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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Justin Worsham is here.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
He is host of the Dad Podcast and we talk
things all all things parenting with Justin. Hello, and today
we're having a very delicate conversation about how to talk
to your children about porn. It's in all their pockets,
if they have a cell phone easily accessible, it will
find them in some places even if they're not looking
for it, whether it's friends or just happenstance. And I've
(00:34):
actually talked to you about this. I had a girlfriend.
I have a girlfriend who's got kids, who and her
son at you know, twelve thirteen kind of this just
happened to appear on his phone and she and her
husband had to sit down and talk to him about
what that means, what that is that he saw. And
unfortunately it's not just you know, two people in.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Love, is it? These days?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It is crazy stuff and it's a tough conversation have
Why is that out there? Why am I seeing it?
What does it mean? And why son? You don't want this?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
The common sense media, which is like a nonprofit website
that helps provide like you can if you're gonna take
your kid to a rated R movie, you can go
to Common Sense Media and they'll give you, like the
things that are going to happen that movie, why it's
rated R. They'll get specific without spoiling the movie. So
they have found that when you look at thirteen to
seventeen year olds, the majority, so more than half of
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them have seen porn at some point.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's been there higher than that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I think it is right. I think that a lot
of it has to be unreported.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, I'd be curious if that's a self reported number.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, because technology, like for us, you had the Playboy
fairy that would randomly somehow we had I don't know
how this even ended up, but in my neighborhood there
was a woodpile like tree limbs and somehow, like two
hustler ripped up magazines had found themselves in there, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's what we called it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You guys, you have the Playboy fairy that just somehow
they just get discovered. I had this theory when I
became a father, But so far, the opportunity, for lack
of a better way putting it, has presented itself because
maybe my kids have cell phones and they don't need it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But like I was, like, am I supposed to like
just act full of them?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
My dad had a duffel bag in the closet that
I was looking for Christmas presents and I found one
day after school. But this is and then the other
thing like this is much.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Better than any present. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
That was the comedic brain and me kicked into gear
to try to figure out what like playful title I
could say and then tack on the word eight to
the end, like it's number eight in the.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Series the franchise, like it's Fast and Furious.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
But I immediately got afraid that whatever came up would
first would be inappropriate for radio.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But but I like, I don't know what you guys
think about this.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm not too worried.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
About the pornography and my kids, like I'm sure if
they've partaken in it, I don't. I don't know it hasn't.
I've talked to them about it when they had we
had to talk when they were about eight and five.
I said that, you know, eventually you'll be able to
look up on your computer like.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And you'll be able to see pornography.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And I just want you to know that it's normal,
and I think healthy to have that curiosity is healthy
to do.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
What you're seeing is not normal, That's.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
What I said.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I go, I think it's healthy to want to watch it.
I think it's healthy and fine to watch it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I said.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
But the thing that as your father, I need you
to understand is that whatever you're watching is not an
accurate representation of what sex is like. That's not what
it's supposed to be. And I would encourage you not
to make what when you start having sex feel like
you have to recreate whatever you're seeing.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Right, Uh, there's also a very biological or physiological thing
that happens to your brain when you watch it. Like
it's not just uh, it's not just I watched Star
Wars and thinks that and think that robots can walk
around by their by themselves, or I could use the force,
or that I could use the force so that I
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would pilot an next wing fight or whatever with zero training.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, very ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
But because there, because it is, it is such a
it's a animalistic reaction to it, right, It's it's the
same reason why we crave foods.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We have to have it to survive.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Sex is one of those things is you have to
have to survive, and when you trigger that in your brain,
it wants to go back to that place where it
got it in the first place. Like it if it's
an addiction, well, I mean it can lead to that, yes,
if you're not aware of it when it happens, Like
if your kids got into it and they're like, well,
(04:52):
you know, Dad says it's okay, or Dad says it's natural.
But the feeling is every day I got to go
get more and then, just like an addiction, the normal
stuff doesn't scratch the itch and you start getting weird.
I had that conversation, and that's the kind of that's
the danger of the For some people. It's not a
(05:13):
big deal. For some people, they look at it and
they're like, not my thing, or I don't care, or
I know it's fake or whatever, and they don't get
into that. But I think the concern is the younger
you get into it, that's what rewires your brain and
shows you that that's where to find that kind of satisfaction.
I think the data behind this is probably pretty correlated
(05:34):
with the same kind of data with alcohol, right, Like
they know that if you the more the younger you
have a taste of alcohol for the first time, the
more likely you are to become an alcoholic. I am
not a psychologist, I'm not an expert, but I've always
had this kind of theory that I'm like, but what
if genetically you were already predisposed, and so that just
kind of that's the first step. And I would say
(05:55):
the same thing has to go with pornography, like my dad,
Uh wait.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Your dad your story when we come back?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh sorry, yeah, I hope we're not going to sandbag
your late father addiction.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
To come back, but yeah, maybe Justin Alves in our
Big family Secret.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
We have some minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've been talking with Justin this very very delicate issue
about talking to your kids about pornography and the way
that you frame it. It's hard to keep kids away
from it, especially considering technology these days, and.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's more of.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Giving them the tools to figure out what it is, yeah,
and to figure out how to deal with it if
it's shown to them if they find themselves drawn to it, Like,
how do they then have the tools to deal with
whatever's going on in their head?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I like this guy who they quoted in this article.
