December 16, 2025 • 31 mins
Gary & Shannon dive into the modern dating-app maze, learning how the algorithms actually work and why some dealbreakers (like dating a Seahawks fan) are apparently non-negotiable. They also tackle the ongoing grammar meltdown among younger daters, questioning how spelling, punctuation, and emojis factor into romance when first impressions happen on a screen
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
A bunch of stories that are going on today.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The economy lost one hundred five thousand jobs in October,
but added sixty four thousand jobs in November.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bureau of Labor Statistics catch.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It up on the information they're supposed to come out
during the government shutdown, So as of right now, the
unemployment rate is at four point six percent. That would
be a five sorry, four year high. Lizzo is celebrating
a legal victory. A judge dismissed allegations of fat shaming.
Do you remember three of her dancers sued her for
(00:43):
fat shaming and sexual harassment.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's awful, Lizzo.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
The fat shaming portions have been dropped, but the case
against her will continue over claims that three of the
dancers were subjected to sexual harassment.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh come on, you're not friends, You're not girlfriends unless
you've sexually harassed each other. I mean the technical term
like what girlfriends have not like commented. I mean, come on,
you know, like if I said to you, you know,
be you look hot? You'd be let and you and
(01:20):
you were creeped out by me. That's an actionable thing.
I would say that to Brigitta at work and it
would be fine. Like it could be considered sexual harassment.
But if I'm saying it to Brigitta, it's a compliment.
If I'm saying it to you, it's harassment. So it's
when you have girl on girl section, it's could come on.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Also depends on the power dynamic you're reporting me. I'll
die on the be you look.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hot, Hill, How did you get suspended for doing well
to a compliment? Go on Instagram, Gary and Shannon. You'll
find Phonsie and Sprinkles before we do. Trying to figure
out exactly where they are.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh boy, today today today.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Sprinkles and Phonsie are definitely getting some action.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Guys. Oh my god, you better go find those elves
or they really cause trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The monkey in the I don't know about the monkey,
but getting some action could mean anything.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
They could be on prize picks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They could be getting into some picks. They could the
action is a very vague term, right, Yeah, they could
be at the race track.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know. I don't know what those two are
up to.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's time for Luckily they've been separate in their activities.
Once they find each other and then and then they're
gonna pour gasoline on each other's fire and it's going
to be a mess.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm still in that lollipop here we.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Got The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
So how you train the squaw?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
a scupid.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Why have the people voted for you? With not swap watch?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So I started reading this article today from Vanity Fair,
and it's all about White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.
It was written by Chris Whipple, who wrote a book
called The Gatekeepers. It's considered sort of the best look
at White House chiefs of staff that have existed. President
(03:47):
Trump has called Susie Wiles the most powerful woman in
the world, arguably correct, considering she could influence global affairs
in a single phone call. Now, this article, it's a
two part article in Vanity Fair, describes Susie Wiles, what
her day is like, what her thoughts are, and her opinions.
(04:09):
The thing that's generating the most headlines is the opinions
that she apparently holds of some of the members of
the administration as of right now. I'll say first out
of the gate, she says, these words are taken out
of context and that this is a giant hit piece.
She's known inside the White House as a very careful operator.
(04:32):
Very few people say no to her because they don't
want to. They trust her. She has retained President Trump's
confidence for many reasons, but obviously part of it was
that she helped run his successful second campaign. Among other things,
she said about President Trump that he governs with a
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view that there's nothing he cannot do, nothing, zero, nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We've seen that we know that part of it. But
she says, quote.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
High functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general, their personalities are
exaggerated when they drink, and so I'm a little bit
of an expert in big personalities.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
She apparently grew up with Pat Summer.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, I didn't realize that that was her father. Yeah,
but said that there may be also So basically she's
she's saying that his personality, Donald Trump's personality is like
that of an alcoholic. Although famously he's a teetotaler. He
has I don't know if he's ever had an alcoholic drink,
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but I know he does not drink.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think the only.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I think the only well, I don't know about the only.
I think the major comparison there is narcissism, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Which is fine.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, in the greater context of what we've been
talking about, when issues of addiction come up, narcissism can
be one of those common traits.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
She said there may be an element of retribution in
some of those prosecutions that we've seen against the president's
political opponents.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Duh.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But she says people could think it does look vindictive,
speaking specifically about going after former FBI director James Tolmachus.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Also, like you'll see with alcoholics, he holds on to everything,
every slight, and he uses that even if this slight
happened thirty years ago, he's still thinking about it in
present time.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And maybe that's what she means as well.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
She says, I don't think he wakes up thinking about retribution,
but when there's an opportunity, he will go for it. Yeah.
Now again, because everything's about him, she says comments and
that's just about the president. She also talks about Jade
Vance being a conspiracy theorist, among others. She wrote on
(06:51):
X Today, which is the first time she's used that
platform in well over a year. She said the article
published is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and
the finest president, white House staff, and cabinet in history.
Significant context was disregarded, and much of what I and
others said about the team and the president was left
out of the story. What I understand is that these
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interviews that were done again with Chris Whipple from Vanity Fair,
the majority of them were done on Sunday afternoons after
the two of them went to church.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I'm surprised that she sat for Vanity Fair. Well, I
don't know what the expectation is when people.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
The Humanity Fair does great work, but just like every
other publication has been wildly politicized in recent years, they
do do great work, and they really do get to
the bottom and they used to do.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And you haven't read Vanity Fair in years. There's something
I want to know.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I like to know that somebody who is that close
to President Trump is somebody who doesn't pull punches, and
that he allows her and acknowledges it and lets her
in there. She goes on to say of Vice President Vance,
she said he had quote been a conspiracy theorist for
a decade and suggested that his evolution from being very
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critical of Donald Trump to being at least I mean
in position his closest ally was a political move for him.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The news this morning was that Marco Rubio said he
was not going to run for president if JD vances
in twenty twenty eight. A lot of people thought it
would be a real ding dong between the two of them.
