July 14, 2025 • 29 mins
Menendez ruling regarding the letter and Menudo information. Epstein backlash at the Gen Z convention and Trump's response. Discussing weird family traditions during talkbacks throughout the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
It shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Overcast on a Monday in July. We should be greeted
with sunshine for a Monday morning to get our asses
back at work with energy. That's okay. I'm a little
I know I have no right to complain about this,
and I'm not complaining. I'm mildly annoyed with just lifey life,
lifeness because I am fasting to get my blood work
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done today, So like without coffee or food, I am
being very.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's why I've put off my blood work.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Shannon got, I mean, like I can't go and go
through I mean I have enough trouble anyway, and then
you go through a whole shift without food to feed
your brain. Yeah, and Gary's not here and I'm just
flying solo with no food.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, it's gonna be a fun one, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Like I've usually had six cups of coffee by not really,
but you know, I mean I've usually had a couple.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Cups of coffee. There's food. It's a situation.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's a whole thing it's a whole new day, and
I realize that it's not that big of a deal.
I mean, my blood works at one thirty. I can
live a few hours with that food.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
In my day.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think it's just the whole idea of you can't
And yeah, Amy, I've done that too, where I've put
it off because I just don't want to deal with
the idea of waking up and not eating for six hours,
which is ridiculous, because like I said, I know I
have no business complaining about that. People have real problems.
We have a packed show for you, fueled by water.
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Did you hear about this over the weekend. I did
a deep dive yesterday because I was reading about Turning Point.
Ussays it was the basically jen x fans of Donald
Trump had their convention look like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's the student Action Summit.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And apparently there is this whole ground swell of people
who are really upset over Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
These are maga people, people.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Even writer to that crowd, who are really upset with
the burying of the Epstein files, really upset with Trump's
a g Pam Bondi for her lack of transparency, upset
at the Department of Justice for not coming out and saying,
what's what, there's this whole conspiracy theory that there's this
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cover up that expands from the right to the left
when it comes to people in power and whatevery what
the people who know, like there's there's rumors that net
and Yahoo know what knows what's going on in the
Epstein files maybe putin that maybe there's things that Trump
doesn't want to have come out. And I don't understand
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why there's an obsession, but it clearly exists. We'll get
into to that. Oh and also that the side plot
that Michelle Obama's a man, that's that is that's thrown
into that conspiracy theory as well, So we'll dig into
that specifically. What was voiced over the weekend at what
should be just this celibratory Young Maggot convention which turned
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into a little bit of Jeffrey Epstein befest. But this
quietly surfaced over the weekend, and it was a story
that happened early last week, very quietly, and it is
quite a big deal, and it's all about the Menendez
brother's case. A judge who seems to want to make
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a name for himself. A judge who seems to want
to get an entrance ticket into the circus that is
the Menendez case, says that the new evidence unearthed in
the murder case, that's right, new evidence from nineteen eighty nine.
The new evidence, if true, he says, makes a compelling
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case to throw out their convictions.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
This means if this holds.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
The brothers could be released even without a parole board hearing.
This didn't get much attention last week and over the weekend,
and it's not even that in the weeds. Legally, it's
pretty easy. According to the new court documents. This LA
Superior Court judge, a guy by the name of William Ryan,
has reviewed two pieces of this using finger quotes here
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new evidence. The first is a letter purporting to be
from Eric Menendez to his cousin Andy, which would corroborate
Andy's testimony about Dad molesting Eric. The second piece of
evidence is a declaration from Roy Rosello, a former member
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of Minudo, who claims he was anally raped and orally
copulated by the Dad, either in nineteen eighty three or
eighty four. Now Mark Gerragis, who's representing the boys. He
says that this evidence shows the prosecution was is totally
off base when they characterized Dad Jose Menendez as not
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the kind of man who would abuse his children, and
that in the original trial the judge was wrong to
severely limit testimony about alleged sexual abuse. Now, if you
remember the Menendez brothers admit they shot and killed their parents,
they said it was years after abuse by both of them. Now,
prosecutors argued bs they were spoiled brats whose gravy train
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was coming to an end and wanted to keep spending
the way that they could, that they know the family
could provide for and the parents were going to cut
them off, and they hell know, we don't want that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So they often because of it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Geregis has filed legal documents arguing that the new evidence,
the letter complaining about and if you watch the documentaries
and all the made for TV dramas, this is nothing
new to you. But Geregis has filed legal documents arguing
that this new evidence, the letter, and the Menudo claim
would have changed the outcome of the trials. So these
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convictions should be overturned. Now this new wild card Judge
Judge Ryan said in the new documents, the prosecutor is
ordered to show cause why the relief request should not
be granted. So the prosecutors in this case are now
ordered to answer for why those pieces of evidence were
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not introduced at trialway the juries didn't hear them, despite
the fact that the letter was completely plagiarized. It was
totally dummied up. And that's not an opinion that's asked
and answered. The Menudo claim has been talked about for years.
It's tenuous at best anyway. So translation, the judge says
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that the Menendez brothers have made their case to toss
out their convictions and now prosecutors have to rebut that
within thirty days or they're out. They don't even need
to wait for their parole board hearing, which I believe
had been pushed back to August twenty first and twenty second.
