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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
But today today, I mean you can hear the show live,
but we're not actually, I mean we're at home.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm at my home. Where are you? I am in
my home right now.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm getting ready probably to fly up to my brother's
house to do Christmas afternoon evening with them. Oh nice, yeah,
but I'm at home right now. I'm probably in you know,
my Christmas pajamas.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Do you honestly have Christmas pajamas?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Or do you just have pajamas? And you're like, hey,
it's Christmas, so technically these are my Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Christmas probably in sweatpants, yeah, and a T shirt strong choice,
sports bro.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You gotta be comfy, you gotta be coming.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And because all the r movies that you're going to
do with unwrapping your presence, right, So it's just the two,
it's just you and your husband. A lot of gifts,
like a god ungodly number of gifts or is it
like you keep it, you keepane.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We keep it sane, but sometimes it feels insane even
though it's sane. Yeah, you know, like we should really
just get each other like a couple things.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
He was like, what do you really need anymore? That
is a problem. That's the problem with Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think a lot of people if you're employed and listen,
I know not everybody can can have that same feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
But if you if you overdo it at Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And I don't just mean like you get that credit
card bill in January and you realize you've overdone it.
But there's times when you go, you know what, that's
it's not really why we're supposed to be doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, Like a week ago or two weeks ago, we
had a lot of Amazon packages delivered, right, and my
husband says, I'm starting to feel uncomfortable. There's a lot
of packages delivered. I've a really got you anything. And
I said, it's okay. None of this is for you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know, it's for my nephews, or.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's for my mom or he said, he goes, Christmas
is supposed to be fun, and now I'm feeling pressure
because I didn't really get you anything.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And I said, it's not for you. It hard.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I was actually talking with a friend of mine happens
to be a pastor at a church about the holidays,
because I mean, I've always thought if you're a pastor
at church, Christmas is your super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Or or Christmas is like Opening Day and Easter is
your SuperM.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You're preparing that sermon, is it a sermon in Christian
You're preparing that sermon for months.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
For months, or you have one that you go to
and you know that there's going to be some newcomers,
right that are only there on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You got to get that audience. You got to capture
the audience.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You got to go with the good old you know,
the some high hard ones, tried and true. Jesus wept
simple Oh wait, maybe not on Christmas because Jesus was
just born.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well Jesus did. He probably wailed, yeah, but that's not
in the Bible. Muling and puking. The Bible does not
have that part as well.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Jesus in the Bible, if I'm not mistaken, was a
pretty cool baby, like Jesus held it together as a baby.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, I don't think you.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Never heard about Jesus with colic. You never heard you
never heard about it. You never heard about Jesus with
a you know, blown out diaper, a blown out diaper.
You never heard about Jesus urinating into his mother's mouth
when he was getting changed, like it can happen with boys.
You've never heard about Jesus spitting up off, but again
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have to.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Spit up rag.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's not to say that he didn't do that. Matthew, Mark,
Luke and John didn't think that was necessarity.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, it's also the males. They weren't taking care of
the baby.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh you think they didn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, that's why there should be more female authors writing
in the books, because I bet they knew about Jesus
and what he was up to as a baby.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But my friend was telling me that also in that job.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, basically it is. It is your opening day.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
This is a big, high profile day if you're the
pastor at a church. But that that for so many people,
it's very, very very hard. It's a very difficult time
because for some, I mean, we've gone through this before.
It's the first Christmas without Mom, It's the first Christmas
without Dad, it's the first Christmas without Grandma. It's the
first Christmas without your pet. Whatever I mean, whatever sorrow
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or struggle or pain that you've gone through, through a
course of a year. It seems to be accentuated by
the holidays, just because that's when family gets together and
family gathers, and that's that's a that can be a
very hard.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Time for you realize who's missing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, you notice more prec My dad died a couple
of years ago. And the beauty of it is it's
my dad hated Christmas, really, all this bullless and I
your mother wants to do this, and we don't need
a tree, and oh I ate that nutcracker, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I mean, he was.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Really cynical when it came to I don't think he
actually was. I think deep down he really liked it.
But that was kind of the stuff that he would say.
So it kind of makes me chick that he doesn't
have to sit through another Christmas.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Was he the Grinch?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, because the Grinch wasn't into all the pomp and
circumstance that grew three sizes that day.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah. No, dads did not did not.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's funny, you know, but my dad was always My
dad was non plussed by it. I never saw again.
I get this from him, very little movement on the needle.
When you did he really enjoy it or did he
hate it? You could never really tell. But he was
always the one that would do all of the things.
He would always be the one that got the Christmas tree.
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He would always be the one that decorated and put
the lights on. He's always the one that put the
lights on the house. And he liked it, and he
never he never complained. He never was like, guys, it's Christmas.
Well that's his way of doing that. Yeah, as all
that stuff, that's cool. What about you do you like Christmas?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It comes with pressure. I don't like that part of
it because there's also an aspect of and again this
is I know my place of privilege here that I
have a job that I can take a break from.
But on those days when I take time off or
something like that, almost feel like I'm forcing myself into relaxation.
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And that's a weird thing to be complaining about. Like,
but but.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
What he's to do well with?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like, you're sitting on the couch, You've already looked at
the news, You've had your cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now what I have a question for you? Though, on
the other side, I'd love to ask you.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Gary and Shannon will continue very special, a very special
Christmas edition.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It wouldn't be Christmas.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We wouldn't express ourselves with each other if I didn't say.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Something, if you didn't call me a hoe? Oh was that?
