The Rising Tensions of WWIII—Trump and Putin’s Latest Moves! Unraveling “The Devil of the Ozarks,” an HBO documentary about an Arkansas police chief who is suspected of murder, this film tests his DNA and reveals a 20-year-old rap sheet. Exciting New Career Trend: The “Stay-at-Home Son”! Plus, Exclusive Insights into Sherri Papini’s Side of the Story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
There's a lot of bottom of the Hour, the new
dream job that's out there. You ever wanted to be
a stay at home kid in this case is stay
at home son. So I have.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
A nephew, My husband's sister's son is twenty just turned
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
He's a stay at home son.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
He goes and went to law school, went to college,
went to law school, has had jobs, works in a
legislative office in Hawaii, but lives at home and loves.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It well as a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
The whole bit like living this totally normal, successful life
living at home.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I would argue with the words normal and successful in
that context, right, but I mean in terms of checking
off the boxes, you know, advancement through life and jobs
in school and all of that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But yeah, lives at home, and why would he she
has a house in Hawaii. You know, it takes out
all that awkward living situations that we all went through
in our twenties of figuring out how to pay the
rent and eating like a trash rat, and you know, laundry.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Where are you going to do your lot?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
All the things, all those awful things, just skip.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Right over them.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Also at ten o'clock, we're going to get into the
story because it continues. President Trump threatened to withhold federal
funding from the state if we allow biological boys to
compete against girls in high school sports. The California or
Scholastic Federation claims that they came up with a policy
over the weekend before Trump's truth social post. But we'll
(01:50):
talk about that new policy they have for this upcoming
state wide track meet that's coming up this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Elon Musk and Trump differ when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That big, beautiful bill. Yeah, we knew this was We
knew they were going to break up at some point.
This appears to be sort of the first big step
in that direction.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
They're calling it a significant fracture in the partnership.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, not good. He made his.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Comments Elon did in an interview with CBS came out
last night. He said the legislation undermines the work of
his Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. Republicans recently pushed the
legislation through the House, debating it in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
When it comes to World War three.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Ye it appears that we are ratcheting even closer thanks
to the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Russia and
Ukraine have been trading hundreds of drones. It appears every
night back and forth. One of the issues that we
brought up yesterday was that some countries that have been
providing Ukraine with the longer range weapons gave them to
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Ukraine in exchange for a limitation on how far they
could be used. Now it looks like we are taking
we being those countries taking those restrictions off.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Germany is one of those.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The Chancellor Frederick Meers met with Vladimir Zelensky, President of Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Angolomdi tailhos tutunk.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We will continue our military supports and even increase it
so that Ukraine can continue to defend itself against this
Russian aggression now and.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
In the future.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Disminister the eden Heud and our defense ministers are going
to sign a memorandum of understanding on the procurement of
long range weapons systems produced by Ukraine, so called long
range fires. There will be no range limits on these.
Ukraine will be able to fully defend itself, including against
military targets outside its own territory.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So where we last left the fight between Trump and Putin,
Trump being upset that he thought he was gaining ground
with these peace talks with the prisoner swap, all the
while Putin is attacking Ukraine major provocation over the weekend.
On Capitol Hill, all the people in the know say
that Trump has yet to make a decision on whether
(04:06):
to impose additional sanctions on Moscow, the way that you
talked about yesterday, Gary about how well, yeah, you're upset
with him, but that's pretty weak stream.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
What are you going to do about it?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's said that pro Ukraine allies on Capitol Hill treading
very carefully. They're trying to urge the White House to
consider following up on those threats with new sanctions. But
they are treading carefully because Trump is not really he's
not interested in that. And for my point yesterday of
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he needs Russia for money, he needs Russia for funding,
he always has, the whole family goes to Russia for funding,
and that's just not a bridge. I don't think Trump
is willing to burn in terms of what happens when
he leaves the White House.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, and not that he responds to this kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But I mentioned yesterday also that Reportuplicans in the Senate,
well bipartisan senators have come together with what they propose
as the latest newest package of sanctions against Russia that
already without a vote, has the support of some eighty
plus senators who have worked on it. Does that put
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enough pressure on the White House to make him do anything?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hard to say.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We also know that Sergei Lavrov, a spokesperson for Vladimir Putin,
has said that Russia has proposed a next round of
talks with Ukraine to take place on the second of June,
so next week. Again, this is all from Russia side.
