November 27, 2025 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Do you have Elmer? I forgot to ask? Do you
have the wellness desk?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Do we have an audible?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
Yeah? We do.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I don't remember. It's been so long a while we've
been very unwell.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You know it's been rough.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It has been rough? Has it been rough?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (00:26):
My emotional utility beverage it's fading, starting to has given
me sparkling moves.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
He spends his day at the oppos city, a variety
of activities we should stand up for.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
From some exercise. Lately, I've never exercised day life. You
just got to sit here and wait to die.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Every morning because I smoke a cigarette and for lunch
and love and I usually drink my dinners.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
Periodic Guide for willnesssal Improvement.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Just don't give up is basically the results of this
Canadian longitudinal study on aging. Followed fifty one thousand people
for twenty years. About eighty three hundred elder adults who
reported poor health later regained well being within three years.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, that's the thing when you think about don't give up.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's not like a diet or what have you. It's
a lifestyle. It's like the way you have to live.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeah, and part of it is part of it is
just simple socialization.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I like what they bring up here about the most
important factor, and it plays right into what you just said,
And it's mental health that keeps you healthy. And what
helps with mental health exercising or just not even like
when you say exercise. I think sometimes you think it's
got to be like a whole, it's got to be
a hole to do exactly, and it doesn't. It's a
walk around the block. Committing to a walk around the
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block after dinner every night that will do wonders for
your overall health and mood. You won't need to drink
the chemicals Gary sucking down in his mood enhancing beverage
because you'll already get those dopamine hits and the serotonin
firing up through just moving.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Staying connected doesn't mean you actually have to be an extrovert.
It doesn't mean you have to change your personality because
even one or two close friends can provide some of
that vital support. They said that social isolation Specifically, in
that longitudinal study, social isolation was very strongly linked to
worse outcomes physically, and they used an example ninety one
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year old Florence Sorry Fluorine. She started strength training at
the age of eighty two after she fell down and
said she feels younger at ninety one than she did
at eighty thanks to the consistent workouts. She also lives
in an important point a connected retiret community, so she
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has that sort of the social aspect that goes into it.
I remember my dad when he had a heart attack
in his mid fifty fifty five fifty six. When he
had a heart attack, doctor told him all about changing
your diet, changing your lifestyle, because he was never an
exercise guy, and he would go to the gym six
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days a week, sometimes he would walk to the gym
six days a week. And then had to go through
treatment for prostate cancer and kept up the exercise regimen,
and the doctor said that that's one of the reasons
that he did so well. I mean, he eventually died
from cancer twenty eight years later, but one of the
reasons that he handled the treatment so well is because
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he was in good shape and in his late fifties,
so and he had never really worked out before. Last
time he'd probably lifted a weight was in high school
when he was playing football. So it's never too late,
they said, Even after some sort of setback, whether it's
a fall or another health issue, you can regain your
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well being.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, you think it's a young person's thing.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I think sometimes exercising and it can be so overwhelming
to think about.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
But now the lifestyle habits obviously not smoking or quitting
smoking if you currently do smoke, the healthy diet, the
adequate sleep, and then that consistent exercise, both aerobic and
strength training.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But I mean some of.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
The stuff that some of the wellness topics that come up,
or the headlines that we see are so frustratingly.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Obvious.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, simple drink water. Drinking water gives you so much
more energy if you drink water throughout your day as
opposed to the cup of coffee. Well even like and
it's so simple. It's water, it's what your body's made
out of. It is available wherever you go, and that
will do one. You don't need the expensive skin creams
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and all that stuff. Like see quite literally drink water
and you will feel so much better.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
And energy, and you'll look younger and all the things.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And that's as simple as it gets to your point, Like,
that's quite literally the simplest thing you could say.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
The water thing is what always has I shouldn't say always.
The water thing is something that I'm curious about because
we've always had access to clean water here, right, and
I mean in this country. So when I was growing up,
nobody talked about water. You didn't drink water until you
were thirsty. You play outside for four hours and run inside.
