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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
There is a story in The Atlantic that describes how
vices in the United States have changed the vice of
americ Vices that exist in American life have changed significantly
over say, the last one hundred and fifty two hundred years.
And there was a startling statistic at the beginning of
this article.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah about the whiskey. Yeah, I know, was there just
nothing to do the huge.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Amount of alcohol that was consumed in the year eighteen
thirty seven point one undiluted gallons of alcohol per year
per person in the United States, which is the equivalent
of at least four shots of eighty proof whiskey every
single day of you water yourself throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know, you have one in the morning, you have
one at lunch, you have one after work and the evening.
But that's based on the entire population of the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you can imagine not all the kids were drinking, right,
that's true, So then you've got to bump up for
the adults. That's like six seven eight average average, six
seven eight average drinks per day back in eighteen thirty. Now,
some of it may have been to fight depression. Some
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of it, like you said, may have simply been because
there was nothing else to do.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But that's just that's also a lot of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I assume that some of that is because it was
much more common.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What else could you get? Though there weren't mohedos, right,
but I.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Mean it was it was much more likely that people
would distill their own whiskeys and things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It was whiskey and it was beer, and those were
kind of your options.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, and a lot has changed since then, right, No.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, no, but that's what I see in the movies.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Americans barely drink now. Compared to that again, in eighteen thirty,
it was more than seven gallons a year average. As
of now, it's about two and a half gallons per
capita per year in the United States now.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Though a Gallup poll released just in August says only
fifty four percent of respondent said they drank it all.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's the lowest that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember, And I'm just in my real life of
people not drinking.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think that, you know, it got.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
To a point for me where I felt like it
was over advertised everywhere you're looking. It was not just
the glamorization of alcohol, but the advertising was everyone's doing it.
It's just as the same as having a glass of
water in the morning and dinner in the evening.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You just drink. It's just what you do.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And it as much as I started drilling down on that,
it's advertising that makes us believe that that's how everyone's living.
And it wasn't until I decided my dry January thing
and I stopped drinking, and I just just started feeling
so much better that I started noticing not that many
people drink.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, when I go out.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
To lunch or dinner with something, maybe somebody will have
a drink, and I'm like, wow, was it always this way?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's just for whatever reason now with its the latest
generations not drinking as much. Weed obviously plays a huge
part in that.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, they do point out that since marijuana was legalized,
I mean, I guess you could argue it's been legal
in California for a long time, but say go back
to twelve thirteen years in twenty twelve, when a bunch
of places in state started legalizing marijuana, sometimes for medicinal use,
sometimes for recreational use. We saw the numbers of people
who would admit at least to using marijuana went way
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up at the same time that those drinking numbers were
going down. And it's not to say necessarily that everybody
who gave up drinking went straight to marijuana. It's because
you can't really determine that correlations now.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's just different habits were formed.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The younger people were not having the habit formed of
drinking all the time much as they were.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The interesting thing about this article is that it refers
to the these vices as being lonely, that this is
something that continues, this trend of people drawing farther and
farther away from that social aspect. Yeah, and marijuana is
one of those things. Obviously you can get high with
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
More people are probably likely to drink in a social
situation than they are by themselves at home.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Bars and restaurants are gathering places for.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Peop and if people aren't gathering, they're not drinking, and
that's where that number goes down.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
They also point to a kind of a small sliver
of that being that it's easy for us to waste
time alone. If you're sitting alone, you have you always
have your phone with you, so you always have something
that you can do that will keep you busy outside
of the socialization. I'm fascinated by the thought of my kids,
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for example, not I don't know how often they take
the bus, but this old fact notion of sitting on
a bus bench right waiting for the bus to come by,
and just striking up a conversation with the person next
to them. I'm fascinated with that mental exercise because I
don't know if either one of my kids they would
be capable of it, yes, but would they think of
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doing it as opposed to like my mom could not
enter a room without talking to everybody. So and then
I'm somewhere in the middle of I know there's a
there's a benefit to me meeting and strangers and talking.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Where you like at bars, I don't see I'm striking
up conversations with strangers.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It depends.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It depends on where there have been instances where I
have the most the most significant one that pops into
my mind when you say it like that. I was
at the Major League Baseball Winter Meetings in Nashville in
two thousand and three. I think it was late two
thousand and three, and I had an extra night in
the hotel, which happened to be a month night. The
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Titans were playing in town, so I could I had
a chance to go to the games. It was like
Eddie George took yeah long ago. I had a chance
to go to the game. I decided not to because
I had to get up early. So I went to
the hotel bar.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It was Warren Moon Titans. I don't know if it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Were anyway go on, but I sat next to a
guy who ended up having worked in radio and I
was working radio at the time. He wasn't working there anymore.
