, but Memphis historically
is known as a dangerous place. I would like to
see them send a National Guard in to deal with
(04:52):
what has happened to Broadway in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Have you seen this? I was last there in not April,
September of last year.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Every B list country star has a bar. Now, yeah,
you wanted to investigator? I need, I need, we need
to figure out what happened to music Row.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Let's see, I'm trying to think of uh. I don't
think I spent a lot of time there in September
the last year. But I've been I've been up and
down that whole thing that acme feed and seed right
there on the along the river.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You haven't been to a lot of bachelorette parties. It
sounds like no, no, I stay away from the woo buses.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, where they're all, uh the bicycle drink the drink
bicycle end. I'm talking about the giant massive bike thing
that they're all they're all pumping away on this.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
The pedal booze tour. Anyway, I'm sorry to derail you
for a real story.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then the other thing that came out yesterday, Republicans
moved to speed up some of the Senate confirmation of
the President's nominees by changing the rules.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
This is what they refer to as the nuclear options.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Senators now voted to allow themselves to change rules with
a simple majority instead of taking the sixty votes that
is usually required to change rules. And again, this bites
the party whoever does it. This eventually comes around to
bite them in the ass. And this will eventually bite
the Republicans in the ass as well. But the reason
(06:18):
they're doing it, they're saying it's necessary because Democrats have
been holding up the confirmations of several of the nominees
dozens I think of the nominees that President Trump has
put in there. So this is to break that logjam
to get people into these positions so that we don't
have most of them judicial appointments, et cetera, so that
(06:38):
we don't have a continuing slowdown of our judicial process.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Reminds me a little bit of executive order palooza, where
all of a sudden, when you start legislating through these
executive orders, what happens immediately when the other party gets
in then they just start the executive exactly, They start
undoing what you did.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
All right, we'll talk about hula hoops. A new wellness
trend out there is hula hoops. Would you you go
to a hula hoop retreat?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Forty Alanis Morris at It's a good makes me cry.
It's somebody said they love Kenna was at you?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I think that was actually Ali Morris sad and makes
me sad, But I like being sad.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Wait, yeah, why did I get it? I enjoy the music.
It has powerful meaning behind it.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Sometimes you just got to put on jagged Little pill
and have a good cry in the way home.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So so so, Alanis Morris at predates Taylor Swift, but
it seems like they do a similar products or at
times Taylor Swift has done things that would probably echo
Alanis Morris.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I think that's a fair assumption. It's sort of an
Ashley furniture to an Ikea.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I think that there's a level of angst that will
always be part of the ephemera of young pop music. Okay,
but why would I I why do you want to
feel sad? Yes, it's always good to be in touch
with the feelings, my friend, and I think that there
is a sense that looked me in the eye when
you said that, because.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, you've proven my point. I don't know, just just
try to smooth things over here.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
The big story today is that a twenty two year
old has been arrested for the shooting death of Charlie
Kirk in Utah. Apparently confessed to his father that he
was the shooter, and then dad got in touch with law.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Enforcement and clarify whether it was a priest or not.
That assumes that he was Catholic, And in the news
stories she keeps saying that it was his father and
a priest, and I would like that clarify.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, there's two different people there, that's what they're talking about.
It was it was his father, who happens to be
sheriff's deputy, lowercase father, father, F little right, lowercase F,
the pastor remember, the clergy whatever. I don't know what
denomination it was, but apparently the father was the one
that reached out to somebody in the priesthood or somebody
(09:09):
a member of mastor thank you, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
A good one. So we don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I don't think it is entirely pertinent to it at all,
but I understand the confusion that people the father the priest.
If you're Catholic, you refer to the priest as a father.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But I don't think it's yeah. And also I don't think.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That we are insinuating that by any means this is
Catholic behavior. No, no, no, or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I think so so, speaking of I love the I
don't know if we did this on purpose, but this
Washington Post article starts off with in a pastoral campground
south of Lansley, Michigan.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
A bunch of people show up to this.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Retreat, the Michigan Hula Dance Retreat, and every August for
the last decade, hula hoopers and other performers with props
known as flow artists to have a name for them.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Of course, they do.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Have convened at this campground in Michigan to practice a
grown up version of this pastime, and over the long
weekend they twirl hoops. Not just on their hips, that's
the old fashioned way to do it. They do it
on their arms and their legs and their necks, sometimes
while sliding sideways down a pole that I would love
to see balancing.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You would, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Sure you would, You've said, not suggesting that at Star
Gardens in North Hollywood they know how to do this.