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If you weren't allowed to drink out of the hose
like a real person, and you'd you you'd be dyed.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
That's when you would drink water.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
That's the only time you would drink recreational water.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, And now think about it.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I mean even even ten fifteen years ago, when my
kids were doing like ayso soccer, everybody had to have
their water bottle.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Everybody had it.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I never took a water bottle to a practice in
my life.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
See, you didn't need it as much like the people
who need water are like us. Right, when you're that young,
you're running on freaking adrenaline and metabolism. You got an
energy through the roof, right, You don't realize what it
does for your energy levels until you get older and
you know, you know you're a shriveled prune.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
I am too.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're both shriveled prunes, is what we are. We're not
young and full of water and hydration, and that's why
we didn't drink water as kids. But like, I don't
remember adults drinking water at all. But that's also why
the Golden Girls were like fifty five.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You guys like, well, that's a good point.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
The one the I had a teacher in high school.
She was a French teacher and a drama teacher. She
had sex with her, did not, but she had ex
water with a lot of people. She had an actual
avion tall, like one lead bottle that she would keep
and she would refill it every day, and she was
constantly drinking water.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I always thought that was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Now you can't go anywhere without everybody, like especially a
high school, everyone's got a bottle of water with them.
I mean, this industry, this thing where you get these
big metal contentions. Yeah, this water bottle industry is multi
millions of dollars. Yeah, But thirty years ago it didn't
exist now. If you wanted water, you'd get at a
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paper cup and you'd pour it in the sink in
the break room or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You couldn't buy it, you can.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Well, you'd buy the bottled water like the Arrowhead. Little
bottles of water were.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The first things I remember being around anyway. Okay, gosh,
we got tied up on all this wellness.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
What are we doing nowt steroids?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
What is this story? Steroids turning guys gay? That's not
a thing we'll see. I thought we were beyond this
as a people of things turning people gay.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, Well, our favorite guest I would like to say
that we are blessed with every year is a doctor
Stephen Frohman from City of Hope, and it's always a
pleasure to get together with you and just talk about
what's going on in the cancer research world where we're at.
All the developments, the exciting things that always go on
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at City of Hope in terms of research and advances
that the groundbreaking advances always that we hear about at
City of Hope.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Thank you. It's nice to be here to see the
both of you. It really is.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
So to your point, you know, I come here annually
to see you guys, and so it gives me a
moment to sort of reflect on, So what do we
do this last year that's different than what we talked
about last year? And I can tell you for sure
that all kinds of things have really been amazing. And
the most amazing thing that we're seeing is how immunotherapy
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using the human immune system to treat cancers to completely
continue to grow and grow and grow, and so that
what was a therapy of last resort is not becoming
a therapy of part of the upfront treatment of somebody
with the disease, so we can get their immune system
to do the work of being an anti cancer drug.
And they're increasing numbers of diseases for which that is successful,
(09:19):
and you know one in particular in leukemia that we
you know, we're moving in a direction where a therapy
that would take three years to do and be successful,
we can hopefully get done in six months.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Can you give a basic understanding of what that is?
Somehow you from the outside prompt someone's immune system to
are you are you super powering the immune system to
take on what would already be considered something bad in
the body. How does it even well, I think you've
(09:52):
don't forget your audience here, Yeah, these two more on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So no, no, so you're right.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
What we do is we basically remove cells in the
body and re engineer them. I mean, your own immune
system is there to protect you from infection, viruses, bacteria, fungus,
all that kind of stuff, and generally does a good
agility does a very good job. And what we do
is we take those cells that are already wired to
recognize something and react against it like a virus, and
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teach it, instruct it to react against something on the
cancer cell, drow them up in large numbers and put
them back into the patient and hopefully those cells now
become part of that person's immune system to fight against
the cancer. And we've seen some very dramatic things in
people with very end stage disease so went into remission.
