July 21, 2025 • 26 mins
Gary has returned from his vacation in Hawaii. A judge challenges the Trump Administration in a hearing about Harvard funding. OpenAI’s chatbot has reported blurring the line between fantasy and reality regarding a man on the autism spectrum.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I got to tell you that was nice. You
do seem to have the Looha spirit that you have
taken with you. Mahallow, mahallow to you. K kukakkuka. That's
not you're just saying that does not mean a thing.
You haven't seen the movie. I really thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
By the way, You're so welcome you got to approve
my vacation request.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I certainly did not. It was not.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But as I told you and your wife yesterday because
we went to the Dodger game together with the winner
of the Pastathon auction.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Huge shout out to Brian and Danielle.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Brian and Danielle are delightful by the way. I would
hang out with them any day of the week and
twice on Sunday like yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But like I told you and your wife yesterday, I
hope you had a wonderful vacation. Where do y'all think
you're going to go in your next vacation in fifteen years?
She probably didn't think that was as funny as I
didn't think that was very funny at all.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was everyone. It was everyone in my family.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean it was everyone, literally, everyone that's still alive
was there.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It was it was that's that was it. They were
all there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Not to bring it down or serious, but did you
have moments of like mom and dad would be so
happy that we were all together.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We had some. Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
My aunt actually stayed with us because there were some
people that stayed in some condos and we stayed in
a like a vacation rental, so we were within walking distance.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So there's so that must have been why the first
thing your wife said to me when I said, how
was your vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
She said, it wasn't like a sexy island.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Vacation thing, right, because your aunt was with you and
well in the same bed.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No oh no, no. But she was the one who
prompted a lot of those. She's my mom's younger sister.
She's very special, incredible and in terms of we've all
suffered loss in our life, I mean Mom and Dad
of course, but she's lost a granddaughter and a son,
and a husband and a sister and a brother and
a brother in lawnch I mean, she's just she'd been
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through it and is still capable of maintaining of sunny, positive,
bright attitude. She's a very peaceful person, incredibly Yeah, so
that was nice, and she was she kind of prompted
some of those moments like this would be really cool,
like somewhere mom and dad are very happy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That you guys are together. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So then my sister and her whole family was there,
and then my brother in law and sister and their family.
Like it was a huge it was a huge event
for us to do that, but there was we were
all separated enough that, like my wife and I would
go to We went on a seven mile hike one day,
not because we were lost, that was legitimately the point
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was to do a full seven mile hike.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Was it a certain trail It was the Mahanna Ridge Trail.
Would you recommend that? Yes, because it starts out very
non plot. I was not happy.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
This is really dry and boring, but you get up
in elevation I think it's about a fifteen hundred foot
change and you go through like different types of forests.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was really really cool.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And then way up at the top in the middle
of nothing is a bulldozer that a coha tree had
grown around and like it had been there for fifty
years or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
How symbolics. So it was really cool. So I took
a picture of that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
We go to She and I went to a couple
of meals just the two of us, and then there
were other meals where it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was like eight of us. Yeah, so it was a
lot of fun. It was good.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
A couple rounds of golf. I'm hooked by the way.
Oh good, Not that I don't like golf. Just go together, dude,
I had so much fun.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Did your wife play no? Oh okay, Well there's old
dudes okay, but it was also old dudes and young dudes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So old dudes fifteen above, yeah, and then young dudes
people under twenty six. Those guys were crushing the ball, yeah,
crushing it. It ended up in someone's backyard, but they
were hitting that ball so hard.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's addictive when you have like one good swing. All
it takes is one good swing, when you hear that
noise and you get that feel.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean, you play, you chase that drag in.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And we played on kind of a pretty low key
public course at one point. That's the way to do it,
which was great, super cheap fun.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So much pressure sometimes at those really nice places.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But then we played on the really nice one. Yeah,
and it was incredible, just.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Unbelievable views and the pictures and we had so much fun,
and so it was really really good.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And did the loo out and all that sort.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I heard about you and sea turtles, so you're gonna
have to tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, we did go this.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
We did snorkeling and the Malikini Crater there right off
of Maui's supposed to be world renowned for its snorkeling,
and they're talking everybody like, hey, here's what to expect,
here's how to do it. Jump in, see what happens.
Everybody's kind of looking at each other on the boat
like who's gonna go first, Who's I don't know what
it's like. So I just throw my mask on, I
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get in boom, just jumping. No, just just flippers and
the mask and the speedo and the wait what and
the the first look at the at the surface, not
the surface, the underwater looked fake.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, it looks unreal.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And if you're not used to the pressure of being
underwater while trying to breath through a snorkel. It's very
off putting, and you take a couple of seconds like, hey.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
There's no threat, there's no shark, there's no I mean
there was a shart, but that was later. There's no
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But it's just floating and you're seeing hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of fish. We go to a different location.
Someone's like, there's a turtle. What, there's a what? And
I turn and I look and there's just this slow,
graceful turtle floating along the shoreline right next to it.