So already things were looking good for them going into
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this parole hearing because earlier in this year in May,
another judge resentenced the brothers to fifty years to life
in prison, which made them eligible for parole. So at
this parole hearing August twenty first and twenty second, it
looked like there could be a recommendation that they're led
out right away. They may not have to wait that long.
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I mean, the parole board could recommend to the governor
to grant them clemency. But if this judge, this wild
card Judge Ryan tosses the convictions, they're out boom.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Within thirty days.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Where are we July fourteenth, so they could be out
a week or so before before their parole hearing. And
it's going to be fascinating, isn't it to watch their
redemption tour, To watch all the people clamor for these
brothers and their innocence and all of the lies that
this was all talked about, This was all asked in answer.
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There's a reason why certain evidence was not allowed at trial,
and it's because there was not factual basis behind it.
You couldn't prove that this stuff was real, and that's
why that jurors didn't get to hear about it. And
they're gonna get out there and they're going to hore
themselves around.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
These were the brothers. Their parents' bodies weren't even cold.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Remember, one went back to the car to get more
bullets to reload and off the mom, officially off the
mom who she lay there dying bleeding out but still alive.
The mom abused her sons. Come on, and before those
bodies were even dealt with at the morgue, these two
were out on rodeo drive buying expensive suits and watches.
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Come on, and they're going to go on a redemption
tour with all these people who forget all the real
evidence and watched a couple flick shows.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh my gosh, the whore. Listen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
There's a lot of people who were wrongfully convicted.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Go clamor for them, go take up their cause. But
these guys, these guys in Scott Peterson, get out of here,
all right. See, I'm very mean and angry when I
don't eat.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Coming up next, we'll get into this gen X convention, Maga,
gen X convention, Ze gen Z. Sorry my mistake. Yeah,
you did write gen X, probably because I did in
the email. I probably messed that up. First, I will
follow this sword because that's what gen X. Wait, I
don't know what I am. I don't know what I am.
We'll get into it when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (09:45):
We have a fun Monday show plan for you. Michael
Munks will join us coming up at ten. Jd Vance,
poor jd Vance, try to take his kids to Disneyland
and was lambasted for doing so.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I I really don't like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, there's so many things I don't like about Gavin Newsom,
but one of the things that sticks in my craw
and I'm not the only one, because I heard this
coming out of South Carolina, where he spent a couple
of days last week. One of the Democrats who showed
up to see him said to him, can you stop
the and I'm paraphrasing here, but I'll give you the
(10:23):
gist of what she said, can you stop the juvenile
attacks on X on social media?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You ever look at Gavin Newsom's tweets, her posts on X,
he comes across as this child in the school yard.
The way he's sarcastic and snarky going after his political adversaries,
it's it's silly and it leaves you with a bad
taste in.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Your mouth, and that's annoying.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And he did that again with jd Vance at Disneyland,
and then he went after his kids, and that's another
no no for me. You know, you learn certain things
from the Real Housewives of Orange County, don't you. And
one of the things that Emily has taught us this
season and episode one leave the children alone, Like come
after me all you want.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Leave my kids out of it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Let's not manipulate the children for our own mean girl arguments.
And it seems like Gavin Newsom was not watching The
Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We'll talk to Michael about that as well.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We've got a right wing family values powerful man in
Texas who is getting a divorce and it's been described
as what he has done as dirty and disgusting.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
We'll talk about that as well. Okay, so the pictures
look like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This was a gathering of some of Trump's most devote,
devout supporter, excuse me, young conservatives summer weekend, strategizing on
how to further the MAGA movement. But there was, as
the Washington Post reports, a cloud hanging over the convention center. Now,
I had heard about the Jeffrey Epstein upheaval, shall we say,
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and some of the super right fringe groups on social media.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That they're very upset.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
They were very excited when Pambondi came out with the binders, remember,
and they were going to release all of this information
about what was in the Epstein files. And I believe
that this far right fringe group believed that it would
be the downfall of the Democrats, i e. The Obamas
and the Clintons that have been living this like dark,
weird child trafficking life, and they believed it was all
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in there and the Epstein files. But then it seems
like Trump was putting the kabash on this thing, and
they don't like that. They love everything about Trump, but
they don't like that. And I didn't realize how this
is not going away. I thought it went away. I
thought that they were upset about Pam Bondi not releasing
all the information. And then there was another little uptick
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in the fervor last week when the Justice Department came
out and said there is no client list, like we're
done here. Even Trump took to the social media and said,
move on, we're done.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like, let the guy die. He's dead, he won't die.
Let him die.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Over the weekend, again Jeffrey Epstein sprouts up his dead
little head. It was Turning Point USA's Student Action summit,
and it erupted in booze over the administration's handling of
the files related to Jeffrey Epstein. If you were born
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yesterday or this morning, or your head's been in the sand,
or you're coming out of like a six year bender,
this is a guy who was killed or murdered in prison.
He was a bff to the rich and the powerful.
He had boatloads of money, He liked his girls young,
he liked to have parties with them at islands, and
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it's like a ditty freak off before we knew what
those were.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Essentially is what the rumors kind of were.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
There were big names that were listed in flight logs,
Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and so it seemed like this
guy held all the secrets of the uber rich and
the uber powerful, and some of those secrets were very, very.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dirty and illegal.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well over the weekend, top MAGA leaders criticized the White
House from the stage and on social media, attacking not
only Trump's ag pambondi, but raising questions about why the
president is so out of step with his base on this.