I today? The year?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The actual year and day of our Lord, the year
of well like the year of our Lord, but actually.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
The day thousand years later. It was actually probably in
the springtime.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know, did he not show love for Mary Magdalen? Yes, yes, Sorry,
we don't need to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Go on.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's one of those Catholic things we didn't really delve
into too much in my church.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But we spent a large portion of our childhood on
the hook or Jesus piled around with Enjoy your.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yule log video or whatever you're watching on the TV today.
There's a couple of football games coming up too, right, Yeah,
so that'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's on Netflix if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, So we were talking about sort of how we
approach the holidays, how we approach Christmas, and I said that,
you know, my dad was never he enjoyed it, and
he would obviously do the things that he would traditionally
do in terms of set up and tear down and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But I never really got one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And you kind of pulled the curtain back a little
bit and said, if he was doing those things he
liked it, he did, and I'm sure he did. We
used to have Christmases with the extended family. It was
very rare that it was just my mom and dad
and two sisters, and I are family of five. We
always had cousins, grandparents multiple Christmases over the course of
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two or three days, depending on how it went. And
that also brought with it when I was a kid,
that brought with it the happiest times, the joy. You'd
stay up late at night playing with your new toys
and your cousins and we would all be jealous that
they got something that I didn't get, or she got
something that they didn't get, or whatever. And as you
(08:30):
get older, it came with sort of for me, it
came with that uncomfortability like I'm eighteen, nineteen twenty years old,
I'm are the cousin. We're not as close with the
cousins as we used to be. Grandma's gone, like all
that became sort of the weird aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But what was it like for you as a kid,
Did you do that or was it just the four
of you?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It would be the four of us on Christmas Eve,
which I always loved, and then the next day usually
it would be us going to my grandparents, my my
dad's parents, my mom's family, her mom her family lived
down here in southern California. So most of the time
we would spend it, I mean every Christmas we spent
it with with my grandma and my my nana and
(09:16):
Pa in San Francisco, and my aunt and uncle, my
dad's brother and his wife, and my cousin Katie, and
we would all go to the grandparents' house and do
Christmas dinner there, or Christmas Dinner at my aunt and
uncle's house in South San Francisco, or at our house
and you know, in Nevado. And so it's just basically,
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you know, my family, the four of us and then
uh my my one cousin on that side of the
family and grandparents.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was a good group.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
There always came stories of of you know, generations past,
which I always liked, such an s talk and family too,
you know, about how you know Grandma threw the turkey
down the stairs one year. You know, always antics, always,
always so much. I remember so much tension, always so
(10:08):
much tension over my mom making sure the house was perfect,
the house was clean, the table was set up perfect.
The stressing over very little things like our dirvs, and
my dad being mad that my mom was stressed.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And so makes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Her more stressed and just tense. I remember it being
very tense. There were many tense years, and the same thing.
You would read them if you were a kid that
could feel all that like I was. You know, certain
people pick up on other people's emotions. I can feel
all that, and I feel it no matter whose house
it was, whether my aunt and uncle's house, you could
feel their tension over everyone coming into their house and
(10:45):
it was a smaller house and would everybody fit, and
then my grandparents' house and the whole bit. Everyone gets
so tense over it. I think that's why I never
have hosted Christmas ever. It's funny I've never I think
we did one Thanksgiving years ago. I just have these
memories of pension where it does not need to exist.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I and you just mentioned, or you said earlier that
you and your husband are going to spend the Christmas morning.
This is your morning together, and then you'll go up north.
When our kids started getting older, it became super important
at us to us that it was just the four
of us at some point, whatever time it was, whether
it's Christmas Eve or Christmas whatever, what, there had to
(11:29):
be time where it was just the four of love
that and it was it was important. I mean I
didn't grow up that way, like I said I had.
We always had everybody, and my parents were they also.
My parents were also not sticklers when it came to
the number of bodies compared to the number of beds.
There were always more bodies than there were beds. So
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there were kids sleeping on floors. Every pullout couch or
cushion had a body on it at some point. And
that's never been had never been super comfortable for me.
My family is known for that. There are may be
nine people in a two bedroom house. I will find it.
We'll find a place. I mean, it's just sleep. It's
not like that floor is not going.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
To be that hard all night. Don't worry about it. Yeah,
that's always the way it was.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So when our kids started getting older, and they're five, six, seven,
eight years old, and that's still that kind of magical
time in the morning that was super important that we
had just that time for the four of us. Yeah,
and now they're older, I mean they're they bring with
them their own problems or issues or happiness or joy
whatever it is. So it's it's different. And because my
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sisters and I now all of our kids, all of
our kids, yeah, all of our kids are adult children
now some of that magic has kind of worn away
and we replace it with mimosas, Oh.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I gotta say, uh, not drinking this year, my
first holiday season not drinking is wild. Like Thanksgiving, I
thought like I would never be able to do holidays
not drinking, and it made it so much easier. It's
so much more chill in my head, in your head,
in my head. I'm not like, you know, talking as
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to people in my head. It's not affecting me. It's
I'm not no one's going to rise out of me.
I'm not stressed out, I'm not expecting. There's no expectations.