And of course, once we've seen that, the question is, well,
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could we use it up front and be more effective
in curing that person or even taking care of them. So,
you know, the number of diseases that we are attempting
to do that for is growing. There's also work that
is done to sort of use proteins to sort of
engage the immune system inside the body and direct it
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towards the cancer. So all of this is what we
get up in the morning to do and stay up
late at night to finishing them back and do the
same thing the next day. But I think we've talked
about before. When you see people who are benefiting from
your work, you think about those people who if you
had known then what you know now, how much better
the world would be. So it's an exciting time in
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cancer research. There's also the issue of diagnostics. What I
mean by that is what everybody wants is, well, is
there a blood test that you can do, you know,
tell me if I had cancer my body or not.
And that increasingly, I think is going to happen in
the next five years in a way that will be credible.
Where the same way you get your cholesterol checked or
your perhaps smear, prostate exam or whatever, it might be
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a blood test that will say there's something and we
need to go find it.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I just saw a headline a couple of days ago
that said that that there was a blood test that
could detect and I don't remember the number, A few
dozen different types of cancers before any other signs.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
So the trick is to catch to catch it while
you can do something definitive about it. And I think
we're not quite perfectly there yet, but it's going in
that direction where you can detect it and then do
something about it before it becomes even manifest. That's what
we'd love to be able to do. So a person
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before they even have a symptom can have a therapy
to maybe fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Would that be something that would be mass produced, I
mean it would be something that people could do, or
would it be just a small percentage of people that
would be able to take advantage of that initially?
Speaker 8 (12:36):
So what you're really asking is kind of an economic
question and a distribution question from our perspective City of Hope.
The therapies that we develop and try to do, we
want to be abilable to everybody, not just to people
with you know, high end insurance or cash. I do
have people who call me and so they want to
get this blood tests and this scan. Well, like somebody
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might be able to do that, but not everybody can
call the school teach, you're the police officer, the library
and postal worker, or.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Someone who's unemployed.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
So I think from our perspective, we want to develop
a therapy that will not be restricted to one population
or another, to have we're all in this together sort
of approach, which is what we're about.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Speaking of that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We talk about searching for good news to talk about
on this show. And one of the things that makes
you feel very good is when you participate in things
like the Walk for Hope. The Walk for Hope is
going to be on Sunday, November two on Dwarty and
Irvine campuses for City of Hope. This walk raises money,
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of course, for the groundbreaking research that the doctor talks about.
This is also just a great opportunity to be part
of your community and be part of something good that
makes you feel good at the end of the day
that you went out and there you did it. You're
with the people in your community. You're working towards the
same goal of we're all in this together. Nobody has
been untouched by cancer, if not several times unfortunate and
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so this is just a great idea for a great
opportunity for you to get out there and show your
support and just be with people that you love and
people who you live around, and like I said, it
just feels really good at the end of the day.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
So I will be there. I'm part of a group
of people who are going. I'll be wearing my Dodger
shirt of course, of course for the occasion. But it
is exactly as you as you described it. It's they're
all in this together. It's staff, it's patients, it's families.
It's a long, nice walk together. And what's always interestingct
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to me is to be with people outside, you know,
as opposed to That's why I love running into in
more regular circumstances where it's the grocery store or the
baseball game, more normal activities. But it's interesting to be
on campus when you're walking by and people are up
at the hospital looking out the windows at us. They
know that we're out there for them and that, with
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a little luck, you know, they will be part of
what that walk is the following year, and they often are.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Walk dot Cityohope dot org for more information about this
year's Walk for Hope again on Sunday, November second, and
you will know by then whether or not the Dodgers
have picked up their ninth World Series championship.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Doctor Foreman I mean going over your biography is like
you know, going over you know, Freddie Freeman's biography.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We don't need to do it.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
We know just you.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
We know that you're the best.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
We know that you have the propensity to hit the
Grand Slam with cancer research and for forty five years
at City of Hope. And if you want to find
out more about the Walk for Hope again, we will.
We will put this on our website and again the website.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I'm sorry, Walk dot cityo Hope dot org. Perfect, doctor Foreman.
Always an absolute pleasure to see you in here.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
And I will say everybody out there, there's a happy
anniversary to the two.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Of you all together.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You know why not?