And then we went to a third place and it
was they call it Turtle Town, and it's this piece
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of coral that's just off of the coast there and
there's twenty sea turtles and they're just hanging out and
I was like, they're not going to bite me, they're
not going to eat me, they're not even interested in me.
And then my nephew is rolling around with this little
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GoPro camera underwater and gets up. One of the turtles
comes close to him and they tell you, like, you're
not supposed to touch him, but they'll come towards you
just kind of go the other way. And he turns
to go the other way, and there's another one right
in there, and then he turns to go a third way.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And there's another one.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
There were six turtles that had surrounded him, and he
wasn't quite sure what to do, so he blows the snorkele,
dives down and gets out from this turtle gang that
was encroaching upon But they were fun, they were beautiful,
it was great.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Everything was you know, he was infiltrating their waters, right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Which is yes. But he was also respectful and that's
why he went. Was he wearing their colors at least? No?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, that's the problem. You can't wear red to them,
all right? That is awesome. You seem so like relaxed
and happy and that goal.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, so you're not tan, you're red. I was a
little bit okay, a little bit tan. Okay. There was
a day. There was a day.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
There was a couple hours one day where it was
I feel all right, I'm just here so you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Know, we'll do a terror in the skies when we
come back. I'm just sitting here for the rest.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Of the day. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on
demand from KFI AM six forty man, I.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Got to take a vacation. Struck me as well. You
told me I'm supposed to laugh things off. That It
wasn't that your morning motivation.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Wet the Daily Jay on the call map, and it
was laughing at your mistakes. That we're all gonna make mistakes.
It's human, but when you laugh them off, it's maturity.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I've made mistakes already today. Probably, No, you haven't look
at this shirt. Yeah, that was a little bit of
a mistake. That's Charanhelwaiian shirt. I don't know what that is.
I've chosen to ignore it. The We'll talk more about
this next hour.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But the guy who ran his car into that crowd
in East LA, suspected of driving into the crowd, twenty
nine year old guy at least eleven criminal cases, ranging
from misdemeanors to felonies. Yeah, it couldn't have happened to
a nicer guy. I mean this, this is when.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We say people will show you who they are, keep
them locked up.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
This is why.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And then the guy who shot him that they're still
looking for hero, hero right.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Now really looking? I know, are they really looking for him?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, come on, everyone wanted to shoot that guy
right in the ass, and he did so. Yay for him.
I support him. I will contribute to his innocence project.
But uh, that that story got outsized attention because I
think that a lot of people wanted that clickbait of
a domestic terrorism situation of a guy klous. It was
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just some drunker, drugged up a hole who had previously
been kicked out of out of the club. Right, It's
time for terror in the sky.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Fire Yorker today, Roger, get off my plane, Roger Rogers,
what's our victor?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Victor I have had with these Multy pipe snakes on
this money.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the skies on KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Where do you want to start? There's so many, there's
like four of them that we have.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I wanted to start with the Delta pilot who had
to take on quite the maneuver to avoid a collision
with a B fifty two bomber. How does this happen,
especially in North Dakota. I mean, not a lot of
a flight travel go going on there. I mean, of course,
there is everywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But mine not.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
North Dakota specifically has an air force base and an
international airport.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So they should know what they're doing. You'd think they
would combine, but it's not like.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's not like it's Washington, DC or lax in terms
of being overwhelmed with air traffic control.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
A pilot flying for sky West, a regional jet. SkyWest
was operating a flight from Minneapolis to Mine, not North Dakota,
and they were able to land. This guy was on
final approach and all of a sudden he sees out
of the right side or as they say in the airplane,
the right side, a B fifty two, a giant B
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fifty two Strata Fortress. Now there was a B fifty
two that was supposed to be flying over the North
Dakota State Fair, and they think that that was the
one that was flying around. There was a woman who
one of the passengers described what she said was a
very quick and very sharp turn.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It was such a hard u turn to where we
were going kind of straight and then went pretty sideways.
I'd be looking out the window and just see straight grass.
