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March 21, 2025 28 mins
Gary and Shannon dive into the chaos at Heathrow Airport after a fire forces massive flight delays worldwide. Then, we break down Elon Musk’s closed-door briefing on China—what was said and why it matters. Also, we uncover the wild story behind "Careless People", a Facebook memoir that had Mark Zuckerberg is scrambling to keep it under wraps. And finally, a bizarre workplace health scare—could someone be peeing in your water bottle?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. About two miles away from Heathrow.
It was a large explosion that was heard, followed followed
by a fireball and clouds of smoke when the fire
ripped through that electrical substation. Like I said, about two

(00:20):
miles from the airport. No reason to believe it was suspicious.
No foul play is expected at this point.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
But anti terrorism forces are helping investigate whatever it was
that went on. You would imagine that in one of
the world's largest airports being shut down for an entire
day and maybe longer, that people would be absolutely losing
their minds when reporting on this story. That is not
the British way. This is the British way.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
That can assist in progressing at this investigation at pace
to minimize disruption and identify the cause. Well, it's hi
earlier of Fibrigade gave a news conference at the.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Scene twenty three. No one's freaking out.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
One, No, it's it's very different. But they do have
broadcasting rules over there where they cannot lose their minds.
The way we can. But similarly, there was a passenger
by the name of Lawrence Hayes.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
He was three quarters of.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
The way to London from New York when the Virgin
Atlantic flight announced they were being diverted to Scotland. He says, Lawrence,
it was a redee flight, and I'd already had a
full day, so I don't even know how long I've
been up for. Luckily, I managed to get hold of
my wife. She's kindly booked me a train ticket to
get back to Houston. But it's going to be an
incredibly long day. We would be absolute animals if this happened.

(01:45):
Heathrow is the biggest hub. I mean, they had the
biggest January on record, by the way, so it is
busier than busier Heathrow right now. And they say that
these flight delays, cancelations, reverberations are going to last day,
maybe weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, even if they do reopen, the plan as of
right now is that Heathrow reopens at midnight their time,
which would be later in the afternoon for us, later
this afternoon for us. That still means thousands of past
tens of thousands of passengers and hundreds and hundreds of
flights are going to be delayed, canceled, moved, and then

(02:23):
you've got the flight crews that were supposed to be
at Heathrow that have to be moved around, the airplanes
that have to be moved around.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Heathrow is a hub for the globe, so you're seeing
things like a flight from Tokyo being sent to Helsinki, right,
you know, a departure from Hong Kong going to Amsterdam.
One from Dubai routed to Munich. I mean, you're turning
up in a place is very foreign from where you

(02:52):
expected to go because you were going to connect through Heathrow.
As Hugh Grant says in the major motion picture Love, Actually.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
You remember this part, right, J Blake, I remember what
I had for breakfast today?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, it's at the beginning of the movie, and Hugh
Grant says, whenever I get gloomy with the state of
the world, I think about the arrivals gated Heathrow Airport.
It seems to me that love is actually everywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Here is the Fire Brigade captain talking this morning from Ethra.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
At twenty twenty three on the evening of the twentieth
of March, London Fire Brigade received two hundred and twelve
calls to a fire and a high vaultage substation near
Heathrow Airport. The fire involved a transformer comprising of twenty
five thousand liters of cooling oil fully of light. This
created a major hazard due to the still live high

(03:49):
voltage equipment and the nature of the oil fueled fire.
LFB was in close contact with Blue Light partners overnight
and at zero zero forty two the Metropolitan Police declared
a minor incident.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Again you mentioned this before.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
At this point they're saying there's no evidence of there's
no evidence of foul play, but that counter terrorism officers
are going to be leading this investigation because of the
impact that it has on what they consider critical well
what we all would consider critical infrastructure in the form
of that massive, massive airport. Now again, thousands of people

(04:24):
literally stuck at Heathrow because they can't get out and
they have no idea when their planes are going to
be getting.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Out, and they said there's no flight and we have.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yet to hear anything.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
We've been here for how long three hours, three and
a half hours, four hours with no information. We're waiting.
We don't know one of our party was said that
we wouldn't get out till the twenty fourth, which is
a long time.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, it is now. If you're a Heathrow the good
news is there's a million things to do. I mean
it's basically an amusement park with airports. I mean you
can a spa day at Heathrow. You can do anything there,
get your nails done, what have you. If you're diverted
to Gatwick, you're screwed. There's nothing to do at Gatwick.