A lot of anxiety was fueled among Trump allies about
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these conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They were not poo pooed.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
By Trump and the administration officials before they took office,
but now they've kind of gone by the wayside. Even
Fox News Yesterday Morning Fox and Friends host Charles Hunt
said the White House needed to provide more answers. He said,
there has to be some explanation, and I think that's
why you have a lot of people with a lot
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of very valid questions. They want a more substantive response.
They don't want to be told there is no client list,
case closed. Trump said it's rare that he will admonish
his base, but he called on them to stop asking
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questions about this. Many in the maga world see that
this is central. Whatever is in those files is central
to exposing the deep state and bringing transparency to Washington. See,
these are people, These Maga people are still people very
distrustful of the government. They just like Trump. But now
that Trump's there, He's part of the government now, isn't he.
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So what is he going to do to make them
feel better the government and make them feel better about transparency?
This is where they want him to start. We'll talk
more about it when we come back.
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
I want you to let me know I love weird family. Traditions.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, we are in the midst of talking about turning
Point USA's student Action summit over the weekend, which oddly
erupted in booze over the Trump administration's handling of the
files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
This won't go away.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Trump posted truth social on Saturday night after seeing this
what's going on with my boys in some cases gals?
Dismissing the call that happened at the convention for Pam
Bondi's ouster, He wrote that she's doing a fantastic job
and that he wanted his administration to focus on other issues.
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He wrote, Trump did, we have a perfect administration the world,
and selfish people are trying to hurt it all over
a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like I mentioned, this.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Is a crowd that is thrilled to have Trump back
in the White House, but they're not thrilled about everything
Trump is doing there. Like I mentioned before the break,
they distrust the government. Hell, Trump ran on that a
couple times. He distrusts the government in the media, and
these people agree. Then why not tell us everything that's
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in the jepstin Jeffrey Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
They want to know the political hawks are worried that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
This dynamic could cost the Trump movement in next year's
election and beyond. I won't go that far. I don't
think it's going to touch the Trump movement, but cracks
in the foundation are troubling. Charlie Kirk, the founder of
Turning Point USA, told The Washington Post the excitement I
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saw among younger voters could be diffused. He likened it
to the air out of a balloon. He said, do
I think this is the end of Magan? No?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I never said that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But do I think the extra ten to fifteen percent
of less inclined to vote, guys that are trading crypto
and wake up at two pm every day? Do I
think they're going to be like screw it? Yeah, And
that's a huge risk. There is another problem that reared
its ugly head over the weekend at the convention, and
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that is the White House's decision to keep sending US
weapons to Ukraine. And today the President doubled down on that,
announcing that the US will dramatically increase weapons supplies with
European allies, with those countries sending arms to Ukraine, missiles,
air defense, weaponry, artery artillery shell. Excuse me. This is
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a seismic policy shift from Trump. He originally refused to
side with Ukraine and his people loved it until very
recently he insisted he would only supply defensive weapons and
as to not escalate the war. He also said today
he's giving Rush of fifty days to make a deal
or else face one hundred percent secondary tariffs. Now I
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believe that this is about Trump's pissing match with Putin.
That's why he's freeing up more weapons for Ukraine because
Putin has not been very friendly to Trump recently, has he.
Trump even in recent weeks, went as far to say
that he's not happy with him. He's not happy with Putin.
So this is a fractured friendship that's going on. And
today Trump seems to be real pissed off about it.
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So he's going the extra mile for Ukraine, but he's
also pissing off the people that put him in power.
They don't want to deal with Ukraine. That's not our business.
Where's America first. But they still love Trump. Fox News
Laura Ingram talked about this Epstein issue bubbling up under
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the surface. She said, how many of you are satisfied
with the results of the Epstein investigation, and that's when
the sea of booze erupted. She got the same response
for the continuance of sending weapons to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
She got the same.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Response when she mentioned Trump's carve outs for margrant workers
in the farm and hospitality sectors. Those are the sectors,
by the way, that the very rich Republicans use to
run their companies, the farms and the hotels. Right, So
there are some issues going on with that base and
the fact that Epstein is part of it is wild.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
To me anyway, just something for them to think about.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you kind of got to ask yourself, well, why
wouldn't they be totally transparent with the Epstein files. The
guy's dead, his right hand woman, Glain Maxwell's in prison,
there's no chance of a pardon for her. That would
look really bad. Why not just air out all the
dirty laundry. Let's see who was laying in bed with
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all the pigs. How many different terms do I want
to use? How many cliches do I want to get into?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But you know what I mean? Why not?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Unless would it be so earth shattering? The names and
these files, the client lists, the wrongdoing. Would it be
so shattering that it would take down titans of industry?
And it's so secretive that we don't know about it. Again,
if you want to dive into the hole that is
X and you get into the right wing fringe, all right,
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conspiracy theories. They believe that it's because the excuse me,
the Clintons and the Obamas are engaged in child trafficking,
and that Michelle am as a man like. They believe
all of these like things you have not even you
could not come up with if you sat down to
write a story. And they believe this is a massive
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cover up that would hurt mostly Democrats. So why is
trumpa Why is he putting up a roadblock?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Coming up next, Weird family traditions? Do you have any?
