October 17, 2025 • 30 mins
Gary and Shannon kick off the show celebrating the Dodgers’ latest win and Mookie Betts’ jaw-dropping play, with AM 570’s Tim Cates joining to break down the team’s path to the World Series. Then, the duo dives into the indictment of President Trump’s former National Security Advisor and Trump’s scheduled meetings with Ukraine’s Zelensky and Russia’s Putin. And to wrap things up, Shannon has thoughts about The Golden Bachelor, and they’re not golden.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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on demand on the iHeartRadio app. That was an incredible play.
Like I'm still thinking about the athleticism needed for that play.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jeter esque play.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I would say, Oh my go Jee, Screw Jeter. Screw Jeter.
Derek Jeter is the greatest short stop to play. Zy,
Mookie Bets is really good. Oh Derek Jeter.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, sounds like Chris Collinsworth and Patrick Mahomes over there.
Gary and Shannon k I Am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. And Gary, I heard Tim Kates
talking about this this morning with David Vassay on Kate's
and Sacks in the morning And uh, you guys were
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talking to Vassa Katsy about how Mookie Betts started his
training the earliest he ever has in the off season
November first or whatever. He starts going to different feel
around the valley here to play shortstop.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, he was working with some of the Dodgers infield
coaches and guys who are around the clubhouse in the offseason.
They were out of Sierra Canyon High School. They were
out like three different high schools here in the valley
wherever they can get field time, and they were just
working on ground balls, working on different scenarios, different plays
for you know, glove hand backhands, different things every single
day because he wanted to get better. I think part
of is he heard the comments last year you can't
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do this. You know, nobody over the age of thirty
makes a transition from outfield to shortstop in the major leagues.
And I think he took it personal last offseason to
get to be the best shortstop he could be and
to try to win a Gold Glove, which he's now
a finalist to do. And by the way, you reference
Derek Jeter. Jeter was on Fox last night on the
postgame show. I'm not sure if he saw this, but
they showed a comparison of his throw that he did
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multiple times that batcanp jump stop throw to first base ye,
and Jeter says, it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I didn't want to hop it. I threw it on
a straight line. What they show.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But is that is what I want to give Jeeter
no more credit because he's that guy.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
But tim the amount of arm strength it takes, and
I'm not taking anything away from from Mookie Butts because
that was an incredibly athletic play, period, But the amount
of arm strength it takes to get that ball. Your
body's going away from first base when you make that throw,
you've jumped in the air.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't think people.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I don't think people can wrap for their head around
how strong those guys are.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
When they do that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
No, he threw it from the lip of the grass,
so when he was in air, he was over the
grass in shallow love Field throwing back over the first base.
I mean, I haven't seen a play like that since
I don't know the adult fantasy camp in Scottsdale for
the Giants earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The only difference was I was playing third base. I
was in foul territory, okay, and I didn't want to
hop it either. Of course he hopped it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Would he be the first player to get a Golden
Glove at outfield and infield?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
No, I think, I say, actually was asked us this morning,
what did he say, Darren Erstad, I think did it
as a first basement with the Angels, and then he
played outfield for the Angels as well. Until that's cool,
So I think Darren Erstadt has done a little so
cal connection doesn't happen very often though.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
All right, so Dodger fans should be feeling good going
into this one. My husband has like a cocktail party
at his boss's office this evening during the game. I'm like, oh, man,
that's right. That's a tough one right now. You're not
going I am, And I mean I said to him
(03:34):
this morning jokingly but not. I said, well, at least
we can get it on the phone. And he just
looked at me like, you're not going to be the
person who's on their phone watching the game. And I
looked back at him without saying words, absolutely, I am.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Wait a second, So.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Not only can you not watch or listen to the game,
but you have to go to this and not know
what's happened at all.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You got to have it on the TV, right right?
What kind of party is this is? This is a
Dodger game. You got to have it on the TV.
It's got to be on the TV. Yeah, I mean,
this is a closeout game.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You've got show heyo Tani the unicorn on the mound
in game four tonight against the Brewers team that you're
stepping on their throat. You can't let them up. They're
hitting like under one hundred as a team in this postseason.
They had the most wins in baseball during the regular season.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They're looking at this.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
There's a picture of Christian Yelich on MLB dot Com
sitting in the Brewers dugout yesterday looking up towards the
right field JumboTron, and in his face you can just
see it, like, what is happening?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, what is happening in this series?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
What are The Dodgers are too good?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They had to know going into it that this was
going to be a siss offician task for them to
beat this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
As soon as you get into a fight, you think
you can win a fight, Right then you get into
the fight. All of a sudden, you got your backup,
instant wall. You're getting just blow after blow. You're like,
when is this going to stop?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah? Well the pitching.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
The pitching has come alive, even even though the bats
have been mediocre. You know, I said yesterday after the game,
I almost said I feel I'm worried about sho hey Atani,
But then I'm like he had a triple, Like, in
what other world are you worried about somebody in the
light who only hit a triple.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and then he thankfully Mookie Bets was able to
drive him in. But I credit Steve Sacks for that
triple yes day, I do too. And here's a fun fact.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Steve Sacks Gary threw out the first pitch last night
after coming on our show. Now, I shook Steve Sax's
hand yesterday morning. He goes and throws out the first
pitch and then he shakes show hey at Tani's hand.
