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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Burbank Airport. You said you've uncovered
a bunch of delays.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, if you use the flight aware app, you can
go through and see which flights are supposed to be
taking off. There is a flight to Denver that was
supposed to take off at eight forty been delayed or
didn't take off until eleven twenty. A nine to thirty
flight to Albuquerque was delayed until eleven, flight to Oakland
delayed for an hour and a half. This morning, a
(00:34):
flight to Nashville delayed for almost two hours. And again
these are just this morning from flight Aware. A bunch
of different delays. That's departures. There are a few delays
coming in as well. Yesterday the control tower at Burbank
was temporarily unmanned and some of the flights that had
to be delayed or canceled yesterday. This may be some
(00:57):
of the hangover from that, although you read a statement
from Burbank Airport spokesperson who said things are back to normal.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, I'm not seeing anywhere that there's big flight delays there. Today,
I'm looking on Twitter and all the real time bitch
and moan sites and I haven't seven.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yesterday there were a lot of them and the delays.
They said, as of five o'clock, outgoing flights at Burbank
delayed and average of two hours and thirty one minutes
due not only to the staffing shortages. Of course, the
government shut down means that the air traffic controllers are
not getting paid, but they are still expected to show
up to work. Some of them are calling in sick.
(01:36):
There's also rate run way construction there at Burbanks, so
they're limited in terms of how many planes they can
handle at a time.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know those little bag sizers outside the jetways there
at the gate at the airport. They're going to stop
using those, and they're just going to say, you know what,
because I said, so, why is my bag too big?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Because I said so, I've had.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
One time there was a unit of flight attendant that
had me put my bag in the bag sizer to
show me that my bag was too big.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I was going to Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
You think whose bag is not too big? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
The bag sizers are ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But you know it should be up to the flight
attendant to say, you know what, we're all full here.
You got to check that or what have you? Or
that's too large to fit me overhead.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And I don't like checking bags, but I'm also not
so opposed to the idea of checking a bag.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I guess when you talk about an airport like Burbank,
for example, one of the greatest things is you can
land and be in your friend's card picking you up
from the airport within six minutes of touchdown. I mean
that is that is incredible for an airport in a
major metropolitan area like this, And if you do have
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to wait for luggage, it can take more.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Time, but it's not it's not forever.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And people get so used to doing it the way
they want to do it that in the event that
a flight and it tells them not to, they're gonna
lose their heads. This new initiative, they said, builds on
American airlines boarding enhancements that took effect earlier this year,
including expanded pre boarding for families with kids, extra five
minutes added to boarding time, so new gate technology to
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get to get But.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Is this going to cause.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Less problems or fewer problems when the flight attendant is
the one who gets to say that's too big, and
you say prove it, and they go because I said so.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I mean, your point is, I don't know if it makes.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It any easier getting into getting into your airport airplane
airport airplane.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
All right?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Coming up next, we've got a massive twelve o'clock hour
for True Crime Tuesday. We're going to tackle the ed
Geenes story. And this was the topic of Ryan Murphy's
latest monster series on Netflix. And I gotta say, I
watched the first episode and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I'm gonna watch anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's that dark and that depraved and it's just hard
to watch. And people are are pissed off at Ryan
Murphy saying you went too far here. You're having this
awful person do even more awful things that he didn't
even do for the sake of you making it as
awful as possible. So we'll talk about that coming up
(04:22):
in True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
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Speaker 3 (04:36):
Make us one of your favorites.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You're one of our favorites.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's so beautiful. I love that you're one of our
Why are you lying to people? You don't know that
there could be a serial killer listening right now?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Is he your favorite?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
The guy who called you a C word?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, he's one of my favorite I know he is.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
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Speaker 3 (06:01):
Never mind.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't need to say something mean to you to to.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
To make yourself feel better about I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I was just gonna cover their highlight. What a delight
he is to be around?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Turtleneck?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Do you I'm very big into turtlenecks to you know?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Cover up? Well, I wasn't talking about your shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
There is a I don't even get you can't but
see you're about to launch a salvo against me, and
I I shot first.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I feel like a turtleneck is more like a penis thing? Right?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
What?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Okay? Anyway? Over your time out homeless?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
What oh deer? Right? I think I know what you
were saying.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
This month, the California Island Conservancy has announced a plan
to get rid of the non native deer population on
Santa Catalina.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So I had not even heard that there was a
plan to shoot the deer from the sky. Oh yeah,
And I certainly wasn't understanding that they had changed that
plan to now.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Shoot them from the ground.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, last year the Conservancy was planning to shoot deer
from helicopters. Everybody got pissed at that. That's awful shooting
them from the ground.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's exactly my point. How does that make it better?
