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September 10, 2025 28 mins
NATO Says It Scrambled Fighter Jets to Shoot Down Russian Drones Over Poland. Kamala Book Excerpt: “Reckless”. 3I/Atlas Update: It’s changing shape!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Big thank you again to Conan Nolan, the chief political
reporter over at KNBC for us sitting in with us
for an hour and let me ask him a bunch
of questions about stuff. There are a few stories that
By the way, that artist that you just heard, Elmer
just told me that that is David that D four VD.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's a spell's name. That's how he whatever. Yes, you
get it.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
But that's the guy who owns the tesla that had
a dismembered woman in it. He's been on tour, so
I don't know if he's connected to this thing. They
have said that he's cooperating. But if you saw that
story a Hollywood tow company on Mansfield Avenue, there was
a bad smell coming from one of those towed cars,

(00:52):
happy to be a tesla and it happy to be
a body in it. Yesterday, by the way, a second
body found inside ant To Civic that was towed a
couple of weeks ago. That Honda Civic is connected to
a missing persons report. They said it's probably not connected
to the Tesla and to David. By the way, Larry
Ellison surpassed Elon Musk as the world's richest person today.

(01:15):
It's nice if your stock portfolio goes up about one
hundred and one billion dollars in a day. The eighty
one year old chairman of Oracle was number two yesterday
Larry Ellison was, but the net worth as of this morning,
as of about ten o'clock this morning was at three
hundred and ninety three billion dollars. That's ahead of Elon

(01:38):
Musk at three eighty five. So and again, Ellison's wealth
went up by one hundred and one billion dollars today,
making it the biggest one day increase in the history
of the Bloomberg Billionaire's Index. Also a blast from the past,
Oliver North married Fawn Hall. Of course Oliver North from

(02:05):
way back in the Iran Kantra affair. Fan Hall was
the woman who was shredding all the documents allegedly and
was his secretary. I believe they got married like two
weeks ago. He's eighty one. I think she's in her sixties.
When CNN tried to call Oliver North to get a comment,
all he said was Frankly, my dear, I don't give

(02:25):
a damn all right, big news going on out of Poland.
Poland borders Ukraine. Ukrainian military says that there was a
Russian drone attack overnight. A few hundred, more than four
hundred drones flown over Ukrainian territory and some of them,

(02:46):
maybe as many as twenty of them, made their way
into Polish air space.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Also, it is remarkable, unprecedented, frankly, to have NATO jets
scrambled to defend their own airspace and to shoot down
Russian air in this case. Or we don't know the
precise number of drones where we do know that Poland
is talking about nineteen separate intrusions and seven drones being
shot down. Now that's important because, as we were just

(03:11):
hearing from NATO defense ministers and NATO officials, this will
be the first time, certainly since the starts of Russia's
invasion of Ukraine, that they've had to act in this
defensive way shooting down Russian aircraft.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, it's also the first time in the history of
the North Atlantic Treaty organization that Alliance jet fighters engaged
enemy targets in Allied airspace. This does not end well.
This is a provocation that I don't think people saw coming.
I guarantee the White House did not see this coming.

(03:44):
Considering President Trump has been suggesting or was hoping, that
that summit in Alaska was going to portend some sort
of an end to the Russian aggression in Ukraine. This
is also not going to end well because Poland has
the option of asking NATO to get NATO involved. Donald

(04:09):
Tusk funny that it's very similar to our leader, but
Donald Tusk is the Prime Minister of Poland and said,
we are dealing with a large scale provocation. The situation
is serious. No one doubts that we must prepare for
various scenarios.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
The one thing that's been going on in Europe that
has been sort of under the radar in terms of
reporting here in the United States is they're preparing for this.
They have been thinking that whatever aggression Russia has been
taking out on Ukraine is not going to end at
the borders of Ukraine, that Poland, that Romania, that other

(04:45):
countries in that region are at very much at risk
of Russian aggression spilling over, whether whether intentional or not,
spilling over into this into those trees, and there's a
professor of defense analysis working for SKY and he was

(05:08):
a guy named Michael Clark.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Loved the name.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
He gave his two cents on what this means for
the future of NATO, for the future of relations within
that area of Europe.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
And those nineteen or twenty went in some circular movements.
They sort of went in a big arc and landed
in three or four different places just on the border.
And so we've seen the debris of different drones. There's
some debris of a missile. Nobody quite knows what that
missile is yet, but it will be identified, I'm sure
in the next hour. And some of the footage that