The Kremlin says that they have chosen Istanbul, Turkey to
be their choice of host. The Turkish city held the
(05:43):
last round of talks between the two delegations, but as
of yet, no Ukrainian official has given any sort of
official public response to this. Again, Russia says they want
to hold some talks coming up on June second.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
We'll see if it actually takes place.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
A former police chief who is known as the Devil
in the Ozarks has escaped prison in Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
His name is Grant harden. He is on the loose.
He is good for murder and rape. Will tell you
what we know about his breakout.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I heard this story about the breakout of the inmates
in New Orleans, and one of the things they wanted
the public to know is that the two remaining people
that broke out of that jail and have not been
caught are street smart. And I thought to myself, you think, yeah,
do you think? And isn't that one of the things
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that like is a badge that you have when you
enter prison.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I'm gonna say you've you don't go to prison if
you're not street smart.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
California's second largest reservoir reached full capacity for the third
year in a row. It's the first time it's hit
a record in this fifty seven year history that it's existed.
Lake Oroville is ninety nine percent full, which is good. Oh,
I have great news. At least in your world you
would consider it great news.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Ready, it's about the secret lives and Mormon wives.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, it's about not one, not two birds, but three
asteroids that could collide with the Earth.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh, hell, yes anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
These are apparently right now behind Venus, so they're not
exactly visible to the naked eye. But an international research
team led by Salpola University down in Brazil says at
least three of the asteroids currently in this study shows
that twenty twenty SB five two four five two two
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and twenty twenty c L one three specifically identified asteroids
circle the Sun in tandem with Venus and have some
unstable orbits that could bring them dangerously close to the Earth.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I love that. Yeah, course they're unstable around Venus.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yankeles at Yankeles. Yankees beat the Angels three to two
last night. They'll play again this evening, and then Dodgers
beat the Guardians again. They'll go for a sweep. I
believe it is in just a few minutes, actually about
a half an hour from now. They play in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
This shouldn't surprise you, but nonetheless it should madden you.
The bunch of La City leaders, including the mayor Karen Bassiben,
yanked into court to answer for their complete ineptitude when
it comes to using the money we've approved them to
use for homelessness and the issues. And they have hired
the most arguably the most prestigious law firm in the
(08:40):
country to defend them against their ineptitude. I'm sure it's
pretty cheap, right, No, no, no, And when a government
entity like this agency hires a law firm, that law
firm knows it's not their money they're playing around.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
With, so they over bill for everything.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
They do, all the things, all the un necessary things
that they probably wouldn't do if they had a client
that was cash strapped, which they have none of those
at this level of firm. But the taxpayers are being
taken for a massive ride with this one as well,
so we'll talk about that again.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Not surprising, as surprising, but maddening nonetheless.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Devil in the Ozarks was the title of an HBO documentary,
and the subject of the documentary was a former police
chief who ended up being good for a murder and
a rape, a retroactive rape, I guess I should call it,
because once he was found guilty of the murder, they
throw his DNA in the system. It turns out that
that was the DNA found on a rape victim ten
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years prior or twenty years prior. This reminds me of
a Stephen King book do you remember the Stephen King
book if you're a Stephen King fan desperation about the
police chief who was the law of the land and
was just a really bad apple. This sounds like this
was this guy. He was a police chief of a
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small town in Arkansas and kind of ran it like
that police chief in the Stephen King book did just
a reign of terror as long as he was behind
that badge.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This Rex w Is where did his name go, Rex Latrelle.
That's a guy.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No, Grant Harden's okay, So Grant Harden? Is this this
former police chief? And you mentioned that the murder and
the rape. The murder was a guy that apparently he
had worked with a water department employee, and while working
as the police chief for this tiny little town in
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the Ozarks, he ran a foul of a lot of
the other city employees thought that he was a too
hot headed and b was kind of misusing the small
police department. So this guy was upset that the police
chief got a car fixed, one of the police cars
fixed in a bad way, and he ended up shooting
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James Appleton in the head in the middle of town.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Everybody, not everybody. A couple witnesses apparently saw him do it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They were able to pin it on him pretty quick,
and as you mentioned, that led later to a conviction
on rape after they threw his DNA into Cotis. This
guy has been in a medium security prison. That's the
part that blows me away, medium security prison known as
Calico Rock or in Calico Rock, and he was able
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to escape just a few days after that New Orleans escape.
They said what he did was he impersonated a corrections
officer in dress and manner.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
There's a picture that we have here.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
This is an image of him leaving the prison wearing
what looks like maybe a black T shirt, black baseball cap,
and it's pixelated so you can't see what the word
is on his back, but it probably he says something
like police or security or something.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It was not a standard correctional uniform, but yeah, clearly,
I mean, and this guy fits apart, white, stocky, bald.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
He looks like a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Law enforcement officer, now that that's what all law enforcement
officers look like, but he knows how to play the game.
