October 22, 2025 • 29 mins
Gary swears he’s loyal to L.A., but Shannon’s not buying it after spotting his suspicious Cleveland tee during World Series week! They spar over whether it’s a betrayal or just bad laundry timing, then dive into President Trump’s $230 million DOJ reimbursement demand, the Lakers’ rough start, and the newest Gen Z dating trend, “throning.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What about Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just to be mean bitch? Like, what about do you
feel good? Or do you go knife to the heart?
Or did you like Wayne Gretzky you know what I mean?
Like you had them, we got him? You know, like right,
that'd be quite a bit, that would be quite a move.
There's just so many options. Do you wanted to do
feel good or you want to be mean? You know,
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it's like, what what do you want to do? How
do you want to start the vibe? Poorl Hrscheiser, Kurt Gibson,
feel good history, Dodgers of that stuff. But Kendrick Lamar's like,
we're in it to f you guys, We're gonna win
it in four get the f out of our country.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Maybe not, that's a little bit aggressive.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't see either.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
The personality of the Dodgers doesn't seem like Kendrick e.
Although in the event that they win, I would absolutely
see Kendrick as part of the celebration.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, it's like when they had you know, I don't know.
I love a rap battle.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, you know, the East Coast. It's a very modern thing.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I mean, the whole uh, the whole Kendrick Drake thing
would be would be great as an under I mean,
but it's I think it's lost on a lot of
people unfortunately. I mean just in terms of the marketing.
They would they would have to. Hey, don't forget Kendrick
and Drake are in a rap battle.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
They're a right.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But who did New York had when we had ice
Cube Fat Joe Fat Joe, which is also one of
those things like that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Was there really a beef between ice Cube and Fat Joe?
Probably not. I mean, this one at least has an actual.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You're right, You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's not just fans going East Coast West Coast. It's
actual personal between those two guys.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I didn't realize Freddie Freeman's parents were.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Canadian And oh that makes sense, doesn't it. Yes, now
it all comes together.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I guess his mom is from Toronto. So this comeback
for him, or a return kind of home for him.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I read an article in the Athletic this morning about
Dave Roberts kind of pulling in the veterans the Superstars
when they were in Baltimore and that slide. Remember we
talked about it, like the Dodgers with this lineup are
capable of this type of slump.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
When we saw it, what was that August September.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Something, Yeah, August August, and we're like, what the heck
is going on? Nobody's hitting the pitch. All the pitchers
were in the er like it was just a mess.
And Dave Roberts, I guess, corralled those veterans and the superstars,
which he never does because you know, if you if
you go to that well too often, your words mean nothing, right,
So he read he does not do this on the
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regular it's pretty odd. And he did that in Baltimore
and he kind of got them together and just said,
just stop trying to be perfect, just just relax, just
stop trying to be perfect, and then they went on
like a fifteen and five tear and it worked well. Now,
when a coach can pull the veterans and the superstars
and just say.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Relax, just stop trying, stop trying to do everything well.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
And on the individual level, when a player gets into
that slump, you know, a good hitter gets into a slump,
and they try all these different things, and they change
their hand position, and they change their stance, and they
change their attitude. It's usually it's something like they come
to the ballpark hungover and they forget about all of
that stuff and they just go back to what is
the basics and they end up three for four with
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you know, four RBIs or something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Right, it's like that major motion picture Life or something
like it with Angelina Joe Lee when she's a news
reporter and she's trying to be the perfect network news
reporter and it's not working. She goes out and she
gets drunk and she's herself on the air and she
goes to the network.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's why every day at eight thirty, we do shots,
a line of shots, Yeah, just to make fire relax,
Like just pushing so hard, exactly, stop trying to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You and I routinely try to be perfect. That's sorry,
you couldn't get through it.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, that's all right. There is a big deal going
on in DC. President Trump is demanding that the DOJ
pay him two hundred and thirty million dollars. Now, this
is interesting because this is all from past investigations that
the Department of Justice has done into President Trump, whether
it was investigating Russian tampering connections to the twenty sixteen campaign,
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the document's case where the FBI raided mar A Lago
in twenty twenty two. These complaint these are not actually
lawsuits as of yet, but these are complaints in an
administrative claim process that can be a precursor to a lawsuit.
First claim lodged in twenty three was specifically about the
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FBI and Special Council investigation into Russian election tampering. A
second complaint filed last summer, accused the FBI of violating
Trump's privacy by searching marl et cetera.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Now, the interesting aspect of the couple things.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Number one, no one has ever had the balls to
do this before, No president has ever done this before.
And no one has done this and then become the
president and instituted all of his former defense attorneys. Shouldn't
say all, many of them to work for the Justice Department.
(05:24):
So a lot of the people who would now decide
on whether or not to pay out these claims are
people who were working as his defense attorneys in these
exact cases.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, there is a plan.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
According to Payam Bondi's office, she's the attorney General. They
have said that everybody that's involved would follow the advice
of career ethics professionals here and determine whether or not
they would be part of the decision making process or
leave it to somebody else. Todd Blanche as an example.
Todd Blanche is a guy who was working as the
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president's defense attorney for a long time. He's now a
deputy Attorney General and in fact in a position to
sign off on two hundred and thirty million dollars check
that would go to President Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That may be why, to use your words, he has
the balls to do so because all of the people
that make the decisions on whether he gets the payout
are in positions he put them in.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So there's a couple things about it. Also, the money.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
The President has said whatever, if he is to get
any money out of this, despite the incredibly obvious ethical
violations that are at play, he had said that money
would go to charity or to some good cause. He
might put it into refurbishing the White House, which he's
already started that sort of thing. But the lawyers are
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going to get an absolute boatload of pantload of this
money as well. That's the way these things work. So
whatever lawyers filed these claims against the Department of Justice
also stand to win tens of millions of dollars in
the potential payout that the.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Taxpayer dollars tax to Trump lawyers dollars. Yes, he knows
what he's doing. This is not like an integrity thing.
