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August 28, 2025 31 mins
Emmanuel Haro’s dad declares wife innocent, says ‘God is with us’ in jail interview. Employees are back, bosses say. In California? Not so much. Heather Brooker: TV Producers Flock to California’s Expanded Tax Credit. Bird not seen in California for 30 years spotted off S.F. coast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Do you have a tax appointment today? Forgot about that? Oh,
you haven't done your taxes taxes yet.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Well, they gave everybody in La County the extension until
October fifty. And this is a new place, new place. Okay,
recommendation from somebody. So hopeful what do you mean hopeful?
Am I hopeful that they'll get done? Sure, they'll get done. Well,
I hope that's sort of a refund or something like that.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hopeful that they're that they're on time, that they're efficient,
that they don't ask too many questions or pretend to
care too much. You get in, you get out. That's
what I hope for a tax appointment.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's a good quest.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I haven't even I haven't poured a whole lot of
brain space into that. Internationally story overnight out of Ukraine,
Russia pounded Kiev with some deadly missiles and more drone strikes.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Early today.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
At least eighteen people, four of them children, killed in
the capital Kiev. Strikes damaged the European Union's mission building
and the British Council.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Offices in Kiev as well.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
So the EU and London summoned the Russian envoys to protest.
No reports of casualties at those European sites, but again,
eighteen people killed in Kiev, including four kids.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
This bird that we're going to talk about later in
the hour, the bird who hadn't been seen in California
for thirty years that's been spotted. Is this the same
bird that Michelle sent me a story about earlier, about
the sex beat. It's like a sex beast bird.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't know. I don't know what Michelle sends you.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
What. Well, let me just see what she sent me,
because I also think it had said something about not
being around for thirty years. Okay, here's what she sent me.
Bird known for rambunctious sex parties spotted in San Francisco.
And then it said that, and then there was another bird.

(01:57):
This bird turns up in San Francisco too. I'm assuming
it's the same bird. Yeah, because the sex bird hasn't
been spotted for thirty years either.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You belong to some weird newsgroups. I'll just say that.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
The nightmare story that came to us from the Inland Empire.
The story of little seven month old Emmanuel Harrow and
is apparently depraved adults of parents who likely killed him
and hid his body. Both of the parents have now
given jailhouse interviews. Do you know who doesn't like jailhouse interviews?

(02:35):
Lawyers the defense, so there is no chance that whatever
attorneys were working with them are still working with them.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
This forty five minute interview that.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Jake Harrow dad gave to the Southern California news group
the OC Register was it took place while he's sitting
inside the Larry Smith Correctional Facality and banning. In this interview,
Jake admitted his attorney advised him to avoid the press,

(03:05):
saying that while he wanted to talk about Emmanuel's disappearance,
he couldn't. He did, however, say that the assertion that
Immanuel was the victim of repeated abuse was untrue, and
spoke at length about his prior felony conviction for child cruelty.
He claimed he accidentally dropped his daughter Carolina on a
sink divider while giving her a bath, but when the

(03:27):
ten week old girl's mother, Vanessa Ruster, to the hospital
that night, doctors found much more serious injuries, including a
skull fracture, fractured ribs, brain hemorrhage, and evidence of other
injuries that were healing. So this guy likes to beat
up babies. This guy likes to be with women who
look the other way when he beats up babies. Speaking

(03:47):
of the women in his life, he told a reporter
that his current wife, the one who stood by while
he or she killed their seven month old baby, that
his wife is a beautiful woman. He loves her children,
and the media is killing her.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Really, No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, you all killed your baby son. No one's killing
your beautiful wife, who is a monster. By the way,
she's an a hole. She lied to the cops and
said the little boy was kidnapped by a man she
saw that never existed. Your wife is a monster, just
like you. You look for monsters, you find them, you
make babies with them, and then you try to kill them.