He was police chief of a small town of Gateway,
and when I say small, about four hundred and fifty
people live in Gateway. He became chief in twenty sixteen,
and they say, virtually overnight there was a dramatic shift
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in that community. That he was out chasing cars for
no reason. He was pulling guns on citizens there in Gateway,
and they said as time went on with him being
police chief, things started going downhill even more so, very fast.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
The current mayor of Gateway is the murder victim's sister.
And you can imagine that the people that this guy
ran a foul of, they're afraid of him and they
want to know what's being done to catch him. Now
you've got us Marshall Service, you've got a law enforcement
in that area, and they said that they've done in
(13:10):
helicopter canine searches of all the areas they think that
he was familiar with. The thing is, the longer this
search goes, the wider that search area has to be
based on the potential for this guy to move around.
So not a good scene for those people who are
afraid of this guy.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
A new dream job for young men, stay at home son.
We'll tell you about it, and it's featured on the
Wall Street Journal today and it seems to be pretty prevalent.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We have all talked about guys who live at home,
basement dwellers, mama's boys, whatever term you want to use,
they may prefer the term stay at home son. There's
a guy who is competing on Jeopardy who actually is
been cleaning up won three days in a row to
the tune of almost sixty thousand dollars. His name is
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Brendan Law, twenty seven years old. He's got a master's
degree in poly psi and he doesn't have a job.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's a recent graduate and yes, does not have a job.
He decided to go with this stay at home son
kind of moniker because he said, I wanted to make
people laugh. He says, even if even if I lost
my first game at Jeopardy, I wanted to make people laugh.
He said, it sounds better than unemployed. And it's tough
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times right now, so let's try and get some laughter
out there. They said, do you use your time at
home since you don't have a job, to put yourself
through some sort of trivia boot camp before the show.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I love his answer about this.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He goes, it was about a month of something like
a Rocky montage with Iya the Tiger. He says, I
practiced with a buzzer, watching five episodes a day in
a suit, standing in my living room.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I was doing cardio every.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Day, getting on the stationary bike and watching an episod
sort of Jeopardy to get my heart rate up. They said,
to simulate the nerves of being on the show. And
he's like, yeah, that was my intention. But no matter
how much you prepare walking onto the stage and having
all the lights and cameras and Ken Jennings and an audience,
he says, there's no way to recreate.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That that label, that stay at home sun label. According
to this Wall Street journal writer taps into this trend
of rejecting hustle culture.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
When did we stop? When was that a thing?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, it's like saying the interviewer says, it's like you're
saying I am not defined by professional success and I
don't care what anyone thinks about that. And he said,
I think that's more typical of my age cohort. My
career doesn't really define me, and it should just be
a thing where I'm okay with what I do to
and make enough to pay the bills. Well Son, you're
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not making enough because you live at home.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I mean, I stave grand will go a long way
to paying some bills. But it's not what a.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Luxury to say I am not defined by my professional
success before you've had any, before you've had any I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Mean, seriously, think about that.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, it's one thing to get achieve something and be like, oh,
I feel like I'm defined by my job and I
want to be a bigger person or a more whole
person than that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's cool, that's admirable.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But to say before you've even started out and gotten
your first job out of college, I will not be
defined by my professional success, that's just you sounding like
a jackass.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
In fifty two years, I've never said the words I
will not be defined by my filling the whatever it is?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Right? Why why would you have to say that out loud?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, I think a lot of people feel defined by
whatever they spend the most time on, whether it's being
a mother or a father or you know, a dog owner,
lever dog baby mom. I don't know, you know, defined
by whatever it is your job. You know, sometimes you
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will want to put you in a box, label you
as you know.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I guess I just did.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But I think if you're defined by your professional success,
you've done really well in life, that's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And then that's the thing is you have the ability
to take that and pivot somewhere else in your life.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That allows you a certain amount of freedom.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But yeah, I mean, you've got to be defined by
your professional success when you're twenty seven, Brendan, because you've
got to you've got to pay those bills, You've got it.
That's got to be a one track mind. Nowadays, it's
starting a little bit later. I would say you'd be
you'd want to be defined by that earlier, maybe twenty two,
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twenty three, and just push. You're you're in a push
pattern of life of I'm pushing, pushing, pushing to to
do well professionally so then I can have that marriage
and those kids and all those things and have money
to do those things.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Think about think about it in the context of acting.