This is spreading money around. That's not his and what's
what he does. He's a business person and that is
not something that you get rid of once you step
into the White House. All Right, if there's money to
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be made, you're going to make it. In other words,
healthcare premiums are surging ahead of this whole government. I mean,
this was going to happen anyway, right, Health insurance costs
of sword for twenty twenty six. As the shutdown continues,
the fight seems to center around health insurance as well.
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So while you may not notice it now, you may
notice it in a matter of months.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (08:46):
The Louver is back open for the first time since
the gang of four men broke into the gallery on Sunday,
making off with about eighty million dollars worth of jewelry,
the most dramatic high in France in decades. And now
the broken windows where the robbers made their way in
have become the tourist attraction as tour boats make their
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way up the sane and people are just clamoring to
see how this happened one of the tourists visiting Paris
with her husbands, and it's just extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It looks like it was so simple, she says.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
If it happened in a film, people would be saying, well,
it's a really boring script. Two of the thieves wearing
that high v's vests high vs. High visit vests as
they were as if they were workmen, used an extendable
ladder and furniture lift parked on the street to climb
up and break in through the window in daylight, used
disc cutters to smash two display cases containing the jewelry.
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That's the thing with the louver is, you know workmen
around it. There's always upgrades, there's always construction going on.
It's massive. It wouldn't be odd, it wouldn't be something
where you would think that that was out of the ordinary.
They made off on the back of two waiting motorbikes
with eight p pieces emerald and diamond necklace that Napoleon
gave a second wife, Marie Louise diamond studded diadem. What's
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a diadem once belonged to the Empress Eugenie, wife of
Napoleon the third.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The whole thing they say is so surreal.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
They're going to find these guys. They have to.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I don't know. I feel they've made no matter of time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like if you don't catch them in the first forty eight,
all right, yeah, it's like a missing child.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Did you have any rain last night? A couple of
places I saw. I had some rain on my windshield,
but just a little, just a few drops. National Weather
Service actually says this low pressure system that's coming in
today could bring in some rain and thunderstorms in southern California.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I did notice the sunset that looked gorgeous last night
with the colors and the clouds and the way Weird
talked about it yesterday with this offshore system, and it
was just gorgeous pinks and purples and blues and greens.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Now we need a little SpaceX launch to spruce it
up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now, you know what we need is the aliens? Oh
oh yeah, we're like T minus. It's a week from today, right, it's.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
A week from today that it's closest to the sun,
which who knows.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Lakers started their season off on the wrong foot. They
lost to the Warriors one nineteen to one oh nine.
Luka Doncik had forty three points.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Like wow.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Clippers will start their season tonight. They're in Utah to
take on the Jazz. So the fight that is the
government shut down. One of the main issues is over
subsidies for government government subsidies for healthcare, and Republicans have said, listen,
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we'll talk. We will talk about that, but we need
to get the government reopened.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's the sticking point.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Democrats say they won't vote to reopen, even temporarily the
government until the issue of more healthcare subsidies is talked about.
Republicans have said, we'll talk about it, but let's get
this government back up and running. So as we get
deeper into this day twenty two, I believe of the
government shutdown, we're now seeing people starting to look at
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enrolling in the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, whatever term
you want to use, coming up for the next year.
The enrollment period starts next month, but there are some
previews that are available on those states that have their
own marketplaces, and what we've seen is at least an
eighteen percent on average, I should say an eighteen percent
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hike in some of those healthcare costs.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This isn't in any of the headlines, but I'm connecting
the docs and it's the weight loss drugs. Interesting, the
average cost for a family health insurance plan offered through
the workplace was about twenty seven thousand dollars. It's up
six percent from a year ago. The coverage through the
workplace is really the backbone of the country's health insurance system,
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and employers are citing prescription drug spending as a big
factor in driving insurance costs higher in recent years. Larger employers,
specifically who do cover the weight loss drugs WeGo v
zep pound covering those medications, according to employers, had a
significant impact on the health insurance plan prescription drug spending.
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Smaller companies less likely to cover these weight loss medications.
But obviously the large employers are the true backbone sure
and if they are footing the bill for all of
the weight loss drugs, then they of course they have
to raise the rates.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So there's a listen.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I'm not a gigantic fan of weight loss drug that
specifically like that, because I still don't think that we
know exactly what the downstream effects could potentially be, but
we do know the immediate effects effects of you losing
weight is incredibly positive for your health. So there is
a debate out there should the government provide GLP ones
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at low or no cost because of the immediate effects
on everybody's health, right.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Because you're going to be spending probably much more money
if people don't lose weight. Right, You're going to be
spending a lot more money as they get older and
they have more health problems that are obesity related. Why
not spend it on the front end and let them
take advantage of the weight loss drugs or what have you,
and try to erase that back end cost. But that
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didn't come out right back costs, but you know what
I mean, try to avoid spending the money down the line.