Speaker 8 (15:50):
So I think one thing. I think one thing we
learned at City of Hope. And if I could just
say this, then we celebrate all occasions, birthdays, anniversaries, christenings,
bar mitzvahs, and ten year anniversaries of my favorite radio.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Oh okay, very nice, Doctor Foreman. Again, walk dot Cityohope
dot org to find out information about the Walk for
Hope for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
All right, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think I've talked about this before.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I for Christmas last year, I got one of those
fitness tracker rings, right. I wanted it because I wanted
to see what goes on when I sleep.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That was my biggest thing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I felt like sleep wasn't my wasn't my best quality.
Even though I can fall asleep, I don't feel like
I stay asleep as much as I should.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I got one of these little things.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
And you know, every morning tells me how I slept,
gave me, gives me a little score on my phone,
et cetera. And we've talked before about the reliance on
that sort of biometric measures like that to figure out
how you're going to feel for the rest of the day.
If I look at my sleep score and it's a
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sixty nine when it should be a ninety or something
like that, do I then in the back of my
head make excuses and think, Wow, I'm just going to
be dragging today because I got a sixty nine as
opposed to a ninety one. That can have an effect
on how you approach the day. Although my specific little
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app says, hey, sixty nine wasn't great, but don't worry.
It's normal to have nights like those, be gentle with yourself.
It says, there is a new study that suggests that
fitness apps can actually cause problems. Instead of motivation and
support for whatever fitness or lifestyle or health goals you
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might have, it can be discouraging that daily calorie targets
are low, so people joke about starving. Goals that are
generated by an algorithm, ignore you as a person in
sort of your natural human biology, and then targets that
will actually transform healthy eating into an exercise in shame
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and frustration. Because you can eat healthy and consume eighteen
hundred calories throughout the course of a day. But if
your app, for example, is telling you that based on
your height, weight, fitness level, etc. Your goal should be
to consume negative seven hundred calories a day, you can
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run into some problems.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That was what one person wrote on.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Twitter recently, says, so my app says if I want
to reach my goal weight, I need to consume negative
seven hundred calories a day. Another one said, the app
I want to tell you which one should be used
for tracking calories only if you're allowed to prescribe your calories,
you'll end up with the deficit that's unachievable, unsustainable, and
very unhealthy, and you could also starve to death. Well listen, yeah,
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there are people who are going to follow that to
that advice of the negative seven hundred calories. I don't
know how you would do that other than just expending
calories and never eating anything. But other posts describe how
exercising can actually make the targets harder to achieve. That
these apps calculate calories that are burned during workouts and
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then adjust the daily calorie intake recommendations down to maintain
the deficit, and then they feel like they're being penalized
for the fact that they did more physical activity and
that they're starving too often. The other problem, technical glitches
can compound all of this different calorie counts when you're
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sinking the same workout across multiple apps. Phone batteries will
die during mid workout and you don't get credit for
a workout. Software crashes that can erase all of the
progress that you've made. One runner, by the way, got
a personal record for a half marath and then their
phone died before the workout was uploaded.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Now, listen, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
It doesn't matter because you know that you still ran
a record fast half marathon, so that's good. You don't
have to let Strava know that. All your running community
doesn't necessarily need to know that. But they're talking about
unattainable goals that can actually trigger shame in some people. Now,
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if you are aware of what you're doing, you're trying
to live a healthier lifestyle. You're using a tool like
an app to help you gain that, you know, achieve
those goals of that healthier lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's it's a little bit.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Antithetical, it seems for the goal to trigger shame in you,
But there has to be some adjustment that is made,
whether you use a different app that's a little bit
more tuned to your quality of workout, your meals, or
your motivation, whatever it is. But here's this can be
also very funny and you got to laugh it off.
