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September 11, 2025 27 mins
#SWAMPWATCH – Democratic National Committee headquarters on lockdown over 'incident' after Charlie Kirk shooting. Charlie Kirk assassin most likely ‘internet shooter’ who took advantage of low-security spot: elite sharpshooter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Scientists have discovered We're going to get into strange science
late in the show today, by the way, but a
little tidbit now. Scientists have discovered that octopuses do not
have a dominant arm like right handed left handed, like
you and I might, but they often use their front arms.

(00:31):
I didn't know there was such a thing for specific
task publish. Study published today in Scientific Reports analyzed videos
of octopus movements in the wild. The three species of
octopuses studied use their front arms about sixty percent of
the time. The back arms are more often used for movement.

(00:52):
Study is the first large analysis of octopus limb action
in the wild. I would have that would have been
a fun study. Octopus limbs are complex. Each arm contains
one hundred to two hundred censory suckers that will act
like your nose, your lips, and your tongue all up
and down the arm.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
They are so weird, it's time for swamp watch.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a
liar and when I'm not kissing babies.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm stealing that lollipops here.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
We got.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
The real problem is that our leaders are done.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
The other side never quits.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
So what I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So now you.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Train the squat, I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been. You know, Americans have
always been gone at present, but they're not stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Who haven't people voted for you were not swamp watch,
They're all counternoing.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
All right, we'll start with the developing story out of
DC right now that according to a spokesperson for the
Democratic National Committee this afternoon, this is the quote. This afternoon,
there was a bomb threat to the Democrat National Committee
headquarters that was determined to not be credible by the
US Capitol Police, but out of an abundance of caution,

(02:08):
Capitol police conduct an interior sweep of the building. DNC
chair Ken Martin has said, political violence in every forum
has no place in our country. We are grateful to
the US Capitol Police and the DNC building security. Excuse
me for responding quickly and professionally.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Again, there have been a series.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
There has been a series of reports of law enforcement,
a large law enforcement present around the Democratic National Committee
headquarters there in Washington, d C. And a spokesperson again
for the DNC says there was a bomb threat, but
it was determined to not be credible by the US
Capitol Police. But again, out of an abundance of caution,

(02:49):
they decided that they would go in and sweep just
in case. I'm not going to go back through a
lot of the Charlie Kirk story that we did in
the first hour, only because it can be pretty trying.
We do expect there to be an update, by the way,
on the assassination coming up sometime later this hour, maybe

(03:13):
within the next thirty minutes or so. When that happens,
we'll bring that to you live. The only real update
that came out and say the last two hours is
that the FBI office in Salt Lake City has posted
photos of what they say is the person of interest.
You can actually check them out on the KFI social
media pages. It's a grainy photo shares someone wearing a long,

(03:36):
black long sleeved shirt, dark pants, sunglasses, and then a
hat hat has a little white logo on it. It's
too grainy of a picture to tell exactly what it is.
The shirt also has an image on the front of
it on the chest, but other than sort of a
rough outline of an American flag, it's hard to see
what is there. The only information, by the way identifying

(03:57):
information that the law enforcement investigators gave this morning was
that the guy appeared to be college age, and said
specifically that he fit in with others who were on
campus at the time, so that led them to believe
that this guy was.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Of college age. Now.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
President Trump talked about Charlie Kirk last night in an
unusual rare Oval office address.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who
attacked him was attacking our whole country. An assassin tried
to silence him with a bullet, but he failed, because
together we will ensure that his voice, his message, and
his legacy will live on for countless generations to come. Today,

(04:48):
because of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger
and grander than ever before.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh and just now, in the twenty seconds or so
that that SoundBite was playing, officials out of Utah say
they have postponed the news conference because there are rapid
developments in the case, we don't know exactly what that means.
We can assume that two hours after they put out
this image across social media that they were probably getting

(05:15):
leads about the guy's true identity and may have a
lead on location or something like that. So again, at
this point, they were supposed to be doing an update
on the shooting of Charlie Kirk, but they are saying
now they're going to postpone that news conference that was
supposed to start about eleven forty five hour time. So again,
if we do get more information, if we do get developments,

