July 16, 2025 • 31 mins
#WHATSHAPPENING – California couple accused of tricking women into carrying babies through surrogacy; 21 children seized. Etsy Witches Charge for Jobs, Sunshine and Knicks Wins. Business Is Booming. Your brain on revenge looks a lot like your brain on drugs.#WHATCHAWATCHING.
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Shannon for what you watch. In Wednesday, I am deep
into Sullivan's Crossing. Debra is as well. It's like it's
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like a poor man's virgin river.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It is.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It is the same executive director. Yeah, it's like when
we couldn't afford the good drugs anymore and now we're
like in the gutters of the street looking at Sullivan's crossing.
It's not that bad. It's it's still cute, but it's
no virgin referce. No, it's no virgin. It is and
it is, and we will watch our mouths. Also, I
just got this alert from Vanity Fair before she died.
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Queen Elizabeth's first cousin reveals what she really thought of
Harry and Megan. A confidant of the Queen believes Megan
and Harry's royal exit sullied an amazing rain. You see
what Gary missus out on when he leaves her vacation.
I will save this for him for when he comes
back in the meantime, what else is going on?
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While the storm over Jeffrey Epstein and what we don't
know because a government is keeping it away continues, President Trump,
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using his harshest words today as he lashed out at
what he calls weaklings who believe the Epstein bs. In
his words, they're now calling this the Maga rebellion, that
this is a growing swell of people who want the
government to stop protecting the government, elite, the powerful, covering
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up the powerful sins. And they're hardlining here because there's
a lot of people that believe Magabase, people that believe
that there is child ripe and all sorts of trafficking
things going on in those files that continue to be
covered up. So we will see what tomorrow will bring.
When it comes to the White House, they say at
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this point that they are going over options, including an
executive order about pedophilia. I don't think that is going
to quiet. Everybody who wants to know what Jeffrey Epstein knew. Also,
another option is a special prosecutor to go through the
evidence and decide what is relevant. That's the word that
keeps coming out from Speaker Mike Johnson and the President himself.
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With regard to Pambondi, the AG releasing any information, Trump
said she should release any relevant information. So I guess
it goes into the definition of what you think is relevant.
The Pentagon announced that it will release two thousand National
Guard troops from LA. Of course they were federalized deployed
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to LA and early June, so that is finally over.
We've got five people that have been detained in connection
to the death of a young boy who was found
inside a dumpster in Panorama City over the weekend. Officers
responded about seven am. They say that the reports were
about a child between the ages of five and six.
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By yesterday, stuffed animals, candles, notes, flowers, other items left
at the location. Apparently police arrived there on a tip.
Two children were present in the unit that they got
the tip about. They were taken into custody by CPS
and a man and a woman were detained and then
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apparently two more. We don't know the relationship of the
adults to the little boy that was found dead, but
hopefully get more answers on that one. This is a
story that caught my eye yesterday. A paranormal investigator by
the name of Dan Rivera was on tour with his
haunted doll. This is a doll that's rumored to be
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possessed by evil spirits, and the paranormal investigator has turned
up dead fifty four years old. His death was nothing suspicious,
they say. The coroner's office and the state police are investigating.
There will be an autopsy done. The Annabelle doll, if
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you're wondering, was not present at the scene. He was
found alone. They say that annabel may have been inside
a van in the hotel parking lot, though though they
cannot officially confirm the doll's location, the fact that this
much about the doll, and the presence of the doll,
or the lack thereof, in connection with the dead body
is shocking to me. Of course, the doll didn't have
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anything to do with it, Good Lord, okay. And volcanic
eruption in southwestern Iceland has prompted evacuations, including nearby sites
like the Blue Lagoon. Isn't John going to the Blue
Lagoon when he goes to Iceland? I think that's where.
Oh yes, yeah, he's supposed to go to the Blue Lagoon.
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They're supposed to bathe in it or something. I don't know.
I forget what he advertised. It sounded nice, sounded relaxing.
But this is a volcano about thirty miles southwest of Ricovic,
the capital there that this volcano began erupting witch's hair
strands of volcanic glass, often produced by love. A fountaining
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activity was seen drifting in the wind. That's got to
be pretty cool. And then TikTok brings us a new trend.
It's called the fridge a cigarette, and like everything on TikTok,
the people behind it think that it's new. Oh, this
is new. We discovered this. It's new. It's not new.
We've called diet cokes fridge cigarettes for a long time.
We know what they do. We know what a diet
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coke brings to the party, specifically a cold diet coke
and a can. This is nothing new. We all know
it's not good for us. Just like a cigarette and
the colder, the better, which is why it's a fridge cigarette.
So that is old news. It's fake news, TikTok fake news.
When we come back, we will talk about something else
that I don't even know about. Oh, yes, we're doing
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the uh, we're doing the people hiring witches on Etsy.
This is pretty good. You can hire somebody to make
a spell for you. I'll tell you what these spells
are all about.
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Wan Noodi Pereira spent all spring looking for a job
but had no luck. She is a college sophomore in Queens,
and she did what many around her do when a
situation doesn't go her way. Whan Noody paid a witch
on Etsy to cast a spell. Now you may thinking,
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what are you talking about? What many around her would do?
Who goes to Etsy to catch cast a spell? Well, guys,
it's on the TikTok. The concept of highiring an Etsy
witch hit a fever pitch when an influencer named Jazz
Smith told her TikTok followers that she had paid one
to make sure the weather was perfect during her Memorial
Day weekend wedding couple couple things. The weather's always perfect
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on Memorial Day. Save your money, use your witch money
for something else. But the blue skies and warm temperatures
that always come with Memorial Day have inspired TikTok audiences
to find Etsy witches of their own. It's very popular
right now. Wan Nooti said, the job market is terrible.