So do you see this level basically shook seven hundred
million dollars in land.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It is I I mean, I'm drunk on power. Is
it overwhelming? It is over I feel like Thanos Yeah
with my hand. Stop with the Thanos references.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's the second time in fewer than six days, and
you're starting to worry me.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh well, listen when you have this kind of power,
I guess you.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Know what's kind of cool is Steve was telling the
story off air beforehand. I'm like, wow, did Otani really
say hi to him? And he showed me a picture
that they took on the field together. Not only did
showy Otani after the national anthem and the American flag
me on the field and all the Pockham stams to
fly over and everything. He came over to Mikesosha and
Steve and shook both their hands in respect and honoring
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a former Dodger because he gets it and understands the
players before him. If you can't love the guy anymore,
I mean everybody loves him.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The respect he has for the game and for players
and for man like all of it. It's just if
you love baseball, you must love Shoey A Tani no
matter who you.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I love the fact that when he goes up to play,
he tips the cap to the visiting mass. Yes, he
makes sure he makes eye contact with the catcher like, hey,
how you doing about to go to work? Okay, and
then looks at the umpire like let's do this.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's the coyote and roadrunner when they punch in the
clock before they start going after each other. Very similar,
very soon, very similar. Five thirty three is the first
pitch today at Dodger Stadium. Show Heyo Tani, as we've
been saying, will be the pitcher, will be the starting pitcher,
and who knows, maybe he breaks out of I mean
like Shannon said, a triple is not a slumpbuster necessarily,
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But what are we worried about that?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But it's not really a slump when you go out
there and hit a triple for most people exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean when your team is eight and one in
the postseason.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And to put this into context with the starting pitching
has done in each of the last four games, the
Dodger pitching staff has a allowed one or zero runs,
has allowed fewer than five hits, has allowed fewer than
five walks, has struck out seven plus batters in each
of those outings. No other team in baseball modern era
has done that in four straight games at any point,
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regular season or postseason. And if you're the Milwaukee Brewers,
you're like, Okay, we're back into this series. Oh great show,
Hey Otani, now on the mountain. I mean, Gary, I
think about baseball right now, we're how deluded it is.
And the pitching is that it's probably as lowest as
far as overall starting pitching across baseball to have four
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four aces in your back pocket healthy and we're not
even talking about a Hall of Famer and Clayton Kershaw,
who you can still go to in the bullpit. You
got four dudes that are in this rotation. There's no
other team in baseball that comes close. Well, and halfway
through the season, no one was sure that they were
going to have that.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Although you know when shoe Hey Otani was going to
come back and he was going to start pitching, and
but I would say, you know, right before the All
Star break, there were still plenty of questions about whether
or not those four guys were going to be able
to put it together. And listen, as we've said before,
regardless of the sport, the timing is everything. You can
have an awful August, you can have a horrible September,
(08:27):
but October first rolls around, and if you get guys
off the injured list, if you get pictures that come
back into it, you get somebody like a Key k
Hernandez who hits what three seventy or something ridiculous like that.
You put all the pieces together at the right time,
you could do anything. Yeah, I look at this lineup
is unbelievable. They haven't even scratched the surface with Otani.
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Betts has been okay, Freddie Freeman's been up and down.
I mean, you're relying on Tommy Edmond who was nowhere
to in the regular season he was battling an ankle injury.
He's your ringing NLCS MVP. He's starting to get hot.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And and you still got guys with the chip on
their shoulder, like Mookie Betts, Who's they all said he
can't do it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He's like watch me. I mean, they've got everything.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I think the biggest thing we should all be anticipating
tonight is not only a taany pitching, a celebration and
a back to back trip to the World Series, but
post game on an FHI seven E LA Sports, what
kind of nugget are we going to get from Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Last time out?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
We got the whole I don't hardly want to wear pants, Dave,
and they've turned it into a T shirt that the
players are all wearing during the workouts on Wednesday at
Dodger Stadium. And before that you have Blake trying in
a Dodger closer spraining David Vassa with a champagne bottle
like it's a fire hose.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You want your exclusive nowadays.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I would like to say that David Vassa is
much like Humpy the Salmon up in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh good point, exactly, Humpy, all right on, Tim Kates,
we do the best.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You guys are my favorite show. Caff Oh thank you.
I want more Gary Shannon. Oh you can catch the
Weekend podcast. Already listened to it. Okay, coming up next,
we yes up up next.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think maybe this is a record for us, our
first former guest that's been indicted on federal charges.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I can't wait. I love that. We know somebody inside
you know it's going to serve some real time.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Not really, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Quick. Not correction or retraction. Maybe an addition.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
We were talking with Tim Kates just a second ago
about whoever has won two Gold Gloves at different positions.
He mentioned Darren Erstadt as outfielder and a first baseman.
Placido Polanco won two gold gloves, one at second, one
at third, and then DJ Lemayhew won a gold Glove
at second base and also as a as a utility player.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So apparently three.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I was just one of writers who had won at
outfield and infields.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh then yeah, then he then he was right there. Well,
I guess you could say lem Mayhew because he had
play just a duck fart worth of outfield at one point.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So, duck fart.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You're at your parents house right now? I'm like, do
you did things come back to you in your parents house?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Things like duck fart? Is that what I'm said?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Saying? It is?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It is very funny. It's not funny at all. I mean,
this is this is the this house, this is where
both of my parents passed. I'm not in that room
right now because that would be even more weird. But
there's a there's a lot of weird memories and all
that stuff that kind of comes back. Yeah, but it's beautiful.
It's a beautiful sunrise this morning. My wife went for
(11:42):
a walk. The dog's hanging out like it's it's it's
a nice place. It's a good place to be.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But again, the duck fart, I have never heard you
say that word before, So that must be from olden times,
probably from olden, olden times.
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Speaker 1 (12:31):
John Bolton, who served as National security advisor during Trump's
first term before swapping sides essentially becoming a critic of
the president, has pleaded not guilty surrendered today to charges
of mishandling classified information. Federal grand jury in Maryland charged
Bolton yesterday with eight counts of transmission of national defense
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information ten counts of unlawful retention of that information. He
faces up to ten years in prison and a two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine per count, and three
years of what's called special release. I don't know what
that entails. How old is John Bolton?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Seventies five? I want to guess sound maybe a pretty
good estimate.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
They say that he used he transmitted this information using
his personal email.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We've heard this before.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, and that there was a slew of different top
secret or sci level with two unauthorized individuals. In the
criminal complaint, they're only named as Individuals one and two.
Apparently they were both relatives of his whom he would
message and email the information to, although they did not
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have security clearances.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
He'll be seventy seven next month. This charge, it's kind
of like a holding charge in the NFL. You can
call a holding penalty pretty much on every down. And
this is the same thing that goes for politics in
terms of transmitting important information, whether it's got the big
C for confidential or just important defense information.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It happens all the time. It's just whether you're called
on it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And the President had an ax to grind against John Bolton,
and that's what this is essentially.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
John Bolton also had come out when Trump and Biden
were accused of mishandling classified documents and had this to say.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
And it sets a bad example for the thousands of
other people in the federal bureaucracy who have security clearances,
because if the people at the top can be casual
about it and then get away with it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That is not a good lesson to teach. And this
shouldn't surprise anybody. This is what Trump says about John Bolton.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I think he's a.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Bad guy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
But that's the way it goes.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's the where it goes, right, That's the way it goes.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Bolton's attorney says that this has all been asked an answer.