(05:36):
we'll let you know. There was an FBI special agent who,
based on what we know about what happened yesterday, says
this may be the this may be the work of
what he referred to as an internet shooter. We'll explain
what that means and let him tell you the story
as well when we come back.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Of course, the twentieth commemoration twenty fourth, sorry, twenty fourth
commemoration of the September eleventh attacks, and the idea yesterday
actually before well right about now, last year was to
have an idea of kind of where everybody was on
September eleventh. I know that it's not a fun day
for anybody, and a lot of people listening probably lost

(06:27):
people on that day. But that of cour of course,
was all pushed aside because of the shooting of Charlie
Kirk on the campus that college campus there in Utah,
and a couple of things in terms of the investigation.
There was a news conference that was supposed to start
at eleven forty five. Just within the last few minutes

(06:51):
they announced that they're pushing back that news conference because
of what they referred to as rapid developments in the case.
At about nine o'clock our time, they put out a
pictures of a person of the interest in the case.
Earlier in the day, they had told us that they
found an older model hunting rifle thirty caliber high powered
bolt action rifle in a wooded area near where the

(07:14):
shooting took place, that there was one spent shell casing
still in the rifle and then three unfired bullets that
were in the magazine, and that they were all they
had words written on them that may have been promoting
transgenderism and anti fascism, etc. So if we get more details,

(07:38):
we'll bring those to you. And again, they were going
to hold a news conference this hour. They've pushed that back,
they said, because of what they referred to as rapid developments.
A couple of different elite sharpshooters, snipers who believe that
whatever happened yesterday was somebody who is, as they refer

(07:59):
to it, a internet shooter and not a professional. Robin Drake,
by the way, is a former FBI special agent, and
use the term professional. He said, I don't think this
was a professional thing, and in fact, i'll play for
you the parts of two different soundbites of him from

(08:19):
the same interview.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
At the early onset, people were thinking this was a
professional hit, and professional had a different connotation to me.
I thought it was a skilled shot. But professionals don't
do this, and so luckily he's made a lot of missteps,
and as indicated in his press conference, he left a
data trail of evidence that they're able to zero in
on him pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think, okay, So then when asked specifically, okay, you
said not a professional, what did you.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Mean by that?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
If this individual was actually truly trying to just kill
Charlie Kirk. This is not the way to do it
because this is in a public venue, leaving a lot
of footprints on the ground, leaving a weapon in the woods,
not having a clear escape plan, which people thought he did.
And so that's not a professional level like at the
higher levels that you were kind of thinking like in

(09:05):
the movies. This is a skilled shot, but an unskilled
individual at being an assassin.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Skilled shot, unskilled individual think about his belief I think
that was the same person who earlier in the day
had said that he believes that there was a scope
attached to the rifle, because that four hundred or so
foot shot is possible, like he said, with iron sights,
you know, without a scope, or with even without a

(09:30):
high power scope, but that in this case it's likely
that this person did have a high powered scope on
that rifle. They didn't mention that when they described it
having been found earlier today. But there's another guy. US
Army sergeant Nicholas Randstad and said that the security was light.
There's very little crime on this campus, so he says

(09:55):
the threat was relatively low. At least that was the
attitude of law enforcement and security teams there working the
event and said that's a buffet for someone who wants
to kill somebody. Ranstad said, shooting down is easy. He
described this area where the actual shooting took place the

(10:16):
way I was trying to describe it yesterday was it's
sort of a natural amphitheater in that the outside areas
are at a higher elevation than where the stage was
down below. Then you add to that that the shooter
appears to have been on top of a roof behind
the amphitheater at an even higher angle and with zero obstruction,

(10:40):
no trees, beautiful day, no wind, anything like that. That
distance of a shot at about one hundred and fifty
yards is not difficult at all. And again the term
of you know, an unskilled shooter.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Thinking like in the movies, this is a skilled shot,
but an unskilled individual being an.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Assassin skilled shot, unskilled individual. They again that Army Sergeant
Nicholas Branstad said, when you have an event like that,
you look at security and if you push two hundred
and fifty three hundred yards, it can still be an
easy shot even for an unskilled shooter. Not to mention

(11:21):
out in the open, it's not like in the city
where you've got a billet flying past buildings and the
wind effect on each of them. So the expectation is
that this was an internet shooter who may not have
had actual sniper training or anything like that. Again, a
developing story out of DC is law enforcement. We're surrounding