If you can stop the obesity now, you're not going
to have to pay for their issues in twenty years, right.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Which is also brings up the issue of we need
to be better about preventing these health problems in four
year olds when they're ten year olds. I mean, we
need to stop this this I don't know, we're not
going to skin it a fat pipeline that we put
people on for forty or fifty years we're not going to.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Develop willpower as a people anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That's also a very good point. My guys. You guys
are killing me. It took me five minutes to stop laughing.
You guys come in and try to be perfect every
day trying. That's class.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It was a joke for us adults who get jokes spicy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Obviously we're not perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I don't know about Obviously, you're.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Wearing a shirt today that says Cleveland. How do you
put that on and then have a perfect day?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's the Cleveland Stokers.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a cool shirt.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think they're a soccer team, but you don't know.
I honestly don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Then you're wearing a shirt and you're publicizing something you
don't even know about it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I do know.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Hey, Shannon and Gary, thank you. I was calling to
tell you that I don't know how old you guys are. Well,
I do know, but I'm not going to say. But
back in the day, when you were in a slump,
you went and you went to the near and you
went and got a swampbuster, and after that you're good.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The what's in a slumpbuster?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Which is whatever?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
All right, I'm gonna tell you about the Cleveland Stokers
when we come back. Since you put on a shirt
that says the Cleveland Stokers, big big emblem there on
your chest and you don't even know the story behind them,
that troubles me.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Maybe it was a gift, yeah, but you still look
it up before you put it on and advertise it
as your own.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Claim the Cleveland Stokers as my team, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty, so you.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
May not know this, but you are subconsciously a genius. Okay, Okay,
you are a San Francisco Giants fan.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yes, through and through.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Everybody knows you have had another disappointing season.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Asked an answer.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You live in Los Angeles. You a radio show in
Los Angeles. You are right next door to the Dodgers station.
You're hit over the head constantly with the Dodgers' success.
You put on this shirt that was a gift to
you today, Cleveland Stokers. I'm gonna feel very much like
Miranda Priestley right now and the Devil Wears Prada when
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she's explaining that you have no idea what you're doing
with your outfit, and I will tell you what you're
doing with your outfit. Okay, the gift your t shirt
was a gift to you, the Cleveland Stokers. You said,
I don't even know what this is. I think it
was a soccer team, and.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I will tell you that much. I was pretty confident
about that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I will tell you exactly what your shirt represents. It
represents your strong feelings inside your soul. For the fact
that the Dodgers are back in the World Series and
your giants are in Cabo and they've been there for
the length of October. They they are sad. You are sad,
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and yet you have to put on a brave face
and talk about the Dodgers' matchups the past three series.
You have to listen to Tim Kate's smile through his reports.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
About the Dodgers and tell me that they interviewed Dusty
Baker today on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You put on that shirt not knowing what you were doing,
but the universe knew what you were doing. The Cleveland
Stokers were a soccer team based in Cleveland, Ohio. Yes,
they played in the United Soccer Association during the nineteen
sixty seven. In nineteen sixty eight, they were in the
North American Soccer League. Their home field was Cleveland Stadium. Now,
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they were all in existence from nineteen sixty seven to
nineteen sixty nine, but they were founded by a Canadian
in nineteen sixty six, Jack Kent Cook, Canadian was interested
in starting this major league soccer league. What else did
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he do? Oh, he was a partner in network of
radio stations and newspapers in Canada. Okay, So not only
are you pushing back against the Dodgers and rooting for
Canada in this series, you're supporting the man who tried
to bring Canada to the United States successfully. Unfortunately for you,
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Jack Kent Cook was not successful, repeatedly unsuccessful, which is
why the Cleveland Stokers only were in existence for two
years and why eventually America beat Canada in this way?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Is this Jack Kent Cook, Washington Redskins Jack Kent Cook
and former Lakers Jack Kent Cook.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
He's got to be the same guy.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, I mean, he's tried to start a major league
baseball team in Toronto and failed, and so came to
the United States and tried to pick up this soccer thing.
Went on to become the owner of the Redskins, the Lakers,
the Kings, the whole bit, also developed the Forum in Inglewood.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But this is your way of pushing back.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's subconsciously pushing That's It's It's brilliant, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's a long explanation as to how I'm pushing back.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like you are sneakily pushing back and rooting for Toronto,
but all the while knowing you're going to fail, just
like Kent, Jack Kent cooked it well.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
The in that regard Dodgers game that we went to
in the summer back in July with listeners who won
the auction at Caterina's Club was the Dodgers game against
the Milwaukee Brewers. And I was wearing the Nashville Sounds
sweatshirt that day, Nashville Sounds being the Triple A team
for the Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Ah, did you know what you were doing that day?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I knew exactly what I was doing that day.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
But nobody, I mean, forty eight thousand people at Dodgers Stadium,
they have no d be sure.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I was the only one where in Nashville Sound.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's that's cool. I had no idea what you were doing.
You didn't tell me, Hey, I'm doing this cool thing.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I told your husband. Oh sure, I told him. Okay, yeah,
he'll appreciate it. He likes to keep secrets from you.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
There is yet another another frustrating outcome when it comes
to whatever peace deal is supposed to be going on
between Ukraine and Russia. A couple of days ago, President
Trump had said he had a phone call with Vladimir Putin.
This was right before he met with Zelenski. And President
Trump said, yeah, we're gonna meet. We're going to probably
meet in Buddha pest of all the places. We're gonna
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go to Hungary and we're going to meet. And Vladimir
Putin said something along the lines of I do not
know what you're saying. There is no lunch, no lunch
for us to have. They decided that they were going
to put this thing on hold. Now President Trump says
it's on hold because he doesn't want a meeting with
Putin to be a waste of time. A spokesperson for
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the Kremlin also said as much. No one wants to
waste time, neither President Trump nor Putin. That was Dmitri
Peskov from the Kremlin saying that the planned summit requires
some careful prep suggesting that laying the groundwork could take
some time. In the meantime, should dumps yet another large
scale drone and missile attack across Ukraine, killing at least
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six people, including a woman and her two young daughters.