The underlying facts in the case were investigated years ago,
were resolved years ago. He said these charges stem from
portions of his personal diaries over his forty five year career,
records that are unclassified, shared only with his immediate family,
and known to the FBI going back to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Listen, this is one of those cases where, like you said,
it seems like there are a lot of people, I mean,
how many thousands of people have access to this kind
of information in the government, and John Bolton's the one
they go after.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I mean, Hillary Klaro's got her information that she's sharing.
You've got Joe Biden with his and his old Jaguar
or Camaro or Corvette, whatever the hell of the car
is in Delaware. You've got people with Trump's got boxes
in mar A Lago underneath the gold ceiling. They all
have sensitive information and they could all be found guilty
of negligence at best and sharing it at worst.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, and then let's go back to the ten thousand
foot level of can't we just expect more of all
of our high level politicians? No, can't we expect that
all of them have a little bit more respect for
the classified documents that they have.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That question away years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I thought you were cynical, Gary, now that understood that
everyone is an a hole.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, it's maybe it's this place. I think you're in
a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Bucolic land right now in the central coast, and it's
clouding your vision of the toilet that is the rest
of the world. Maybe coming up next, Fred Rogan just
walked in. By the way, Oh, you're missing a Fred
Rogan visit. Yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
When we come back, we'll talk about the Trump's meeting
with Zelenski and what's on tap for Putin. He's got
to be pissed at Putin. We'll see about what's to
come on that front as well.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
By the way, I found this out. I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
The oldest combined age of quarterbacks is not Aaron Rodgers
and Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, because guys played into their forties years ago, right, But.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It wasn't even that long ago. Drew Brees and Tom
Brady okay, in twenty twenty one, okay, in a playoff game?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
How old were they? Well?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
The combined age eighty five years, one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Wow, So Drew Brees played later than I thought. Yeah,
how old was Tom Brady when he retired?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He had to be forty three I'm assuming forty two. Wow,
and that would have been a couple of years before
he actually retired. Joe Flacco looks older than forty. Joe
Flacco looks about fifty one.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But holy crap.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
When we talk about that later in the show, I
have to play for you as well, the Cleveland Sports
talk people who are blasting their team for giving away
Joe Flatch.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh, I can't wait. I cannot wait for that. That
is what I woke up for.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'm not saying I would ever be able to make
that play.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
For sure, Dude, Gary, you need to lead that chair
and march your ass back easter wherever you came from.
That was a BET's play. There was nothing Jeter about it.
What dude, what's see? I helped you help America. Maybe
the world Dodger Dodger Dodger.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Isn't it plural? I just like it coming from you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
A Jeter reference was it was cognitive dissonance for me,
like hearing a Bay Area, California West Coast guy be
like it was like Jeter, that's just.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Wrong, Like it's just wrong, you know, but it's true.
I understand. It just feels wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You don't have to give the Yankees, any of them
any more rounds of applause.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
They get enough attention.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's important to point out also you I think it
was Kate's that mentioned it last night on the post
game Derek Jeter kind of jokingly said, yeah, but you
got to make it there, and you know, in the air,
you gotta hit him in the chest. Don't don't bounce
that ball. He then turned around and praised Mookie Bets.
Are the things that he's done since he's become a Dodger,
going from right field to second base to shortstop and
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excelling at every single one of those positions.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It'd be one if he gave a shout out to
you know, Jimmy Fox or something, somebody from the Bay area,
somebody who gets no applause, you know. Derek Jeter asked
an answered, if you get an A Rod documentary coming
out too, I don't wondry about the timing of that.
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And it's called something obnoxious like Alex and a Rod
or Alex versus a Rod or something like is this
the man or is it alleged?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, from the people who brought you the bad Jennifer
Lopez document.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, oh my god, aren't people done with the self flogging?
That's not that's not what it is. What is it
self flagellation? You know that's also that's also hurting yourself,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah? What what's the oh, master Bay bas right, That's
what I was looking for. Yeah, our time figuring out
those two well, uh I uh, we went for the
pain first. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We expect to see Ukrainian President Vladimir's Lensky Voladimir's Alynsky
meeting with President Trump today and One of the big
issues on the table has been whether or not Trump
is going to sell Tomahawk cruise missiles to Ukraine. The
President was on the phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin
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just yesterday and said, yeah, I brought up the tomahawks.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is he gonna say, please sell those tomahawks?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I really appreciate it. I did actually say, would you
mind if I gave a couple of thousand tomahawks to
your opposition? I did say that to him. I said
it just that way. He didn't like the idea.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
He really did, like you I did.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
There was a big, big announce that came out yesterday
after that call where President Trump said that he is
expecting to have another face to face meeting with Vladimir
Putin in Budapest coming up within the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Where do you think he is on Putin and frustration
and especially now that he's coming off this victory lap
of what happened with Gaza and the piece there that
he was able to brok her ask anybody. Everyone seems
to be giving him a round of applause for this.
So where do you think that puts his confidence going
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into this meeting? With Putin in terms of getting something accomplished.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, that's a great, that's a good I don't know
if anybody has a real good line onto what goes
on in that guy's head at all. I mean, I
know he verbalizes so much of what he thinks, there's
very little filter there. But this is one of those
mysterious ones because it seems like the way Putin has
handled Trump over these last even four or five months
(22:04):
is anathema to the way he would allow others to
handle him. And because it seems like Putin would promise
one thing or lead Trump along in certain ways and
then turn around and do the complete opposite. You know,
he would talk about trying to tone down the violence
in the war, as ironic as that sounds, and then
launch a record number of drones and missiles at Kiev,
(22:27):
I mean, within hours after hanging up on a phone
call with Trump. And it's it seems like if anybody
else had done that that he would have Trump would
have come out more angrily as opposed to just kind
of shrugging his shoulders, going, I don't get Vladimir. I
don't know exactly what he's doing. I'm not happy about it.