(04:27):
You both should have no one speaking to you, let
alone the media.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
The media should not even give these people the time of.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Day, he said, did Dad, God is with us? The
allegations are horrendous, so of course people are going to
be riled up now. The other reports that we told
you about yesterday, include one that he confessed to killing
Emmanuel to an undercover informant while he was in jail,
and that he put the child's body in a trash

(04:54):
can at their home. Of course, you remember on Sunday
there were images of Jake with det hectives and other
investigators searching for remains out in the Badlands area Marino Valley.
At the press conference yesterday, Mike Hester and the DA
in Riverside indicated that they have an idea of where
the child's remains are located, but they do not know specifically.

(05:17):
Both mom and Dad being held on a million dollars bail,
scheduled to appear in court again next week. Oh, Dad
had said to this reporter, By the way, he's hoping
he can raise enough money about one hundred thousand if
you're going to get out on bail, so that he
can be released from custody until trial.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm sorry, I don't know why anyone's talking to this person.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Would you do that as a reporter? No, not this.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
There are defendants, there are murderers that I would like
to talk to, to dig into to find you know, sure,
I put in those requests through the years when I
was a reporter into prisons and things like that. These people,
what the hell are you going to glean from baby killers?
People who kill their kids? What do you want to know?
What public value do we get from that? From their life,

(06:03):
from them getting another chance to pedal?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
More lies? There's lying?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Can we go back to the bird with the sex party?
We will, We'll get there.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
We might even get to We might even get some
org Dome news in there at some point later today.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, that's perfect because we're going to talk about the
orgy Dome not reopening. And then that rare bird. It's true,
this specific type of bird. They say that the breed
gathers around when one couple is engaged in making baby birds.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That let's see.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
The Audubon Society says these birds engage in rambunctious sex
parties in which groups of up to twenty crowd in
to watch a pair mate.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Does sound like the org dome, doesn't it? It takes
a village. It does not take a village.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
No, No, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
There's a doc to put this used a statement in
an article that I saw today saying that humans have
two hearts, basically two ways that we pump blood. One
of them, obviously, is our heart. The other part is
a part of our body that you don't think of
very much, but you use it all day, every day,

(07:22):
or you should use it all day every day. And
one of the reasons that he says some people are
having a hard time with whatever, you know, keeping weight
off or staying healthy, is because we're not using that
second heart as much as we should.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Is the second heart in my ice cream stomach? It
is not.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh, but we'll tell you like it's there. Next hour,
we'll tell you where that's second.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well with happiness, is that what that feeling is?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
All right?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, employees are back at work, but in California, not much.
Write a check to Petros for four dollars and thirty
five cents. That's what the settlement. That's what the settlement was.
Right now we go another four thirty five not much.
Now another forty thirty thirty five not much. Oh my gosh,

(08:14):
I'm just trying to get him here. You should have
heard what he wanted originally. What are we gonna do?
Hot dog Day? Too hot dog day. Oh yeah, it's
a big fight. It's a big fight between I thought.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
That was Oh oh, did I just pick sides accidentally?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, oh he did. Just that's kind of kids. But
I would just kids.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I would definitely pick Conway side because he's won six wars.
He's won six radio wars. You know, he was in
a war with Bill Carroll, and now where's Bill Carroll.
He's like somewhere up in the.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Nook great White. Yeah. But yeah, it's a big radio wars.
I feel like there's a piece of history. I'm not.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, it's like, I mean, you know, we coming off
fresh off the you know, Trump solving six wars.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Conway's won six wars. Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Recent survey shows that people are not coming back to
work in California, that we're the ones dragging down the
rest of the country. Companies stepping up enforcement, of course,
their attendance policies that came back after COVID, for example,
but the National Survey of Office Tenants by the real
estate brokerage firm CBRE finds that companies did make significant

(09:31):
progress in moving toward their office attendance goals, moving closer
to cementing their long term work guidelines. About seventy two
percent of companies say they have met their attendance goals.
That's up from sixty one percent previously, But a separate
indicator shows office visits are stuck below the national average.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Here in California, Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And San Francisco metro areas still have some of the
lowest office attendants in the country. Business in these areas
is dominated by entertainment and tech, which can be more
free wheeling, which is true. A lot of that's freelance
for the most part. In entertainment, it's things that are done,
you know, by appointment. It's not like your classic nine