We had a great conversation, right, great guy. The sex
was okay, but mine mid if you will. But but
that was a complete stranger and the only thing we
had in common is that we were there sitting at
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that same bar, watching that same football game on that
same Monday night.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, for no other reason, but that was it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm not I would just as soon be happy to
just sit and watch that whole thing by myself without
saying a word to anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Because I've never seen you, you know, hit on anyone
around here.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That was a stranger. Everybody works here that we all
worked together strangers. It was just a joke. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So I am so old that I thought Warren Moon
was affiliated with the Titans, And I'm going back to
his days with the Oilers because I'm going to go
check into an assisted living well.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
There was a moment where they were the Tennessee Oilers
just I mean, make you feel better.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
This was in the Daily Mail today.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This says that some men who you steroids say the
drugs are coming with an unexpected side effect, a sudden
change and who they are sexually attracted to.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, now, you make a good point before the break.
Aren't we beyond the whole stuff turning people gay? Yes,
And that's a good point because if you remember from
our genderbread person, orientation and behavior are different things. And
this is not saying that they're turning people gay. It's
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saying that steroids make people do gay things. Okay, all right,
So here it is everybody knows that steroids, right, the
synthetic form of testosterone gets you ripped. Long term use, though,
can be linked to side effects the low sperm count,
the shrinking testicles, the rectile dysfunction, the mood swings.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yea, it makes so much fun some of the butt
you get ripped as a result.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Some users reported sudden changes in sexual attraction or urges
while taking steroids, particularly one one kind makes you Want
trend boloone tremdblone trend below.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So you wake up on a Tuesday and you are
married to a female and you're having sexy time with
your lady. By Thursday, you're looking at Bob across the
cubicle and saying, I'd like some of Bob.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, how long does it take? Is my question.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't know, and I don't know how. It depends
on what you do with it. I mean, does once
make you gay?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Steroids disrupt dopamine and serotonin levels in the brain that
can alter the pleasure of the reward seeking, the mood
in the sexual drive. It is so silly and they're
talking about it. It will re rewire and re configure
the chemicals in your brain.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It would have to, and that doesn't sound healthy. There's
other ways to get ripped than changing your brain chemistry.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well, I mean drink a lot of water. It's what
you said last segment, right, that doesn't change your brain chemistry.
You're right, it doesn't. Oh, you mean getting ripped. It
doesn't do that either.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The one bodybuilding coach, a guy named Dave Demasquita, noted
that the dopamine disruption may temporarily shift what feels sexually rewarding.
That could lead to a user questioning their orientation. But again,
it's not these affect your or I should say they
can affect you or behavior, but not the orientation itself.
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You'd be more willing to take risks, you'd be more
likely to potentially step out on a romantic partner.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Higher testosterone typically raises desire. It can change sexual desires, preferences.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And drive, but they can also lead.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Steroids can of the opposite effect in a loss of
sensitivity in men's erections? Does that mean sensitivity in men's
are like? What does a loss of sensitivity? Does that
mean that they don't happen? Or that they happen and
you don't feel like? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah? I think the second one I was going to
wait for you.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
They happen and you don't feel what you used to
feel Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That sucks.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I would imagine if you had a penis. I don't
have one, but I would imagine that sucks.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What, right, am I right? I mean I would know
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, I imagine it feels really good.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, and then when it does and then it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Doesn't like what, it just stops feeling good.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
But again, you chase that dragon.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
This has never been a There's nothing you can put
in your body that doesn't come with some sort of
side effect.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Except for water, going going back to water.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
There's a side effect. You got to use the john
every hour and a half. Yeah, but I'm but there's
the people who used steroids have always known that there
is a potential for these types of side effects, not
always not.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That suddenly like penis stuff that's new. Uh really, I
do feel like there's not new.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, there becomes with it the aggression to the aggression, sorry,
and sometimes the sexual aggression.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And you're just looking to put in anything. Yeah, you
would you know the barn, the barn well.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In Yellowstone one of the cowboys had done on the
substantial amount of time in prison, and he said that
he would put it in the barn, and that would
I forget his name.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Is the guy that plays the guitar. Yeah, he's actually
a really good singer. Yeah, he is really good.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, but he uh he said he put it right
in the barn, like on a hole in the barn.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Oh, not just the barn, No, stick it in the barn.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think he said hole in the wood. Yeah, I
don't know what's a knothole. What do you know what
a knothole in wood is?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I do not. Is it an actual hole or is
it just not in the wood. Well, there's a knot
in the wood, but a lot of times with your hands, Like, honestly,
please stop.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's from where a branch was growing. I'm not looking,
and that chunk will fall out.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You ever heard of a knothole gang, the kids who
would sit on the outside of the fence and look at.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
The leaving.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
This.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Never mind about any going to do it. You just
did it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You told me not to do it in my hands,
and then you just did it with your hands.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, so inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sorry, Omer, now you've made Elmer uncomfortable. Sorry, and Elmer
was named after a clown.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We talk all the time about online amateur sleuths. Some
of them are not operating on the best of intentions,
and that is the subject of today's True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Day Day Day Tuesdayuesday.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The story iseunds true.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Gary and
Shannon present Crime.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Well, you remember those awful murders of the four University
of Idaho students. It was November twenty twenty two. Seems
like a lot longer ago than it was. Well, in
the weeks following those murders, where everyone was left in
this vacuum of non information, a lot of information started
raising its hand, good information or not. Online there was
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a TikTok psychic among them, a TikTok psychic based out
of Texas that accused a respected history professor of orchestrating
the killings to cover up an affair with one of
the victims. She said that her claims were based on
her spiritual research through tarot readings. Okay, now, obviously it
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sounds crazy, preposterous, obviously false. But this woman, in the
process was able to amass one hundred thousand followers. She
developed quite the following on her her fake claims over
the gruesome murders of these four students.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
By the way, the professor that she accused of orchestrating
all of this to hide the affair has sued for
defamation and is going to jury is going to determine
punitive damages coming up February of next year. Federal judge
already ruled in that professor's favor, calling the woman's tiktoks
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primarily self serving, motivated by online viral attention, and made
with an extremely harmful state of mind. Given the nature
of the statements about Professor Rebecca Schofield.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, think about this.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That post was to the tune of two point five
million likes. So every time this professor named Rebecca googles
her own name, it's going to come up Rebecca Showfield,
and then it's going to see murder of University of
Idaho students. Forever, she's always going to be connected.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
True crime content creators as they're called, and other people
who would post on social media about these cases, they're
just posting bs. In many cases, they're just spitballing. And
because we have kind of lost our ability to have
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any sort of examination of what we see online, that
just once you put something out there, it's very tough
for someone who's interested in one of these cases to
trace back what the origin of what a.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Theory might be.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So they may assume that these theories came from official
court documents or interviews with police or other things that
you might see in a real journalist's a real reporter's purview.