As you can see in this administration, they're kind of
played off of each other.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Who's going to make my day today?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Kind of a thing with a healthy competition among sons.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But you know, you think about sons, then you think
about is Donald Trump Junior thinking about twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But Marco Rubio says if JD.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Vance runs, he will not now does Marco Rubio end
up on that ticket as a VP?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh, that would be an easy It would be easy.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It would be an easy choice for jd Vance trying
to see who's older between the two of them.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Marco Rubio is older.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Marco Rubio born in seventy one. Oh, yeah, by thirteen years.
I didn't realize that. Yeah, Jade Vancy's a child born
in the eighties, younger than you are.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, easy, easy, everyone's younger than me. I'm sorry, Grandma,
are you having a rough for sixty seven? Six seven?
What does that mean? Are you trying to make yourself
younger when you say things like that? Remember when Heather
Broker thought I was sixty seven? Oh that six seven? Oh,
that we never forget.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So. Nick Reiner, who was arrested on suspicion of killing
his parents, Rob Reiner Michelle Reiner taken to Twin Towers,
will not appear in court today for the first time,
does not have medical clearance for whatever reason, did not
get on the bus for some of medical reason to
take him to the courthouse. Prosecutors will be filing their case.
(10:07):
This afternoon, DA Nathan Hoffman will be holding a press conference.
We'll take it live here on KFI. We'll have all
of the very latest. He does have an attorney, Nick
Reiner does Alan Jackson, marguably the most high profile defense
attorney operating right now.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We heard him outside the courthouse. Have cleaned it up
a little bit this comment. Reporters, We're asking, what is
this lack of medical clearance?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Why is he here?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Cheverry inmate has to be medically cleared before they can
be transported to court.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
He has not been medically cleared.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's it. That's all he really said. He's not been
medically cleared. So we don't know what the details are
specifically about that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal, the
headline being this when mom takes over your dating profile. Now,
most people try to keep their families out of their
relationship business.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But some say goals.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They do things differently the kids these days, and they
are handing control of their dating profiles to mom. I
took control of one of my girlfriend's bumble I think
it was at the time, because she was just kind
of over it and she was like, I've had it
and I was like, oh, can I talk to these
people on behalf of you? Pretend that I'm you? And
(11:22):
She's like, have at it. It was a fun evening,
you know, a couple of pops. I'm engaging in dialogue.
It's all a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't hate the idea. She ended up meeting her
husband on there, but well, in this case, members of
the Allen family.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Danielle Allen's family gather in front of the TV on
Sunday nights, booing, shouting. A bunch of people cheer every
once in a while, but they're not watching football. They're
swiping through her bumble account. And Danielle's mom prefers, for example,
career driven driven men who don't make spelling or grammar errors.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Let me pull Let me pull over the car right there?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Go on, guys, young people in the other room, Yes,
spelling and grammar area errors. Are you doing that? Like
you know the rule but you're breaking it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm so old right now. I don't care what you're saying.
I don't I don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Are you doing it because you don't know, or you
doing it because I'm not talking about you specifically, But
you know like young people they text and all of this,
and they make spelling errors and grammar errors. And my
nephews do this, and I feel like they know better,
but they just don't care or it's not cool, Like
what's the deal with the spelling and the grammar mistakes?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I know what you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Mean, And it can be very annoying when you're reading
it and you don't understand, like it's like where's wheares?
Are like going to where?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like that's no punctuation?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's just.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I find myself doing it back to my nephews to
try to speak their language.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yes, that's what you gotta do, But then I don't
know if I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So then I feel like I should be teaching them,
but this is the way to do it, And then
I sound like my you know, not just my aunt,
but my great aunt.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
We live in a world with like spell check, so
they have the power to like have the words be correct,
So they do it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
They do for why because it's it's just like I
don't care that much, So I'm so cool. I don't
care that much, all right, So I should just remove
all everything I've learned and just make mistakes on purpose.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, No, you should, like hold.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I think on a dating app too. You should be
able to You should be spelling everything proper. You should
be able to sell yourself.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, there's no way I'm dating somebody who can't get
it together with punctuation or spelling or grammar.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I agreed. I mean, that's just I've.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Had dates like go like, oh yeah, I almost like
did a match with you because like you spelled something
wrong and I was just like, what that's happened multiple times?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, Okay, it's a thing. Well, that's good to know.
There is more to this.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean this idea that moms would take over your
dating profile. And again I'm not entirely opposed to this,
because if you look at the filters that your family
might have for you that you wouldn't have yourself, they
it might.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
End up being beneficial. I'll explain.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Nick Reiner was scheduled to make his initial appearance at
La Municipal Court this morning. Prosecutors have not formally filed
charges against him. As of yet, we do know that
La County DA Nathan Hockman is expected to give us
an update on the case coming up at one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Our time will carry it live.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Reiner was apparently is still in Men's Central Men's Central
Jail because he didn't get medical clear. It's to appear
in court today, according to his attorney.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Would you like your jeopardy question?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Before we dive back into mom taking over dating profiles?
