September 30, 2025 • 30 mins
Gary and Shannon open the show with breaking updates as the lockdown is lifted at Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey. They dive into the Pentagon meeting where Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and President Trump declared the end of the “woke era,” though their speeches drew a mixed response from the military brass in attendance. The conversation shifts to today’s MLB Wild Card Series preview and the moments President Trump went off script during the meeting. Listener feedback pours in, sparking debate on Shannon’s take, before the hosts turn to the Taliban’s move to shut off Afghanistan’s internet. The hour wraps with a look at how parents are reviving the landline and a new WiFi-enabled device called Tin Can that blends old-school vibes with modern tech.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
There was a lockdown a joint based McGuire Dix Lakehurst
in New Jersey. Apparently it has been canceled. All personnel
we're told to lockdown. All personnel outdoors should take cover.
There was discussion of some sort of an active shooter,
but at this point they say that lockdown has been lifted.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All right, guys, we are gonna look good. We're gonna
be stronger. We're gonna call you a pansy when you're
a pansy.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We're gonna call you a fat ass when you're a
fat ass.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We will not have fat asses leading us into battle.
And don't say the two N words, which were, oh
you didn't hear that part. Oh, oh well, we'll get
to it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh okay, this give me this elmer over here.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
There you go. Surprise.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
If the Secretary of War can do regular hard pt,
so can every member.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Of our joint force. Frankly, it's tiring.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
To look out at combat formations or really any formation
and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
To see fat generals.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And admirals in the halls of the Pentagon, oh and
leading commands around the country in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's a bad look. It is bad and it's not
who we are.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So whether you're an airborne ranger or a chairborne ranger,
a brand new private or a four star general, you
need to meet the height and weight standards and pass
the PT test.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And as the Chairman said, yes, there is no cont test.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But today, at my direction, every member of the Joint Force,
at every rank is required to take a PT test
twice a year.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Uh, Quanticoperadilly doesn't have a great sound system.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You disgusting fat body. You owe me for one jelly
donut If you don't get the reference, I'm disappointed.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Which would have.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Been a perfect speech for them to play. Yes, right
before Pete haig Seth took the stage.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
No more identity months offices, dudes in dresses, no more
climate change worship, no more division distraction or gender delusions,
no more debris.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
As I've said.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Before and we'll say again, we are done with that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
At my wedding, before the ceremony began, I had glasses
of champagne passed out to people as they were walking
and get into the festive mood. Pete haik Seth had
testosterone pills passed out before this one for everybody. And
you know, it's probably music to the general's ears that
were done with dei and loving and Kumbaya moments for
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the military. While culturally that may be a place to
aspire to be with the military, not a lot of a.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Place for it. So that is good.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Ten new policies, including stricter grooming standards. What does that mean?
Is this like the Yankees, Now you've got to shave
your beard? Is that the deal?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, my understanding was that for a very long time,
basically since the beginning of what was the American military
in all of its forms, beards were not allowed.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It was only.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Recently when we started going into areas where beards were
not just acceptable, but beards were required of men. I
think special operations forces on these forward operating bases in
places like Afghanistan or deep inside Pakistan or Iraq or
something like that. If they're going to fit in with
the with the locals and you know, gain the trust
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of the locals, one of the things they had to
do was grow beards. Now, I don't know if that changes.
I don't know if there are special rules that are
going to be cut out for them. But he said,
no more beardos. The era of unacceptable appearance is over.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Can I chime in on this? Yeh, Bens, can you yeah? Yeah, no,
you have a beard?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
You were in the military, yes, But this was a
huge thing because like even airmen throughout, like the beginning
of their careers, they would get shaving waivers and they'd
grow beards, and there'd be a lot of animosity between
like the people shaving their face and the people keeping
the beard.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Why would they keep their beard because they got like
little dots and stuff, you know what I mean, like
little pricks, and they'd go to medical they'd be like, oh,
we need a shaving waiver. Then they'd go like four
years without shaving because they had this piece of paper.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
They had razor burn and that was enough for the
military to allow them to grow a beard.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
My boyfriend was in the Navy, and that was an
ex boyfriend, but he had the same thing because he
got razor burns so bad he had a waiver.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Going back to Full Metal Jacket, that's the opening scene.
Guys in their hair and their facial hair. Very serious,
like it's always been a thing for men, just says
it is for women and women's hair, like it is
a big deal for you to enter the military and
get everything cut off.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
The psychological aspect, Yes, you are all equals. You're all
starting at the same position. And that was one of
the ways that they would do that. Yeah, so now
they're back to that this warrior ethos that he talked about.
Now you pointed out that they probably passed out testosterone pills.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The one thing that I noticed this morning, in the
parts of this that I saw, there was very little
reaction from the men and women in that room.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, like I told you, I understand Pete haig Seth
served in the military, but you know him as a
TV personality, Pete haig Seth calling all of the nation's
top brass. These men have lived it, they have walked it,
they have been through it. So for Pete hag Seth
to summon them alone is insane and then to sit
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down and listen to their new boss try to explain
their job to them not going to go over well,
I mean, consider what's in that room.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
When it comes to Pride, and ego and all of it,
and you're listening to your new boss.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That's a TV guy. That's a hard.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Thing to take despite even if he was in the military,
he was in the military for a moment compared to
these men.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, and women's here.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There is an aspect of it that I don't like
the idea of it because I don't I don't like
the performative nature of it, the idea that you are
calling all because you can call all your generals and
admirals back to Virginia for this meeting.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You could have done this same speech that would have been.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Watched by all of them from the pre from you know,
from the over.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
World power move look at me and make no mistake
about It's from the administration down to Pete Haig Seth.