But these are just, like I said, stuff that people
throw against the wall to see what sticks. They don't
realize there's no basis to it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
There's nothing to keep a so called sleuth from making
false assertions, ruining lives in the process, just for likes.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So there are that's one of the cases, right, the
Idaho murders, if you remember also the Delphi murders. This
is where thirteen and fourteen year old girls were kidnapped
and killed. And if you remember this was the girls
were able to capture an image of who did it
as he was walking a lot across a railroad trestle.
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And there are all kinds of theories that still exist
to this day. Even though they've already caught the guy
and put the guy in jail forever, the girls' families
have to deal with the repercussions we're talking about on
True Crime Tuesday. These online sleuths who claim that they're
just trying to help solve cases and can actually cause
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a whole lot more damage on top of what's already
been a travesty or a tragedy or both for some
of the people involved.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
The family members of thirteen year old Abby Williams and
fourteen year old Libby German say their lives were nearly
destroyed when the girls were kidnapped and killed. This was
in Delphi, Indiana, back in twenty seventeen. Abby's mom, Anna said,
when you rip a whole piece out of your life,
you'll never be the same. They have shown up at
(18:23):
these conventions, some of the family members which this happens,
and some people find whatever they need to find when
they go on stage at crime con for example twenty
twenty five, this was last month in Denver and tell
their story and maybe it's a way of keeping their
daughter's memories alive. It was at that Crime con convention
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the family member shared memories of the girls, opened up
about their grief, discussed their reaction to the man's conviction
and one hundred and thirty year prison sentence, last year
for the murders. They also talked about what's not always
talked about, and it is that shocking online harassment that
they have endured for years. They said that there are
a certain number of amateur sleuths that are just obsessed
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with solving the case themselves, even at the expense of
traumatize the victims' families, the mothers, interfering with law enforcement investigations.
That was a case that went on solved for more
than five years. And as I mentioned, when you don't
have information for an amount of time, a vacuum exists
and people want to fill it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Plus, the family is in this awkward position of they're
subjected to these online taunts, online theories, outright accusations that
they had something to do with it. But they're still
trying to keep the story in the spotlight. They want
to draw attention to the case because they want any
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lead that's possible, but it comes with just an overflow
of this detritus, this fire hose of all that comes
from social media.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Libby fourteen year old Libby Germans grandma Becky says she
is a most upset by what she calls the vicious
online harassment of Libby's older sister, Kelsey. It was Kelsey
who dropped the girls off at the trail where they
were abducted less than a half an hour later. There's
some out there who are horrible to hear. Grandma Backy says,
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it hurts me to see what they're saying about her.
Say what you will about me, but leave my family alone.
Kelsey tweeted in February after the murders, I'll never understand
how people can be so awful the people they've never met.
And somebody wrote back, stop trying to spin your sister's
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murder into an fing career and go to the police
station right now and.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Come clean again.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I think a lot of this has to do with
this something that computers have done to us in general,
which is lessened our ability to understand there is a
human being on the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
We've seen it on our own.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
People write awful things about us to us on social media.