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I'm not getting any responses, so why not help myself
out if it doesn't work out? Oh well, it was
only fifteen dollars, she says. Some of her friends bought
Etsy spells during finals. She doesn't believe in witchcraft, but
she does believe in manifesting, you know, envisioning the desired outcomes.
But the day the Etsy witch casts the Wanudi got
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a job from Whole Foods, where she's now an employee. People,
they say, faced with economic uncertainty and vapid dating apps,
are putting their beliefs and disposable income into these love spells,
career charms, spirit cleansers, and Etsy seems to be the
place to procure said remedies. Etsy, which you usually go
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to for crafts vintage stuff right, has long bent home
to psychics and mystics. Apparently, Roheit Taiwani is a creative
director here in Los Angeles and says he paid an
Etsy witch eight dollars and forty eight cents to cast
a spell on the New York Knicks ahead a Game
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five of the Eastern Conference Finals in May. He found
a witch offering discount codes. He was half kidding about
the trans action. Wouldn't that be a fun thing to post?
H I hired an Etsy witch to secure a Knicks
Game five win. So it was kind of tongue and cheap,
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but he was amazed when the Knicks won, and he thought,
maybe there's something more cosmic out there. He bought a
second spell from Etsy from a witch for Game six,
but the Knicks lost. I guess it's a form of gambling,
isn't it. And it's what we all gamblers know. You
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get lucky on one game and you roll the dice,
you roll it over. You're like, Oh, this gambling thing's easy. Ah,
this hiring a witch for winning games? Is easy. It's not.
He says. He doesn't rule out the possibility that the
Pacers fans used their own devil magic. Maybe there is
something to all those Kansas City Chiefs memes. The ones
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of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and the dune wearing
demonic hoods, firesticks, the whole bit. Maybe this is what
they're into Etsy Witches. Maybe Tom Brady's not really drinking
the blood of his kids to stay young. Maybe he's
into Etsy Witches. Magic practitioners are selling their wares on
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Instagram and Shopify and TikTok, but customers say Etsy is
the place to go. The shop Mariah Spells has over
four thousand sales on Etsy. It's got four point nine stars,
and it sells a permanent protection spell for about two
hundred dollars. I don't know why you wouldn't just get
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one of those evil eye necklaces or bracelets, right, same
kind of deal protects you. Another shop Spells by Carlton.
I don't know if I'd go to a psychic named
Carlton or a witch named Carlton. I feel like Carlton
would be my personal shopper. If I needed a, you know,
a floral dress for memorial for that Memorial Day wedding.
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I won't go to a Carlton for that kind of thing.
I think I need something a little bit more exotic,
not something as conservative. But spells by Carlton has over
forty four thousand sales and lists a bring your ex
lover back spell for about seven dollars. My goodness. You know,
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there's a lot of red flags that pop up if
you're trying to get an ex lover back. There's a
reason why y'all are no longer together, right, And if
you're still hoping and pining that it's gonna happen, you
know it's time to move on. Probably if you're going
to spells by Carlton on Etsy and uh, buying a
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bring your ex lover back spell, I don't know. I
mean maybe that's a pick up the phone and call
a friend at that point, save your seven bucks, get
a coffee. But do you do you? You do you?
By the way, the witches running Mariah Spells and spells
by Carlton did not respond to requests for comment by
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the Wall Street Journal reporter who did this article. On
its page of house rules, Etsy does prohibit metaphysical services,
including spell casting.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The platform does allow readings that don't promise metaphysical outcomes.
How can you promise a metaphysical outcome? Isn't that the
whole bit? They stipulate that items sold must include a
tangible good, but many shops on Etsy still promise love,
success and revenge. Revenge is a big one, but there
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are a number of people in flux of people buying
spells that help people be confident physically and mentally and
using their own power to allure. It's like teen Witch
with the necklace and the medallion, using that inner power,
I think was the whole takeaway from the Teen Witch movie. God,
what a great movie, what a great major motion picture.
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But back to revenge. There was another article about revenge
and Slate today and they said that the headline grabbed
me and it was one of the most red articles
according to Apple News this morning. And the headline was,
you know, your brain on drugs looks like this, and
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there's only one other way it's going to get that
screwed up, essentially was what the headline said. So I click,
I'm like, what is it? What makes my brain look
like it's on drugs? What makes my brain hyper focused
on something the way it would be hyper focused on
getting more drugs? And it's revenge And there's a lot
of science behind it.
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Imagine you've got two adorable pets. You've got a dog
named Harley and a cat named Lucy. They were shelter animals.
You rescued them, You nurse them back to health. They
had both been abused. You love them very much. They
love you. They're part of your family. You're called out
of town on a family emergency, so you're rushing around
to get your things, and you're like, oh my gosh,
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who's gonna take care of the pets? And there's a
guy named Billy who lives next door in the apartment building.
He seems cool, and you're like, can you take care
of my cat and dog? Be away for a couple
of days. You know he's done stuff for you before
and vice versa, and he agrees. You return longer than
you anticipated several days later, and you find your cat
asleep in your apartment, but Harley, a dog, is not there.
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You're like, where the hell's Harley? Go to Billy's apartment
and where's Harley? Do you have Harley? And Billy's like,
you know what, I'm so sorry, but Harley broke free
during a walk. He ran away. I've been looking everywhere.
I have not been able to find him. I'm so sorry,
He seems ashamed. He offers to help you continue searching,
and you're just your heartbroken. Can imagine a week later,
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a guy named Sean knocks at your door. He seems wasted.