If you're David Shwimmer, do you want to be defined
by the success of the TV show Friends, yeacause you've
done You've done some stuff since then, But but it
doesn't rise to that level. Or if you're Bob Denver,
do you forever want to be known as Gilligan when
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they cash have been the handle show?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
What the hell was that? I didn't even know who
that was.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I was just trying to think of somebody who was
completely identifiable as one character and never really got away
from that one character.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, well, that could be annoying, I would assume, especially
for an actor who fancies themselves a you know, somebody
who could do all the roles on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, but I mean especially for somebody like David Swimmer.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The checks are okay, right, but that would be frustrating
to be forever known as whatever was that ross?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I think so yes it was. I've become a frustrating
and then you'd get another check in the mail and you'd.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Be like, Okay, I'll deal with my frustration for a
couple more weeks. You think he gets it in the
mail or it's just so automatic, just deposit, I'd say it.
I have no idea, Sherry Peppini.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I've never been one of those people who just gets
checks in the mount, just random checks. Yeah, here's four
dollars and twenty three cents for that thing you did
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
This was the real life gone girl from up in
northern California. She still says this was entirely real.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
There's been a.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Number of documentaries about Sherry Pepini. This one kind of
tells her side of the story.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
What the hell is that you're listening to Gary and
Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Cherry Peppini Caught in the Lie. It's on Investigation Discovery.
You can stream it on HBO Max right now as well.
And Sherry Peppini, if you remember, was the woman back
in twenty sixteen who disappeared while on a jog up
in Redding and then showed up on Thanksgiving Day about
three weeks later, also in northern California in the Woodland
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Davis area, sort of there, and she had like a
chain around her waist, and she had bruising and a
brand on her And if you remember, she described to
the FBI that she had been kidnapped by two Hispanic
women and in fact told a sketch artist basically the
description of her ex boyfriend's mother. Now there's weird twists
(20:17):
here because the FBI says she made the whole thing
up on her own, and that she was with that
ex boyfriend for the three weeks that they were gone,
that she was gone. She now has a very twisted
story that kind of combines both of them together. She
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says that she was afraid of her husband at the time,
her husband Keith, because he was claiming or threatening to
take everything away from him from her, including the kids
that they had, and that that sort of emotional abuse
that she says she suffered drove her to have what
she referred to as an emotional affair with this ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, the ex boyfriend, James Reyes.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
She claimed she was in communication with him through burner phones,
but had no intention of traveling with him. Remember, she
thought she originally claimed I should say that two Hispanic
women kidnapped her because she thought somehow it would lead
police to Reyes, whose mom she thought was Hispanic.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, she claims that it was him, that John Reyes,
this ex boyfriend, was the one who kidnapped her, and
she was trying. She didn't want to be truthful right
away and say it was him because she didn't know
how he was going to react or if he was
going to take it out on her kids. Listen, the
FBI's investigated this thing fully. That guy's never been charged
with anything. Now, one of the things they said that
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tied him to the case at all, because remember she
was going with this story that she'd been kidnapped by
two women and held in an unknown place. They found
his DNA on her your parents, right, Oh, that immediately
led them to this guy, And he said, yeah, we
were having an affair for three weeks.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And my question to you is this.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
This is a new docuseries, Caught in a Lie, like
you said, I'm premiering on HBO Max. This is the
fourth documentary about Sherry Pepinie. Now you and I covered
her kidnapping and the eventual resolution, if you can call
it that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Sure, And by the time there.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Was a resolution, we were so tired of Sherry Peppini
from my recollection. We were like, we don't care what happened,
or we don't care about her story. We don't know
or care what led her to make this all up.
We're done with her, Like you've gotten our attention for
way too long. Already asked an answer, done, where's the
appetite for four documentaries?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I understand the appetite for.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
A documentary when it's something like the Menendez Brothers, where
it's got the wealth and the family struggles and abuse
and money and.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
All the things.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But like, what does this story have that's so captivating
other than this narcissistic woman who wants to hook up
with her ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I think that that narcissism which allows her to live
in this world where she's the victim in all of it.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I don't know if this ex boyfriend knocked her around.
I don't know where she got her bruises from. I
don't know if he branded her, if she did all
that to herself to make it look like it connect.