And if we write back, because we do read that
stuff and it does hurt your feelings, and if we
write back like hey, not cool or wow, you know
that that wasn't that wasn't nice or anything, people will
be quick to pull a one eighty because I don't
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think they understand. There's like this weird veil that comes down,
and as soon as people realize, hey, you hurt somebody
with what you said, it's like, oh, oh, okay, well I.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Didn't mean to do that. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's it's someone standing on the edge of the Grand
Canyon and yelling, right, hello, Hello, hear the echo. But
it's when somebody says something back that they go, oh,
my gosh, I wasn't expecting that. I didn't know there
was somebody down there or over there or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right, It's like when you shout just ridiculous things into
the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know what would you shout? I would shout apple
fritters for days.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And if somebody was like, you shouldn't have apple frinters,
holy mixing.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
A solid, It'll be like, I didn't mean I wanted
apple fritters every day for days. I just meant I
worried one. Right now, it sounds good. Do you know
what Elmer would say? What Rull tied? That's right.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Testosterone is giving women back things that they haven't had
in the Ever, in some cases.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
The couple of women that were.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Documented in an article in the New York Times take
an amount of testosterone that has brought their levels higher
than what women produce naturally at any point in their lifetime.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
This is interesting. Jessica Medina is forty one. She lives
in Orange County. She says, it changed my marriage. She's
got four kids in the house and sex has happened
six times a week. She says, up from how about
never she had to put a lock on the bedroom door,
she said that she and her husband had attended a
marriage kids out right, got.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It just time out? Shouldn't there be a lock on
the door already? Yes? Yes, okay, She.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And her husband had attended a marriage growth group at
church for years, but it took testosterone for their relationship
to be this, the six times a week sex.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
This, she says.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
She's a little less emotional, a little less sentimental than
she used to be. But she doesn't have time for
that kind of thing anyway. It's more like, get stuff done,
handle business, workout, have sex. Every guy is googling testosterone,
and how can I get it delivered to my home
by the closing business?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
How can I get this done right now.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Just as estrogen is a crucial hormone for men, testosterone
is important for women as well instremental and development of
bones and muscles and sexual function. But it peaks in
women in their late teens and early twenties and then
just decline so much so that by the age of
sixty the level of testosterone in many women is about
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half men start out, for example, in young adulthood with
ten times the amount of testosterone of women. As is
evidenced by what you're saying here, I mean, we grow hair,
we think about sex all the time. We grow more hair,
and we think about more sex all the time. And
if those are just two of the things that testosterone
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can be credited with, perhaps that's what you have to
think about. With less available testosterone, women have fewer erotic thoughts,
They have less motivation to pursue sexual pleasure. Some of
the mechanisms that make se feel good don't work as well.
And for men effect experiencing the effects of low testosterone,
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things like low libido, low energy, loss of muscle mass.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The FDA has all kinds of stuff on the market.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Some things are going too far with testosterone. I assume
you've got to kind of play around with what dose
works for you, question Mark.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But there's one woman. She says, I went years with
no sex drive. She's an influencer in Utah. She says
after going on a high dose of testosterone that year,
she rediscovered her attraction to her husband. She said, my
body would heat up just from him walking in the room.
(25:45):
Are you trying to figure out if that's what happens
to your wife?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
When do you walk in through? Okay, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I haven't watched this season that much of Real Housewives
of Orange County, even though I'm a du vote.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Hey, it fell off my radar.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But apparently three of the shows women have described their
testosterone regimens, and so at least one of them. Gretchen
said she had to recently reduce her levels. She had
to take hers down because she was humping everything. Her
co star Jennifer Pedranti commiserated, you'll just hump and hump
and hump away.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
It does. I like her, by the way, the New Housewife, which.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
One Jennifer, This doesn't come without the side effects, though,
and that's the that's the part. What are the side effects, Well,
you turn into a teenage boy. But if you're just
humping your husband, no, that's not all. You become argumentative,
you start growing facial hair, you start more.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Than I'm already growing. I was just a joke for women.
I'm I know it made you very uncomfortable. I'm sorry.
Here's a fun fact about women.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, most of us take the hair off of our
faces at some point.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Sure, it just happens. It's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You don't see it, but it happens. There's a lot
that you don't see. I shouldn't tell you about the
things that you don't see.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
There are things I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Your wife she doesn't do that. Though she's perfect. She
doesn't need to do any of that. I've never seen
her exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There are several studies about testosterone in women. Many women
would have more testosterone in their bodies, but one additional
satisfying sexual encounter for a woman who's currently having none
could be world changing. Just removing the mental blocks that
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so many women experience at the thought of sex might
be enough for some of them. Several countries have come
to the conclusion. In fact, standard dose testosterone cream for
women has been approved in several countries. Cream a cream,
you a bill or a shot or whatever you put
it on like lotion.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh it's just pactical patches along with pills and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You get argumentative, but you're less emotional. What would you
trade off? Would you trade off? Like, you know, because
women usually they tend to be on the side of
emotional versus argumentative.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Would you trade that off? I'm trading I'm not asking you.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm just thinking, like if I think most men would
would handle that, They would rather have the wife that
wants to jump into bed with them all the time
and deal with the arguments as opposed to the wife
that doesn't want to jump into bed with them and
is emotional.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I'm putting words in your mouth, but I don't know.
But again, is this a new This is a new thing.
My grandmother didn't take testosterone to have sexy time with
my grandfather, did she. So we don't know the long
term effects of this.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Again. Yeah, but if you start growing you know, balls
or something, then you'd be grandpa, right.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, Gary Shannon, this is why people come to us
for this doctor's.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
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Speaker 2 (29:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
There is a story in The Atlantic that describes how
vices in the United States have changed the vice of
americ Vices that exist in American life have changed significantly
over say, the last one hundred and fifty two hundred years.