The category is places to see C is in quotations
for six hundred dollars the letter C.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yes, okay, the letter C travelers can find the fun
in fungus at.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The annual Truffle Festival in this Australian capital.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Then Barra, Yes, what was that accent?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I'm sounds like an old Australian person, like very old,
like maybe near death.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Probably That's what I was going for. Old Australian yep.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Varra like Canterbury tells old English wand the sust shoota
the droops of March of sense.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
When Mom takes over your dating profile, Danielle, we mentioned
Danielle's thirty one years old and has her family help
her out and on Sundays after dinner they get together
throw the old profile up on the big screen and
get to it now. Danielle's mom, like we said Suzanne
or Susan, She prefers career driven men. She does not
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like spelling or grammatical errors. Danielle's sister is focus on
trying to find somebody for Danielle that could keep up
with her adrenaline junkie hobbies. Like one of her profile
picks is apparently her looks like repelling down a building
of some kind. Dad Dad gets in on this. Dad
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looks for signs that the match may butt heads with
her headstrong personality. Her brother tries to steer her away
from older men. Everyone from top to bottom in the
family says anybody who wants a non monogamous relationship is
off limits. She said very few people actually pass all
of those tests, But Danielle has then had the opportunity
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for the final veto on some of the choices. One
match an entomologist, she said, seemed especially promising, but when
Mom went on to check into bumble to check what
logged into bumble to check in, he was gone, and
Mom said her heart was broken.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, you can't get attached, mom.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Some parents when you show them, and again I think
we would react the same way. When you show them
what is on these dating profiles, parents are like, that's
a lot of drinking, or that's a lot of hunting,
or that's a lot of I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Whatever they're leading whatever they're leading in. Yeah, it can
be too much. For example, Lila Vankey's mom offered to
pay for a premium tier of the Hinge Dating?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Is that a guys dating people? Is that a racket
to get the.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Premium whatever it is? Yeah, but I don't I mean,
is it a racket? Like it's it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They get money, more money out of you for no
reason at all.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
You just think you're getting a premium experience.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
It just provides you, I guess with Like, it's it's
less limited, you know, like you would be able to
swipe through different profiles more as opposed to being limited
to like a few in a day or the twenty
four hour period.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh you're limited yeah, yeah to how many?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's let's just say you have like thirty or forty
likes so you can go through You're going through them
super quickly. Some people just like race through them if
you're really desperate. It's just I guess, yes, yes, but.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
You know what, also a few I want to say,
about a year or two back, you would be able
to swipe more frequent And then I want to say,
in the last few year or so, now it's to
the point where, like, let's say I'm having a conversation
with five people, and I don't respond back to those five,
it won't allow me to respond to new people until
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I respond back to that person.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
What.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yes, So they kind of want to make sure that
you're not just leaving people on red or you know,
ignoring that's really stupid.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, because you got.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
To fill a whole bench, like you know, you know,
you're not looking for one substitute. You gotta have a bench, does.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It They know that? Come on, man.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
One of the other one of the other aspects of
this of having your family involved with this is they said,
it takes the pressure off of one of those key
dating milestones, which is meeting the parents, because if they
know enough about you right away, that first meeting might
not be as a pressure packed Catherine Sturgel's mom helped
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her curate her hinge profile, pushing for photos that showed
that she was family oriented, encouraged the twenty nine year
old to get back on the app, she went on
a date with a golf pro. Catherine actually confessed that
it was her mom who suggested that they go out
on this date. And Ellen thought that he dressed well
and that's mom and his profession would be a hit
with her golf loving husband and son. And the date
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took it as a compliment and said, well, at least
someone's in my in my court, someone's you know, fighting
for me.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
If even if it is his date's mom.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It sounds like a complicated it's the wrong reason, I
think for mom to suggest that that you need to
get your husband and son a friend by having him
date your daughter, and then that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Seems like a little bit mixed priorities there.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Perhaps a little bit of mom meddling is good and helpful,
but too it's a delicate dance, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I mean, mom's I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't know how it works because my I can
just speak for what I've witnessed with my brother.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And my mom my.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
By the time I met my my husband's mom, and
she loved everybody. I don't think that she ever had
a album with me, But I can speak to my
mom and my brother. My brother has brought home a
series of girls over the years.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We were just talking off the air about how like my.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Mom's got these these little porcelain nameplates for like the
Christmas table, and you know, everyone's pretty much sharp eat
in there, you know, the family, aunt and uncle, you know,
since deceased grandparents, and Andy my brother. And then there's
one that's been like, you know, it's been take white out.
We've had to take white out to it. We've had to,
you know, because we had his wife, and then there's
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been there's been a handful of other ladies in his life.
But my mom has never been anything but so welcoming
and so wonderful to every woman my brother has dated
in his adult life or his whole life. You know,
she may have reservations or whatever she may some things
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may pop up in her head, but you would never
know it. I mean, it was always just open arms,
welcoming into the family for whoever my brother was dating.
And I know that's probably not always the case. Moms
have opinions, you know, and they're.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Usually strong opinions many they're usually.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But I don't think my mom ever said to my brother,
you know this one's a problem or this one's going
to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I think she was always very supportive to him.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I did have one girlfriend that my brother, one of
my brothers in law, was not happy with. He didn't
tell me until after we broke up. So this is
your sister's husband. Yes, one of your sister's husbands did
not like a girl you were dating. And he didn't
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never say, never said anything until we broke up, and
then he was like, yeah, she was not the one.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Really what what did he say? What could he point
to or what?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Just different personalities, different personality types that we had interesting
and I thought at the time, I was like, what,
thanks for telling me. Now I would have I would
have at least listen to him. I probably would have
ignored it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, that's always a question too. You know who do
you listen to when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And the idea that's the weird part about this article
is that so few people would listen to their parents
if you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Brought their friends or anyone.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But usually it's because they they bring around the boyfriend,
girlfriend or whatever after making their own decision. If mom
was involved in the original decision, you avoid that problem.