He's works at an elementary school in Pennsylvania. His name's Albernakio,
and he calls himself a sexual literacy teacher. So what
he talks about in like when they have the first
Remember when I think when we were young, we all
got split up.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I don't know that they split them up like in
boy and girl classes anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah they did. For our school, they did. Yeah, where
the guys talked to him. And now I think everybody's
all together. And it seems from what I've learned from
my kids at the stuff they've everything is a lot
more vague. Like what it was in my elementary school
was we all got together with one of the six
grade teachers who happened to be my teacher, and he
gave like a quick lesson on like STDs and pregnancy
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and how sex works, and then it was like Q
and A for forty minutes and it was there. What
was great is that even at that time where people
would get made fun of, it seemed like that seemed
to be a very safe space in my opinion. But
it's what he talks about is that he makes the
comparison of like sex being very much like pizza, that
there you can get any variation of toppings and it
(07:59):
depends on what you like, and what you like can
change and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't think that there's going to be a world
that you can let no pineapple, right, No, I like no,
you just that's the swinger of pizzas.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I think that you don't like pineapple, she said, So.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You just pineapple.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's funny. He never has a second couple of months pineapple.
Wait a minute, So anyway, but let's go back. You
be hard before I know, before the before the break,
you were going to say something about your dad.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
My dad, my dad, my dad, my dad.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
When my sister had a party when she turned twenty one,
and my dad never let us have parties at the house,
and so she invited all her friends. Everybody's going to
be drinking. My parents collected everybody's keys. Everybody would of
age that was drinking. That was important to my parents,
and my dad noticed that everybody was just kind of
milling around and hanging out and so he thought it
would be funny if he put an adult film on
the television in the living room, just my dad or
(09:14):
my sister twenty one. It was her twenty first birthday party,
oh boy, and so all of her friends were there,
and he puts on this adult film.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
At his daughter's party. I love that daughter. This story,
I don't didn't make it better.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
No, I could tell you of all the stories I
have about my dad, this is probably what he's very
proud of. He's not going to tap you on the
shoulder for this one, I'm sure from the afterlife, but
he so anyway, he puts it on.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Nobody noticed except for his eight year old son.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Wah.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I was sitting down like watching it intently, and then
he saw he came in from like checking on the
people in the backyard, and he goes, oh, he said,
I have like a vague memory of this. And he goes,
he goes, I just didn't want to freak you out,
and what are you doing? I can scare you because
I didn't want it to be taboo. So he said,
he goes, so, uh, well, what.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You watching side? And I go I had some movie.
I go it's not very good. Yeah, and I go,
but he goes plot, he goes.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
What's it about?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I go, I don't know, but I think this guy
is like a king or whatever, because all of these
women seem to want to take care of him for
some reason.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And that was all I got. He's like, Okay, well
maybe you should go to bed, and I went to bed.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And then there were a couple other times where like
he would forget his adult film in the VHS and
I would come home after school and I put it in.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
I'd see it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think it was because there was regular jokes.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
There was also a lot of conversation that, like, sex
was very much an open topic in my house.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So I don't know, I don't know. It was not
taboo like it was.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And I think I never wrestled with any of that
addiction or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I just looked it up.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Roughly about eleven percent of Americans say that they have
an addiction to porn.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Gary's parents had outside sex even when he was an
adult because they wanted to keep it private.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think that's the end antithesis of private. Well, it
was out at the home. It's on the back porch, right,
what you guys can't see at home.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Is the prideful smirk on Shannon's face that I don't
know if it comes through the radio. I can see
it because I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
If everyone's parents are being thrown under the bus, why
not Gary one's parents out of the bus.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm proud of that. We don't have time for your parents.
What happened? Well, she said that her dad had a drawing. Oh,
that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Why is that bad? That's not bad, It's not horrible.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
No, no, no, no, everyone has the saying he left
him in the bathroom or strewn about the house.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, specifically, not like my dad put a porn on
my birthday party.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Exactly right.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's creepy, especially he was your stepdad.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's just weird.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm beside my shide yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm very excited, you know, I'd say it, twelve year
old me is really happy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, ice Cube is with us. And this is
not a joke. This is real. This is real life.