And there was a startling statistic at the beginning of
this article.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah about the whiskey. Yeah, I know, was there just
nothing to do the huge.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Amount of alcohol that was consumed in the year eighteen
thirty seven point one undiluted gallons of alcohol per year
per person in the United States, which is the equivalent
of at least four shots of eighty proof whiskey every
single day of you water yourself throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know, you have one in the morning, you have
one at lunch, you have one after work and the evening.
But that's based on the entire population of the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you can imagine not all the kids were drinking, right,
that's true, So then you've got to bump up for
the adults. That's like six seven eight average average, six
seven eight average drinks per day back in eighteen thirty. Now,
some of it may have been to fight depression. Some
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of it, like you said, may have simply been because
there was nothing else to do.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But that's just that's also a lot of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I assume that some of that is because it was
much more common.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What else could you get? Though there weren't mohedos, right,
but I.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Mean it was it was much more likely that people
would distill their own whiskeys and things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It was whiskey and it was beer, and those were
kind of your options.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, and a lot has changed since then, right, No.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
No, no, but that's what I see in the movies.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Americans barely drink now. Compared to that again, in eighteen thirty,
it was more than seven gallons a year average. As
of now, it's about two and a half gallons per
capita per year in the United States now.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Though a Gallup poll released just in August says only
fifty four percent of respondent said they drank it all.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's the lowest that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I remember, And I'm just in my real life of
people not drinking.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think that, you know, it got.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
To a point for me where I felt like it
was over advertised everywhere you're looking. It was not just
the glamorization of alcohol, but the advertising was everyone's doing it.
It's just as the same as having a glass of
water in the morning and dinner in the evening.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You just drink. It's just what you do.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And it as much as I started drilling down on that,
it's advertising that makes us believe that that's how everyone's living.
And it wasn't until I decided my dry January thing
and I stopped drinking, and I just just started feeling
so much better that I started noticing not that many
people drink.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, when I go out.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
To lunch or dinner with something, maybe somebody will have
a drink, and I'm like, wow, was it always this way?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's just for whatever reason now with its the latest
generations not drinking as much. Weed obviously plays a huge
part in that.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, they do point out that since marijuana was legalized,
I mean, I guess you could argue it's been legal
in California for a long time, but say go back
to twelve thirteen years in twenty twelve, when a bunch
of places in state started legalizing marijuana, sometimes for medicinal use,
sometimes for recreational use. We saw the numbers of people
who would admit at least to using marijuana went way
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up at the same time that those drinking numbers were
going down. And it's not to say necessarily that everybody
who gave up drinking went straight to marijuana. It's because
you can't really determine that correlations now.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's just different habits were formed.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The younger people were not having the habit formed of
drinking all the time much as they were.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The interesting thing about this article is that it refers
to the these vices as being lonely, that this is
something that continues, this trend of people drawing farther and
farther away from that social aspect. Yeah, and marijuana is
one of those things. Obviously you can get high with
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
More people are probably likely to drink in a social
situation than they are by themselves at home.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Bars and restaurants are gathering places for.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Peop and if people aren't gathering, they're not drinking, and
that's where that number goes down.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
They also point to a kind of a small sliver
of that being that it's easy for us to waste
time alone. If you're sitting alone, you have you always
have your phone with you, so you always have something
that you can do that will keep you busy outside
of the socialization. I'm fascinated by the thought of my kids,
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for example, not I don't know how often they take
the bus, but this old fact notion of sitting on
a bus bench right waiting for the bus to come by,
and just striking up a conversation with the person next
to them. I'm fascinated with that mental exercise because I
don't know if either one of my kids they would
be capable of it, yes, but would they think of
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doing it as opposed to like my mom could not
enter a room without talking to everybody. So and then
I'm somewhere in the middle of I know there's a
there's a benefit to me meeting and strangers and talking.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Where you like at bars, I don't see I'm striking
up conversations with strangers.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It depends.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It depends on where there have been instances where I
have the most the most significant one that pops into
my mind when you say it like that. I was
at the Major League Baseball Winter Meetings in Nashville in
two thousand and three. I think it was late two
thousand and three, and I had an extra night in
the hotel, which happened to be a month night. The
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Titans were playing in town, so I could I had
a chance to go to the games. It was like
Eddie George took yeah long ago. I had a chance
to go to the game. I decided not to because
I had to get up early. So I went to
the hotel bar.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It was Warren Moon Titans. I don't know if it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Were anyway go on, but I sat next to a
guy who ended up having worked in radio and I
was working radio at the time. He wasn't working there anymore.