But I'm able to bring the most powerful men in
the world into one room I called this meeting.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
It is total ego.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I do have a couple of sound bites, one from
a former Army Special operations officer, one from a former
Navy seal their reactions to what they saw today. But
also President Trump really wasted an opportunity in his hour
plus speech that he gave to that same room of
generals and admirals.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He made it nowhere to go.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
He made it about himself. He went on too long.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was kind of reminiscent of the Kirk Memorial of
making it about you, saying if he doesn't get the
Nobel Peace Prize, it's a travesty.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Oh and we'll get to the two N words as well.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Six forty wild Card series get underway tonight. The Dodgers
will take on the Reds in the final game starting
at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Walk me through the Is it best of five, best
of three?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
This is best of three? They play them all in
one stadium, one stadium. Yeah, they don't travel.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Try to keep it.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
When did they change that?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Two?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Okay, okay, three years ago? I'm I'm worried about the Reds.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Any any Dodgers fan that's like, oh, this easy series,
it's rough to talk about it, aft brain, Yeah, listen,
cheer for your team, yes, but be realistic. The Reds
are by far the hottest team in the league right now.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You know, I was reading an article this morning about
the Mets spending what three hundred and fifty million on
a team that doesn't even make the playoffs, Like it
was one of those teams that was built with money
to go the distance and just fizzled.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I mean, was there even a spark? It's been a
rough go.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There was.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
To put it in perspective, there was a weird statistic
that I saw. Everything is now measured right in baseball,
the statistics are ridiculous. Pete Alonzo hit a ball at
one hundred almost one hundred and sixteen miles an hour
off the bat the exit velocity that turned out to
be a line drive to left fielder. I mean, in
all other instances, that's a double if it's low enough,
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it's by far, you know, a four hundred and twenty
foot home run if it's high enough. But he hit
that ball, the hardest hit ball the Mets all season,
and it ended up being a third out in an
inning that didn't you know, in one of their last games.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
One hundred and sixteen miles an hour.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
It's ridiculous. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
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Speaker 1 (10:00):
We're talking about this big meeting, hundreds of generals, admirals
summoned from around the world to Quantico. Short notice meeting
called last week by Defense Secretary Pete Haigseth. Very unusual,
very unprecedented, And the big headline is ten new.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Policies rolled out.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But the grabbing one is that physical fitness benchmarks are
coming back. They will return to the highest mail standard
for combat roles blasted fat troops, fat generals saying it's
a bad look.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But he's talking about everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's talking about everybody, everybody in the Pentagon, everybody out
in the field.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
US no, no, no more donuts.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Question Mark, how many donuts have you eaten in the
last year, calendar year? How many donuts? It's not a
problem for you.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And it was really a stupid press by the way.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Then President Trump got up and talked about, among other things,
sort of the warrior ethos that he liked. He talked
about the celebration of the strength of the American military
and that we would continue this in the future months.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
In the coming months, we'll be making even more historic
announcements to fully embrace the identity of the Department of War.
I love the name. I think it's so great. I
think it stops worse. The Department of War is going
to stop worse. If we are as ruthless and relentless
as our enemies, the United States Armed Forces will be
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totally unmatched in the future.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
He had that cotton mouthy kind of dry eat a.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Glass of water right on the podium.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
No matter who you are, I realize that when we
are doing the show on our own, when you're not here,
I totally get like that. After six minutes of talking
on my own, and he did it for an hour,
and he did it for an hour. Everybody needs it.
It's not like a knock or anything. Now, he did
get into a little bit of what I believe is
behind this meeting. I believe that the President is very
(11:54):
pissed off with Vladimir Putin and Putin's failure to bend
the knee and do what Trump wants. And I think
that he kind of alluded to that in his speech today.
Trump did saying, you know, and I'm paraphras because I
don't remember exactly what he said, but something to the
fact of, you know, Russia's been pissing me off. We
(12:16):
sent a submarine over there, the most powerful military tool
that exists on the planet, and.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
It was really a stupid person that works for I
mentioned the word nuclear. I moved a submarine or two.
I won't say about the two.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Over to the coast submarine or.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Of Russia, just to be careful. Guess we can't let
people throw around that word. I call it the N word.
There are two N words, and you can't use either
of them.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh, my god, can use either of Do you think
he was waiting for a lad Yes, yes.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
If it does get to use we have more than
anybody else. We have better, we have newer.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, it's again him off script is the worst thing
that he does to himself. He only makes himself sound
silly when he does that. The speech itself was great.
The speech where he's reading it from the telepronter. This
is a this is a good, raw, raw patriotic military
that kicks ass kind of speech.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
He's just looking for community. He loves it when he
goes looking for community. He loves it when he goes
off script and people eat it up.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But he got it at the Charlie Kirk Memorial.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
He gets it every he got it at the un
But this is the hardest room to make chuckle.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
They're not gonna chuckle. They're not easy chucklers.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
He also had some moments of levity, again without laughters,
without laughter, But he was referring to President Obama and
his popping down the stairs of Air Force one.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
A few of our presidents have fallen and became a
part of their legacy. We don't want to walk nice
and easy. You're not having You don't have to set
any record. Be cool, be cool when you walk down.
But don't don't bop down the stairs. So one thing
with Obama. I had zero respect for him as a president,
but he would bop down those stairs. I've never said,
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go down farrissed. It's great. I don't want to do it.
I guess I could do it.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
But eventually he's trying to find com.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
I mean, here is a lousy Javis president.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Here's a speech about fitness, about physical fitness. He's trying
to say, I'm just like you. You know, I go down
the stairs. Obama, he sold it too hard. Bop bump,
you know. I think he's just looking for community.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
A couple of military guys. I wanted to play this.
Jocko Willink. You've heard him. He's a podcaster. He's interviewed
all the time, former Navy seal about this meeting.
