November 20, 2025 • 28 mins
L.A. County announces a major push to end veteran homelessness, raising big questions about what comes next. We look at new concerns over ADHD medications becoming a possible gateway for misuse, and ask whether air travel can ever truly be civil again. Plus—an unexpected visitor washes ashore: a sperm whale on Nantucket.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We were just talking about family dinners, especially when we
get into the holidays. Things that you can say, can't say,
Plans that you have going through their potential self medication
in order to get through.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Some of the some of the dinner time. So leave
us a talkback.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Saturdays here on KFI, he do. She's in for Shannon today.
You're actually going to be out and about on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I will I will be at Wendy's following Neil Savadra's
Fork Reports show as they launch into the Pastathon. It's
Pastathon season and Bill Handle will be out there with
Neil Savadra. I'll be following with my normal show Saturdays
with Tiffany. From that, Wendy's in Mission via Ho and
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(01:50):
if two people show, that's okay. I'll still give you
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Speaker 2 (01:56):
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Dot com slash postathon.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So this week, the La County Board of Supervisors wants
to create a plan to help homeless veterans get into
shelters into permanent housing quicker by cutting through this red
tape by telling county departments to work very closely with
state and federal service providers. Janis Hahn authored This plan
was approved Tuesday night with a four to zering vote.
(02:45):
The only one that the reason it wasn't five is
because Lindsay Horbath wasn't there. But Janis Han says, I
think it is a collective sin that people feel that
those who put their lives on the line for us
now find themselves sleeping on our streets. I am curious
as to why this wasn't done the week before, or
the month or the year before, ten year or thirty
(03:07):
years ago. I don't know why these things are allowed
to fester to the point where they've become endemic and
then we go, gosh, that's a really bad thing to
have men and women who served in the armed forces
incapable of either affording a home or living or have
mental health and substance abuse problems that the county, the state,
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the federal government doesn't come in and help.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Really positioned positions jenis Hahn and Lindsay Horrovath and these
supervisors to be the heroes of this situation.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
They've sat on it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
They've also been a part of these delays and the
red tape, and they now get the opportunity to turn
it around and go, look, we're fixing it, and conveniently
by the Olympics. Conveniently by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
No, just that event that's coming up pretty soon.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But again, they get to make themselves look like the
good guys, when in fact they've been instrumental in barring
these thousands of veterans from this stability.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
There is something to be said about actually having a goal.
And even if twenty twenty eight is that, I don't
want to say roadblock, if it's the finish line, that
the beginning of the Olympics is the finish line for
a lot of these programs that they're trying to implement,
whether it is to end homelessness or reduce homelessness, to
upgrade infrastructure, to make the airport better, whatever it is.
(04:38):
I have zero problem with there being a finish line
in sight, because that then gives bureaucrats, It gives the county,
it gives the city in the state, it gives them
an actual time and they know that there is a
crunch because if you just say we have a plan
to end homelessness, but there's no end date on it,
then all these things can slow.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It becomes ambiguous.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's ambiguous, there's no pressure, there's no urgency in it.
And I mean there should be urgency simply because we're
allowing these people to languish on the streets and you know,
and to live poor lives and in many cases die
on the street. We're allowing it to happen. And this,
I hope, is the kind of thing that would light
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a fire under the right people to get it done.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This kind of reminds me of when you set a goal,
let's say, and don't talk about this over the Thanksgiving dinner,
but say for weight loss, and you share with people,
you create accountability partners to hold you accountable.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
To stick to your goal.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
If you say it and you put it out there,
then you're allowing other people to then push you toward
that goal. All of these statements about cleaning the city streets,
ending homelessness, making sure that different services are fortified or solidified,
and saying it publicly allows the public to holde them accountable.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I hope it doesn't shoot them in the foot.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
There's another aspect of it that I think is harder
to get over, and that is there are mechanisms in
place that have been in place for years and in
some cases a couple of decades, that are hard to
pull up by the roots and discard you've got. And
we saw this from the from the city level as
well in terms of dealing with homelessness. There are organizations
(06:18):
that go, wait a minute, we've we've been getting millions.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Of dollars every year to do this. What are we
supposed to do now?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
If you're going to go somewhere else or have a
different plan or have a different plot. And the as
a tax payer, my reaction is, yeah, you've had years
and millions of dollars and the program has gotten worse.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So something is wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Right, right, three thousand and fifty veterans in LA County,
and that number is down since twenty twenty one about
a quarter or about twenty five percent. But three thousand
and those are just those who are accounted for.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
The number is.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Probably at least a few thousand more, and they are
hoping to continue to decrease that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We'll see a new article also today discusss ADHD medications
in kids, and for a lot of people who watch
their kids get put on these drugs, it's the beginning
of a lifetime of medication and it's not good.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's not healthy.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Tiffany Hobbs in for Shannon today. Are you a big
sports person?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I am?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I am Tonight Thursday night football bills at the Texans.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Neither of those teams, okay, appeal to all.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Clippers are in Orlando this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
If you're more basketball oriented baseball, you know, listen, we
still got ninety something days, eighty five days too long
till pitchers and catchers report. But MLB completed a new
three year media rights agreement or agreements, I should say,
with ESPN NBC is going to pick up the Sunday
night baseball games and then four wild card series out
(08:05):
of the postseason. There will also be a deal with Netflix.