He would have been more vociferous about it. So I
(22:48):
don't know, I mean, I don't know why he plays
this guy softer. Granted, Russia is a major power and
you kind of have to respect it. You can't just
fly off the handle. But it seems like now would
be a perfect time to start flying off the handle
with this. You know, big win between Israel and Hamas
in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The word of the day, ladies and gentlemen, is vociferous.
Vociferous is the word for your Friday, October seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It is earthquake Day for all who celebrate. Was Oh
my gosh, that was he?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh he just cut out an earthquake in the Central Coast.
Wouldn't that be wild? If there was all right when
you said it and it started?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, there wasn't. You're still there?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Sorry, sorry, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
If you don't like me, this guy likes me. David's
David san Clementy exactly right, Mookie Bets is not Derek Jeter.
See the captain hit him in the chest.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Derek Peter threw it all the way across the diamond
without having to bounce it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Movie.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That guy's covered in New England. And you know why
hear it? Do you know why you can hear it?
Because he used the words the Captain.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I respect Eric Jeter. I love him as a player.
He seems like a great guy, love his Lincoln commercials.
But I do not call him the captain. And the
only people who do that are people who are Yankees fan.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And also, why did I say New England? Because he's
a guy from New England that became a Yankees fans.
We hate himself that much more. Garyan Shannon will continue
It's Rider or Die for La today.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Baby, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Some of the biggest news is coming out of the
DC area today. Among other things, former National Security Advisor
John Bolton pleaded not guilty to charges of mishandling classified information.
President Trump is supposed to be meeting with Ukrainian President
Volodimerzelinski today.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh King Charles is going to pray publicly with the.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Which is significant because they said it's the first time
an English monarch has prayed with a pope in at
least five hundred years.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Are they Catholic?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
They are Protestant, right, They're Anglican that's interesting. Yeah, they
said that this would be a symbolic gesture of friendship
between the Catholic Church and the Church of England.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Usually, when you're friends with someone, you don't have to
join their religion to show your friendship, right, not that
he's joining, but this is kind of odd, Like I
don't know, if I don't know whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Ace died, Yes, this was awful.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Kiss was one of those bands I was never allowed
to listen to as a kid because my parents thought
that they were satanic.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And then when I got into like what so that
it's funny, it's true, yeah, or true for a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
When I got into high school and started listening to
the music, it was exposed to it. It would just
became such an anthem for that time of life, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
See, my sisters were older than I was, so they
were exposed to it before I was, and they had
boyfriends that always loved Kiss, and I had friends that
had Kiss posters and things like that, which would never
have flown in my house at all. Ace Freely apparently
was in pretty poor health had fallen. I heard that
he had fallen recently and was put on life support,
(26:22):
but he died at the age of seventy.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You were only allowed that one David Cassidy poster.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Right, No, actually I did have a I did have one,
I guess girly poster that you would call it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And we've talked about it before. It was it was
Shelley Hack. That's right, Shelley. She was older than wasn't she.
Of course she was.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
She was in a probably she was in her thirties
when I when I had that poster. I don't even
know if she's still around, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
She's like your mom's age. I mean, Shelley Hack must
have been about your mom's age.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Probably. Yeah, good for you. I sure when I was
a kid, you know what.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And it's always a sign of great maturity and a
man when he like and he appreciates the older women
and their maturity.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
She is seventy eight years old exactly, so like your
mother's contemporary.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, wow, your mom must have been proud like my boy. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I was gonna end that sentence, and I apologize for
starting it. Yesterday we told you about Rey Ray the cat.
I feel like we're running out of time and we
don't have the time to dedicate to this story right now,
so we're going to have to do it later on.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
We do have time for me to tell you that
The Golden Bachelor is awful. Oh really.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I watched another episode of this this week, and I
had seen all the write ups earlier in the week
saying that this is an awful show. There's nothing that
the producers can do to save it. The ratings are abysmal.
Nobody likes this guy. He doesn't like any of the women.
There's no chemistry, and my god, it was all true when.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I watched it. He doesn't have that same us.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
That Gary had nov and that was why he was lovable,
because he didn't know what he was doing. This guy
thinks he's the second coming at sixty six. You know,
he's got that I was an NFL player kind of
vibe going on.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
And uh.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
He went on a podcast just months before this show
aired and basically said, I don't want to date women
over sixty. I'm not going to date women over sixty.
And all the women are over sixty and he is
sixty six. But you can tell he's that guy who
wants like a forty five year old. You know, he
just he's got that vibe about him. When he's looking
at these women, you can read his mind, and his
(28:38):
mind is exactly what he said in interview, So I
don't know why you'd expect anything different.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You get the impression then when you're watching this he's
just tolerating, yes, so that eventually when the show wraps up,
he can get his forty five year old.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes and yes, you're absolutely right. That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That is exactly how you feel watching this. And thankfully
this week one of the women was like, you know what,
he's not my guy.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I was like, well done, ma'am, well done, because these
women are all stunners.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And the first time around with the Golden Bachelor, what
I loved about it it was women were beautiful and
they were strong and they were just not Caddy, and
that's kind of what rang true for me, like, Wow,
the future is looking good, Like these women are awesome,
and this one around too, it's like it feels the
same way, except you've got this guy who's just like
(29:29):
in to use your word, because you're just guessing tolerating
dating women that are his age, and it's so apparent,
and that leaves you feeling kind of icky, and you're like, Eh,
these women deserve so much better than a guy who's
like I don't want to know a woman my age.
So it's that's the whole vibe of the show, and
it's no bueno. And I don't know if they're I
don't know if they can resuscitate this this franchise or
(29:50):
this this spinoff of The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well, I don't know if you've intended this, but when
my wife leaves me, maybe I would. You would do
crazify for the Golden Bass, would do great.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And you know, Mischelle lady right right. I didn't know
what we would get into that, but we laid the
groundwork perfectly.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You would be great. You would never look at a
woman like I can do better, Like you know that
guy that does that, he's that guy.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And you you respect women way too much to have
that look on your face, and he will has that
look on his face.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I'm glad I've fooled you. Maybe I could fool the
rest of America.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yes, God, you're awful. You're just like the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Coming back, Malibu is gonna start arresting the homeless.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
There's homeless in Malibu. Of course there are. We'll get
into it right here on Gary and Channon. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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IF I Am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. That was an incredible play.