That's happening to us right now.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And I'd say twelve year old me is super happy
because I mean, nineteen ninety two is big for you
and I both of us.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Do I call Do I call you Cube? Mister Cube?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Call me Cube?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Okay, Cube?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Does anybody call you by your given name?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah? Yeah, family, Yeah, pops, momsie, Okay, Yeah, we're not
there yet, but maybe by the end of the day,
call me Cube. Or you know, if somebody say, oh, shay,
I'm looking for a family member, or check somebody's.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Lost, somebody's lost you in a crowded place.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking for a you know, family member,
or somebody got a check for me.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I love I love the description of you.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Every time I see you, or your name, or any
of the ventures that you've gotten into, they always refer
to you as multi hyphen it. Ice Cube started as
a pously acting production, obviously in a movie producing straight
out of conton. It's two hundred million dollars or something
like internationally, right, you.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Saw all of that? Right, you get to pocket all
of that?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Or I wish universal got something to say about that?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
But also a Big three basketball Yes, several years ago,
eight years ago or so, How did Big three basketball
even become a thing?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Where did it come out of my brain. Yeah, me
and my partner, Jeff Quin, It's we. You know, it
wasn't enough basketball. Kobe had just scored sixty points in
his last game that I missed because I was out
of town shooting a movie. I was, yeah, I was
(13:46):
pee old about it, you know, and I couldn't see
him play no more. Like whoa whoa, whoa whoa? What
world was in it? I had saw this guy for
twenty years, paid money to see him play, and I said, man,
I know he could still play, score sixty points in
his last game. Definitely could still play. And it was like, no,
(14:07):
now he's done. He's done, And I'm like, got to
be a place where guys can play when they still
got it. They might not be able to play eighty
two games or one hundred games in the NBA back
to backs three or four, you know, three games of
four nights, but they can't still play. And that's kind
of how the you know, the ideas started to kind
of germinate or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
When did you fall in love with basketball?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I mean, we don't need to go back to you know,
not to bring back nineteen ninety two, but you know,
when the Lakers beat the SuperSonics, you know, I mean
the they had some good years. You forget about the
SuperSonics in the nineties. They had some good years.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
They were able to.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Contain Michael Jordan for a little bit there. But when
did you fall in love with the game?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I fell in love with basketball when I was five
years old and my brothers were playing in the backyard.
He's nine years older than me, so they were playing
in the backyard and I couldn't play, And you know,
my mother was like, you'll get big enough one day.
You'll get big enough one day. And you know, one
day I got big enough I could actually be on
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the court with them and actually play, because they had
some super rough games back there. So that's when I
fell in love with the game. It was not being
able to play with the bigger kids in the backyard
is where it all started, and I've loved it ever since.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, what is that with older brothers and not being
able to be involved with all the.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Stuff there, even if it's stupid stuff, not cool stuff
like that. Just want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
When you're told no, you can't, that's what you want
more than anything. My brother was in dungeons and dragons.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Don't want that, but I did back then.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, just because you can't they want, but yeah, they
you know. I used to come inside crying to my mother.
You too little, You're knocked over, you know. And uh,
you know, one day I was big enough. Then I
was big enough to beat them. So I really loved it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That was a good day.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, that was a good.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
You guys are a week nine is coming up this
weekend in the Big Three season for this and then
after that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is playoffs, playoffs championship.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, and this weekend all of the games are going
to be into it.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yes, we got four games for the price of one.
Get a chance to see the whole league. Everybody now
all fighting for you know, it's eight teams fighting for
those four spots to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It is a party.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I've heard the stories about Into It Dome. I've heard
what goes on behind the scenes. I've heard about the
party suites. It is like the place to be in
Los Angeles right now.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
This is my first time going in, so I can't
wait to experience. Oh I haven't been in.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, have you heard? Have you heard the stories that
I've heard?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, few. Yeah, definitely, definitely. You know, we were, you know,
definitely grateful that the arena was available, and you know
it's the newest arena in the in the city, so
you know, that's what these players deserve.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You have an architecture background, Yes, is it cool to
you to see something like that?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Of course, you know, just to see you know, I'm
always in awe at, you know, the men that build
this kind of thing. You know, it's you know, it's
always even when I'm on a movie, you know, we
do these big you know, stunts and these big production
set pieces, and I'm always amazed at the men that
(17:27):
put this up in one week and tear it down
the next day and put something up else up. You know,
It's it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Watching you come out of center field at Game two
of the Dodgers Yankees World Series. I get chills thinking
about it. That was a quintessential Los Angeles moment. There
are a few people that embody Los Angeles. You're one
of those people. What was it like for you, even
being who you are, to be able to do that
(17:57):
and to represent the city like that on that day
in a dream?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
You know, I grew up a Dodger fan. I remember
when Gibson hit the home run in the eighties, running
out the house, screaming, you know, the trip it was
like back then, it was me, it was dreh, sir Jinks.
You know, it was all down the street from my
(18:22):
block watching the game. We all ran out the street.
I just remember how how broke we were back then
compared to you know, when Freddie Freeman hit the home
run and everybody's excited. I'm like, it's a whole new day.
But you know, being injected into the game, like, you know,
being able to actually, you know, play and perform and
represent LA and you know, it's just one of those
(18:45):
things you don't even dream of. It's so out there,
you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And you also, this would have been a couple of
years ago to NASCAR at the Coliseum.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, you did a show there too. Very cool. I
had some friends that went and saw that.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So that was the greatest just gathering of you know,
you got Nascar on one side, you got an ice
cube on the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Other, and they were just they love it. They don't
they don't stop.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Talking about it. Was sweet. You know, in the coliseum,
you never think you're gonna see NASCAR in the Coliseum
and it was just a special day. And you know,
I think they got a great reception from that, you know,
and you know, just another thing you never count on.