We had a great conversation, right, great guy. The sex
was okay, but mine mid if you will. But but
that was a complete stranger and the only thing we
had in common is that we were there sitting at
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that same bar, watching that same football game on that
same Monday night.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, for no other reason, but that was it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm not I would just as soon be happy to
just sit and watch that whole thing by myself without
saying a word to anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Because I've never seen you, you know, hit on anyone
around here.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That was a stranger. Everybody works here that we all
worked together strangers. It was just a joke. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
So I am so old that I thought Warren Moon
was affiliated with the Titans, And I'm going back to
his days with the Oilers because I'm going to go
check into an assisted living well.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
There was a moment where they were the Tennessee Oilers
just I mean, make you feel better.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
This was in the Daily Mail today.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This says that some men who you steroids say the
drugs are coming with an unexpected side effect, a sudden
change and who they are sexually attracted to.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, now, you make a good point before the break.
Aren't we beyond the whole stuff turning people gay? Yes,
And that's a good point because if you remember from
our genderbread person, orientation and behavior are different things. And
this is not saying that they're turning people gay. It's
(08:03):
saying that steroids make people do gay things. Okay, all right,
So here it is everybody knows that steroids, right, the
synthetic form of testosterone gets you ripped. Long term use, though,
can be linked to side effects the low sperm count,
the shrinking testicles, the rectile dysfunction, the mood swings.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yea, it makes so much fun some of the butt
you get ripped as a result.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Some users reported sudden changes in sexual attraction or urges
while taking steroids, particularly one one kind makes you Want
trend boloone tremdblone trend below.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So you wake up on a Tuesday and you are
married to a female and you're having sexy time with
your lady. By Thursday, you're looking at Bob across the
cubicle and saying, I'd like some of Bob.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Well, how long does it take? Is my question.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't know, and I don't know how. It depends
on what you do with it. I mean, does once
make you gay?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Steroids disrupt dopamine and serotonin levels in the brain that
can alter the pleasure of the reward seeking, the mood
in the sexual drive. It is so silly and they're
talking about it. It will re rewire and re configure
the chemicals in your brain.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It would have to, and that doesn't sound healthy. There's
other ways to get ripped than changing your brain chemistry.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well, I mean drink a lot of water. It's what
you said last segment, right, that doesn't change your brain chemistry.
You're right, it doesn't. Oh, you mean getting ripped. It
doesn't do that either.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The one bodybuilding coach, a guy named Dave Demasquita, noted
that the dopamine disruption may temporarily shift what feels sexually rewarding.
That could lead to a user questioning their orientation. But again,
it's not these affect your or I should say they
can affect you or behavior, but not the orientation itself.
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You'd be more willing to take risks, you'd be more
likely to potentially step out on a romantic partner.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Higher testosterone typically raises desire. It can change sexual desires, preferences.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And drive, but they can also lead.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Steroids can of the opposite effect in a loss of
sensitivity in men's erections? Does that mean sensitivity in men's
are like? What does a loss of sensitivity? Does that
mean that they don't happen? Or that they happen and
you don't feel like? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah? I think the second one I was going to
wait for you.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
They happen and you don't feel what you used to
feel Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
That sucks.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I would imagine if you had a penis. I don't
have one, but I would imagine that sucks.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
What, right, am I right? I mean I would know
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, I imagine it feels really good.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, and then when it does and then it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Doesn't like what, it just stops feeling good.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
But again, you chase that dragon.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
This has never been a There's nothing you can put
in your body that doesn't come with some sort of
side effect.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Except for water, going going back to water.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
There's a side effect. You got to use the john
every hour and a half. Yeah, but I'm but there's
the people who used steroids have always known that there
is a potential for these types of side effects, not
always not.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That suddenly like penis stuff that's new. Uh really, I
do feel like there's not new.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, there becomes with it the aggression to the aggression, sorry,
and sometimes the sexual aggression.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And you're just looking to put in anything. Yeah, you
would you know the barn, the barn well.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In Yellowstone one of the cowboys had done on the
substantial amount of time in prison, and he said that
he would put it in the barn, and that would
I forget his name.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Is the guy that plays the guitar. Yeah, he's actually
a really good singer. Yeah, he is really good.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, but he uh he said he put it right
in the barn, like on a hole in the barn.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Oh, not just the barn, No, stick it in the barn.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I think he said hole in the wood. Yeah, I
don't know what's a knothole. What do you know what
a knothole in wood is?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I do not. Is it an actual hole or is
it just not in the wood. Well, there's a knot
in the wood, but a lot of times with your hands, Like, honestly,
please stop.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's from where a branch was growing. I'm not looking,
and that chunk will fall out.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
That's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You ever heard of a knothole gang, the kids who
would sit on the outside of the fence and look at.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
The leaving.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
This.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Never mind about any going to do it. You just
did it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You told me not to do it in my hands,
and then you just did it with your hands.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, so inappropriate.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sorry, Omer, now you've made Elmer uncomfortable. Sorry, and Elmer
was named after a clown.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We talk all the time about online amateur sleuths. Some
of them are not operating on the best of intentions,
and that is the subject of today's True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Day Day Day Tuesdayuesday.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The story iseunds true.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Gary and
Shannon present Crime.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Well, you remember those awful murders of the four University
of Idaho students. It was November twenty twenty two. Seems
like a lot longer ago than it was. Well, in
the weeks following those murders, where everyone was left in
this vacuum of non information, a lot of information started
raising its hand, good information or not. Online there was
(14:22):
a TikTok psychic among them, a TikTok psychic based out
of Texas that accused a respected history professor of orchestrating
the killings to cover up an affair with one of
the victims. She said that her claims were based on
her spiritual research through tarot readings. Okay, now, obviously it
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sounds crazy, preposterous, obviously false. But this woman, in the
process was able to amass one hundred thousand followers. She
developed quite the following on her her fake claims over
the gruesome murders of these four students.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
By the way, the professor that she accused of orchestrating
all of this to hide the affair has sued for
defamation and is going to jury is going to determine
punitive damages coming up February of next year. Federal judge
already ruled in that professor's favor, calling the woman's tiktoks
(15:25):
primarily self serving, motivated by online viral attention, and made
with an extremely harmful state of mind. Given the nature
of the statements about Professor Rebecca Schofield.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, think about this.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That post was to the tune of two point five
million likes. So every time this professor named Rebecca googles
her own name, it's going to come up Rebecca Showfield,
and then it's going to see murder of University of
Idaho students. Forever, she's always going to be connected.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
True crime content creators as they're called, and other people
who would post on social media about these cases, they're
just posting bs. In many cases, they're just spitballing. And
because we have kind of lost our ability to have
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any sort of examination of what we see online, that
just once you put something out there, it's very tough
for someone who's interested in one of these cases to
trace back what the origin of what a.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Theory might be.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So they may assume that these theories came from official
court documents or interviews with police or other things that
you might see in a real journalist's a real reporter's purview.