Netflix is going to be paying about fifty million dollars
a year for the rights to air one game on
opening Night on the season's opening night, as well as
the Home Run Derby and the annual MLB at the
(08:27):
Field of Dreams game.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Get ready for your rates to go up fifty million
dollars for it three events and only two of them
are actually baseball games. That seems wasteful, but you know,
not one to check other people's pockets.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Netflix, yeez.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
A short time ago, we did an article.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We talked about an article that came out suggesting that
antidepressants that so many young people are on and I'm teenagers,
completely destroys whatever sexual development they had, the desire for sex,
It's gone, even after they stop the medications. There's an
article today in Wall Street Journal regarding the kids' kids
(09:10):
and I mean single digit seven, eight nine year olds
who are on pills for ADHD and that for so
many of them it begins what is a cascade of drugs? Now,
you work in the special education area, I do, so
I'm sure that you've had experience with kids that are
medicated or have problems like ADHD.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Absolutely, and of course there are concerns around over medicating
students or kids. There are concerns around under medicating or
not medicating kids. But at any rate, what I think
I've seen in my own experience is that a lot
of the kids who are on medication become pretty used
to that medication, and by the time they're able to
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find a supplement or something to add to their kind
of cache of medication, they do because they learn to
medicate themselves to control whatever it is is ailing them.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So it's this can.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Be these ADHD medications a foray into harder drug use.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They use Danielle Ganski as an example. This is a
girl in Philadelphia seven years old, when her academic performance
started to drop off a bit. She was bubbly, creative kid,
but was easily distracted. Schoolwork was sloppy, and the school said.
The school said to mom, she might want to go
see a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist diagnosed ADHD and prescribed a stimulant.
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Concerned that she might get kicked out if her focus
didn't improve, Mom agrees doesn't want to, but also doesn't
want her kid kicked out of this upscale private school
that she was in. The pills made Danielle agitated, moody
and angry, so instead of removing the pills, the doctor
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added a prescription for prozac.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So she's on.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Concerta for inattention, prozac for moodiness, and then throw on
top of that a lrazapam for anxiety. A very young
kid on those three very powerful medications.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
That's it's just impossible.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's impossible for a very young kid, if not someone older,
to then re establish a baseline for themselves. At that point,
you're so dependent on these uppers and downers and middle
of the road drugs to keep you afloat that if
you change any of that mixture, you can't function.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
This is really really something.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It seems like, I mean the way that you say it,
and I'm sure that there are doctors out there that
would be able to correct it or give it a
better and nowogy is it seems like you've got two
Jenga games on a scale, okay, and you're trying to
On the one side, you've got a Jenga tower that
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is the child's mental condition, whatever it is, positive, negative, inattentive, distracted, angry, anxious, depressed, whatever.
That's all on one side and on the other side
of that of a scale, you're trying to build a
Jenga tower that balances that out. And you're I mean,
like you said, you've got multiple different drugs that do
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different things, and if you take one out of the mix,
it's not just removing the things that that drug would
have done. It removes the or it accentuates the things
that it might have counteracted in the other drugs.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And what this study revealed is that kids who are
prescribed these ADHD medications. And this is not to say
I am definitely a proponent of doing what can be
done to help kids. I do have concerns about over medication,
but for kids who are on these ADHD meds, it shows,
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it has revealed that they are far more likely to
be prescribed additional psychiatric drugs over the next short period
of years. So the studies are correlating to needing more
and more medication. You're just pumping kids, pumping kids to
counteract the decrease and of efficacy or the other side
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effects that may happen. And then before you know it.
You have all these kids who are just again dysfunctional.
They're just hyper dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We'll talk more about this when we come back, because
I think there's so much more to what it is
that we, as the adults in the room are doing
to our kids.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six meters.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Still taking your talkback, So we'll get to it a
little bit later in the show today. But what do
you do to get through your holiday dinners? Do you
have a game plan that you have to get through?
You have things that you will not talk about as
a result of Uncle Fred or Aunt Bobby or whatever
it is that you can't talk about things with them.
(14:24):
Stocks are up today they were at least after this
delayed US jobs report added to a happy mood in
the markets, and Nvidia came out with a big earnings report. Also,
Walmart raised its sales forecast for the year. There were
also some new job numbers that came in job growth
that defied expectations in September. So the Dow had been
(14:46):
up about six hundred almost six hundred points earlier in
the day, and again it has dipped down below that
flat mark, and it's down two hundred points right now.