(11:41):
the Democratic National Committee headquarters. A spokesperson for the DNC
said there was in fact a bomb threat at DNC headquarters,
but that US Capitol Police determined it was not credible.
They just did an investigation out of an abundance of
caution to make sure that nothing was going on, that
there were no suspicious devices or anything like that. All right,

(12:05):
lighten it up just a little bit. How about this.
You ever thought about hiring an executive assistant? Do you
need an executive assistant? Sure, there's plenty of moms out
there probably say that they would like to have an
executive assistant. That apparently is the new boss move, by
the way, to hire an executive assistant without actually being

(12:27):
an executive regular folks have decided to not let titles
get in the way of having executive assistant. But then
you got to figure out, what are you asking an
executive assistant to do?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
That you couldn't really do yourself.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean, it would be nice to have somebody to
do all of these things for you, but is it
really exactly what it is that you need to get
your life right back on track. We'll talk about that also.
This guy who jumped overboard from the Royal Caribbean Cruise
Line ship, he had a pretty good reas to do so,
and it wasn't because of his mother in law. We'll

(13:04):
talk about that when we come back. I just want
to remind her because I've done this periodically through the show,
because I know people are coming in and out. Shannon's
out today and tomorrow, but she'll be back on Monday.
She was taking care of her mom and her mom
had surgery yesterday, but Shannon texted to say that surgery
went great, so that is good news for her and
her mom.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Diane, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
A few moments ago, officials postponed the news conference they
were supposed to be giving in a few minutes from now,
supposed to update us on the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
The FBI had earlier today released a couple of photos
of a person of interest. We put them up on
our socials on the KFI social pages, so you can
go check that out. We don't know if it's connected

(13:52):
to that, but they said there are rapid developments in
this case, and that's why they postponed this news conference
out of Utah. If it does happen in the show,
we'll obviously bring it to you live and anything else
that we can tell you. I was mentioning the potential
for that rifle that was used in that shooting yesterday
to hold to have a scope on it, and in fact,

(14:13):
the picture that I saw during the break, it does
have a scope on. I don't know the exact power
of it, what kind of magnification that thing has got,
but as the sniper said, that army sniper one hundred
and fifty yard shot is really you don't have to
be that skilled in order to have a good shot
when it comes to that line of sight, lack of

(14:34):
wind and all of that. A couple of stories that
were following other stories. The Supreme Court has rejected a
request by the South Carolina officials. They were trying to
bar a transgender boy from using the boy's restrooms at
his school. The court denied the emergency request filed by
the state. The brief order did stress the decision is
not a ruling on the merits of the legal issues

(14:54):
that were presented in the litigation, but they decided they
would not be taking up the case and that it
stays with that lower court's decision. Prices that consumers pay
for a bunch of goods and services moved higher than
expected last month. Jobless claims accelerated. Both of these are
important and indicators that the feder Reserve is going to
be looking at before their meeting next week and deciding
whether or not to lower interest rates. UK Prime Minister

(15:17):
car Starmer has fired his ambassador to the United States
because Peter Mandelssh that was his name, has links to
Jeffrey Epstein. In a statement in the House of Commons today,
the Foreign Office Minister said the decision came in the
wake of publication this week of emails that Peter Mandelsson
had sent to Jeffrey Epstein in the two thousands, which

(15:40):
he gave his support to Epstein even when he was
facing jail for different sex offenses. The Foreign Office Minister
said the emails showed that the depth and extent of
that relationship was materially different from what had been known
when he was appointed to be the ambassador yes last year.
Sports Wise, Washington Commander's Grebay Packers tonight for Thursday night football.

(16:04):
Angels are in Seattle to take on the Mariners later
on tonight. Dodgers actually have the day off today, but
they'll be moving up to San Francisco to take on
the Giants starting tomorrow for the weekend series. So the
executive assistant I think in La executive assistants are pretty ubiquitous.
There's a lot of people, especially the ones over the
hill there in Hollywood are that'd like to have executive assistants.