But these are just, like I said, stuff that people
throw against the wall to see what sticks. They don't
realize there's no basis to it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
There's nothing to keep a so called sleuth from making
false assertions, ruining lives in the process, just for likes.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So there are that's one of the cases, right, the
Idaho murders, if you remember also the Delphi murders. This
is where thirteen and fourteen year old girls were kidnapped
and killed. And if you remember this was the girls
were able to capture an image of who did it
as he was walking a lot across a railroad trestle.
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And there are all kinds of theories that still exist
to this day. Even though they've already caught the guy
and put the guy in jail forever, the girls' families
have to deal with the repercussions we're talking about on
True Crime Tuesday. These online sleuths who claim that they're
just trying to help solve cases and can actually cause
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a whole lot more damage on top of what's already
been a travesty or a tragedy or both for some
of the people involved.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
The family members of thirteen year old Abby Williams and
fourteen year old Libby German say their lives were nearly
destroyed when the girls were kidnapped and killed. This was
in Delphi, Indiana, back in twenty seventeen. Abby's mom, Anna said,
when you rip a whole piece out of your life,
you'll never be the same. They have shown up at
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these conventions, some of the family members which this happens,
and some people find whatever they need to find when
they go on stage at crime con for example twenty
twenty five, this was last month in Denver and tell
their story and maybe it's a way of keeping their
daughter's memories alive. It was at that Crime con convention
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the family member shared memories of the girls, opened up
about their grief, discussed their reaction to the man's conviction
and one hundred and thirty year prison sentence, last year
for the murders. They also talked about what's not always
talked about, and it is that shocking online harassment that
they have endured for years. They said that there are
a certain number of amateur sleuths that are just obsessed
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with solving the case themselves, even at the expense of
traumatize the victims' families, the mothers, interfering with law enforcement investigations.
That was a case that went on solved for more
than five years. And as I mentioned, when you don't
have information for an amount of time, a vacuum exists
and people want to fill it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Plus, the family is in this awkward position of they're
subjected to these online taunts, online theories, outright accusations that
they had something to do with it. But they're still
trying to keep the story in the spotlight. They want
to draw attention to the case because they want any
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lead that's possible, but it comes with just an overflow
of this detritus, this fire hose of all that comes
from social media.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Libby fourteen year old Libby Germans grandma Becky says she
is a most upset by what she calls the vicious
online harassment of Libby's older sister, Kelsey. It was Kelsey
who dropped the girls off at the trail where they
were abducted less than a half an hour later. There's
some out there who are horrible to hear. Grandma Backy says,
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it hurts me to see what they're saying about her.
Say what you will about me, but leave my family alone.
Kelsey tweeted in February after the murders, I'll never understand
how people can be so awful the people they've never met.
And somebody wrote back, stop trying to spin your sister's
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murder into an fing career and go to the police
station right now and.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Come clean again.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I think a lot of this has to do with
this something that computers have done to us in general,
which is lessened our ability to understand there is a
human being on the other side of that.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
We've seen it on our own.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
People write awful things about us to us on social media.