It's where it's been for the last to last hour
or so. Nipanny Hobbs has joined us. Shannon's out today
for vacation, but we're discussing this story that I thought
you might have a specific and unique perspective on, simply
(15:10):
because of your time your day job, which of course
is special ed teaching.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I do I have a unique perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Indeed, this is an article regarding kids on ADHD pills
and that this mental health providers frequently prescribe medications to
kids that then will find themselves on other medications down
the road, and there is I shouldn't say there's no concern,
(15:40):
but it doesn't appear that there's a lot of concern
about the impacts that these medications will have as these
kids grow up. And the one we did last week
was all about the sexual function of some teenagers that
have been on antipsychotic and anti anxiety drugs and that
stuff disappears their development even after they're off the medications.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And this Wall Street Journal kind of expose is really revealing,
and I think if people were to know what's really
being said in this and we're sharing it with you now,
and they have kids who are in this situation, they
would be extremely concerned. At one point, it says here
that clinical trials have shown that drugs that are prescribed
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to treat ADHD, including Riddlin and adderall are safe when
used in kind of isolated instances. So one drug here
and then that ends, and then maybe another drug here
and then that ends. But when you pair them together,
when you have multiple psychiatric drugs, the study shows that
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there's less known about the impact. So kids are on
multiple drugs at one time, and there's not a lot
of evidence that's been collected about whether or not this
is actually good for their overall cognitive of well being.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I okay, So in your position, totally defer this question
if you want to. But in your position, you're going
to see kids. Well, first of all, first question is
do you know if they're medicated or not?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Like it I do.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And in some cases you won't have guardians disclose maybe
the full amount or the type because there's a stigma.
There is a stigma, And nine times out of ten
we do know that kids are medicated.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
In your experience, have you ever seen a kid pre
medication post medication and thought to yourself, that's exactly what
that kid needs to get through.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, and then the vice versa of that as well,
kids on medication, kids come off and you see a
different child altogether, a child who has learned then to
function without all of these additives. So it works on
both sides. There are gains, there are positives, and then
sometimes these drugs can exacerbate things that may not be
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there or create disorders that may not have been there
prior to using the drugs.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, they do say that there are instances where, especially
combinations of drugs can lead to new symptoms that crop
up that aren't actually based in the child's brain.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They're not there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's that the drugs are creating this behavior or whatever,
this deficit, and then what.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Happens drugs are prescribed to treat the symptom.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now here's the other thing about this article that I
found interesting is the Wall Street Journal identified about five
thousand providers doctors who ordered eighty h drugs for at
least one hundred children each between twenty nineteen twenty twenty two,
and on average, they gave additional psychiatric drugs to twenty
five percent of their patients. There was a tiny number
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ordered to combinations at even higher rates, including one hundred
and twenty eight of those doctors. Now that again, that's
a small number out of five thousand, but one hundred
and twenty eight of them, we're prescribing combinations for more
than sixty percent of their patients. Again, you and I
are not doctors. No, we haven't done the medical research
necessary to make a full judgment on that. But just
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as a as a parent, it's a it's that is
a gigantic red flag. Yes, I know my kid is
struggling with insert name of thing here, and there are
drugs that can help, at least in the temporary they
can help, but down the road, do we have any
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idea what this means for them as an eighteen year old,
as a twenty eight year old, as a forty eight
year old.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
No, And the study in the Wall Street Journal is
proving that, And I think it's I think it needs
to be said that when we look at over the
counter prescription or over the counter drugs, say you're tailanaw
or your advil or anything like that, your niquil, there
are all these warnings on the back about prolonged use,
don't use it for longer than say days, seven days,
three days, whatever it may be. And we adhere to
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that because we respect what possibly could happen, and you
don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
But when it comes to.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
These psychiatric drugs, that goes out the window. Apparently you
can use it at nauseum, and the research does not
yet show what that will then cause after seventeen or
eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I do also think there's a general consensus that when
it comes to behavioral things like adhd ADD that a
lot of times it is a diagnosed thing. A doctor, psychiatrist,
whatever will come in and say your child has the
signs of this, and that there are so many other
environmental factors that can be altered, changed, taken away, et cetera. Yeh, tablet's, phones, whatever,
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video games that can change and rewire that kid's brain
to bring them into an area that would it makes
it easier for them to learn, It makes it easier
for them to behave and to sit still in the
simple things.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
But that removing or inserting different things into the environment
requires time and diligence and effort.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Drugs are quick quick, they're.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Quick all right, can air travel be civil?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Your Secretary of Transportation is asking everybody to say they're
pleases and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Their thank you at the airports.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I'll think about it.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Swamp Watch comes along.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
At the top of the hour, we'll talk about what's
going on in the world of politics in DC, Strange science,
of course. At twelve thirty, we'll talk a little bit
more about what we learned from NASA yesterday about three
I Atlas, of course, and next hour conversation about AI
generated audio content. It's a little too close to home here,
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it's going to be good, so that'll come up.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You're flying anywhere for the holidays.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I am not.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I am not going to subject myself to that kind
of situation. I'm keeping it close to the pavement, are.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You, Yes, My wife and I are flying on Sunday.