You know, it's just something that living a dream.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You live in the dream though you Clyde Drexler as
a commissioner for the Big Three. Right now, we're talking
with ice Cube, by the way, who's a founder of
Big Three. Among them many other things that you've done
with your life. You've had the opportunity now to meet
some of the people. I mean, you mentioned Kobe. You've
met Kobe or you had met Kobe. You you have
this this life now where you get to see these
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people that, like you said, you know, back in the eighties,
you watch Kirk Gibson hit this home run and you're
freaking out. And now you get to see some of
these people that you grew up idolizing.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And what's that. I mean, what's saying. I just go
up and give them they props and let them know
how much of a fan I am. And you know,
just like I would do if I wasn't famous, you know,
just give them they props, let them know, you know,
what they meant to me growing up, and you know,
just feeling great that I got a chance to actually
say that to them, you know, speak to them. You know.
(20:31):
It's not just a feeling that I you know, have
in my heart, but I'm able to actually you know,
connect and I know some of these guys now, Like
you know, we talked to Clyde Drexler almost every day.
You know, I see doctor j Iceman every every week.
You know, they you know, we know each other's families.
(20:51):
And it's it's real cool to be able to just get,
you know, into a working relationship and a working environment
with some of these heroes.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
What's it?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like I mentioned, I started listening to your music when
I started paying attention to music, so like early nineties
and and and it opened my eyes.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
To a whole new world.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, and so I feel like when I see you,
I feel like you've been in my whole life because
nobody stops listening to Ice Cubes music, you know, like
you just it's just it's one of those things that endoors.
It's it's I don't even want to say a cult
like following because it was just instant, instant hits and
then it's all stayed. You must always get the feeling
(21:31):
that or people must always have the feeling that they
know you because you have been a big figure their
whole lives.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
If you're my age.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So what's that like when people just feel like they
know you and they don't.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I mean, it's a little strange, but it feels good.
You know. It feels good that people feel like you
part of a family, like they've been knowing you forever, right,
and you know, the reception is always warm, So it's
always cool to be able to to have a conversation.
You know, they say they have things they want to
(22:05):
say to me. You know that they been harboring their
whole life and now they got a chance to say it.
So it feels good to be in that position. You know,
it's better than the other way around.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, it's also from from disparate communities. And we were talking.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
The two of us are from you know, the super
you know, north northern White Northern California. But I remember
who introduced me to straight out of Compton. I remember
buying the cassette. I remember around, yeah, delivering Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I mean more white than that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But listening to this, this whole new genre of music
and this whole new world opening up in front of.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Us, well, you know, we thought it was going to
be underground. You know when we did the music, we
never thought that it would, you know, get into the
mainstream and it's any way, shape or form.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Is that because you didn't think it would get radio play? Yes, yeah,
we thought it was.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
See back then, they used to make all kind of
comedy records, you know, you would have a Eddie Murphy,
you know, comedy Red Fox, Richard Pryor, and we thought,
we thought our records would live in those sections and
never make it to even the rap section or the
you know, hip hop, R and B whatever they wanted.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You were doing it for your friends.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Yeah, we was basically trying to be neighborhood stars. You know.
We was like, nobody cares about what's going on around here,
so let's just wrap about it and you know, maybe
we can get some love from our friends, you know,
on this style of music. And it was just a
total opposite. It just blew up and we was on
(23:48):
this rise, like strapping yourself to a rocket and here
we go.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You've been able to handle all the success you have
kept your head on your shoulders. You're probably the same
guy that you were starting out.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I made a promise to myself when I was young
that I would always recognize myself. You know, when I
look in the mirror, I didn't want to ever see
a different person. So I always just like be myself
and let the chips fall what they may. You know,
sometimes it works out for me. Sometimes it don't. But
I'm fine with that, you know, as long as I
(24:24):
I'm happy with who I am and I'm not. You know,
I live out here, so I can't when you live
in Hollywood, you shouldn't go Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Put it that way.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
You know, you should know you know how to how
to side step some of the stuff that's out here.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Despite all of the stuff that you've done up to
this point, I mean, your future is just as big.
What kind of stuff are you working on for the
for the next chapter for you?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh man? You know, just you know, grow the league,
Grow the league. Also, I have a major tour that
that I'm about to start in September called the Truth
to Power for four Decades of Attitude Tour. So it's
great to be in the game forty years and to
(25:12):
you know, dig into my catalog a little bit. On stage.
This is the biggest production I've ever done in my life,
so I'm proud of it. We're working on Last Friday,
which is a fourth installment of the Friday franch.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Oh my gosh, that's exciting.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
So it's pretty cool. And we got a lot of
other movie projects in different states of development.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Hell as they say, yeah, well it's awesome. It's an
honor to meet you. It's just an absolute privilege. And
like Shannon said, I mean our knowledge of you goes
back thirty years, which is I mean crazy to think
that we're that old.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You haven't aged at all.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I know no, honestly, Like I've been sitting here thinking
the same thing. Where did the time go that you
were in the building and we heard we would have
a shot at interviewing you, And to be honest, I
didn't let myself believe that that was gonna happen because
I didn't want to get excited and then real disappointed
like a little kid.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But then you came around the corner. Che Yeah, and
I'm a fool.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Ice Cube again, Founder of Big three Basketball League and
everything else. There's no time to list it all back
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Justin Worsham is here.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
He is host of the Dad Podcast and we talk
things all all things parenting with Justin. Hello, and today
we're having a very delicate conversation about how to talk
to your children about porn. It's in all their pockets,
if they have a cell phone easily accessible, it will
find them in some places even if they're not looking
for it, whether it's friends or just happenstance. And I've
(00:34):
actually talked to you about this. I had a girlfriend.