Like I'm still thinking about the athleticism needed for that play.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jeter esque play.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I would say, Oh my go Jee, Screw Jeter. Screw Jeter.
Derek Jeter is the greatest short stop to play. Zy,
Mookie Bets is really good. Oh Derek Jeter.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, sounds like Chris Collinsworth and Patrick Mahomes over there.
Gary and Shannon k I Am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. And Gary, I heard Tim Kates
talking about this this morning with David Vassay on Kate's
and Sacks in the morning And uh, you guys were
(00:48):
talking to Vassa Katsy about how Mookie Betts started his
training the earliest he ever has in the off season
November first or whatever. He starts going to different feel
around the valley here to play shortstop.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, he was working with some of the Dodgers infield
coaches and guys who are around the clubhouse in the offseason.
They were out of Sierra Canyon High School. They were
out like three different high schools here in the valley
wherever they can get field time, and they were just
working on ground balls, working on different scenarios, different plays
for you know, glove hand backhands, different things every single
day because he wanted to get better. I think part
of is he heard the comments last year you can't
(01:26):
do this. You know, nobody over the age of thirty
makes a transition from outfield to shortstop in the major leagues.
And I think he took it personal last offseason to
get to be the best shortstop he could be and
to try to win a Gold Glove, which he's now
a finalist to do. And by the way, you reference
Derek Jeter. Jeter was on Fox last night on the
postgame show. I'm not sure if he saw this, but
they showed a comparison of his throw that he did
(01:48):
multiple times that batcanp jump stop throw to first base ye,
and Jeter says, it's not even close.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I didn't want to hop it. I threw it on
a straight line. What they show.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But is that is what I want to give Jeeter
no more credit because he's that guy.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
But tim the amount of arm strength it takes, and
I'm not taking anything away from from Mookie Butts because
that was an incredibly athletic play, period, But the amount
of arm strength it takes to get that ball. Your
body's going away from first base when you make that throw,
you've jumped in the air.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't think people.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I don't think people can wrap for their head around
how strong those guys are.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
When they do that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
No, he threw it from the lip of the grass,
so when he was in air, he was over the
grass in shallow love Field throwing back over the first base.
I mean, I haven't seen a play like that since
I don't know the adult fantasy camp in Scottsdale for
the Giants earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The only difference was I was playing third base. I
was in foul territory, okay, and I didn't want to
hop it either. Of course he hopped it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Would he be the first player to get a Golden
Glove at outfield and infield?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
No, I think, I say, actually was asked us this morning,
what did he say, Darren Erstad, I think did it
as a first basement with the Angels, and then he
played outfield for the Angels as well. Until that's cool,
So I think Darren Erstadt has done a little so
cal connection doesn't happen very often though.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
All right, so Dodger fans should be feeling good going
into this one. My husband has like a cocktail party
at his boss's office this evening during the game. I'm like, oh, man,
that's right. That's a tough one right now. You're not
going I am, And I mean I said to him
(03:34):
this morning jokingly but not. I said, well, at least
we can get it on the phone. And he just
looked at me like, you're not going to be the
person who's on their phone watching the game. And I
looked back at him without saying words, absolutely, I am.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Wait a second, So.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Not only can you not watch or listen to the game,
but you have to go to this and not know
what's happened at all.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You got to have it on the TV, right right?
What kind of party is this is? This is a
Dodger game. You got to have it on the TV.
It's got to be on the TV. Yeah, I mean,
this is a closeout game.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You've got show heyo Tani the unicorn on the mound
in game four tonight against the Brewers team that you're
stepping on their throat. You can't let them up. They're
hitting like under one hundred as a team in this postseason.
They had the most wins in baseball during the regular season.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They're looking at this.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
There's a picture of Christian Yelich on MLB dot Com
sitting in the Brewers dugout yesterday looking up towards the
right field JumboTron, and in his face you can just
see it, like, what is happening?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, what is happening in this series?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
What are The Dodgers are too good?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They had to know going into it that this was
going to be a siss offician task for them to
beat this.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
As soon as you get into a fight, you think
you can win a fight, Right then you get into
the fight. All of a sudden, you got your backup,
instant wall. You're getting just blow after blow. You're like,
when is this going to stop?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah? Well the pitching.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
The pitching has come alive, even even though the bats
have been mediocre. You know, I said yesterday after the game,
I almost said I feel I'm worried about sho hey Atani,
But then I'm like he had a triple, Like, in
what other world are you worried about somebody in the
light who only hit a triple.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and then he thankfully Mookie Bets was able to
drive him in. But I credit Steve Sacks for that
triple yes day, I do too. And here's a fun fact.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Steve Sacks Gary threw out the first pitch last night
after coming on our show. Now, I shook Steve Sax's
hand yesterday morning. He goes and throws out the first
pitch and then he shakes show hey at Tani's hand.
So do you see this level basically shook seven hundred
million dollars in land.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It is I I mean, I'm drunk on power. Is
it overwhelming? It is over I feel like Thanos Yeah
with my hand. Stop with the Thanos references.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's the second time in fewer than six days, and
you're starting to worry me.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh well, listen when you have this kind of power,
I guess you.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Know what's kind of cool is Steve was telling the
story off air beforehand. I'm like, wow, did Otani really
say hi to him? And he showed me a picture
that they took on the field together. Not only did
showy Otani after the national anthem and the American flag
me on the field and all the Pockham stams to
fly over and everything. He came over to Mikesosha and
Steve and shook both their hands in respect and honoring
(06:05):
a former Dodger because he gets it and understands the
players before him. If you can't love the guy anymore,
I mean everybody loves him.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The respect he has for the game and for players
and for man like all of it. It's just if
you love baseball, you must love Shoey A Tani no
matter who you.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I love the fact that when he goes up to play,
he tips the cap to the visiting mass. Yes, he
makes sure he makes eye contact with the catcher like, hey,
how you doing about to go to work? Okay, and
then looks at the umpire like let's do this.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's the coyote and roadrunner when they punch in the
clock before they start going after each other. Very similar,
very soon, very similar. Five thirty three is the first
pitch today at Dodger Stadium. Show Heyo Tani, as we've
been saying, will be the pitcher, will be the starting pitcher,
and who knows, maybe he breaks out of I mean
like Shannon said, a triple is not a slumpbuster necessarily,
(06:56):
But what are we worried about that?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But it's not really a slump when you go out
there and hit a triple for most people exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean when your team is eight and one in
the postseason.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And to put this into context with the starting pitching
has done in each of the last four games, the
Dodger pitching staff has a allowed one or zero runs,
has allowed fewer than five hits, has allowed fewer than
five walks, has struck out seven plus batters in each
of those outings. No other team in baseball modern era
has done that in four straight games at any point,
(07:26):
regular season or postseason. And if you're the Milwaukee Brewers,
you're like, Okay, we're back into this series. Oh great show,
Hey Otani, now on the mountain. I mean, Gary, I
think about baseball right now, we're how deluded it is.