They say that deer, why why shoot them at all?
You're asking same. They say that the deer heightened the
wildfire risk by eating the native vegetation, to which I say,
why don't you just relocate them. Send in a ferry
loaded up with deer, two thousand deer, move them into
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my neighborhood. We've got plenty of deer. Whether deer are wonderful,
they are plentiful, They live off of the land.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's it's great. Bring me the deer.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I think you'd better be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You cannot have people going in there and shooting deer
on Catalina. This is not uh, you know, Yellowstone. This
is not an area where people are used to animals
being shot. It's just it's it's not going to go
over wellever. No matter how you take out the deer,
it is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Be a mess.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Would you rather poison them?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I would relocate them. Why can't you relocate them?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I do think it's cost prohibitive to relocate them.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Two thousand of them.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
They're not hamsters.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't care. You know what, where's private money for this?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What? Oh? To relocate?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yah?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Private relocation?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We built the freaking bridge. We built the wildlife bridge
over the one on one.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
La County Fire chief pushes back on the notion that
the deer actually pose a fire hazard. He actually told
Supervisor Janis Han this is in her district, that he
believes they mitigate fire risks by eating vegetation, and the
supervisor then said the Conservancy should attempt to should attempt
every possible alternative before resorting to eradication. So you and
(09:15):
Janis Hahn agree that you should do something else. The
Conservancy says it has considered and ruled out all of
those different options except sterilization, which they said could be
used for some deer around the city of Avalon. Mule
deer were brought in back in the twenties as a
(09:36):
for hunters. Basically, it would you could go out to
Catalina and hunt.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Why wasn't sterilization considered.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I don't know what the lifespan of a deer is,
but why are you just now getting to that solution
as opposed to seeing this being a problem down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I don't know. Well, they used to do or they
still do.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
They do recreationally allow hunters to go out to cat
Lena and kill deer, but there's not enough of them,
and they're not doing enough to curve the population. I know,
I know you are, and I don't know the answer
to that. That's why they're done the avoiding.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Question, just because they're dumb and they didn't think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I don't know if it's that they didn't think
about it. How do you sterilize a deer?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, it can be done. How Well, if it's an option,
then it's something that's done.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean, do you walk up to the deer and
give it a shot of depa.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm not an animal science person I have but if
it's a if it's one of the solutions that they're
coming up with, now it's clearly done. People that are
not too boobs in a radio studio know how to
sterilize an fing deer.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know, I'm just saying, but maybe that's one of
those things that's also cost prohibitive.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You know, if you're sterilizing the male.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All I'm hearing is that you want to go shoot
deer on Catalina. You're like, sign me up, give me
all the rifles, all, take out all the deer.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's all the words I hear coming out.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Of I will be I'll say this, whoever these private
contractors are that get to go in and hunt two
thousand of these deer, that's a good job.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's a good job. You get to camp on Catalina?
Could you made? What a beautiful place to go camping?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Do you want me to tell you what AI has
told me about sterilization a female deer and male deer?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, you wouldn't need to do both, right, Well, can
you choose who would you like?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Let's sterilize the males.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Okay, males are captured and tagged with identifying markers. A
scarring agent is injected through the skin, forming a plug
that prevents sperm flow in the skin. O the deer
is released without altering its behavior. Boom, that sounds pretty
effing simple. How do you capture assuming halves?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's painful to you? To get a shot? That's what
it is, getting a shot? How do you capture eleven deer?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Have to do?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well? You don't do it all together?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, no, I know, but still, I mean, you just
still capture a deer you identify. I get it. You
want to kill the deer. Gary wants to kill.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
The that's their point.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's the they've got going to move you off this mountain.
But it's not a good one to die on. Just booming, Deborah,
did you hear that that Gary wants to Did you
hear about how Gary wants.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
To kill two thousand deer?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah? You know in harmony?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
No, that is Shannon, Yeah, agree with you.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
In fact, John and I have talked about this story
many times on his show, and I say exactly what
you have said. It is so stupid beyond Thank you, Deborah,
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I got you nice to have somebody with sense on.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yes, right, I'm so glad that you have sense as well.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And you were right, Deborah, you are right.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You know, let's get an army of fairies.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I mean, Shannon, you were right about the government shutdown.
By the way you said when the government shut down,
I think a day before the government shut down that
it would come down to air traffic control being an issue.
And look at where we are now. I know prescient.