As a matter of fact, May the odds be ever
in your favor. I appreciate that Secretary of Transportation Sean
Duffy is calling on us, all of us, to exhibit
civility and manners so that we can return to the
golden era of travel.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It's calling on You Gary, not Me.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The Department of Transportation has put out a video that
shows a supercut of all of the craziest things we've
seen in airplane fuselages over the last say, four or
five years, highlight reel, highlight reel next to images from
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inside an airplane in the nineteen fifties or sixties or something,
where everybody's dressed up. Everybody, every guy is in a suit,
every woman is in a dress, and it's a different
it's a different thing now. Part of it is, I
assume air travel was relatively expensive back in the fifties
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and sixties, so you had that kind of set a
level in terms of who was available, who was going
to fly right because it was going to be a
little bit more expensive, and probably thought it was, you know,
worth getting dressed up for. He says, flying, This is
Sean Duff. Flying has become uncivilized. He posted on x
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a four hundred percent rise in outbursts on planes since
twenty nineteen, a doubling of unruly passenger events. A survey
shows that one in five flight attendants has experienced a
physical incident at work. And his message is very simple,
The golden age of travel begins with civility, and it
begins with us, each of us individually, be.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Nice, say please, say thank you. Bringing civility back I
think enhances the travel experience for everybody. And so sometimes
you just have to ask people, Hey, let's maybe go
back to an era where we didn't wear our pajamas
to the airport. We actually might dress up a little bit,
and if someone needs help putting their luggage up in
the overhead bin, help them out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I don't dress up, but I also don't dress down
for an airplane trip.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I think it's kind of Pollyanna ish for Shan Duffy
to think that your clothing will somehow prohibit you or
prevent you from launching a coke at the flight attendant.
If you're upset with the service, you're still going to
do it. If you're that kind of person.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, the clothes aren't going to change the insights now,
he asks. In a video that has made its way around,
he said, are you helping a pregnant woman put her
bag in the overhead bin? Are you dressing with respect?
Are you keeping control of your children? That one is tough.
I've flown with infants before, and I know that that
can be a hard thing.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Control is subjective.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
ID are you saying thank you to your flight attendants
and pilots? Are you saying please and thank you? In general?
I get laughed at because I still make eye contact
with the flight attendants while they're doing the safety demonstration.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Because I do that too, and now it really makes
people uncomfortable if you make I'm making eye contact with.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
You right now? Are you uncomfortable? I don't like it
You've been looking away.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
But it is a difference in what I think we
see now versus what we grew up with.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I can imagine my parents never I did not fly
in an airliner until I was twenty one, twenty two
years old. I think, wow, we just never traveled like that.
My parents never, We never did that. Okay, we didn't
go anywhere, no judge me. Maide in the state of California,
and that's drivable, no matter. Even in those places that
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were outside California, they considered them drivable.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I remember that in those time. It was so new
to me, even in my early twenties, that there was
a little bit of fear, not about the flying part,
but fear of I'm doing this wrong, or I'm going
to get lost in the airport, or I don't know
how this whole system works. But I had imagined that
if my parents were with me, they would require me, Hey,
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stop looking at your phone or reading your mag whatever
it is, pay attention to what they're doing. Not that
you know, I mean the chances of anything, actually that
I'm going to be required to land in water and
then you know, float the raft out of this side
of the plane or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
But it's simply a matter of respecting what they're doing.
You know that they are there as well. In they're
not just there to serve you a coke and a
rum and coke. Their whole purpose is for the safety
of the people on the on board, right, And I
agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I do think that it is a social experiment because
you look around and it's not generational. Everyone's on their phone,
everyone or many seem to have disinvested or whatever the
verb is there in decorum. It's just it's very individualistic,
very You're just going, You're doing your thing, and who
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cares whatever else happens outside of your bubble and Sean
Duffy thinks said if we just say thank you, that
this will all go away and things will get better.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
There is also an aspect to air travel that is
forgotten a lot of times, which is, in any given
day in the United States, thousands of airplane flights thousands,
and the vast majority of them go off without a hitch.
They go out on time, they arrive of even a
few minutes early. It's those rare instances where we have
a major issue, whether it's a computer issue, which is unusual,
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a weather issue, which is much more common that even
in those instances, we have to remember I have flown
forty seven times in the last ten years and have
never had a problem. This one time where my flight
is delayed by two hours because there's a snowstorm in Denver,
and I get to lose my mind.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
No, you gotta keep that in check.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And social media plays a part. People are uploading rapid speed.
