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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Experts were pretty sure that life in the twentieth century
was going to make us pretty dumb. Never before had
culture and technology reshaped our daily lives as quickly as
the twentieth century. Every new invention brings with it a
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panic over what's going to happen right. Light bulbs were invented,
and we thought people would never go to sleep again.
Radio was invented, and people thought nobody would read anymore.
Comic books came out, Well, why read a book without pictures? Movies, TV,
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rock and roll, video games, calculators, pornography, twenty four hours
a day, dial up internet, all of these things that
experts suggested would have And by experts, I probably mean
everybody's grandparents expected that those things were going to make
us dumber. But test results will tell you a different study,
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a different story about that. In the thirties, in the
United States and across much of the Western world, IQ
numbers actually went up.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And again the thirties.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Think of the eight difference between the eighteen nineties and
the nineteen thirties, and the kinds of inventions and cultural
phenomenon and technologies that were that came about in just
that thirty or forty year span, and how they changed
the way we live life today. IQ stores actually scores,
(01:54):
i should say, actually started creeping up, and they went
up and up, and they rose on average about three
points per decade, and they accumulated such that even an
unexceptionable moron from around the turn of the millennium would
look like a genius compared to somebody one hundred years ago.
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This combination, this phenomenon was known as the Flynn effect.
This is a named after a sociologist guy named James Flynn,
who noticed this very slow creep up when it came
to IQ scores. He did the study back in the
nineteen eighties, and because these things happened over just two
or three generations, he took note of it. He ruled
(02:42):
out genetics. It's not that we just made smarter babies,
because that would take a lot longer. That would take
thousands of years for that evolutionary level change for us
to go through the humans of nineteen hundred and two thousands,
you know, separated by just one hundred years, we're running
on basically the same operating system. The meat and meat
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and juice bags that exist right now around our brains
are kind of the same meat and juice bags that
we had one hundred and twenty years ago. So this
James Flynn figured out there had to be some sort
of an AWE software update. Those are his words uploaded
with the mind by sort of what was just going
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on in modern life.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Part of this was.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The way that we did things differently over starting in
the early nineteen hundreds up to the year two thousand.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Better education was one thing.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Obviously we were able to train students to deal with hypotheticals,
to answer the questions, to problem solve, et cetera. The
other thing is office jobs came about, not just industrial
jobs that involved you manipulating a thing right, assembling something,
building something, making something. There were office jobs where you
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had to grapple with an idea more than a physical
thing that exercised the muscle that is your brain. Then
you had mass media. Radio and television were invented and
allowed us to see other places around the world, sometimes
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in real time. If nothing else, we got to see
different cultures, different politicians, different places on the earth, what
they look like, and how different they were from us,
which must have been mind blowing for a lot of people.
People got better at classifying thinking beyond their own daily experience,
which are some of the basic skills that IQ tests
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are designed to measure. So that would explain how in
the world those one hundred years of development gave us,
you know, three point bumps in IQ score over the
course of a century. And this he illustrated this. James Flynn,
again a sociologist, illustrated it this way. He said it
was a shift from liberal sorry literalism, toward abstraction, with
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the example that a century ago, if you ask someone
what dogs and rabbits have in common, they might answer
dogs hunt rabbits. One hundred years ago, today they might
say something like, well, but they have in common dogs
and rabbits are both mammals, among other things. So then
developed this theory maybe all of that stuff, rock and roll, television, radio, lighting, calculate,
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all of these things wasn't actually rotting our minds, but
was making them better. Yes, you can say better nutrition
helped out. He also likes to point out the reduced
exposure to lead, which was making everybody dumber than all
of those things have helped.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But guess what, it's over.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Whatever gains we appear to have made over the course
of the twentieth century have either plateaued or are beginning
to decrease. In the twenty first century, we may for
the first time in a very long time, begetting dumber.
I'll explain that when we come back. Gary Shannon will continue.
I was telling you about this theory by the late
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James Flynn, a social scientist who noticed that IQ test
scores went up about three points on average, three points
every decade in the twentieth century, despite the concern that
a lot of the technological changes the cultural changes in
the twentieth century was going to make a work going
to make us dumber, and in fact they made us smarter.
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Then something else happened. Just after we flipped the calendar
to two thousand. Elizabeth Dworak, and now an assistant professor
in Northwestern.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Chose the topic of.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Analyzing IQ tests in the twentieth century twenty first century,
I should say, to see if they continued that same
Flinn effect.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They called it three percent each decade.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But she says she ran the numbers and felt like
I was in Don't Look Up, the movie in which
an astronomy student discovers a comet coming towards Earth. She said,
I spent weeks going back through the code, thinking I
had done this wrong. But she showed declines in the
three important testing categories matrix reasoning, think like an abstract,
visual puzzle, letters and number series, which would be pattern
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recognition and verbal reasoning language based problem solving. Said the
first two losses were the deepest. They call that fluid intelligence.
They powered it for us to adapt to new situations
and think on the fly. And the drops showed across age, gender,
and education level, but were most dramatic among who among
eighteen to twenty two year olds. She knows what these suggests,
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she says as a science as she's required to add
a few caveats. First, we didn't drop in every category.
We actually went up when it came to spatial reasoning,
which ironically is very crucial when you're playing something like Fortnite.