He asks if you can get him another bait dog
like the one you gave Billy. Like, what is he
talking about? And Sean explains that he and Billy love
dog fighting and that Sean trains his champion dog by
putting weaker dogs in the ring with him. And Shawn says,
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a Billy told him he got a scrawnee dog from
you a couple weeks ago. They put it in the
ring and well, the scrawnie dog didn't farewell, and he
asks him, can you get me another bait dog? I mean,
we're all just disgusted right now, right horrified. Tell Sean
to leave you confront Billy. He denies anything, but he's nervous.
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You threaten to call the police, and just the feeling
bubbling up is just you want revenge against Billy. Well,
the researcher that wrote this is doing his work at
the Yale School of Medicine and they use a version
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of this story in a study to find that participants
revenge urges towards Billy's sword, and that when they read
the story to a group of about one hundred psychiatrists
at the American Psychiatric Association convention asks them what punishment
Billy should receive. The most popular suggestion among the doctors
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was that he should be locked in a cage with
vicious dogs and torn to pieces. That's the way we
all feel. The desire for revenge is the root motivation
for almost all forms of human violence, from childhood bullying
to intimate partner violence, urban violence, police boutraality, all of it.
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They always believe their victims seeking justice, and recent neuroscience
discoveries show a very chilling picture. Your brain on revenge
looks like your brain on drugs. Brain imaging that shows
grievances real or imagined, of injustice, disrespect, betrayal, shame, victimization
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that they activate the pain network, specifically the anterior insula.
The brain doesn't like pain, and it tries to rebalance
itself with pleasure, and pleasure can come from many things,
but humans have evolved to feel intense pleasure from hurting
people who hurt us. Over the past two decades, more
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than sixty neuroscientists at universities across the world have conducted
these brain scan studies, demonstrating that when you've been wronged
and begin to think about retaliating, the brain's pleasure and
reward sir a tree of addiction awakens. When you think
about carrying out revenge, you're getting a hit, and this,
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by the way, develops into a habit. Dopamine levels appear
to surge and crash, producing the familiar sensation of craving.
But unlike other addictions, to gratify revenge cravings, you've got
to hurt the people who hurt you, and when you do,
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you experience pleasure for a while. Even when you realize
that that is not making you feel good, you continue
to do it because your brain tells you that it's good.
Your brain tells you it's reminded that that felt good,
but it didn't. It's just like any other addiction, right.
The ability, the inability excuse me, the inability to resist
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powerful urges despite the negative consequences that you know are coming.
They say that this is the primary motive for almost
all forms of violence like I mentioned, but for the
first time in human history, scientists say, we can now
develop public health approaches to prevent and treat the violence.
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They say, on the prevention side, this might include things
like school programs public health campaigns to learn about the
addictive dangers and risks of using revenge. They sit. On
the treatment side, interventions could include revenge addiction, counseling, peer support,
all the things. But here's here's an easy way to
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go about it. Easy being the operative word. Neuroscientists have
discovered a different, more potent, and widely available remedy for revenge,
and it's right inside your brain. Forgiveness. Researchers conducting these
brain studies have discovered that when you say, simply imagine
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forgiving a grievance, you deactivate that brain pain network. You
stop rather than merely cover up the pain of the grievance.
You shut down the brain's pleasure and reward circuitry, which
stops all of those revenge desires. You activate your prefrontal cortex,
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which gives you self control. You can make good decisions.
They said. In other words, neuroscience shows us that forgiveness
is a sort of wonder drug that stops pain, stops
revenge craving, restores rational thinking. Helps set you free from
all the wrongs and the traumas. But that's the key.
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It's very difficult. And whoever you want to listen to,
you know, whether it's Jesus or Buddha, they all say
the same thing. They've been saying this thing, you know
for you know, the whole, the whole, you know ad situation,
all those years saying the same thing. No matter who
you listen to, the wise ones will tell you got
to forgive people or else you're going to make yourself crazy.
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But like I said, it's easier said than done. Right,
let's talk about TV and movies. What is everybody watching
right now? I am into all the period shows. I've
got the Gilded Age, I've got the Buccaneers still trying
to finish Downton Abbey from five hundred years ago. And
just like that is another thing, what are you watching?
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Let us know at Gary and Shannon and we'll get
into what's hot. Right now, you're.
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Speaker 1 (21:48):
Somebody failed to understand Lane, you know, changing and flips
me off for being an idiot, and I was at
the idiot. He was the idiot as I flip him
right back off because he deserved it. And then and
then I felt bad about it and feel good about it,
you know, But like what am I supposed to just
forgive him in that moment and this move about my
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day without getting the satisfaction in the moment of flipping
him the bird? I guess, I guess That's what I'm
going to have to do. It's time for what you
watch it Wednesday.
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The following program is brought to you in living color.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But you watching in the Americans love television.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
They win their kids collar USA television.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Man, you've been watching too many of those live television shows.
All right, gang, what are we watching? Elmer? What are
you into right now?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I'm watching season two of Sandman and I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Sandman, tell me about that? What's that promise?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
So it's like a dream god and a bunch of
other eternal beings are like playing, you know, gods to
like mortals and jumping around to different realms. Like the
main characters. It's like really ominous, skinny dude, pale white.