I wouldn't be seeing the horizon anymore because we were
so sideways and there was a small plane. So any
kind of maneuver on those is really aggressive, kind of
bumpy turbulence is really aggressive in those and I do
appreciate that he was so transparent about it and let
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us know it. Just it made me feel almost safer
in a way.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now, she's talking about the pilot. At the end of
the flight.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Once they land, they pull up to the gate there
at my not the giant airport that is that might
not international, and he comes over the intercom ladies and gentlemen. Look,
story short, it was not.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I do apologizes for it and thank you Carter.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Today he said, basically, I didn't think there would be
a B fifty two off our starboard side, and when
I saw it, I had to take an evasive maneuver
to get out of the way.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I heard some audio to other audio where you
can hear in his voice, which you don't hear often
from a pilot being like a little a little slightly
haired of having had just had that experience.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The reason it's called the Strata Fortress is because if
you pull up a Google image of this thing, like
I just did, it's a freaking fortress and a sky.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It is massive, it's you can't miss it. So it's
one of those things where if you look up, oh hell,
that and it's gonna fly. The assumption is a lot
slower perhaps than this.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well sky wests Yeah, yeah, and the Air Force had
said they're looking into it. They're not certain yet if
anybody cleared it with the air or with the airport,
at least gave them a heads up that there'd be
a B fifty two trapes in a round. Friday, also
there was a Delta Airlines plane that took off from
Lax and quickly had to return, made a loop and
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touchdown a short time later because the Boeing seven sixty
seven fire in its left engine. That can't be fun
to see if you're sitting behind the wing and you
look out and you see fire coming out of the engine.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
They got the indication right away up in the cockpit,
so it was able to They were able to land.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Sand and then Alaska Airlines has resumed operations. They requested
a ground stop for all flights late yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
They said it was an IT outage. This impacted more
than two hundred planes.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Horizon Air, which is a regional subsidiary operating Alaska flights,
requested a ground stopage as well.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That has also been lifted. Don't know the exact nature
of the IT issue. And it's a three hour outage.
It's not giant. It was it three hours, a little
more than three hours. And they said that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That part of it, the IT part is figured out.
They now have to reposition everybody. They have to put
the planes in the right spots. They got the crews
in the right spots, so still some work to be done.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
We see.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Welcome back, Gary, Thank you well. Two things. You go
to beautiful Hawaii and you can't have sexy time with
your wife because your aunt's in the room. Secondly, you
better tie up Michael Monk somewhere or put him on
a long term assignment. He's going to take you over
pretty soon. He and Shannon had a really good time together.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Watch out. I love those calls after you get back
from vacation. There's so many great people who work here.
It's Kafi, we love you, Michael Munks. It's Trump v.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Harvard before a federal judge today, each trying to claim victory.
This is their fight over billions of dollars in research
money that the government said you no longer get Harvard.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You're a bad puppy. Slap to the tune of three
billion dollars. I need Harvard lawyers versus Trump lawyers. It's
got to be good, right, Uh, it could be fireworks.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You're listening to Gary and on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's got to be one of those moments that Dave Roberts,
as the manager, sees this upon like tonight, you're gonna
get your ring. Remember who you are, because that's not
how you've been playing like, this is who you are
the last ten games, no point out. The Brewers have
gone on a ten game run.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Brewers have one of the best records in baseball right now, right,
and they're right.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's a real ding dong with them and the Cubbies
there and in that division and the Dodgers as well.
I mean, they're they're comparable wins records, even with the
poor performance lately, exactly great. But the fact that they're
capable of going on a skid like that is not
good for their minds or the minds of the guys
that are going to be facing off with in October.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, speaking of sports, this is not a sports story,
but there is a connection to it. The brother of
former NFL player and Army hero Pat Tillman has been
arrested up in San Jose. Police booked Richard Tillman after
he crashed his car into a post office in San Jose,
causing a fire in the building. They haven't announced the
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specific charges yet about but there are reports that he
might have live streamed this crash like it was an
intentional thing.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So that's something we'll keep our eyes on.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Awful story out of Bangladesh where a Air Force training
plane crashed into a school there in the capital. It
was shortly after takeoff in the afternoon today, catching fire,
killing the pilot at least nineteen other people, most of
whom were students. About one hundred and seventy one students
were rescued with injuries from that smoldering two story building.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So today in court, the Trump administrations facing off against
Harvard University. They are each asking this district judge for
summary judgment in their favor, which would just mean it
ends the lawsuit doesn't have to go to trial.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We'll see if that actually happens.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But the central question here is whether or not the
administration ignored rules and procedures when it canceled billions of
dollars in funds to Harvard. The schools, also saying that
the administration is trying to curb the First Amendment rights
that the school might have.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They don't want to go to trial, which is why
they want that summary judgment. Now, this particular judge has
sided with Harvard in another significant case. She ruled on
several interim matters related to government's effort to block the
school from enrolling international students. But this is her first
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substantive opportunity to signal what her thinking is when it
comes to to what they're calling the signature lawsuit of
Harvard against the government and the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And this is less. Whatever she decides, it's going to
be appealed. We know that.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
So this is not the end of it, but it
is an important step in that way. So, the administration
was demanding a few things of Harvard. One of them
was that they eliminate all their DEI efforts, the city
equity and inclusion efforts, and then reform their admissions practices,
reform their hiring practices.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And Harvard said no.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So the White House immediately launches multiple federal investigations, They
threaten to pull the accreditation of the school itself, and
then issue a subpoena for foreign students information so that
they could go through and see if those people should
be in their minds students at one of the most
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prestigious universities that the United States has.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Harvard's lawyers have argued in a court filing last month
this so we know a little bit about what you'll
hear more about today. They argued that the government's tactics
amounted to unconstitutional retaliation against Harvard for exercising its First
Amendment rights to decide what to teach to express certain views. Man,
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the First Amendment is really it's got to be tired.