There is consistent reporting that says President Trump continues to
be frustrated with Vladimir Putin's refusal to budge when it
comes to any sort of conditions on how to end
this war, but he's not doing anything about it. It
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doesn't seem like is.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
This a reaction to the rhetoric around Trump and Putin's meeting,
or is this just business as usual? This drone and
missile attack.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
As far as we've seen, its business as usual. It's
a Tuesday night in that. But there's got to be
and I don't know if it's simply because of the
optics of this summit is planned, then it's postponed, and
then we see highlights headlines I should say, of drone
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and missile attack.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That seems to be a consistent pattern.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I don't know if it's necessarily highlighted by the fact
that there are other headlines that are generated that then
we turn around and go, oh, look, another four hundred
drones have flown into Ukraine for an attack and it's
just getting more attention because of the postponed summit.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So coming up next there is a new toxic gen.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Z dating labels label time. It's called throning h What
could this possibly be?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We'll do swamp Watch at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Talk a little bit more about that demand that the
Justice Department pray pay President Trump about two hundred and
thirty million dollars he's made claims against the DOJ and
asking for compensation for those federal investigations against him. One
of the problems with pardoner everybody involved with January sixth
was one of the Capital Rioters who had been parton
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Pardoned has been arrested again, this time for threatening to
kill the House Minority leader. Court documents showed that Christopher
moynihan was arrested last weekend saying in text messages that
he was planning to eliminate Hakeem Jeffries when he was
speaking at an event in New York City, and according
to a court filing, moynihan wrote, quote, Hakeem Jeffries makes
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a speech in a few days in NYC. I cannot
allow this terrorist to live.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Throning is what they're calling a toxic new gen Z
dating trend, which makes you chuckle if you're of a
certain age, because this has been going on since the
dawn of time. Just like all the other toxic new trends,
every generation thinks they've come up with something, are that
they're the first, And I get that that's just the
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way the world works, so the way history plays out.
But this has been going going on since the very
days of you know, actual thrones, actual crowns.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It means dating someone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
To raise your social status. The goal is for throwners
to land a partner with clout so that their own
image gets a boost by association. First of all, if
you think that you need a boost by dating someone
who you think is better than you, it's time to
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spend some time with yourself and realize that you are enough.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They are not better than you.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I do have a question about some of the stuff
that we talk about when we talk about these dates,
this and shrekking that we talked about a couple of
weeks ago. Is this what's the percentage of people who
are actually doing this? Like, what percentage of people are
thinking to themselves? People do it all the time social
media content or I have social media followers and in
order to boost my social media following and need to
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date somebody who has a larger social media following.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So then there's some crossover.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
There is this just about social media? No, it's just
about it in general.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm just using that as a as an easier metric
by which to measure your success. Ye, if you do
if you do throne date date, well, throwne date.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't even know how to say it.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
There's certain times of your dating life where you're in
different places.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right Sometimes you.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Want air conditioning, Sometimes you want air conditioning, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Sometimes you're looking for the mental connection.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Sometimes you don't feel like you're in the best place
maybe professionally or whatever, so you date somebody who is
right there with you so you can be like, well,
at least I'm not you know, getting high all day
and just playing video games. I'm actually going to a
place of work, even though it's not where I want
to end up.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And then there's times where you're like, I want better
for me. I'm going to date this person who's got
it all together, and then maybe all get my ass together.
These are all common things that happen in your twenties
and thirties, probably now because people wait longer.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Well, and I'll say that I'm not saying I had
the most active dating life in the world, but I
don't remember ever having those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Let me ask you this, and you can be completely
anonymous about this.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Uh huh, So ask me about my friend.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You probably dated girls where you felt better about yourself,
and you probably dated girls where you didn't feel as
good about yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Sure, we all, yeah, okay, we all.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Go through this.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's just called dating and growing up and going through
different phases of your own life and finding out what you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Need at each phase. That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
If you're in the part of life where you want
to date someone who you think is better than you,
we've all been there. Yeah, and you don't need a
name for it, but that's what they're calling it. Throning ps.
Those relationships never work out. If you're doing this, you're
always going to think that you're less than or what
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have you if you think somebody is better than you,
But isn't it, especially if it's because they look better
on Instagram, they have more followers or what have you.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Isn't this the basis of the next rom com, which
is that somebody falls for somebody else thinking that they
have it all together or something like that. It turns
out that they don't have it all together. It's all
a facade, and despite the fact that they don't have
that huge online following, they fall in love anyone.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, you date the person with the huge online following
and you realize they're not for you and you end
up with Justin Herbert. That is exactly true. That's the story.
You end up with somebody much better. That's Madison Beer's story, right,
She's with this guy that he.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Has, he's huge on TikTok or what have you. He
treats her like crap.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
She ends up hooking up with his favorite athlete and
it's and it's love. I mean, it's a real life
rom com. And that's exactly the way it plays in
real life. Sometimes when you think you're dating someone that's
better than you and you're going to be better for it,
they're not the person for you.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Why don't we just do a show about dating Martland,
Probably because we haven't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Neither of one of us has.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Dated in twenty years. Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What about Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just to be mean bitch? Like, what about do you
feel good? Or do you go knife to the heart?