Debra's prescient.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Thank you, Thank you. At least somebody around here appreciates
I do.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Thank I do.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
All Right, we'll see. I'm going to Gary, Dear Gary
Kills in the break.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Gary, I don't like you anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Tell me about the AI Dead Internet theory.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So this was something that Sam Altman and Alexis Ohanni
and most recently have been talking about the dead Internet,
which is that the Internet's going to be dominated by
fake well, it's going to be dominated by computer created
stuff and not cuman that.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
In fact, it already began that since around twenty sixteen,
the Internet has consisted mainly.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Of bought activity.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
They say it's an intentional effort to control the population
and minimize organic human activity.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So the issue is, among other things, humans have the
ability to create new stuff. And the way that AI
exists now is it can only look backwards and base
its knowledge on stuff that's already happened or things that
have already been created, et cetera. You can prompt it.
(14:42):
I mean, that's the way we've been making songs and these,
you know these the birthday card that we talked about
yesterday that was written for your you know, the brother,
humorous birthday card for your brother.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That relies on knowledge that it's told about.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You have to tell aif to kind of teach AI
to do these things, and everything it creates is based
on that stuff. But when you make a copy of
a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy,
it deteriorates. We've seen that for decades. We learned it
all when we were trying to make mimeographs back in
elementary school. So there's a point where creativity ends and
(15:24):
you're just using old, recycled parts of stuff to make quote,
new stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Fifty one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
A cybersecurity company called Imperva says fifty one percent of
Internet traffic in twenty twenty four was generated by bots
as opposed to humans.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Fifty one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
The total was the first time in a decade that
bot activity surpassed that of humans, and they attributed a
lot of that to the rise of AI and the
large language models, which have simplified the creation and skin
ailing of.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Bots for malicious purposes.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So the University of Zurich deployed AI generated bots into
a specific subreddit, one that's changed my view, to study
whether or not bots could successfully cause people to change
their minds on topics contentious topics. The reddit responded by
(16:24):
kicking out those bots. They didn't want that to happen.
And as of right now, we have not actually seen
the results of what the University of Zurich study came
up with. Because if it found that bots were able
to change human thoughts human behaviors, that's the beginning of
(16:45):
the end. If for some reason, but if some reason.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
People are very impressionable.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Well, I mean, if it comes up with its own
reason to start influencing human behaviors.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
People that control the bots have their reasons to control
human right, But.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
There are safeguards against that. We could always kill those people.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And you can't kill those people, but you could. People
are in Silicon Valley and they've been doing this to
you for years.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But use the example of that mister Rogers Tupac video
that we were talking about earlier this week. Hilarious, entertaining, right,
don't like it, but it was prompted by a human
being saying put mister Rogers and Tupac having a conversation
about wrapping that's entertainment. If you did something to I
(17:38):
referenced it earlier in the week, like what the war
of the world's moment would be when AI generates something
that is so believable and so potentially damaging that we
all rise up, whatever that means humans within a specific country,
we rise up and overthrow the government something.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
What is that? And how far away are we from
that being a reality?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So, for instance, we're at October fifteenth, if Atlas AI Atlas,
what is it called?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Three I Atlas?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Three three I at list comes and we start getting
we're inundated with the Internet telling us that it landed
in Sandusky, Ohio, sure, and that they're starting to kick
the aliens are starting to they've landed and they are multiplying.
They have a power to multiply, and they're killing all
the humans in sight. And Sandusky, Ohio needs help like
(18:33):
they cannot. They are overpowered by the aliens. We've got
to all hands on deck to Sandusky, Idaho right now.
We got to go grab your vehicles, grab your guns,
grab all of this. We need every we need America. Like,
how many people if we're inundated on TikTok and Twitter
and everything and AFI news articles, how much of a
(18:57):
response would you get?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's what I'm saying this. I don't think it's out
of the realm of possibilities something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't either, And that they could have enough control
over the Internet to just completely blanket it with coverage
of this and then guess what, they also have the
power to flip the switch, so suddenly your phones don't
have Internet, Wi Fi down, phone doesn't have interact. Everyone's
going to Sandusky, Idaho, aren't.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You or Ohio? Or what did I say Ohio?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Ohio?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Or you said Idaho just.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The last time I meant Ohio, or maybe there's confusion
about which Sandusky.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I don't think there is one.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I think there's just just the one.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But again, I don't think we're that far out of that.
I don't waste so either.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I think that could literally happen, and as much two weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Think about how much doubt has been sown.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Amongst the population when it comes to what the government
tells us, and what if you can believe it? If
you can't believe it, can you trust it? And do
you not trust anyone?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And we talked earlier about how most of the things
you read articles are done by AI. It's not a
real person. They're going to tell you whatever they want
you to believe. You can believe us and chemtrails.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Let me tell you about your skin retinal. I've seen
I've seen the word all over the place. My wife
has retinal.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You don't put anything on your skin?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Oh, thank you? You just yes? This glow is natural.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You don't put face lotion on or anything?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Why not? Because I what do you want me to do?