He looks like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like a oh yeah, I just pulled up a picture
of him. Yea, yeah, that looks cool. Right.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
So it's a really good show and it's on season two,
and it's like if you're into like gothic architecture and
like going to hell and like seeing demons and you know,
very good cgi you know, it's it's your all.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, if you're interested in going to hell, check out
Elmer's show The sand Man. Where do people find this
on Netflix? On Netflix? Okay, all right? Based off a
comic book from the early nineties. I see, Well that'll
be cool, all right, anything else?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, so funny enough. Then there's this Korean show about
going to heaven. So here's the theme, you know, heaven
and how sure And this one is called Heavenly ever
After And it's a Korean drama about this loan shark
old lady who dies and goes to heaven but her
husband decided, well I don't want to spoil it, but
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it's great.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I am all in on that. I will watch that.
That's on Netflix as well.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, and the opening, like literally just watch it for
the opening because it looks like an anime opening. It's
like super cute. It's like Sailor Moon mixed in with
something else. It's like The sound design for the opening
is just hella cute.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Here is a little tease. A loving couple face life's
ups and downs together until death separates them. When they
finally reunite in heaven, the husband is in his thirties
while the wife is in her eighties. It's fascinating. I
love that kind of stuff. What was the movie? I
love the afterlife movies, and there was one. Ken loved
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it too, and I am going to screw it up.
I want to say it was early nineties and it
was with Oh my god, anyway, I'm gonna ruin it
and I don't want to ruin it it. Guy and
a girl end up in their middle aged and they
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die and they end up falling in love or what
have you. But there's these people up there who will
go through like there's a whole file of how you've
lived your life the whole time, and they'll be like, now,
what happened here, And they'll like it's almost like you know,
a tape or whatever of your whole life, and they'll
fast forward and rewind and be like, now, when you
were twenty eight and this happened. It'll walk me through
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that to trying to decide if you should be there
or not. It's a I think Meryl Streep.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yes, it's defending Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Defending your Life. That was really good, such a great movie.
So I'm all in on that. I'm fascinated by afterlife
kind of stuff. Now does your girlfriend Diane does she
like the same stuff you like?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
We're We watched trashy reality TV and good TV and
it's just a mixture of you know, bad and good.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Where are you on Love Island? Are you up to
date on that?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Oh? Yeah, we finished that.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay, it's over.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Okay, did it just come to the end lately?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, it just ended I think last week. So now
we have to wait a month before they had the reunion.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh boy, I mean I see some things teased on
like TMZ and stuff of people who are still together,
people who are not things, people who were snubbed and
kicked off the island, and people are all upset about it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I tried. I tried because it's so popular, but
I just couldn't get past the dialogue.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, it's I can see I can see where you're
coming from with the it's it's uh you have to
like kind of turn off your brain.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah and yes, yeah, But the.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Thing is you go on TikTok and you watch people's
like theories, and then like it becomes a whole community thing.
So it's more about like being part of like the cult.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's what it is. It's the community. People are looking
for community and they should. That's good. Ke, What are
you into right now?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I'm kind of getting nostalgic and watching a bunch of
childhood cartoons. Okay, are you watching them? Just in general,
like in the background. I've been really into books more
than television. But last night I watched the train wreck
Poop Cruise.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, oh that was good.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And I will never go on a cruise ever.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah. You know, even when you are on a cruise
and you don't think about what's going on, you kind
of can't help but think about what's going on behind
the scenes. And uh and this from all accounts, this
documentary really exposes it, oh one hundred percent. It's it's
like it's.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
A worse nightmare come true when you're thinking of a cruise,
not that you're like sinking ship, but like ship sorry,
but like to have no electricity, to have no running
water or to be able to flush toilets, peeing in
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a shower and pooping in bags.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
That right, It's like it's like when bath salts were
in the news or people were just clamoring to get
their hands on bath salts despite all of the media
reports that some people when they take the bath salts
want to eat other people's faces. And like, my whole
problem with that was, yes, it'll get me high, But
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if there's even a chance that I'm gonna want to
eat someone else's face, like, I'm not taking that drug.
I'm not taking that chance, even if there's that fraction
of a chance that that's how my day is going
to end with me taking a chunk out of someone's
face with my teeth, Like, I'm not getting high off
that same thing with the cruise after watching this documentary,
you could have a wonderful vacation, but there's a fraction
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of a chance that you may end up peeing in
the shower, which is the least of it, and pooping
in bags.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Could you imagine, No, No, I won't even poop in
a in a port a body.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean, right, and then the smell, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
At one point the ship tilted, so then that's how
all of the feces and extrement got all over the ship.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It was it. It's I must watch.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Everybody needs to watch it because it's like horrifying but
so interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I haven't watched it because I remember covering it, like
I remember being in the news and covering it in
real time as it was happening. I mean, not covering
it like as a reporter on the scene, but I
think I was angering or whatever, just kind of following
what was going on with it. So I kind of
felt like I, and this happens with everything that there's
a documentar aroun where I feel like I know everything
about it, And then I watched a documentary. I'm like,
there's so much I didn't know, and this seems to
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be like one of them. But I just don't know
if I can like sit down and get in the
mood to watch the feces spread across the cruise ship
and the people with their mattresses on the balcony. He's
being inundated with the waste of Tom and Dick from Toledo, Ohio.
You know, like you know other people's face, like your
feces bad enough if that's a problem in your cabin
when you got other people like, oh my gosh, and
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it's it's not that bad.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like you're watching it and it's just following three people's
or three groups of people's stories and just their experience
on the cruise.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It doesn't show anything graphic or anything, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But it's just an interesting take on like our cruise
was going great and then all of a sudden it
wasn't going great, and this is what we had to
do and how we were feeling and what wash.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh god, it's and then I just interest, I guess yeah,
and then I'm also thinking about if you're feeling sick
and all of this, Oh my god. All right, I'm
gonna go on home now. Uh John Covelt Show coming
up next. We will see you Tomorrow's stay dry out
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like a poor man's virgin river.