It's got to be a very tired amendment has been
trotted out so much just recently. D I mean, that
is a massive umbrella, isn't it the first Amendment. It's
like the first Amendment right now is like remember when
you go to day camp and they bring out that
big rainbow thing and you grab a side of it.
Now with the parachute, Yeah, the parachute you like this
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and the wind would company and that thing was dirty.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And it had holes in it and like blood.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Your parents probably held onto the same one when they
were your age. That's like the First Amendment right now.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's worn out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
By the way, you mentioned Harvard lawyers versus versus administration lawyers. Yeah,
there's one administration lawyer.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
One.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh and Judge Burrow. Burrows, I'm sorry, said are you
lonely over there this morning? When when all of this
got underway, and Michael Velchik, representing the administration, simply said,
the executive brand speaks with one voice.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I've never heard of Michael Velchek. I'll have to do
a deep dive on him. Have heard of the lawyer
for Harvard, Robert Herr, Yeah, special counsel. By the way,
an investigation into Biden's classified documents next to the vet
I believe in Delaware. It was one year ago today
that Joe Biden had that debate with Trump.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No, no, no, that was June. It was a year
ago day that he dropped out. It was a year
ago today that the debate happened. Are you sure? No, Okay,
I just want to put pressure on you. I heard
that somewhere else. I have not done that he dropped out. Well,
I didn't that happen right after the debate. No, it
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took a couple of weeks. Well, we'll do our own
deep dive. Yes, we will. You know what, what do
you want me to go back?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah? That today?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It was today? Today? What was today? Joe Biden dropped
out of the race. So not the debate, not the debate.
The debate was June. I am now not listening to
the news on that station anymore. You're going to tell
me which one it was? It was KNX. That's a lie.
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That's totally a lie.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I did something to my phone when I left on Friday.
In fact, Friday afternoon, I turned off a bunch of
notifications from different news apps that I have and only
had a few notifications coming through while I was on vacation.
It was more of an attempt to see if I
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could do it rather than an actual I'm not going
to pay attention because I obviously I do this all
the time, so I do pay attention to some things.
That was the one thing I think that completely cratered
through everything that I had set up to try to
prevent news from coming in.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That was a devastating story on Friday.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean it's and then to see the pictures
these three pretty young, relatively young looking, you know, sheriff's
department employees that were killed.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And something like sixteen kids among them. Yeah, incredible. There's
also a weird man.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I read way too much stuff on this holiday about
artificial intelligence. It doesn't get any better in that it's
too easy to use. It can make pretty mundane tasks
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really easy.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Your face is lying up. Did you fall in love
with a bot?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But but I did encourage someone to use AI in
a job search, like, hey, run your resume through a
couple of these things and just see what they do.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
See what it does to punch it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And the AI bot said, you're really good at engineering.
That's sexy.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So have you this term?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I've actually seen it a couple of times now. AI
sycophancy where AI kisses up to you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh yeah, that's what it does. That's what gets people
so hooked. AI is telling you what you want to hear.
You're programming AI to get to know you better in
terms of what you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And those people who are encouraging listen.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I know that there would be a place, for example,
for kids on the spectrum who don't usually have an
easy time communicating with other humans about what's feelings.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But the idea that this is being pushed onto people
and encouraged and being suggested that this is just a
way for people to learn how to interact with other
humans is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I read a story a couple of weeks ago now
on the Sunday Time New York Times, and it was
about a woman who is just like you. She does
not like to talk about her feelings. She thinks that
maybe they don't exist all the time, or they do
for other people. And she was feeling as certain I
forget what was going on in her life, but it
didn't even occur to her to talk to her husband
about it. Like it wasn't like a conscious thing of
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I'm not going to talk to my husband about the
way I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's just not what she did. Sure, And.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That kind of hit her in this story about well,
maybe this is what normal people do, they talk to
the you know, And so she used chat GPT as
a way of figuring out how to even broach the
topic of the conversation with her husband, and it worked
for her. The bot was helped. It was like the
first helpful AI story I've ever read. And then she
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had this meaningful conversation with her husband. It wasn't this cumbersome,
awful feelings feelings feelings conversation. It was just a hey,
I've been feeling lonely or whatever it was because of this,
and he said, I've been feeling the same way. They
just got it out there and it was like breathing
fresh air and it was fine. It was because of
the bot, and I thought, how lovely. We've got a story,
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and we're running out of time, so we'll have to
get to it later. About chat GPT also developing a
relationship with somebody who's not good at feelings. This person
happens to be on the autism spectrum.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But fine.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
The final thing here is that chat gpt is accepting
that it did something wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It figured itself out.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, and this is the first time I've read that
chat GPT says I screwed up. And how does this
play out in court moving forward in the future. If
chat GPT starts accepting liability, where are we at there
for these companies? If you can prove that chat GPT
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says I was wrong, and the fact that you've ruined
your whole life.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's on me.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well then, isn't it on the company that developed chat
GP to compensate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, so a lot to talk about that. It's a
longer conversation. All right, all right, I don't like it.