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This thing that you have in your pocket, this phone,
it doesn't have your best interests at heart. It's whatever
you put into it that you're going to get out
of it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Laugh it off.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
For example, there was one response to this quote when
my hate when my fitness pal asks why I haven't
logged my dinner, I haven't logged my dinner friend because
I ate a spice bag and a mild a tub
of ben and Jerry's leave me.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Alone a spice bag. I don't even know what that.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Is, but humor appears as a coping mechanism when all
of this. If you're using fitness apps for your goals,
just know that they come with a lack of awareness
as to who you are specifically, and don't let it
get you down. Just put your socks back on, get
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back out there and run again.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Reddit has a thread that ism ida hole, among other things,
and there are similar questions that show up at other
places about should I have done this differently? USA Today
answers this work question quote. My manager sent me a
text at ten thirty the other night. I didn't see
it until the next morning, and I responded. Then she
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later asked me why I didn't reply that night. This
isn't the first time she's reached out after hours or
on the weekend and expecting an immediate response. I'm afraid
to push back too much for fear of being labeled.
Is constant availability a sign of dedication or dysfunction this business.
We've been told, especially back in the day when news
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director Chris Little hired both Shannon and I in two
thousand and four two thousand and five, basically, you're never
off the clock and if that phone rings, you have
to answer it. So I mean, of course, there were
times where it would be an earthquake or there'd be
some breaking story and you'd have to get up early,
or stay up late, or stay out overnight fires, you know,
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all of those storms, all those things that we would cover.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And I asked for.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Talkbacks about people who have gotten those calls from bosses.
Strange calls, strange hours, maybe you're doing strange things and
the things that you have been asked to do.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, the craziest time I ever had
a boss call me was sometime around ten. You wanted
to write an email with me, so free stayed up
until almost one o'clock, all writing and editing and rewriting
that stupid email. Now, he was the greatest mentor I
ever had, But that was the stupidest waste of time
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I've also ever experienced.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Anyways, let me.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Show Yeah, that is one of those where I can't
understand why they have to be t is time is funny.
Why you need it at that time when you could
have written it first thing in the morning.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Hey Gary, Matt from Temecula.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
So in two thousand and five, I worked for a
car stereo company in Arizona. One of my coworkers had
a brother who worked in the Sinaloa cartel. At closing,
he showed up with a Ford Excursion and about three
thousand dollars with obviously stolen equipment, and paid the three
of us three thousand dollars to install it.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
We were there till two am. Be careful what you do.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm okay.
Speaker 11 (24:35):
I remember getting a call from my dispatch at one
in the morning when I was to sleep, and they
called me in to cover a route that ended up
taking fourteen hours to complete, just because somebody called off
last second.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And it was driving down to San Diego from rialto.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
If it's just a menial task that takes a few minutes,
that's one thing. Even if it is you know, midnight,
you can get back to bed pretty quick. But if
you're doing a full fourteen hour shift on on the
fly like.
Speaker 12 (25:11):
That, Hey Gary, Lisa here, So one time I had
to have no surgery for a deviated septum, and I
came home that day all the packing in my nose,
couldn't even speak, had to write down things to communicate, and.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
My boss was texting me telling me that.
Speaker 12 (25:31):
I need to get my ass to work.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I sent them a picture and said, no, that's my story.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, thank you for your story.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Hey, you guys, this is Bob Hey regarding the being
contact good.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
While you're off, It's a case by case scenario.
Speaker 13 (25:49):
You know, if you want to be a team player
and you want to see at the table with the
big boys, you want to be available and.
Speaker 14 (25:54):
You won't always be there, but it starts getting taken
advantage of.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, then you put your foot dough. So there you go.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
The way that the USA today handled this, by the way,
is they suggested this kind of a response to your boss,
I want to deliver high quality work and be responsive
when it matters most to make sure that I meet
your expectations. Can we clarify when responses are truly time
sensitive versus what can wait until regular business hours? They
described that as professional, not defensive, and that they wrap
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it up this way at the end of the day.
Cultural clarity matters more than calendar control. If you can't
align your values in your workplaces pace, no amount of
boundary setting will fix that mismatch. We asked you earlier,
what are the craziest things that your boss has called
you to do?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Or the craziest hours that they've called you to do?
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Other work stuff stems from an article about whether or
not after hours calls should be allowed depending on where
you work.