It's just like a chill vibe and I'm like, wow,
how did I do so many holidays so blitzed for
so long, like it's so much, it's so much easier. Well,
(13:34):
at this point, talk to me after I might it
may be.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
It may change when we come back on the fifth.
It's going to be a mess if I come back.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
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Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, we also celebrate Christmas, so we're going to be
done today. I know we're supposed to talk of about travel.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh okay, but I found this story that Richie left
for us about quintuplets to celebrate Christmas at home after
leaving the nick You for one Texas mom, ABC News
writes this holiday season is extra special, to which I say,
is it?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Teresa is her nabe? Oh, she's talk about pressure.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Teresa is thirty six and she is a mother. Teresa,
she will celebrate Christmas with all five of her quintuplets.
She gave birth to them in June. The last quintuplet
to be discharged from the neonatal intensive care unit came
home in November. As you can imagine, carrying five babies
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comes with a lot of challenges and complications. She is
a first time mom and she got pregnant with quintuplets.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That can't be the natural, right, I mean, it can't.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Be easy, no matter if you're like a second time
mom or a third time mom at a fourteenth time mom.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
No no, no no.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Their names Kyla, Joseph, Jackson, Viviana, and Isabella all twenty
eight weeks and one day was when they came out,
and like you said, Viviana was the last two have
been discharged from the neonatal ICU and they go home
to El Paso, Texas.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There's only about one hundred and forty eight quintuplet or
quads or higher a year in this country. When does
it become fun to have five babies that are the
same age at all times of life?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah? Like when do you went?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
There's a point when they're two where they're all five
going different directions.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You can't catch any of them.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
There's a point when they're seven and they're all annoying
and sick or they won't eat their peas or whatever,
and that's awful. Then they are all going to hit
puberty at the same time. I mean, probably the girls
before the boys. That's what nature does. But is there
a time is it when they graduate from high school together.
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Is that when it turns the corner.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Here's the unique thing about Teresa. She is a quad herself.
That's not true. Wait a minute, so these may have
been natural yes?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So she knows when the fun begins or the lack thereof.
She is a quad truplet herself. She has three brothers, Joseph,
Matthew and Thomas.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah. Also, during her pregnancy, she and her care team
because he needed a team of people around you. When
you got five babies cooking.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You might as well just have five doctors or five midwives,
or five nurses or five everything.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Five everything.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They learned that two of her quintuplets, Isabella and Viviana.
I love that name, Viviana, were identical mono pro ionic
choreonic diam naotica yeah or modi twins, meaning they shared
a placenta but were in separate amniotic sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
What does that mean? Doctor? Do you know what placenta is? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I'm trying to make sure that I get the layer right.
The placenta is the sack that don't do that with
your hands. The placenta is the sack that they're in.
Noat sack.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think a sack is inside the placenta. Sure, so
there's two layers.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So if you had a basketball, that's your placenta, and
you had two grapefruits on the inside of that, that
would be the two amniotic sacks.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But they're in the same sack, right, No, they're in
the same placenta. You got five basketballs no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
No, no, well, yes, she had five separate No, she had
four separate placentas, but five different amniotic sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's a lot of stuff to put in there. That's
a lot of stuff to come out. What do you
do with all that stuff?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You save it for? What make gifts out of its?
Christmas time?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Planted under the apple tree out in the backyard.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It sometimes sometimes smoothie. I've heard that it's pretty gross. Yeah,
it is pretty gross. Would you eat a placenta smoothie?
If I found one for you, it's got a bunch
of my own child, then no, Would you eat your
wife's placenta in a smoothie? If? Yeah, I think I would.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's really sweet. I mean, you know, you woul't even
eat macha in this. I have tried macha. We've already
discussed this.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know, Okay, I tried it. It's just I'm not
going to do it over how many time. I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna ask for placenta every Thursday night. Hey, honey,
instead of that beef borgon that I love so much,
why not crank out some placenta stew.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's not like the lasagnia that's made every fall. You know,
Oh that's great anyway, that sounds like a lot. I mean,
if you think you have a chaotic Christmas going on,
at least there's not five babies under that.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Tree, five six month old. They all want, you know, breasts,
and that's another thing. You got to milk those things.
What do you mean those How do you do that?
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
How do you do that? You got to get in help.
You got to do bottles. You gotta formula.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Probably do you say bottle service, like popping bottles?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah? Service, you know, like you've got to do formula.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I would imagine, yeah, because I don't think you'd have
enough to Maybe.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You get a little breast milk and then you like
spread it out over the sick.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You get a tablespoon, and you get a tablespoon and
you put it in the bottle and you put the
formula and then you shake it up like you're mixing drinks.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, maybe it is bottles.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
What if it's like a bottle of like tubes connecting
out of it, so it's like an octopus tube bottle situation.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
So one tick can like distribute five.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Ways, Yeah, like a like a like at a cattle range.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Don't they do that with the tubes with a cow
oh on the otters? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, that's kind of what they become at that point.