(10:11):
to five job. In the entertainment industry, and tech you
can do from anywhere because it's.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Tech, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
They said in the week that ended August twenty if
the average office population was about forty eight percent of
full occupancy in La less than that forty two percent
in San Francisco, forty nine percent in San Jose, well below, sorry,
well above the lows that were down below twenty percent
during the pandemic, but still behind places like New York

(10:40):
and Chicago, and far behind places in Texas. In Texas,
they have more than sixty percent office attendance.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now, part of this is more.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
A part of these numbers are the bad state that
commercial real estate is in in general. I mean this building,
it's kind of a mirror image of ours right next
to us. There hasn't been a body in that building
in a couple of years. Brand well it's not brand.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
New years, but this it was inovations or fifteen years,
I think right before the pandemic. It was like switching
tenants or something, and then it was empty, and then
the renovations were stalled, and then they were done, and
still nobody's in there.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Nobody is in there in any other was that five
six floors.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Whatever it is?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
But I guess there's no overhead to the building just
living there right. Maintenance must be very little.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, nobody's picking up trash.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
No.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
The CBRE annual survey, the most notable change was the
level of enforcement of back to office policies. The share
of companies that monitor attendants jumped to sixty nine percent
this year from forty five percent last year. The idea
that the idea that they're enforcing a an attendance or

(12:01):
they're they're taking attendance seems a little bit juvenile, that
we as adults can't even come to the office, that
they have to check and see if we're coming to
the office. More than half of organizations reported that a
lack of office vibrancy on non peak attendance days is
a central challenge. You ever feel that lack of way

(12:22):
You walk into the office and it's just a morgue.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Sometimes I feel like it's a morning game in Jacksonville
and you just got to bring your own energy.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, you know, you just gotta bring it. You got
to be like, Okay, we've got.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Two four and twelve teams meeting here today, and you
just got you gotta bring your own You got to
hit the smelling salts that you yourself purchased. No one
arounds You're going to be excited to be there, So
you got to bring it in your heart.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
They did say that there's one specific area of LA
that's doing better than others, and they point to Century City.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Century City is booming, that f one movie over there
are screening at the mall, and commerce was thriving. There
were people in that Century City mall. There were restaurants
that were bustling, it was business as usual and business
was doing well.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
They described Century City as LA's hottest and most expensive
office rental market, known for elegant office towers full of
financial companies and lawyers, and that that is doing better
than most.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, there's this one problem with Century City getting there
and leaving there, no thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Downtown LA has fifty four This is to give you
an idea of the temperature of commercial real estate. Downtown
LA has fifty four office buildings that are at immediate
risk of devaluation and could result in about seventy billion
b seventy billion in lost value over the next ten years.
And that could lead to about three hundred and fifty

(13:54):
million in lost property tax revenues because the value of
those buildings is going down. Nobody wants to Nobody wants
to get in there.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Speaking of nobody wants to get in there. Did you
see the orgy Dome or what's left of it at
Burning Man for the first time?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Maybe you're able to see inside the orgy Dome.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Didn't want to and it does not look like a
place where you would want to engage in sex with strangers.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Doesn't look you wouldn't want to engage with sex with anybody.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
You wouldn't want to engage eating a taco in this place.
It looks like a dirty, old big tent, not even
a nice tent with.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Are those like cardboard couches? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I mean that's like your cheapest couch you ever got
from Ikea for you know, one hundred dollars. One hundred
and fifty nine dollars was a luxurye.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Compared to these couches, it has a flat surface so
you can wipe them down.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Oh, Canna, You're welcome. She hates love, She hates love.
Heather Brooker is also going to joine. We'll talk about
the potential for the expanded tax credit to actually bring
productions back to California.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's coming up next.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Gavin Newsom making headlines his description of what's the problem
with the Democratic Party was at a Politico event and
he was on stage and spoke for about an hour,
and we'll talk about that. Lisa Cook, a governor on
the Fed Reserve Board, is suing President Trump over his
decision to fire her from the Central Bank. This lawsuit