Or did you like Wayne Gretzky you know what I mean?
Like you had them, we got him? You know, like right,
that'd be quite a bit, that would be quite a move.
There's just so many options. Do you wanted to do
feel good or you want to be mean? You know,
(00:34):
it's like, what what do you want to do? How
do you want to start the vibe? Poorl Hrscheiser, Kurt Gibson,
feel good history, Dodgers of that stuff. But Kendrick Lamar's like,
we're in it to f you guys, We're gonna win
it in four get the f out of our country.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Maybe not, that's a little bit aggressive.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't see either.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
The personality of the Dodgers doesn't seem like Kendrick e.
Although in the event that they win, I would absolutely
see Kendrick as part of the celebration.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, it's like when they had you know, I don't know.
I love a rap battle.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, you know, the East Coast. It's a very modern thing.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I mean, the whole uh, the whole Kendrick Drake thing
would be would be great as an under I mean,
but it's I think it's lost on a lot of
people unfortunately. I mean just in terms of the marketing.
They would they would have to. Hey, don't forget Kendrick
and Drake are in a rap battle.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
They're a right.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But who did New York had when we had ice
Cube Fat Joe Fat Joe, which is also one of
those things like that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Was there really a beef between ice Cube and Fat Joe?
Probably not. I mean, this one at least has an actual.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You're right, You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's not just fans going East Coast West Coast. It's
actual personal between those two guys.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I didn't realize Freddie Freeman's parents were.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Canadian And oh that makes sense, doesn't it. Yes, now
it all comes together.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I guess his mom is from Toronto. So this comeback
for him, or a return kind of home for him.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I read an article in the Athletic this morning about
Dave Roberts kind of pulling in the veterans the Superstars
when they were in Baltimore and that slide. Remember we
talked about it, like the Dodgers with this lineup are
capable of this type of slump.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
When we saw it, what was that August September.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Something, Yeah, August August, and we're like, what the heck
is going on? Nobody's hitting the pitch. All the pitchers
were in the er like it was just a mess.
And Dave Roberts, I guess, corralled those veterans and the superstars,
which he never does because you know, if you if
you go to that well too often, your words mean nothing, right,
So he read he does not do this on the
(02:47):
regular it's pretty odd. And he did that in Baltimore
and he kind of got them together and just said,
just stop trying to be perfect, just just relax, just
stop trying to be perfect, and then they went on
like a fifteen and five tear and it worked well. Now,
when a coach can pull the veterans and the superstars
and just say.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Relax, just stop trying, stop trying to do everything well.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
And on the individual level, when a player gets into
that slump, you know, a good hitter gets into a slump,
and they try all these different things, and they change
their hand position, and they change their stance, and they
change their attitude. It's usually it's something like they come
to the ballpark hungover and they forget about all of
that stuff and they just go back to what is
the basics and they end up three for four with
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you know, four RBIs or something like that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Right, it's like that major motion picture Life or something
like it with Angelina Joe Lee when she's a news
reporter and she's trying to be the perfect network news
reporter and it's not working. She goes out and she
gets drunk and she's herself on the air and she
goes to the network.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's why every day at eight thirty, we do shots,
a line of shots, Yeah, just to make fire relax,
Like just pushing so hard, exactly, stop trying to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You and I routinely try to be perfect. That's sorry,
you couldn't get through it.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, that's all right. There is a big deal going
on in DC. President Trump is demanding that the DOJ
pay him two hundred and thirty million dollars. Now, this
is interesting because this is all from past investigations that
the Department of Justice has done into President Trump, whether
it was investigating Russian tampering connections to the twenty sixteen campaign,
(04:27):
the document's case where the FBI raided mar A Lago
in twenty twenty two. These complaint these are not actually
lawsuits as of yet, but these are complaints in an
administrative claim process that can be a precursor to a lawsuit.
First claim lodged in twenty three was specifically about the
(04:49):
FBI and Special Council investigation into Russian election tampering. A
second complaint filed last summer, accused the FBI of violating
Trump's privacy by searching marl et cetera.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Now, the interesting aspect of the couple things.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Number one, no one has ever had the balls to
do this before, No president has ever done this before.
And no one has done this and then become the
president and instituted all of his former defense attorneys. Shouldn't
say all, many of them to work for the Justice Department.
(05:24):
So a lot of the people who would now decide
on whether or not to pay out these claims are
people who were working as his defense attorneys in these
exact cases.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, there is a plan.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
According to Payam Bondi's office, she's the attorney General. They
have said that everybody that's involved would follow the advice
of career ethics professionals here and determine whether or not
they would be part of the decision making process or
leave it to somebody else. Todd Blanche as an example.
Todd Blanche is a guy who was working as the
(05:59):
president's defense attorney for a long time. He's now a
deputy Attorney General and in fact in a position to
sign off on two hundred and thirty million dollars check
that would go to President Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That may be why, to use your words, he has
the balls to do so because all of the people
that make the decisions on whether he gets the payout
are in positions he put them in.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So there's a couple things about it. Also, the money.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
The President has said whatever, if he is to get
any money out of this, despite the incredibly obvious ethical
violations that are at play, he had said that money
would go to charity or to some good cause. He
might put it into refurbishing the White House, which he's
already started that sort of thing. But the lawyers are
(06:46):
going to get an absolute boatload of pantload of this
money as well. That's the way these things work. So
whatever lawyers filed these claims against the Department of Justice
also stand to win tens of millions of dollars in
the potential payout that the.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Taxpayer dollars tax to Trump lawyers dollars. Yes, he knows
what he's doing. This is not like an integrity thing.