I know, that's awful. That's an awful thing.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I saw my girlfriend. I hope they have a.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Doing the whole milking thing with the whole like the
breast pump, the breast pump. Yeah, And I was, I mean,
I was like no, ma'am, Like I.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Could not do that. Built a little bovine Yeah yeah,
And I was like absolutely not. The hurt too.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And I wasn't even like twenty three. I was like
forty three when I saw that happen. And I was like, Nope,
not forty three yet. Oh that's it.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's the end. Shannon.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So forty six percent of your gen Z employees are
ready to quit their jobs. Apparently majority of managers, according
to Forbes, are trying everything.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I okay, we do these studies when we would compare generations, right,
the gen X, the gen Z, the millennials, etc. How
their attitudes have changed over the sorry, how their attitudes
are different about things like work and bills and all
that sort of stuff. My question is, is this a
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product of an actual delineation between those generations or are
we taking surveys of people that we've never taken surveys
of before.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think you hit on some poignant questions there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They say, you can spend millions on new products or
motivational gurus or company retreats, but that's not going to help.
They say, gen Z is not leaving your company or
job hopping because they're bored or lacking for entertainment. It's
not because they want quiddage tournaments. I say that, right, yep,
or a coffee bar or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
They say.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They're looking for the nearest exit because becuse, this is
a generation that is trying not to spit out your food. Exhausted,
Oh boy, they're exhausted. The main reason the lack of
growth opportunities. Around one third of those surveyed felt stalled
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in their careers, thirty four percent of millennials, thirty two
percent of gen Z, twenty eight percent of gen X.
They say that there is an overwhelming majority of them
said that there is a lack of employer support for
further education or training. So they're not seeing a path forward,
a future, maybe a way of increasing their earning power
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down the line, and frankly, that would do it for me.
That's why people That's why I left my job at
the Delhi or people leave their job at McDonald's. You know,
that's what those jobs are for the ones where there's
really no pathway unless you're going to be like a
manager or you know, core go into.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
The corporate route or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like if they're if the road ends, if you can
see the end of the road and you're earning what
you're going to earn in that position, you probably leave
that job.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That's the way I was.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's the way I think human nature goes in those years,
in those twenties and thirties years. If you don't see
a path to earning more, why.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Would you stay at a place.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I also think that there's a mentality that is different
than it would have been before. A lot of people
are probably younger people are looking for the job to
be the fulfilling, to check a lot more boxes than
just provide a paycheck. And it's probably not the i'll
(23:46):
use it today. What do they want? Well, I'll use
my Grandpa Dickerson as an example.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I love it when Dickerson and Dixie make their way
into the program.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So he's he's digging the California Aqueduct by himself.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Maybe not himself, but that's the way he told the stories.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He wasn't going to work looking for it to be
a fulfilling, you know, mentally stimulating thing. It was a
way for him to provide for his family and any
sort of outside mental stimulation he loved to read, for example,
Louis Lamore books. That's that kind of stuff he got
outside of work, that he got that enjoyment away from
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the thing he did to provide for his family. And
I wonder if people nowadays look more. They want their
job to be more holistic. They want their employer to
help take care of them in certain instances. Now employers,
I think do that to a large degree with the
benefits that they can offer, depending on what company it is,
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how far you know, do they have a gym on
the site, are they going to pay your monthly membership?
How much do they cover do they contribute to your
four oh one k? All those things they can do.
And I think people have come to expect that much
from their place of work, as opposed to saying I
come here, I work, I go home, I play.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean, but what if there was no path,
you know, to making more money? I mean, isn't that
I mean, I guess if you use Dickerson here, you
know he's gonna make X amount of dollars and he's
gonna make X amount of dollars for the rest of
his life.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And he knows that.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And that's okay, And there's always going to be dudes
like that or women like that. But for people who
want to keep going up the ladder, keep making more
and more and achieving and achieving, then why would they
stay in that job?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, then why did they take the job in the
first place, because it's a stepping stone.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Why did you take the job in Sacramento that wasn't
on air?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know, we all take those stepping stone jobs. We
don't think we're going to stay in them. So why
That's why I asked a question. They say forty six
percent of gen Z plan to quit. How to stop them?
Where I'm saying, why stop them? Let them continue on
their path, on their journey wherever they want to go them?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Why the next step? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Why hold someone back that doesn't want to be there
or wants to have greater earning power? That's what Isn't
that what life's all about. I've been figuring all of
that out.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And that goes back to my original question, which is
did people have this same attitude in nineteen ninety. It's
just nobody thought to, you know, delve into the feelings
of a twenty six year old semi professional about what
they're what their next step is going to be.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think nineteen ninety was probably the beginning of asking
that age group how they felt about things.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You know, when you think about like the real.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
World generation, right, like the first real world And it
was like a bunch of twenty somethings. And I remember
there even though I was very very young, too young
to even remember this, but.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Thinking like, well, what do they think?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I remember there being a conversation of, well, who
gives a crap what's going on with young twenty somethings
and them all living together?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Who cares what they think? They're twenty something? You know?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And I think that ever since that, I mean, that
may have been the beginning of actually caring what somebody
had to think when they were a young person, and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Then putting too much of an emphasis on, you know,
catering to those feelings right, as opposed to a letting
the feelings adjust to the situation that they're.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Everyone's feelings are out of control at twenty something.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
None of those feelings should be paid attention to.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You should just keep ignoring them well into our fifties
if you don't mind. Well, there it is another portion
of the show that apparently Ritchie and Elmer and Matt
and all the producers and everybody in the background, they
all thought that that was some of the best of
I guess getting up with this. Well, wow, exactly. Gary
and Shannon will continue. You've been listening to the Gary
and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on
(27:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
But today today, I mean you can hear the show live,
but we're not actually, I mean we're at home.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm at my home. Where are you? I am in
my home right now.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm getting ready probably to fly up to my brother's
house to do Christmas afternoon evening with them. Oh nice, yeah,
but I'm at home right now. I'm probably in you know,
my Christmas pajamas.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Do you honestly have Christmas pajamas?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Or do you just have pajamas? And you're like, hey,
it's Christmas, so technically these are my Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Christmas probably in sweatpants, yeah, and a T shirt strong choice,
sports bro.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You gotta be comfy, you gotta be coming.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And because all the r movies that you're going to
do with unwrapping your presence, right, So it's just the two,
it's just you and your husband. A lot of gifts,
like a god ungodly number of gifts or is it
like you keep it, you keepane.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We keep it sane, but sometimes it feels insane even
though it's sane. Yeah, you know, like we should really
just get each other like a couple things.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
He was like, what do you really need anymore? That
is a problem. That's the problem with Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I think a lot of people if you're employed and listen,
I know not everybody can can have that same feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
But if you if you overdo it at Christmas.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And I don't just mean like you get that credit
card bill in January and you realize you've overdone it.