(05:42):
we've got is certainly of a Jibbero drone, which is
a which is a decoy drone made to look like
a Juran tu one of the New Shahied type drones,
and the Gibbeo drone has now been positively identified. These
are very cheap drones. So the fact that there were
so many and they obviously came over the Polish side
of the border. They've landed some of them inside the

(06:04):
Polish board, in some cases quite deep inside that in
itself shows you how deliberate this was. This is no misfire,
this is no navigational problem. There's bits of debris across
at least four locations in Poland.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now his reference there by the way to a navigational problem.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Belo.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Russian officials have suggested that maybe this was our fault,
ours being you know, Ukrainian allies, that somehow our equipment
scrambled the navigational abilities of these drones and forced them
into Poland. And he's saying, listen, if it's a onesie
or a TWOZI, maybe that's the case. But because there's

(06:45):
nineteen or twenty of these things and the potential for JOI,
there too have been a missile involved in this as well,
that this was a deliberate provocation on behalf of Russia.
So what next steps are there? I'll tell you what
the head of NATO is saying and what other countries
are doing. Plus we understand that the White House says
that Donald Trump will be talking with Donald Tusk, Donald

(07:08):
Tusk of course again the Polish Prime Minister.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
We'll do all of that when we come back.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
The NYPD, the New York Police Department, says they're looking
into an alleged bomb thread. Of course, things get tense
there right around this time of year every year. Of course,
we're getting close to the twenty fourth anniversary the September
eleventh attack, Tomorrow You and General Assembly is coming up,
the upcoming Jewish High holidays. The police commissioner there for

(07:40):
the NYPD noted that threats usually increase around these weeks
that kind of surround September eleventh, the You and General
Assembly and the high holidays, etc. They said they're going
to be taking extra precautions this year, specifically in New York.
They're going to be monitoring threats to critical infrastructure throughout
New York, including bridges, tunnels that would link Queens to Manhattan, etc.

(08:05):
President Trump went out to dinner last night. If you
have seen this coverage, some of his members of the cabinet.
They went to Joe's Seafood, a little placed next to
the White House. They were interrupted by protesters, as you
can imagine. He was flanked by Vice President jd Vance,
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary Defense Pete hegseeth I,
don't know who paid the check, I can guess. And

(08:27):
the Angels got back and went over the Twins twelve
to two yesterday. They'll play this afternoon down in Anaheim
one oh seven. First pitch. Dodgers beat the Rockies seven
to two. That will be a seven to ten first pitch.
A reminder that our news and bruises coming up a Monday,
September twenty second, less than two weeks and yes it
is a Monday.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
We could still have fun on a Monday.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Bjay's Restaurant and Brewe House in West Covina, the one
theyre on Eastland Center Drive. We'll do the show live
out there from nine to one. We've got some stuff
we like to give away, so we'll give it away
to the people who show up in the building.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Got to be in the building if you're going to win.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
The big deal today is that NATO fighter jets shot
down multiple Russian drones that violated Polish airspace during an
attack on Ukraine. The Military Alliance denounced Moscow said that
this was an absolutely dangerous behavior that ratchets up tensions
to a whole new level. I wanted to play for
you just a quick update from Brett McGirk. Brett McGirk

(09:24):
we heard from yesterday, a former coordinator for the National
Security Council and a specialist in the Middle East and
in Northern Europe et CE his explanation of what we
saw in these at least nineteen, maybe more Russian drones
violating Polish airspace.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
This drone warfare is what it is coming fast. Just
for some numbers, the last six months of last year,
the Russians fired about eight thousand drones in Ukraine. The
first six months of this year the numbers above twenty thousand.
They are mass producing these. The Iranians have transferred to
technology to Russia. This is coming out as fast. And