(05:10):
There might be like a fish and chips place that's subpar,
but you're screwed. There's nothing to do there. You're diverted
to Shannon and Ireland, nothing to do there. The good
news is if you're a layover, is it Heathrow, it's
at Heathrow.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Again.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
They have said that they have not had any evidence
found any evidence that this was foul play. But European
leaders have been very on edge lately, specifically because of
what's been going on with Russia and Ukraine, and they
have been concerned that there would be some serious acts
of sabotagem I five, which is the domestic spy agency.

(05:47):
I guess you could say the FBI for the uk
I five had come out and been warning not just
British government officials but others in Europe that Kremlin spy
agencies are on a sustained to generate mayhem across Europe,
including encouraging arson, encouraging sabotage. This would fit that, this

(06:09):
would fit that MO if in fact they do find
some evidence of foul play.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I was surprised they came out right away and said
there was no evidence of foul play, and if that
was a play on investigating foul play, we'll find out,
all right. Everyone lost their minds this morning because they
said Elon Musk was going to get briefed on China.
But he's not elected. Why is he getting all this information?
Trump now is taking office at the Oval Office, He says,
Elon Musk was there for Doze, not for China. PS.

(06:37):
Boeing just got a massive contract, massive to serve as
basically the quarterback of the Air Force's future fleet to
take on China. We'll tell you about that development when
we come back.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
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Speaker 1 (06:54):
I was wondering, I wonder what happened in Gary shower
this morning.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
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Speaker 4 (07:04):
I kept it, I kept it above the desk.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
But you did show me the pit.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I did the pit thing that's.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Usually number one, that's usually number one hot spot. But
I didn't get into the number two hot spots. I
just said, I just it was a different soap.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
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Speaker 1 (09:00):
Speaking of new, can I get some excitement music?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, let me see if I can Tony give me
the there is that's so that's not exciting.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, that'll work all right, My fellow Americans, I would
like to introduce you to what's being called next Generation
air Dominance.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is air Force's future fighter jet. It will have
stealth and penetration capabilities that far exceed those of the
current fleet by your US Air Force. This, they say,
this next generation air dominance is essential in our potential
conflict with China. Stealth and penetration capabilities America, yep, the

(09:52):
ability to be secret and penetrative okay, at the same
time against China into China.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Okay, I'm done. It's called an F forty seven.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So is it interesting to you that Boeing gets this contract?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
It Listen the ride ups that I saw last night.
I didn't know this announcement was coming down today, but
the ride ups that I saw last night had suggested
that Boeing was kind of on the ropes. Boeing hasn't
been doing well in terms of the building of Air
Force one, the new fleet of Air Force one planes,
and the Boeing Starliner feis Ago that left those astronauts

(10:33):
stranded in June.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And the President's kind of made this big showing that
Elon Musk and SpaceX was the rescuer in all of this,
the hero. So for him to come out and announce
that Boeing is going to build our next generation fighter
jet is a pretty big deal.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
It's significant, very significant. Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So the other story that was happening regarding military stuff
today is that Elon Musk was due at the Pentagon.
He's already been there and had this briefing that was
taking place. But The New York Times wrote it up
by saying that that Elon Musk was going to the
Pentagon to be briefed on the US military's plan for

(11:15):
any war that might break out with China. The Washington
Post said it was focused on the threat posed by China.
The Wall Street Journal said the top secret briefing was
plans for a potential war with China. When those stories
came out, sourced by different people over the course from
each of those three different news agencies, the Pentagon immediately

(11:37):
came out and said none of that is true at all.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Sean Parnell is a spokesman for the Pentagon.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
This started with this New York Times headline and they
since changed it. But Musk set to get access to
top secret US plan for potential war with China. This
is egregious, This is fake. The New York Times should
retract this story. Five anonymous sources I've been On Bilat
calls with the Secretary. I see how hard he's working