I have no idea but the idea that she is
convoluted enough that she can live in a world where
her truth is the only truth that existed. It's almost
a weird it's almost looking not even the whatever the
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details of the story are, don't matter. It's that she
is capable of convincing herself of this story right, and
that people want to see that in another person or
for entertainment purposes, which is weird. Yeah, cif the California
Interscholastic Federation has come out with a new policy when
it comes to boys in girls' sports, and it does
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absolutely nothing to fix the problem.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
We'll talk about that when we come back. You've been
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
There's a lot of bottom of the Hour, the new
dream job that's out there. You ever wanted to be
a stay at home kid in this case is stay
at home son. So I have.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
A nephew, My husband's sister's son is twenty just turned
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
He's a stay at home son.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
He goes and went to law school, went to college,
went to law school, has had jobs, works in a
legislative office in Hawaii, but lives at home and loves.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It well as a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
The whole bit like living this totally normal, successful life
living at home.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I would argue with the words normal and successful in
that context, right, but I mean in terms of checking
off the boxes, you know, advancement through life and jobs
in school and all of that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But yeah, lives at home, and why would he she
has a house in Hawaii. You know, it takes out
all that awkward living situations that we all went through
in our twenties of figuring out how to pay the
rent and eating like a trash rat, and you know, laundry.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Where are you going to do your lot?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
All the things, all those awful things, just skip.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Right over them.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Also at ten o'clock, we're going to get into the
story because it continues. President Trump threatened to withhold federal
funding from the state if we allow biological boys to
compete against girls in high school sports. The California or
Scholastic Federation claims that they came up with a policy
over the weekend before Trump's truth social post. But we'll
(01:50):
talk about that new policy they have for this upcoming
state wide track meet that's coming up this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Elon Musk and Trump differ when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
That big, beautiful bill. Yeah, we knew this was We
knew they were going to break up at some point.
This appears to be sort of the first big step
in that direction.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
They're calling it a significant fracture in the partnership.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, not good. He made his.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Comments Elon did in an interview with CBS came out
last night. He said the legislation undermines the work of
his Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. Republicans recently pushed the
legislation through the House, debating it in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
When it comes to World War three.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Ye it appears that we are ratcheting even closer thanks
to the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Russia and
Ukraine have been trading hundreds of drones. It appears every
night back and forth. One of the issues that we
brought up yesterday was that some countries that have been
providing Ukraine with the longer range weapons gave them to
(02:54):
Ukraine in exchange for a limitation on how far they
could be used. Now it looks like we are taking
we being those countries taking those restrictions off.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Germany is one of those.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The Chancellor Frederick Meers met with Vladimir Zelensky, President of Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Angolomdi tailhos tutunk.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We will continue our military supports and even increase it
so that Ukraine can continue to defend itself against this
Russian aggression now and.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
In the future.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Disminister the eden Heud and our defense ministers are going
to sign a memorandum of understanding on the procurement of
long range weapons systems produced by Ukraine, so called long
range fires. There will be no range limits on these.
Ukraine will be able to fully defend itself, including against
military targets outside its own territory.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So where we last left the fight between Trump and Putin,
Trump being upset that he thought he was gaining ground
with these peace talks with the prisoner swap, all the
while Putin is attacking Ukraine major provocation over the weekend.
On Capitol Hill, all the people in the know say
that Trump has yet to make a decision on whether
(04:06):
to impose additional sanctions on Moscow, the way that you
talked about yesterday, Gary about how well, yeah, you're upset
with him, but that's pretty weak stream.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
What are you going to do about it?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's said that pro Ukraine allies on Capitol Hill treading
very carefully. They're trying to urge the White House to
consider following up on those threats with new sanctions. But
they are treading carefully because Trump is not really he's
not interested in that. And for my point yesterday of
(04:38):
he needs Russia for money, he needs Russia for funding,
he always has, the whole family goes to Russia for funding,
and that's just not a bridge. I don't think Trump
is willing to burn in terms of what happens when
he leaves the White House.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, and not that he responds to this kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But I mentioned yesterday also that Reportuplicans in the Senate,
well bipartisan senators have come together with what they propose
as the latest newest package of sanctions against Russia that
already without a vote, has the support of some eighty
plus senators who have worked on it. Does that put
(05:17):
enough pressure on the White House to make him do anything?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hard to say.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We also know that Sergei Lavrov, a spokesperson for Vladimir Putin,
has said that Russia has proposed a next round of
talks with Ukraine to take place on the second of June,
so next week. Again, this is all from Russia side.
The Kremlin says that they have chosen Istanbul, Turkey to
be their choice of host. The Turkish city held the
(05:43):
last round of talks between the two delegations, but as
of yet, no Ukrainian official has given any sort of
official public response to this. Again, Russia says they want
to hold some talks coming up on June second.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
We'll see if it actually takes place.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
A former police chief who is known as the Devil
in the Ozarks has escaped prison in Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
His name is Grant harden. He is on the loose.