(10:02):
the fact that we're using F thirty five's in NATO
airspace to take down these these shothead drones.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
We used to call them flying lawnmowers.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
He used to sometimes target our troops interact and sere
that is not a cost of effective way to get
at this. The three largest attacks of the war from
Russia have been between June and August, the largest attacks
of the war. Yes, these massive missile and drone swarms
coming into Ukraine. So Putin is escalating.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
He's all in.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
He seems to be making a mockery of this diplomatic process,
and I think it's time to recalculate.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Really, the only statement that we've heard out of our
White House so far is that Trump's response is quote,
here we go. Now.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't know if that means that we, as the
United States would respond, if we wearing the mantle of
NATO might respond. But according to reports, Poland has formally
invoked Article four NATO's Article four citing a threat to
national s security. Article four and Article five are slightly different,
well not slightly, but NATO Article four would allow any

(11:07):
member of NATO to bring issues that threaten its territorial
integrity to NATO for formal consultation. That means they would
talk about potential coordinated action without actually getting into a
military response. And again it's not necessarily certain what the

(11:27):
response might be. It is the political tool that is
sort of just under Article five. It does not automatic
Article four does not automatically trigger a NATO wide defense response.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Article five would.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Article five more generally says something like an attack on
one of us is an attack on all of us,
and we, as NATO can respond militarily. This is again
a mechanism for consultation. It's just an opportunity for the
NATO allies to come together and say, Okay, now what
are we going to do. I can't understate again what

(12:07):
the sentence that I saw in the New York Times
today describing this first thing this morning.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And it's the.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
First time in the history of the alliance, the first
time since NATO was developed, that NATO fighter jets engaged
enemy targets in Allied airspace.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That is not good.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
If there was any hope that this Ukrainian, the Russian
threat to Ukraine and other countries in that area, if
it was going to diminish. As Brett McGirk just said,
this is an escalation that Putin may have been planning
for some time, just to test what kind of resolve

(12:49):
NATO allies have. So we'll see keeping an eye on
the White House, and if we hear anything out of it,
we're definitely going to talk about it when we get
into swamp Watch at the top.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Of the hour.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
A remind, by the way, if you're interested, I don't
know many people who are jumping over themselves to get
to the new Kamala Harris book, but it does come
out September twenty third, and this next couple of days.
In two weeks, you're going to see drips and drabs
of excerpts that come out from her book One hundred
and seven days. She is pulling no punches, and one

(13:24):
writer who's gone through some of this book already has said,
the biggest surprise is that there are surprises. They thought
that this was going to be a really boring, dry
look at one hundred and seven days of a losing
presidential election, but in fact, one of the first things
that comes out is that she thinks it was reckless

(13:45):
for the Democrats to allow Joe Biden and Jill Biden
to make the decision about whether to run again.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
We'll talk about that we come back.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Russian drones crossed into Poland overnight. European officials say that
this was a deliberate provocation on behalf of Russia, so
that caused NATO to send fighter jets to shoot them
down from F thirty five F sixteen so NATO spokesman
said it was the first time, first time that NATO
has confronted a potential threat in its airspace. The NATO

(14:22):
response raised some fears that war in Ukraine is going
to spill over to other countries. It's been growing in Europe,
of course, and I mentioned this while we were talking
about in the last couple segments. European countries, France, Germany,
the UK. They have been warning their citizens that this
is the closest we've been to continental conflict since World

(14:46):
War Two, so they're keeping their eyes out for it.
Baseball wise, the Angels did beat the Twins last night
twelve to two, got back at them for a shillaking
they took the night before, so they will play again
the this afternoon Angels Twins in Anaheim one oh seven,
first pitch, and then the Dodgers beat the Rockies last
night seven to two.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Those two teams play again later this evening.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Vice President Kamala Harris, former Vice president, is suggesting in
this book that's coming out in a couple of weeks
that the decision of Joe Biden to run for reelection
was reckless. How dare they now okay hold on a.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Second, Madam Vice President?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
There is an article in the Atlantic that is actually
they are the ones that published the first excerpt from
this book coming out. The book is called one hundred
and seven Days, and Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of the Atlantic,
writes a note before they publish the excerpt of the book,
and I'm going to read that to you because I
think it's important in terms of his attitude towards what

(15:49):
is in this book. He says, the biggest surprise in
Kamala Harris's forthcoming account of her rough and ready intense,
absurdly condensed campaign for president one hundred and seven Days,
maybe that it is filled with surprises. The biggest surprise
is that it's filled with surprises. Jeffrey Goldberg says, I
read it last week expecting loyally calibration and discretion. This