And second, she said, these data points that she got
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came from unprotected all voluntary online IQ tests, which are
not necessarily reliable, but she did have four hundred thousand
of them. Now there are a couple things that they
can point to that suggest that we know why we're
getting dumber, and a lot of us, over the course
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of the last eighteen years since the invention of the iPhone,
have had them in our pockets. This giant, I shouldn't
say giant. It's a little but powerful black hole that
sucks our intelligence away. The way this is written up
in New York Magazine, the author says, for most of us,
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our phone has become both an external hard drive storing
everything we used to remember and a portable Las Vegas,
ensuring we never have to suffer a boring minute.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now, obviously.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The social media elmer said, social media is probably plays
a lot of this. Well, yes, and this little thing
in our pocket is a gateway to social media. Not
long ago, if you were the town idiot, the only
way that your thoughts would get out as you stood
on the street corner and yelled.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's the only way.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now the town idiot has seven hundred and fifty thousand
followers on Twitter and two and a half million on Instagram.
At worst, you used to just embarrass yourself in front
of your family, and bad ideas had to go through
an actual filter, which was other human beings. Before they were,
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you know, broadcast to other people, they had a harder
time scaling and reproducing, so stupidity stayed local. Now, as
you very well know, it is everywhere, and even those
of us with nothing useful to say can have our
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words broadcast around the world, and that's not safe.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, you're like naked. I don't think i've seen your
arms in years. Excuse me, what's going on? Would you
mind you take off.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All your clothes because I did push ups in the
brake so that I could warm up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's so The reason I say that is if you
haven't known it, to surprise you.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I'm shocked. I haven't seen that much skin from you
in a long time.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Gary's just wearing a short sleeved shirt right now, but
I feel accosted by the amount of skin because in
here we have to bundle like it's a ski a
ski town because it's very cold, so he's usually in
three different layers. I haven't seen skin. I haven't seen
his arms, honestly, probably in three years.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm playing the part of sir Edmund Hillary and you're
playing the part of tensig Norgay.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Okay, I like my role. I like being tensignrgay.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, a lot of a lot of a sense onto Everest.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Crime rates in San Francisco have dropped to their lowest
levels in decades and continue to fall.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
This is.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Saying it's welcome news to people who love San Francisco
and people who live in San Francisco is a gross
unders statement. Burglaries down twenty eight percent this year. The
homeless tents that block the sidewalks have been reduced to
near nothing, especially in the areas where you notice them
the most. The tourists, the high traffic areas, foot traffic,
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in kind, transit ridership are up.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
At least part of this has to do with the
AI boom. Tech companies for the last fifty years have
been in Northern California, Silicon Valley and San Francisco, and
it looks like the AI boom is taking advantage of
the fact that right now you could scoop up some
of these office built well, a couple of years ago,
you could scoop up some of these office buildings in
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downtown San Francisco for an absolute deal and bet on
the fact that there would be some rebound to the
office commercial real estate market there.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We've talked also about Daniel Lurie, the new mayor, first
term mayor. He talks about these huge companies Open AI
and Thropic, which is also AI, and said that when
he talks to other mayors, they always tell him that
they would die to have just one of those companies.
And in San Francisco they've got dozens and dozens of
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those companies. So it's not just that the companies are there,
it's the employees are all there, all of them very
well paid, all of them can afford things. Rent prices
have gone up, which for some people is an indicator
of inflation, but for others it's an indicator of supply
and demand, and that demand is up for those places,
those rental places in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's kind of a weird feeling because if you are
a San Franciscan native and you've seen what Salesforce has
done to the skyline, you've got mixed feelings because of
what Salesforce has brought to the city, but how it's
forever changed the city and Salesforce they are the home
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to that meaning tower right that it used to be
the Trans America building that was the star of the
San Francisco skyline, and now it's that Salesforce building, which
a lot of us from there think is ugly.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Why did you have to change the skyline? Like what
is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But there they are and last week Salesforce unveiled a
fifteen billion dollar investment over the next five years. And
driving around the Sales Force campus there, which I did
recently because it was near the.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Hospital where my mom was, it is impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It is like the live.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Work play dream for a lot of these cities.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's just a bustling area.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
There's shopping, there's food, there's work, there's transit.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
They seem to have done it right.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And now Salesforce is seeing that and they're putting even
more money into this workforce development program there in the
city of San Francisco. With that fifteen billion dollar investment.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It sounds like Daniel Lurie as much criticism as has
been launched at San Francisco in the last couple of years,
Daniel Lurie's not standing out there at a podium and
yelling everything's.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Fine, We're all fine.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Stop criticizing San Francisco, he says, I don't want to
sit here and just say everything is perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's not. We have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He said that they have to continue to tackle drug use,
address the shortage of affordable housing, bringing more retail back,
further cut the red tape that can often be a
red flag for business and keep them out of town.
Foot traffic from city visitors and ridership on BART, the
Bay Area Rapid transit system have been going up, and
they said the city is now counting, this is a
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funny the count one hundred and sixty eight homeless tents.
That's down from two hundred and forty two. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's a huge decrease because San Francisco is not It's
seven square miles.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, it's not a big it's not a big.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Place, which is why when there were two hundred and
fifty tense it was notable you could see it.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
There is although as you as Rosie as this Wall
Street Journal article is about sort of the new trajectory
for a rebirth of San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
There is a guy.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Who has spent some time there in the city itself
and said that he survived the drug addled life on
the streets of San Francisco by the skin of his teeth,
and that he actually doesn't believe.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
In this rebirth of San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Fifteen years ago, Gavin Newsom was the mayor of San
Francisco and he was Trump was saying that fifteen years
ago is when things went bad.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Is this what have worked out for Trump's narrative?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Had this new mayor not come in and had salesforce
not succeeded and poort a bunch of money into that city.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And we're talking about that.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Daniel Lurie has already said he does not want federal
troops in what this guy Tom Wolfe is suggesting he
doesn't want to see federal troops. What he wants to
see is an expansion of federal law enforcement programs, something
called Operation Overdrive, which a couple of years ago allowed
agencies to help local police dismantle the drug networks.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And he suggests.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That that kind of work within San Francisco at least
takes out one of the major problems, which is outside
drug dealers coming into San Francisco on a rotating basis basics,
I mean twenty four hours a day, you got three
shifts of people coming in from the East Bay a
lot of times and selling drugs throughout the city. Officials
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estimate they're about eighty three hundred homeless people in San Francisco.