He is good for murder and rape. Will tell you
what we know about his breakout.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I heard this story about the breakout of the inmates
in New Orleans, and one of the things they wanted
the public to know is that the two remaining people
that broke out of that jail and have not been
caught are street smart. And I thought to myself, you think, yeah,
do you think? And isn't that one of the things
(06:40):
that like is a badge that you have when you
enter prison.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I'm gonna say you've you don't go to prison if
you're not street smart.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
California's second largest reservoir reached full capacity for the third
year in a row. It's the first time it's hit
a record in this fifty seven year history that it's existed.
Lake Oroville is ninety nine percent full, which is good. Oh,
I have great news. At least in your world you
would consider it great news.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Ready, it's about the secret lives and Mormon wives.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, it's about not one, not two birds, but three
asteroids that could collide with the Earth.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh, hell, yes anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
These are apparently right now behind Venus, so they're not
exactly visible to the naked eye. But an international research
team led by Salpola University down in Brazil says at
least three of the asteroids currently in this study shows
that twenty twenty SB five two four five two two
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and twenty twenty c L one three specifically identified asteroids
circle the Sun in tandem with Venus and have some
unstable orbits that could bring them dangerously close to the Earth.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I love that. Yeah, course they're unstable around Venus.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yankeles at Yankeles. Yankees beat the Angels three to two
last night. They'll play again this evening, and then Dodgers
beat the Guardians again. They'll go for a sweep. I
believe it is in just a few minutes, actually about
a half an hour from now. They play in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
This shouldn't surprise you, but nonetheless it should madden you.
The bunch of La City leaders, including the mayor Karen Bassiben,
yanked into court to answer for their complete ineptitude when
it comes to using the money we've approved them to
use for homelessness and the issues. And they have hired
the most arguably the most prestigious law firm in the
(08:40):
country to defend them against their ineptitude. I'm sure it's
pretty cheap, right, No, no, no, And when a government
entity like this agency hires a law firm, that law
firm knows it's not their money they're playing around.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
With, so they over bill for everything.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
They do, all the things, all the un necessary things
that they probably wouldn't do if they had a client
that was cash strapped, which they have none of those
at this level of firm. But the taxpayers are being
taken for a massive ride with this one as well,
so we'll talk about that again.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Not surprising, as surprising, but maddening nonetheless.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Devil in the Ozarks was the title of an HBO documentary,
and the subject of the documentary was a former police
chief who ended up being good for a murder and
a rape, a retroactive rape, I guess I should call it,
because once he was found guilty of the murder, they
throw his DNA in the system. It turns out that
that was the DNA found on a rape victim ten
(09:40):
years prior or twenty years prior. This reminds me of
a Stephen King book do you remember the Stephen King
book if you're a Stephen King fan desperation about the
police chief who was the law of the land and
was just a really bad apple. This sounds like this
was this guy. He was a police chief of a
(10:03):
small town in Arkansas and kind of ran it like
that police chief in the Stephen King book did just
a reign of terror as long as he was behind
that badge.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This Rex w Is where did his name go, Rex Latrelle.
That's a guy.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No, Grant Harden's okay, So Grant Harden? Is this this
former police chief? And you mentioned that the murder and
the rape. The murder was a guy that apparently he
had worked with a water department employee, and while working
as the police chief for this tiny little town in
(10:43):
the Ozarks, he ran a foul of a lot of
the other city employees thought that he was a too
hot headed and b was kind of misusing the small
police department. So this guy was upset that the police
chief got a car fixed, one of the police cars
fixed in a bad way, and he ended up shooting
(11:04):
James Appleton in the head in the middle of town.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Everybody, not everybody. A couple witnesses apparently saw him do it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They were able to pin it on him pretty quick,
and as you mentioned, that led later to a conviction
on rape after they threw his DNA into Cotis. This
guy has been in a medium security prison. That's the
part that blows me away, medium security prison known as
Calico Rock or in Calico Rock, and he was able
(11:32):
to escape just a few days after that New Orleans escape.
They said what he did was he impersonated a corrections
officer in dress and manner.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
There's a picture that we have here.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
This is an image of him leaving the prison wearing
what looks like maybe a black T shirt, black baseball cap,
and it's pixelated so you can't see what the word
is on his back, but it probably he says something
like police or security or something.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It was not a standard correctional uniform, but yeah, clearly,
I mean, and this guy fits apart, white, stocky, bald.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
He looks like a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Law enforcement officer, now that that's what all law enforcement
officers look like, but he knows how to play the game.