I have a girlfriend who's got kids, who and her
son at you know, twelve thirteen kind of this just
happened to appear on his phone and she and her
husband had to sit down and talk to him about
what that means, what that is that he saw. And
unfortunately it's not just you know, two people in.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Love, is it? These days?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It is crazy stuff and it's a tough conversation have
Why is that out there? Why am I seeing it?
What does it mean? And why son? You don't want this?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
The common sense media, which is like a nonprofit website
that helps provide like you can if you're gonna take
your kid to a rated R movie, you can go
to Common Sense Media and they'll give you, like the
things that are going to happen that movie, why it's
rated R. They'll get specific without spoiling the movie. So
they have found that when you look at thirteen to
seventeen year olds, the majority, so more than half of
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them have seen porn at some point.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's been there higher than that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I think it is right. I think that a lot
of it has to be unreported.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, I'd be curious if that's a self reported number.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, because technology, like for us, you had the Playboy
fairy that would randomly somehow we had I don't know
how this even ended up, but in my neighborhood there
was a woodpile like tree limbs and somehow, like two
hustler ripped up magazines had found themselves in there, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's what we called it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You guys, you have the Playboy fairy that just somehow
they just get discovered. I had this theory when I
became a father, But so far, the opportunity, for lack
of a better way putting it, has presented itself because
maybe my kids have cell phones and they don't need it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But like I was, like, am I supposed to like
just act full of them?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
My dad had a duffel bag in the closet that
I was looking for Christmas presents and I found one
day after school. But this is and then the other
thing like this is much.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Better than any present. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
That was the comedic brain and me kicked into gear
to try to figure out what like playful title I
could say and then tack on the word eight to
the end, like it's number eight in the.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Series the franchise, like it's Fast and Furious.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
But I immediately got afraid that whatever came up would
first would be inappropriate for radio.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But but I like, I don't know what you guys
think about this.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm not too worried.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
About the pornography and my kids, like I'm sure if
they've partaken in it, I don't. I don't know it hasn't.
I've talked to them about it when they had we
had to talk when they were about eight and five.
I said that, you know, eventually you'll be able to
look up on your computer like.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And you'll be able to see pornography.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And I just want you to know that it's normal,
and I think healthy to have that curiosity is healthy
to do.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
What you're seeing is not normal, That's.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
What I said.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I go, I think it's healthy to want to watch it.
I think it's healthy and fine to watch it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I said.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
But the thing that as your father, I need you
to understand is that whatever you're watching is not an
accurate representation of what sex is like. That's not what
it's supposed to be. And I would encourage you not
to make what when you start having sex feel like
you have to recreate whatever you're seeing.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Right, Uh, there's also a very biological or physiological thing
that happens to your brain when you watch it. Like
it's not just uh, it's not just I watched Star
Wars and thinks that and think that robots can walk
around by their by themselves, or I could use the force,
or that I could use the force so that I
(04:10):
would pilot an next wing fight or whatever with zero training.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, very ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
But because there, because it is, it is such a
it's a animalistic reaction to it, right, It's it's the
same reason why we crave foods.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We have to have it to survive.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Sex is one of those things is you have to
have to survive, and when you trigger that in your brain,
it wants to go back to that place where it
got it in the first place. Like it if it's
an addiction, well, I mean it can lead to that, yes,
if you're not aware of it when it happens, Like
if your kids got into it and they're like, well,
(04:52):
you know, Dad says it's okay, or Dad says it's natural.
But the feeling is every day I got to go
get more and then, just like an addiction, the normal
stuff doesn't scratch the itch and you start getting weird.
I had that conversation, and that's the kind of that's
the danger of the For some people. It's not a
(05:13):
big deal. For some people, they look at it and
they're like, not my thing, or I don't care, or
I know it's fake or whatever, and they don't get
into that. But I think the concern is the younger
you get into it, that's what rewires your brain and
shows you that that's where to find that kind of satisfaction.
I think the data behind this is probably pretty correlated
(05:34):
with the same kind of data with alcohol, right, Like
they know that if you the more the younger you
have a taste of alcohol for the first time, the
more likely you are to become an alcoholic. I am
not a psychologist, I'm not an expert, but I've always
had this kind of theory that I'm like, but what
if genetically you were already predisposed, and so that just
kind of that's the first step. And I would say
(05:55):
the same thing has to go with pornography, like my dad,
Uh wait.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Your dad your story when we come back?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh sorry, yeah, I hope we're not going to sandbag
your late father addiction.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
To come back, but yeah, maybe Justin Alves in our
Big family Secret.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
We have some minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've been talking with Justin this very very delicate issue
about talking to your kids about pornography and the way
that you frame it. It's hard to keep kids away
from it, especially considering technology these days, and.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's more of.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Giving them the tools to figure out what it is, yeah,
and to figure out how to deal with it if
it's shown to them if they find themselves drawn to it, Like,
how do they then have the tools to deal with
whatever's going on in their head?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I like this guy who they quoted in this article.