And the pitching is that it's probably as lowest as
far as overall starting pitching across baseball to have four
(07:46):
four aces in your back pocket healthy and we're not
even talking about a Hall of Famer and Clayton Kershaw,
who you can still go to in the bullpit. You
got four dudes that are in this rotation. There's no
other team in baseball that comes close. Well, and halfway
through the season, no one was sure that they were
going to have that.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Although you know when shoe Hey Otani was going to
come back and he was going to start pitching, and
but I would say, you know, right before the All
Star break, there were still plenty of questions about whether
or not those four guys were going to be able
to put it together. And listen, as we've said before,
regardless of the sport, the timing is everything. You can
have an awful August, you can have a horrible September,
(08:27):
but October first rolls around, and if you get guys
off the injured list, if you get pictures that come
back into it, you get somebody like a Key k
Hernandez who hits what three seventy or something ridiculous like that.
You put all the pieces together at the right time,
you could do anything. Yeah, I look at this lineup
is unbelievable. They haven't even scratched the surface with Otani.
(08:47):
Betts has been okay, Freddie Freeman's been up and down.
I mean, you're relying on Tommy Edmond who was nowhere
to in the regular season he was battling an ankle injury.
He's your ringing NLCS MVP. He's starting to get hot.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And and you still got guys with the chip on
their shoulder, like Mookie Betts, Who's they all said he
can't do it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He's like watch me. I mean, they've got everything.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I think the biggest thing we should all be anticipating
tonight is not only a taany pitching, a celebration and
a back to back trip to the World Series, but
post game on an FHI seven E LA Sports, what
kind of nugget are we going to get from Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Last time out?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
We got the whole I don't hardly want to wear pants, Dave,
and they've turned it into a T shirt that the
players are all wearing during the workouts on Wednesday at
Dodger Stadium. And before that you have Blake trying in
a Dodger closer spraining David Vassa with a champagne bottle
like it's a fire hose.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You want your exclusive nowadays.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So I would like to say that David Vassa is
much like Humpy the Salmon up in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh good point, exactly, Humpy, all right on, Tim Kates,
we do the best.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You guys are my favorite show. Caff Oh thank you.
I want more Gary Shannon. Oh you can catch the
Weekend podcast. Already listened to it. Okay, coming up next,
we yes up up next.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think maybe this is a record for us, our
first former guest that's been indicted on federal charges.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I can't wait. I love that. We know somebody inside
you know it's going to serve some real time.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Not really, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Quick. Not correction or retraction. Maybe an addition.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
We were talking with Tim Kates just a second ago
about whoever has won two Gold Gloves at different positions.
He mentioned Darren Erstadt as outfielder and a first baseman.
Placido Polanco won two gold gloves, one at second, one
at third, and then DJ Lemayhew won a gold Glove
at second base and also as a as a utility player.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So apparently three.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I was just one of writers who had won at
outfield and infields.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh then yeah, then he then he was right there. Well,
I guess you could say lem Mayhew because he had
play just a duck fart worth of outfield at one point.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So, duck fart.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You're at your parents house right now? I'm like, do
you did things come back to you in your parents house?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Things like duck fart? Is that what I'm said?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Saying? It is?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It is very funny. It's not funny at all. I mean,
this is this is the this house, this is where
both of my parents passed. I'm not in that room
right now because that would be even more weird. But
there's a there's a lot of weird memories and all
that stuff that kind of comes back. Yeah, but it's beautiful.
It's a beautiful sunrise this morning. My wife went for
(11:42):
a walk. The dog's hanging out like it's it's it's
a nice place. It's a good place to be.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But again, the duck fart, I have never heard you
say that word before, So that must be from olden times,
probably from olden, olden times.
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Speaker 1 (12:31):
John Bolton, who served as National security advisor during Trump's
first term before swapping sides essentially becoming a critic of
the president, has pleaded not guilty surrendered today to charges
of mishandling classified information. Federal grand jury in Maryland charged
Bolton yesterday with eight counts of transmission of national defense
(12:54):
information ten counts of unlawful retention of that information. He
faces up to ten years in prison and a two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine per count, and three
years of what's called special release. I don't know what
that entails. How old is John Bolton?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Seventies five? I want to guess sound maybe a pretty
good estimate.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
They say that he used he transmitted this information using
his personal email.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We've heard this before.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, and that there was a slew of different top
secret or sci level with two unauthorized individuals. In the
criminal complaint, they're only named as Individuals one and two.
Apparently they were both relatives of his whom he would
message and email the information to, although they did not
(13:45):
have security clearances.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
He'll be seventy seven next month. This charge, it's kind
of like a holding charge in the NFL. You can
call a holding penalty pretty much on every down. And
this is the same thing that goes for politics in
terms of transmitting important information, whether it's got the big
C for confidential or just important defense information.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It happens all the time. It's just whether you're called
on it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And the President had an ax to grind against John Bolton,
and that's what this is essentially.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
John Bolton also had come out when Trump and Biden
were accused of mishandling classified documents and had this to say.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
And it sets a bad example for the thousands of
other people in the federal bureaucracy who have security clearances,
because if the people at the top can be casual
about it and then get away with it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That is not a good lesson to teach. And this
shouldn't surprise anybody. This is what Trump says about John Bolton.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I think he's a.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Bad guy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
But that's the way it goes.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's the where it goes, right, That's the way it goes.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Bolton's attorney says that this has all been asked an answer.