(16:13):
careful Harris is present, but so too is another Harris, blunt, knowing, fervent,
occasionally profane, slyly funny. As you will see in the
following excerpt and throughout this note newsworthy book, she no
longer seems particularly interested in holding back and again, reading

(16:34):
from Jeffrey Goldberg, editor of the Atlantic, his pre prologue,
perhaps to this excerpt, One hundred and seven Days, begins
with the events of twenty first, twenty twenty four, the
very late date on which Joe Biden told his vice
president and the world that he would exit the presidential race.
The chapter below details the events of the July twenty fourth,
as well as some of Harris's acute observations about the

(16:55):
absurdity and unprecedented nature of that political moment. Hundred and
seven Days will be released as Simon and Schuster blah
blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
So the in the I guess.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
The importance of clarifying what is editorial and what is not.
I will be playing music underneath the excerpts from the book.
And of all the people in the White House, Okay,
just to be clear, I'm reading from one hundred and

(17:26):
seven Days former Vice President Colin Harris, and of all
the people in the White House, I was in the
worst position to make the case that he should drop out.
I knew it would come off to him as incredibly
self survey. If I advised him not to run, he
would see it as naked ambition, perhaps as poisonous loyalty.

(17:53):
Even if my only message was don't let the other
guy win. It's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said
like a mantra, as if we had been hypnotized. Was
it grace or was it recklessness? In retrospect, I think

(18:13):
it was recklessness. Again, Now this is important because this
is a woman who has no love lost for the
Biden family, apparently.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
And if this is the first excerpt.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
The way book releases go is they get more salacious
the closer you get to the actual publishing date.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I mean, it's been published.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's waiting in the bookstores, I'm sure, and we are
going to see more and more of these excerpts come out.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
But I will continue.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
One hundred and seven days. Former Vice President Kamala Harrison
in retrospect, I think it was recklessness. The stakes were
simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have
been left to an end individual's ego and individual's ambition.
It should have been more than a personal decision. Now

(19:07):
I'm excited to well excited, it's not the word I
should use. I am interested, perhaps to see what goes
on in her brain about the party's decision not to
have any public input on who was going to be
the candidate. She continues, many people want to spin up

(19:30):
a narrative of some big conspiracy the White House to
hide Joe Biden's infirmity.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Here is the truth as I lived it.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Joe Biden was a smart guy with long experience and
deep conviction, able to discharge the duties of president.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
On his worst day.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
He was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment,
and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best.
But at eighty one, Joe got tired. That's when his
age showed in physical and verbal stumbles.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
I don't think it's any surprise that the.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Debate tobaccle happened right after two back to back trips
to Europe and a flight to the West Coast for
a Hollywood fundraiser. Okay again, right now, that part of it,
that part of it is interesting because she clearly thinks
that Joe and Jill should not have made the decision
that they made, which was to allow Joe Biden to
run for reelection at least as long as he did.

(20:34):
But she's going with what was the party mantra of
he was really tired.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
He was just tired. He was tired.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
We've all known people eighty years old. I mean, look,
President Trump is eighty years old. This is not lost
and it's not just a Biden specific thing. My father
died at the age of eighty two, and when through
bouts of tired and just fatigue bringing down mental acuity,

(21:07):
that just happens. It's this dumb, stupid meat bag that
we live in that deteriorates over time, and the stuff
at the top, the gray stuff at the top, deteriorates
like the rest of your body.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It happened.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
The idea that she's still going with the his age
showed in physical and verbal Sorry, his age showed in
physical and verbal stumbles. That's the party line that she's
still sticking to. I wonder if this means that she's
not gonna run for anything, if this is a book
that she thinks is a great idea that turns out

(21:46):
to be kind of tone deaf.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
We'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
But when we come back, we might not even get
to another election. Why because three I Atlas is still
hurtling towards Earth.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
You're listening to Arian Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Of course, as we've mentioned a couple of times, she's
taken care of mom. Mom's going through some medical stuff.
So our thoughts are with Shannon and mom Diane. We
will hear from Shannon again on Monday. They actually she's
going to be in Vegas, of all places, she's the
Chargers take on the Raiders next Monday night. So well,
she's going to be on the show on Monday, but