Speaker 10 (14:57):
In factor matters.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
As a leader, there's times where you want to bring
your true together and address them directly. And I think
it's surprising that this doesn't happen or hasn't happened before
in the past more often. I know. Pete Hexeth is
an infantrymen, and when you're on the battlefield sometimes you
go through great lengths to unify your soldiers, get them
together and put out work, and I think that's what
the message was today.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And then the other one is Alex Plitznen. He is
a former Army Special ops officer.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
This was clear that this was the Secretary attempting to
get back to a state of readiness that he sees
is necessary to fight wars and a removal of policies
that have been in place that he feels are inhibiting
that from Like there were mentions about anonymous complaints that
have come in for not having gender neutral standards, where
folks were having different standards to do jobs that should
require a same level of standard for physical activity, etc.
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So trying to level set and get back to what
he sees it as good set of readiness in order
to achieve his mission.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And you can't ignore the fact that military recruitment is up,
numbers are up, that men and women that want to
join the military, harry and the armed forces. They are
doing so more so now than they have in the
past recent past. So all that stuff, all that is
good when we come back. Taliban has decided that they're
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going to cut the Internet from Afghanistan, which I'm sure
wasn't necessarily I'm intrigue reaching one gigabyte speeds or anything
like that, but I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It makes me want to go live under the Taliban.
Oh really, not really, but no Internet sounds refreshing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
There's another story coming up later as well that families
are turning back to landlines.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I know, give me my bur gun, give me my cord.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (16:43):
We haven't even said the words government shutdown yet, thank gods.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Probably late tonight, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
The outer bands of Hurricane Umberto hit Bermuda today as
it approached this tiny little territory. The newly formed hurricane
Immelda is right behind it. They're saying it looks like
the Fujiwara effect is taking effect, is affecting is on,
is happening where Umberto, the larger of the hurricanes, is
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farther out in the Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
They said it might actually be.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Drawing Imelda away from the eastern seaboard. Ah magnet, that
would actually be that would actually be a good thing.
Speaker 10 (17:23):
Hey Shannon, little princess, you are aware that Pete Hicksith
actually got awarded the Medal of Valor because of what
he did in Afghanistan as a warrior.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Not true.
Speaker 10 (17:37):
Granted he did not make a career out of it,
but he was down in the trenches taking fire with
the rest of his troops. So yes, he understands it too.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Just a quick correction. He did not get the Medal
of Valor. He did get a Bronze Star for meritorious service,
but not for valor.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It was falsely claimed by the White House in September
that he got the Medal of Valor or The White
House has since deleted that video. But thank you, Princess,
appreciate it and listen, nobody I have acknowledged that he's
served in the military. It's not I mean, that's that
is to be commended. But if you're a top general
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in this country's military and Pete Haig Seth calls you,
he's your boss, and that's not.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Hard to take.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I mean, was it harder for these guys to accept
Barack Obama as their commander in chief? Hell yeah, somebody
who's never served in the military. Trump has never served
in the military. That's hard to take. But when Pete
Haig Seth calls all hands on deck, to Quantico, and
you've got to leave your post in an active a
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theater in Europe or wherever the hell you are and
pack your bags and come to listen to a raw
Ras speech. I'm sorry, but that's a little hard to take.
And that's not political at all. That's just bravado and
what comes along with it.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And well, we don't have to delabor it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But we've said many times before we do have the
best military right.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We don't have to go around saying it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Afghanistan has entered a second day without internet or phone access.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Princess me get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
After the Taliban leadership in Kandahar ordered this ban on
fiber optics service, they said it was probably akin to
a total internet blackout.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Lights from Kabble to Dubai have been canceled, Banks, hospitals,
struggling businesses are shuttered, consulates Afghan consulates abroad of suspended
visa services. This was billed as kind of a way
to keep the women down, Afghan women down, which is
one of the tenants.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There, unplugged their Internet, but it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Obviously is doing a hell of a lot more than
keeping women down. Women be shopping right Lindsen Princess, put
on your burk and take care of the children.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
A regime official said that they have been talking about
this for about a week, that they were going to
flip the switch and turn off the Internet, but that
the final call was made by the leadership in Kandahar.
They said we can't live without the internet, and that
everything is at a standstill at this moment. The Afghan
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consulates visa issuance and most internal communications have also been suspended.
Think about I've mentioned this book multiple times in these instances,
but Vince Flynn had a book called A Total Power,
and it was all about how terrorists attacked the power
grid in North America and basically put us in the dark, Internet, electricity,
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et cetera. Very quickly, and within a couple of days
we turned into animals. Now, granted, it's a novel, but
it's not that hard to believe that if somebody took
your internet, your entire community, or your entire state or
region of the country, you'd be in trouble because we
don't know, we don't remember what it's like without it,
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and a lot of people wouldn't be able to function
very well. They said it impacted virtually all Wi Fi connections,
all mobile internet and telephone services, and not only disrupted
one of the last lifelines for Afghan and women and
girls who have been increasingly restricted, but also through the
business the government offices the airports into disarray, like the
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series of unintended consequences. If all you were going to
do is try to keep your women in line, and
you can take the entire country off of christ guided, well,
you know we know how problematic women can be.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's right, and that's why parents across the country are
bringing back their landline.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
The landline is back.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Parents are leading the charge reviving courted phones. They want
to keep their kids off smartphones. Whatever works. I feel
like this is an anecdotal story. Maybe a few parents
are doing this because it's just too easy.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
To get your kids addicted to screens, isn't it. It's
so easy.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It starts so quickly, it's hard to claw them back.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
It's hard to calm back.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Coming up, Gavin Newsom signed to a bill centered on
artificial intelligence.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Tell you what that's in? What's in that? Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Also, the number of flying objects around southern California has
been increasing recently.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
When's the last time you had a landline in your house?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, when we moved into our house, it was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
And no landline.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No landline, So I think we had a landline at
the apartment we lived in, So I guess ten eleven years.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Our house was built in ninety eight or ninety nine,
I think, so each room, every room has at least
one in wall phone jack. We have a landline still.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
We just had it.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because that was the only phone that my parents wanted
to call. They never wanted to call on our cell phone,
so we kept it. And now my parents are gone.