I suppose yeah, at some.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Point there, shababe, let me cool you in on the
real truth of dating sites. I'm forty six, been doing
it about eight years. They're all fake nowadays. They pay
women to lure men in to buy the premium. They
have no intention in dating. They're not even in this country.
(23:50):
The ones that are here are most likely trans oh
or no ghosts. Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And get this, think about the addition of the addition
of AI generated dating profiles. If I mean he's talking
about the fake one fake profiles to lure people in,
that's going to be an issue that dating sites have
to deal with as well.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I think that's been going on since the dawn of
dating sites, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (24:22):
Forty Military released some more videos this morning, saying it
struck three more alleged drug boats, this time in the
Eastern Pacific. In a post on X the Southern Commands
that the strikes were made at the direction of Secretary
of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Joint Task for Southern Spear.
Hegseth and Marco Ruby were actually on Capitol Hill today
(24:46):
for a couple of separate briefings about deadly strikes off
the coast of Venezuela. Hegseth also told reporters that the
unedited September second double tap strike video would be shown
to congressional leadership tomorrow, but likely will not be released
(25:06):
to the public.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Your kids are of dating or ages. They're out there
living their lives. If they came to you and said,
can you run my dating apps?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What would you say and what would you look for?
I wouldn't run it. You would just give input. I
would give input, but I would There's no way I
would run it. What kind of input do you think
you would? You mean you would give input on bulls?
Don't lie? Oh you swear? When you're a dad, you
have to. Oh, just don't lie? What do you mean
(25:47):
like lie? Like lie about what whatever?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Don't use fake pictures, don't lie about what your interests are.
Don't don't try to make yourself look more interesting. You're
just gonna disappoint people, and then you have to try
to live up to this fake profile that you made.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Are you talking about our pictures when Richie retouches them?
And sometimes it doesn't make you feel good when you
see what's in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You know what, it's all light. It's not all lighting, Richie,
it's lies. It's lighting. The word of lighting is.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You see enough Richie pictures. And then you look in
the mirror and you're like, I am a piece of crap?
Is that what you're that's what you're referring to.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Wasn't thinking about myself?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Sure, okay, okay, So don't look at you for four hours.
That's so true. Oh my god, you have to look
at me more than you have to look at yourself.
Think about that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm sorry, I am sorry, especially after.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You Richie's pictures.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
No, but like, would you be worried that that would
be you know, crossing a lot, like too much input?
If you or you would just do.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
They asked me.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
No, I don't think it would, but I but I would.
I would never assume that they would want my input.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, and then what would you tell that Let's talk
about just say your daughter, what would you want her
to run away from on those app What would you
see on those apps that would make you say, nah,
not him?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I think that she would probably have a pretty good
BS meter right away. Yeah, and that if there's a
whiff of inauthenticity, that that's what you would stay away from,
right because I mean, I don't know. Here's what I
don't quite get. I mean when you do that, when
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you do online dating like that, it seems like you're
taking away some of what is a natural progression of
a relationship.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, that's why I was talking about earlier, all the
wasted time, because when you meet face to face, you
know if you're gonna have chemistry with someone within ten
fifteen forty seconds. And that if you see someone that
looks good on an app, they could look great in
their pictures and you like what they're saying, but when
you see them, there's nothing there there.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, if and if you it gives you too many
opportunities to say no right away.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think, oh okay, because if you.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
If if somebody gives all for example, if somebody gives
too much information. Let me say this early early two
thousand's Shannon Farren out in the world and you see
somebody wearing, for example, RAMS gear.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Now I just got into a fight in the newsroom
with a RAMS fan.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But I mean, this is no, it's not that you
can't I would.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Never I would never. In fact, I dated someone in Seattle.
I was twenty three, twenty four. He was a Seahawks fan,
and I said this, just so you know, this is
never going to be long term, This is never going
to work out because you're a Seahawks fan. And he
thought that was ridiculous. He thought that, well, that's rue.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well it is a little ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But I would say this that that's the way I
thought back right. But I'm and I'm saying that if
if that was, uh, you know, one of the criteria
you immediately said no to, or one of the reasons
why you immediately said Notice, anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Missing out on what you're missing out eating a Seahawks
fan out here.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You're missing out on the opportunity to to find something.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know, maybe maybe he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I like closing the door too early. I think that's
good for some people. Sometimes you got to close the
door because you know what that is as your gut instinct,
your gut is telling you that there's no way in
hell you're going to make a life with the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
My wife, my wife, had she seen my dating profile
pick of me standing in overalls, move on, that's what
she would have said, even as good as I made
those overalls.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Long, you don't know that, has she told me. I
don't think she would. I don't think she would say that.
I think her gut feeling would say those overalls are trash.
But that looks like a nic human, that looks like
a good guy. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna meet him,
and I'm gonna get rid of those overalls, which is
what she did.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And I still feel the same she did.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I still feel like, I still feel like, if you're
my sister is married to a rams fan, and I
don't know how she lives in that house, their their spawn,
their child also a rams fan, I don't know how
she lives in that house.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Two rams fans. One you gave birth to You give
birth to the child, and what does he do?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He becomes a rams fan, walks away from I don't
know how you do it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Sometimes, just to be clear, she didn't. She didn't get
rid of my overalls.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I did.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
She just was very carefully not reinforced.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's clever of she got rid of those overalls. She
just got you to do it.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
That is expert Jedi mind trick, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
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A bunch of stories that are going on today.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The economy lost one hundred five thousand jobs in October,
but added sixty four thousand jobs in November.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bureau of Labor Statistics catch.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It up on the information they're supposed to come out
during the government shutdown, So as of right now, the
unemployment rate is at four point six percent. That would
be a five sorry, four year high. Lizzo is celebrating
a legal victory. A judge dismissed allegations of fat shaming.
