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November 3, 2025 • 27 mins
Gary and Shannon ride the high of the Dodgers World Series parade with live updates from downtown LA, including the wild crowd energy, confetti cannons, and a final check-in with KFI’s own Michael Monks. 

Then, it’s time for an express #SwampWatch as President Trump and Governor Newsom face tough interviews that reveal a lot more than expected. Finally, they pivot from politics to pumpkin spice wars aka Gen Z’s coffee revolution. From Dutch Bros dominance to Starbucks’ identity crisis, Gary and Shannon debate whether we want dessert in a cup or just a solid cup of coffee.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Well, the world champion Los Angeles
Dodgers have boarded the top deck of the double deck
or buses as they start making their way downtown.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
They have all.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Loaded up there outside the Federal Courts building there on
Spring and they are going to be headed to where
all of the people are. Massive police presence. You can
see all the motor officers there from the LAPD. We
were watching keyk Hernandez on the top deck. I think
you said the cam quarterer from nineteen ninety seven. He's

(00:44):
got one of those handheld cam quarterers, not the big ones.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I yeah, but the little flip.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Outside ones, classic Kik Clayton Kershaw looks like a homeless man.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
They picked up somewhere at skid Row.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
So that is a funny quick They're all wearing black
you know, twenty twenty five back to back world champion
with the World Series trophy on and everything, all wearing
black T shirts.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Clayton has cut the sleeves off.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Again that's his thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
And now he's got that long gray beard. Yeah, it's
like old Man in the.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Sea up there.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
They will they'll start their way through through downtown here.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Pretty soon Michael Monks is down there. We'll join him again.
At the bottom of the hours they get a bit
closer through there.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, you know what also is cool about the Baseball
World Series praides is you've got the families up there.
You've got the guys, wives, you've got their kids. It's
a family atmosphere there too. Sure they're having their cocktails
as well, you know, beers or what have you. But
it's also a super family experience the Baseball World brings.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, did they print all that I'm thinking of
the rats that they're putting around the buses and stuff
like that, So they print all those up Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, it must have.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
And then man, that's a lot of people right, a
couple hundred thousand probably through downtown LA.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
They are going to go through downtown Lay.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
They'll head their way back up to Dodger Stadium for
a separate event. That was It was a lot of
fun to watch last year because they had so many fun.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Cameos. I guess there's something.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Really cool about seeing the overhead shots and like you said,
the couple hundred thousand people that we can see lining
the streets. There's something cool about being a fan and
seeing other fans turn out like that. And I feel
the same way when I see you know, forty nine
Er fans, you know, taking over a stadium like they
did yesterday in New York.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
It's just something.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's like a sense of fandom, pride of like they
showed up. You know, all of La seems to have
shown up for this, despite the fact that it's you know,
the second the second World Series. You know, I was
sitting there watching Game seven and Nick Hardwick was there,
who played a center for Philip Rivers for forever and

(03:01):
and then is now an offensive line coach for the Chargers,
and I said during the game, at some point, I just.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It just looks like the Blue Jays want it more.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And he did this like slow turn where he looks
at me, and he's gotten on me in the past.
He used to do the broadcast with Matt and the
Booth the first year when the Chargers came over, and
so he's used to me being a super fan and
up and down and emotional and all the things. So
he just kind of slow turns to me and after
I said, this just seems like they want it more,
and he says, what do you mean, What does that

(03:32):
even mean? Like as a player, what are you talking about?
And I was like, you know what, You're right, Like
that doesn't make a lot of sense. He's like, everyone's
in the World Series want it. What do you what
are you even pointing to to say that? I was like,
you know what, you are right, Sometimes you need another perspective.
And then yesterday morning, I'm trying to get my suitcase

(03:54):
closed and it's not closing, and I'm trying everything, and
I was like, you just don't want enough, Shannon.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Do you You weren't at one hundred percent?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I wasn't, and so I got that thing closed. But
it really pointed out like a nice perspective for a
fan to hear, like they all want it. This fan
base wants it just as much as the Toronto fan
base wanted it. These guys on these buses wanted it
just as much as the Blue Jays wanted it, despite
not having a hat it since nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
There's Dave Roberts.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Now, if you could name a World Series MVP that
wasn't named Yamamoto, you would name Dave Roberts.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think Miggy had an argument for a coming out.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
He played two games, fine.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
But those two plays that that short hop he took
a second base from the home runs the game pe.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Situation, you gotta you gotta Yamamoto photo game.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's a completely different quick one thing.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
I'm a politician, which means the kids that hit the phones,
I'm we got.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
The real problem is that our leader are done.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
The other side never quits.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So what.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
I'm not going anywhere?