(16:26):
If nothing else, it makes them feel important and granted,
there are some probable high level executives that do need
executive assistants to help keep track of their lives.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Do they need multiple? Maybe some of them.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Callum Borchers wrote in the Wall Street Journal. Some regular
folks like me have decided not to let titles or
lack thereof stop them from having executive assistants. They've hired
their own help to manage professional and personal affairs. Some
people spend anywhere from ten dollars a month for an
AI assistant. We've talked to people about that in terms

(16:59):
of keep schedules, answering emails and things to several thousand
dollars a month for a part time person to be
your executive assistant. And the people who are hiring or
in this case buying, hiring executive assistants, they do so,
they say, because it can pay for itself increased productivity,
increased earnings, a testament to the modern habit of overscheduling

(17:23):
ourselves and our children. And they also said it makes
them it's worth every penny because it makes them feel
like a boss. Americans' actual bosses are learning to check
their own inboxes because they have. Having an assistant is
now a much more unusual thing than it used to be.

(17:48):
The ranks of executive assistants plummeted from about one point
four million just twenty years ago to under a half
a million two years ago. That leaves a lot of people,
they said, without that status symbol of having an assistant.
Even though companies are cutting administrative roles, they're telling all
but the most senior executives, you're going to have to

(18:09):
fend for yourself. You're gonna have to ask rich from it,
how do I get to my inbox? And where did
that email go? All familiar with the admins that are
cost conscious businesses assigned to support managers for say twenty
hours a week, and there are a bunch of people
who can outsource that executive assistant task to somebody who

(18:30):
isn't literally right there or right outside your door. They
could be in a different state, they could be completely
different time zoned, halfway around the world actually, and help
you coordinate some of your day to day stuff based
simply on your email inbox. For example, Jess Little as
director of operations at Coastal Life Real Estate in Massachusetts

(18:53):
and said, the workplace is structured so that you have
to hit a certain level within the organization to get help.
But the assistant doesn't have to be a novelty. Now,
she again director of operations, she doesn't have an executive assistant,
so she got her own.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
She uses a service called Sundays.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
It targets parents, working parents with a plan that costs
about fifty or sixty bucks an hour to actually have
somebody help you out. And this is a human assistant,
not an AI assistant. And she said she started at
about ten hours a month and found the help so
valuable she was willing to spend the money and get
it for twenty five hours a month. She and her

(19:36):
executive assistant kick off each week with a video call.
They go over with the schedule's coming up different events,
the tasks. They book a bounce house for one of
the kid's birthday parties. She delegates grocery shopping to her assistant,
as well as phone calls to places like the pediatrician's office.
Now that kind of stuff is the part I don't
quite get. There's outsourcing. Some of that personal family stuff

(20:01):
has always been uncomfortable and I don't and listen, I'm
not saying I'm the one who did it all the
time or does it all the time, but that to
me almost takes away from the necessity of an executive assistant.
The executive assistant, I feel like, should be the one
who helps you schedule your day at work and if
you have to call the pediatrician or you're doing something

(20:22):
to ask for permission for your kids to leave class
or whatever, that you, as the parent do that, not
your executive assistant, but others who have hired these executive
assistants reserve to help for side hustles for personal things. Unfortunately,
like I said, Stacy Champagne, for example, she is a
cybersecurity consulting federal contractor. Clearly they don't want her outsourcing

(20:46):
some tasks to an executive assistant because there's probably secrecy
issues involved. So she's building this development service call for
women called Hacker in Heels and pays for fifteen hours
of an executive assistant each month. And her executive assistant
sends emails to speakers, books, flights, and hotels, also orders

(21:07):
flowers for champagne sister in.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Law who just had a baby. Again, one of those
personal things.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
It probably doesn't need to be done by an executive assistant.
But listen, if you've got the money and you think
it's working for you, go for it. More power to you,
all right. A fun story. I'm not a fan of cruises,
and I feel for this guy, Jay Gonzales Diaz. He
decided he was going to jump ship right in the middle,
right in the middle of the cruise.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
We'll tell you why when we come back.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Andy Reestmeyer is actually going to join us next hour
you here in Sundays now on KFI, and you see
him on KTLA. He's going to come in and sit
in that chair right over there with us tomorrow for
what we hope will be a little bit more of
a relaxing Friday. A couple of stories that we are following.
We are standing by for an update on the investigation
into the shooting of Charlie Kirk. The FBI shared photos

(22:04):
of a person of interest today and had originally scheduled
an eleven forty five news conference for an update, but
just a short time before that was supposed to take place,
they said they were going to postpone the news conference
because of rapid developments in the case. So it sounds
like they may have a strong scent in terms of