Speaker 15 (26:54):
I one time lived in a transitional living center, so
it was like a homes shelter, and I was working
as a prep cook dishwasher at a very nice Italian
restaurant in Ventura, California. And anyways, the general manager thought
because I lived in a homeless shelter, that I would
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know all kinds of prostitutes. And he texted me one
night and asked me if I could find him somebody
for around twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So, wow, I'll think I've ever gotten that?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
What's up Gary? What's up? Sharing? And so I've been
doing passing for for about thirteen years. So about ten
years ago, my boss called me late I'm off the clock,
and he's frantic. They stole her. They stole her. I'm like, who,
they stole his wife. He said.
Speaker 14 (27:42):
Somebody called said they kidnapped his wife and won a
ransom and had me out there in Long Beach looking.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
For his wife.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I know why they didn't call the cops, but I
had his back. That was crazy work.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is pretty crazy work.
Speaker 16 (27:57):
Many years ago, I had a record deal with Capitol
and I was I got married the same year. Was
on my honeymoon and my producer, Slash Boss, called to
ask if I would come and do an appearance on
Club MTV with my musical partner. They knew I was
on my honeymoon, but they asked anyway, so we made
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a detour off we went to New York.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That's show buzess.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, I guess yeah, And that's for a good reason too.
Speaker 17 (28:26):
Well. Back when I first started working, I had a
warehouse job and I had a day off. My manager
called me that day telling me to come in. I
didn't go at all. I didn't an answer his calls.
You have the voicemail tell me to come in. And
a few days later he asked me why I didn't
show up. I told him because I don't answer phone
calls during my off days. And he told me that
I was on call, which I wasn't, and we ended
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up having a huge argument, which ended up in me
telling him if he has an issue, we can go
outside and fight.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I've never been challenged to a fight by a ball again.
What is the craziest thing that a boss has called
you after hours to do?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Good morning, Gary.
Speaker 18 (29:06):
So I was at one time that manager that made
the call. I'm retired, but I worked for a utility
company and when I was on call as a manager
and an emergency would come up, I would have to
call people at home, wake them up to go get
their rigs and go take care of it. Sometimes, you know,
one two in the morning. But I was that guy,
but he just went with the territory.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, I hate being that guy.
Speaker 14 (29:29):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, I don't understand how these bosses
can expect you to answer your phone on your time
off for free. In my trade, we would get called
all hours of night weekends, but once we said hello
and realized it was our dispatch, it was a two
hour minimum. Double time started right there. Wow, Okay, have
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a good day. Benefits of a yeah union, No kidding,
My union doesn't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 14 (29:59):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And Shape? And this is Devion in Vegas.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
I just wanted to react to the boss topic. I
work around the clock at twenty four to seven. My
wife is my boss and anytime of the night she
can want a glass of water or anything. And I'm
one duty.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm sure you guys understand.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yes, this message is for Gary and Shannon. This is
Solomon from Corona. And one time my boss wanted to
me on Christmas. Eas. He wanted me to go in
two in the morning on Christmas Day and fire one
of our employees. I said, Man, I'm Jewish. I'm not
going in on Christmas firing anybody. You want to fire him,
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you do it.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Hey, what crazy?
Speaker 6 (30:46):
You wouldn't go in because you wouldn't go on Christmas
because you're Jewish.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Hey, Gary, it's Mike and the Ie think it time. Yeah.
Speaker 19 (30:53):
I was getting married one time, one of the couple
of times, and my boss called me the morning of
my wedding and was screaming at me because I forgot
to clarify something. The weird thing is this is before
cell phones. I was at my parents' house. I don't
know how he got my parent's phone number. Oh boy,
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I'm putting a tuson and getting my ass shoot at
the same time, it's fun that sounds like a delight.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
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Speaker 6 (31:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Do you have Elmer? I forgot to ask? Do you
have the wellness desk?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Do we have an audible?