Do you have any things like let me see here?
What are the examples in the article? I lost it?
I'm like John coblt family reunions, picnics, things like that,
fun fetti cupcakes for just occasions, maybe a special cookie
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you make or whatever. What's your family tradition? It doesn't
have to be weird, it can be completely normal.
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Speaker 1 (22:52):
Massive ten o'clock hour coming up. Michael Monks will join us.
We've got your chance at one thousand dollars and tons
of local stories to get to. Texas is trying to
make a play for Hollywood. They see all the fun
Atlanta and Canada are having with all of the filming,
and Texas wants a piece of the pie. We'll talk
about that also. JD Vance's trip to Disneyland. My goodness,
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people have no shame, no shame. Politics does not need
to invade every corner of our lives, and are certainly
not our family lives, does it. Well, that's apparently not
the case. And now we've got people going after parents
who take their kids to Disneyland. Remember the guy in
Tarzana who killed his wife and her parents. This happened
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a couple of years ago, twenty twenty three. He cut
them up, he'd tossed their body parts into a trash
bin and Encino, I think some if I remember correctly,
it was some workers there that stumbled upon this and said, hey, cops,
you got some body parts in here. He killed himself
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over the weekend. Apparently had a court date today, maybe
due to plea out his case. He was due and
he well, they say he has died in custody, so
we'll leave it at that. He lived in His name
was Sam Haskell, and he was accused of murdering his wife,
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Miley may Lie may Lie probably thirty seven and her parents,
Goshawan and Yen Zang's seventy two and sixty four. They
lived in Tarzana, three young kids the parents lived with them.
Remember this might spark your memory. He's the son of
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a powerful Hollywood agent, Sam Haskell. He was the agent
for Kathy Lee Gifford, Whoopee Goldberg, Dolly Parton, George Clooney.
The three missing family members were last seen in November
of twenty twenty three. Oh, here's the detail I was membering.
He allegedly hired four day laborers to take away several
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heavy plastic trash bags from his home.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh, isn't that clever.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You hire a bunch of guys here illegally to take
away the murdered bodies that you cut up.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
What a good guy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
One of the laborers opened one of the bags and
saw the body parts, called nine to one one and
reported the incident. I guess he was hoping that they
would be afraid of the police and wouldn't call it
in an awful person. He was also caught on video
dumping something in some dumpsters. You know, when they kill
themselves in custody, you just wonder, why don't you just
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kill yourself to begin with? Why do you have to
kill your wife and her parents? Start with yourself, and
then everyone else can live their lives. Uh, Okay, See
the snow food thing.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is not going well. It's not going well.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
This whole just living off water till one thirty. The
Walker family has a family tradition. This was in the
Wall Street Journal over the weekend. The Walker family gathers
on a hilltop family farm in West Virginia every July.
They sleep in tents and trailers. The cousins sit by
the campfire. They eat biscuits and gravy, French toast roast
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marshmallows in the evening. It's a whole deal. The kids
get to run around, the parents can catch up. This
was a tradition started more than fifty years ago, and
she and her thirty six first cousins wow keep it
going after the parents died. Now she is seventy eight
and her sons and the second and third generation of
cousins are taking it over. They're passing the torch. They
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say that family traditions are harder to maintain. Families are changing,
they're smaller, they're more far flung, some are estranged. It's
a lot to coordinate work, kids, traveling sports teams, non
traveling sports teams. But they say that it's very important
to do this.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It can be tough.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
They write for older people to let go of the torch,
less because of ego and power, but because it means
they're getting older. Anika Chabra co founded Root and Seed.
This is a platform to help with keeping family traditions alive,
preserving family heritage. And that's the other thing. If you've
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got roots, if you're not a mut like me, and
you've got roots, everyone has roots. I understand that, but
you know it's important to pass those on, especially if
you're a nationality or you come from a place where
it's not common. It's important to pass on what those
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long held traditions and heritages are and the way you
do things and why you do the way you do
them right anyway, she has this platform with tools to
help preserve all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
She says, the world feels a little upside.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Down now and these of get togethers can provide a
sense of belonging, consistency. It makes you feel grounded when
you spend time with family, doesn't it. What are your
family traditions? Do you have a trip you do? Do
you have an occasion where you get together? Is you know,
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maybe something that's not Christmas or Thanksgiving? Or do you
have a pair of traveling genes that you call sisterhood
or brotherhood of the traveling pants? Like?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
What is your tradition? Let us know?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Use the talk back feature on the iHeartRadio app. You
just tap that little microphone there and give us your feedback.