Eighty three hundred seems low, but like we were talking
about last segment, it's not a gigantic place.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, that seems heavy.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But others have said before he became an addict, This guy,
Tom Wolfe was a middle class guy, city job. He
had foot surgery, prescribed oxy codo, and within months he
was addicted, taking five hundred and sixty milligrams a day.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Couldn't get enough of.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
The oxy, so he switched to the cheaper alternative, which
was heroin and fentanyl. When he couldn't afford oxy. His
wife kicks him out, et cetera, et cetera. But he
says that Mayor Lourie Daniel Lurie is arguably the best
mayor we've had in a couple of decades as of
right now. He said, the problems with state laws appointed
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judges and legislators who do not know what's going on
in the city of San Francisco. So his concern is
that unless the drug traffic, the drug what would you
call it environment in San Francisco unless that's dealt with.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's a big city.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
There's always going to be some sort of drug environment,
whether it's just contained to the Tenderloin or whether it's
in you know, North Beach or Yeah, exactly, it is
the question. But I'm also not going to listen not
to not to be rude, but I'm also not going
to listen to somebody who was drug addicted and in
the treatment world forever. Tell me that you know he
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has the best opinion on what San Francisco should do.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, I mean he's got he's got a perspective that
you can't ignore.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Sure, but it's not the only perspective.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, what amusement parks were there in the Bay
Area that you would go to.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They just had the one that I remember.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I remember going once to six Flags in Santa Clara
where the stadium is.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh there was one in America, Great America which used
to Marine World.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Marine World in Great America. We went to those, But
did they do Halloween stuff? I don't remember that. No,
I remember doing Halloween on my block like Trigger Trade right,
like that was Halloween.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
There was never like an extravaganza.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I remember there was. There was a place called Frontier Village.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Did you ever go there? That was down in San Jose.
Now it was only around for about twenty years.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Going to San Jose was like going to you know, Europe.
You just didn't get down there. It's like Europe, you
just didn't go, you know, so far away.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I remember one time we were supposed to go to
Frontier Village and the car broke down right near the
Marine Civic Center. It was super early in the morning,
and my uncle had to come pick us up.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And drive us home. I was just I was so deflated.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Never had a trip completely scuttled by a broken down
car before. And I don't know if people is it
more is it less common now? I'm lucky that I
haven't had a car break down in the middle of
a trip kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But yeah, that was awful.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I somebody asked me this whole fence thing, just to
go back to this for a second. It had asked me,
why am I not buying lattice to put up on
the very top of this privacy fence.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Who asked you that? And how many times did you
punch them? In the next I didn't punch anybody at
any time. It was a female, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It was? But it was.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And I said, because well, for one thing, there's going
to be some amount of satisfaction in being able to
put this together myself. Yeah, the whole thing. But the
other aspect of it is the kind that we want.
You can't get in the right size. And even if
you got it bigger than you wanted and had to
cut it down, you're wasting all kinds of material at
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that point, so you have to take the saw and
cut it all down and everything. I don't know how
to describe to some people the benefits of making it yourself,
even if and I've had plenty of opportunities in the
lines in putting this fence thing together, plenty of opportunities
where I get to a certain point and I go, oh,
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my gosh, I screwed up twelve steps ago, and I
got to go back thirteen steps to make that one
step correct, so that the rest of.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Them are whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There was one there's one specific longer section where the
fence pickets started going downhill like they were not all
to the same level, and I couldn't figure out why.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
For those of you know, I wasn't using a bump board.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I was just touching it with my hand to make
sure that one fence picket was level with the other
fence picket next to it. But I realized as I
walked away and looked down, it looked like it was
going downhill. And that was because one of my fence
pickets wasn't plump. It was actually cut like a triangle
is a bad cheap cut. So I had to go back,
you know, take eight of them off to fix that
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ninth one, and then put them all back on and
get it back together. There's something so rewarding about that.
And people are like, well, you could have paid somebody
twelve dollars fifteen thousand dollars for that fence, and I
see it, but it wouldn't have motivated me. It wouldn't
It wouldn't have made me feel good at all about
anything that I did. If I just sat there while
somebody else would do.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Kill you, it would have the adverse effect if you
paid fifteen thousand dollars for a job that you know
that you could do even if you didn't know one
hundred percent you could do it. You knew where to start,
and you knew that there was a possibility you could
do this job. And in fact, if you had paid
for that fence to be built fifteen thousand dollars, you
would hate that fence for the for as long as
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you lived in that home. You'd hate that fence because
you'd know, Man, I overpaid. What a fool I am
a fool. I could have done this at least That's
how I would feel if I were you, like I
could have done this, and you would just you'd resent.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That fence, yeah, because or somebody'd look at it and go,
that's a nice fence.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Where'd you get it? I go, I don't know, it's
just some guy. Right.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Here's another thing. I don't want you to be disappointed.