And if we write back, because we do read that
stuff and it does hurt your feelings, and if we
write back like hey, not cool or wow, you know
that that wasn't that wasn't nice or anything, people will
be quick to pull a one eighty because I don't
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think they understand. There's like this weird veil that comes down,
and as soon as people realize, hey, you hurt somebody
with what you said, it's like, oh, oh, okay, well I.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Didn't mean to do that. You know.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's it's someone standing on the edge of the Grand
Canyon and yelling, right, hello, Hello, hear the echo. But
it's when somebody says something back that they go, oh,
my gosh, I wasn't expecting that. I didn't know there
was somebody down there or over there or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right, It's like when you shout just ridiculous things into
the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You know what would you shout? I would shout apple
fritters for days.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And if somebody was like, you shouldn't have apple frinters,
holy mixing.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
A solid, It'll be like, I didn't mean I wanted
apple fritters every day for days. I just meant I
worried one. Right now, it sounds good. Do you know
what Elmer would say? What Rull tied? That's right.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Testosterone is giving women back things that they haven't had
in the Ever, in some cases.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
The couple of women that were.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Documented in an article in the New York Times take
an amount of testosterone that has brought their levels higher
than what women produce naturally at any point in their lifetime.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
This is interesting. Jessica Medina is forty one. She lives
in Orange County. She says, it changed my marriage. She's
got four kids in the house and sex has happened
six times a week. She says, up from how about
never she had to put a lock on the bedroom door,
she said that she and her husband had attended a
marriage kids out right, got.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It just time out? Shouldn't there be a lock on
the door already? Yes? Yes, okay, She.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And her husband had attended a marriage growth group at
church for years, but it took testosterone for their relationship
to be this, the six times a week sex.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
This, she says.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
She's a little less emotional, a little less sentimental than
she used to be. But she doesn't have time for
that kind of thing anyway. It's more like, get stuff done,
handle business, workout, have sex. Every guy is googling testosterone,
and how can I get it delivered to my home
by the closing business?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
How can I get this done right now.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Just as estrogen is a crucial hormone for men, testosterone
is important for women as well instremental and development of
bones and muscles and sexual function. But it peaks in
women in their late teens and early twenties and then
just decline so much so that by the age of
sixty the level of testosterone in many women is about
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half men start out, for example, in young adulthood with
ten times the amount of testosterone of women. As is
evidenced by what you're saying here, I mean, we grow hair,
we think about sex all the time. We grow more hair,
and we think about more sex all the time. And
if those are just two of the things that testosterone
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can be credited with, perhaps that's what you have to
think about. With less available testosterone, women have fewer erotic thoughts,
They have less motivation to pursue sexual pleasure. Some of
the mechanisms that make se feel good don't work as well.
And for men effect experiencing the effects of low testosterone,
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things like low libido, low energy, loss of muscle mass.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The FDA has all kinds of stuff on the market.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Some things are going too far with testosterone. I assume
you've got to kind of play around with what dose
works for you, question Mark.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But there's one woman. She says, I went years with
no sex drive. She's an influencer in Utah. She says
after going on a high dose of testosterone that year,
she rediscovered her attraction to her husband. She said, my
body would heat up just from him walking in the room.
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Are you trying to figure out if that's what happens
to your wife?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
When do you walk in through? Okay, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I haven't watched this season that much of Real Housewives
of Orange County, even though I'm a du vote.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Hey, it fell off my radar.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But apparently three of the shows women have described their
testosterone regimens, and so at least one of them. Gretchen
said she had to recently reduce her levels. She had
to take hers down because she was humping everything. Her
co star Jennifer Pedranti commiserated, you'll just hump and hump
and hump away.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
It does. I like her, by the way, the New Housewife, which.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
One Jennifer, This doesn't come without the side effects, though,
and that's the that's the part. What are the side effects, Well,
you turn into a teenage boy. But if you're just
humping your husband, no, that's not all. You become argumentative,
you start growing facial hair, you start more.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Than I'm already growing. I was just a joke for women.
I'm I know it made you very uncomfortable. I'm sorry.
Here's a fun fact about women.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes, most of us take the hair off of our
faces at some point.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Sure, it just happens. It's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You don't see it, but it happens. There's a lot
that you don't see. I shouldn't tell you about the
things that you don't see.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
There are things I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Your wife she doesn't do that. Though she's perfect. She
doesn't need to do any of that. I've never seen
her exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There are several studies about testosterone in women. Many women
would have more testosterone in their bodies, but one additional
satisfying sexual encounter for a woman who's currently having none
could be world changing. Just removing the mental blocks that
(27:48):
so many women experience at the thought of sex might
be enough for some of them. Several countries have come
to the conclusion. In fact, standard dose testosterone cream for
women has been approved in several countries. Cream a cream,
you a bill or a shot or whatever you put
it on like lotion.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh it's just pactical patches along with pills and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You get argumentative, but you're less emotional. What would you
trade off? Would you trade off? Like, you know, because
women usually they tend to be on the side of
emotional versus argumentative.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Would you trade that off? I'm trading I'm not asking you.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm just thinking, like if I think most men would
would handle that, They would rather have the wife that
wants to jump into bed with them all the time
and deal with the arguments as opposed to the wife
that doesn't want to jump into bed with them and
is emotional.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I'm putting words in your mouth, but I don't know.
But again, is this a new This is a new thing.
My grandmother didn't take testosterone to have sexy time with
my grandfather, did she. So we don't know the long
term effects of this.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Again. Yeah, but if you start growing you know, balls
or something, then you'd be grandpa, right.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, Gary Shannon, this is why people come to us
for this doctor's.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
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