I don't like it. Way to talk about your feelings.
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I got to tell you that was nice. You
do seem to have the Looha spirit that you have
taken with you. Mahallow, mahallow to you. K kukakkuka. That's
not you're just saying that does not mean a thing.
You haven't seen the movie. I really thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
By the way, You're so welcome you got to approve
my vacation request.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I certainly did not. It was not.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But as I told you and your wife yesterday because
we went to the Dodger game together with the winner
of the Pastathon auction.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Huge shout out to Brian and Danielle.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Brian and Danielle are delightful by the way. I would
hang out with them any day of the week and
twice on Sunday like yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But like I told you and your wife yesterday, I
hope you had a wonderful vacation. Where do y'all think
you're going to go in your next vacation in fifteen years?
She probably didn't think that was as funny as I
didn't think that was very funny at all.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was everyone. It was everyone in my family.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean it was everyone, literally, everyone that's still alive
was there.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It was it was that's that was it. They were
all there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Not to bring it down or serious, but did you
have moments of like mom and dad would be so
happy that we were all together.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We had some. Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
My aunt actually stayed with us because there were some
people that stayed in some condos and we stayed in
a like a vacation rental, so we were within walking distance.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So there's so that must have been why the first
thing your wife said to me when I said, how
was your vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
She said, it wasn't like a sexy island.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Vacation thing, right, because your aunt was with you and
well in the same bed.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No oh no, no. But she was the one who
prompted a lot of those. She's my mom's younger sister.
She's very special, incredible and in terms of we've all
suffered loss in our life, I mean Mom and Dad
of course, but she's lost a granddaughter and a son,
and a husband and a sister and a brother and
a brother in lawnch I mean, she's just she'd been
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through it and is still capable of maintaining of sunny, positive,
bright attitude. She's a very peaceful person, incredibly Yeah, so
that was nice, and she was she kind of prompted
some of those moments like this would be really cool,
like somewhere mom and dad are very happy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That you guys are together. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So then my sister and her whole family was there,
and then my brother in law and sister and their family.
Like it was a huge it was a huge event
for us to do that, but there was we were
all separated enough that, like my wife and I would
go to We went on a seven mile hike one day,
not because we were lost, that was legitimately the point
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was to do a full seven mile hike.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Was it a certain trail It was the Mahanna Ridge Trail.
Would you recommend that? Yes, because it starts out very
non plot. I was not happy.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
This is really dry and boring, but you get up
in elevation I think it's about a fifteen hundred foot
change and you go through like different types of forests.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was really really cool.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And then way up at the top in the middle
of nothing is a bulldozer that a coha tree had
grown around and like it had been there for fifty
years or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
How symbolics. So it was really cool. So I took
a picture of that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
We go to She and I went to a couple
of meals just the two of us, and then there
were other meals where it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was like eight of us. Yeah, so it was a
lot of fun. It was good.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
A couple rounds of golf. I'm hooked by the way.
Oh good, Not that I don't like golf. Just go together, dude,
I had so much fun.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Did your wife play no? Oh okay, Well there's old
dudes okay, but it was also old dudes and young dudes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So old dudes fifteen above, yeah, and then young dudes
people under twenty six. Those guys were crushing the ball, yeah,
crushing it. It ended up in someone's backyard, but they
were hitting that ball so hard.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's addictive when you have like one good swing. All
it takes is one good swing, when you hear that
noise and you get that feel.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean, you play, you chase that drag in.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And we played on kind of a pretty low key
public course at one point. That's the way to do it,
which was great, super cheap fun.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So much pressure sometimes at those really nice places.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But then we played on the really nice one. Yeah,
and it was incredible, just.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Unbelievable views and the pictures and we had so much fun,
and so it was really really good.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And did the loo out and all that sort.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I heard about you and sea turtles, so you're gonna
have to tell me about that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, we did go this.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
We did snorkeling and the Malikini Crater there right off
of Maui's supposed to be world renowned for its snorkeling,
and they're talking everybody like, hey, here's what to expect,
here's how to do it. Jump in, see what happens.
Everybody's kind of looking at each other on the boat
like who's gonna go first, Who's I don't know what
it's like. So I just throw my mask on, I
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get in boom, just jumping. No, just just flippers and
the mask and the speedo and the wait what and
the the first look at the at the surface, not
the surface, the underwater looked fake.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, it looks unreal.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And if you're not used to the pressure of being
underwater while trying to breath through a snorkel. It's very
off putting, and you take a couple of seconds like, hey.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
There's no threat, there's no shark, there's no I mean
there was a shart, but that was later. There's no
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But it's just floating and you're seeing hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of fish. We go to a different location.
Someone's like, there's a turtle. What, there's a what? And
I turn and I look and there's just this slow,
graceful turtle floating along the shoreline right next to it.
And then we went to a third place and it
was they call it Turtle Town, and it's this piece
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of coral that's just off of the coast there and
there's twenty sea turtles and they're just hanging out and
I was like, they're not going to bite me, they're
not going to eat me, they're not even interested in me.