But rarely do people compliment fences. So if if nobody
compliments your fence, don't get down on yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It's just not something that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Usually pops right, and it is not for it to
be like the mean, that's the whole I know it's
not a show.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Fence, but I don't think anyone would come into your
backyard and be like, come, I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Guys talk like that. Well, I like your friends, So
who'd you get to put that up?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Coach Ken Carter, Yes, takes over Richmond High School Oilers
basketball program.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You want to immediately.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Institutes academic moral expectations of the players, and after a
bunch of internal turmoil, they eventually banned together and they
play Saint Francis in the state finals.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Did they win?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Nay?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But coach Carter comes into the locker room.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well not quite a storybook ending, huh, not for us anyway,
But two men played, Black.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Champions, and.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Champions hold their heads high. What jochie go way beyond
the wind lost column or what's going to be written
on the front page of the sports section tomorrow. You've
achieved something that some people spend their whole lives.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Trying to find.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
What you achieved.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's that ever elucid victory with.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Them, and gentlemen, I am so proud of you. Four
months ago when I took the job at Richmond, I had.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
A plan, had planned failed.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
I came to coach basketball players, and you became students.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I came to teach boys, Oh my gosh, stop, and
you became men.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh my gosh, I thank you. I love Coach Carter.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
If someone walked in this door right now and offered
me a coaching job at any school in.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The state of California, yeah, that's us. You know what
team I choose? Richmond? Richmond, rich What.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Rich what stop?
Speaker 5 (26:28):
We love?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yes, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead
and give another round of applause for Coach Carter and
their casting department. Because it was two thousand and five, guys,
two thousand and five. Coach Carter came out two thousand
and five. Remember the Titans came out two movies. We celebrate.
They are on the mantle, They're up on the pedestals,
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on top of the mantle of great sports movies. And
here's what separates Coach Carter from remember the Titans, and
it's casting, y'all. Coach Carter cast Channing Tatuan on that team.
Channing Tatum, Channing Tatum, who can play basketball?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Remember the Titans cast Ryan Gossling at safety. He cannot
play football, he cannot. He was an absolute liability. Two
Pretty Boys cast and two sports movies. One succeeded, one
did not. Glad we played to remember the Titans last
week that we all fired up. Apparently that's why, that's the.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Reason we do it.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, it'll be fun. We'll just right now. Nobody will listen.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, nobody will listen to it, but we can talk
crap about people we don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Just wite a while yourself. You're just like, I just
need this cathartic relation. Yeah, from the show I did.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Gary and Shannon kf I AM six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We have long lamented the fact
that people are getting fatter. It's not good. It's not
good for anybody. Yeah, it's not good for it. It's
not good for anybody. It's not good for you if
you're the one getting tad. It's not good if you
have other health issues and someone who's fat has taken
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up time and the health and your doctor and all
that sort of.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's not good for anybody. Should I put this on
message away?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
We should all hummus is the least of your problems. Okay,
we should all be more fit period, just healthier, fitter.
There is something going on that adult obesi in the
United States peaked somewhere between twenty one and twenty two.
(28:54):
Twenty one and twenty twenty two, we were all neck
deep in COVID. We were sick of the rules, We
were eating like crap, We weren't moving around. They told
us to sit around on our couch, that it was
the safest place to be. We all got fatter, and
then glucagon like peptide one agonists and.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Physic check people that got into shape, some not enough.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The gop ones then come in and for the first time.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Gallops self reported data.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Now this is again self reported, so it's are you fat,
yes or no?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Are you fatter now than you were? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
They sewed a nearly three point drop in obesity since
twenty twenty two since it peaked. Now, diabetes is still
going up diabetes, but obesity in general is going down,
and that is great news. Obviously, it has to do
with the popularity of the golp ones. You can't go
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for one commercial break without seeing ads for one or
the other of the glp ones that are out there
in general.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
What did you start doing? But when to get rid
of my fats? Oh? I didn't say that I sat
around a lot. I don't think I was as healthy
as I could have been.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That's not true. You have made an you have made efforts.
You're more in shape now than you were, say, ten
years ago. Okay, So I was just asking you what
you did. I just because I think sometimes people think
it's like this great life change and when it's just
like something every day, a little something every day, just
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trying to eat better every day, trying to move around
more every day.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know what I'd say.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I would say part of it is that my wife
and I talked about it. Yeah, just talked about it,
just like, hey, shouldn't we try.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Not to eat ice cream six days a week?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Don't get me to do Yeah, we haven't had that
conversation in our home about ice cream.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
It's not a conversation that we have had yet.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Because I just.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Stuff like that, I mean, and the realization of I'm
now approaching the point in my age that my dad
was when he had a heart attack, Right, And that's
one of those things that it doesn't loom over me,
and I'll think about it every day, but it's one
of the things like, oh, I should be aware of that,
and I do things differently than he did. I eat
differently than he did. I don't smoke. I mean all
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these different things just to avoid that.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's never too late to start smoking, right, probably too
late to start cocaine.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yes, and you've aged. Didn't do that. No, I don't
think that would have been drug of choice. No.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I think he's not a turn it up guy. I
could see him getting I could see him. I could
see him have a couple of giggling. He would love
to laugh. Oh yeah, love to laugh and giggle. He
put on, you know, gun smoke or something. My little
rifleman have a joint, enjoy himself.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Well that's Jack Connors. That's a great visual. Your dad
and his recliner smoking a jay. He didn't smoke it.
He tried it, you know, he tried the edibles like
when he was sick. Yeah. Yeah, just it didn't fit.
It didn't fit him. Yeah, he didn't like it. Didn't like.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
My dad rode that weed train straight to the grave.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I mean, I'm embarrassed to say how much weed he
was smoking towards the end. But hey, whatever's gonna make
you comfortable.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You know, men outnumber I'm sorry, women outnumber men. Obviously
when it comes to these weight loss injectables. And the
only reason I say obviously is because women tend to
find it more difficult to drop pounds than men.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh, I'm Gary, and I know how hard it is
for women to drop weight.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Diane told me that this week.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
She's like, yeah, it's true. I dropped it pretty quickly.