He's works at an elementary school in Pennsylvania. His name's Albernakio,
and he calls himself a sexual literacy teacher. So what
he talks about in like when they have the first
Remember when I think when we were young, we all
got split up.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I don't know that they split them up like in
boy and girl classes anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah they did. For our school, they did. Yeah, where
the guys talked to him. And now I think everybody's
all together. And it seems from what I've learned from
my kids at the stuff they've everything is a lot
more vague. Like what it was in my elementary school
was we all got together with one of the six
grade teachers who happened to be my teacher, and he
gave like a quick lesson on like STDs and pregnancy
(07:37):
and how sex works, and then it was like Q
and A for forty minutes and it was there. What
was great is that even at that time where people
would get made fun of, it seemed like that seemed
to be a very safe space in my opinion. But
it's what he talks about is that he makes the
comparison of like sex being very much like pizza, that
there you can get any variation of toppings and it
(07:59):
depends on what you like, and what you like can
change and all that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't think that there's going to be a world
that you can let no pineapple, right, No, I like no,
you just that's the swinger of pizzas.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I think that you don't like pineapple, she said, So.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You just pineapple.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's funny. He never has a second couple of months pineapple.
Wait a minute, So anyway, but let's go back. You
be hard before I know, before the before the break,
you were going to say something about your dad.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
My dad, my dad, my dad, my dad.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
When my sister had a party when she turned twenty one,
and my dad never let us have parties at the house,
and so she invited all her friends. Everybody's going to
be drinking. My parents collected everybody's keys. Everybody would of
age that was drinking. That was important to my parents,
and my dad noticed that everybody was just kind of
milling around and hanging out and so he thought it
would be funny if he put an adult film on
the television in the living room, just my dad or
(09:14):
my sister twenty one. It was her twenty first birthday party,
oh boy, and so all of her friends were there,
and he puts on this adult film.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
At his daughter's party. I love that daughter. This story,
I don't didn't make it better.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
No, I could tell you of all the stories I
have about my dad, this is probably what he's very
proud of. He's not going to tap you on the
shoulder for this one, I'm sure from the afterlife, but
he so anyway, he puts it on.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Nobody noticed except for his eight year old son.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Wah.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I was sitting down like watching it intently, and then
he saw he came in from like checking on the
people in the backyard, and he goes, oh, he said,
I have like a vague memory of this. And he goes,
he goes, I just didn't want to freak you out,
and what are you doing? I can scare you because
I didn't want it to be taboo. So he said,
he goes, so, uh, well, what.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You watching side? And I go I had some movie.
I go it's not very good. Yeah, and I go,
but he goes plot, he goes.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
What's it about?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I go, I don't know, but I think this guy
is like a king or whatever, because all of these
women seem to want to take care of him for
some reason.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And that was all I got. He's like, Okay, well
maybe you should go to bed, and I went to bed.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And then there were a couple other times where like
he would forget his adult film in the VHS and
I would come home after school and I put it in.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
I'd see it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I think it was because there was regular jokes.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
There was also a lot of conversation that, like, sex
was very much an open topic in my house.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So I don't know, I don't know. It was not
taboo like it was.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And I think I never wrestled with any of that
addiction or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I just looked it up.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Roughly about eleven percent of Americans say that they have
an addiction to porn.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Gary's parents had outside sex even when he was an
adult because they wanted to keep it private.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think that's the end antithesis of private. Well, it
was out at the home. It's on the back porch, right,
what you guys can't see at home.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Is the prideful smirk on Shannon's face that I don't
know if it comes through the radio. I can see
it because I've seen it so many times.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
If everyone's parents are being thrown under the bus, why
not Gary one's parents out of the bus.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm proud of that. We don't have time for your parents.
What happened? Well, she said that her dad had a drawing. Oh,
that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Why is that bad? That's not bad, It's not horrible.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
No, no, no, no, everyone has the saying he left
him in the bathroom or strewn about the house.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, specifically, not like my dad put a porn on
my birthday party.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Exactly right.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's creepy, especially he was your stepdad.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's just weird.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm beside my shide yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm very excited, you know, I'd say it, twelve year
old me is really happy.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, ice Cube is with us. And this is
not a joke. This is real. This is real life.