This is spreading money around. That's not his and what's
what he does. He's a business person and that is
not something that you get rid of once you step
into the White House. All Right, if there's money to
(07:27):
be made, you're going to make it. In other words,
healthcare premiums are surging ahead of this whole government. I mean,
this was going to happen anyway, right, Health insurance costs
of sword for twenty twenty six. As the shutdown continues,
the fight seems to center around health insurance as well.
(07:48):
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notice it in a matter of months.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (08:46):
The Louver is back open for the first time since
the gang of four men broke into the gallery on Sunday,
making off with about eighty million dollars worth of jewelry,
the most dramatic high in France in decades. And now
the broken windows where the robbers made their way in
have become the tourist attraction as tour boats make their
(09:09):
way up the sane and people are just clamoring to
see how this happened one of the tourists visiting Paris
with her husbands, and it's just extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It looks like it was so simple, she says.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
If it happened in a film, people would be saying, well,
it's a really boring script. Two of the thieves wearing
that high v's vests high vs. High visit vests as
they were as if they were workmen, used an extendable
ladder and furniture lift parked on the street to climb
up and break in through the window in daylight, used
disc cutters to smash two display cases containing the jewelry.
(09:45):
That's the thing with the louver is, you know workmen
around it. There's always upgrades, there's always construction going on.
It's massive. It wouldn't be odd, it wouldn't be something
where you would think that that was out of the ordinary.
They made off on the back of two waiting motorbikes
with eight p pieces emerald and diamond necklace that Napoleon
gave a second wife, Marie Louise diamond studded diadem. What's
(10:08):
a diadem once belonged to the Empress Eugenie, wife of
Napoleon the third.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The whole thing they say is so surreal.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
They're going to find these guys. They have to.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I don't know. I feel they've made no matter of time.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like if you don't catch them in the first forty eight,
all right, yeah, it's like a missing child.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Did you have any rain last night? A couple of
places I saw. I had some rain on my windshield,
but just a little, just a few drops. National Weather
Service actually says this low pressure system that's coming in
today could bring in some rain and thunderstorms in southern California.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I did notice the sunset that looked gorgeous last night
with the colors and the clouds and the way Weird
talked about it yesterday with this offshore system, and it
was just gorgeous pinks and purples and blues and greens.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Now we need a little SpaceX launch to spruce it
up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now, you know what we need is the aliens? Oh
oh yeah, we're like T minus. It's a week from today, right, it's.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
A week from today that it's closest to the sun,
which who knows.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Lakers started their season off on the wrong foot. They
lost to the Warriors one nineteen to one oh nine.
Luka Doncik had forty three points.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Like wow.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Clippers will start their season tonight. They're in Utah to
take on the Jazz. So the fight that is the
government shut down. One of the main issues is over
subsidies for government government subsidies for healthcare, and Republicans have said, listen,
(11:39):
we'll talk. We will talk about that, but we need
to get the government reopened.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's the sticking point.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Democrats say they won't vote to reopen, even temporarily the
government until the issue of more healthcare subsidies is talked about.
Republicans have said, we'll talk about it, but let's get
this government back up and running. So as we get
deeper into this day twenty two, I believe of the
government shutdown, we're now seeing people starting to look at
(12:09):
enrolling in the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, whatever term
you want to use, coming up for the next year.
The enrollment period starts next month, but there are some
previews that are available on those states that have their
own marketplaces, and what we've seen is at least an
eighteen percent on average, I should say an eighteen percent
(12:32):
hike in some of those healthcare costs.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This isn't in any of the headlines, but I'm connecting
the docs and it's the weight loss drugs. Interesting, the
average cost for a family health insurance plan offered through
the workplace was about twenty seven thousand dollars. It's up
six percent from a year ago. The coverage through the
workplace is really the backbone of the country's health insurance system,
(13:00):
and employers are citing prescription drug spending as a big
factor in driving insurance costs higher in recent years. Larger employers,
specifically who do cover the weight loss drugs WeGo v
zep pound covering those medications, according to employers, had a
significant impact on the health insurance plan prescription drug spending.
(13:24):
Smaller companies less likely to cover these weight loss medications.
But obviously the large employers are the true backbone sure
and if they are footing the bill for all of
the weight loss drugs, then they of course they have
to raise the rates.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So there's a listen.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I'm not a gigantic fan of weight loss drug that
specifically like that, because I still don't think that we
know exactly what the downstream effects could potentially be, but
we do know the immediate effects effects of you losing
weight is incredibly positive for your health. So there is
a debate out there should the government provide GLP ones
(14:04):
at low or no cost because of the immediate effects
on everybody's health, right.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Because you're going to be spending probably much more money
if people don't lose weight. Right, You're going to be
spending a lot more money as they get older and
they have more health problems that are obesity related. Why
not spend it on the front end and let them
take advantage of the weight loss drugs or what have you,
and try to erase that back end cost. But that
(14:35):
didn't come out right back costs, but you know what
I mean, try to avoid spending the money down the line.
If you can stop the obesity now, you're not going
to have to pay for their issues in twenty years, right.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Which is also brings up the issue of we need
to be better about preventing these health problems in four
year olds when they're ten year olds. I mean, we
need to stop this this I don't know, we're not
going to skin it a fat pipeline that we put
people on for forty or fifty years we're not going to.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Develop willpower as a people anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That's also a very good point. My guys. You guys
are killing me. It took me five minutes to stop laughing.