Speaker 6 (05:06):
So that is how you.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
Train the squaw.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
at president. They're not stupid.

Speaker 8 (05:15):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Haven people voted for you were na swap watch they're
all count well.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
The Trump administration did say in court filings today it's
going to use contingency funds to provide partial snap benefits
this month. Just on Friday, a judge had ordered the
Department of Agriculture to disperse funding for the program. Said
it was going to use all five billion in the
contingency funds, but that only covers about half of the month.

(05:44):
The administration said it would need another four billion in
other government funds to provide full snap benefits we all
know them as food stamps.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
That just happened today.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
A couple of things that will do In a few minutes,
we will talk about what's going on tomorrow's election day.
We obviously have Prop fifty here in California. There's a
couple governor's races and the mayor's race in New York
City that's worth watching. But there was a two things
I wanted to play for you. One of them was
President Trump yesterday on sixty minutes. They did an entire
They did like a ninety minute interview with him, but

(06:18):
only played about twenty minutes of it.

Speaker 9 (06:20):
Yeah, what was the story about the editing? I saw
some Well, so part of the settle member he sued CBS. Yes,
after the Kamala Harris interview. Yes, they paid him money
and promised.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't think it was part of the settlement, but
they did come out and say they would promise to
provide the entire transcript for any presidential candidate they interview.
He's not a candidate, but they did put out the
entire transcript so that they could see it, and he
talked about, hey, you know, you guys paid me a
lot of money.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Don't forget that.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
And actually, sixty minutes paid me a lot of money,
and you don't have to put this on because I
don't want to embarrass you.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
And I'm sure you're not.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
You have a great I think you have a great
new leader, frankly, because the young woman that's leading your
whole enterprise is a great from what I know. I
don't know her, but hey, she's a great person. But
sixty Minutes was forced to pay me a lot of
money because they took her answer out.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
That was so bad it was election changing.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
So he got the propositions in. There are pronouns. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
He was referring to Barry Weiss, who the head of
the Free Press, who has now taken over for CBS News,
and he went on to say that he thinks CBS
is with new Ellison ownership, is going to be a
great bastion of free speech. The other thing that happened
over the weekend I'll play for you when we come back.
It was Gavin newsom answering the question do you want

(07:44):
to be president?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
My favorite thing about that interview was when Gavin Newsom said,
you know what I hate the most, and I'm paraphrasing,
I hate the most.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Some politicians just sit there and they just lie. They
just lie, lie, lie, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Like, he's so, tell me more about how you grew
up a poor white child in Marin City.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's easier here than it is in you know, Buffalo, right,
there's actually no reason not to.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Paint your entire tour. So the parade is in full swing.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
You've got to Dodger fans now cheering on the bus
loads double decker buses that are just erupting with blue
and white confetti as they walk by, waving massive blue
and white Dodger flags from the top deck. There all
the people below with their arms outstretched, screaming and hollering
out at their favorite players.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's a beautiful thing. Kids will remember this.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
They'll make their way through. Well, there's definitely remember.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
That time that they let me take off school and
go stand downtown LA.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Totally.

Speaker 10 (08:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
They will be going from downtown La, driving back up
the hill towards Dodgers Stadium and then do another event
at Dodger Stadium a little bit later, sometime, probably an
hour from now, is what they're saying. But these things
never really fall. I will schedule, and who cares. I mean,
it's not like they got to be back to work
anytime soon. Pitchers and catchers don't work for.

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from now to win one thousand dollars. It's the buses
look like they're listing a bit.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, it's just because the screen, the streets, they're all
broken in Los Angeles, they're not all evenly paved.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Not about to tip over.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Gavin Newsom gave an interview to meet the press yesterday
and Kristen Welker was the one who was interviewing him
when this gem came out.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You've said, as we've discussed, you are considering a run
for president, and you've said.

Speaker 10 (10:20):
You'll make a decision about whether to run for president
after the midterms.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, why do Governor? Let me ask you, why do
you want to be president?

Speaker 6 (10:28):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
I'm not suggesting, I am.