Do you remember three of her dancers sued her for
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fat shaming and sexual harassment.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's awful, Lizzo.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
The fat shaming portions have been dropped, but the case
against her will continue over claims that three of the
dancers were subjected to sexual harassment.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh come on, you're not friends, You're not girlfriends unless
you've sexually harassed each other. I mean the technical term
like what girlfriends have not like commented. I mean, come on,
you know, like if I said to you, you know,
be you look hot? You'd be let and you and
(01:20):
you were creeped out by me. That's an actionable thing.
I would say that to Brigitta at work and it
would be fine. Like it could be considered sexual harassment.
But if I'm saying it to Brigitta, it's a compliment.
If I'm saying it to you, it's harassment. So it's
when you have girl on girl section, it's could come on.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Also depends on the power dynamic you're reporting me. I'll
die on the be you look.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hot, Hill, How did you get suspended for doing well
to a compliment? Go on Instagram, Gary and Shannon. You'll
find Phonsie and Sprinkles before we do. Trying to figure
out exactly where they are.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh boy, today today today.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Sprinkles and Phonsie are definitely getting some action.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Guys. Oh my god, you better go find those elves
or they really cause trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The monkey in the I don't know about the monkey,
but getting some action could mean anything.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
They could be on prize picks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They could be getting into some picks. They could the
action is a very vague term, right, Yeah, they could
be at the race track.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know. I don't know what those two are
up to.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's time for Luckily they've been separate in their activities.
Once they find each other and then and then they're
gonna pour gasoline on each other's fire and it's going
to be a mess.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician, which means
I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not
kissing babies, I'm still in that lollipop here we.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Got The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So what I'm not going anywhere?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
So how you train the squaw?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone
a scupid.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Why have the people voted for you? With not swap watch?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So I started reading this article today from Vanity Fair,
and it's all about White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.
It was written by Chris Whipple, who wrote a book
called The Gatekeepers. It's considered sort of the best look
at White House chiefs of staff that have existed. President
(03:47):
Trump has called Susie Wiles the most powerful woman in
the world, arguably correct, considering she could influence global affairs
in a single phone call. Now, this article, it's a
two part article in Vanity Fair, describes Susie Wiles, what
her day is like, what her thoughts are, and her opinions.
(04:09):
The thing that's generating the most headlines is the opinions
that she apparently holds of some of the members of
the administration as of right now. I'll say first out
of the gate, she says, these words are taken out
of context and that this is a giant hit piece.
She's known inside the White House as a very careful operator.
(04:32):
Very few people say no to her because they don't
want to. They trust her. She has retained President Trump's
confidence for many reasons, but obviously part of it was
that she helped run his successful second campaign. Among other things,
she said about President Trump that he governs with a
(04:57):
view that there's nothing he cannot do, nothing, zero, nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We've seen that we know that part of it. But
she says, quote.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
High functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general, their personalities are
exaggerated when they drink, and so I'm a little bit
of an expert in big personalities.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
She apparently grew up with Pat Summer.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, I didn't realize that that was her father. Yeah,
but said that there may be also So basically she's
she's saying that his personality, Donald Trump's personality is like
that of an alcoholic. Although famously he's a teetotaler. He
has I don't know if he's ever had an alcoholic drink,
(05:38):
but I know he does not drink.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think the only.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I think the only well, I don't know about the only.
I think the major comparison there is narcissism, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Which is fine.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, in the greater context of what we've been
talking about, when issues of addiction come up, narcissism can
be one of those common traits.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
She said there may be an element of retribution in
some of those prosecutions that we've seen against the president's
political opponents.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Duh.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But she says people could think it does look vindictive,
speaking specifically about going after former FBI director James Tolmachus.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Also, like you'll see with alcoholics, he holds on to everything,
every slight, and he uses that even if this slight
happened thirty years ago, he's still thinking about it in
present time.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And maybe that's what she means as well.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
She says, I don't think he wakes up thinking about retribution,
but when there's an opportunity, he will go for it. Yeah.
Now again, because everything's about him, she says comments and
that's just about the president. She also talks about Jade
Vance being a conspiracy theorist, among others. She wrote on
(06:51):
X Today, which is the first time she's used that
platform in well over a year. She said the article
published is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and
the finest president, white House staff, and cabinet in history.
Significant context was disregarded, and much of what I and
others said about the team and the president was left
out of the story. What I understand is that these
(07:14):
interviews that were done again with Chris Whipple from Vanity Fair,
the majority of them were done on Sunday afternoons after
the two of them went to church.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I'm surprised that she sat for Vanity Fair. Well, I
don't know what the expectation is when people.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
The Humanity Fair does great work, but just like every
other publication has been wildly politicized in recent years, they
do do great work, and they really do get to
the bottom and they used to do.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And you haven't read Vanity Fair in years. There's something
I want to know.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I like to know that somebody who is that close
to President Trump is somebody who doesn't pull punches, and
that he allows her and acknowledges it and lets her
in there. She goes on to say of Vice President Vance,
she said he had quote been a conspiracy theorist for
a decade and suggested that his evolution from being very
(08:08):
critical of Donald Trump to being at least I mean
in position his closest ally was a political move for him.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The news this morning was that Marco Rubio said he
was not going to run for president if JD vances
in twenty twenty eight. A lot of people thought it
would be a real ding dong between the two of them.