But there's times when you go, you know what, that's
it's not really why we're supposed to be doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, Like a week ago or two weeks ago, we
had a lot of Amazon packages delivered, right, and my
husband says, I'm starting to feel uncomfortable. There's a lot
of packages delivered. I've a really got you anything. And
I said, it's okay. None of this is for you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know, it's for my nephews, or.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's for my mom or he said, he goes, Christmas
is supposed to be fun, and now I'm feeling pressure
because I didn't really get you anything.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
And I said, it's not for you. It hard.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I was actually talking with a friend of mine happens
to be a pastor at a church about the holidays,
because I mean, I've always thought if you're a pastor
at church, Christmas is your super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Or or Christmas is like Opening Day and Easter is
your SuperM.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You're preparing that sermon, is it a sermon in Christian
You're preparing that sermon for months.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
For months, or you have one that you go to
and you know that there's going to be some newcomers,
right that are only there on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You got to get that audience. You got to capture
the audience.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
You got to go with the good old you know,
the some high hard ones, tried and true. Jesus wept
simple Oh wait, maybe not on Christmas because Jesus was
just born.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well Jesus did. He probably wailed, yeah, but that's not
in the Bible. Muling and puking. The Bible does not
have that part as well.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Jesus in the Bible, if I'm not mistaken, was a
pretty cool baby, like Jesus held it together as a baby.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, I don't think you.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Never heard about Jesus with colic. You never heard you
never heard about it. You never heard about Jesus with
a you know, blown out diaper, a blown out diaper.
You never heard about Jesus urinating into his mother's mouth
when he was getting changed, like it can happen with boys.
You've never heard about Jesus spitting up off, but again
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have to.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Spit up rag.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's not to say that he didn't do that. Matthew, Mark,
Luke and John didn't think that was necessarity.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, it's also the males. They weren't taking care of
the baby.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh you think they didn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, that's why there should be more female authors writing
in the books, because I bet they knew about Jesus
and what he was up to as a baby.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But my friend was telling me that also in that job.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, basically it is. It is your opening day.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
This is a big, high profile day if you're the
pastor at a church. But that that for so many people,
it's very, very very hard. It's a very difficult time
because for some, I mean, we've gone through this before.
It's the first Christmas without Mom, It's the first Christmas
without Dad, it's the first Christmas without Grandma. It's the
first Christmas without your pet. Whatever I mean, whatever sorrow
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or struggle or pain that you've gone through, through a
course of a year. It seems to be accentuated by
the holidays, just because that's when family gets together and
family gathers, and that's that's a that can be a
very hard.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Time for you realize who's missing.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, you notice more prec My dad died a couple
of years ago. And the beauty of it is it's
my dad hated Christmas, really, all this bullless and I
your mother wants to do this, and we don't need
a tree, and oh I ate that nutcracker, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I mean, he was.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Really cynical when it came to I don't think he
actually was. I think deep down he really liked it.
But that was kind of the stuff that he would say.
So it kind of makes me chick that he doesn't
have to sit through another Christmas.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Was he the Grinch?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, because the Grinch wasn't into all the pomp and
circumstance that grew three sizes that day.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah. No, dads did not did not.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's funny, you know, but my dad was always My
dad was non plussed by it. I never saw again.
I get this from him, very little movement on the needle.
When you did he really enjoy it or did he
hate it? You could never really tell. But he was
always the one that would do all of the things.
He would always be the one that got the Christmas tree.
(05:33):
He would always be the one that decorated and put
the lights on. He's always the one that put the
lights on the house. And he liked it, and he
never he never complained. He never was like, guys, it's Christmas.
Well that's his way of doing that. Yeah, as all
that stuff, that's cool. What about you do you like Christmas?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It comes with pressure. I don't like that part of
it because there's also an aspect of and again this
is I know my place of privilege here that I
have a job that I can take a break from.
But on those days when I take time off or
something like that, almost feel like I'm forcing myself into relaxation.
(06:09):
And that's a weird thing to be complaining about. Like,
but but.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
What he's to do well with?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like, you're sitting on the couch, You've already looked at
the news, You've had your cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Now what I have a question for you? Though, on
the other side, I'd love to ask you.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Gary and Shannon will continue very special, a very special
Christmas edition.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It wouldn't be Christmas.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We wouldn't express ourselves with each other if I didn't say.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Something, if you didn't call me a hoe? Oh was that?