Speaker 5 (00:17):
Yeah? We do.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I don't remember. It's been so long a while we've
been very unwell.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You know it's been rough.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It has been rough? Has it been rough?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (00:26):
My emotional utility beverage it's fading, starting to has given
me sparkling moves.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
He spends his day at the oppos city, a variety
of activities we should stand up for.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
From some exercise. Lately, I've never exercised day life. You
just got to sit here and wait to die.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Every morning because I smoke a cigarette and for lunch
and love and I usually drink my dinners.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
Periodic Guide for willnesssal Improvement.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Just don't give up is basically the results of this
Canadian longitudinal study on aging. Followed fifty one thousand people
for twenty years. About eighty three hundred elder adults who
reported poor health later regained well being within three years.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, that's the thing when you think about don't give up.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's not like a diet or what have you. It's
a lifestyle. It's like the way you have to live.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeah, and part of it is part of it is
just simple socialization.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I like what they bring up here about the most
important factor, and it plays right into what you just said,
And it's mental health that keeps you healthy. And what
helps with mental health exercising or just not even like
when you say exercise. I think sometimes you think it's
got to be like a whole, it's got to be
a hole to do exactly, and it doesn't. It's a
walk around the block. Committing to a walk around the
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block after dinner every night that will do wonders for
your overall health and mood. You won't need to drink
the chemicals Gary sucking down in his mood enhancing beverage
because you'll already get those dopamine hits and the serotonin
firing up through just moving.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Staying connected doesn't mean you actually have to be an extrovert.
It doesn't mean you have to change your personality because
even one or two close friends can provide some of
that vital support. They said that social isolation Specifically, in
that longitudinal study, social isolation was very strongly linked to
worse outcomes physically, and they used an example ninety one
(02:40):
year old Florence Sorry Fluorine. She started strength training at
the age of eighty two after she fell down and
said she feels younger at ninety one than she did
at eighty thanks to the consistent workouts. She also lives
in an important point a connected retiret community, so she
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has that sort of the social aspect that goes into it.
I remember my dad when he had a heart attack
in his mid fifty fifty five fifty six. When he
had a heart attack, doctor told him all about changing
your diet, changing your lifestyle, because he was never an
exercise guy, and he would go to the gym six
(03:25):
days a week, sometimes he would walk to the gym
six days a week. And then had to go through
treatment for prostate cancer and kept up the exercise regimen,
and the doctor said that that's one of the reasons
that he did so well. I mean, he eventually died
from cancer twenty eight years later, but one of the
reasons that he handled the treatment so well is because
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he was in good shape and in his late fifties,
so and he had never really worked out before. Last
time he'd probably lifted a weight was in high school
when he was playing football. So it's never too late,
they said, Even after some sort of setback, whether it's
a fall or another health issue, you can regain your
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well being.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, you think it's a young person's thing.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I think sometimes exercising and it can be so overwhelming
to think about.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
But now the lifestyle habits obviously not smoking or quitting
smoking if you currently do smoke, the healthy diet, the
adequate sleep, and then that consistent exercise, both aerobic and
strength training.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But I mean some of.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
The stuff that some of the wellness topics that come up,
or the headlines that we see are so frustratingly.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Obvious.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, simple drink water. Drinking water gives you so much
more energy if you drink water throughout your day as
opposed to the cup of coffee. Well even like and
it's so simple. It's water, it's what your body's made
out of. It is available wherever you go, and that
will do one. You don't need the expensive skin creams
(04:58):
and all that stuff. Like see quite literally drink water
and you will feel so much better.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
And energy, and you'll look younger and all the things.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And that's as simple as it gets to your point, Like,
that's quite literally the simplest thing you could say.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
The water thing is what always has I shouldn't say always.
The water thing is something that I'm curious about because
we've always had access to clean water here, right, and
I mean in this country. So when I was growing up,
nobody talked about water. You didn't drink water until you
were thirsty. You play outside for four hours and run inside.
(05:33):
If you weren't allowed to drink out of the hose
like a real person, and you'd you you'd be dyed.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
That's when you would drink water.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
That's the only time you would drink recreational water.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, And now think about it.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I mean even even ten fifteen years ago, when my
kids were doing like ayso soccer, everybody had to have
their water bottle.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Everybody had it.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I never took a water bottle to a practice in
my life.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
See, you didn't need it as much like the people
who need water are like us. Right, when you're that young,
you're running on freaking adrenaline and metabolism. You got an
energy through the roof, right, You don't realize what it
does for your energy levels until you get older and
you know, you know you're a shriveled prune.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
I am too.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're both shriveled prunes, is what we are. We're not
young and full of water and hydration, and that's why
we didn't drink water as kids. But like, I don't
remember adults drinking water at all. But that's also why
the Golden Girls were like fifty five.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You guys like, well, that's a good point.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
The one the I had a teacher in high school.