We haven't been good at getting to talkbacks since Gary
has been gone.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
He will be back on Monday. Ps.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But we want to let you know, or we want
to know what you have to say about your family traditions,
cause these can be fun. All right, we'll get into
that also the Michael Monks Power Hour, Oh we come back.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
It shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Overcast on a Monday in July. We should be greeted
with sunshine for a Monday morning to get our asses
back at work with energy. That's okay. I'm a little
I know I have no right to complain about this,
and I'm not complaining. I'm mildly annoyed with just lifey life,
lifeness because I am fasting to get my blood work
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done today, So like without coffee or food, I am
being very.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's why I've put off my blood work.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Shannon got, I mean, like I can't go and go
through I mean I have enough trouble anyway, and then
you go through a whole shift without food to feed
your brain. Yeah, and Gary's not here and I'm just
flying solo with no food.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, it's gonna be a fun one, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Like I've usually had six cups of coffee by not really,
but you know, I mean I've usually had a couple.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Cups of coffee. There's food. It's a situation.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's a whole thing it's a whole new day, and
I realize that it's not that big of a deal.
I mean, my blood works at one thirty. I can
live a few hours with that food.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
In my day.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think it's just the whole idea of you can't
And yeah, Amy, I've done that too, where I've put
it off because I just don't want to deal with
the idea of waking up and not eating for six hours,
which is ridiculous, because like I said, I know I
have no business complaining about that. People have real problems.
We have a packed show for you, fueled by water.
(01:37):
Did you hear about this over the weekend. I did
a deep dive yesterday because I was reading about Turning Point.
Ussays it was the basically jen x fans of Donald
Trump had their convention look like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's the student Action Summit.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And apparently there is this whole ground swell of people
who are really upset over Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
These are maga people, people.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Even writer to that crowd, who are really upset with
the burying of the Epstein files, really upset with Trump's
a g Pam Bondi for her lack of transparency, upset
at the Department of Justice for not coming out and saying,
what's what, there's this whole conspiracy theory that there's this
(02:25):
cover up that expands from the right to the left
when it comes to people in power and whatevery what
the people who know, like there's there's rumors that net
and Yahoo know what knows what's going on in the
Epstein files maybe putin that maybe there's things that Trump
doesn't want to have come out. And I don't understand
(02:47):
why there's an obsession, but it clearly exists. We'll get
into to that. Oh and also that the side plot
that Michelle Obama's a man, that's that is that's thrown
into that conspiracy theory as well, So we'll dig into
that specifically. What was voiced over the weekend at what
should be just this celibratory Young Maggot convention which turned
(03:10):
into a little bit of Jeffrey Epstein befest. But this
quietly surfaced over the weekend, and it was a story
that happened early last week, very quietly, and it is
quite a big deal, and it's all about the Menendez
brother's case. A judge who seems to want to make
(03:33):
a name for himself. A judge who seems to want
to get an entrance ticket into the circus that is
the Menendez case, says that the new evidence unearthed in
the murder case, that's right, new evidence from nineteen eighty nine.
The new evidence, if true, he says, makes a compelling
(03:54):
case to throw out their convictions.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
This means if this holds.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
The brothers could be released even without a parole board hearing.
This didn't get much attention last week and over the weekend,
and it's not even that in the weeds. Legally, it's
pretty easy. According to the new court documents. This LA
Superior Court judge, a guy by the name of William Ryan,
has reviewed two pieces of this using finger quotes here
(04:22):
new evidence. The first is a letter purporting to be
from Eric Menendez to his cousin Andy, which would corroborate
Andy's testimony about Dad molesting Eric. The second piece of
evidence is a declaration from Roy Rosello, a former member
(04:42):
of Minudo, who claims he was anally raped and orally
copulated by the Dad, either in nineteen eighty three or
eighty four. Now Mark Gerragis, who's representing the boys. He
says that this evidence shows the prosecution was is totally
off base when they characterized Dad Jose Menendez as not
(05:04):
the kind of man who would abuse his children, and
that in the original trial the judge was wrong to
severely limit testimony about alleged sexual abuse. Now, if you
remember the Menendez brothers admit they shot and killed their parents,
they said it was years after abuse by both of them. Now,
prosecutors argued bs they were spoiled brats whose gravy train
(05:28):
was coming to an end and wanted to keep spending
the way that they could, that they know the family
could provide for and the parents were going to cut
them off, and they hell know, we don't want that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So they often because of it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Geregis has filed legal documents arguing that the new evidence,
the letter complaining about and if you watch the documentaries
and all the made for TV dramas, this is nothing
new to you. But Geregis has filed legal documents arguing
that this new evidence, the letter, and the Menudo claim
would have changed the outcome of the trials. So these
(06:06):
convictions should be overturned. Now this new wild card Judge
Judge Ryan said in the new documents, the prosecutor is
ordered to show cause why the relief request should not
be granted. So the prosecutors in this case are now
ordered to answer for why those pieces of evidence were
(06:27):
not introduced at trialway the juries didn't hear them, despite
the fact that the letter was completely plagiarized. It was
totally dummied up. And that's not an opinion that's asked
and answered. The Menudo claim has been talked about for years.
It's tenuous at best anyway. So translation, the judge says
(06:51):
that the Menendez brothers have made their case to toss
out their convictions and now prosecutors have to rebut that
within thirty days or they're out. They don't even need
to wait for their parole board hearing, which I believe
had been pushed back to August twenty first and twenty second.
So already things were looking good for them going into
(07:11):
this parole hearing because earlier in this year in May,
another judge resentenced the brothers to fifty years to life
in prison, which made them eligible for parole. So at
this parole hearing August twenty first and twenty second, it
looked like there could be a recommendation that they're led
out right away. They may not have to wait that long.