I don't know what people want from I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Listen, if it was good enough for my grandpa, it's
probably good enough, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But things technology, lotion technology, men's lotion technology.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yes, I always progressed.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
If I was super concerned about my skin, which I'm
not because I don't work outside all day. Guys who
do that should probably put your on screen all the time,
that's true, and have to be more aware of it.
I can't believe that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It just might feel nice in the morning after you
wash your face or shaved to put on some lotion.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
It feels fine when I shave. After my shave, it
feels fine.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay. Anyway, I just think that's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Such a funny thing that there's an expectation that people
that that, and we did. We talked about this oneth
Ago or whatever it was, and guys were like, you
got to put stuff on your face.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I don't have to, And I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Not right, you just I just you know, you might might.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like it, right, and then I'll look like Channing Tatum
in that movie.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's not Long you go for the Moon.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Just a little moisturizer once in a while.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Do you has have you ever looked at my face? Yes,
since you get to look at every day and you're like, oh,
he could use a little bit of retin sometimes.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, not retinal.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
You don't need a moisturizer.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I would.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I just like, I just think moisturizer is good.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
My husband uses like a vino or something like something
not fufu at all.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I just never have known anyone that didn't put anything
on their face, Like my dad would put stuff on
his face like after sha.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's more of a cologne than this ringing.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I don't even know what it does.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
It's supposed to tighten up your pores your.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, you don't use that as either.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You just raw dog that that face with your with
your soap.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The thing I put on soap and shaving cream or
sunscreen if I'm out in the sun. But that I mean,
that doesn't It hasn't happened for weeks months. Retinol is
vitamin A. It's a fat soluble vitamin and the vitamin
A family found.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Any food angry vitamin A?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Jacob, do you put stuff on your face since you're
the other man here?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Just lotion? Lotion? But see that's the thing. That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, Now it's retinal is supposed to It's supposed to
reduce wrinkles and other effects of skin aging.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It does work, but just don't get fooled because the
beauty industry is such a racket, isn't it. Try to
think that you're try to get you to think if
you're paying more, it's a better product. Retinyl kind of
works the same in everything, so you know, you can
get it more concentrated or what have you, but you
shouldn't be paying more than you know, twenty bucks for it.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I have a retinyl tip.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yeah, so retne is really expensive if you get that
as a prescription, but you can get the generic version
called retinoen.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I think it's called no tretonoen something like that.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
It's ten bucks and it is a prescription, but you
can ask your dermatologist say, hey, instead of retine, and
it's basically it's retine. It's the active ingredient ingredient of retnee,
and it's thretonoen.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So that's a good tip.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
My favorite retinyl product you can get it at Target
for about twenty bucks. It's the roc retinal anti aging
retinal face serum and it works. Man, I've tried. I'm like,
I got that years ago and I'm like, this works
pretty well. And then I thought, well, if the one
(24:11):
from CVS works, well, I'll try the other ones. They
must be even better. And then I was the idiot
that was overpaying for the same product that I could
have gotten along at the CVS.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Does it have I've gone back to it several times.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Does it have to be applied to the skin or
can you get it through your diet?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, it has to be applied to the skin because.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
You can get vitamin A from foods.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's not just vitamin A.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Well, it's just yes.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But see, now you're selling me on this, and I'm
not sure I need to be. You don't need like
a wrinkle cream. You don't have wrinkles, So then why
am I putting stuff on my face.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It's moisturizer that I'm recommending, not retinal, just a simple lotion.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Retinoids are found naturally in foods, but foods that come
from animals, sorry, Debra. Cod liver oil, butter liver from beef, pork, chicken, turkey, whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Eggs and cheese and milk.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Are all sources of the retinoids that can be found
in that vitamination.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, don't get me wrong, You're luminous, glowy. Would
you say glowy?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think if you want the glow, you need to
put the lotion on your face.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It puts the lotion on its body, gets the hoses,
so retinal now it's exploding, right, So they're they're they're
doing body lotions and everything.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And the whole point of the article was do you
really need to put retinal on your shins? Well, it
wouldn't hurt, which I would say there is probably just
trying to overcharge you for lotion.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You can, you can od on it too well anything.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Basically it does make the skin I think thinner or
something like that. So if you exfoliate, then you're freaking
slathering on retinal.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
That's probably not a great move.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Retinal is often you use to reduce the risk of
complications in measles patients.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Interesting, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I didn't know that either. Look at you learned so
many things.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Things here you know what I have.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Some I have some moisturizer right here. It's brand new,
and you should. You could put it on your face.