(22:25):
who this guy was, this person of interest that they
found on different video cameras through the campus there in
Utah where Charlie Kirk was shot. Another story out of Florida,
speaking of political violence, a man charged with trying to
assassinate Donald Trump when he was running for president last year,
delivered the opening statement at his own trial today. Ryan

(22:48):
Ruth was arrested after a secret Service agenc that he
spotted him holding a rifle near a golf course where
Trump was playing at his West Palm Beach club in
September of last year. Besides being charge with attempting to
assassinate a candidate, he's facing four other counts attempting to
assault a federal officer, including that, and if convicted, of course,
he could face a possible life since he's pleaded not guilty,

(23:10):
and again he was dissatisfied with his defense attorneys, and
the district court judge did give him permission.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
To represent himself, so he did so during jury.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Selection which started this week, but ran into trouble because
Judge Cannon started having problems with his opening statement. He
addressed the jury today start with a series of vague
statements and questions with very little direct relevance to what
he's talking about, and he asked, for example, he asked,
why are we here? Is it not to care for
one another and to hold one another? I mean, this

(23:44):
guy's clearly not playing with a full deck. Judge Cannon said,
what I heard clearly goes beyond any relevant evidence in
this case, and she ended that opening statement clearly before
he was done. The prosecutor then got up and basically
told jurors that this guy wanted to ensure that voters
would not be able to elect Trump as president. The

(24:06):
prosecutor said the defendant decided to take the choice away
from the American voters, and that Ruth is charged with
carefully crafted, deadly serious crimes.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
All right, after.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Getting into a little bit of debt, Jay Gonzales Diaz
jumped off of the Rhapsody of the Seas, brought to
you by Royal Caribbean about nine in the morning on
September seventh, as guests were disembarking in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
He was rescued by a couple of people.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
One of them was able to pull him onto a
jet ski and he was brought to shore before customs
and Port of Protection officers took him into custody about
nine to forty five in the morning. This is again
when the cruise ship had docked at Puerto Rico, the
Rhapsody of the Seas. Think of this as twelve decks
twelve floors, if you will, but it's not clear where

(24:56):
he was when he jumped. He's been trying, he's been
charged with, to avoid monetary reporting requirements because again at
the time that he jumped into the water. He had
sixteen thousand, seven hundred ten dollars and twenty four cents
in debt with the cruise line. Most of it was

(25:18):
casino and gaming expenses. He boarded the Rhapsody of the
Seas in Puerto Rico August thirty first, so it took
him just a week a week to get himself sixteen thousand,
seven hundred and ten dollars and twenty four cents into debt. Now,
when he was found, he was found with some cash
in a backpack, almost fifteen thousand in cash, so he

(25:40):
could have paid that debt. He had a US passport,
he had a Social Security card, he had a Puerto
Rican birth certificate, he had a Tennessee State ID and
a Royal Caribbean boarding card. Now the problem is the
IDs that he was carrying had different names on them.
You can't do that, mister Gonzales Diez, spokesperson for Royal Caribbean,

(26:01):
and said the cruise lines cooperating with the federal authorities
and declined to comment because they have the ongoing investigation
into what this guy was actually accused of.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I set up.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I mentioned this earlier when a producer Keiana was in
the room and Michael Monks, I'm not a fan of cruises.
The one cruise that I've been on turned out to
be not the greatest cruise in the world. It's the
one that goes from la to San Diego to Cabo
and then Catalina or Dansinada, wherever it goes, just that
little short one. And we went when there were twenty

(26:33):
twenty five people in the family or friends or cousins
that all went, oh, let me throw this in there.
Our son was eighteen months old when we took him
on a cruise ship, so no privacy. One of us
is always watching the kid, got to make sure he
doesn't drown in the pool.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
All.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
It was not relaxing by any means. And even though
it was July when we went on this cruise, it
was cold. It was so cold on the deck of
that ship when it was underway, it was freezing. I'm
not going to do no more cruises, at least not
at any time soon. When we come back. We have
some strange science stories we're going to get to a

(27:11):
little bit later, and also a very strange way that
the Chinese may be spying on us, like on our roadways,
they're spying on us. We'll explain what people are concerned
about when it comes to how Chinese the Chinese government
is spying on us. All Gary and Shannon will continue

(27:32):
in just a moment. Deborah Mark is going to have
an update right after this. You've been listening to The
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