I don't know why we still have a lamb.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
How much you pay for that? It's March twenty bucks.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I heard everything else.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's rolled in with the cable package kind of thing,
so it's not I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Think I had I don't even pay your landline? Can
I have that? I'll start calling it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That would be a really bad idea. Why I don't
need to give you more access?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
But don't you think it'd be nice to hear it
ring again?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I hear it ring all the times?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Just I can I can pretend I'm your parents.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That'd be even weirder. A.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
There is a new product and you can actually check
it out on their website. It's called tin Can, So
if you go to tin Can dot kids. Every one
has developed a landline finger quotes a landline phone that
is Wi Fi enabled, so it looks and feels like
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a landline, plugs into your router, so it is technically
a wired phone, but it is an old school phone
that you can control things like who can call it,
who it can call, no texting, no apps. It's just
one of those big, old plastic brick kind of heavy
(24:30):
phones that comes with a full cord and everything, just
to give you the feel of the nostalgia of twirling
that cord while you were talking on the phone. And
it started. I think it was this company called I
said tit Can. Chet Kittleson is a father of three
out of Seattle. He came up with this idea in
(24:53):
twenty twenty two after school pickup, He said a group
of parents talking about scheduling play dates, and he said
one mom joke that she felt like her daughter's executive assistant.
So I said, hey, remember when we were growing up,
our social network was the landline, and they all laughed.
Some of them said they remembered their own phone numbers,
their friend's phone numbers from high school.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
I remember my best friend's number from here.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Sure, I mean those are those are the Those are
memories that we know that kids will never understand again.
How did you keep these seven digit codes in your
head for so long? And so many of them, so
many of them?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So he has these.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
There's two products, actually, the new school Landline for Friends
is what it's called. One of them is the tin
Can Flashback, which looks just like an old phone that
you would find hanging on a kitchen wall somewhere, with
the long curly cord and everything. There's another one that
is a little bit more has a little bit more
of a design to it that is sort of looks
(25:52):
like literally like a tin can. They both sell for
about seventy five bucks, so it's not cheap necessary, but
it is a plan to get kids away from screens.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
In the company.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
In the past year, the company has sold tens of
thousands of the phones to households in all fifty states
and Canada. They're currently back ordered, with deliveries expected by December.
Says This is a cultural moment, a big shift happening.
People are becoming really aware and awake into this idea
that we have an unhealthy relationship with technology and we're
feeling a little cut off from the people that matter
(26:26):
most to us. We know there's a problem for us.
This feels like an anecdote. Lindsay Vorhees is a mom
of three, an early childhood autism consultant and Oregon plans
to stick to the same rule for all our kids,
no smartphones before high school and no social media until
at least the age of sixteen. But she also wants
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her children to have the opportunity to develop social skills
and engage with friends. So a landline phone feels like
a good compromise. And that's the thing. This is how
the kids get the parents. And I understand. The argument is, well,
you don't want me to have friends. You don't, so
you just want me to You don't want me to
have friends. I'm just k not gonna have friends. I'm
gonna end up a school shooter. Like I can hear
the argument playing out, And you don't want that as
(27:08):
a parent, you know what I mean. You don't want
your kid to be socially stunted. So you give in, right.
I kind of remember the same thing about you know,
having a phone in my room was an argument. Why
do you need a phone in your room? That's the
gateway to the devil?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Mom, God, I.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Don't want dodd your old conversations.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Pew Research reports that ninety five percent of teenagers ninety
five percent either have or have access to smartphones. Ninety
five percent. I mean even five years ago, it wasn't
that high.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, you look at the homeless, they all have cell phones. Yeah,
why wouldn't a teenager who's just a homeless living in
your house, they don't make any money, Why wouldn't they
have a cell phone?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
I mean, it's you big quittis.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Kylie Kelsey, Jason's wife, set off a discussion when she
announced in her podcast that she wanted to implement what
she called the kitchen phone for their four daughters. The
kitchen phone rule. It's literally a cell phone. It's an
extra cell phone for the family that lives in the kitchen.
Not exactly a landline, but similar. You can't leave the
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kitchen with it. The phone stays in the kitchen. Whatever
conversation you're going to have on the kitchen phone. Better
be appropriate for the entire family, because everybody's going to
be able to hear you.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah. I well, here, I'll go back to being a kid.
I could be having a conversation with one of my girlfriends.
That's not a pro It's not nefarious, but it's also
not something I want the whole family to hear. Yeah,
but you also privacy that can you can have without
you know, but.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Isn't that part of the social learning process. I mean,
you're trying not to be dece decept around your parents
or anything like that, but you have to understand that
some things are best kept in a closed room or
a private or face to face or you have to
you have to be able to develop those plans when
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it comes to the social interactions and who's going to
be around when you interact.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I mean, you made us all wait ten years to
see your feet.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That isn't that is a perfect example.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I know, you got to be ready for it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You got to make sure your kids are ready for it, right,
you know, and you had to make sure we were
all ready for your feet.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I mean I would say roughly ninety nine point nine
percent of people have feet, Yeah, right, and I had.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
To wait till my mid forties to see your feet. Yeah,
like I wasn't ready for it in my mid thirties.
You were like, oh, you're not ready for it because
you know, you know your kid's the best.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
You know your kids the best.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Imagine what you would feel like if you were thirty
too early?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
If I saw them too early?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You saw my feet?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Oh my god? And you can't put the toothpaste back
in the tube? Can you would?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
You?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Could you even dare with feet?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, we've got California passing a sweeping AI safety law.