You see a lot more doesn't mean that more is
necessarily happening for you.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
We were just talking about family dinners, especially when we
get into the holidays. Things that you can say, can't say,
Plans that you have going through their potential self medication
in order to get through.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Some of the some of the dinner time. So leave
us a talkback.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Saturdays here on KFI, he do. She's in for Shannon today.
You're actually going to be out and about on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I will I will be at Wendy's following Neil Savadra's
Fork Reports show as they launch into the Pastathon. It's
Pastathon season and Bill Handle will be out there with
Neil Savadra. I'll be following with my normal show Saturdays
with Tiffany. From that, Wendy's in Mission via Ho and
so I'm really excited hope to see people there. You know,
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if two people show, that's okay. I'll still give you
the best show possible. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But yeah, Saturday, that's gonna be Saturday and all of it,
of course, to benefit and bring attention to Postathon Postathon itself.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The event.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
The broadcast will be December second, on Giving Tuesday, from
the Anaheim White House Restaurant in Anaheim on South Anaheim Boulevard.
So all of the information about Postathon and appearances and
where you can donate and how to donate kfiam six forty.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Dot com slash postathon.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So this week, the La County Board of Supervisors wants
to create a plan to help homeless veterans get into
shelters into permanent housing quicker by cutting through this red
tape by telling county departments to work very closely with
state and federal service providers. Janis Hahn authored This plan
was approved Tuesday night with a four to zering vote.
(02:45):
The only one that the reason it wasn't five is
because Lindsay Horbath wasn't there. But Janis Han says, I
think it is a collective sin that people feel that
those who put their lives on the line for us
now find themselves sleeping on our streets. I am curious
as to why this wasn't done the week before, or
the month or the year before, ten year or thirty
(03:07):
years ago. I don't know why these things are allowed
to fester to the point where they've become endemic and
then we go, gosh, that's a really bad thing to
have men and women who served in the armed forces
incapable of either affording a home or living or have
mental health and substance abuse problems that the county, the state,
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the federal government doesn't come in and help.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Really positioned positions jenis Hahn and Lindsay Horrovath and these
supervisors to be the heroes of this situation.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
They've sat on it.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
They've also been a part of these delays and the
red tape, and they now get the opportunity to turn
it around and go, look, we're fixing it, and conveniently
by the Olympics. Conveniently by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Oh, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
No, just that event that's coming up pretty soon.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But again, they get to make themselves look like the
good guys, when in fact they've been instrumental in barring
these thousands of veterans from this stability.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
There is something to be said about actually having a goal.
And even if twenty twenty eight is that, I don't
want to say roadblock, if it's the finish line, that
the beginning of the Olympics is the finish line for
a lot of these programs that they're trying to implement,
whether it is to end homelessness or reduce homelessness, to
upgrade infrastructure, to make the airport better, whatever it is.
(04:38):
I have zero problem with there being a finish line
in sight, because that then gives bureaucrats, It gives the county,
it gives the city in the state, it gives them
an actual time and they know that there is a
crunch because if you just say we have a plan
to end homelessness, but there's no end date on it,
then all these things can slow.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It becomes ambiguous.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's ambiguous, there's no pressure, there's no urgency in it.
And I mean there should be urgency simply because we're
allowing these people to languish on the streets and you know,
and to live poor lives and in many cases die
on the street. We're allowing it to happen. And this,
I hope, is the kind of thing that would light
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a fire under the right people to get it done.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This kind of reminds me of when you set a goal,
let's say, and don't talk about this over the Thanksgiving dinner,
but say for weight loss, and you share with people,
you create accountability partners to hold you accountable.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
To stick to your goal.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
If you say it and you put it out there,
then you're allowing other people to then push you toward
that goal. All of these statements about cleaning the city streets,
ending homelessness, making sure that different services are fortified or solidified,
and saying it publicly allows the public to holde them accountable.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I hope it doesn't shoot them in the foot.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
There's another aspect of it that I think is harder
to get over, and that is there are mechanisms in
place that have been in place for years and in
some cases a couple of decades, that are hard to
pull up by the roots and discard you've got. And
we saw this from the from the city level as
well in terms of dealing with homelessness. There are organizations
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that go, wait a minute, we've we've been getting millions.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Of dollars every year to do this. What are we
supposed to do now?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
If you're going to go somewhere else or have a
different plan or have a different plot. And the as
a tax payer, my reaction is, yeah, you've had years
and millions of dollars and the program has gotten worse.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So something is wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Right, right, three thousand and fifty veterans in LA County,
and that number is down since twenty twenty one about
a quarter or about twenty five percent. But three thousand
and those are just those who are accounted for.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
The number is.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Probably at least a few thousand more, and they are
hoping to continue to decrease that.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We'll see a new article also today discusss ADHD medications
in kids, and for a lot of people who watch
their kids get put on these drugs, it's the beginning
of a lifetime of medication and it's not good.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's not healthy.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Tiffany Hobbs in for Shannon today. Are you a big
sports person?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I am?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I am Tonight Thursday night football bills at the Texans.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Neither of those teams, okay, appeal to all.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Clippers are in Orlando this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
If you're more basketball oriented baseball, you know, listen, we
still got ninety something days, eighty five days too long
till pitchers and catchers report. But MLB completed a new
three year media rights agreement or agreements, I should say,
with ESPN NBC is going to pick up the Sunday
night baseball games and then four wild card series out
(08:05):
of the postseason. There will also be a deal with Netflix.