She's just like, I didn't know twice as hard. Don't
let that cause a rift between you. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
What did you say back to her when she said that,
Because I can see I've seen this movie. I'm trying
to edit this one as.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
We go along. You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Experts were pretty sure that life in the twentieth century
was going to make us pretty dumb. Never before had
culture and technology reshaped our daily lives as quickly as
the twentieth century. Every new invention brings with it a
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panic over what's going to happen right. Light bulbs were invented,
and we thought people would never go to sleep again.
Radio was invented, and people thought nobody would read anymore.
Comic books came out, Well, why read a book without pictures? Movies, TV,
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rock and roll, video games, calculators, pornography, twenty four hours
a day, dial up internet, all of these things that
experts suggested would have And by experts, I probably mean
everybody's grandparents expected that those things were going to make
us dumber. But test results will tell you a different study,
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a different story about that. In the thirties, in the
United States and across much of the Western world, IQ
numbers actually went up.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And again the thirties.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Think of the eight difference between the eighteen nineties and
the nineteen thirties, and the kinds of inventions and cultural
phenomenon and technologies that were that came about in just
that thirty or forty year span, and how they changed
the way we live life today. IQ stores actually scores,
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i should say, actually started creeping up, and they went
up and up, and they rose on average about three
points per decade, and they accumulated such that even an
unexceptionable moron from around the turn of the millennium would
look like a genius compared to somebody one hundred years ago.
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This combination, this phenomenon was known as the Flynn effect.
This is a named after a sociologist guy named James Flynn,
who noticed this very slow creep up when it came
to IQ scores. He did the study back in the
nineteen eighties, and because these things happened over just two
or three generations, he took note of it. He ruled
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out genetics. It's not that we just made smarter babies,
because that would take a lot longer. That would take
thousands of years for that evolutionary level change for us
to go through the humans of nineteen hundred and two thousands,
you know, separated by just one hundred years, we're running
on basically the same operating system. The meat and meat
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and juice bags that exist right now around our brains
are kind of the same meat and juice bags that
we had one hundred and twenty years ago. So this
James Flynn figured out there had to be some sort
of an AWE software update. Those are his words uploaded
with the mind by sort of what was just going
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on in modern life.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Part of this was.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The way that we did things differently over starting in
the early nineteen hundreds up to the year two thousand.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Better education was one thing.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Obviously we were able to train students to deal with hypotheticals,
to answer the questions, to problem solve, et cetera. The
other thing is office jobs came about, not just industrial
jobs that involved you manipulating a thing right, assembling something,
building something, making something. There were office jobs where you
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had to grapple with an idea more than a physical
thing that exercised the muscle that is your brain. Then
you had mass media. Radio and television were invented and
allowed us to see other places around the world, sometimes
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in real time. If nothing else, we got to see
different cultures, different politicians, different places on the earth, what
they look like, and how different they were from us,
which must have been mind blowing for a lot of people.
People got better at classifying thinking beyond their own daily experience,
which are some of the basic skills that IQ tests
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are designed to measure. So that would explain how in
the world those one hundred years of development gave us,
you know, three point bumps in IQ score over the
course of a century. And this he illustrated this. James Flynn,
again a sociologist, illustrated it this way. He said it
was a shift from liberal sorry literalism, toward abstraction, with
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the example that a century ago, if you ask someone
what dogs and rabbits have in common, they might answer
dogs hunt rabbits. One hundred years ago, today they might
say something like, well, but they have in common dogs
and rabbits are both mammals, among other things. So then
developed this theory maybe all of that stuff, rock and roll, television, radio, lighting, calculate,
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all of these things wasn't actually rotting our minds, but
was making them better. Yes, you can say better nutrition
helped out. He also likes to point out the reduced
exposure to lead, which was making everybody dumber than all
of those things have helped.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But guess what, it's over.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Whatever gains we appear to have made over the course
of the twentieth century have either plateaued or are beginning
to decrease. In the twenty first century, we may for
the first time in a very long time, begetting dumber.
I'll explain that when we come back. Gary Shannon will continue.
I was telling you about this theory by the late
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James Flynn, a social scientist who noticed that IQ test
scores went up about three points on average, three points
every decade in the twentieth century, despite the concern that
a lot of the technological changes the cultural changes in
the twentieth century was going to make a work going
to make us dumber, and in fact they made us smarter.
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Then something else happened. Just after we flipped the calendar
to two thousand. Elizabeth Dworak, and now an assistant professor
in Northwestern.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Chose the topic of.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Analyzing IQ tests in the twentieth century twenty first century,
I should say, to see if they continued that same
Flinn effect.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They called it three percent each decade.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But she says she ran the numbers and felt like
I was in Don't Look Up, the movie in which
an astronomy student discovers a comet coming towards Earth. She said,
I spent weeks going back through the code, thinking I
had done this wrong. But she showed declines in the
three important testing categories matrix reasoning, think like an abstract,
visual puzzle, letters and number series, which would be pattern
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recognition and verbal reasoning language based problem solving. Said the
first two losses were the deepest. They call that fluid intelligence.
They powered it for us to adapt to new situations
and think on the fly. And the drops showed across age, gender,
and education level, but were most dramatic among who among
eighteen to twenty two year olds. She knows what these suggests,
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she says as a science as she's required to add
a few caveats. First, we didn't drop in every category.
We actually went up when it came to spatial reasoning,
which ironically is very crucial when you're playing something like Fortnite.
And second, she said, these data points that she got
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came from unprotected all voluntary online IQ tests, which are
not necessarily reliable, but she did have four hundred thousand
of them. Now there are a couple things that they
can point to that suggest that we know why we're
getting dumber, and a lot of us, over the course
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of the last eighteen years since the invention of the iPhone,
have had them in our pockets. This giant, I shouldn't
say giant. It's a little but powerful black hole that
sucks our intelligence away. The way this is written up
in New York Magazine, the author says, for most of us,
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our phone has become both an external hard drive storing
everything we used to remember and a portable Las Vegas,
ensuring we never have to suffer a boring minute.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now, obviously.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The social media elmer said, social media is probably plays
a lot of this. Well, yes, and this little thing
in our pocket is a gateway to social media. Not
long ago, if you were the town idiot, the only
way that your thoughts would get out as you stood
on the street corner and yelled.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's the only way.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now the town idiot has seven hundred and fifty thousand
followers on Twitter and two and a half million on Instagram.