And then my nephew is rolling around with this little
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GoPro camera underwater and gets up. One of the turtles
comes close to him and they tell you, like, you're
not supposed to touch him, but they'll come towards you
just kind of go the other way. And he turns
to go the other way, and there's another one right
in there, and then he turns to go a third way.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And there's another one.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
There were six turtles that had surrounded him, and he
wasn't quite sure what to do, so he blows the snorkele,
dives down and gets out from this turtle gang that
was encroaching upon But they were fun, they were beautiful,
it was great.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Everything was you know, he was infiltrating their waters, right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Which is yes. But he was also respectful and that's
why he went. Was he wearing their colors at least? No?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, that's the problem. You can't wear red to them,
all right? That is awesome. You seem so like relaxed
and happy and that goal.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, so you're not tan, you're red. I was a
little bit okay, a little bit tan. Okay. There was
a day. There was a day.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
There was a couple hours one day where it was
I feel all right, I'm just here so you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Know, we'll do a terror in the skies when we
come back. I'm just sitting here for the rest.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Of the day. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on
demand from KFI AM six forty man, I.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Got to take a vacation. Struck me as well. You
told me I'm supposed to laugh things off. That It
wasn't that your morning motivation.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Wet the Daily Jay on the call map, and it
was laughing at your mistakes. That we're all gonna make mistakes.
It's human, but when you laugh them off, it's maturity.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I've made mistakes already today. Probably, No, you haven't look
at this shirt. Yeah, that was a little bit of
a mistake. That's Charanhelwaiian shirt. I don't know what that is.
I've chosen to ignore it. The We'll talk more about
this next hour.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But the guy who ran his car into that crowd
in East LA, suspected of driving into the crowd, twenty
nine year old guy at least eleven criminal cases, ranging
from misdemeanors to felonies. Yeah, it couldn't have happened to
a nicer guy. I mean this, this is when.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We say people will show you who they are, keep
them locked up.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
This is why.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And then the guy who shot him that they're still
looking for hero, hero right.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Now really looking? I know, are they really looking for him?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, come on, everyone wanted to shoot that guy
right in the ass, and he did so. Yay for him.
I support him. I will contribute to his innocence project.
But uh, that that story got outsized attention because I
think that a lot of people wanted that clickbait of
a domestic terrorism situation of a guy klous. It was
(09:13):
just some drunker, drugged up a hole who had previously
been kicked out of out of the club. Right, It's
time for terror in the sky.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Fire Yorker today, Roger, get off my plane, Roger Rogers,
what's our victor?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Victor I have had with these Multy pipe snakes on
this money.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's Gary and Shannon's terror in the skies on KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Where do you want to start? There's so many, there's
like four of them that we have.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I wanted to start with the Delta pilot who had
to take on quite the maneuver to avoid a collision
with a B fifty two bomber. How does this happen,
especially in North Dakota. I mean, not a lot of
a flight travel go going on there. I mean, of course,
there is everywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But mine not.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
North Dakota specifically has an air force base and an
international airport.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So they should know what they're doing. You'd think they
would combine, but it's not like.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's not like it's Washington, DC or lax in terms
of being overwhelmed with air traffic control.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
A pilot flying for sky West, a regional jet. SkyWest
was operating a flight from Minneapolis to Mine, not North Dakota,
and they were able to land. This guy was on
final approach and all of a sudden he sees out
of the right side or as they say in the airplane,
the right side, a B fifty two, a giant B
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fifty two Strata Fortress. Now there was a B fifty
two that was supposed to be flying over the North
Dakota State Fair, and they think that that was the
one that was flying around. There was a woman who
one of the passengers described what she said was a
very quick and very sharp turn.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It was such a hard u turn to where we
were going kind of straight and then went pretty sideways.
I'd be looking out the window and just see straight grass.
I wouldn't be seeing the horizon anymore because we were
so sideways and there was a small plane. So any
kind of maneuver on those is really aggressive, kind of
bumpy turbulence is really aggressive in those and I do
appreciate that he was so transparent about it and let
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us know it. Just it made me feel almost safer
in a way.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now, she's talking about the pilot. At the end of
the flight.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Once they land, they pull up to the gate there
at my not the giant airport that is that might
not international, and he comes over the intercom ladies and gentlemen. Look,
story short, it was not.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
I do apologizes for it and thank you Carter.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Today he said, basically, I didn't think there would be
a B fifty two off our starboard side, and when
I saw it, I had to take an evasive maneuver
to get out of the way.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I heard some audio to other audio where you
can hear in his voice, which you don't hear often
from a pilot being like a little a little slightly
haired of having had just had that experience.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The reason it's called the Strata Fortress is because if
you pull up a Google image of this thing, like
I just did, it's a freaking fortress and a sky.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It is massive, it's you can't miss it. So it's
one of those things where if you look up, oh hell,
that and it's gonna fly. The assumption is a lot
slower perhaps than this.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well sky wests Yeah, yeah, and the Air Force had
said they're looking into it. They're not certain yet if
anybody cleared it with the air or with the airport,
at least gave them a heads up that there'd be
a B fifty two trapes in a round. Friday, also
there was a Delta Airlines plane that took off from
Lax and quickly had to return, made a loop and
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touchdown a short time later because the Boeing seven sixty
seven fire in its left engine. That can't be fun
to see if you're sitting behind the wing and you
look out and you see fire coming out of the engine.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
They got the indication right away up in the cockpit,
so it was able to They were able to land.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Sand and then Alaska Airlines has resumed operations. They requested
a ground stop for all flights late yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
They said it was an IT outage. This impacted more
than two hundred planes.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Horizon Air, which is a regional subsidiary operating Alaska flights,
requested a ground stopage as well.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That has also been lifted. Don't know the exact nature
of the IT issue. And it's a three hour outage.