I today? The year?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The actual year and day of our Lord, the year
of well like the year of our Lord, but actually.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
The day thousand years later. It was actually probably in
the springtime.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know, did he not show love for Mary Magdalen? Yes, yes, Sorry,
we don't need to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Go on.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That's one of those Catholic things we didn't really delve
into too much in my church.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But we spent a large portion of our childhood on
the hook or Jesus piled around with Enjoy your.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yule log video or whatever you're watching on the TV today.
There's a couple of football games coming up too, right, Yeah,
so that'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's on Netflix if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, So we were talking about sort of how we
approach the holidays, how we approach Christmas, and I said that,
you know, my dad was never he enjoyed it, and
he would obviously do the things that he would traditionally
do in terms of set up and tear down and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But I never really got one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And you kind of pulled the curtain back a little
bit and said, if he was doing those things he
liked it, he did, and I'm sure he did. We
used to have Christmases with the extended family. It was
very rare that it was just my mom and dad
and two sisters, and I are family of five. We
always had cousins, grandparents multiple Christmases over the course of
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two or three days, depending on how it went. And
that also brought with it when I was a kid,
that brought with it the happiest times, the joy. You'd
stay up late at night playing with your new toys
and your cousins and we would all be jealous that
they got something that I didn't get, or she got
something that they didn't get, or whatever. And as you
(08:30):
get older, it came with sort of for me, it
came with that uncomfortability like I'm eighteen, nineteen twenty years old,
I'm are the cousin. We're not as close with the
cousins as we used to be. Grandma's gone, like all
that became sort of the weird aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But what was it like for you as a kid,
Did you do that or was it just the four
of you?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It would be the four of us on Christmas Eve,
which I always loved, and then the next day usually
it would be us going to my grandparents, my my
dad's parents, my mom's family, her mom her family lived
down here in southern California. So most of the time
we would spend it, I mean every Christmas we spent
it with with my grandma and my my nana and
(09:16):
Pa in San Francisco, and my aunt and uncle, my
dad's brother and his wife, and my cousin Katie, and
we would all go to the grandparents' house and do
Christmas dinner there, or Christmas Dinner at my aunt and
uncle's house in South San Francisco, or at our house
and you know, in Nevado. And so it's just basically,
(09:36):
you know, my family, the four of us and then
uh my my one cousin on that side of the
family and grandparents.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was a good group.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
There always came stories of of you know, generations past,
which I always liked, such an s talk and family too,
you know, about how you know Grandma threw the turkey
down the stairs one year. You know, always antics, always,
always so much. I remember so much tension, always so
(10:08):
much tension over my mom making sure the house was perfect,
the house was clean, the table was set up perfect.
The stressing over very little things like our dirvs, and
my dad being mad that my mom was stressed.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And so makes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Her more stressed and just tense. I remember it being
very tense. There were many tense years, and the same thing.
You would read them if you were a kid that
could feel all that like I was. You know, certain
people pick up on other people's emotions. I can feel
all that, and I feel it no matter whose house
it was, whether my aunt and uncle's house, you could
feel their tension over everyone coming into their house and
(10:45):
it was a smaller house and would everybody fit, and
then my grandparents' house and the whole bit. Everyone gets
so tense over it. I think that's why I never
have hosted Christmas ever. It's funny I've never I think
we did one Thanksgiving years ago. I just have these
memories of pension where it does not need to exist.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I and you just mentioned, or you said earlier that
you and your husband are going to spend the Christmas morning.
This is your morning together, and then you'll go up north.
When our kids started getting older, it became super important
at us to us that it was just the four
of us at some point, whatever time it was, whether
it's Christmas Eve or Christmas whatever, what, there had to
(11:29):
be time where it was just the four of love
that and it was it was important. I mean I
didn't grow up that way, like I said I had.
We always had everybody, and my parents were they also.
My parents were also not sticklers when it came to
the number of bodies compared to the number of beds.
There were always more bodies than there were beds. So
(11:51):
there were kids sleeping on floors. Every pullout couch or
cushion had a body on it at some point. And
that's never been had never been super comfortable for me.
My family is known for that. There are may be
nine people in a two bedroom house. I will find it.
We'll find a place. I mean, it's just sleep. It's
not like that floor is not going.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
To be that hard all night. Don't worry about it. Yeah,
that's always the way it was.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So when our kids started getting older, and they're five, six, seven,
eight years old, and that's still that kind of magical
time in the morning that was super important that we
had just that time for the four of us. Yeah,
and now they're older, I mean they're they bring with
them their own problems or issues or happiness or joy
whatever it is. So it's it's different. And because my
(12:37):
sisters and I now all of our kids, all of
our kids, yeah, all of our kids are adult children
now some of that magic has kind of worn away
and we replace it with mimosas, Oh.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I gotta say, uh, not drinking this year, my
first holiday season not drinking is wild. Like Thanksgiving, I
thought like I would never be able to do holidays
not drinking, and it made it so much easier. It's
so much more chill in my head, in your head,
in my head. I'm not like, you know, talking as
(13:11):
to people in my head. It's not affecting me. It's
I'm not no one's going to rise out of me.