(12:02):
to implement the President's agenda and pursue peace through strength.
This type of garbage from the New York Times undermines
that process and undermines our mission. It shouldn't happen at all.
Elon Musk is just coming over here for a visit again.
He's an innovator.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
This is a guy that shot a rocket.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
A thousands of miles an hour, that's thousands of pounds,
and as it landed back on the Earth, it was
grabbed out of mid air by a giant robot arm.
We want a guy like Elon Musk in the defense
departments to help us come up with creative solutions to
the problems that we face of the day.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
That last part I thought was the most brilliant defense
of Elon Musk and his value to the country outside
of doze, Outside of whatever concern you have about an
unelected guy going in and taking a look at these
different agencies and how to streamline the federal government. This

(12:59):
is a guy who thinks outside the box and has
successfully been able to do things that we thought were unimaginable.
The idea that he would have a car company that's
all electric that blew the doors off of the auto
industry and changed the priorities for the auto industry in

(13:19):
the United States, in fact the world. And then the SpaceX,
this private exploration. You can't argue this guy's innovation.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
You can argue if you think he's smart or not
based on his decision making. You cannot argue on his intelligence.
And when we got out of the business of putting
the most intelligent people in power is a very dangerous
move because if you're only going to have the Washington
establishment make the decisions in Washington, we're going to remain screwed.

(13:50):
The more people you can bring in with unique independent
thought and people who are not entrenched in politics and
have people to pay back and backs to scratch and
oils to spread the better lotions, oils and lotions, lotions
and potions. You didn't work with John and Ken for
as long as I did. They're very much into the

(14:12):
oils and the lotions.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I have never spread oils and or lotions on either
of those two. Well, you're not a politician. Those two
have been looped up numerous times. I'm yeah, I'm.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Sorry that was necessary. I was unnecessary.

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Speaker 1 (14:44):
But you know what I mean, everybody in Washington has
favors to pay back and to have somebody who doesn't
have any That's why Arnold Twarzenegger was so successful at
getting elected, you know, without the special interests. That was
the thing. He didn't owe anybody anything. He didn't want money.
He just wanted to get in and disrupt things and
change the way things were done in Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Was Arnat Schwarzenegger like an early indicator of what President
Trump was going to Yeah? Interesting, I never thought of
it that way, but that kind of makes sense, all right.
The new book that's coming out Facebook does not want
you to read it will explain why.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Oh, there's some great nuggets in here.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
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Speaker 1 (15:24):
Six forty stories we're following for you today sabotage not
suspected in that electrical fire that brought Heathrow to a standstill.
Officials have not now they say, ruled out foul play.
Of course, one of the busiest airports in the world.
There will be disruptions that last days. They have resumed
flights there, but they are they say, already thirteen hundred

(15:46):
flights around two hundred thousand passengers are affected by this.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
The British tabloid The Sun is reporting that King Charles
is going to make an offer to the United States
to become the next associate member of the British Commonwealth.
Its currently fifty six states are in the Commonwealth and
they said that they would be They would welcome the
US as a new member the US.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
If the US is in fact.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Invited to join the British Commonwealth, that's going to go
over well. It is hoped to be a step towards
bringing Canada and the United States a little closer together
shared values, to.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Be trying to make peacemaker. Here is this Canada using
Britain's schlong to exude dominance or what well, Canada being
part of the Kingdom.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
The Commonwealth, Yeah, the Commonwealth?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Is this the Kingdom, the Schlong saying that, like, we
will invite you United States to be part of our
party as opposed to the United States trying to take
over Canada? Is this Britain trying to show it? Slong
Schlog slog, you need a napkin.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You are making all kinds of spit over there for
some reason. Yes, that is exactly what it is. And
then a quick well, i'll tell you the other quick note.
A very popular person was just diagnosed with autism. Oh yeah,
I'll tell you the next segment.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think we're all a little bit autistic.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Probably, yeah, careless people. Reference to a line from The
Great Gatsby is the name of a new book. This
is a tell all memoir from Sarah Wynn Williams, who
at one time was let me find her title the
director of Global Public Policy for Meta, which of course
owns Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
She is spilling the tea, guys, she is dishing. Some
of these tidbits are revolving around Cheryl Samberg. Of course,
Cheryl Samberg was self help corporate self helps it girl
a handful of years ago when she published her book
Lean In. Facebook chief operating Officer Cheryl Samberg and one