(07:32):
I mean, the parole board could recommend to the governor
to grant them clemency. But if this judge, this wild
card Judge Ryan tosses the convictions, they're out boom.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Within thirty days.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Where are we July fourteenth, so they could be out
a week or so before before their parole hearing. And
it's going to be fascinating, isn't it to watch their
redemption tour, To watch all the people clamor for these
brothers and their innocence and all of the lies that
this was all talked about, This was all asked in answer.
(08:06):
There's a reason why certain evidence was not allowed at trial,
and it's because there was not factual basis behind it.
You couldn't prove that this stuff was real, and that's
why that jurors didn't get to hear about it. And
they're gonna get out there and they're going to hore
themselves around.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
These were the brothers. Their parents' bodies weren't even cold.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Remember, one went back to the car to get more
bullets to reload and off the mom, officially off the
mom who she lay there dying bleeding out but still alive.
The mom abused her sons. Come on, and before those
bodies were even dealt with at the morgue, these two
were out on rodeo drive buying expensive suits and watches.
(08:53):
Come on, and they're going to go on a redemption
tour with all these people who forget all the real
evidence and watched a couple flick shows.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh my gosh, the whore. Listen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
There's a lot of people who were wrongfully convicted.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Go clamor for them, go take up their cause. But
these guys, these guys in Scott Peterson, get out of here,
all right. See, I'm very mean and angry when I
don't eat.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Coming up next, we'll get into this gen X convention, Maga,
gen X convention, Ze gen Z. Sorry my mistake. Yeah,
you did write gen X, probably because I did in
the email. I probably messed that up. First, I will
follow this sword because that's what gen X. Wait, I
don't know what I am. I don't know what I am.
We'll get into it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We have a fun Monday show plan for you. Michael
Munks will join us coming up at ten. Jd Vance,
poor jd Vance, try to take his kids to Disneyland
and was lambasted for doing so.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I I really don't like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, there's so many things I don't like about Gavin Newsom,
but one of the things that sticks in my craw
and I'm not the only one, because I heard this
coming out of South Carolina, where he spent a couple
of days last week. One of the Democrats who showed
up to see him said to him, can you stop
the and I'm paraphrasing here, but I'll give you the
(10:23):
gist of what she said, can you stop the juvenile
attacks on X on social media?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You ever look at Gavin Newsom's tweets, her posts on X,
he comes across as this child in the school yard.
The way he's sarcastic and snarky going after his political adversaries,
it's it's silly and it leaves you with a bad
taste in.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Your mouth, and that's annoying.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And he did that again with jd Vance at Disneyland,
and then he went after his kids, and that's another
no no for me. You know, you learn certain things
from the Real Housewives of Orange County, don't you. And
one of the things that Emily has taught us this
season and episode one leave the children alone, Like come
after me all you want.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Leave my kids out of it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Let's not manipulate the children for our own mean girl arguments.
And it seems like Gavin Newsom was not watching The
Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We'll talk to Michael about that as well.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We've got a right wing family values powerful man in
Texas who is getting a divorce and it's been described
as what he has done as dirty and disgusting.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
We'll talk about that as well. Okay, so the pictures
look like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This was a gathering of some of Trump's most devote,
devout supporter, excuse me, young conservatives summer weekend, strategizing on
how to further the MAGA movement. But there was, as
the Washington Post reports, a cloud hanging over the convention center. Now,
I had heard about the Jeffrey Epstein upheaval, shall we say,
(12:09):
and some of the super right fringe groups on social media.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That they're very upset.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
They were very excited when Pambondi came out with the binders, remember,
and they were going to release all of this information
about what was in the Epstein files. And I believe
that this far right fringe group believed that it would
be the downfall of the Democrats, i e. The Obamas
and the Clintons that have been living this like dark,
weird child trafficking life, and they believed it was all
(12:40):
in there and the Epstein files. But then it seems
like Trump was putting the kabash on this thing, and
they don't like that. They love everything about Trump, but
they don't like that. And I didn't realize how this
is not going away. I thought it went away. I
thought that they were upset about Pam Bondi not releasing
all the information. And then there was another little uptick
(13:03):
in the fervor last week when the Justice Department came
out and said there is no client list, like we're
done here. Even Trump took to the social media and said,
move on, we're done.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like, let the guy die. He's dead, he won't die.
Let him die.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Over the weekend, again Jeffrey Epstein sprouts up his dead
little head. It was Turning Point USA's Student Action summit,
and it erupted in booze over the administration's handling of
the files related to Jeffrey Epstein. If you were born
(13:39):
yesterday or this morning, or your head's been in the sand,
or you're coming out of like a six year bender,
this is a guy who was killed or murdered in prison.
He was a bff to the rich and the powerful.
He had boatloads of money, He liked his girls young,
he liked to have parties with them at islands, and
(14:01):
it's like a ditty freak off before we knew what
those were.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Essentially is what the rumors kind of were.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
There were big names that were listed in flight logs,
Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and so it seemed like this
guy held all the secrets of the uber rich and
the uber powerful, and some of those secrets were very, very.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dirty and illegal.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well over the weekend, top MAGA leaders criticized the White
House from the stage and on social media, attacking not
only Trump's ag pambondi, but raising questions about why the
president is so out of step with his base on this.