I'm not stressed out, I'm not expecting. There's no expectations.
It's just like a chill vibe and I'm like, wow,
how did I do so many holidays so blitzed for
so long, like it's so much, it's so much easier. Well,
(13:34):
at this point, talk to me after I might it
may be.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
It may change when we come back on the fifth.
It's going to be a mess if I come back.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, we also celebrate Christmas, so we're going to be
done today. I know we're supposed to talk of about travel.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh okay, but I found this story that Richie left
for us about quintuplets to celebrate Christmas at home after
leaving the nick You for one Texas mom, ABC News
writes this holiday season is extra special, to which I say,
is it?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Teresa is her nabe? Oh, she's talk about pressure.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Teresa is thirty six and she is a mother. Teresa,
she will celebrate Christmas with all five of her quintuplets.
She gave birth to them in June. The last quintuplet
to be discharged from the neonatal intensive care unit came
home in November. As you can imagine, carrying five babies
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comes with a lot of challenges and complications. She is
a first time mom and she got pregnant with quintuplets.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That can't be the natural, right, I mean, it can't.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Be easy, no matter if you're like a second time
mom or a third time mom at a fourteenth time mom.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
No no, no no.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Their names Kyla, Joseph, Jackson, Viviana, and Isabella all twenty
eight weeks and one day was when they came out,
and like you said, Viviana was the last two have
been discharged from the neonatal ICU and they go home
to El Paso, Texas.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There's only about one hundred and forty eight quintuplet or
quads or higher a year in this country. When does
it become fun to have five babies that are the
same age at all times of life?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah? Like when do you went?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
There's a point when they're two where they're all five
going different directions.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You can't catch any of them.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
There's a point when they're seven and they're all annoying
and sick or they won't eat their peas or whatever,
and that's awful. Then they are all going to hit
puberty at the same time. I mean, probably the girls
before the boys. That's what nature does. But is there
a time is it when they graduate from high school together.
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Is that when it turns the corner.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Here's the unique thing about Teresa. She is a quad herself.
That's not true. Wait a minute, so these may have
been natural yes?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So she knows when the fun begins or the lack thereof.
She is a quad truplet herself. She has three brothers, Joseph,
Matthew and Thomas.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah. Also, during her pregnancy, she and her care team
because he needed a team of people around you. When
you got five babies cooking.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You might as well just have five doctors or five midwives,
or five nurses or five everything.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Five everything.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They learned that two of her quintuplets, Isabella and Viviana.
I love that name, Viviana, were identical mono pro ionic
choreonic diam naotica yeah or modi twins, meaning they shared
a placenta but were in separate amniotic sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
What does that mean? Doctor? Do you know what placenta is? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I'm trying to make sure that I get the layer right.
The placenta is the sack that don't do that with
your hands. The placenta is the sack that they're in.
Noat sack.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think a sack is inside the placenta. Sure, so
there's two layers.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So if you had a basketball, that's your placenta, and
you had two grapefruits on the inside of that, that
would be the two amniotic sacks.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But they're in the same sack, right, No, they're in
the same placenta. You got five basketballs no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
No, no, well, yes, she had five separate No, she had
four separate placentas, but five different amniotic sacks.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's a lot of stuff to put in there. That's
a lot of stuff to come out. What do you
do with all that stuff?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You save it for? What make gifts out of its?
Christmas time?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Planted under the apple tree out in the backyard.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It sometimes sometimes smoothie. I've heard that it's pretty gross. Yeah,
it is pretty gross. Would you eat a placenta smoothie?
If I found one for you, it's got a bunch
of my own child, then no, Would you eat your
wife's placenta in a smoothie? If? Yeah, I think I would.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's really sweet. I mean, you know, you woul't even
eat macha in this. I have tried macha. We've already
discussed this.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know, Okay, I tried it. It's just I'm not
going to do it over how many time. I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna ask for placenta every Thursday night. Hey, honey,
instead of that beef borgon that I love so much,
why not crank out some placenta stew.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's not like the lasagnia that's made every fall. You know,
Oh that's great anyway, that sounds like a lot. I mean,
if you think you have a chaotic Christmas going on,
at least there's not five babies under that.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Tree, five six month old. They all want, you know, breasts,
and that's another thing. You got to milk those things.
What do you mean those How do you do that?
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
How do you do that? You got to get in help.
You got to do bottles. You gotta formula.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Probably do you say bottle service, like popping bottles?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah? Service, you know, like you've got to do formula.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I would imagine, yeah, because I don't think you'd have
enough to Maybe.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You get a little breast milk and then you like
spread it out over the sick.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You get a tablespoon, and you get a tablespoon and
you put it in the bottle and you put the
formula and then you shake it up like you're mixing drinks.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, maybe it is bottles.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
What if it's like a bottle of like tubes connecting
out of it, so it's like an octopus tube bottle situation.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
So one tick can like distribute five.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Ways, Yeah, like a like a like at a cattle range.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Don't they do that with the tubes with a cow
oh on the otters? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, that's kind of what they become at that point.