I'm just saying that would be quite an athletic feat.
That's that's how I'm going to sell it to my wife.
You're going to bring I'm just gonna go watch the athleticism. Yes, totally,
maybe balancing on one foot, standing on their head. All
body parts are welcome to give it a twirl. Rachel
(10:46):
Emmerling tried a new worship, a new workshop that advertised
boob hooping, and.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
She told.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
She told the Washington Post quote, I got one boob
hoop revolution?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Is that a one boob? Is that one boob hoop revolution?
Or Is that a she's talking about? It's a boob
hoop revolution? Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh? I see? Is it just one boob? Is it
a monoc or is it one revolution?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
But I don't think that anyone would do one revolution
of a or does she mean like this is.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
A starter revolution?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
She only got it once around before it fell as
a poet, or maybe she got it around one of
them before.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This is an anatomical mystery. Well, maybe the Washington Post
should have a better editor. It would make that clear.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It is confusing.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
One hundred and forty dollars for a three day pass
to join this hula hoop retreat includes a campsite.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It includes workshops. I'm going to say that word again.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It includes workshops on hula hooping special activities. The Michigan Retreat,
they said, is one of the least expensive when it
comes to hula hooping, with roughly fifty five or so
people involved. It's also a very tight knit community that
participates frequently. That participants were equently refer to each other
as their Michigan Hoop family.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
There's two that are happening in September. One in Colorado
and one in Costa Rica. They're sold out, so sorry, Gary,
I wouldn't mind hula hoop retreat in Costa Rica. That
sounds lovely. Do you have tickets for about nineteen hundred dollars?
Would you have that kind of money for that? I'd
have to plan ahead. Groups also organize trips in Turkey, Balley,
(12:30):
in Australia, Bali, yeah, Bali for the hoop and in
Bali this Rachel Emmerlin says, I've never felt more myself
when I am hula hooping or with hula hooping people.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It doesn't feel like exercise. Now, that's listen. That's an
important aspect of this. They're talking about this as a
wellness lifestyle choice that people are making to.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Who to hoop, to hoop or not to hoop or
not to hoop. The problem, I believe is how you
actually hooping is a workout.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Male Clinics, Orthopedics and sports Medicine compares hula hooping
to salsa swing belly dancing. In addition to burning calories,
they said maybe up to two hundred calories for thirty
for thirty minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Thirty minutes of hoops for two hundred calories. That doesn't
seem like a lot of calories either, for the amount
of time that you're putting in, right, would you do
me favor. You have a computer in front of you,
can you search for what.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Is the longest the record for the longest time spent
hula hooping?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Okay? And this is just classic hula hooping. This is
not boob hooping. No, no, nothing out of the ordinary.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
The longest hooping record for a continuous marathon, according to
Google's AI, was set by Jenny Doane in Chicago, Illinois
in twenty nineteen one hundred hours.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That can't be right.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I don't Do you think that they lie on the internet. Yes,
I think that's one of those AI. Do you think
that phantom thing? All right, well, let's check in with WTTW. Okay,
it's official Chicago and Jenny dones that's new world record
for hula hooping for a session one hundred hours.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That seems physically impossible. That's for someone to stay awake
for one hundred hours while they're doing physical activity for
one hundred hours.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
This is PBS Chicago.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So if you're calling PBS local public media a liar.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Even the Guinness Book of World Records has it at
one hundred hours. That is truly crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Then I'd like to know some of the details, like
is she allowed bathroom breaks, can she drink water, can
she eat? Or does she have to do all of
that stuff while she's still hooping.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Well, I'll tell you there's a photo of her during
a session and her pants and legs look unsoiled. So well,
I just well, okay, could it mean I'm just maybe
it was the beginning of one hundred hours.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It was the first forty five minutes. Maybe she's wearing
a diaper.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's possible, all right. Everybody gets the cell phone emergency alerts.