(17:59):
of the the anecdotes that is shared in this memoir
is in the chapter called Lean In and Lie Back.
In that chapter, you've got Cheryl Samberg and a young
assistant named Sadie, whom Samberg treats as a little doll

(18:20):
or a lady in waiting, complete with hair petting and
lap sitting duties. This woman who wrote the book, Sarah
Wynn Williams and others are flying in a private jet
back from Davos, Switzerland, and Cheryl Sandberg in the book
is said to be poudy, and she repeatedly tells the

(18:41):
author Sarah Win Williams, come to bed, come to bed,
the single large bed on this aircraft for a sleepover.
Now the author, Sarah wyn Williams doesn't want to go
come to bed with Cheryl Samberg and have this girl sleepover,
this weird adult sleepover thing, so she tries to pawn
the job off on Sadie. Sadie, who's the lap dog,

(19:04):
the little dog, the lady in waiting whatever, And they
write in the chronicle. Then, in a move that combines
mean girls and a toddler having a bedtime tantrum, Cheryl
Samberg says Sadie slept over lots of times. And I'm
not asking Sadie, I'm asking you what an awful Oh

(19:27):
my god, that is so awful.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
She goes on and she talks about Mark Zuckerberg as
being super out of touch, that he and he's a
hybrid of Sam Bankman Freed, and Donald Trump. That he
prefers hoodies and casual wear at all costs, He's obsessed
with crowd sizes, he doesn't like social norms, he doesn't
like matters of etiquette, He trusts.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Impulse over plans.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
All of these, I mean, these very clear descriptions of
these people who there's something about their personalities. There was
something about Mark Zuckerberg who hit he struck gold with
the original plans for Facebook, and then he's elevated to
this position of basically president and CEO of a massive

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social media company, but doesn't have the personal characteristics that
it takes to be a good person.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
That's kind of the basics.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I mean, the careless People title is supposed to be
referencing the people from the Great Gatsby, who you know,
bad people can make good decisions and good people can
make bad decisions. But a lot of times bad people.
It's careless people that are going to make the worst
decisions about businesses and interpersonal relationships.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I like the part about the board games too. I
can see that that Zuckerberg surrounds himself with all these
yes people, and these people will he loves board games,
and they'll routinely just let him win at the board games,
so that when he met a worthy opponent that't wasn't
in on the whole let Mark Zuckerberg win, he immediately

(20:59):
thought that they were cheating because he wasn't winning.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I hate people like that.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I hate people that would do that. That would be
the guy that lets him win.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
All the time?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Hot or not, I say not.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, this has.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Been a common theme of this show in the almost
ten years that we've been doing it. Bad people spreading
bad diseases by doing bad things.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't remember us ever talking about the case of
a guy peeing in a water bottle at work and
spreading STDs. I remember Mark Burnt and his cookies. That
was the John and Ken days.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
What about the flute guy, the guy was doing it
into the flutes, I don't remember that. Yeah, where was that?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Was that? Local? Really?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
In the schools as well?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
In the recorders?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Were they recorders? I think they were recorders to me because.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't know about schools that have a plethora of flutes,
but I do know that recorders are. Is this when
we got producer Nick the recorder and he would my
heart will go on.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, where did we get that recorder from? By the Amazon? Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay, just the same way I just bought your beef
tallow that we're going to put on your face.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
If you want to know the story behind that, ye,
you'll have to listen to the special weekend podcast.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
The Gas Weekend Fix.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, you've never heard it before. It's not going to
be on the radio show.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
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Speaker 1 (22:27):
So. Then Trump says Boeing is being awarded the contract
for the next US high tech fighter jet. He says
the new F forty seven will be the best get
it forty seven?