As you can see in this administration, they're kind of
played off of each other.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Who's going to make my day today?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Kind of a thing with a healthy competition among sons.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But you know, you think about sons, then you think
about is Donald Trump Junior thinking about twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But Marco Rubio says if JD.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Vance runs, he will not now does Marco Rubio end
up on that ticket as a VP?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh, that would be an easy It would be easy.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It would be an easy choice for jd Vance trying
to see who's older between the two of them.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Marco Rubio is older.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Marco Rubio born in seventy one. Oh, yeah, by thirteen years.
I didn't realize that. Yeah, Jade Vancy's a child born
in the eighties, younger than you are.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, easy, easy, everyone's younger than me. I'm sorry, Grandma,
are you having a rough for sixty seven? Six seven?
What does that mean? Are you trying to make yourself
younger when you say things like that? Remember when Heather
Broker thought I was sixty seven? Oh that six seven? Oh,
that we never forget.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So. Nick Reiner, who was arrested on suspicion of killing
his parents, Rob Reiner Michelle Reiner taken to Twin Towers,
will not appear in court today for the first time,
does not have medical clearance for whatever reason, did not
get on the bus for some of medical reason to
take him to the courthouse. Prosecutors will be filing their case.
(10:07):
This afternoon, DA Nathan Hoffman will be holding a press conference.
We'll take it live here on KFI. We'll have all
of the very latest. He does have an attorney, Nick
Reiner does Alan Jackson, marguably the most high profile defense
attorney operating right now.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We heard him outside the courthouse. Have cleaned it up
a little bit this comment. Reporters, We're asking, what is
this lack of medical clearance?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Why is he here?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Cheverry inmate has to be medically cleared before they can
be transported to court.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
He has not been medically cleared.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's it. That's all he really said. He's not been
medically cleared. So we don't know what the details are
specifically about that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
There was an article in the Wall Street Journal, the
headline being this when mom takes over your dating profile. Now,
most people try to keep their families out of their
relationship business.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But some say goals.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They do things differently the kids these days, and they
are handing control of their dating profiles to mom. I
took control of one of my girlfriend's bumble I think
it was at the time, because she was just kind
of over it and she was like, I've had it
and I was like, oh, can I talk to these
people on behalf of you? Pretend that I'm you? And
(11:22):
She's like, have at it. It was a fun evening,
you know, a couple of pops. I'm engaging in dialogue.
It's all a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't hate the idea. She ended up meeting her
husband on there, but well, in this case, members of
the Allen family.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Danielle Allen's family gather in front of the TV on
Sunday nights, booing, shouting. A bunch of people cheer every
once in a while, but they're not watching football. They're
swiping through her bumble account. And Danielle's mom prefers, for example,
career driven driven men who don't make spelling or grammar errors.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Let me pull Let me pull over the car right there?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Go on, guys, young people in the other room, Yes,
spelling and grammar area errors. Are you doing that? Like
you know the rule but you're breaking it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm so old right now. I don't care what you're saying.
I don't I don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Are you doing it because you don't know, or you
doing it because I'm not talking about you specifically, But
you know like young people they text and all of this,
and they make spelling errors and grammar errors. And my
nephews do this, and I feel like they know better,
but they just don't care or it's not cool, Like
what's the deal with the spelling and the grammar mistakes?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I know what you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Mean, And it can be very annoying when you're reading
it and you don't understand, like it's like where's wheares?
Are like going to where?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like that's no punctuation?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's just.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I find myself doing it back to my nephews to
try to speak their language.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yes, that's what you gotta do, But then I don't
know if I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So then I feel like I should be teaching them,
but this is the way to do it, And then
I sound like my you know, not just my aunt,
but my great aunt.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
We live in a world with like spell check, so
they have the power to like have the words be correct,
So they do it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
They do for why because it's it's just like I
don't care that much, So I'm so cool. I don't
care that much, all right, So I should just remove
all everything I've learned and just make mistakes on purpose.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, No, you should, like hold.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I think on a dating app too. You should be
able to You should be spelling everything proper. You should
be able to sell yourself.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, there's no way I'm dating somebody who can't get
it together with punctuation or spelling or grammar.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I agreed. I mean, that's just I've.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Had dates like go like, oh yeah, I almost like
did a match with you because like you spelled something
wrong and I was just like, what that's happened multiple times?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, Okay, it's a thing. Well, that's good to know.
There is more to this.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean this idea that moms would take over your
dating profile. And again I'm not entirely opposed to this,
because if you look at the filters that your family
might have for you that you wouldn't have yourself, they
it might.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
End up being beneficial. I'll explain.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Okay, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Nick Reiner was scheduled to make his initial appearance at
La Municipal Court this morning. Prosecutors have not formally filed
charges against him. As of yet, we do know that
La County DA Nathan Hockman is expected to give us
an update on the case coming up at one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Our time will carry it live.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Reiner was apparently is still in Men's Central Men's Central
Jail because he didn't get medical clear. It's to appear
in court today, according to his attorney.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Would you like your jeopardy question?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Before we dive back into mom taking over dating profiles?