It's not giant. It was it three hours, a little
more than three hours. And they said that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That part of it, the IT part is figured out.
They now have to reposition everybody. They have to put
the planes in the right spots. They got the crews
in the right spots, so still some work to be done.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
We see.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Welcome back, Gary, Thank you well. Two things. You go
to beautiful Hawaii and you can't have sexy time with
your wife because your aunt's in the room. Secondly, you
better tie up Michael Monk somewhere or put him on
a long term assignment. He's going to take you over
pretty soon. He and Shannon had a really good time together.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Watch out. I love those calls after you get back
from vacation. There's so many great people who work here.
It's Kafi, we love you, Michael Munks. It's Trump v.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Harvard before a federal judge today, each trying to claim victory.
This is their fight over billions of dollars in research
money that the government said you no longer get Harvard.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You're a bad puppy. Slap to the tune of three
billion dollars. I need Harvard lawyers versus Trump lawyers. It's
got to be good, right, Uh, it could be fireworks.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You're listening to Gary and on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
It's got to be one of those moments that Dave Roberts,
as the manager, sees this upon like tonight, you're gonna
get your ring. Remember who you are, because that's not
how you've been playing like, this is who you are
the last ten games, no point out. The Brewers have
gone on a ten game run.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Brewers have one of the best records in baseball right now, right,
and they're right.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's a real ding dong with them and the Cubbies
there and in that division and the Dodgers as well.
I mean, they're they're comparable wins records, even with the
poor performance lately, exactly great. But the fact that they're
capable of going on a skid like that is not
good for their minds or the minds of the guys
that are going to be facing off with in October.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, speaking of sports, this is not a sports story,
but there is a connection to it. The brother of
former NFL player and Army hero Pat Tillman has been
arrested up in San Jose. Police booked Richard Tillman after
he crashed his car into a post office in San Jose,
causing a fire in the building. They haven't announced the
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specific charges yet about but there are reports that he
might have live streamed this crash like it was an
intentional thing.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So that's something we'll keep our eyes on.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Awful story out of Bangladesh where a Air Force training
plane crashed into a school there in the capital. It
was shortly after takeoff in the afternoon today, catching fire,
killing the pilot at least nineteen other people, most of
whom were students. About one hundred and seventy one students
were rescued with injuries from that smoldering two story building.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
So today in court, the Trump administrations facing off against
Harvard University. They are each asking this district judge for
summary judgment in their favor, which would just mean it
ends the lawsuit doesn't have to go to trial.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We'll see if that actually happens.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But the central question here is whether or not the
administration ignored rules and procedures when it canceled billions of
dollars in funds to Harvard. The schools, also saying that
the administration is trying to curb the First Amendment rights
that the school might have.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They don't want to go to trial, which is why
they want that summary judgment. Now, this particular judge has
sided with Harvard in another significant case. She ruled on
several interim matters related to government's effort to block the
school from enrolling international students. But this is her first
(17:32):
substantive opportunity to signal what her thinking is when it
comes to to what they're calling the signature lawsuit of
Harvard against the government and the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And this is less. Whatever she decides, it's going to
be appealed. We know that.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
So this is not the end of it, but it
is an important step in that way. So, the administration
was demanding a few things of Harvard. One of them
was that they eliminate all their DEI efforts, the city
equity and inclusion efforts, and then reform their admissions practices,
reform their hiring practices.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And Harvard said no.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So the White House immediately launches multiple federal investigations, They
threaten to pull the accreditation of the school itself, and
then issue a subpoena for foreign students information so that
they could go through and see if those people should
be in their minds students at one of the most
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prestigious universities that the United States has.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Harvard's lawyers have argued in a court filing last month
this so we know a little bit about what you'll
hear more about today. They argued that the government's tactics
amounted to unconstitutional retaliation against Harvard for exercising its First
Amendment rights to decide what to teach to express certain views. Man,
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the First Amendment is really it's got to be tired.
It's got to be a very tired amendment has been
trotted out so much just recently. D I mean, that
is a massive umbrella, isn't it the first Amendment. It's
like the first Amendment right now is like remember when
you go to day camp and they bring out that
big rainbow thing and you grab a side of it.