Netflix is going to be paying about fifty million dollars
a year for the rights to air one game on
opening Night on the season's opening night, as well as
the Home Run Derby and the annual MLB at the
(08:27):
Field of Dreams game.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Get ready for your rates to go up fifty million
dollars for it three events and only two of them
are actually baseball games. That seems wasteful, but you know,
not one to check other people's pockets.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Netflix, yeez.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
A short time ago, we did an article.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We talked about an article that came out suggesting that
antidepressants that so many young people are on and I'm teenagers,
completely destroys whatever sexual development they had, the desire for sex,
It's gone, even after they stop the medications. There's an
article today in Wall Street Journal regarding the kids' kids
(09:10):
and I mean single digit seven, eight nine year olds
who are on pills for ADHD and that for so
many of them it begins what is a cascade of drugs? Now,
you work in the special education area, I do, so
I'm sure that you've had experience with kids that are
medicated or have problems like ADHD.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Absolutely, and of course there are concerns around over medicating
students or kids. There are concerns around under medicating or
not medicating kids. But at any rate, what I think
I've seen in my own experience is that a lot
of the kids who are on medication become pretty used
to that medication, and by the time they're able to
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find a supplement or something to add to their kind
of cache of medication, they do because they learn to
medicate themselves to control whatever it is is ailing them.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So it's this can.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Be these ADHD medications a foray into harder drug use.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They use Danielle Ganski as an example. This is a
girl in Philadelphia seven years old, when her academic performance
started to drop off a bit. She was bubbly, creative kid,
but was easily distracted. Schoolwork was sloppy, and the school said.
The school said to mom, she might want to go
see a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist diagnosed ADHD and prescribed a stimulant.
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Concerned that she might get kicked out if her focus
didn't improve, Mom agrees doesn't want to, but also doesn't
want her kid kicked out of this upscale private school
that she was in. The pills made Danielle agitated, moody
and angry, so instead of removing the pills, the doctor
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added a prescription for prozac.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So she's on.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Concerta for inattention, prozac for moodiness, and then throw on
top of that a lrazapam for anxiety. A very young
kid on those three very powerful medications.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
That's it's just impossible.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's impossible for a very young kid, if not someone older,
to then re establish a baseline for themselves. At that point,
you're so dependent on these uppers and downers and middle
of the road drugs to keep you afloat that if
you change any of that mixture, you can't function.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
This is really really something.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It seems like, I mean the way that you say it,
and I'm sure that there are doctors out there that
would be able to correct it or give it a
better and nowogy is it seems like you've got two
Jenga games on a scale, okay, and you're trying to
On the one side, you've got a Jenga tower that
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is the child's mental condition, whatever it is, positive, negative, inattentive, distracted, angry, anxious, depressed, whatever.
That's all on one side and on the other side
of that of a scale, you're trying to build a
Jenga tower that balances that out. And you're I mean,
like you said, you've got multiple different drugs that do
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different things, and if you take one out of the mix,
it's not just removing the things that that drug would
have done. It removes the or it accentuates the things
that it might have counteracted in the other drugs.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And what this study revealed is that kids who are
prescribed these ADHD medications. And this is not to say
I am definitely a proponent of doing what can be
done to help kids. I do have concerns about over medication,
but for kids who are on these ADHD meds, it shows,
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it has revealed that they are far more likely to
be prescribed additional psychiatric drugs over the next short period
of years. So the studies are correlating to needing more
and more medication. You're just pumping kids, pumping kids to
counteract the decrease and of efficacy or the other side
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effects that may happen. And then before you know it.
You have all these kids who are just again dysfunctional.
They're just hyper dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We'll talk more about this when we come back, because
I think there's so much more to what it is
that we, as the adults in the room are doing
to our kids.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six meters.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Still taking your talkback, So we'll get to it a
little bit later in the show today. But what do
you do to get through your holiday dinners? Do you
have a game plan that you have to get through?
You have things that you will not talk about as
a result of Uncle Fred or Aunt Bobby or whatever
it is that you can't talk about things with them.
(14:24):
Stocks are up today they were at least after this
delayed US jobs report added to a happy mood in
the markets, and Nvidia came out with a big earnings report. Also,
Walmart raised its sales forecast for the year. There were
also some new job numbers that came in job growth
that defied expectations in September. So the Dow had been
(14:46):
up about six hundred almost six hundred points earlier in
the day, and again it has dipped down below that
flat mark, and it's down two hundred points right now.