At worst, you used to just embarrass yourself in front
of your family, and bad ideas had to go through
an actual filter, which was other human beings. Before they were,
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you know, broadcast to other people, they had a harder
time scaling and reproducing, so stupidity stayed local. Now, as
you very well know, it is everywhere, and even those
of us with nothing useful to say can have our
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words broadcast around the world, and that's not safe.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, you're like naked. I don't think i've seen your
arms in years. Excuse me, what's going on? Would you
mind you take off.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All your clothes because I did push ups in the
brake so that I could warm up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's so The reason I say that is if you
haven't known it, to surprise you.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I'm shocked. I haven't seen that much skin from you
in a long time.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Gary's just wearing a short sleeved shirt right now, but
I feel accosted by the amount of skin because in
here we have to bundle like it's a ski a
ski town because it's very cold, so he's usually in
three different layers. I haven't seen skin. I haven't seen
his arms, honestly, probably in three years.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I'm playing the part of sir Edmund Hillary and you're
playing the part of tensig Norgay.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Okay, I like my role. I like being tensignrgay.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, a lot of a lot of a sense onto Everest.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Crime rates in San Francisco have dropped to their lowest
levels in decades and continue to fall.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
This is.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Saying it's welcome news to people who love San Francisco
and people who live in San Francisco is a gross
unders statement. Burglaries down twenty eight percent this year. The
homeless tents that block the sidewalks have been reduced to
near nothing, especially in the areas where you notice them
the most. The tourists, the high traffic areas, foot traffic,
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in kind, transit ridership are up.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
At least part of this has to do with the
AI boom. Tech companies for the last fifty years have
been in Northern California, Silicon Valley and San Francisco, and
it looks like the AI boom is taking advantage of
the fact that right now you could scoop up some
of these office built well, a couple of years ago,
you could scoop up some of these office buildings in
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downtown San Francisco for an absolute deal and bet on
the fact that there would be some rebound to the
office commercial real estate market there.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We've talked also about Daniel Lurie, the new mayor, first
term mayor. He talks about these huge companies Open AI
and Thropic, which is also AI, and said that when
he talks to other mayors, they always tell him that
they would die to have just one of those companies.
And in San Francisco they've got dozens and dozens of
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those companies. So it's not just that the companies are there,
it's the employees are all there, all of them very
well paid, all of them can afford things. Rent prices
have gone up, which for some people is an indicator
of inflation, but for others it's an indicator of supply
and demand, and that demand is up for those places,
those rental places in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's kind of a weird feeling because if you are
a San Franciscan native and you've seen what Salesforce has
done to the skyline, you've got mixed feelings because of
what Salesforce has brought to the city, but how it's
forever changed the city and Salesforce they are the home
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to that meaning tower right that it used to be
the Trans America building that was the star of the
San Francisco skyline, and now it's that Salesforce building, which
a lot of us from there think is ugly.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Why did you have to change the skyline? Like what
is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But there they are and last week Salesforce unveiled a
fifteen billion dollar investment over the next five years. And
driving around the Sales Force campus there, which I did
recently because it was near the.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Hospital where my mom was, it is impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It is like the live.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Work play dream for a lot of these cities.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's just a bustling area.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
There's shopping, there's food, there's work, there's transit.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
They seem to have done it right.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And now Salesforce is seeing that and they're putting even
more money into this workforce development program there in the
city of San Francisco. With that fifteen billion dollar investment.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It sounds like Daniel Lurie as much criticism as has
been launched at San Francisco in the last couple of years,
Daniel Lurie's not standing out there at a podium and
yelling everything's.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Fine, We're all fine.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Stop criticizing San Francisco, he says, I don't want to
sit here and just say everything is perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's not. We have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He said that they have to continue to tackle drug use,
address the shortage of affordable housing, bringing more retail back,
further cut the red tape that can often be a
red flag for business and keep them out of town.
Foot traffic from city visitors and ridership on BART, the
Bay Area Rapid transit system have been going up, and
they said the city is now counting, this is a
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funny the count one hundred and sixty eight homeless tents.
That's down from two hundred and forty two. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's a huge decrease because San Francisco is not It's
seven square miles.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, it's not a big it's not a big.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Place, which is why when there were two hundred and
fifty tense it was notable you could see it.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
There is although as you as Rosie as this Wall
Street Journal article is about sort of the new trajectory
for a rebirth of San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
There is a guy.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Who has spent some time there in the city itself
and said that he survived the drug addled life on
the streets of San Francisco by the skin of his teeth,
and that he actually doesn't believe.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
In this rebirth of San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Fifteen years ago, Gavin Newsom was the mayor of San
Francisco and he was Trump was saying that fifteen years
ago is when things went bad.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Is this what have worked out for Trump's narrative?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Had this new mayor not come in and had salesforce
not succeeded and poort a bunch of money into that city.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And we're talking about that.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Daniel Lurie has already said he does not want federal
troops in what this guy Tom Wolfe is suggesting he
doesn't want to see federal troops. What he wants to
see is an expansion of federal law enforcement programs, something
called Operation Overdrive, which a couple of years ago allowed
agencies to help local police dismantle the drug networks.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And he suggests.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That that kind of work within San Francisco at least
takes out one of the major problems, which is outside
drug dealers coming into San Francisco on a rotating basis basics,
I mean twenty four hours a day, you got three
shifts of people coming in from the East Bay a
lot of times and selling drugs throughout the city. Officials
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estimate they're about eighty three hundred homeless people in San Francisco.