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It is.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It is the same executive director. Yeah, it's like when
we couldn't afford the good drugs anymore and now we're
like in the gutters of the street looking at Sullivan's crossing.
It's not that bad. It's it's still cute, but it's
no virgin referce. No, it's no virgin. It is and
it is, and we will watch our mouths. Also, I
just got this alert from Vanity Fair before she died.
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Queen Elizabeth's first cousin reveals what she really thought of
Harry and Megan. A confidant of the Queen believes Megan
and Harry's royal exit sullied an amazing rain. You see
what Gary missus out on when he leaves her vacation.
I will save this for him for when he comes
back in the meantime, what else is going on?
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While the storm over Jeffrey Epstein and what we don't
know because a government is keeping it away continues, President Trump,
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using his harshest words today as he lashed out at
what he calls weaklings who believe the Epstein bs. In
his words, they're now calling this the Maga rebellion, that
this is a growing swell of people who want the
government to stop protecting the government, elite, the powerful, covering
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up the powerful sins. And they're hardlining here because there's
a lot of people that believe Magabase, people that believe
that there is child ripe and all sorts of trafficking
things going on in those files that continue to be
covered up. So we will see what tomorrow will bring.
When it comes to the White House, they say at
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this point that they are going over options, including an
executive order about pedophilia. I don't think that is going
to quiet. Everybody who wants to know what Jeffrey Epstein knew. Also,
another option is a special prosecutor to go through the
evidence and decide what is relevant. That's the word that
keeps coming out from Speaker Mike Johnson and the President himself.
(02:38):
With regard to Pambondi, the AG releasing any information, Trump
said she should release any relevant information. So I guess
it goes into the definition of what you think is relevant.
The Pentagon announced that it will release two thousand National
Guard troops from LA. Of course they were federalized deployed
(02:59):
to LA and early June, so that is finally over.
We've got five people that have been detained in connection
to the death of a young boy who was found
inside a dumpster in Panorama City over the weekend. Officers
responded about seven am. They say that the reports were
about a child between the ages of five and six.
(03:20):
By yesterday, stuffed animals, candles, notes, flowers, other items left
at the location. Apparently police arrived there on a tip.
Two children were present in the unit that they got
the tip about. They were taken into custody by CPS
and a man and a woman were detained and then
(03:40):
apparently two more. We don't know the relationship of the
adults to the little boy that was found dead, but
hopefully get more answers on that one. This is a
story that caught my eye yesterday. A paranormal investigator by
the name of Dan Rivera was on tour with his
haunted doll. This is a doll that's rumored to be
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possessed by evil spirits, and the paranormal investigator has turned
up dead fifty four years old. His death was nothing suspicious,
they say. The coroner's office and the state police are investigating.
There will be an autopsy done. The Annabelle doll, if
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you're wondering, was not present at the scene. He was
found alone. They say that annabel may have been inside
a van in the hotel parking lot, though though they
cannot officially confirm the doll's location, the fact that this
much about the doll, and the presence of the doll,
or the lack thereof, in connection with the dead body
is shocking to me. Of course, the doll didn't have
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anything to do with it, Good Lord, okay. And volcanic
eruption in southwestern Iceland has prompted evacuations, including nearby sites
like the Blue Lagoon. Isn't John going to the Blue
Lagoon when he goes to Iceland? I think that's where.
Oh yes, yeah, he's supposed to go to the Blue Lagoon.
(05:07):
They're supposed to bathe in it or something. I don't know.
I forget what he advertised. It sounded nice, sounded relaxing.
But this is a volcano about thirty miles southwest of Ricovic,
the capital there that this volcano began erupting witch's hair
strands of volcanic glass, often produced by love. A fountaining
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activity was seen drifting in the wind. That's got to
be pretty cool. And then TikTok brings us a new trend.
It's called the fridge a cigarette, and like everything on TikTok,
the people behind it think that it's new. Oh, this
is new. We discovered this. It's new. It's not new.
We've called diet cokes fridge cigarettes for a long time.
We know what they do. We know what a diet
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coke brings to the party, specifically a cold diet coke
and a can. This is nothing new. We all know
it's not good for us. Just like a cigarette and
the colder, the better, which is why it's a fridge cigarette.
So that is old news. It's fake news, TikTok fake news.
When we come back, we will talk about something else
that I don't even know about. Oh, yes, we're doing
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the uh, we're doing the people hiring witches on Etsy.
This is pretty good. You can hire somebody to make
a spell for you. I'll tell you what these spells
are all about.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
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Wan Noodi Pereira spent all spring looking for a job
but had no luck. She is a college sophomore in Queens,
and she did what many around her do when a
situation doesn't go her way. Whan Noody paid a witch
on Etsy to cast a spell. Now you may thinking,
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what are you talking about? What many around her would do?
Who goes to Etsy to catch cast a spell? Well, guys,
it's on the TikTok. The concept of highiring an Etsy
witch hit a fever pitch when an influencer named Jazz
Smith told her TikTok followers that she had paid one
to make sure the weather was perfect during her Memorial
Day weekend wedding couple couple things. The weather's always perfect
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on Memorial Day. Save your money, use your witch money
for something else. But the blue skies and warm temperatures
that always come with Memorial Day have inspired TikTok audiences
to find Etsy witches of their own. It's very popular
right now. Wan Nooti said, the job market is terrible.