The category is places to see C is in quotations
for six hundred dollars the letter C.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yes, okay, the letter C travelers can find the fun
in fungus at.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The annual Truffle Festival in this Australian capital.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Then Barra, Yes, what was that accent?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I'm sounds like an old Australian person, like very old,
like maybe near death.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Probably That's what I was going for. Old Australian yep.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Varra like Canterbury tells old English wand the sust shoota
the droops of March of sense.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
When Mom takes over your dating profile, Danielle, we mentioned
Danielle's thirty one years old and has her family help
her out and on Sundays after dinner they get together
throw the old profile up on the big screen and
get to it now. Danielle's mom, like we said Suzanne
or Susan, She prefers career driven men. She does not
(16:15):
like spelling or grammatical errors. Danielle's sister is focus on
trying to find somebody for Danielle that could keep up
with her adrenaline junkie hobbies. Like one of her profile
picks is apparently her looks like repelling down a building
of some kind. Dad Dad gets in on this. Dad
(16:35):
looks for signs that the match may butt heads with
her headstrong personality. Her brother tries to steer her away
from older men. Everyone from top to bottom in the
family says anybody who wants a non monogamous relationship is
off limits. She said very few people actually pass all
of those tests, But Danielle has then had the opportunity
(16:58):
for the final veto on some of the choices. One
match an entomologist, she said, seemed especially promising, but when
Mom went on to check into bumble to check what
logged into bumble to check in, he was gone, and
Mom said her heart was broken.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, you can't get attached, mom.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Some parents when you show them, and again I think
we would react the same way. When you show them
what is on these dating profiles, parents are like, that's
a lot of drinking, or that's a lot of hunting,
or that's a lot of I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Whatever they're leading whatever they're leading in. Yeah, it can
be too much. For example, Lila Vankey's mom offered to
pay for a premium tier of the Hinge Dating?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Is that a guys dating people? Is that a racket
to get the.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Premium whatever it is? Yeah, but I don't I mean,
is it a racket? Like it's it's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They get money, more money out of you for no
reason at all.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
You just think you're getting a premium experience.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
It just provides you, I guess with Like, it's it's
less limited, you know, like you would be able to
swipe through different profiles more as opposed to being limited
to like a few in a day or the twenty
four hour period.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh you're limited yeah, yeah to how many?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's let's just say you have like thirty or forty
likes so you can go through You're going through them
super quickly. Some people just like race through them if
you're really desperate. It's just I guess, yes, yes, but.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
You know what, also a few I want to say,
about a year or two back, you would be able
to swipe more frequent And then I want to say,
in the last few year or so, now it's to
the point where, like, let's say I'm having a conversation
with five people, and I don't respond back to those five,
it won't allow me to respond to new people until
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I respond back to that person.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
What.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yes, So they kind of want to make sure that
you're not just leaving people on red or you know,
ignoring that's really stupid.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, because you got.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
To fill a whole bench, like you know, you know,
you're not looking for one substitute. You gotta have a bench, does.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It They know that? Come on, man.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
One of the other one of the other aspects of
this of having your family involved with this is they said,
it takes the pressure off of one of those key
dating milestones, which is meeting the parents, because if they
know enough about you right away, that first meeting might
not be as a pressure packed Catherine Sturgel's mom helped
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her curate her hinge profile, pushing for photos that showed
that she was family oriented, encouraged the twenty nine year
old to get back on the app, she went on
a date with a golf pro. Catherine actually confessed that
it was her mom who suggested that they go out
on this date. And Ellen thought that he dressed well
and that's mom and his profession would be a hit
with her golf loving husband and son. And the date
(20:05):
took it as a compliment and said, well, at least
someone's in my in my court, someone's you know, fighting
for me.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
If even if it is his date's mom.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It sounds like a complicated it's the wrong reason, I
think for mom to suggest that that you need to
get your husband and son a friend by having him
date your daughter, and then that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Seems like a little bit mixed priorities there.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Perhaps a little bit of mom meddling is good and helpful,
but too it's a delicate dance, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I mean, mom's I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't know how it works because my I can
just speak for what I've witnessed with my brother.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And my mom my.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
By the time I met my my husband's mom, and
she loved everybody. I don't think that she ever had
a album with me, But I can speak to my
mom and my brother. My brother has brought home a
series of girls over the years.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We were just talking off the air about how like my.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Mom's got these these little porcelain nameplates for like the
Christmas table, and you know, everyone's pretty much sharp eat
in there, you know, the family, aunt and uncle, you know,
since deceased grandparents, and Andy my brother. And then there's
one that's been like, you know, it's been take white out.
We've had to take white out to it. We've had to,
you know, because we had his wife, and then there's
(21:31):
been there's been a handful of other ladies in his life.
But my mom has never been anything but so welcoming
and so wonderful to every woman my brother has dated
in his adult life or his whole life. You know,
she may have reservations or whatever she may some things
(21:52):
may pop up in her head, but you would never
know it. I mean, it was always just open arms,
welcoming into the family for whoever my brother was dating.
And I know that's probably not always the case. Moms
have opinions, you know, and they're.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Usually strong opinions many they're usually.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But I don't think my mom ever said to my brother,
you know this one's a problem or this one's going
to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I think she was always very supportive to him.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I did have one girlfriend that my brother, one of
my brothers in law, was not happy with. He didn't
tell me until after we broke up. So this is
your sister's husband. Yes, one of your sister's husbands did
not like a girl you were dating. And he didn't
(22:40):
never say, never said anything until we broke up, and
then he was like, yeah, she was not the one.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Really what what did he say? What could he point
to or what?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Just different personalities, different personality types that we had interesting
and I thought at the time, I was like, what,
thanks for telling me. Now I would have I would
have at least listen to him. I probably would have
ignored it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, that's always a question too. You know who do
you listen to when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
And the idea that's the weird part about this article
is that so few people would listen to their parents
if you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Brought their friends or anyone.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But usually it's because they they bring around the boyfriend,
girlfriend or whatever after making their own decision. If mom
was involved in the original decision, you avoid that problem.