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I did not put that together, but okay.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Forty seven will be the best fighter jet ever made.
They beat out Lockheed Martin for the contract.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
There was an old World War two P forty seven
P forty seven Thunderbolt, the penetration capability. Okay, are said
to be Hey, I didn't come.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Up with that tagline.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
A janitor in tech spread sexually transmitted diseases to more
than a dozen office workers by peeing in their water
bottles and their waters.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Me.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I don't know what kind of weird websites you get
information from, but was this was a Shannon special? What's
amazing is this guy only got six years in jail,
stayed prison there in Texas, and and it's Texas, and
he's already served a couple of years, so he's due
for or he's eligible I should say, for parole by

(23:33):
next year.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
What causes somebody?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's a good question. I asked that same question. He
said he did have malicious intent and that it is
a sickness to go along with the hepatitis A and
the herpes that he's been spreading around.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I saw his mugshot. He looks like a guy who
would do this. How does he get herpes and hepatitis?
I mean somebody had to a sexual transaction. Oh, I
see a transaction? Yeah, paid for it, a financial transaction.
I don't know any hookers with diseases though.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Oh I'm sorry, you only go to the clean one.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I don't know any hookers, so there's that.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
In this case, there was a woman who said that
that her water tasted sour, had an odd smell and
a yellowish color. So she set up a hidden camera
on her desk and caught him sticking as junk in
the water bottle after she got home for the day.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Why would you why would you leave your water bottle
at work?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I wouldn't say that would be the thing that you
would assume happen.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, let's just say I've done that a couple times,
where I've left my water bottle in our office and
I'll come in the next day and I'll see that
I left it there accidentally. I throw it away immediately.
I don't freaking know people are doing around here. That's
exactly where my mind goes right away. Either are somebody

(25:05):
spitting it or they peed in it. I don't think
that they spent the time and the effort to do
other things.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
But something.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I mean, nobody goes into the our office because they
think it's a storage closet, so I don't think anybody
would be in there.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
They don't. It's not like the.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
People walk through from our office all the time. Remember
the guy that stole the beer at seven forty five am.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
That's because the door was open and the light was on.
If we're not here, I don't think anybody looks at
that room and it's.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Like, oh, I'll bet you they got value. There's a
water bottle there. I think I'll pier stuff. Lama in
the corner. I wonder what that's doing there, Listen.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I just I don't give anybody any credit to not
do that.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I wanted to mention this because I thought it was
an interesting story. Bella Ramsey twenty one year old. Bella
Ramsey is an actress in the Last of Us Right Now,
based on the video game.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
She was also in Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
There was a crew member working on the Last of
Us who happens to have an autistic daughter and said
that she noticed Bella had some of the same characteristics
that her autistic daughter had, So she approached Bella and
asked if she had ever been diagnosed with autism, and

(26:19):
Bella said, no, I do notice a few things about myself,
Like she said, she was very hyper aware of other
people's facial what would you call it, facial cues and
body language and things like that she's.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
A non binary individual.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I believe. Oh so I should just say Bella.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I don't know Bella, then said Bella felt like a
weirdo and a loner and had always wondered if Bella
had autism, but went to a psychiatrist and actually had
an evaluation and was diagnosed with autism at the age
of twenty one.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I think it's pretty rare these days.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, we didn't used to diagnose any of this when
we were kids. There was no add there were you know,
you gave kids out or all or what have you.
But nothing was ever diagnosed or labels put on anything.
And I wonder if we're better or not better off
because of that, because of the absence of labels when
we were growing up. No matter what it was, no

(27:20):
matter what there was something in the psychology manual or
sexuality or anything.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Maybe we know too much? Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
No, I just this whole new thing of labeling everything.
I feel a certain way, label I am a certain way,
but personality a certain way.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Label It's just nothing was labeled back then.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Up next, a bunch of Democrats are trying to light
the fire under Kamala Harris for an exciting run for
governor of the great state of California.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah as or get off the pod, is what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
listening to The Hurry and Shannon Show.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
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