You guys come in and try to be perfect every
day trying. That's class.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It was a joke for us adults who get jokes spicy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Obviously we're not perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I don't know about Obviously, you're.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Wearing a shirt today that says Cleveland. How do you
put that on and then have a perfect day?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's the Cleveland Stokers.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a cool shirt.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think they're a soccer team, but you don't know.
I honestly don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Then you're wearing a shirt and you're publicizing something you
don't even know about it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I do know.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Hey, Shannon and Gary, thank you. I was calling to
tell you that I don't know how old you guys are. Well,
I do know, but I'm not going to say. But
back in the day, when you were in a slump,
you went and you went to the near and you
went and got a swampbuster, and after that you're good.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The what's in a slumpbuster?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Which is whatever?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
All right, I'm gonna tell you about the Cleveland Stokers
when we come back. Since you put on a shirt
that says the Cleveland Stokers, big big emblem there on
your chest and you don't even know the story behind them,
that troubles me.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Maybe it was a gift, yeah, but you still look
it up before you put it on and advertise it
as your own.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Claim the Cleveland Stokers as my team, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty, so you.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
May not know this, but you are subconsciously a genius. Okay, Okay,
you are a San Francisco Giants fan.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yes, through and through.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Everybody knows you have had another disappointing season.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Asked an answer.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You live in Los Angeles. You a radio show in
Los Angeles. You are right next door to the Dodgers station.
You're hit over the head constantly with the Dodgers' success.
You put on this shirt that was a gift to
you today, Cleveland Stokers. I'm gonna feel very much like
Miranda Priestley right now and the Devil Wears Prada when
(17:18):
she's explaining that you have no idea what you're doing
with your outfit, and I will tell you what you're
doing with your outfit. Okay, the gift your t shirt
was a gift to you, the Cleveland Stokers. You said,
I don't even know what this is. I think it
was a soccer team, and.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I will tell you that much. I was pretty confident
about that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I will tell you exactly what your shirt represents. It
represents your strong feelings inside your soul. For the fact
that the Dodgers are back in the World Series and
your giants are in Cabo and they've been there for
the length of October. They they are sad. You are sad,
(17:56):
and yet you have to put on a brave face
and talk about the Dodgers' matchups the past three series.
You have to listen to Tim Kate's smile through his reports.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
About the Dodgers and tell me that they interviewed Dusty
Baker today on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You put on that shirt not knowing what you were doing,
but the universe knew what you were doing. The Cleveland
Stokers were a soccer team based in Cleveland, Ohio. Yes,
they played in the United Soccer Association during the nineteen
sixty seven. In nineteen sixty eight, they were in the
North American Soccer League. Their home field was Cleveland Stadium. Now,
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they were all in existence from nineteen sixty seven to
nineteen sixty nine, but they were founded by a Canadian
in nineteen sixty six, Jack Kent Cook, Canadian was interested
in starting this major league soccer league. What else did
(18:53):
he do? Oh, he was a partner in network of
radio stations and newspapers in Canada. Okay, So not only
are you pushing back against the Dodgers and rooting for
Canada in this series, you're supporting the man who tried
to bring Canada to the United States successfully. Unfortunately for you,
(19:13):
Jack Kent Cook was not successful, repeatedly unsuccessful, which is
why the Cleveland Stokers only were in existence for two
years and why eventually America beat Canada in this way?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Is this Jack Kent Cook, Washington Redskins Jack Kent Cook
and former Lakers Jack Kent Cook.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
He's got to be the same guy.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, I mean, he's tried to start a major league
baseball team in Toronto and failed, and so came to
the United States and tried to pick up this soccer thing.
Went on to become the owner of the Redskins, the Lakers,
the Kings, the whole bit, also developed the Forum in Inglewood.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But this is your way of pushing back.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's subconsciously pushing That's It's It's brilliant, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's a long explanation as to how I'm pushing back.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Like you are sneakily pushing back and rooting for Toronto,
but all the while knowing you're going to fail, just
like Kent, Jack Kent cooked it well.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
The in that regard Dodgers game that we went to
in the summer back in July with listeners who won
the auction at Caterina's Club was the Dodgers game against
the Milwaukee Brewers. And I was wearing the Nashville Sounds
sweatshirt that day, Nashville Sounds being the Triple A team
for the Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Ah, did you know what you were doing that day?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I knew exactly what I was doing that day.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
But nobody, I mean, forty eight thousand people at Dodgers Stadium,
they have no d be sure.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I was the only one where in Nashville Sound.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's that's cool. I had no idea what you were doing.
You didn't tell me, Hey, I'm doing this cool thing.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I told your husband. Oh sure, I told him. Okay, yeah,
he'll appreciate it. He likes to keep secrets from you.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
There is yet another another frustrating outcome when it comes
to whatever peace deal is supposed to be going on
between Ukraine and Russia. A couple of days ago, President
Trump had said he had a phone call with Vladimir Putin.
This was right before he met with Zelenski. And President
Trump said, yeah, we're gonna meet. We're going to probably
meet in Buddha pest of all the places. We're gonna
(21:21):
go to Hungary and we're going to meet. And Vladimir
Putin said something along the lines of I do not
know what you're saying. There is no lunch, no lunch
for us to have. They decided that they were going
to put this thing on hold. Now President Trump says
it's on hold because he doesn't want a meeting with
Putin to be a waste of time. A spokesperson for
(21:43):
the Kremlin also said as much. No one wants to
waste time, neither President Trump nor Putin. That was Dmitri
Peskov from the Kremlin saying that the planned summit requires
some careful prep suggesting that laying the groundwork could take
some time. In the meantime, should dumps yet another large
scale drone and missile attack across Ukraine, killing at least
(22:06):
six people, including a woman and her two young daughters.