I suppose yeah, at some.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Point there, shababe, let me cool you in on the
real truth of dating sites. I'm forty six, been doing
it about eight years. They're all fake nowadays. They pay
women to lure men in to buy the premium. They
have no intention in dating. They're not even in this country.
(23:50):
The ones that are here are most likely trans oh
or no ghosts. Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And get this, think about the addition of the addition
of AI generated dating profiles. If I mean he's talking
about the fake one fake profiles to lure people in,
that's going to be an issue that dating sites have
to deal with as well.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I think that's been going on since the dawn of
dating sites, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (24:22):
Forty Military released some more videos this morning, saying it
struck three more alleged drug boats, this time in the
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that the strikes were made at the direction of Secretary
of Defense Pete Hegseth and the Joint Task for Southern Spear.
Hegseth and Marco Ruby were actually on Capitol Hill today
(24:46):
for a couple of separate briefings about deadly strikes off
the coast of Venezuela. Hegseth also told reporters that the
unedited September second double tap strike video would be shown
to congressional leadership tomorrow, but likely will not be released
(25:06):
to the public.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Your kids are of dating or ages. They're out there
living their lives. If they came to you and said,
can you run my dating apps?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What would you say and what would you look for?
I wouldn't run it. You would just give input. I
would give input, but I would There's no way I
would run it. What kind of input do you think
you would? You mean you would give input on bulls?
Don't lie? Oh you swear? When you're a dad, you
have to. Oh, just don't lie? What do you mean
(25:47):
like lie? Like lie about what whatever?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Don't use fake pictures, don't lie about what your interests are.
Don't don't try to make yourself look more interesting. You're
just gonna disappoint people, and then you have to try
to live up to this fake profile that you made.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Are you talking about our pictures when Richie retouches them?
And sometimes it doesn't make you feel good when you
see what's in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You know what, it's all light. It's not all lighting, Richie,
it's lies. It's lighting. The word of lighting is.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You see enough Richie pictures. And then you look in
the mirror and you're like, I am a piece of crap?
Is that what you're that's what you're referring to.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Wasn't thinking about myself?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Sure, okay, okay, So don't look at you for four hours.
That's so true. Oh my god, you have to look
at me more than you have to look at yourself.
Think about that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm sorry, I am sorry, especially after.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You Richie's pictures.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
No, but like, would you be worried that that would
be you know, crossing a lot, like too much input?
If you or you would just do.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
They asked me.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
No, I don't think it would, but I but I would.
I would never assume that they would want my input.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, and then what would you tell that Let's talk
about just say your daughter, what would you want her
to run away from on those app What would you
see on those apps that would make you say, nah,
not him?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I think that she would probably have a pretty good
BS meter right away. Yeah, and that if there's a
whiff of inauthenticity, that that's what you would stay away from,
right because I mean, I don't know. Here's what I
don't quite get. I mean when you do that, when
(27:40):
you do online dating like that, it seems like you're
taking away some of what is a natural progression of
a relationship.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, that's why I was talking about earlier, all the
wasted time, because when you meet face to face, you
know if you're gonna have chemistry with someone within ten
fifteen forty seconds. And that if you see someone that
looks good on an app, they could look great in
their pictures and you like what they're saying, but when
you see them, there's nothing there there.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, if and if you it gives you too many
opportunities to say no right away.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think, oh okay, because if you.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
If if somebody gives all for example, if somebody gives
too much information. Let me say this early early two
thousand's Shannon Farren out in the world and you see
somebody wearing, for example, RAMS gear.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Now I just got into a fight in the newsroom
with a RAMS fan.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But I mean, this is no, it's not that you
can't I would.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Never I would never. In fact, I dated someone in Seattle.
I was twenty three, twenty four. He was a Seahawks fan,
and I said this, just so you know, this is
never going to be long term, This is never going
to work out because you're a Seahawks fan. And he
thought that was ridiculous. He thought that, well, that's rue.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well it is a little ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But I would say this that that's the way I
thought back right. But I'm and I'm saying that if
if that was, uh, you know, one of the criteria
you immediately said no to, or one of the reasons
why you immediately said Notice, anybody.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Missing out on what you're missing out eating a Seahawks
fan out here.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You're missing out on the opportunity to to find something.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know, maybe maybe he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I like closing the door too early. I think that's
good for some people. Sometimes you got to close the
door because you know what that is as your gut instinct,
your gut is telling you that there's no way in
hell you're going to make a life with the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
My wife, my wife, had she seen my dating profile
pick of me standing in overalls, move on, that's what
she would have said, even as good as I made
those overalls.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Long, you don't know that, has she told me. I
don't think she would. I don't think she would say that.
I think her gut feeling would say those overalls are trash.
But that looks like a nic human, that looks like
a good guy. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna meet him,
and I'm gonna get rid of those overalls, which is
what she did.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And I still feel the same she did.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I still feel like, I still feel like, if you're
my sister is married to a rams fan, and I
don't know how she lives in that house, their their spawn,
their child also a rams fan, I don't know how
she lives in that house.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Two rams fans. One you gave birth to You give
birth to the child, and what does he do?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He becomes a rams fan, walks away from I don't
know how you do it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Sometimes, just to be clear, she didn't. She didn't get
rid of my overalls.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I did.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
She just was very carefully not reinforced.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's clever of she got rid of those overalls. She
just got you to do it.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
That is expert Jedi mind trick, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
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