It's where it's been for the last to last hour
or so. Nipanny Hobbs has joined us. Shannon's out today
for vacation, but we're discussing this story that I thought
you might have a specific and unique perspective on, simply
(15:10):
because of your time your day job, which of course
is special ed teaching.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I do I have a unique perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Indeed, this is an article regarding kids on ADHD pills
and that this mental health providers frequently prescribe medications to
kids that then will find themselves on other medications down
the road, and there is I shouldn't say there's no concern,
(15:40):
but it doesn't appear that there's a lot of concern
about the impacts that these medications will have as these
kids grow up. And the one we did last week
was all about the sexual function of some teenagers that
have been on antipsychotic and anti anxiety drugs and that
stuff disappears their development even after they're off the medications.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And this Wall Street Journal kind of expose is really revealing,
and I think if people were to know what's really
being said in this and we're sharing it with you now,
and they have kids who are in this situation, they
would be extremely concerned. At one point, it says here
that clinical trials have shown that drugs that are prescribed
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to treat ADHD, including Riddlin and adderall are safe when
used in kind of isolated instances. So one drug here
and then that ends, and then maybe another drug here
and then that ends. But when you pair them together,
when you have multiple psychiatric drugs, the study shows that
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there's less known about the impact. So kids are on
multiple drugs at one time, and there's not a lot
of evidence that's been collected about whether or not this
is actually good for their overall cognitive of well being.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I okay, So in your position, totally defer this question
if you want to. But in your position, you're going
to see kids. Well, first of all, first question is
do you know if they're medicated or not?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Like it I do.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And in some cases you won't have guardians disclose maybe
the full amount or the type because there's a stigma.
There is a stigma, And nine times out of ten
we do know that kids are medicated.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
In your experience, have you ever seen a kid pre
medication post medication and thought to yourself, that's exactly what
that kid needs to get through.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, and then the vice versa of that as well,
kids on medication, kids come off and you see a
different child altogether, a child who has learned then to
function without all of these additives. So it works on
both sides. There are gains, there are positives, and then
sometimes these drugs can exacerbate things that may not be
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there or create disorders that may not have been there
prior to using the drugs.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, they do say that there are instances where, especially
combinations of drugs can lead to new symptoms that crop
up that aren't actually based in the child's brain.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They're not there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's that the drugs are creating this behavior or whatever,
this deficit, and then what.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Happens drugs are prescribed to treat the symptom.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now here's the other thing about this article that I
found interesting is the Wall Street Journal identified about five
thousand providers doctors who ordered eighty h drugs for at
least one hundred children each between twenty nineteen twenty twenty two,
and on average, they gave additional psychiatric drugs to twenty
five percent of their patients. There was a tiny number
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ordered to combinations at even higher rates, including one hundred
and twenty eight of those doctors. Now that again, that's
a small number out of five thousand, but one hundred
and twenty eight of them, we're prescribing combinations for more
than sixty percent of their patients. Again, you and I
are not doctors. No, we haven't done the medical research
necessary to make a full judgment on that. But just
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as a as a parent, it's a it's that is
a gigantic red flag. Yes, I know my kid is
struggling with insert name of thing here, and there are
drugs that can help, at least in the temporary they
can help, but down the road, do we have any
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idea what this means for them as an eighteen year old,
as a twenty eight year old, as a forty eight
year old.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
No, And the study in the Wall Street Journal is
proving that, And I think it's I think it needs
to be said that when we look at over the
counter prescription or over the counter drugs, say you're tailanaw
or your advil or anything like that, your niquil, there
are all these warnings on the back about prolonged use,
don't use it for longer than say days, seven days,
three days, whatever it may be. And we adhere to
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that because we respect what possibly could happen, and you
don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
But when it comes to.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
These psychiatric drugs, that goes out the window. Apparently you
can use it at nauseum, and the research does not
yet show what that will then cause after seventeen or
eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I do also think there's a general consensus that when
it comes to behavioral things like adhd ADD that a
lot of times it is a diagnosed thing. A doctor, psychiatrist,
whatever will come in and say your child has the
signs of this, and that there are so many other
environmental factors that can be altered, changed, taken away, et cetera. Yeh, tablet's, phones, whatever,
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video games that can change and rewire that kid's brain
to bring them into an area that would it makes
it easier for them to learn, It makes it easier
for them to behave and to sit still in the
simple things.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
But that removing or inserting different things into the environment
requires time and diligence and effort.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Drugs are quick quick, they're.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Quick all right, can air travel be civil?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Your Secretary of Transportation is asking everybody to say they're
pleases and.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Their thank you at the airports.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I'll think about it.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Swamp Watch comes along.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
At the top of the hour, we'll talk about what's
going on in the world of politics in DC, Strange science,
of course. At twelve thirty, we'll talk a little bit
more about what we learned from NASA yesterday about three
I Atlas, of course, and next hour conversation about AI
generated audio content. It's a little too close to home here,
(21:50):
it's going to be good, so that'll come up.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You're flying anywhere for the holidays.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I am not.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I am not going to subject myself to that kind
of situation. I'm keeping it close to the pavement, are.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You, Yes, My wife and I are flying on Sunday.