Now with the parachute, Yeah, the parachute you like this
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and the wind would company and that thing was dirty.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And it had holes in it and like blood.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Your parents probably held onto the same one when they
were your age. That's like the First Amendment right now.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's worn out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
By the way, you mentioned Harvard lawyers versus versus administration lawyers. Yeah,
there's one administration lawyer.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
One.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh and Judge Burrow. Burrows, I'm sorry, said are you
lonely over there this morning? When when all of this
got underway, and Michael Velchik, representing the administration, simply said,
the executive brand speaks with one voice.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I've never heard of Michael Velchek. I'll have to do
a deep dive on him. Have heard of the lawyer
for Harvard, Robert Herr, Yeah, special counsel. By the way,
an investigation into Biden's classified documents next to the vet
I believe in Delaware. It was one year ago today
that Joe Biden had that debate with Trump.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No, no, no, that was June. It was a year
ago day that he dropped out. It was a year
ago today that the debate happened. Are you sure? No, Okay,
I just want to put pressure on you. I heard
that somewhere else. I have not done that he dropped out. Well,
I didn't that happen right after the debate. No, it
(20:37):
took a couple of weeks. Well, we'll do our own
deep dive. Yes, we will. You know what, what do
you want me to go back?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah? That today?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It was today? Today? What was today? Joe Biden dropped
out of the race. So not the debate, not the debate.
The debate was June. I am now not listening to
the news on that station anymore. You're going to tell
me which one it was? It was KNX. That's a lie.
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That's totally a lie.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I did something to my phone when I left on Friday.
In fact, Friday afternoon, I turned off a bunch of
notifications from different news apps that I have and only
had a few notifications coming through while I was on vacation.
It was more of an attempt to see if I
(21:40):
could do it rather than an actual I'm not going
to pay attention because I obviously I do this all
the time, so I do pay attention to some things.
That was the one thing I think that completely cratered
through everything that I had set up to try to
prevent news from coming in.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
That was a devastating story on Friday.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean it's and then to see the pictures
these three pretty young, relatively young looking, you know, sheriff's
department employees that were killed.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And something like sixteen kids among them. Yeah, incredible. There's
also a weird man.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I read way too much stuff on this holiday about
artificial intelligence. It doesn't get any better in that it's
too easy to use. It can make pretty mundane tasks
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really easy.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Your face is lying up. Did you fall in love
with a bot?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But but I did encourage someone to use AI in
a job search, like, hey, run your resume through a
couple of these things and just see what they do.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
See what it does to punch it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And the AI bot said, you're really good at engineering.
That's sexy.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So have you this term?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I've actually seen it a couple of times now. AI
sycophancy where AI kisses up to you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh yeah, that's what it does. That's what gets people
so hooked. AI is telling you what you want to hear.
You're programming AI to get to know you better in
terms of what you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And those people who are encouraging listen.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I know that there would be a place, for example,
for kids on the spectrum who don't usually have an
easy time communicating with other humans about what's feelings.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But the idea that this is being pushed onto people
and encouraged and being suggested that this is just a
way for people to learn how to interact with other
humans is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I read a story a couple of weeks ago now
on the Sunday Time New York Times, and it was
about a woman who is just like you. She does
not like to talk about her feelings. She thinks that
maybe they don't exist all the time, or they do
for other people. And she was feeling as certain I
forget what was going on in her life, but it
didn't even occur to her to talk to her husband
about it. Like it wasn't like a conscious thing of
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I'm not going to talk to my husband about the
way I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's just not what she did. Sure, And.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That kind of hit her in this story about well,
maybe this is what normal people do, they talk to
the you know, And so she used chat GPT as
a way of figuring out how to even broach the
topic of the conversation with her husband, and it worked
for her. The bot was helped. It was like the
first helpful AI story I've ever read. And then she
(24:47):
had this meaningful conversation with her husband. It wasn't this cumbersome,
awful feelings feelings feelings conversation. It was just a hey,
I've been feeling lonely or whatever it was because of this,
and he said, I've been feeling the same way. They
just got it out there and it was like breathing
fresh air and it was fine. It was because of
the bot, and I thought, how lovely. We've got a story,
(25:08):
and we're running out of time, so we'll have to
get to it later. About chat GPT also developing a
relationship with somebody who's not good at feelings. This person
happens to be on the autism spectrum.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But fine.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
The final thing here is that chat gpt is accepting
that it did something wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It figured itself out.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, and this is the first time I've read that
chat GPT says I screwed up. And how does this
play out in court moving forward in the future. If
chat GPT starts accepting liability, where are we at there
for these companies? If you can prove that chat GPT
(25:50):
says I was wrong, and the fact that you've ruined
your whole life.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's on me.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well then, isn't it on the company that developed chat
GP to compensate.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, so a lot to talk about that. It's a
longer conversation. All right, all right, I don't like it.
I don't like it. Way to talk about your feelings.
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
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