What's in this thing? Is it? Is it strong enough?
Is it too strong? We'll get into all of that, yes, Princess,
we will. Okay, that's not gonna last very long for you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
We'll see you've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
There was a lockdown a joint based McGuire Dix Lakehurst
in New Jersey. Apparently it has been canceled. All personnel
we're told to lockdown. All personnel outdoors should take cover.
There was discussion of some sort of an active shooter,
but at this point they say that lockdown has been lifted.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All right, guys, we are gonna look good. We're gonna
be stronger. We're gonna call you a pansy when you're
a pansy.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We're gonna call you a fat ass when you're a
fat ass.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We will not have fat asses leading us into battle.
And don't say the two N words, which were, oh
you didn't hear that part. Oh, oh well, we'll get
to it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh okay, this give me this elmer over here.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
There you go. Surprise.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
If the Secretary of War can do regular hard pt,
so can every member.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Of our joint force. Frankly, it's tiring.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
To look out at combat formations or really any formation
and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
To see fat generals.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And admirals in the halls of the Pentagon, oh and
leading commands around the country in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's a bad look. It is bad and it's not
who we are.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So whether you're an airborne ranger or a chairborne ranger,
a brand new private or a four star general, you
need to meet the height and weight standards and pass
the PT test.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And as the Chairman said, yes, there is no cont test.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But today, at my direction, every member of the Joint Force,
at every rank is required to take a PT test
twice a year.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Uh, Quanticoperadilly doesn't have a great sound system.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You disgusting fat body. You owe me for one jelly
donut If you don't get the reference, I'm disappointed.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Which would have.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Been a perfect speech for them to play. Yes, right
before Pete haig Seth took the stage.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
No more identity months offices, dudes in dresses, no more
climate change worship, no more division distraction or gender delusions,
no more debris.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
As I've said.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Before and we'll say again, we are done with that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
At my wedding, before the ceremony began, I had glasses
of champagne passed out to people as they were walking
and get into the festive mood. Pete haik Seth had
testosterone pills passed out before this one for everybody. And
you know, it's probably music to the general's ears that
were done with dei and loving and Kumbaya moments for
(02:41):
the military. While culturally that may be a place to
aspire to be with the military, not a lot of a.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Place for it. So that is good.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Ten new policies, including stricter grooming standards. What does that mean?
Is this like the Yankees, Now you've got to shave
your beard? Is that the deal?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, my understanding was that for a very long time,
basically since the beginning of what was the American military
in all of its forms, beards were not allowed.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It was only.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Recently when we started going into areas where beards were
not just acceptable, but beards were required of men. I
think special operations forces on these forward operating bases in
places like Afghanistan or deep inside Pakistan or Iraq or
something like that. If they're going to fit in with
the with the locals and you know, gain the trust
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of the locals, one of the things they had to
do was grow beards. Now, I don't know if that changes.
I don't know if there are special rules that are
going to be cut out for them. But he said,
no more beardos. The era of unacceptable appearance is over.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Can I chime in on this? Yeh, Bens, can you yeah? Yeah, no,
you have a beard?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
You were in the military, yes, But this was a
huge thing because like even airmen throughout, like the beginning
of their careers, they would get shaving waivers and they'd
grow beards, and there'd be a lot of animosity between
like the people shaving their face and the people keeping
the beard.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Why would they keep their beard because they got like
little dots and stuff, you know what I mean, like
little pricks, and they'd go to medical they'd be like, oh,
we need a shaving waiver. Then they'd go like four
years without shaving because they had this piece of paper.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
They had razor burn and that was enough for the
military to allow them to grow a beard.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
My boyfriend was in the Navy, and that was an
ex boyfriend, but he had the same thing because he
got razor burns so bad he had a waiver.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Going back to Full Metal Jacket, that's the opening scene.
Guys in their hair and their facial hair. Very serious,
like it's always been a thing for men, just says
it is for women and women's hair, like it is
a big deal for you to enter the military and
get everything cut off.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
The psychological aspect, Yes, you are all equals. You're all
starting at the same position. And that was one of
the ways that they would do that. Yeah, so now
they're back to that this warrior ethos that he talked about.
Now you pointed out that they probably passed out testosterone pills.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The one thing that I noticed this morning, in the
parts of this that I saw, there was very little
reaction from the men and women in that room.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, like I told you, I understand Pete haig Seth
served in the military, but you know him as a
TV personality, Pete haig Seth calling all of the nation's
top brass. These men have lived it, they have walked it,
they have been through it. So for Pete hag Seth
to summon them alone is insane and then to sit
(05:50):
down and listen to their new boss try to explain
their job to them not going to go over well,
I mean, consider what's in that room.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
When it comes to Pride, and ego and all of it,
and you're listening to your new boss.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That's a TV guy. That's a hard.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Thing to take despite even if he was in the military,
he was in the military for a moment compared to
these men.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, and women's here.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
There is an aspect of it that I don't like
the idea of it because I don't I don't like
the performative nature of it, the idea that you are
calling all because you can call all your generals and
admirals back to Virginia for this meeting.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You could have done this same speech that would have been.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Watched by all of them from the pre from you know,
from the over.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
World power move look at me and make no mistake
about It's from the administration down to Pete Haig Seth.