Eighty three hundred seems low, but like we were talking
about last segment, it's not a gigantic place.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, that seems heavy.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
But others have said before he became an addict, This guy,
Tom Wolfe was a middle class guy, city job. He
had foot surgery, prescribed oxy codo, and within months he
was addicted, taking five hundred and sixty milligrams a day.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Couldn't get enough of.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
The oxy, so he switched to the cheaper alternative, which
was heroin and fentanyl. When he couldn't afford oxy. His
wife kicks him out, et cetera, et cetera. But he
says that Mayor Lourie Daniel Lurie is arguably the best
mayor we've had in a couple of decades as of
right now. He said, the problems with state laws appointed
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judges and legislators who do not know what's going on
in the city of San Francisco. So his concern is
that unless the drug traffic, the drug what would you
call it environment in San Francisco unless that's dealt with.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's a big city.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
There's always going to be some sort of drug environment,
whether it's just contained to the Tenderloin or whether it's
in you know, North Beach or Yeah, exactly, it is
the question. But I'm also not going to listen not
to not to be rude, but I'm also not going
to listen to somebody who was drug addicted and in
the treatment world forever. Tell me that you know he
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has the best opinion on what San Francisco should do.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, I mean he's got he's got a perspective that
you can't ignore.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Sure, but it's not the only perspective.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, what amusement parks were there in the Bay
Area that you would go to.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They just had the one that I remember.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I remember going once to six Flags in Santa Clara
where the stadium is.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
That's fun.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh there was one in America, Great America which used
to Marine World.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Marine World in Great America. We went to those, But
did they do Halloween stuff? I don't remember that. No,
I remember doing Halloween on my block like Trigger Trade right,
like that was Halloween.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
There was never like an extravaganza.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I remember there was. There was a place called Frontier Village.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Did you ever go there? That was down in San Jose.
Now it was only around for about twenty years.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Going to San Jose was like going to you know, Europe.
You just didn't get down there. It's like Europe, you
just didn't go, you know, so far away.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I remember one time we were supposed to go to
Frontier Village and the car broke down right near the
Marine Civic Center. It was super early in the morning,
and my uncle had to come pick us up.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And drive us home. I was just I was so deflated.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Never had a trip completely scuttled by a broken down
car before. And I don't know if people is it
more is it less common now? I'm lucky that I
haven't had a car break down in the middle of
a trip kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But yeah, that was awful.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I somebody asked me this whole fence thing, just to
go back to this for a second. It had asked me,
why am I not buying lattice to put up on
the very top of this privacy fence.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Who asked you that? And how many times did you
punch them? In the next I didn't punch anybody at
any time. It was a female, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It was? But it was.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And I said, because well, for one thing, there's going
to be some amount of satisfaction in being able to
put this together myself. Yeah, the whole thing. But the
other aspect of it is the kind that we want.
You can't get in the right size. And even if
you got it bigger than you wanted and had to
cut it down, you're wasting all kinds of material at
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that point, so you have to take the saw and
cut it all down and everything. I don't know how
to describe to some people the benefits of making it yourself,
even if and I've had plenty of opportunities in the
lines in putting this fence thing together, plenty of opportunities
where I get to a certain point and I go, oh,
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my gosh, I screwed up twelve steps ago, and I
got to go back thirteen steps to make that one
step correct, so that the rest of.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Them are whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There was one there's one specific longer section where the
fence pickets started going downhill like they were not all
to the same level, and I couldn't figure out why.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
For those of you know, I wasn't using a bump board.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I was just touching it with my hand to make
sure that one fence picket was level with the other
fence picket next to it. But I realized as I
walked away and looked down, it looked like it was
going downhill. And that was because one of my fence
pickets wasn't plump. It was actually cut like a triangle
is a bad cheap cut. So I had to go back,
you know, take eight of them off to fix that
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ninth one, and then put them all back on and
get it back together. There's something so rewarding about that.
And people are like, well, you could have paid somebody
twelve dollars fifteen thousand dollars for that fence, and I
see it, but it wouldn't have motivated me. It wouldn't
It wouldn't have made me feel good at all about
anything that I did. If I just sat there while
somebody else would do.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Kill you, it would have the adverse effect if you
paid fifteen thousand dollars for a job that you know
that you could do even if you didn't know one
hundred percent you could do it. You knew where to start,
and you knew that there was a possibility you could
do this job. And in fact, if you had paid
for that fence to be built fifteen thousand dollars, you
would hate that fence for the for as long as
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you lived in that home. You'd hate that fence because
you'd know, Man, I overpaid. What a fool I am
a fool. I could have done this at least That's
how I would feel if I were you, like I
could have done this, and you would just you'd resent.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That fence, yeah, because or somebody'd look at it and go,
that's a nice fence.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Where'd you get it? I go, I don't know, it's
just some guy. Right.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Here's another thing. I don't want you to be disappointed.