They're not full proof. If we were talking about the
difference between say, amber alerts, fire evacuation alerts, earthquake early
warning alerts, we'll talk about what might help in the
event that an actual disaster is bearing down on you.
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This week on the Gary and Channon Show, we.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Are getting a developing story out of the Chicago area.
Somebody who was targeted during an Immigration Customs Enforcement traffic
stop gunned it and dragged an ICE officer with his vehicle.
The officer eventually shot and killed the guy. Another officer
was a parent also injured.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
In all that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
ICE came out with the statement you had it there
you were talking about. DHS had a statement.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, they said, this morning while carrying out an enforcement
operation and they used the verbage targeting a criminal illegal alien.
He resisted arrest, attempted to flee the scene, and dragged
the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer a significant distance. The
officer was sustained multiple injuries, though and is in stable condition.
The suspect in this situation, they say.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Was pronounced dead.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
The Assistant Secretary, Tristia McLaughlin says we're praying for the
speedy recovery of the law enforcement officer, but blamed viral
social media videos and activists encouraging illegal aliens, she says,
to resist law enforcement not only spreading misinformation, but also
undermining public safety as well as the safety of our
officers and those being apprehended. Whether or not, I'm sure
(16:52):
we'll get more information about this. I'm sure there is video,
whether it's bodycam video or even witness video. They say
is that this suspect refused to follow law enforcement commands,
drove his car at law enforcement officers, and one of
the ice officers was hit. Like I said, so the officer,
(17:13):
fearing for his own life, then allegedly, at last, according
to the statement, opened fire.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
At the target of the stop. By the way, is undocumented.
Guide apparently has a history of reckless driving. I don't
know why that was a specific if that was enough
that that's what they were targeting him for the criminal record,
this history of reckless driving, but the fact that it
was a driving incident that then led to his own death.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
So we talked.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
We were talking a little bit earlier off the air
about cell phone emergency alerts, and we've all been subjected
to them as probably the right way to put it.
Of course, back in January, when the fires were burning,
the LA County version of emergency alerts went out despite
the fact that people did not need to hear them.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
County.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Why these alerts went out when it was a mistake
that undermines whatever credibility you're supposed to have when you
are an agency that needs to use emergency alerts like
this and there is a there are questions about how
you might be able to tweak this system or an
(18:19):
emergency alert system period to make it more a believable,
be reliable and see paid attention to Yeah like that,
that's so, which instills a sense of anxiety. Yeah, and
because you don't know if it's an amber alert, a
silver alert, an earthquake, right, a fire evacuation. And even
(18:43):
as you were saying and back in January, we got
false ones that weren't even created by machines, that were
falsely pushed by people who are sitting somewhere in an
emergency alert center sending these.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Out right, So what if how could they change it?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And we were kind of I think it was it's
tongue in cheek to say it this way, but it
almost makes perfect sense to alter the tone or the
message or the sound or whatever that is the notification,
depending on what it is that you're trying to alert
the public about. If it's I jokingly said, if it's
(19:17):
an amber alert, the sound of a baby crying. That
would if I heard a baby crying right now, I'm
going to pay a whole lot more attention to.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Obviously you haven't met me. Obviously we haven't worked together
for very long. Well, i'm looking at you, I'm moving.
If you started crying, I would notice that. No, But yeah,
I think you're right. I don't know if it's like
a technological limit or if that's just I think it
just goes to the speakers of your phone. I don't
think that that's like a special feature. It's just whatever
emergency sound it is. You would think that they'd have
(19:48):
some kind of standardized or they should at least have
a standardized plan to say, here's the fire one, here's
the earthquake one, here's the amber alert, here's the silver
Now what would if a baby crying for AMB alert?
What would you do for a silver alert?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
H Clara Peller yelling where's the beef or something? I
don't know, or where's Grandma? Yeah, if she was still
a lived rest, I don't know. That's I've fallen, I've
fallen a kid. Yeah, that'd be lifeful, pretty easy, that's easy.