Speaker 10 (10:30):
I'm saying I would in response to someone talked about it.
And I hate when I nothing I dislike more than
the politician that sits there and lies to.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
You, and we all just sit there rolling our eyes.
Go and give me a break.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
That's why, just that last part, just just that little
middle part, just one more time, one more time, let
us sink in. Everybody breathed deep, and here we go.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Why do you want to be president?

Speaker 6 (10:55):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
I'm not suggesting, I am.

Speaker 10 (10:56):
I'm saying I would in response to someone talked about it.
I hate when nothing I dislike more than the politician
that sits there in lies to you and we all
just sit there, roll in.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Our eyes, go and give me a break.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Do you remember we talked about this a lot in
early twenty twenty four when there were some questions that
were coming up about whether Joe Biden was going to
be the candidate at the end in November, if the
Democrats were going to stick by this guy despite what
people were saying were his cognitive slips, his physical frailty,

(11:34):
and Gavin Newsom was asked over and over again if
he was going to get involved, and he kept saying,
I don't want to. I don't listen, I don't want
He kept backing away from any sort of responsibility when
it came to leading his party, and I said at
the time he wants to be in that position of
sort of the reluctant leader.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Gosh darn it. I mean, I don't want to, but
if I have to, I'll carry that mantle for us.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
He's recently last week when he went on that podcast
with former NBA players or whatever and said I grew
up like on this hard scramble life eating wonderbread. He's
just saying things like wonderbread because that's what we.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
All ate in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I didn't even get wonderbread generic wid why had like
wonderful bread the cheapest version of it exactly?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But that wasn't like something that poor people ate. He
doesn't even know how to act poor.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
He's exactly right bringing up the genera, Like the fact
that you had wonderbread actually says a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, like you just lied to us.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
That's that's such a tough thing to say, because guilty
eats watson Ham.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't care if you are, you know, the most
pure person.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
You don't get to become governor of California without telling
at least enough lies to fill all your fingers, you
know what I mean, Like you've lied repeatedly because you've
had to.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Sometimes deception is okay if the intention is pure.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I learned that from a rabbi on a fictional show
called Nobody Wants This.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
But it's true. That's so a fictional rabbi on a
fictional show.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
But I would put a.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Lot on the line in a wager that Gavin Newsom
has lied a number of times where the intention wasn't
completely purest.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
And I'm not saying he lied when he was banging
his best friend's wife or anything like that. But I
would assume that they were to do and blow off
the work desk speaking of election data, So there's anything
illegal about that?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
The cocaine part is illegal?

Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh well, cocaine in itself, I guess. I mean, if
you want to get down to it, well, well, cocaine
is from the earth. It's natural, you know, Okay, it
does come from me. It's not a synthetic drug, which
is absolutely Tony. I doesn't have a hard time calling
anything from the earth illegal.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
What's wrong with you? Speaking up?

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Tomorrow's election day in New York City, they're choosing a mayor.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
New survey came out that showed that.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Zoron Mandani's lead over Andrew Cuomo is now down to
just six and a half points. The other one is
whether or not Curtis Leewa was ever going to drop out.
Doesn't look like he will. New Jersey have has a
governor's race Democrat Mike Mickey Cheryl against Republican Jack Chittarelli,
and then in Virginia as well, they will elect whoever

(14:39):
wins will be the first female governor of the state
of Virginia Democrat Abigail Spanberger against Republican Winsome Earl Sears.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
So lock going on tomorrow, Lock going on, and a
lot going on downtown.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Michael Monks is going to join us in a couple
of minutes with the latest on what's going on with
the Dodger parade.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on tomand from KFI
A sporting.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Have you had a bacon wrapped hot dog yet? From
a vendor? Michael?

Speaker 8 (15:08):
No, I just passed them though. You know those little
hot dog vendors that show up outside every concert and event.
They showed up at this one too, of course they did.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
That's how come you haven't had?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Why is that shocking?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
No?

Speaker 8 (15:22):
I didn't take the heartburn medicine this morning, so I
can't risk it.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh man, Oh that's no good, okay, So tell us
how did it go? The players made their way down
the street. They're still towards the end of the parade
route now. But what was the reaction?