(15:37):
sets the stage for pretty important legal battle. The lawsuit
also lists, by the way, the Fed Reserve and Jerome Powell,
the chair of the Fed Reserve, as defendants.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Right alongside, right alongside President Trump.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
North Korea's leader Kim Jong un is planning to join
Vladimir Putin at a grand military parade in China next week.
This parade's going to be hosted by Hu Jinping. Said
to be the first trio event. Speaking of trilateral These
three guys together, pretty powerful optics.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Trilap, trylap, everyone's saying it. Heather Brooker has joined us
and we usually get to talk to Heather on Fridays
for an entertainment report.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
This is also entertainment related, yes, but the money, the
dollar signs behind entertainment.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah, so this is good news. We're finding out that
now twenty two productions have been greenlit or given the
go ahead of the tax incentive from the new film
and TV tax credit that was just passed in July.
So of course all the powers that be are touting
that this is going to start bringing more jobs in.
I think they're estimating, and I honestly don't know how

(16:47):
they come up with this number, but they estimate these
twenty two shows alone, are these twenty two projects will
bring one point one billion dollars back into the LA
economy sixty five hundred jobs. These are shows that are
going to be given across different platforms, from half hour
comedies to longer features to animated shows, that sort of thing.

(17:09):
So it's it's good news. We're finally going to see
some movement off of this tax credit that we've been
talking about for so long.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
So stick Owen Wilson's show on Apple TV plus former
pro Golfer.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
We both tried to get into that I couldn't get
it into.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
We couldn't either kind of fell flat for me at
least is one of the projects getting the first round
of tax breaks available now.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
This one.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
This show will receive a forty percent credit, the highest
percentage allowed because it's moving from outside the state. This
is one of those examples of what we didn't think
would happen, where a show is producing or doing all
the shooting, all the things outside of the state and
will never come back because it's easier, it's cheaper, and
it's great. This was a show filmed in Vancouver, British Columbia,

(17:57):
which doubled for Indiana and other locale in the Midwest,
but it's going to come back.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah, So that's one thing that's one aspect of this
that's happening. Another show that's coming back, one of Gary's favorites,
Tom Segura's show, Yes, Bad Thoughts, is going to be
moving from Texas back here to LA And the reason
they're doing that is because there's a separate part of
the film and TV tax credit that gives them a
little extra money if they a little extra credit if

(18:24):
they come back from other places.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Side note, I didn't know Bad Thoughts was getting another season.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, and I am thrilled you're into it. Oh my god.
I love that show.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I told I was very shame, like full of shame
when I would tell people how much I loved it.
It's it's very dark and very dirty, but I loved it.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
It's not for everyone. It's a very niche kind of
dark comedy show. So if you like that, then that's
all your did. Well, it's going to be filming here.
Maybe you can be on.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
It, but I shouldn't want to get that close to it.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
I'm not like you as an address. I want to
be an It's well, no, I don't. I've read some
of the scripts this.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Politically speaking, can this be a victory lap for Gavin
Newsom or I think so.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
I think so because a lot of major productions the
studio is going to be getting the incentive, and that
is a very LA centric show on Apple TV. Plus
they're going to continue to film here instead of going
somewhere else, So that's jobs that'll stay here. Larry David's
new show on HBO is going to be filming here.
Kenya Barris is an LA native. He wants to film

(19:31):
his new show here. He was one of the ones
that is going to be having his new show film
here as well. So I would say, yeah, for sure
a victory lap because productions are here, productions are coming
back from other places. One other element to all of
this that is going to be a win and ultimately
bring I think more people back into La is happening

(19:51):
in Atlanta. So there's reports right now that Marvel, which
has been set up shop in Atlanta and basically build
these massive studios there, and a whole industry built grew
up out of these Marvel studios in Atlanta. Well, they're
moving the majority of their productions now to the UK
because it's cheaper, they don't have to pay health insurance.