I haven't even opened it yet.
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on the iHeartRadio app. Burbank Airport. You said you've uncovered
a bunch of delays.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, if you use the flight aware app, you can
go through and see which flights are supposed to be
taking off. There is a flight to Denver that was
supposed to take off at eight forty been delayed or
didn't take off until eleven twenty. A nine to thirty
flight to Albuquerque was delayed until eleven, flight to Oakland
delayed for an hour and a half. This morning, a
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flight to Nashville delayed for almost two hours. And again
these are just this morning from flight Aware. A bunch
of different delays. That's departures. There are a few delays
coming in as well. Yesterday the control tower at Burbank
was temporarily unmanned and some of the flights that had
to be delayed or canceled yesterday. This may be some
(00:57):
of the hangover from that, although you read a statement
from Burbank Airport spokesperson who said things are back to normal.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, I'm not seeing anywhere that there's big flight delays there. Today,
I'm looking on Twitter and all the real time bitch
and moan sites and I haven't seven.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yesterday there were a lot of them and the delays.
They said, as of five o'clock, outgoing flights at Burbank
delayed and average of two hours and thirty one minutes
due not only to the staffing shortages. Of course, the
government shut down means that the air traffic controllers are
not getting paid, but they are still expected to show
up to work. Some of them are calling in sick.
(01:36):
There's also rate run way construction there at Burbanks, so
they're limited in terms of how many planes they can
handle at a time.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know those little bag sizers outside the jetways there
at the gate at the airport. They're going to stop
using those, and they're just going to say, you know what,
because I said, so, why is my bag too big?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Because I said so, I've had.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
One time there was a unit of flight attendant that
had me put my bag in the bag sizer to
show me that my bag was too big.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I was going to Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
You think whose bag is not too big? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
The bag sizers are ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But you know it should be up to the flight
attendant to say, you know what, we're all full here.
You got to check that or what have you? Or
that's too large to fit me overhead.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And I don't like checking bags, but I'm also not
so opposed to the idea of checking a bag.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I guess when you talk about an airport like Burbank,
for example, one of the greatest things is you can
land and be in your friend's card picking you up
from the airport within six minutes of touchdown. I mean
that is that is incredible for an airport in a
major metropolitan area like this, And if you do have
(02:49):
to wait for luggage, it can take more.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Time, but it's not it's not forever.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And people get so used to doing it the way
they want to do it that in the event that
a flight and it tells them not to, they're gonna
lose their heads. This new initiative, they said, builds on
American airlines boarding enhancements that took effect earlier this year,
including expanded pre boarding for families with kids, extra five
minutes added to boarding time, so new gate technology to
(03:17):
get to get But.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Is this going to cause.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Less problems or fewer problems when the flight attendant is
the one who gets to say that's too big, and
you say prove it, and they go because I said so.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I mean, your point is, I don't know if it makes.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It any easier getting into getting into your airport airplane
airport airplane.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
All right?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Coming up next, we've got a massive twelve o'clock hour
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Geenes story. And this was the topic of Ryan Murphy's
latest monster series on Netflix. And I gotta say, I
watched the first episode and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I'm gonna watch anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's that dark and that depraved and it's just hard
to watch. And people are are pissed off at Ryan
Murphy saying you went too far here. You're having this
awful person do even more awful things that he didn't
even do for the sake of you making it as
awful as possible. So we'll talk about that coming up
(04:22):
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The guy who called you a C word?
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Speaker 3 (06:01):
Never mind.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't need to say something mean to you to to.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
To make yourself feel better about I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I was just gonna cover their highlight. What a delight
he is to be around?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Turtleneck?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Do you I'm very big into turtlenecks to you know?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Cover up? Well, I wasn't talking about your shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
There is a I don't even get you can't but
see you're about to launch a salvo against me, and
I I shot first.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I feel like a turtleneck is more like a penis thing? Right?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
What?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Okay? Anyway? Over your time out homeless?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
What oh deer? Right? I think I know what you
were saying.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
This month, the California Island Conservancy has announced a plan
to get rid of the non native deer population on
Santa Catalina.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So I had not even heard that there was a
plan to shoot the deer from the sky. Oh yeah,
And I certainly wasn't understanding that they had changed that
plan to now.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Shoot them from the ground.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, last year the Conservancy was planning to shoot deer
from helicopters. Everybody got pissed at that. That's awful shooting
them from the ground.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's exactly my point. How does that make it better?
They say that deer, why why shoot them at all?