The underlying facts in the case were investigated years ago,
were resolved years ago. He said these charges stem from
portions of his personal diaries over his forty five year career,
records that are unclassified, shared only with his immediate family,
and known to the FBI going back to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Listen, this is one of those cases where, like you said,
it seems like there are a lot of people, I mean,
how many thousands of people have access to this kind
of information in the government, and John Bolton's the one
they go after.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I mean, Hillary Klaro's got her information that she's sharing.
You've got Joe Biden with his and his old Jaguar
or Camaro or Corvette, whatever the hell of the car
is in Delaware. You've got people with Trump's got boxes
in mar A Lago underneath the gold ceiling. They all
have sensitive information and they could all be found guilty
of negligence at best and sharing it at worst.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, and then let's go back to the ten thousand
foot level of can't we just expect more of all
of our high level politicians? No, can't we expect that
all of them have a little bit more respect for
the classified documents that they have.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That question away years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I thought you were cynical, Gary, now that understood that
everyone is an a hole.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, it's maybe it's this place. I think you're in
a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Bucolic land right now in the central coast, and it's
clouding your vision of the toilet that is the rest
of the world. Maybe coming up next, Fred Rogan just
walked in. By the way, Oh, you're missing a Fred
Rogan visit. Yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
When we come back, we'll talk about the Trump's meeting
with Zelenski and what's on tap for Putin. He's got
to be pissed at Putin. We'll see about what's to
come on that front as well.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
By the way, I found this out. I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
The oldest combined age of quarterbacks is not Aaron Rodgers
and Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, because guys played into their forties years ago, right, But.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It wasn't even that long ago. Drew Brees and Tom
Brady okay, in twenty twenty one, okay, in a playoff game?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
How old were they? Well?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
The combined age eighty five years, one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Wow, So Drew Brees played later than I thought. Yeah,
how old was Tom Brady when he retired?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He had to be forty three I'm assuming forty two. Wow,
and that would have been a couple of years before
he actually retired. Joe Flacco looks older than forty. Joe
Flacco looks about fifty one.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But holy crap.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
When we talk about that later in the show, I
have to play for you as well, the Cleveland Sports
talk people who are blasting their team for giving away
Joe Flatch.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh, I can't wait. I cannot wait for that. That
is what I woke up for.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'm not saying I would ever be able to make
that play.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
For sure, Dude, Gary, you need to lead that chair
and march your ass back easter wherever you came from.
That was a BET's play. There was nothing Jeter about it.
What dude, what's see? I helped you help America. Maybe
the world Dodger Dodger Dodger.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Isn't it plural? I just like it coming from you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
A Jeter reference was it was cognitive dissonance for me,
like hearing a Bay Area, California West Coast guy be
like it was like Jeter, that's just.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Wrong, Like it's just wrong, you know, but it's true.
I understand. It just feels wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You don't have to give the Yankees, any of them
any more rounds of applause.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
They get enough attention.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's important to point out also you I think it
was Kate's that mentioned it last night on the post
game Derek Jeter kind of jokingly said, yeah, but you
got to make it there, and you know, in the air,
you gotta hit him in the chest. Don't don't bounce
that ball. He then turned around and praised Mookie Bets.
Are the things that he's done since he's become a Dodger,
going from right field to second base to shortstop and
(19:06):
excelling at every single one of those positions.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It'd be one if he gave a shout out to
you know, Jimmy Fox or something, somebody from the Bay area,
somebody who gets no applause, you know. Derek Jeter asked
an answered, if you get an A Rod documentary coming
out too, I don't wondry about the timing of that.
(19:31):
And it's called something obnoxious like Alex and a Rod
or Alex versus a Rod or something like is this
the man or is it alleged?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, from the people who brought you the bad Jennifer
Lopez document.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, oh my god, aren't people done with the self flogging?
That's not that's not what it is. What is it
self flagellation? You know that's also that's also hurting yourself,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah? What what's the oh, master Bay bas right, That's
what I was looking for. Yeah, our time figuring out
those two well, uh I uh, we went for the
pain first. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We expect to see Ukrainian President Vladimir's Lensky Voladimir's Alynsky
meeting with President Trump today and One of the big
issues on the table has been whether or not Trump
is going to sell Tomahawk cruise missiles to Ukraine. The
President was on the phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin
(20:33):
just yesterday and said, yeah, I brought up the tomahawks.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is he gonna say, please sell those tomahawks?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I really appreciate it. I did actually say, would you
mind if I gave a couple of thousand tomahawks to
your opposition? I did say that to him. I said
it just that way. He didn't like the idea.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
He really did, like you I did.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
There was a big, big announce that came out yesterday
after that call where President Trump said that he is
expecting to have another face to face meeting with Vladimir
Putin in Budapest coming up within the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Where do you think he is on Putin and frustration
and especially now that he's coming off this victory lap
of what happened with Gaza and the piece there that
he was able to brok her ask anybody. Everyone seems
to be giving him a round of applause for this.
So where do you think that puts his confidence going
(21:37):
into this meeting? With Putin in terms of getting something accomplished.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, that's a great, that's a good I don't know
if anybody has a real good line onto what goes
on in that guy's head at all. I mean, I
know he verbalizes so much of what he thinks, there's
very little filter there. But this is one of those
mysterious ones because it seems like the way Putin has
handled Trump over these last even four or five months
(22:04):
is anathema to the way he would allow others to
handle him. And because it seems like Putin would promise
one thing or lead Trump along in certain ways and
then turn around and do the complete opposite. You know,
he would talk about trying to tone down the violence
in the war, as ironic as that sounds, and then
launch a record number of drones and missiles at Kiev,
(22:27):
I mean, within hours after hanging up on a phone
call with Trump. And it's it seems like if anybody
else had done that that he would have Trump would
have come out more angrily as opposed to just kind
of shrugging his shoulders, going, I don't get Vladimir. I
don't know exactly what he's doing. I'm not happy about it.