A lot of anxiety was fueled among Trump allies about
(14:45):
these conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They were not poo pooed.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
By Trump and the administration officials before they took office,
but now they've kind of gone by the wayside. Even
Fox News Yesterday Morning Fox and Friends host Charles Hunt
said the White House needed to provide more answers. He said,
there has to be some explanation, and I think that's
why you have a lot of people with a lot
(15:13):
of very valid questions. They want a more substantive response.
They don't want to be told there is no client list,
case closed. Trump said it's rare that he will admonish
his base, but he called on them to stop asking
(15:34):
questions about this. Many in the maga world see that
this is central. Whatever is in those files is central
to exposing the deep state and bringing transparency to Washington. See,
these are people, These Maga people are still people very
distrustful of the government. They just like Trump. But now
that Trump's there, He's part of the government now, isn't he.
(15:57):
So what is he going to do to make them
feel better the government and make them feel better about transparency?
This is where they want him to start. We'll talk
more about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I want you to let me know I love weird family. Traditions.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, we are in the midst of talking about turning
Point USA's student Action summit over the weekend, which oddly
erupted in booze over the Trump administration's handling of the
files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
This won't go away.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Trump posted truth social on Saturday night after seeing this
what's going on with my boys in some cases gals?
Dismissing the call that happened at the convention for Pam
Bondi's ouster, He wrote that she's doing a fantastic job
and that he wanted his administration to focus on other issues.
(16:56):
He wrote, Trump did, we have a perfect administration the world,
and selfish people are trying to hurt it all over
a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like I mentioned, this.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Is a crowd that is thrilled to have Trump back
in the White House, but they're not thrilled about everything
Trump is doing there. Like I mentioned before the break,
they distrust the government. Hell, Trump ran on that a
couple times. He distrusts the government in the media, and
these people agree. Then why not tell us everything that's
(17:34):
in the jepstin Jeffrey Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
They want to know the political hawks are worried that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
This dynamic could cost the Trump movement in next year's
election and beyond. I won't go that far. I don't
think it's going to touch the Trump movement, but cracks
in the foundation are troubling. Charlie Kirk, the founder of
Turning Point USA, told The Washington Post the excitement I
(18:05):
saw among younger voters could be diffused. He likened it
to the air out of a balloon. He said, do
I think this is the end of Magan? No?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I never said that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
But do I think the extra ten to fifteen percent
of less inclined to vote, guys that are trading crypto
and wake up at two pm every day? Do I
think they're going to be like screw it? Yeah, And
that's a huge risk. There is another problem that reared
its ugly head over the weekend at the convention, and
(18:35):
that is the White House's decision to keep sending US
weapons to Ukraine. And today the President doubled down on that,
announcing that the US will dramatically increase weapons supplies with
European allies, with those countries sending arms to Ukraine, missiles,
air defense, weaponry, artery artillery shell. Excuse me. This is
(18:58):
a seismic policy shift from Trump. He originally refused to
side with Ukraine and his people loved it until very
recently he insisted he would only supply defensive weapons and
as to not escalate the war. He also said today
he's giving Rush of fifty days to make a deal
or else face one hundred percent secondary tariffs. Now I
(19:20):
believe that this is about Trump's pissing match with Putin.
That's why he's freeing up more weapons for Ukraine because
Putin has not been very friendly to Trump recently, has he.
Trump even in recent weeks, went as far to say
that he's not happy with him. He's not happy with Putin.
So this is a fractured friendship that's going on. And
today Trump seems to be real pissed off about it.
(19:42):
So he's going the extra mile for Ukraine, but he's
also pissing off the people that put him in power.
They don't want to deal with Ukraine. That's not our business.
Where's America first. But they still love Trump. Fox News
Laura Ingram talked about this Epstein issue bubbling up under
(20:04):
the surface. She said, how many of you are satisfied
with the results of the Epstein investigation, and that's when
the sea of booze erupted. She got the same response
for the continuance of sending weapons to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
She got the same.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Response when she mentioned Trump's carve outs for margrant workers
in the farm and hospitality sectors. Those are the sectors,
by the way, that the very rich Republicans use to
run their companies, the farms and the hotels. Right, So
there are some issues going on with that base and
the fact that Epstein is part of it is wild.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
To me anyway, just something for them to think about.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you kind of got to ask yourself, well, why
wouldn't they be totally transparent with the Epstein files. The
guy's dead, his right hand woman, Glain Maxwell's in prison,
there's no chance of a pardon for her. That would
look really bad. Why not just air out all the
dirty laundry. Let's see who was laying in bed with
(21:14):
all the pigs. How many different terms do I want
to use? How many cliches do I want to get into?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But you know what I mean? Why not?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Unless would it be so earth shattering? The names and
these files, the client lists, the wrongdoing. Would it be
so shattering that it would take down titans of industry?