(22:26):
she'll be there from Allegiant Stadium. The big deal today
is the incursion of Russian drones into Poland airspace. Polish airspace,
Poland and NATO allies. I think there were some Danish
fighter jets that were also scrambled. They did shoot down
Russian drones. The Trump administration obviously is reacting as well

(22:50):
as Republicans and general. Senate Majority Leader John Thune indicated
that this could push forward some of the Russian sanctions
that have been talked about in Washington, DC. He says
there's a lot of discussion now around and we need
to move. The US ambassador to Nado, Matthew Whittaker, has
said that the United States stands with Poland and will
defend every inch of NATO territory. President Trump posted on

(23:13):
truth social quote, what's with Russia violating Poland's airspace with
drones and then he wrote, here we go, so we
shall see.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
We'll talk more about.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
It as we get into as we get into Swamp
watch at the top of the hour and talk more
about what's going on in Washington, DC. Also, LA police
have found another set of human remains in another car
that had been towed. Yesterday we were telling you that
the body of a dismembered woman who was found discovered,

(23:45):
was found discovered, was found in a trunk. I believe
even the fronk of a Tesla that had been towed
to Hollywood tow on Mansfield Avenue, and it had been
there for a few days. Obviously, human body decomposes, you
can smell it. They do not know anything about the
identity other than the gender. That car was registered to

(24:09):
a TikTok wrappers currently on tour said to be cooperating.
And then yesterday a body was found partially burned inside
a Honda Civic that had been towed about two weeks ago. Actually,
that Civic is connected to a missing person report and
is considered separate from the other car.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
That was towed from the Hollywood Hills.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
We've told you about three Eye Atlas, a team of
Austrian astronomers have captured the object three iye Atlas changing. Now,
if it's a comet, it's not supposed to change. If

(24:52):
it's a comet, it's just a big dumb rock rolling
through space. And if it's a comet, it has certain
characteristics that we can expect to see rather consistently. But
something's happening. It's changing shape and it's changing color.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
What I'm sorry? What?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, your eyebrows should be raised at this the Australia.
Austrian astronomers said that three I Atlas has turned green.
It was reddish now it's green. And oh, by the way,
it is also changing shape. Scientists said that's quite unusual

(25:40):
and not fully explained by the models that they have
when dealing with interstellar comets. An astronomer from Austria, Michael Yager, said,
doing the total lunar clips we captured a detailed image
of cometary I Atlas from Zadok Skies of Namibia. By

(26:02):
combining multiple exposures and blue, green and red light, VIVA
able to clearly see the comets catch gas rich coma.
It's hard to do.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Austria.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
The data that was released by the Atlas telescope team
also showed that the cloud of light around three Eye
Atlas grew faster when the object was far from the
Sun and slowed down as it approached. Now, the team
says this may have happened because the object shifted from

(26:35):
spreading sunlight off of red dust on its surface to
releasing small, bright, icy particles, which would make the plume
the surrounding plume a little bit more reflective. Okay, to
recalculate whatever you have planned over the next couple of
weeks and months. Three I Atlas is set to make

(26:56):
its closest approach to Earth on December nineteen teenth. Okay,
December nineteenth. That distance would be about one hundred and
sixty eight million miles. We have exactly one hundred days

(27:17):
to December nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
That's my birthday.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, happy birthday, can because you're going for a ride
on an interstellar comet or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
That would be a lifetime achievement. I guess.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I suppose it would be something to write home about.
The Harvard physicist Avi Lobe that we've talked about many times,
he seems to be the most skeptical about the comet theory.
He shared the team's developments in his latest blog post,
suggesting the transformation from red to the green blue colors
was because of the steep rise in the production of cyanide.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
As.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
This thing is getting closer to the sun. It's releasing
much more cyanide and nickel without any iron, and the
amount is increasing very sharply after pattern proportional to the
ninth power of its distance from the Sun.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay, I just hurt my brain.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't know exactly what that means other than it's
changing color and it's changing shape and we have one
hundred days to figure out what it is.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Okay. Nothing else going on.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Was that it's going to be like a week twelve,
week thirteen of the NFL season fourteen. Maybe so at
least we'll get part of the season. And when we
come back, Swamp watch justin Warshom's going to join us
a little bit later. We'll talk about a bunch of
stuff and what you watch Wednesday. Still coming up later
in the show, Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
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