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I'm not getting any responses, so why not help myself
out if it doesn't work out? Oh well, it was
only fifteen dollars, she says. Some of her friends bought
Etsy spells during finals. She doesn't believe in witchcraft, but
she does believe in manifesting, you know, envisioning the desired outcomes.
But the day the Etsy witch casts the Wanudi got
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a job from Whole Foods, where she's now an employee. People,
they say, faced with economic uncertainty and vapid dating apps,
are putting their beliefs and disposable income into these love spells,
career charms, spirit cleansers, and Etsy seems to be the
place to procure said remedies. Etsy, which you usually go
(08:28):
to for crafts vintage stuff right, has long bent home
to psychics and mystics. Apparently, Roheit Taiwani is a creative
director here in Los Angeles and says he paid an
Etsy witch eight dollars and forty eight cents to cast
a spell on the New York Knicks ahead a Game
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five of the Eastern Conference Finals in May. He found
a witch offering discount codes. He was half kidding about
the trans action. Wouldn't that be a fun thing to post?
H I hired an Etsy witch to secure a Knicks
Game five win. So it was kind of tongue and cheap,
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but he was amazed when the Knicks won, and he thought,
maybe there's something more cosmic out there. He bought a
second spell from Etsy from a witch for Game six,
but the Knicks lost. I guess it's a form of gambling,
isn't it. And it's what we all gamblers know. You
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get lucky on one game and you roll the dice,
you roll it over. You're like, Oh, this gambling thing's easy. Ah,
this hiring a witch for winning games? Is easy. It's not.
He says. He doesn't rule out the possibility that the
Pacers fans used their own devil magic. Maybe there is
something to all those Kansas City Chiefs memes. The ones
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of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and the dune wearing
demonic hoods, firesticks, the whole bit. Maybe this is what
they're into Etsy Witches. Maybe Tom Brady's not really drinking
the blood of his kids to stay young. Maybe he's
into Etsy Witches. Magic practitioners are selling their wares on
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Instagram and Shopify and TikTok, but customers say Etsy is
the place to go. The shop Mariah Spells has over
four thousand sales on Etsy. It's got four point nine stars,
and it sells a permanent protection spell for about two
hundred dollars. I don't know why you wouldn't just get
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one of those evil eye necklaces or bracelets, right, same
kind of deal protects you. Another shop Spells by Carlton.
I don't know if I'd go to a psychic named
Carlton or a witch named Carlton. I feel like Carlton
would be my personal shopper. If I needed a, you know,
a floral dress for memorial for that Memorial Day wedding.
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I won't go to a Carlton for that kind of thing.
I think I need something a little bit more exotic,
not something as conservative. But spells by Carlton has over
forty four thousand sales and lists a bring your ex
lover back spell for about seven dollars. My goodness. You know,
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there's a lot of red flags that pop up if
you're trying to get an ex lover back. There's a
reason why y'all are no longer together, right, And if
you're still hoping and pining that it's gonna happen, you
know it's time to move on. Probably if you're going
to spells by Carlton on Etsy and uh, buying a
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bring your ex lover back spell, I don't know. I
mean maybe that's a pick up the phone and call
a friend at that point, save your seven bucks, get
a coffee. But do you do you? You do you?
By the way, the witches running Mariah Spells and spells
by Carlton did not respond to requests for comment by
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the Wall Street Journal reporter who did this article. On
its page of house rules, Etsy does prohibit metaphysical services,
including spell casting.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The platform does allow readings that don't promise metaphysical outcomes.
How can you promise a metaphysical outcome? Isn't that the
whole bit? They stipulate that items sold must include a
tangible good, but many shops on Etsy still promise love,
success and revenge. Revenge is a big one, but there
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are a number of people in flux of people buying
spells that help people be confident physically and mentally and
using their own power to allure. It's like teen Witch
with the necklace and the medallion, using that inner power,
I think was the whole takeaway from the Teen Witch movie. God,
what a great movie, what a great major motion picture.
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But back to revenge. There was another article about revenge
and Slate today and they said that the headline grabbed
me and it was one of the most red articles
according to Apple News this morning. And the headline was,
you know, your brain on drugs looks like this, and
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there's only one other way it's going to get that
screwed up, essentially was what the headline said. So I click,
I'm like, what is it? What makes my brain look
like it's on drugs? What makes my brain hyper focused
on something the way it would be hyper focused on
getting more drugs? And it's revenge And there's a lot
of science behind it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
Imagine you've got two adorable pets. You've got a dog
named Harley and a cat named Lucy. They were shelter animals.
You rescued them, You nurse them back to health. They
had both been abused. You love them very much. They
love you. They're part of your family. You're called out
of town on a family emergency, so you're rushing around
to get your things, and you're like, oh my gosh,
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who's gonna take care of the pets? And there's a
guy named Billy who lives next door in the apartment building.
He seems cool, and you're like, can you take care
of my cat and dog? Be away for a couple
of days. You know he's done stuff for you before
and vice versa, and he agrees. You return longer than
you anticipated several days later, and you find your cat
asleep in your apartment, but Harley, a dog, is not there.
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You're like, where the hell's Harley? Go to Billy's apartment
and where's Harley? Do you have Harley? And Billy's like,
you know what, I'm so sorry, but Harley broke free
during a walk. He ran away. I've been looking everywhere.
I have not been able to find him. I'm so sorry,
He seems ashamed. He offers to help you continue searching,
and you're just your heartbroken. Can imagine a week later,
(15:08):
a guy named Sean knocks at your door. He seems wasted.