There is consistent reporting that says President Trump continues to
be frustrated with Vladimir Putin's refusal to budge when it
comes to any sort of conditions on how to end
this war, but he's not doing anything about it. It
(22:27):
doesn't seem like is.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
This a reaction to the rhetoric around Trump and Putin's meeting,
or is this just business as usual? This drone and
missile attack.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
As far as we've seen, its business as usual. It's
a Tuesday night in that. But there's got to be
and I don't know if it's simply because of the
optics of this summit is planned, then it's postponed, and
then we see highlights headlines I should say, of drone
(22:59):
and missile attack.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That seems to be a consistent pattern.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I don't know if it's necessarily highlighted by the fact
that there are other headlines that are generated that then
we turn around and go, oh, look, another four hundred
drones have flown into Ukraine for an attack and it's
just getting more attention because of the postponed summit.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So coming up next there is a new toxic gen.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Z dating labels label time. It's called throning h What
could this possibly be?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (23:42):
We'll do swamp Watch at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Talk a little bit more about that demand that the
Justice Department pray pay President Trump about two hundred and
thirty million dollars he's made claims against the DOJ and
asking for compensation for those federal investigations against him. One
of the problems with pardoner everybody involved with January sixth
was one of the Capital Rioters who had been parton
(24:06):
Pardoned has been arrested again, this time for threatening to
kill the House Minority leader. Court documents showed that Christopher
moynihan was arrested last weekend saying in text messages that
he was planning to eliminate Hakeem Jeffries when he was
speaking at an event in New York City, and according
to a court filing, moynihan wrote, quote, Hakeem Jeffries makes
(24:27):
a speech in a few days in NYC. I cannot
allow this terrorist to live.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Throning is what they're calling a toxic new gen Z
dating trend, which makes you chuckle if you're of a
certain age, because this has been going on since the
dawn of time. Just like all the other toxic new trends,
every generation thinks they've come up with something, are that
they're the first, And I get that that's just the
(24:55):
way the world works, so the way history plays out.
But this has been going going on since the very
days of you know, actual thrones, actual crowns.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It means dating someone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
To raise your social status. The goal is for throwners
to land a partner with clout so that their own
image gets a boost by association. First of all, if
you think that you need a boost by dating someone
who you think is better than you, it's time to
(25:29):
spend some time with yourself and realize that you are enough.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They are not better than you.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I do have a question about some of the stuff
that we talk about when we talk about these dates,
this and shrekking that we talked about a couple of
weeks ago. Is this what's the percentage of people who
are actually doing this? Like, what percentage of people are
thinking to themselves? People do it all the time social
media content or I have social media followers and in
order to boost my social media following and need to
(25:54):
date somebody who has a larger social media following.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So then there's some crossover.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
There is this just about social media? No, it's just
about it in general.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm just using that as a as an easier metric
by which to measure your success. Ye, if you do
if you do throne date date, well, throwne date.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't even know how to say it.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
There's certain times of your dating life where you're in
different places.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right Sometimes you.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Want air conditioning, Sometimes you want air conditioning, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Sometimes you're looking for the mental connection.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Sometimes you don't feel like you're in the best place
maybe professionally or whatever, so you date somebody who is
right there with you so you can be like, well,
at least I'm not you know, getting high all day
and just playing video games. I'm actually going to a
place of work, even though it's not where I want
to end up.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And then there's times where you're like, I want better
for me. I'm going to date this person who's got
it all together, and then maybe all get my ass together.
These are all common things that happen in your twenties
and thirties, probably now because people wait longer.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Well, and I'll say that I'm not saying I had
the most active dating life in the world, but I
don't remember ever having those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Let me ask you this, and you can be completely
anonymous about this.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Uh huh, So ask me about my friend.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You probably dated girls where you felt better about yourself,
and you probably dated girls where you didn't feel as
good about yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Sure, we all, yeah, okay, we all.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Go through this.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's just called dating and growing up and going through
different phases of your own life and finding out what you.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Need at each phase. That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
If you're in the part of life where you want
to date someone who you think is better than you,
we've all been there. Yeah, and you don't need a
name for it, but that's what they're calling it. Throning ps.
Those relationships never work out. If you're doing this, you're
always going to think that you're less than or what
(28:07):
have you if you think somebody is better than you,
But isn't it, especially if it's because they look better
on Instagram, they have more followers or what have you.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Isn't this the basis of the next rom com, which
is that somebody falls for somebody else thinking that they
have it all together or something like that. It turns
out that they don't have it all together. It's all
a facade, and despite the fact that they don't have
that huge online following, they fall in love anyone.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, you date the person with the huge online following
and you realize they're not for you and you end
up with Justin Herbert. That is exactly true. That's the story.
You end up with somebody much better. That's Madison Beer's story, right,
She's with this guy that he.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Has, he's huge on TikTok or what have you. He
treats her like crap.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
She ends up hooking up with his favorite athlete and
it's and it's love. I mean, it's a real life
rom com. And that's exactly the way it plays in
real life. Sometimes when you think you're dating someone that's
better than you and you're going to be better for it,
they're not the person for you.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Why don't we just do a show about dating Martland,
Probably because we haven't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Neither of one of us has.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Dated in twenty years. Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
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