The life alert people might be upset by that. Yeah,
they'd have a license. They have to pay a lot
(20:22):
of money for it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I mean I think that you you know, you go
through this as we have period of time that was
really really, really scary for a week and a half
where you didn't know if the wind was going to
pick up again. And I'm talking about early January, and
you thought anytime you heard that, you better be ready
to go. Yeah, and even when you got the false ones,
that thought. I think there's one went off in the
(20:43):
middle of the night in the valley and the areas
that where I live, where it was not even close
to the hills. It was a false alert, and I thought,
I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, I remember that that It was about twelve thirty
quarter to one, if I'm not mistaken, when that one
went out. And that was that the night of or
the night after. Yeah, the fires, so everybody's still on
high alert. There's still very active scenes. People are still
you know, rushing to get out of the way of
this fires. And that woke me up to the point
with enough adrenaline, I wasn't going back to sleep right.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I know there were people who had much worse than
I did. But still when Gary doesn't get his beauty
rest right, you still see it nine months later, you
can still see it into My first thing I thought
when I saw you is that that guy didn't sleep
well January eighth. But the that is that that kind
of we're we humans are wired to in the event
(21:36):
of an emergency, ramp up our adrenaline. It's our fight
or flight response. We're used to it. So when something
like this triggers it and there is no actual situation
that requires fight or flight, you start ignoring it.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And I think that's the biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Have you ever live anywhere where there were tornadoes or
they had tornado warning signs sirens? Now, so in the
Midwest day every Friday at eleven am, they test the
tornado warning system, which are big sirens on the top
of a tower. They blanket the Midwest. Yeah, and you
hear it, and you know that it's eleven o'clock in
the morning, so you're used to it, and even testing
it or whatever, you don't get desensitized to it. But
(22:14):
when you hear it and it's not eleven am. You
can hear it anywhere. You don't need a phone. You
know that that you know what that means and what
that sound is, and that you should it's like an
air raid siren.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well, that's a good point that there used to be
air raid sirens everywhere in California as well. My I've
talked many times about living or having relatives that live
up in the passer Erobos Sa Miguel area, Sam Miguel's
tiny little town, you know, population eleven hundred or whatever
it is, and on their library in the middle of town,
they used to have one of those air raid sirens.
(22:46):
And your point, it would go off every day at noon.
In the event that that thing went off and it
wasn't noon, I'm at the dead town. You're getting out
of there. I mean, you have no idea what's coming
or are the world's Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean I think that one of the I mean,
this is a question that was posed, but why don't
we have those like we have tornado sirens in the Midwest.
They say the answer is complicated because they blamed the
fact that it's hard to hear them inside double pain
or triple pane windows.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't know about that. I could still hear them.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Topography blocks the cell service that can also block the
sound of sirens. They are expensive and require ongoing maintenance,
but also that they can be confusing without proper public education.
And they cited the example of the fires in Hawaii
and Maui the hiness siren system. People didn't know what
(23:35):
that sound was. They thought it was maybe for a tsunami.