I know, that's awful. That's an awful thing.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I saw my girlfriend. I hope they have a.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Doing the whole milking thing with the whole like the
breast pump, the breast pump. Yeah, And I was, I mean,
I was like no, ma'am, Like I.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Could not do that. Built a little bovine Yeah yeah,
And I was like absolutely not. The hurt too.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And I wasn't even like twenty three. I was like
forty three when I saw that happen. And I was like, Nope,
not forty three yet. Oh that's it.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's the end. Shannon.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
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KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So forty six percent of your gen Z employees are
ready to quit their jobs. Apparently majority of managers, according
to Forbes, are trying everything.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I okay, we do these studies when we would compare generations, right,
the gen X, the gen Z, the millennials, etc. How
their attitudes have changed over the sorry, how their attitudes
are different about things like work and bills and all
that sort of stuff. My question is, is this a
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product of an actual delineation between those generations or are
we taking surveys of people that we've never taken surveys
of before.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think you hit on some poignant questions there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They say, you can spend millions on new products or
motivational gurus or company retreats, but that's not going to help.
They say, gen Z is not leaving your company or
job hopping because they're bored or lacking for entertainment. It's
not because they want quiddage tournaments. I say that, right, yep,
or a coffee bar or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
They say.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They're looking for the nearest exit because becuse, this is
a generation that is trying not to spit out your food. Exhausted,
Oh boy, they're exhausted. The main reason the lack of
growth opportunities. Around one third of those surveyed felt stalled
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in their careers, thirty four percent of millennials, thirty two
percent of gen Z, twenty eight percent of gen X.
They say that there is an overwhelming majority of them
said that there is a lack of employer support for
further education or training. So they're not seeing a path forward,
a future, maybe a way of increasing their earning power
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down the line, and frankly, that would do it for me.
That's why people That's why I left my job at
the Delhi or people leave their job at McDonald's. You know,
that's what those jobs are for the ones where there's
really no pathway unless you're going to be like a
manager or you know, core go into.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
The corporate route or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like if they're if the road ends, if you can
see the end of the road and you're earning what
you're going to earn in that position, you probably leave
that job.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That's the way I was.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's the way I think human nature goes in those years,
in those twenties and thirties years. If you don't see
a path to earning more, why.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Would you stay at a place.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I also think that there's a mentality that is different
than it would have been before. A lot of people
are probably younger people are looking for the job to
be the fulfilling, to check a lot more boxes than
just provide a paycheck. And it's probably not the i'll
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use it today. What do they want? Well, I'll use
my Grandpa Dickerson as an example.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I love it when Dickerson and Dixie make their way
into the program.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So he's he's digging the California Aqueduct by himself.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Maybe not himself, but that's the way he told the stories.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He wasn't going to work looking for it to be
a fulfilling, you know, mentally stimulating thing. It was a
way for him to provide for his family and any
sort of outside mental stimulation he loved to read, for example,
Louis Lamore books. That's that kind of stuff he got
outside of work, that he got that enjoyment away from
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the thing he did to provide for his family. And
I wonder if people nowadays look more. They want their
job to be more holistic. They want their employer to
help take care of them in certain instances. Now employers,
I think do that to a large degree with the
benefits that they can offer, depending on what company it is,
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how far you know, do they have a gym on
the site, are they going to pay your monthly membership?
How much do they cover do they contribute to your
four oh one k? All those things they can do.
And I think people have come to expect that much
from their place of work, as opposed to saying I
come here, I work, I go home, I play.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean, but what if there was no path,
you know, to making more money? I mean, isn't that
I mean, I guess if you use Dickerson here, you
know he's gonna make X amount of dollars and he's
gonna make X amount of dollars for the rest of
his life.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And he knows that.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And that's okay, And there's always going to be dudes
like that or women like that. But for people who
want to keep going up the ladder, keep making more
and more and achieving and achieving, then why would they
stay in that job?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, then why did they take the job in the
first place, because it's a stepping stone.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Why did you take the job in Sacramento that wasn't
on air?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know, we all take those stepping stone jobs. We
don't think we're going to stay in them. So why
That's why I asked a question. They say forty six
percent of gen Z plan to quit. How to stop them?
Where I'm saying, why stop them? Let them continue on
their path, on their journey wherever they want to go them?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Why the next step? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Why hold someone back that doesn't want to be there
or wants to have greater earning power? That's what Isn't
that what life's all about. I've been figuring all of
that out.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And that goes back to my original question, which is
did people have this same attitude in nineteen ninety. It's
just nobody thought to, you know, delve into the feelings
of a twenty six year old semi professional about what
they're what their next step is going to be.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think nineteen ninety was probably the beginning of asking
that age group how they felt about things.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You know, when you think about like the real.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
World generation, right, like the first real world And it
was like a bunch of twenty somethings. And I remember
there even though I was very very young, too young
to even remember this, but.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Thinking like, well, what do they think?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I remember there being a conversation of, well, who
gives a crap what's going on with young twenty somethings
and them all living together?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Who cares what they think? They're twenty something? You know?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And I think that ever since that, I mean, that
may have been the beginning of actually caring what somebody
had to think when they were a young person, and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Then putting too much of an emphasis on, you know,
catering to those feelings right, as opposed to a letting
the feelings adjust to the situation that they're.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Everyone's feelings are out of control at twenty something.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
None of those feelings should be paid attention to.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You should just keep ignoring them well into our fifties
if you don't mind. Well, there it is another portion
of the show that apparently Ritchie and Elmer and Matt
and all the producers and everybody in the background, they
all thought that that was some of the best of
I guess getting up with this. Well, wow, exactly. Gary
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