He was police chief of a small town of Gateway,
and when I say small, about four hundred and fifty
people live in Gateway. He became chief in twenty sixteen,
and they say, virtually overnight there was a dramatic shift
(12:32):
in that community. That he was out chasing cars for
no reason. He was pulling guns on citizens there in Gateway,
and they said as time went on with him being
police chief, things started going downhill even more so, very fast.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
The current mayor of Gateway is the murder victim's sister.
And you can imagine that the people that this guy
ran a foul of, they're afraid of him and they
want to know what's being done to catch him. Now
you've got us Marshall Service, you've got a law enforcement
in that area, and they said that they've done in
(13:10):
helicopter canine searches of all the areas they think that
he was familiar with. The thing is, the longer this
search goes, the wider that search area has to be
based on the potential for this guy to move around.
So not a good scene for those people who are
afraid of this guy.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
A new dream job for young men, stay at home son.
We'll tell you about it, and it's featured on the
Wall Street Journal today and it seems to be pretty prevalent.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We have all talked about guys who live at home,
basement dwellers, mama's boys, whatever term you want to use,
they may prefer the term stay at home son. There's
a guy who is competing on Jeopardy who actually is
been cleaning up won three days in a row to
the tune of almost sixty thousand dollars. His name is
(14:05):
Brendan Law, twenty seven years old. He's got a master's
degree in poly psi and he doesn't have a job.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's a recent graduate and yes, does not have a job.
He decided to go with this stay at home son
kind of moniker because he said, I wanted to make
people laugh. He says, even if even if I lost
my first game at Jeopardy, I wanted to make people laugh.
He said, it sounds better than unemployed. And it's tough
(14:33):
times right now, so let's try and get some laughter
out there. They said, do you use your time at
home since you don't have a job, to put yourself
through some sort of trivia boot camp before the show.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I love his answer about this.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He goes, it was about a month of something like
a Rocky montage with Iya the Tiger. He says, I
practiced with a buzzer, watching five episodes a day in
a suit, standing in my living room.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I was doing cardio every.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Day, getting on the stationary bike and watching an episod
sort of Jeopardy to get my heart rate up. They said,
to simulate the nerves of being on the show. And
he's like, yeah, that was my intention. But no matter
how much you prepare walking onto the stage and having
all the lights and cameras and Ken Jennings and an audience,
he says, there's no way to recreate.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That that label, that stay at home sun label. According
to this Wall Street journal writer taps into this trend
of rejecting hustle culture.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
When did we stop? When was that a thing?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, it's like saying the interviewer says, it's like you're
saying I am not defined by professional success and I
don't care what anyone thinks about that. And he said,
I think that's more typical of my age cohort. My
career doesn't really define me, and it should just be
a thing where I'm okay with what I do to
and make enough to pay the bills. Well Son, you're
(15:51):
not making enough because you live at home.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I mean, I stave grand will go a long way
to paying some bills. But it's not what a.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Luxury to say I am not defined by my professional
success before you've had any, before you've had any I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Mean, seriously, think about that.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, it's one thing to get achieve something and be like, oh,
I feel like I'm defined by my job and I
want to be a bigger person or a more whole
person than that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's cool, that's admirable.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But to say before you've even started out and gotten
your first job out of college, I will not be
defined by my professional success, that's just you sounding like
a jackass.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
In fifty two years, I've never said the words I
will not be defined by my filling the whatever it is?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Right? Why why would you have to say that out loud?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, I think a lot of people feel defined by
whatever they spend the most time on, whether it's being
a mother or a father or you know, a dog owner,
lever dog baby mom. I don't know, you know, defined
by whatever it is your job. You know, sometimes you
(16:58):
will want to put you in a box, label you
as you know.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I guess I just did.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
But I think if you're defined by your professional success,
you've done really well in life, that's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And then that's the thing is you have the ability
to take that and pivot somewhere else in your life.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That allows you a certain amount of freedom.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But yeah, I mean, you've got to be defined by
your professional success when you're twenty seven, Brendan, because you've
got to you've got to pay those bills, You've got it.
That's got to be a one track mind. Nowadays, it's
starting a little bit later. I would say you'd be
you'd want to be defined by that earlier, maybe twenty two,
(17:39):
twenty three, and just push. You're you're in a push
pattern of life of I'm pushing, pushing, pushing to to
do well professionally so then I can have that marriage
and those kids and all those things and have money
to do those things.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Think about think about it in the context of acting.