You're asking same. They say that the deer heightened the
wildfire risk by eating the native vegetation, to which I say,
why don't you just relocate them. Send in a ferry
loaded up with deer, two thousand deer, move them into
(07:48):
my neighborhood. We've got plenty of deer. Whether deer are wonderful,
they are plentiful, They live off of the land.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
It's it's great. Bring me the deer.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I think you'd better be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
You cannot have people going in there and shooting deer
on Catalina. This is not uh, you know, Yellowstone. This
is not an area where people are used to animals
being shot. It's just it's it's not going to go
over wellever. No matter how you take out the deer,
it is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Be a mess.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Would you rather poison them?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I would relocate them. Why can't you relocate them?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I do think it's cost prohibitive to relocate them.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Two thousand of them.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
They're not hamsters.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't care. You know what, where's private money for this?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What? Oh? To relocate?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yah?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Private relocation?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We built the freaking bridge. We built the wildlife bridge
over the one on one.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
La County Fire chief pushes back on the notion that
the deer actually pose a fire hazard. He actually told
Supervisor Janis Han this is in her district, that he
believes they mitigate fire risks by eating vegetation, and the
supervisor then said the Conservancy should attempt to should attempt
every possible alternative before resorting to eradication. So you and
(09:15):
Janis Hahn agree that you should do something else. The
Conservancy says it has considered and ruled out all of
those different options except sterilization, which they said could be
used for some deer around the city of Avalon. Mule
deer were brought in back in the twenties as a
(09:36):
for hunters. Basically, it would you could go out to
Catalina and hunt.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Why wasn't sterilization considered.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I don't know what the lifespan of a deer is,
but why are you just now getting to that solution
as opposed to seeing this being a problem down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I don't know. Well, they used to do or they
still do.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
They do recreationally allow hunters to go out to cat
Lena and kill deer, but there's not enough of them,
and they're not doing enough to curve the population. I know,
I know you are, and I don't know the answer
to that. That's why they're done the avoiding.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Question, just because they're dumb and they didn't think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I don't know if it's that they didn't think
about it. How do you sterilize a deer?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, it can be done. How Well, if it's an option,
then it's something that's done.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean, do you walk up to the deer and
give it a shot of depa.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm not an animal science person I have but if
it's a if it's one of the solutions that they're
coming up with, now it's clearly done. People that are
not too boobs in a radio studio know how to
sterilize an fing deer.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know, I'm just saying, but maybe that's one of
those things that's also cost prohibitive.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You know, if you're sterilizing the male.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All I'm hearing is that you want to go shoot
deer on Catalina. You're like, sign me up, give me
all the rifles, all, take out all the deer.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's all the words I hear coming out.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Of I will be I'll say this, whoever these private
contractors are that get to go in and hunt two
thousand of these deer, that's a good job.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's a good job. You get to camp on Catalina?
Could you made? What a beautiful place to go camping?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Do you want me to tell you what AI has
told me about sterilization a female deer and male deer?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, you wouldn't need to do both, right, Well, can
you choose who would you like?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Let's sterilize the males.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Okay, males are captured and tagged with identifying markers. A
scarring agent is injected through the skin, forming a plug
that prevents sperm flow in the skin. O the deer
is released without altering its behavior. Boom, that sounds pretty
effing simple. How do you capture assuming halves?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's painful to you? To get a shot? That's what
it is, getting a shot? How do you capture eleven deer?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Have to do?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well? You don't do it all together?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, no, I know, but still, I mean, you just
still capture a deer you identify. I get it. You
want to kill the deer. Gary wants to kill.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
The that's their point.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's the they've got going to move you off this mountain.
But it's not a good one to die on. Just booming, Deborah,
did you hear that that Gary wants to Did you
hear about how Gary wants.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
To kill two thousand deer?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah? You know in harmony?
Speaker 6 (12:29):
No, that is Shannon, Yeah, agree with you.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
In fact, John and I have talked about this story
many times on his show, and I say exactly what
you have said. It is so stupid beyond Thank you, Deborah,
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I got you nice to have somebody with sense on.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yes, right, I'm so glad that you have sense as well.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And you were right, Deborah, you are right.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You know, let's get an army of fairies.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I mean, Shannon, you were right about the government shutdown.
By the way you said when the government shut down,
I think a day before the government shut down that
it would come down to air traffic control being an issue.
And look at where we are now. I know prescient.