But I'm able to bring the most powerful men in
the world into one room I called this meeting.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
It is total ego.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I do have a couple of sound bites, one from
a former Army Special operations officer, one from a former
Navy seal their reactions to what they saw today. But
also President Trump really wasted an opportunity in his hour
plus speech that he gave to that same room of
generals and admirals.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He made it nowhere to go.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
He made it about himself. He went on too long.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was kind of reminiscent of the Kirk Memorial of
making it about you, saying if he doesn't get the
Nobel Peace Prize, it's a travesty.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Oh and we'll get to the two N words as well.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Six forty wild Card series get underway tonight. The Dodgers
will take on the Reds in the final game starting
at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Walk me through the Is it best of five, best
of three?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
This is best of three? They play them all in
one stadium, one stadium. Yeah, they don't travel.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Try to keep it.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
When did they change that?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Two?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Okay, okay, three years ago? I'm I'm worried about the Reds.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Any any Dodgers fan that's like, oh, this easy series,
it's rough to talk about it, aft brain, Yeah, listen,
cheer for your team, yes, but be realistic. The Reds
are by far the hottest team in the league right now.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You know, I was reading an article this morning about
the Mets spending what three hundred and fifty million on
a team that doesn't even make the playoffs, Like it
was one of those teams that was built with money
to go the distance and just fizzled.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I mean, was there even a spark? It's been a
rough go.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There was.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
To put it in perspective, there was a weird statistic
that I saw. Everything is now measured right in baseball,
the statistics are ridiculous. Pete Alonzo hit a ball at
one hundred almost one hundred and sixteen miles an hour
off the bat the exit velocity that turned out to
be a line drive to left fielder. I mean, in
all other instances, that's a double if it's low enough,
(09:01):
it's by far, you know, a four hundred and twenty
foot home run if it's high enough. But he hit
that ball, the hardest hit ball the Mets all season,
and it ended up being a third out in an
inning that didn't you know, in one of their last games.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
One hundred and sixteen miles an hour.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
It's ridiculous. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
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Speaker 1 (10:00):
We're talking about this big meeting, hundreds of generals, admirals
summoned from around the world to Quantico. Short notice meeting
called last week by Defense Secretary Pete Haigseth. Very unusual,
very unprecedented, And the big headline is ten new.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Policies rolled out.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But the grabbing one is that physical fitness benchmarks are
coming back. They will return to the highest mail standard
for combat roles blasted fat troops, fat generals saying it's
a bad look.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But he's talking about everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's talking about everybody, everybody in the Pentagon, everybody out
in the field.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
US no, no, no more donuts.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Question Mark, how many donuts have you eaten in the
last year, calendar year? How many donuts? It's not a
problem for you.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And it was really a stupid press by the way.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Then President Trump got up and talked about, among other things,
sort of the warrior ethos that he liked. He talked
about the celebration of the strength of the American military
and that we would continue this in the future months.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
In the coming months, we'll be making even more historic
announcements to fully embrace the identity of the Department of War.
I love the name. I think it's so great. I
think it stops worse. The Department of War is going
to stop worse. If we are as ruthless and relentless
as our enemies, the United States Armed Forces will be
(11:24):
totally unmatched in the future.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
He had that cotton mouthy kind of dry eat a.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Glass of water right on the podium.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
No matter who you are, I realize that when we
are doing the show on our own, when you're not here,
I totally get like that. After six minutes of talking
on my own, and he did it for an hour,
and he did it for an hour. Everybody needs it.
It's not like a knock or anything. Now, he did
get into a little bit of what I believe is
behind this meeting. I believe that the President is very
(11:54):
pissed off with Vladimir Putin and Putin's failure to bend
the knee and do what Trump wants. And I think
that he kind of alluded to that in his speech today.
Trump did saying, you know, and I'm paraphras because I
don't remember exactly what he said, but something to the
fact of, you know, Russia's been pissing me off. We
(12:16):
sent a submarine over there, the most powerful military tool
that exists on the planet, and.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
It was really a stupid person that works for I
mentioned the word nuclear. I moved a submarine or two.
I won't say about the two.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Over to the coast submarine or.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Of Russia, just to be careful. Guess we can't let
people throw around that word. I call it the N word.
There are two N words, and you can't use either
of them.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh, my god, can use either of Do you think
he was waiting for a lad Yes, yes.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
If it does get to use we have more than
anybody else. We have better, we have newer.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, it's again him off script is the worst thing
that he does to himself. He only makes himself sound
silly when he does that. The speech itself was great.
The speech where he's reading it from the telepronter. This
is a this is a good, raw, raw patriotic military
that kicks ass kind of speech.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
He's just looking for community. He loves it when he
goes looking for community. He loves it when he goes
off script and people eat it up.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But he got it at the Charlie Kirk Memorial.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
He gets it every he got it at the un
But this is the hardest room to make chuckle.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
They're not gonna chuckle. They're not easy chucklers.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
He also had some moments of levity, again without laughters,
without laughter, But he was referring to President Obama and
his popping down the stairs of Air Force one.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
A few of our presidents have fallen and became a
part of their legacy. We don't want to walk nice
and easy. You're not having You don't have to set
any record. Be cool, be cool when you walk down.
But don't don't bop down the stairs. So one thing
with Obama. I had zero respect for him as a president,
but he would bop down those stairs. I've never said,
(14:26):
go down farrissed. It's great. I don't want to do it.
I guess I could do it.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
But eventually he's trying to find com.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
I mean, here is a lousy Javis president.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Here's a speech about fitness, about physical fitness. He's trying
to say, I'm just like you. You know, I go down
the stairs. Obama, he sold it too hard. Bop bump,
you know. I think he's just looking for community.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
A couple of military guys. I wanted to play this.
Jocko Willink. You've heard him. He's a podcaster. He's interviewed
all the time, former Navy seal about this meeting.
Speaker 10 (14:57):
In factor matters.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
As a leader, there's times where you want to bring
your true together and address them directly. And I think
it's surprising that this doesn't happen or hasn't happened before
in the past more often. I know. Pete Hexeth is
an infantrymen, and when you're on the battlefield sometimes you
go through great lengths to unify your soldiers, get them
together and put out work, and I think that's what
the message was today.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And then the other one is Alex Plitznen. He is
a former Army Special ops officer.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
This was clear that this was the Secretary attempting to
get back to a state of readiness that he sees
is necessary to fight wars and a removal of policies
that have been in place that he feels are inhibiting
that from Like there were mentions about anonymous complaints that
have come in for not having gender neutral standards, where
folks were having different standards to do jobs that should
require a same level of standard for physical activity, etc.