(20:14):
There's certain rules and regulations that they don't have in
the UK that we have here. So now Marvel is
going to be saving a ton of money and they're
already leaving Atlanta. The studios there are like ghost towns
or hand reports.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
They're just dead and may be too early to diagnose this,
But is this too little too late? I know it's
a massive amount of money, but the amount of productions,
the number of people who have moved out of state
to follow where the productions have gone, there's got to
be an aspect of it that, you know, over the
course of the next year or two, we'll see if
it is too little too late.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
I think what I'm hearing, and you know, a lot
of the people I talk to about this want to
be in California. They want to be in Los Angeles.
They want to be working in southern California. It's why
they moved out here in the first place. You know,
people come here to follow that dream and they want
to live their dream in Hollywood. I don't think it's
too far fetched to think that with this additional tax

(21:08):
credit motivation out there and already shows that are happening
to think that people will start coming back. I don't
think that it's too late in that Will we ever
get back to where we were maybe in the eighties
or nineties, I don't know. I don't think so. I
think there's so many other places that people can film now,

(21:28):
like the UK where they don't have to provide everybody
health insurance because they have health insurance provided already for
the people there. So I think we're definitely going to
see a bump. I think it's going to be good
for people who are still here, who stuck it out
and who are you waiting it out. Their jobs are
going to be ready to go. They're going to be
applying like crazy. But to see the fact that there's

(21:49):
been a four hundred percent increase in applications for the
film and TV tax credit is a very good sign.
That means there's people producers want to work here. They
have their shows ready to go, they're project ready to go.
That means jobs are just around the corner. So I
hope it's not too late. Lit Gary doesn't believe.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'm cautiously optimistic, same me too. How is the party?
Oh my god, it was so good.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
It looked great. Your dress was beautiful, but go on.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
It was just perfect.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Heather went to the Downtown Abbey.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
It was like a screaming yeah yeah. The screening and
there was a special surprise, like the one of the
actors came out. His name is Alan Leech. She played
Tom the driver in the series. He came out and
greeted the crowd and it was it was fun. I
was trying to decide, like how over the top to dress?

(22:45):
I think you nailed it. I was like, I'm I
am a I'm a downstairs gal who wants to look upstairs.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So I guess I love that dress like in the
real life. But it was perfect for the event.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
That's why I was hoping. I was like, there were
some people that were in full flappers. People were like
full Bridgerton regalia, and I was like, that's the wrong
time period.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
We let it slide.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Held it very Carrie Bradshaw in her best era.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I don't even know what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
What why don't you follow me?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I'm a Graham kid, I do. I just didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Any dress, Oh I need to go.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
He doesn't spend a lot of time trolling social media.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
On the SOSH I went to the Downton Abbey screening.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well I got that part, yeah and Pop when Joe
showed up or what's his name?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Would you say? His name was Joe? Tom Mom, Yeah,
his name is Alan Leech. Pop in the audience, they're like,
oh my god, that's Joe.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
They all screamed Joe and he was like, that's not
my name, No, it was. There was a lot of excitement.
Everyone squealed surprise and delight. That's what some of these
events are all about. They like to surprise and delight people.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I would like somebody to squeal on this show with
surprise and delight once in a while.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
If I came in here and did that, you guys
would be like, she's lost her damn mind.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
No. I tend to call in the people in the
world White Coach.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Like if I literally came in and was like.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
See that's bringing your own energy.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
True, you don't rely on anybody else. Now, Gary, thank
you containing spaceship right there. That's right.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I love that. I used to not that much lately,
but now it's just a white really gone. No, No,
it's just I don't really have time to really like
into the room set it. It's just it just happens.
How long have you all been together? Six months? Six months?
In the efforts already waning? No, oh god, No, I'm