Debra's prescient.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Thank you, Thank you. At least somebody around here appreciates
I do.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Thank I do.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
All Right, we'll see. I'm going to Gary, Dear Gary
Kills in the break.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Gary, I don't like you anymore.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Tell me about the AI Dead Internet theory.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So this was something that Sam Altman and Alexis Ohanni
and most recently have been talking about the dead Internet,
which is that the Internet's going to be dominated by
fake well, it's going to be dominated by computer created
stuff and not cuman that.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
In fact, it already began that since around twenty sixteen,
the Internet has consisted mainly.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Of bought activity.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
They say it's an intentional effort to control the population
and minimize organic human activity.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So the issue is, among other things, humans have the
ability to create new stuff. And the way that AI
exists now is it can only look backwards and base
its knowledge on stuff that's already happened or things that
have already been created, et cetera. You can prompt it.
(14:42):
I mean, that's the way we've been making songs and these,
you know these the birthday card that we talked about
yesterday that was written for your you know, the brother,
humorous birthday card for your brother.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That relies on knowledge that it's told about.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You have to tell aif to kind of teach AI
to do these things, and everything it creates is based
on that stuff. But when you make a copy of
a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy,
it deteriorates. We've seen that for decades. We learned it
all when we were trying to make mimeographs back in
elementary school. So there's a point where creativity ends and
(15:24):
you're just using old, recycled parts of stuff to make quote,
new stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Fifty one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
A cybersecurity company called Imperva says fifty one percent of
Internet traffic in twenty twenty four was generated by bots
as opposed to humans.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Fifty one percent.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
The total was the first time in a decade that
bot activity surpassed that of humans, and they attributed a
lot of that to the rise of AI and the
large language models, which have simplified the creation and skin
ailing of.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Bots for malicious purposes.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So the University of Zurich deployed AI generated bots into
a specific subreddit, one that's changed my view, to study
whether or not bots could successfully cause people to change
their minds on topics contentious topics. The reddit responded by
(16:24):
kicking out those bots. They didn't want that to happen.
And as of right now, we have not actually seen
the results of what the University of Zurich study came
up with. Because if it found that bots were able
to change human thoughts human behaviors, that's the beginning of
(16:45):
the end. If for some reason, but if some reason.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
People are very impressionable.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Well, I mean, if it comes up with its own
reason to start influencing human behaviors.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
People that control the bots have their reasons to control
human right, But.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
There are safeguards against that. We could always kill those people.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And you can't kill those people, but you could. People
are in Silicon Valley and they've been doing this to
you for years.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But use the example of that mister Rogers Tupac video
that we were talking about earlier this week. Hilarious, entertaining, right,
don't like it, but it was prompted by a human
being saying put mister Rogers and Tupac having a conversation
about wrapping that's entertainment. If you did something to I
(17:38):
referenced it earlier in the week, like what the war
of the world's moment would be when AI generates something
that is so believable and so potentially damaging that we
all rise up, whatever that means humans within a specific country,
we rise up and overthrow the government something.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
What is that? And how far away are we from
that being a reality?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So, for instance, we're at October fifteenth, if Atlas AI Atlas,
what is it called?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Three I Atlas?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Three three I at list comes and we start getting
we're inundated with the Internet telling us that it landed
in Sandusky, Ohio, sure, and that they're starting to kick
the aliens are starting to they've landed and they are multiplying.
They have a power to multiply, and they're killing all
the humans in sight. And Sandusky, Ohio needs help like
(18:33):
they cannot. They are overpowered by the aliens. We've got
to all hands on deck to Sandusky, Idaho right now.
We got to go grab your vehicles, grab your guns,
grab all of this. We need every we need America. Like,
how many people if we're inundated on TikTok and Twitter
and everything and AFI news articles, how much of a
(18:57):
response would you get?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's what I'm saying this. I don't think it's out
of the realm of possibilities something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't either, And that they could have enough control
over the Internet to just completely blanket it with coverage
of this and then guess what, they also have the
power to flip the switch, so suddenly your phones don't
have Internet, Wi Fi down, phone doesn't have interact. Everyone's
going to Sandusky, Idaho, aren't.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You or Ohio? Or what did I say Ohio?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Ohio?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Or you said Idaho just.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The last time I meant Ohio, or maybe there's confusion
about which Sandusky.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I don't think there is one.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I think there's just just the one.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But again, I don't think we're that far out of that.
I don't waste so either.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I think that could literally happen, and as much two weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Think about how much doubt has been sown.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Amongst the population when it comes to what the government
tells us, and what if you can believe it? If
you can't believe it, can you trust it? And do
you not trust anyone?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And we talked earlier about how most of the things
you read articles are done by AI. It's not a
real person. They're going to tell you whatever they want
you to believe. You can believe us and chemtrails.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
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Speaker 2 (20:18):
Let me tell you about your skin retinal. I've seen
I've seen the word all over the place. My wife
has retinal.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You don't put anything on your skin?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Oh, thank you? You just yes? This glow is natural.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
You don't put face lotion on or anything?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Why not? Because I what do you want me to do?