If you're David Shwimmer, do you want to be defined
by the success of the TV show Friends, yeacause you've
done You've done some stuff since then, But but it
doesn't rise to that level. Or if you're Bob Denver,
do you forever want to be known as Gilligan when
(18:12):
they cash have been the handle show?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
What the hell was that? I didn't even know who
that was.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I was just trying to think of somebody who was
completely identifiable as one character and never really got away
from that one character.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, well, that could be annoying, I would assume, especially
for an actor who fancies themselves a you know, somebody
who could do all the roles on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, but I mean especially for somebody like David Swimmer.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The checks are okay, right, but that would be frustrating
to be forever known as whatever was that ross?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I think so yes it was. I've become a frustrating
and then you'd get another check in the mail and you'd.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Be like, Okay, I'll deal with my frustration for a
couple more weeks. You think he gets it in the
mail or it's just so automatic, just deposit, I'd say it.
I have no idea, Sherry Peppini.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I've never been one of those people who just gets
checks in the mount, just random checks. Yeah, here's four
dollars and twenty three cents for that thing you did
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
This was the real life gone girl from up in
northern California. She still says this was entirely real.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
There's been a.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Number of documentaries about Sherry Pepini. This one kind of
tells her side of the story.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
What the hell is that you're listening to Gary and
Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Cherry Peppini Caught in the Lie. It's on Investigation Discovery.
You can stream it on HBO Max right now as well.
And Sherry Peppini, if you remember, was the woman back
in twenty sixteen who disappeared while on a jog up
in Redding and then showed up on Thanksgiving Day about
three weeks later, also in northern California in the Woodland
(19:53):
Davis area, sort of there, and she had like a
chain around her waist, and she had bruising and a
brand on her And if you remember, she described to
the FBI that she had been kidnapped by two Hispanic
women and in fact told a sketch artist basically the
description of her ex boyfriend's mother. Now there's weird twists
(20:17):
here because the FBI says she made the whole thing
up on her own, and that she was with that
ex boyfriend for the three weeks that they were gone,
that she was gone. She now has a very twisted
story that kind of combines both of them together. She
(20:38):
says that she was afraid of her husband at the time,
her husband Keith, because he was claiming or threatening to
take everything away from him from her, including the kids
that they had, and that that sort of emotional abuse
that she says she suffered drove her to have what
she referred to as an emotional affair with this ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, the ex boyfriend, James Reyes.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
She claimed she was in communication with him through burner phones,
but had no intention of traveling with him. Remember, she
thought she originally claimed I should say that two Hispanic
women kidnapped her because she thought somehow it would lead
police to Reyes, whose mom she thought was Hispanic.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, she claims that it was him, that John Reyes,
this ex boyfriend, was the one who kidnapped her, and
she was trying. She didn't want to be truthful right
away and say it was him because she didn't know
how he was going to react or if he was
going to take it out on her kids. Listen, the
FBI's investigated this thing fully. That guy's never been charged
with anything. Now, one of the things they said that
(21:45):
tied him to the case at all, because remember she
was going with this story that she'd been kidnapped by
two women and held in an unknown place. They found
his DNA on her your parents, right, Oh, that immediately
led them to this guy, And he said, yeah, we
were having an affair for three weeks.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And my question to you is this.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
This is a new docuseries, Caught in a Lie, like
you said, I'm premiering on HBO Max. This is the
fourth documentary about Sherry Pepinie. Now you and I covered
her kidnapping and the eventual resolution, if you can call
it that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Sure, And by the time there.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Was a resolution, we were so tired of Sherry Peppini
from my recollection. We were like, we don't care what happened,
or we don't care about her story. We don't know
or care what led her to make this all up.
We're done with her, Like you've gotten our attention for
way too long. Already asked an answer, done, where's the
appetite for four documentaries?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I understand the appetite for.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
A documentary when it's something like the Menendez Brothers, where
it's got the wealth and the family struggles and abuse
and money and.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
All the things.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But like, what does this story have that's so captivating
other than this narcissistic woman who wants to hook up
with her ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I think that that narcissism which allows her to live
in this world where she's the victim in all of it.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I don't know if this ex boyfriend knocked her around.
I don't know where she got her bruises from. I
don't know if he branded her, if she did all
that to herself to make it look like it connect.
I have no idea but the idea that she is
convoluted enough that she can live in a world where
her truth is the only truth that existed. It's almost
a weird it's almost looking not even the whatever the
(23:38):
details of the story are, don't matter. It's that she
is capable of convincing herself of this story right, and
that people want to see that in another person or
for entertainment purposes, which is weird. Yeah, cif the California
Interscholastic Federation has come out with a new policy when
it comes to boys in girls' sports, and it does
(24:01):
absolutely nothing to fix the problem.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
We'll talk about that when we come back. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
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