And it's so secretive that we don't know about it. Again,
if you want to dive into the hole that is
X and you get into the right wing fringe, all right,
(21:48):
conspiracy theories. They believe that it's because the excuse me,
the Clintons and the Obamas are engaged in child trafficking,
and that Michelle am as a man like. They believe
all of these like things you have not even you
could not come up with if you sat down to
write a story. And they believe this is a massive
(22:11):
cover up that would hurt mostly Democrats. So why is
trumpa Why is he putting up a roadblock?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Coming up next, Weird family traditions? Do you have any?
Do you have any things like let me see here?
What are the examples in the article? I lost it?
I'm like John coblt family reunions, picnics, things like that,
fun fetti cupcakes for just occasions, maybe a special cookie
(22:41):
you make or whatever. What's your family tradition? It doesn't
have to be weird, it can be completely normal.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Massive ten o'clock hour coming up. Michael Monks will join us.
We've got your chance at one thousand dollars and tons
of local stories to get to. Texas is trying to
make a play for Hollywood. They see all the fun
Atlanta and Canada are having with all of the filming,
and Texas wants a piece of the pie. We'll talk
about that also. JD Vance's trip to Disneyland. My goodness,
(23:16):
people have no shame, no shame. Politics does not need
to invade every corner of our lives, and are certainly
not our family lives, does it. Well, that's apparently not
the case. And now we've got people going after parents
who take their kids to Disneyland. Remember the guy in
Tarzana who killed his wife and her parents. This happened
(23:41):
a couple of years ago, twenty twenty three. He cut
them up, he'd tossed their body parts into a trash
bin and Encino, I think some if I remember correctly,
it was some workers there that stumbled upon this and said, hey, cops,
you got some body parts in here. He killed himself
(24:02):
over the weekend. Apparently had a court date today, maybe
due to plea out his case. He was due and
he well, they say he has died in custody, so
we'll leave it at that. He lived in His name
was Sam Haskell, and he was accused of murdering his wife,
(24:22):
Miley may Lie may Lie probably thirty seven and her parents,
Goshawan and Yen Zang's seventy two and sixty four. They
lived in Tarzana, three young kids the parents lived with them.
Remember this might spark your memory. He's the son of
(24:44):
a powerful Hollywood agent, Sam Haskell. He was the agent
for Kathy Lee Gifford, Whoopee Goldberg, Dolly Parton, George Clooney.
The three missing family members were last seen in November
of twenty twenty three. Oh, here's the detail I was membering.
He allegedly hired four day laborers to take away several
(25:04):
heavy plastic trash bags from his home.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh, isn't that clever.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You hire a bunch of guys here illegally to take
away the murdered bodies that you cut up.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
What a good guy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
One of the laborers opened one of the bags and
saw the body parts, called nine to one one and
reported the incident. I guess he was hoping that they
would be afraid of the police and wouldn't call it
in an awful person. He was also caught on video
dumping something in some dumpsters. You know, when they kill
themselves in custody, you just wonder, why don't you just
(25:39):
kill yourself to begin with? Why do you have to
kill your wife and her parents? Start with yourself, and
then everyone else can live their lives. Uh, Okay, See
the snow food thing.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is not going well. It's not going well.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
This whole just living off water till one thirty. The
Walker family has a family tradition. This was in the
Wall Street Journal over the weekend. The Walker family gathers
on a hilltop family farm in West Virginia every July.
They sleep in tents and trailers. The cousins sit by
the campfire. They eat biscuits and gravy, French toast roast
(26:16):
marshmallows in the evening. It's a whole deal. The kids
get to run around, the parents can catch up. This
was a tradition started more than fifty years ago, and
she and her thirty six first cousins wow keep it
going after the parents died. Now she is seventy eight
and her sons and the second and third generation of
cousins are taking it over. They're passing the torch. They
(26:39):
say that family traditions are harder to maintain. Families are changing,
they're smaller, they're more far flung, some are estranged. It's
a lot to coordinate work, kids, traveling sports teams, non
traveling sports teams. But they say that it's very important
to do this.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It can be tough.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
They write for older people to let go of the torch,
less because of ego and power, but because it means
they're getting older. Anika Chabra co founded Root and Seed.
This is a platform to help with keeping family traditions alive,
preserving family heritage. And that's the other thing. If you've
(27:23):
got roots, if you're not a mut like me, and
you've got roots, everyone has roots. I understand that, but
you know it's important to pass those on, especially if
you're a nationality or you come from a place where
it's not common. It's important to pass on what those
(27:44):
long held traditions and heritages are and the way you
do things and why you do the way you do
them right anyway, she has this platform with tools to
help preserve all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
She says, the world feels a little upside.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Down now and these of get togethers can provide a
sense of belonging, consistency. It makes you feel grounded when
you spend time with family, doesn't it. What are your
family traditions? Do you have a trip you do? Do
you have an occasion where you get together? Is you know,
(28:18):
maybe something that's not Christmas or Thanksgiving? Or do you
have a pair of traveling genes that you call sisterhood
or brotherhood of the traveling pants? Like?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
What is your tradition? Let us know?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Use the talk back feature on the iHeartRadio app. You
just tap that little microphone there and give us your feedback.
We haven't been good at getting to talkbacks since Gary
has been gone.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
He will be back on Monday. Ps.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But we want to let you know, or we want
to know what you have to say about your family traditions,
cause these can be fun. All right, we'll get into
that also the Michael Monks Power Hour, Oh we come back.
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