(24:48):
just saying, like playing music though, that was like kind
of like in my bachelor days. I was like, Okay, dom,
I have a playlist. Yeah. Like now I'm just like,
does any woman want music playing?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think it's cool to play list or song like
sharing songs like women love that.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, there was there There shall be no music in
the Orgie Dome, the uh, the nasty, disgusting, gross Orgie
Dome at burning Man blew over in a window.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I had higher hopes for the Orgy Dome. Like, now
that I can see the inside of this thing, what.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Were you expecting? We're expecting like velvet couches and poofs,
what poofs poofs with the wedges stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, fluffy stuff, soft stuff, soft stuff. This looks very
This is drapery. A lot of drapery just.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Looks like cobbled together three quarter inch birch plywood.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I've built forts at eight years old that were more
impressive than this.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
And as as Kana points out, flat surfaces so that
they can be wiped, Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
That's not what I'm saying, you guys.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is just it's a flat surface because these couches
were made of cardboard.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
The good thing is they all blew over that thing
cannot operate, although.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You're assuming they wipe stuff up too.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You didn't see the whole thing about the rules, like
be courteous?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
No I did it?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, well, weird that I didn't read through the rules
at the orgy Dome. Tell me more of the literature
you've been consuming.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
They said that this offered an air conditioned sex positive
space where couples and groups would gather under very strict
consent rules. It's hosted thousands of people each year, as
many as eight thousand participants.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
In reason, how does consent go in the orgy Dome?
Aren't you consenting by entering?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't think you can go in alone, that's right,
And it's not that you have to do anything with
anybody else. It's that you, like you consent to being
Why I've watched a couple of movies or shows that
have been put together in recent years where the sex

(27:04):
consent stuff is depicted, And in one of the recent
movies slash shows, Yeah, the conversations and one of the
recent movie slash shows I watched and I don't remember
which one it was.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
It was either on HBO or Netflix or something like that,
you know, with involving twenty somethings and a girl and
a guy and they're hooking up and she's like it,
can I take off your pants?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
And he's like can I take off your shirt?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
And they're like, ooh, this consent stuff's pretty sexy and
it was cute, But it was the first times that
I'm seeing this consent to play out in the movie
of this, like can I do this? Because the whole
consent thing was just because you agree to hang out
with someone or even just make out with them, that's
not consent. You're not consenting to all the other things.
So watching this happen like in time, in real time,

(27:56):
with like each step is interesting and they're into it,
least in the movies.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's just this is the way that they they hook up.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
You know, they've been told that consent is important, not
like the animal your your generation were my generation.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
No, we read well nonverbal cues a lot better than Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, I mean when we first started talking about the
consent and how you know you have to ask with
each stage or you have to make sure it's okay.
But well, isn't that taking the sexy out of it?
Isn't that eliminating the romance? And what I was watching
in the movie Slash Shows.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Was the doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be,
it does not.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
A black plume flopped over the face of the rare
bird that showed up on the farrell On Islands. Crested
auklets are native to the Alaskan Islands and the East
and the Eastern Siberian area. Both male and females have
really bright orange and yellow bill and during breeding season

(29:03):
the little curly head plumage that flops down over their face.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
In courtship, the females bury their heads in the male's
tangerine scented necks. Oh that smells nice. What does your
neck smell like? Like baloney smells? It's known as rough.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I've been rubbing bolone on my neck. Would I look
at you? I think you smell like BLOONI miss you
miss a lot. It's known as.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Rough sniffing, and the males puff out their chests and
they honk.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
With Gusto, Gusto.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Anyway, these birds have not been seen for thirty years,
and now one has been spotted off the San Francisco coast.
They're known for what the Audubon Society calls rambunctious sex
parties in groups orgydom, in which groups of up to
twenty crowd in to watch a pair mate.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
The problem is the they found one on the Farallon Islands.
So now, yeah, so he's out there consenting to himself.
Apparently he's the only one seen for miles around, known
as a vagrant or a bird that somehow may drift
away from normal migration routes.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, well, did you hear about Ned the lefty snail?
Ned the lefty snail needs a mate?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
A lefty snail?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh yeah, I have to tell you about him coming
up because he's also lonely and in search of the mate.
Maybe could be one of those unlikely friendships where a
bird meets a snail and they figure out a way
to bang it out. I don't think that's gonna I
don't think that's I don't think that. Yeah, maybe they
can just be friends, better companionship.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I gotta sneeze.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Oh no, oh, here comes another one. It might be
a three day, it might be a three. Are you
sure just a two?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Just the two? Are you suppressing the third? I am?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I'm fighting it hard. I can't let you be right.
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