That's happening to us right now.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And I'd say twelve year old me is super happy
because I mean, nineteen ninety two is big for you
and I both of us.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Do I call Do I call you Cube? Mister Cube?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Call me Cube?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Okay, Cube?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Does anybody call you by your given name?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah? Yeah, family, Yeah, pops, momsie, Okay, Yeah, we're not
there yet, but maybe by the end of the day,
call me Cube. Or you know, if somebody say, oh, shay,
I'm looking for a family member, or check somebody's.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Lost, somebody's lost you in a crowded place.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking for a you know, family member,
or somebody got a check for me.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I love I love the description of you.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Every time I see you, or your name, or any
of the ventures that you've gotten into, they always refer
to you as multi hyphen it. Ice Cube started as
a pously acting production, obviously in a movie producing straight
out of conton. It's two hundred million dollars or something
like internationally, right, you.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Saw all of that? Right, you get to pocket all
of that?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Or I wish universal got something to say about that?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
But also a Big three basketball Yes, several years ago,
eight years ago or so, How did Big three basketball
even become a thing?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Where did it come out of my brain. Yeah, me
and my partner, Jeff Quin, It's we. You know, it
wasn't enough basketball. Kobe had just scored sixty points in
his last game that I missed because I was out
of town shooting a movie. I was, yeah, I was
(13:46):
pee old about it, you know, and I couldn't see
him play no more. Like whoa whoa, whoa whoa? What
world was in it? I had saw this guy for
twenty years, paid money to see him play, and I said, man,
I know he could still play, score sixty points in
his last game. Definitely could still play. And it was like, no,
(14:07):
now he's done. He's done, And I'm like, got to
be a place where guys can play when they still
got it. They might not be able to play eighty
two games or one hundred games in the NBA back
to backs three or four, you know, three games of
four nights, but they can't still play. And that's kind
of how the you know, the ideas started to kind
of germinate or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
When did you fall in love with basketball?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I mean, we don't need to go back to you know,
not to bring back nineteen ninety two, but you know,
when the Lakers beat the SuperSonics, you know, I mean
the they had some good years. You forget about the
SuperSonics in the nineties. They had some good years.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
They were able to.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Contain Michael Jordan for a little bit there. But when
did you fall in love with the game?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I fell in love with basketball when I was five
years old and my brothers were playing in the backyard.
He's nine years older than me, so they were playing
in the backyard and I couldn't play, And you know,
my mother was like, you'll get big enough one day.
You'll get big enough one day. And you know, one
day I got big enough I could actually be on
(15:09):
the court with them and actually play, because they had
some super rough games back there. So that's when I
fell in love with the game. It was not being
able to play with the bigger kids in the backyard
is where it all started, and I've loved it ever since.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, what is that with older brothers and not being
able to be involved with all the.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Stuff there, even if it's stupid stuff, not cool stuff
like that. Just want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
When you're told no, you can't, that's what you want
more than anything. My brother was in dungeons and dragons.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Don't want that, but I did back then.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, just because you can't they want, but yeah, they
you know. I used to come inside crying to my mother.
You too little, You're knocked over, you know. And uh,
you know, one day I was big enough. Then I
was big enough to beat them. So I really loved it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That was a good day.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, that was a good.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
You guys are a week nine is coming up this
weekend in the Big Three season for this and then
after that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is playoffs, playoffs championship.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, and this weekend all of the games are going
to be into it.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Yes, we got four games for the price of one.
Get a chance to see the whole league. Everybody now
all fighting for you know, it's eight teams fighting for
those four spots to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
It is a party.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I've heard the stories about Into It Dome. I've heard
what goes on behind the scenes. I've heard about the
party suites. It is like the place to be in
Los Angeles right now.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
This is my first time going in, so I can't
wait to experience. Oh I haven't been in.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, have you heard? Have you heard the stories that
I've heard?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, few. Yeah, definitely, definitely. You know, we were, you know,
definitely grateful that the arena was available, and you know
it's the newest arena in the in the city, so
you know, that's what these players deserve.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You have an architecture background, Yes, is it cool to
you to see something like that?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Of course, you know, just to see you know, I'm
always in awe at, you know, the men that build
this kind of thing. You know, it's you know, it's
always even when I'm on a movie, you know, we
do these big you know, stunts and these big production
set pieces, and I'm always amazed at the men that
(17:27):
put this up in one week and tear it down
the next day and put something up else up. You know,
It's it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Watching you come out of center field at Game two
of the Dodgers Yankees World Series. I get chills thinking
about it. That was a quintessential Los Angeles moment. There
are a few people that embody Los Angeles. You're one
of those people. What was it like for you, even
being who you are, to be able to do that
(17:57):
and to represent the city like that on that day
in a dream?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
You know, I grew up a Dodger fan. I remember
when Gibson hit the home run in the eighties, running
out the house, screaming, you know, the trip it was
like back then, it was me, it was dreh, sir Jinks.
You know, it was all down the street from my
(18:22):
block watching the game. We all ran out the street.
I just remember how how broke we were back then
compared to you know, when Freddie Freeman hit the home
run and everybody's excited. I'm like, it's a whole new day.
But you know, being injected into the game, like, you know,
being able to actually, you know, play and perform and
represent LA and you know, it's just one of those
(18:45):
things you don't even dream of. It's so out there,
you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And you also, this would have been a couple of
years ago to NASCAR at the Coliseum.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, you did a show there too. Very cool. I
had some friends that went and saw that.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So that was the greatest just gathering of you know,
you got Nascar on one side, you got an ice
cube on the.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Other, and they were just they love it. They don't
they don't stop.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Talking about it. Was sweet. You know, in the coliseum,
you never think you're gonna see NASCAR in the Coliseum
and it was just a special day. And you know,
I think they got a great reception from that, you know,
and you know, just another thing you never count on.