The man, now they're hackable, that's right. Someone, could you know,
set them off when they don't need.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Can we not just have both?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Can we not have an alert on the phone that
says what it is that makes a sound that makes
you look at it. And also if you've got sirens
and something is terrible and.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Then you look at your phone and ask, what's that
siren and it says, Hey, that's the fire, that's the earthquake,
that's the tornado, whatever it is. I'm sorry I didn't
understand that, right. I did something in July. I'm still
feeling the effects of today, and I'll explain when week.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Twelve o'clock hours still to come, all of our trending stories,
our gas fantasy for play what you learned this week
on The Gary and Shannon Show, and then we round
it all out for this long week with the nine
News Nugget.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You need to know. It's an action packed hour in
eight minutes. You better buckle up. You might want to
do some stretching beforehand coming hour.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, I've never done.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It before, so I should start. You've never stretched, ever stretched? Okay,
this is a good time. Yeah, it's a good bit.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
One of those things where you're a kid and you
think like, men don't stretch, and then it's a stupid
thing that gets stuck in your head forever. That's for girls,
that's for gymnasts, for lady boys.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So I did something in July when I was at
an airbo I took a VAK and I'm sitting at
the airport and one of the things I literally did
while waiting to board the plane was I went through
my phone figured out how to turn off notifications for
a series of different apps, and I went through your
(25:16):
grinder app by app. Grinder was one of them. You
had to shut that down, pinging all day all Night,
ABC News, BBC News, Let's see, NBC News, CNN, Fox News,
CNBC News. I turned them all Instagram, I turned them all,
(25:40):
put on Kramer, all of it. My God, and it
was amazing because the first couple of days I started thinking,
my phone is not working because I'm not getting any alerts,
knowing full well I was the one who a few
moments ago turned them all off, but for some reason
it was so I mean, after while, I realized that
(26:01):
there was silence once again, that there were moments where
I could put my phone down over there and not
jump up every time it binged or pinged or blinked
or whatever it did blinked, And there's a The news
avoidance is now at a record high. I mean, this
is a perfect week to use as an example of
(26:21):
why people want to avoid the news too many times.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's just awful.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's bad, and unfortunately kind of in the business we're
in that is a lot of times what drives viewership
or listenership is the worst news.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
The biggest struggle personally in my very easy life is
exactly what you're talking about, the sense of I need
to know because I will do a good job if
I have this information in my head, and more importantly,
if I act on it, if I make a video
about this, if I make a report about this. We
(26:59):
did thisorry about Philly's Karen on Monday. God, that was
just Monday of this week. The woman who was accused
of it was like three weeks now. It's crazy and
it went bonkers.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
But am I like making the world a better place
by weighing in by adding to this conversation?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Probably not? And I think that that goes for people
as well who are listening to this. It's that you
need to have a balance, and the Internet doesn't care
because it is so different even than in the days
of cable news ten years ago, fifteen years ago, where okay,
you watch this thing, it's curated, it's over, it goes
to a new story. The way that the Internet is
(27:38):
now is that it figures out exactly what is your
emotional tipping point, right, and it feeds to it over
and over and over and over again, and it exploits it.
It's that it's Pavlov's dog, right, every time the bell
rings he gets a treat. And now it's just the
constant I mean literally, it's that being that the ding,
the ding, the ting ting.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And that's why, I mean, we were talking about this earlier.
It's hard to put that phone down. They know what's
going on in your head and your little lizard brains
like I want more of that, I want more of that,
I want more of that, and it just repeats itself.
And I know there's a lot of thoughts about this,
and I don't mean it as a as an assessment
on him as a person, but once Elon Musk took
(28:18):
over Twitter, I know personally, once it became X, the
level of violence that I saw went way up. The
level of I mean, it was like normal to just
open it up and look at a snuff film.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That was just what I was seeing all the time.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And I feel like the collective effect of that, not
for me, for everybody, is just unmeasurable at this point.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, but you can't think that it's not gonna make
people weird.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So then how do we do we break this cycle?
Is there an event that breaks this cycle? Do we
knock all the cell towers in the in the nation
off off the grid?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I mean, you and I we're doing this tonight. Well,
I don't know about that. We're going off busy tonight.
Oh your tonight is too more to tonight. So I
think that there's I'm curious what happened with you after
you did that? Did you then say, okay, I'm going
to keep these off and you've you've kept them off?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was it was an un uh, it was an
unintended consequence that I just never turned them back on.
In fact, producer Michelle down the Hall was asking me
today if I got a notification about the something that
she had sent out, and I realize I haven't had
those kind of notifications in three months, and I'm not.
I don't feel worse for it. I don't feel like
I'm behind the times. I don't find there's so many
(29:29):
other ways to get that news. I don't need it
mainlined into my head.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
And the biggest thing is that you're in control now, right,
which is the number one I think problem going forward
is that this I'm holding up a phone, this is
television on the radio.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Phone has the potential of.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Being so helpful and cool and awesome, and we can
connect things and learn stuff and become experts on all
kinds of things that we never would have had access
to in the past. But having the ability to self select,
I think, is where I want to be. Yeah, I
want to be making the choices for myself. It's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
All right, we'll do our trending stories, Gas Fantasy for Play,
and all the other good stuff coming up in our
big twelve o'clock hour right after this. You've been listening
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