He would have been more vociferous about it. So I
(22:48):
don't know, I mean, I don't know why he plays
this guy softer. Granted, Russia is a major power and
you kind of have to respect it. You can't just
fly off the handle. But it seems like now would
be a perfect time to start flying off the handle
with this. You know, big win between Israel and Hamas
in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The word of the day, ladies and gentlemen, is vociferous.
Vociferous is the word for your Friday, October seventeenth.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It is earthquake Day for all who celebrate. Was Oh
my gosh, that was he?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh he just cut out an earthquake in the Central Coast.
Wouldn't that be wild? If there was all right when
you said it and it started?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, there wasn't. You're still there?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Sorry, sorry, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
If you don't like me, this guy likes me. David's
David san Clementy exactly right, Mookie Bets is not Derek Jeter.
See the captain hit him in the chest.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Derek Peter threw it all the way across the diamond
without having to bounce it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Movie.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
That guy's covered in New England. And you know why
hear it? Do you know why you can hear it?
Because he used the words the Captain.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I respect Eric Jeter. I love him as a player.
He seems like a great guy, love his Lincoln commercials.
But I do not call him the captain. And the
only people who do that are people who are Yankees fan.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And also, why did I say New England? Because he's
a guy from New England that became a Yankees fans.
We hate himself that much more. Garyan Shannon will continue
It's Rider or Die for La today.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Baby, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Some of the biggest news is coming out of the
DC area today. Among other things, former National Security Advisor
John Bolton pleaded not guilty to charges of mishandling classified information.
President Trump is supposed to be meeting with Ukrainian President
Volodimerzelinski today.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh King Charles is going to pray publicly with the.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Which is significant because they said it's the first time
an English monarch has prayed with a pope in at
least five hundred years.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Are they Catholic?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
They are Protestant, right, They're Anglican that's interesting. Yeah, they
said that this would be a symbolic gesture of friendship
between the Catholic Church and the Church of England.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Usually, when you're friends with someone, you don't have to
join their religion to show your friendship, right, not that
he's joining, but this is kind of odd, Like I
don't know, if I don't know whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Ace died, Yes, this was awful.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Kiss was one of those bands I was never allowed
to listen to as a kid because my parents thought
that they were satanic.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And then when I got into like what so that
it's funny, it's true, yeah, or true for a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
When I got into high school and started listening to
the music, it was exposed to it. It would just
became such an anthem for that time of life, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
See, my sisters were older than I was, so they
were exposed to it before I was, and they had
boyfriends that always loved Kiss, and I had friends that
had Kiss posters and things like that, which would never
have flown in my house at all. Ace Freely apparently
was in pretty poor health had fallen. I heard that
he had fallen recently and was put on life support,
(26:22):
but he died at the age of seventy.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You were only allowed that one David Cassidy poster.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Right, No, actually I did have a I did have one,
I guess girly poster that you would call it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And we've talked about it before. It was it was
Shelley Hack. That's right, Shelley. She was older than wasn't she.
Of course she was.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
She was in a probably she was in her thirties
when I when I had that poster. I don't even
know if she's still around, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
She's like your mom's age. I mean, Shelley Hack must
have been about your mom's age.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Probably. Yeah, good for you. I sure when I was
a kid, you know what.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And it's always a sign of great maturity and a
man when he like and he appreciates the older women
and their maturity.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
She is seventy eight years old exactly, so like your
mother's contemporary.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, wow, your mom must have been proud like my boy. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I was gonna end that sentence, and I apologize for
starting it. Yesterday we told you about Rey Ray the cat.
I feel like we're running out of time and we
don't have the time to dedicate to this story right now,
so we're going to have to do it later on.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
We do have time for me to tell you that
The Golden Bachelor is awful. Oh really.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I watched another episode of this this week, and I
had seen all the write ups earlier in the week
saying that this is an awful show. There's nothing that
the producers can do to save it. The ratings are abysmal.
Nobody likes this guy. He doesn't like any of the women.
There's no chemistry, and my god, it was all true when.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I watched it. He doesn't have that same us.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
That Gary had nov and that was why he was lovable,
because he didn't know what he was doing. This guy
thinks he's the second coming at sixty six. You know,
he's got that I was an NFL player kind of
vibe going on.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
And uh.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
He went on a podcast just months before this show
aired and basically said, I don't want to date women
over sixty. I'm not going to date women over sixty.
And all the women are over sixty and he is
sixty six. But you can tell he's that guy who
wants like a forty five year old. You know, he
just he's got that vibe about him. When he's looking
at these women, you can read his mind, and his
(28:38):
mind is exactly what he said in interview, So I
don't know why you'd expect anything different.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You get the impression then when you're watching this he's
just tolerating, yes, so that eventually when the show wraps up,
he can get his forty five year old.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes and yes, you're absolutely right. That's it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That is exactly how you feel watching this. And thankfully
this week one of the women was like, you know what,
he's not my guy.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I was like, well done, ma'am, well done, because these
women are all stunners.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And the first time around with the Golden Bachelor, what
I loved about it it was women were beautiful and
they were strong and they were just not Caddy, and
that's kind of what rang true for me, like, Wow,
the future is looking good, Like these women are awesome,
and this one around too, it's like it feels the
same way, except you've got this guy who's just like
(29:29):
in to use your word, because you're just guessing tolerating
dating women that are his age, and it's so apparent,
and that leaves you feeling kind of icky, and you're like, Eh,
these women deserve so much better than a guy who's
like I don't want to know a woman my age.
So it's that's the whole vibe of the show, and
it's no bueno. And I don't know if they're I
don't know if they can resuscitate this this franchise or
(29:50):
this this spinoff of The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well, I don't know if you've intended this, but when
my wife leaves me, maybe I would. You would do
crazify for the Golden Bass, would do great.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And you know, Mischelle lady right right. I didn't know
what we would get into that, but we laid the
groundwork perfectly.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You would be great. You would never look at a
woman like I can do better, Like you know that
guy that does that, he's that guy.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
And you you respect women way too much to have
that look on your face, and he will has that
look on his face.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I'm glad I've fooled you. Maybe I could fool the
rest of America.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yes, God, you're awful. You're just like the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Coming back, Malibu is gonna start arresting the homeless.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
There's homeless in Malibu. Of course there are. We'll get
into it right here on Gary and Channon. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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