You know, it's just something that living a dream.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You live in the dream though you Clyde Drexler as
a commissioner for the Big Three. Right now, we're talking
with ice Cube, by the way, who's a founder of
Big Three. Among them many other things that you've done
with your life. You've had the opportunity now to meet
some of the people. I mean, you mentioned Kobe. You've
met Kobe or you had met Kobe. You you have
this this life now where you get to see these
(19:58):
people that, like you said, you know, back in the eighties,
you watch Kirk Gibson hit this home run and you're
freaking out. And now you get to see some of
these people that you grew up idolizing.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And what's that. I mean, what's saying. I just go
up and give them they props and let them know
how much of a fan I am. And you know,
just like I would do if I wasn't famous, you know,
just give them they props, let them know, you know,
what they meant to me growing up, and you know,
just feeling great that I got a chance to actually
say that to them, you know, speak to them. You know.
(20:31):
It's not just a feeling that I you know, have
in my heart, but I'm able to actually you know,
connect and I know some of these guys now, Like
you know, we talked to Clyde Drexler almost every day.
You know, I see doctor j Iceman every every week.
You know, they you know, we know each other's families.
(20:51):
And it's it's real cool to be able to just get,
you know, into a working relationship and a working environment
with some of these heroes.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
What's it?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like I mentioned, I started listening to your music when
I started paying attention to music, so like early nineties
and and and it opened my eyes.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
To a whole new world.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, and so I feel like when I see you,
I feel like you've been in my whole life because
nobody stops listening to Ice Cubes music, you know, like
you just it's just it's one of those things that endoors.
It's it's I don't even want to say a cult
like following because it was just instant, instant hits and
then it's all stayed. You must always get the feeling
(21:31):
that or people must always have the feeling that they
know you because you have been a big figure their
whole lives.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
If you're my age.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So what's that like when people just feel like they
know you and they don't.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I mean, it's a little strange, but it feels good.
You know. It feels good that people feel like you
part of a family, like they've been knowing you forever, right,
and you know, the reception is always warm, So it's
always cool to be able to to have a conversation.
You know, they say they have things they want to
(22:05):
say to me. You know that they been harboring their
whole life and now they got a chance to say it.
So it feels good to be in that position. You know,
it's better than the other way around.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, it's also from from disparate communities. And we were talking.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
The two of us are from you know, the super
you know, north northern White Northern California. But I remember
who introduced me to straight out of Compton. I remember
buying the cassette. I remember around, yeah, delivering Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I mean more white than that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But listening to this, this whole new genre of music
and this whole new world opening up in front of.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Us, well, you know, we thought it was going to
be underground. You know when we did the music, we
never thought that it would, you know, get into the
mainstream and it's any way, shape or form.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Is that because you didn't think it would get radio play? Yes, yeah,
we thought it was.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
See back then, they used to make all kind of
comedy records, you know, you would have a Eddie Murphy,
you know, comedy Red Fox, Richard Pryor, and we thought,
we thought our records would live in those sections and
never make it to even the rap section or the
you know, hip hop, R and B whatever they wanted.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You were doing it for your friends.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Yeah, we was basically trying to be neighborhood stars. You know.
We was like, nobody cares about what's going on around here,
so let's just wrap about it and you know, maybe
we can get some love from our friends, you know,
on this style of music. And it was just a
total opposite. It just blew up and we was on
(23:48):
this rise, like strapping yourself to a rocket and here
we go.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You've been able to handle all the success you have
kept your head on your shoulders. You're probably the same
guy that you were starting out.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I made a promise to myself when I was young
that I would always recognize myself. You know, when I
look in the mirror, I didn't want to ever see
a different person. So I always just like be myself
and let the chips fall what they may. You know,
sometimes it works out for me. Sometimes it don't. But
I'm fine with that, you know, as long as I
(24:24):
I'm happy with who I am and I'm not. You know,
I live out here, so I can't when you live
in Hollywood, you shouldn't go Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Put it that way.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
You know, you should know you know how to how
to side step some of the stuff that's out here.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Despite all of the stuff that you've done up to
this point, I mean, your future is just as big.
What kind of stuff are you working on for the
for the next chapter for you?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh man? You know, just you know, grow the league,
Grow the league. Also, I have a major tour that
that I'm about to start in September called the Truth
to Power for four Decades of Attitude Tour. So it's
great to be in the game forty years and to
(25:12):
you know, dig into my catalog a little bit. On stage.
This is the biggest production I've ever done in my life,
so I'm proud of it. We're working on Last Friday,
which is a fourth installment of the Friday franch.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Oh my gosh, that's exciting.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
So it's pretty cool. And we got a lot of
other movie projects in different states of development.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Hell as they say, yeah, well it's awesome. It's an
honor to meet you. It's just an absolute privilege. And
like Shannon said, I mean our knowledge of you goes
back thirty years, which is I mean crazy to think
that we're that old.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You haven't aged at all.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I know no, honestly, Like I've been sitting here thinking
the same thing. Where did the time go that you
were in the building and we heard we would have
a shot at interviewing you, And to be honest, I
didn't let myself believe that that was gonna happen because
I didn't want to get excited and then real disappointed
like a little kid.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But then you came around the corner. Che Yeah, and
I'm a fool.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
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