As a matter of fact, May the odds be ever
in your favor. I appreciate that Secretary of Transportation Sean
Duffy is calling on us, all of us, to exhibit
civility and manners so that we can return to the
golden era of travel.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It's calling on You Gary, not Me.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The Department of Transportation has put out a video that
shows a supercut of all of the craziest things we've
seen in airplane fuselages over the last say, four or
five years, highlight reel, highlight reel next to images from
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inside an airplane in the nineteen fifties or sixties or something,
where everybody's dressed up. Everybody, every guy is in a suit,
every woman is in a dress, and it's a different
it's a different thing now. Part of it is, I
assume air travel was relatively expensive back in the fifties
(23:08):
and sixties, so you had that kind of set a
level in terms of who was available, who was going
to fly right because it was going to be a
little bit more expensive, and probably thought it was, you know,
worth getting dressed up for. He says, flying, This is
Sean Duff. Flying has become uncivilized. He posted on x
(23:31):
a four hundred percent rise in outbursts on planes since
twenty nineteen, a doubling of unruly passenger events. A survey
shows that one in five flight attendants has experienced a
physical incident at work. And his message is very simple,
The golden age of travel begins with civility, and it
begins with us, each of us individually, be.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Nice, say please, say thank you. Bringing civility back I
think enhances the travel experience for everybody. And so sometimes
you just have to ask people, Hey, let's maybe go
back to an era where we didn't wear our pajamas
to the airport. We actually might dress up a little bit,
and if someone needs help putting their luggage up in
the overhead bin, help them out.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I don't dress up, but I also don't dress down
for an airplane trip.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I think it's kind of Pollyanna ish for Shan Duffy
to think that your clothing will somehow prohibit you or
prevent you from launching a coke at the flight attendant.
If you're upset with the service, you're still going to
do it. If you're that kind of person.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, the clothes aren't going to change the insights now,
he asks. In a video that has made its way around,
he said, are you helping a pregnant woman put her
bag in the overhead bin? Are you dressing with respect?
Are you keeping control of your children? That one is tough.
I've flown with infants before, and I know that that
can be a hard thing.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Control is subjective.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
ID are you saying thank you to your flight attendants
and pilots? Are you saying please and thank you? In general?
I get laughed at because I still make eye contact
with the flight attendants while they're doing the safety demonstration.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Because I do that too, and now it really makes
people uncomfortable if you make I'm making eye contact with.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
You right now? Are you uncomfortable? I don't like it
You've been looking away.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
But it is a difference in what I think we
see now versus what we grew up with.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I can imagine my parents never I did not fly
in an airliner until I was twenty one, twenty two
years old. I think, wow, we just never traveled like that.
My parents never, We never did that. Okay, we didn't
go anywhere, no judge me. Maide in the state of California,
and that's drivable, no matter. Even in those places that
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were outside California, they considered them drivable.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I remember that in those time. It was so new
to me, even in my early twenties, that there was
a little bit of fear, not about the flying part,
but fear of I'm doing this wrong, or I'm going
to get lost in the airport, or I don't know
how this whole system works. But I had imagined that
if my parents were with me, they would require me, Hey,
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stop looking at your phone or reading your mag whatever
it is, pay attention to what they're doing. Not that
you know, I mean the chances of anything, actually that
I'm going to be required to land in water and
then you know, float the raft out of this side
of the plane or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
But it's simply a matter of respecting what they're doing.
You know that they are there as well. In they're
not just there to serve you a coke and a
rum and coke. Their whole purpose is for the safety
of the people on the on board, right, And I
agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
I do think that it is a social experiment because
you look around and it's not generational. Everyone's on their phone,
everyone or many seem to have disinvested or whatever the
verb is there in decorum. It's just it's very individualistic,
very You're just going, You're doing your thing, and who
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cares whatever else happens outside of your bubble and Sean
Duffy thinks said if we just say thank you, that
this will all go away and things will get better.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
There is also an aspect to air travel that is
forgotten a lot of times, which is, in any given
day in the United States, thousands of airplane flights thousands,
and the vast majority of them go off without a hitch.
They go out on time, they arrive of even a
few minutes early. It's those rare instances where we have
a major issue, whether it's a computer issue, which is unusual,
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a weather issue, which is much more common that even
in those instances, we have to remember I have flown
forty seven times in the last ten years and have
never had a problem. This one time where my flight
is delayed by two hours because there's a snowstorm in Denver,
and I get to lose my mind.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
No, you gotta keep that in check.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And social media plays a part. People are uploading rapid speed.
You see a lot more doesn't mean that more is
necessarily happening for you.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
It's just looks. It looks like swamp watch. When we
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