(15:45):
So trying to level set and get back to what
he sees it as good set of readiness in order
to achieve his mission.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And you can't ignore the fact that military recruitment is up,
numbers are up, that men and women that want to
join the military, harry and the armed forces. They are
doing so more so now than they have in the
past recent past. So all that stuff, all that is
good when we come back. Taliban has decided that they're
(16:11):
going to cut the Internet from Afghanistan, which I'm sure
wasn't necessarily I'm intrigue reaching one gigabyte speeds or anything
like that, but I'm intrigued.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It makes me want to go live under the Taliban.
Oh really, not really, but no Internet sounds refreshing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
There's another story coming up later as well that families
are turning back to landlines.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I know, give me my bur gun, give me my cord.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (16:43):
We haven't even said the words government shutdown yet, thank gods.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Probably late tonight, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
The outer bands of Hurricane Umberto hit Bermuda today as
it approached this tiny little territory. The newly formed hurricane
Immelda is right behind it. They're saying it looks like
the Fujiwara effect is taking effect, is affecting is on,
is happening where Umberto, the larger of the hurricanes, is
(17:12):
farther out in the Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
They said it might actually be.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Drawing Imelda away from the eastern seaboard. Ah magnet, that
would actually be that would actually be a good thing.
Speaker 10 (17:23):
Hey Shannon, little princess, you are aware that Pete Hicksith
actually got awarded the Medal of Valor because of what
he did in Afghanistan as a warrior.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Not true.
Speaker 10 (17:37):
Granted he did not make a career out of it,
but he was down in the trenches taking fire with
the rest of his troops. So yes, he understands it too.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Just a quick correction. He did not get the Medal
of Valor. He did get a Bronze Star for meritorious service,
but not for valor.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It was falsely claimed by the White House in September
that he got the Medal of Valor or The White
House has since deleted that video. But thank you, Princess,
appreciate it and listen, nobody I have acknowledged that he's
served in the military. It's not I mean, that's that
is to be commended. But if you're a top general
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in this country's military and Pete Haig Seth calls you,
he's your boss, and that's not.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Hard to take.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I mean, was it harder for these guys to accept
Barack Obama as their commander in chief? Hell yeah, somebody
who's never served in the military. Trump has never served
in the military. That's hard to take. But when Pete
Haig Seth calls all hands on deck, to Quantico, and
you've got to leave your post in an active a
(18:54):
theater in Europe or wherever the hell you are and
pack your bags and come to listen to a raw
Ras speech. I'm sorry, but that's a little hard to take.
And that's not political at all. That's just bravado and
what comes along with it.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And well, we don't have to delabor it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But we've said many times before we do have the
best military right.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We don't have to go around saying it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Afghanistan has entered a second day without internet or phone access.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Princess me get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
After the Taliban leadership in Kandahar ordered this ban on
fiber optics service, they said it was probably akin to
a total internet blackout.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Lights from Kabble to Dubai have been canceled, Banks, hospitals,
struggling businesses are shuttered, consulates Afghan consulates abroad of suspended
visa services. This was billed as kind of a way
to keep the women down, Afghan women down, which is
one of the tenants.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There, unplugged their Internet, but it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Obviously is doing a hell of a lot more than
keeping women down. Women be shopping right Lindsen Princess, put
on your burk and take care of the children.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
A regime official said that they have been talking about
this for about a week, that they were going to
flip the switch and turn off the Internet, but that
the final call was made by the leadership in Kandahar.
They said we can't live without the internet, and that
everything is at a standstill at this moment. The Afghan
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consulates visa issuance and most internal communications have also been suspended.
Think about I've mentioned this book multiple times in these instances,
but Vince Flynn had a book called A Total Power,
and it was all about how terrorists attacked the power
grid in North America and basically put us in the dark, Internet, electricity,
(20:52):
et cetera. Very quickly, and within a couple of days
we turned into animals. Now, granted, it's a novel, but
it's not that hard to believe that if somebody took
your internet, your entire community, or your entire state or
region of the country, you'd be in trouble because we
don't know, we don't remember what it's like without it,
(21:14):
and a lot of people wouldn't be able to function
very well. They said it impacted virtually all Wi Fi connections,
all mobile internet and telephone services, and not only disrupted
one of the last lifelines for Afghan and women and
girls who have been increasingly restricted, but also through the
business the government offices the airports into disarray, like the
(21:35):
series of unintended consequences. If all you were going to
do is try to keep your women in line, and
you can take the entire country off of christ guided, well,
you know we know how problematic women can be.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's right, and that's why parents across the country are
bringing back their landline.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
The landline is back.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Parents are leading the charge reviving courted phones. They want
to keep their kids off smartphones. Whatever works. I feel
like this is an anecdotal story. Maybe a few parents
are doing this because it's just too easy.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
To get your kids addicted to screens, isn't it. It's
so easy.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It starts so quickly, it's hard to claw them back.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
It's hard to calm back.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
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Tell you what that's in? What's in that? Excuse me?
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Speaker 3 (22:41):
When's the last time you had a landline in your house?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, when we moved into our house, it was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
And no landline.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No landline, So I think we had a landline at
the apartment we lived in, So I guess ten eleven years.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Our house was built in ninety eight or ninety nine,
I think, so each room, every room has at least
one in wall phone jack. We have a landline still.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
We just had it.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because that was the only phone that my parents wanted
to call. They never wanted to call on our cell phone,
so we kept it. And now my parents are gone.