But rarely do people compliment fences. So if if nobody
compliments your fence, don't get down on yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It's just not something that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Usually pops right, and it is not for it to
be like the mean, that's the whole I know it's
not a show.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Fence, but I don't think anyone would come into your
backyard and be like, come, I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Guys talk like that. Well, I like your friends, So
who'd you get to put that up?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Coach Ken Carter, Yes, takes over Richmond High School Oilers
basketball program.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You want to immediately.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Institutes academic moral expectations of the players, and after a
bunch of internal turmoil, they eventually banned together and they
play Saint Francis in the state finals.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Did they win?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Nay?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But coach Carter comes into the locker room.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Well not quite a storybook ending, huh, not for us anyway,
But two men played, Black.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Champions, and.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Champions hold their heads high. What jochie go way beyond
the wind lost column or what's going to be written
on the front page of the sports section tomorrow. You've
achieved something that some people spend their whole lives.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Trying to find.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
What you achieved.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's that ever elucid victory with.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Them, and gentlemen, I am so proud of you. Four
months ago when I took the job at Richmond, I had.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
A plan, had planned failed.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
I came to coach basketball players, and you became students.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I came to teach boys, Oh my gosh, stop, and
you became men.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh my gosh, I thank you. I love Coach Carter.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
If someone walked in this door right now and offered
me a coaching job at any school in.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The state of California, yeah, that's us. You know what
team I choose? Richmond? Richmond, rich What.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Rich what stop?
Speaker 5 (26:28):
We love?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yes, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead
and give another round of applause for Coach Carter and
their casting department. Because it was two thousand and five, guys,
two thousand and five. Coach Carter came out two thousand
and five. Remember the Titans came out two movies. We celebrate.
They are on the mantle, They're up on the pedestals,
(26:53):
on top of the mantle of great sports movies. And
here's what separates Coach Carter from remember the Titans, and
it's casting, y'all. Coach Carter cast Channing Tatuan on that team.
Channing Tatum, Channing Tatum, who can play basketball?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Remember the Titans cast Ryan Gossling at safety. He cannot
play football, he cannot. He was an absolute liability. Two
Pretty Boys cast and two sports movies. One succeeded, one
did not. Glad we played to remember the Titans last
week that we all fired up. Apparently that's why, that's the.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Reason we do it.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, it'll be fun. We'll just right now. Nobody will listen.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, nobody will listen to it, but we can talk
crap about people we don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Just wite a while yourself. You're just like, I just
need this cathartic relation. Yeah, from the show I did.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Gary and Shannon kf I AM six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We have long lamented the fact
that people are getting fatter. It's not good. It's not
good for anybody. Yeah, it's not good for it. It's
not good for anybody. It's not good for you if
you're the one getting tad. It's not good if you
have other health issues and someone who's fat has taken
(28:26):
up time and the health and your doctor and all
that sort of.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's not good for anybody. Should I put this on
message away?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
We should all hummus is the least of your problems. Okay,
we should all be more fit period, just healthier, fitter.
There is something going on that adult obesi in the
United States peaked somewhere between twenty one and twenty two.
(28:54):
Twenty one and twenty twenty two, we were all neck
deep in COVID. We were sick of the rules, We
were eating like crap, We weren't moving around. They told
us to sit around on our couch, that it was
the safest place to be. We all got fatter, and
then glucagon like peptide one agonists and.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Physic check people that got into shape, some not enough.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The gop ones then come in and for the first time.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Gallops self reported data.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Now this is again self reported, so it's are you fat,
yes or no?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Are you fatter now than you were? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
They sewed a nearly three point drop in obesity since
twenty twenty two since it peaked. Now, diabetes is still
going up diabetes, but obesity in general is going down,
and that is great news. Obviously, it has to do
with the popularity of the golp ones. You can't go
(29:57):
for one commercial break without seeing ads for one or
the other of the glp ones that are out there
in general.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
What did you start doing? But when to get rid
of my fats? Oh? I didn't say that I sat
around a lot. I don't think I was as healthy
as I could have been.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That's not true. You have made an you have made efforts.
You're more in shape now than you were, say, ten
years ago. Okay, So I was just asking you what
you did. I just because I think sometimes people think
it's like this great life change and when it's just
like something every day, a little something every day, just
(30:38):
trying to eat better every day, trying to move around
more every day.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know what I'd say.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I would say part of it is that my wife
and I talked about it. Yeah, just talked about it,
just like, hey, shouldn't we try.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Not to eat ice cream six days a week?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Don't get me to do Yeah, we haven't had that
conversation in our home about ice cream.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
It's not a conversation that we have had yet.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Because I just.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Stuff like that, I mean, and the realization of I'm
now approaching the point in my age that my dad
was when he had a heart attack, Right, And that's
one of those things that it doesn't loom over me,
and I'll think about it every day, but it's one
of the things like, oh, I should be aware of that,
and I do things differently than he did. I eat
differently than he did. I don't smoke. I mean all
(31:24):
these different things just to avoid that.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's never too late to start smoking, right, probably too
late to start cocaine.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yes, and you've aged. Didn't do that. No, I don't
think that would have been drug of choice. No.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I think he's not a turn it up guy. I
could see him getting I could see him. I could
see him have a couple of giggling. He would love
to laugh. Oh yeah, love to laugh and giggle. He
put on, you know, gun smoke or something. My little
rifleman have a joint, enjoy himself.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Well that's Jack Connors. That's a great visual. Your dad
and his recliner smoking a jay. He didn't smoke it.
He tried it, you know, he tried the edibles like
when he was sick. Yeah. Yeah, just it didn't fit.
It didn't fit him. Yeah, he didn't like it. Didn't like.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
My dad rode that weed train straight to the grave.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I mean, I'm embarrassed to say how much weed he
was smoking towards the end. But hey, whatever's gonna make
you comfortable.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You know, men outnumber I'm sorry, women outnumber men. Obviously
when it comes to these weight loss injectables. And the
only reason I say obviously is because women tend to
find it more difficult to drop pounds than men.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh, I'm Gary, and I know how hard it is
for women to drop weight.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Diane told me that this week.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
She's like, yeah, it's true. I dropped it pretty quickly.
She's just like, I didn't know twice as hard. Don't
let that cause a rift between you. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
What did you say back to her when she said that,
Because I can see I've seen this movie. I'm trying
to edit this one as.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
We go along. You've been listening to The Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app
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