He asks if you can get him another bait dog
like the one you gave Billy. Like, what is he
talking about? And Sean explains that he and Billy love
dog fighting and that Sean trains his champion dog by
putting weaker dogs in the ring with him. And Shawn says,
(15:30):
a Billy told him he got a scrawnee dog from
you a couple weeks ago. They put it in the
ring and well, the scrawnie dog didn't farewell, and he
asks him, can you get me another bait dog? I mean,
we're all just disgusted right now, right horrified. Tell Sean
to leave you confront Billy. He denies anything, but he's nervous.
(15:53):
You threaten to call the police, and just the feeling
bubbling up is just you want revenge against Billy. Well,
the researcher that wrote this is doing his work at
the Yale School of Medicine and they use a version
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of this story in a study to find that participants
revenge urges towards Billy's sword, and that when they read
the story to a group of about one hundred psychiatrists
at the American Psychiatric Association convention asks them what punishment
Billy should receive. The most popular suggestion among the doctors
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was that he should be locked in a cage with
vicious dogs and torn to pieces. That's the way we
all feel. The desire for revenge is the root motivation
for almost all forms of human violence, from childhood bullying
to intimate partner violence, urban violence, police boutraality, all of it.
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They always believe their victims seeking justice, and recent neuroscience
discoveries show a very chilling picture. Your brain on revenge
looks like your brain on drugs. Brain imaging that shows
grievances real or imagined, of injustice, disrespect, betrayal, shame, victimization
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that they activate the pain network, specifically the anterior insula.
The brain doesn't like pain, and it tries to rebalance
itself with pleasure, and pleasure can come from many things,
but humans have evolved to feel intense pleasure from hurting
people who hurt us. Over the past two decades, more
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than sixty neuroscientists at universities across the world have conducted
these brain scan studies, demonstrating that when you've been wronged
and begin to think about retaliating, the brain's pleasure and
reward sir a tree of addiction awakens. When you think
about carrying out revenge, you're getting a hit, and this,
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by the way, develops into a habit. Dopamine levels appear
to surge and crash, producing the familiar sensation of craving.
But unlike other addictions, to gratify revenge cravings, you've got
to hurt the people who hurt you, and when you do,
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you experience pleasure for a while. Even when you realize
that that is not making you feel good, you continue
to do it because your brain tells you that it's good.
Your brain tells you it's reminded that that felt good,
but it didn't. It's just like any other addiction, right.
The ability, the inability excuse me, the inability to resist
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powerful urges despite the negative consequences that you know are coming.
They say that this is the primary motive for almost
all forms of violence like I mentioned, but for the
first time in human history, scientists say, we can now
develop public health approaches to prevent and treat the violence.
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They say, on the prevention side, this might include things
like school programs public health campaigns to learn about the
addictive dangers and risks of using revenge. They sit. On
the treatment side, interventions could include revenge addiction, counseling, peer support,
all the things. But here's here's an easy way to
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go about it. Easy being the operative word. Neuroscientists have
discovered a different, more potent, and widely available remedy for revenge,
and it's right inside your brain. Forgiveness. Researchers conducting these
brain studies have discovered that when you say, simply imagine
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forgiving a grievance, you deactivate that brain pain network. You
stop rather than merely cover up the pain of the grievance.
You shut down the brain's pleasure and reward circuitry, which
stops all of those revenge desires. You activate your prefrontal cortex,
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which gives you self control. You can make good decisions.
They said. In other words, neuroscience shows us that forgiveness
is a sort of wonder drug that stops pain, stops
revenge craving, restores rational thinking. Helps set you free from
all the wrongs and the traumas. But that's the key.
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It's very difficult. And whoever you want to listen to,
you know, whether it's Jesus or Buddha, they all say
the same thing. They've been saying this thing, you know
for you know, the whole, the whole, you know ad situation,
all those years saying the same thing. No matter who
you listen to, the wise ones will tell you got
to forgive people or else you're going to make yourself crazy.
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But like I said, it's easier said than done. Right,
let's talk about TV and movies. What is everybody watching
right now? I am into all the period shows. I've
got the Gilded Age, I've got the Buccaneers still trying
to finish Downton Abbey from five hundred years ago. And
just like that is another thing, what are you watching?
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Let us know at Gary and Shannon and we'll get
into what's hot. Right now, you're.
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Speaker 1 (21:48):
Somebody failed to understand Lane, you know, changing and flips
me off for being an idiot, and I was at
the idiot. He was the idiot as I flip him
right back off because he deserved it. And then and
then I felt bad about it and feel good about it,
you know, But like what am I supposed to just
forgive him in that moment and this move about my
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day without getting the satisfaction in the moment of flipping
him the bird? I guess, I guess That's what I'm
going to have to do. It's time for what you
watch it Wednesday.
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But you watching in the Americans love television.
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They win their kids collar USA television.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Man, you've been watching too many of those live television shows.
All right, gang, what are we watching? Elmer? What are
you into right now?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I'm watching season two of Sandman and I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Sandman, tell me about that? What's that promise?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
So it's like a dream god and a bunch of
other eternal beings are like playing, you know, gods to
like mortals and jumping around to different realms. Like the
main characters. It's like really ominous, skinny dude, pale white.
He looks like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like a oh yeah, I just pulled up a picture
of him. Yea, yeah, that looks cool. Right.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
So it's a really good show and it's on season two,
and it's like if you're into like gothic architecture and
like going to hell and like seeing demons and you know,
very good cgi you know, it's it's your all.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, if you're interested in going to hell, check out
Elmer's show The sand Man. Where do people find this
on Netflix? On Netflix? Okay, all right? Based off a
comic book from the early nineties. I see, Well that'll
be cool, all right, anything else?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, so funny enough. Then there's this Korean show about
going to heaven. So here's the theme, you know, heaven
and how sure And this one is called Heavenly ever
After And it's a Korean drama about this loan shark
old lady who dies and goes to heaven but her
husband decided, well I don't want to spoil it, but
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it's great.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I am all in on that. I will watch that.