I don't know why we still have a lamb.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
How much you pay for that? It's March twenty bucks.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I heard everything else.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's rolled in with the cable package kind of thing,
so it's not I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Think I had I don't even pay your landline? Can
I have that? I'll start calling it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That would be a really bad idea. Why I don't
need to give you more access?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
But don't you think it'd be nice to hear it
ring again?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I hear it ring all the times?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Just I can I can pretend I'm your parents.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That'd be even weirder. A.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
There is a new product and you can actually check
it out on their website. It's called tin Can, So
if you go to tin Can dot kids. Every one
has developed a landline finger quotes a landline phone that
is Wi Fi enabled, so it looks and feels like
(24:10):
a landline, plugs into your router, so it is technically
a wired phone, but it is an old school phone
that you can control things like who can call it,
who it can call, no texting, no apps. It's just
one of those big, old plastic brick kind of heavy
(24:30):
phones that comes with a full cord and everything, just
to give you the feel of the nostalgia of twirling
that cord while you were talking on the phone. And
it started. I think it was this company called I
said tit Can. Chet Kittleson is a father of three
out of Seattle. He came up with this idea in
(24:53):
twenty twenty two after school pickup, He said a group
of parents talking about scheduling play dates, and he said
one mom joke that she felt like her daughter's executive assistant.
So I said, hey, remember when we were growing up,
our social network was the landline, and they all laughed.
Some of them said they remembered their own phone numbers,
their friend's phone numbers from high school.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
I remember my best friend's number from here.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Sure, I mean those are those are the Those are
memories that we know that kids will never understand again.
How did you keep these seven digit codes in your
head for so long? And so many of them, so
many of them?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
So he has these.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
There's two products, actually, the new school Landline for Friends
is what it's called. One of them is the tin
Can Flashback, which looks just like an old phone that
you would find hanging on a kitchen wall somewhere, with
the long curly cord and everything. There's another one that
is a little bit more has a little bit more
of a design to it that is sort of looks
(25:52):
like literally like a tin can. They both sell for
about seventy five bucks, so it's not cheap necessary, but
it is a plan to get kids away from screens.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
In the company.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
In the past year, the company has sold tens of
thousands of the phones to households in all fifty states
and Canada. They're currently back ordered, with deliveries expected by December.
Says This is a cultural moment, a big shift happening.
People are becoming really aware and awake into this idea
that we have an unhealthy relationship with technology and we're
feeling a little cut off from the people that matter
(26:26):
most to us. We know there's a problem for us.
This feels like an anecdote. Lindsay Vorhees is a mom
of three, an early childhood autism consultant and Oregon plans
to stick to the same rule for all our kids,
no smartphones before high school and no social media until
at least the age of sixteen. But she also wants
(26:46):
her children to have the opportunity to develop social skills
and engage with friends. So a landline phone feels like
a good compromise. And that's the thing. This is how
the kids get the parents. And I understand. The argument is, well,
you don't want me to have friends. You don't, so
you just want me to You don't want me to
have friends. I'm just k not gonna have friends. I'm
gonna end up a school shooter. Like I can hear
the argument playing out, And you don't want that as
(27:08):
a parent, you know what I mean. You don't want
your kid to be socially stunted. So you give in, right.
I kind of remember the same thing about you know,
having a phone in my room was an argument. Why
do you need a phone in your room? That's the
gateway to the devil?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Mom, God, I.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Don't want dodd your old conversations.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Pew Research reports that ninety five percent of teenagers ninety
five percent either have or have access to smartphones. Ninety
five percent. I mean even five years ago, it wasn't
that high.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, you look at the homeless, they all have cell phones. Yeah,
why wouldn't a teenager who's just a homeless living in
your house, they don't make any money, Why wouldn't they
have a cell phone?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
I mean, it's you big quittis.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Kylie Kelsey, Jason's wife, set off a discussion when she
announced in her podcast that she wanted to implement what
she called the kitchen phone for their four daughters. The
kitchen phone rule. It's literally a cell phone. It's an
extra cell phone for the family that lives in the kitchen.
Not exactly a landline, but similar. You can't leave the
(28:23):
kitchen with it. The phone stays in the kitchen. Whatever
conversation you're going to have on the kitchen phone. Better
be appropriate for the entire family, because everybody's going to
be able to hear you.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah. I well, here, I'll go back to being a kid.
I could be having a conversation with one of my girlfriends.
That's not a pro It's not nefarious, but it's also
not something I want the whole family to hear. Yeah,
but you also privacy that can you can have without
you know, but.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Isn't that part of the social learning process. I mean,
you're trying not to be dece decept around your parents
or anything like that, but you have to understand that
some things are best kept in a closed room or
a private or face to face or you have to
you have to be able to develop those plans when
(29:13):
it comes to the social interactions and who's going to
be around when you interact.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I mean, you made us all wait ten years to
see your feet.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
That isn't that is a perfect example.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
I know, you got to be ready for it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You got to make sure your kids are ready for it, right,
you know, and you had to make sure we were
all ready for your feet.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I mean I would say roughly ninety nine point nine
percent of people have feet, Yeah, right, and I had.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
To wait till my mid forties to see your feet. Yeah,
like I wasn't ready for it in my mid thirties.
You were like, oh, you're not ready for it because
you know, you know your kid's the best.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
You know your kids the best.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Imagine what you would feel like if you were thirty
too early?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
If I saw them too early?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You saw my feet?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Oh my god? And you can't put the toothpaste back
in the tube? Can you would?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
You?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Could you even dare with feet?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Okay, we've got California passing a sweeping AI safety law.
What's in this thing? Is it? Is it strong enough?
Is it too strong? We'll get into all of that, yes, Princess,
we will. Okay, that's not gonna last very long for you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
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