Speaker 8 (15:38):
You know it was? It was really interesting because this
one was an hours an hours long wait to catch
a glimpse of these players, and then that's what you
got a glimpse and it was over and and really
to call it a parade, I guess is technically true,
but not in the cultural sense that we associate parades
with longer than some performances and all that. There was

(15:58):
just a few vehicles with the Todgers on top of it.
But that's how rabid this fan base is, that's how
grateful this fan base is for what this team has
delivered for the second consecutive year. Just to catch a
glimpse of monky bets of show, Hey Otani, who's dreaming
in person? By the way, And it was a great,
great tay. The vibes were high, everyone was awesome.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, we were talking about these these players off the air,
and some of them you couldn't pick out of a
lineup as a professional athlete. Show Atani looks massive on television. Atani,
there's no mistaking him as a professional athlete.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
No, it's true. And I had the same thought while
I was watching these guys. And in our line of work,
you do tend to encounter people face to face, you
know that others only get to see on television or
in film, and sometimes as journalists you think, oh, this
guy's not so big, or this guy's not so different
than you know, the people I work with. And I

(16:54):
did notice that a bit. On the float, you just
see a bunch of young guys right in their you know,
regular core. Oh and they do look completely different in
their context, frankly, not so big. But when they're lifted
up on top of that platform and celebrated as champions,
they're may be bigger in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
So what was the reaction from the crowd. Did you
talk to people? Was it all worth it? Oh?

Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yeah, that's exactly what they were saying. And I kept asking,
because I mean, I talked to folks who came in
from Chino. I just talked to a father and son
that came in from San Bernardino this morning, and you
know there's gonna be long drives of the early morning
rush hour commute, and they said it was absolutely worth it.
I mean, to sit there for hours to see the
Dodgers for about ten minutes, ten minutes and that's it.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
What a fun day though, you know, because then you're downtown.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
There's a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Places you can go and grab lunch, grab a couple
of beers, whatever. The camaraderie is instant. Suddenly you've got
all these strangers who are your friends because you've got
a commonality and being a Dodger fan.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Is that Keik with a shirt off?

Speaker 5 (18:03):
O God, he is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Key K at the front of the bus like Leo
DiCaprio the world there without his shirt on.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
He's lucky.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Sorry sorry, Magic Johnson just no good.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
Yeah, oh yeah, Magic Johnson was in the front. I
was looking and that was very exciting to see Magic
Johnson leading, leading the parade. But here's the deal. The
streets are cleared after the parade passes your section, so
it's time to get a move on, and the people
are getting a move on. So now you've just unleashed
maybe tens of thousands of people who are going to

(18:43):
be clogging up the downtown streets and the freeways and
the metro system. And so aside from the celebratory mood,
everybody's inn just be aware that's some traffic congestion is
probably on the way.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Yeah, that's gonna be fun getting out of there.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
But there are headed to Dodger Stadium where they're going
to do their big on field ceremony a little bit later.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Michael, great stuff, Thank you. I hope you found a
for my pleasure.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
That and this.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Beautiful loose guys.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
I mean that.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, it's gorgeous. It's perfect storybook sequel, better than the original.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
They could be one of the very few teams to
go for a three peat. Very tough to get there,
it's very tough to get where they are now.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
It is it is, Yeah, I mean, I just meant
to get to a world series period, let alone back
to back, let alone a three repeat. Yeah, I mean
there's pretty much no chance in hell, So enjoy it today,
all right when we come back.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
The future of coffee may not be that Starbucks cup
that you're using.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I hope not. I hope the future of coffee is
a hell of a lot cheaper.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
My god, what a what a burglary that's committed at
Starbucks nationwide, a city wide every day?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
You want how much for this? Come on?

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Can you just leave it? If?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, you're like actually never on the second thought, No,
I've done that. I think we've talked about it.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I've done that at the airport where you like get
what you think is just like an orange juice, Oh yes,
and they ring it up and they're like at seventeen
thirty seven, and you're like, I'm sorry, what, no, thank you, goodbye,
have a nice day.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Gary and Shannon will continue.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Next hour, we got our Gas Fantasy for play recap.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Somebody had asked why we don't do more check in
with Shannon's sideline reporting, So we'll do that next hour.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh is that right? Okay? They were serious, Well like,
what kind of check in?