That's on Netflix as well.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, and the opening, like literally just watch it for
the opening because it looks like an anime opening. It's
like super cute. It's like Sailor Moon mixed in with
something else. It's like The sound design for the opening
is just hella cute.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Here is a little tease. A loving couple face life's
ups and downs together until death separates them. When they
finally reunite in heaven, the husband is in his thirties
while the wife is in her eighties. It's fascinating. I
love that kind of stuff. What was the movie? I
love the afterlife movies, and there was one. Ken loved
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it too, and I am going to screw it up.
I want to say it was early nineties and it
was with Oh my god, anyway, I'm gonna ruin it
and I don't want to ruin it it. Guy and
a girl end up in their middle aged and they
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die and they end up falling in love or what
have you. But there's these people up there who will
go through like there's a whole file of how you've
lived your life the whole time, and they'll be like, now,
what happened here, And they'll like it's almost like you know,
a tape or whatever of your whole life, and they'll
fast forward and rewind and be like, now, when you
were twenty eight and this happened. It'll walk me through
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that to trying to decide if you should be there
or not. It's a I think Meryl Streep.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yes, it's defending Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Defending your Life. That was really good, such a great movie.
So I'm all in on that. I'm fascinated by afterlife
kind of stuff. Now does your girlfriend Diane does she
like the same stuff you like?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
We're We watched trashy reality TV and good TV and
it's just a mixture of you know, bad and good.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Where are you on Love Island? Are you up to
date on that?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Oh? Yeah, we finished that.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay, it's over.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Okay, did it just come to the end lately?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, it just ended I think last week. So now
we have to wait a month before they had the reunion.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh boy, I mean I see some things teased on
like TMZ and stuff of people who are still together,
people who are not things, people who were snubbed and
kicked off the island, and people are all upset about it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I tried. I tried because it's so popular, but
I just couldn't get past the dialogue.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Yeah, it's I can see I can see where you're
coming from with the it's it's uh you have to
like kind of turn off your brain.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah and yes, yeah, But the.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Thing is you go on TikTok and you watch people's
like theories, and then like it becomes a whole community thing.
So it's more about like being part of like the cult.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's what it is. It's the community. People are looking
for community and they should. That's good. Ke, What are
you into right now?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I'm kind of getting nostalgic and watching a bunch of
childhood cartoons. Okay, are you watching them? Just in general,
like in the background. I've been really into books more
than television. But last night I watched the train wreck
Poop Cruise.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Oh yeah, oh that was good.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And I will never go on a cruise ever.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah. You know, even when you are on a cruise
and you don't think about what's going on, you kind
of can't help but think about what's going on behind
the scenes. And uh and this from all accounts, this
documentary really exposes it, oh one hundred percent. It's it's
like it's.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
A worse nightmare come true when you're thinking of a cruise,
not that you're like sinking ship, but like ship sorry,
but like to have no electricity, to have no running
water or to be able to flush toilets, peeing in
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a shower and pooping in bags.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
That right, It's like it's like when bath salts were
in the news or people were just clamoring to get
their hands on bath salts despite all of the media
reports that some people when they take the bath salts
want to eat other people's faces. And like, my whole
problem with that was, yes, it'll get me high, But
(28:32):
if there's even a chance that I'm gonna want to
eat someone else's face, like, I'm not taking that drug.
I'm not taking that chance, even if there's that fraction
of a chance that that's how my day is going
to end with me taking a chunk out of someone's
face with my teeth, Like, I'm not getting high off
that same thing with the cruise after watching this documentary,
you could have a wonderful vacation, but there's a fraction
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of a chance that you may end up peeing in
the shower, which is the least of it, and pooping
in bags.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Could you imagine, No, No, I won't even poop in
a in a port a body.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean, right, and then the smell, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
At one point the ship tilted, so then that's how
all of the feces and extrement got all over the ship.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It was it. It's I must watch.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Everybody needs to watch it because it's like horrifying but
so interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I haven't watched it because I remember covering it, like
I remember being in the news and covering it in
real time as it was happening. I mean, not covering
it like as a reporter on the scene, but I
think I was angering or whatever, just kind of following
what was going on with it. So I kind of
felt like I, and this happens with everything that there's
a documentar aroun where I feel like I know everything
about it, And then I watched a documentary. I'm like,
there's so much I didn't know, and this seems to
(29:51):
be like one of them. But I just don't know
if I can like sit down and get in the
mood to watch the feces spread across the cruise ship
and the people with their mattresses on the balcony. He's
being inundated with the waste of Tom and Dick from Toledo, Ohio.
You know, like you know other people's face, like your
feces bad enough if that's a problem in your cabin
when you got other people like, oh my gosh, and
(30:12):
it's it's not that bad.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like you're watching it and it's just following three people's
or three groups of people's stories and just their experience
on the cruise.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It doesn't show anything graphic or anything, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But it's just an interesting take on like our cruise
was going great and then all of a sudden it
wasn't going great, and this is what we had to
do and how we were feeling and what wash.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh god, it's and then I just interest, I guess yeah,
and then I'm also thinking about if you're feeling sick
and all of this, Oh my god. All right, I'm
gonna go on home now. Uh John Covelt Show coming
up next. We will see you Tomorrow's stay dry out
(30:57):
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