I don't know what people want from I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Listen, if it was good enough for my grandpa, it's
probably good enough, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But things technology, lotion technology, men's lotion technology.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yes, I always progressed.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
If I was super concerned about my skin, which I'm
not because I don't work outside all day. Guys who
do that should probably put your on screen all the time,
that's true, and have to be more aware of it.
I can't believe that.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It just might feel nice in the morning after you
wash your face or shaved to put on some lotion.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
It feels fine when I shave. After my shave, it
feels fine.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay. Anyway, I just think that's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Such a funny thing that there's an expectation that people
that that, and we did. We talked about this oneth
Ago or whatever it was, and guys were like, you
got to put stuff on your face.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I don't have to, And I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Not right, you just I just you know, you might might.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like it, right, and then I'll look like Channing Tatum
in that movie.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's not Long you go for the Moon.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Just a little moisturizer once in a while.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Do you has have you ever looked at my face? Yes,
since you get to look at every day and you're like, oh,
he could use a little bit of retin sometimes.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, not retinal.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
You don't need a moisturizer.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I would.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I just like, I just think moisturizer is good.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
My husband uses like a vino or something like something
not fufu at all.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I just never have known anyone that didn't put anything
on their face, Like my dad would put stuff on
his face like after sha.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's more of a cologne than this ringing.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I don't even know what it does.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
It's supposed to tighten up your pores your.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay, you don't use that as either.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You just raw dog that that face with your with
your soap.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The thing I put on soap and shaving cream or
sunscreen if I'm out in the sun. But that I mean,
that doesn't It hasn't happened for weeks months. Retinol is
vitamin A. It's a fat soluble vitamin and the vitamin
A family found.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Any food angry vitamin A?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Jacob, do you put stuff on your face since you're
the other man here?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Just lotion? Lotion? But see that's the thing. That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, Now it's retinal is supposed to It's supposed to
reduce wrinkles and other effects of skin aging.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It does work, but just don't get fooled because the
beauty industry is such a racket, isn't it. Try to
think that you're try to get you to think if
you're paying more, it's a better product. Retinyl kind of
works the same in everything, so you know, you can
get it more concentrated or what have you, but you
shouldn't be paying more than you know, twenty bucks for it.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I have a retinyl tip.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yeah, so retne is really expensive if you get that
as a prescription, but you can get the generic version
called retinoen.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I think it's called no tretonoen something like that.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
It's ten bucks and it is a prescription, but you
can ask your dermatologist say, hey, instead of retine, and
it's basically it's retine. It's the active ingredient ingredient of retnee,
and it's thretonoen.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So that's a good tip.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
My favorite retinyl product you can get it at Target
for about twenty bucks. It's the roc retinal anti aging
retinal face serum and it works. Man, I've tried. I'm like,
I got that years ago and I'm like, this works
pretty well. And then I thought, well, if the one
(24:11):
from CVS works, well, I'll try the other ones. They
must be even better. And then I was the idiot
that was overpaying for the same product that I could
have gotten along at the CVS.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Does it have I've gone back to it several times.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Does it have to be applied to the skin or
can you get it through your diet?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, it has to be applied to the skin because.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
You can get vitamin A from foods.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's not just vitamin A.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Well, it's just yes.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But see, now you're selling me on this, and I'm
not sure I need to be. You don't need like
a wrinkle cream. You don't have wrinkles, So then why
am I putting stuff on my face.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It's moisturizer that I'm recommending, not retinal, just a simple lotion.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Retinoids are found naturally in foods, but foods that come
from animals, sorry, Debra. Cod liver oil, butter liver from beef, pork, chicken, turkey, whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Eggs and cheese and milk.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Are all sources of the retinoids that can be found
in that vitamination.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, don't get me wrong, You're luminous, glowy. Would
you say glowy?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think if you want the glow, you need to
put the lotion on your face.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It puts the lotion on its body, gets the hoses,
so retinal now it's exploding, right, So they're they're they're
doing body lotions and everything.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And the whole point of the article was do you
really need to put retinal on your shins? Well, it
wouldn't hurt, which I would say there is probably just
trying to overcharge you for lotion.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You can, you can od on it too well anything.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Basically it does make the skin I think thinner or
something like that. So if you exfoliate, then you're freaking
slathering on retinal.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
That's probably not a great move.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Retinal is often you use to reduce the risk of
complications in measles patients.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Interesting, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I didn't know that either. Look at you learned so
many things.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Things here you know what I have.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Some I have some moisturizer right here. It's brand new,
and you should. You could put it on your face.
I haven't even opened it yet.
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Search for the podcast.
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Texted me and she said.
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