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Well, let me make sure I get the I don't
want to put let me I have it right.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Hey, with all this Dodger talk going on, why don't
we ever have Shannon's sideline report? Got a big game
come and Gippings to Steelers? True, and we've got our
third offensive line? We do we can't talk about that.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Well, I think that what you're going to see.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Don't give it away. Oh okay, don't give it away.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
All right?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
That's coming up twenty.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
That one guy will be the only person that wants
to hear that.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
You and I both lived in Seattle at arguably one
of the more magical times for that city. At Amazon, Microsoft, Starbucks,
they were all on the on the come, if you
want to call it, you use a gambling reference.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
They were doing very well.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
And ever since Howard Schultz turned it from that one
individual shop there at Pike Place Market into a huge
global powerhouse. There are seventeen thousand stores not worldwide. There
are seventeen thousand Starbucks in the United States, and very

(22:00):
few companies have managed that leap from from regional favorite
to a national brand. You had the Seattle's Best for
a while, You had was it Pete's Coffee, and a
couple others that kind of made their way, but nobody
could compete with Starbucks.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Look to gen Z to find that to no longer
be the case. The market is being driven by evolving tastes,
especially among members of gen Z that may not like Starbucks.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
No brand captures the shift better. And you know this.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
You have a young daughter Dutch Brothers. You've waited probably
in a Dutch Brother's drive through line before. What's special
about Dutch Brothers. Is it the dessert and a cup
type of a place that.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
It's the attitude.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I mean, what I notice about it is the little
over the top, but the just the down to earth, like,
hey bro, it's up attitude. The corporate Starbucks, Yes, got it.
It's less forced than you would find perhaps in the Starbucks. Okay,
but yes, the dessert and a cup. They had hundreds
of different options, and all of them are seven thousand calories.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Right right, They say more than food, coffee preferences diverge
sharply by generation. Logan Reich is an analyst at RBC
Capital Markets. He says, everyone likes a chicken sandwich, but
while older consumers still drink hot black coffee, younger ones

(23:27):
gravitate toward colorful energy drinks and ice concoctions that look
perfectly drizzled with caramel on TikTok. Dutch Brothers is positioned
at the crossroads of those shifting habits.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
And do we say Dutch Brothers or Dutch bros.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Oh, I am not the authority at all, Rosy, excuse me,
I've been screwing it up. Then, I've never been that,
I've never been. I'm just intim I'm not intimidated by
the line. I'm completely turned off by waiting for anything,
let alone an overpriced cup of coffee.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
It's also in a situation where they rarely plan correctly.
You know, Trader Joe's has a parking theory philosophy in
and outs have to have specific ingress and egress routes
when you're because they just they just develop lines. Dutch
bros Is very similar to that. They'll put them in

(24:24):
the wrong place and they'll back up traffic regularly.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Do you grow out of the dessert and a cup
drizzled with caramel and whipped cream or do you just
keep getting hooked on it until you get obese and
then you get ozepic and then you're over it and
the next generation gets hooked on them.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's a good question because what my parents never really
My dad was a big sugar in his coffee guy,
but that was it.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
No milk or anything, it's just sugar.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
My mom got into those really bad little tiny cups
of fake creamer that were flavored like the French vanilla
or the Diesel nut or something like that. But I
don't remember there ever. I don't remember smelling anything other
than just coffee. So it was never I was never
really into coffee until well Africa.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's definitely not a thing we grew up with. It's
definitely a thing that happened. I think when I lived
in in Seattle is when they started with all the
frappuccino stuff. And that was two thousand and four. I
mean it wasn't the very beginning, but it was where
it started picking up some steam. And you have it
at Pete's and Tully's and Starbucks, these like dessert and

(25:28):
my cup type things.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I love Tully and I do remember some of those
first living in Seattle, the first.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Sugary coffee milk shaky kind of concoctions, and thought, well,
I can get coffee and.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Have desserted at the same time.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
I'm in I know.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
But the thing is, as much as I love it,
it's a it is definitely a crash that exists. It's
and it's not a good one. I can't take it.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
It makes me sad.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
It does it make because I realized that feeling, it's
the physical feeling of or or. As an example, if
I'm doing rehearsals for this show, right, it's a long day,
and they'll put out snacks, right, everyone's like a little
bag of nuts or some Snickers bar, some someone's left
over Halloween canny, and I go, you know what, two
little baby snickers isn't gonna hurt me. And then I'll

(26:21):
have six and then like an hour and a half later,
feel sad? Yeah, I feel man, you so sad? Probably
definitely nondu cocaine.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
And then I go, why did I feel so sad?
And then I remember I had six snicks.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You know what helps is smoking a little weed to
calm down. So it does it lessen my It does it,
just it smooths it out. It's smooth, smoother landing. Yeah,
I'm not jamming the wheels into the into the runway, right.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
You can't go from six snicker bars to nothing?

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Bro, Man, why am I so sad? You've been listening
to the Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
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