She was a French teacher and a drama teacher. She
had sex with her, did not, but she had ex
water with a lot of people. She had an actual
avion tall, like one lead bottle that she would keep
and she would refill it every day, and she was
constantly drinking water.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I always thought that was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Now you can't go anywhere without everybody, like especially a
high school, everyone's got a bottle of water with them.
I mean, this industry, this thing where you get these
big metal contentions. Yeah, this water bottle industry is multi
millions of dollars. Yeah, But thirty years ago it didn't
exist now. If you wanted water, you'd get at a
(07:21):
paper cup and you'd pour it in the sink in
the break room or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You couldn't buy it, you can.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Well, you'd buy the bottled water like the Arrowhead. Little
bottles of water were.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The first things I remember being around anyway. Okay, gosh,
we got tied up on all this wellness.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
What are we doing nowt steroids?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
What is this story? Steroids turning guys gay? That's not
a thing we'll see. I thought we were beyond this
as a people of things turning people gay.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, Well, our favorite guest I would like to say
that we are blessed with every year is a doctor
Stephen Frohman from City of Hope, and it's always a
pleasure to get together with you and just talk about
what's going on in the cancer research world where we're at.
All the developments, the exciting things that always go on
(08:21):
at City of Hope in terms of research and advances
that the groundbreaking advances always that we hear about at
City of Hope.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Thank you. It's nice to be here to see the
both of you. It really is.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
So to your point, you know, I come here annually
to see you guys, and so it gives me a
moment to sort of reflect on, So what do we
do this last year that's different than what we talked
about last year? And I can tell you for sure
that all kinds of things have really been amazing. And
the most amazing thing that we're seeing is how immunotherapy
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using the human immune system to treat cancers to completely
continue to grow and grow and grow, and so that
what was a therapy of last resort is not becoming
a therapy of part of the upfront treatment of somebody
with the disease, so we can get their immune system
to do the work of being an anti cancer drug.
And they're increasing numbers of diseases for which that is successful,
(09:19):
and you know one in particular in leukemia that we
you know, we're moving in a direction where a therapy
that would take three years to do and be successful,
we can hopefully get done in six months.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Can you give a basic understanding of what that is?
Somehow you from the outside prompt someone's immune system to
are you are you super powering the immune system to
take on what would already be considered something bad in
the body. How does it even well, I think you've
(09:52):
don't forget your audience here, Yeah, these two more on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So no, no, so you're right.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
What we do is we basically remove cells in the
body and re engineer them. I mean, your own immune
system is there to protect you from infection, viruses, bacteria, fungus,
all that kind of stuff, and generally does a good
agility does a very good job. And what we do
is we take those cells that are already wired to
recognize something and react against it like a virus, and
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teach it, instruct it to react against something on the
cancer cell, drow them up in large numbers and put
them back into the patient and hopefully those cells now
become part of that person's immune system to fight against
the cancer. And we've seen some very dramatic things in
people with very end stage disease so went into remission.
And of course, once we've seen that, the question is, well,
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could we use it up front and be more effective
in curing that person or even taking care of them. So,
you know, the number of diseases that we are attempting
to do that for is growing. There's also work that
is done to sort of use proteins to sort of
engage the immune system inside the body and direct it
(11:03):
towards the cancer. So all of this is what we
get up in the morning to do and stay up
late at night to finishing them back and do the
same thing the next day. But I think we've talked
about before. When you see people who are benefiting from
your work, you think about those people who if you
had known then what you know now, how much better
the world would be. So it's an exciting time in
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cancer research. There's also the issue of diagnostics. What I
mean by that is what everybody wants is, well, is
there a blood test that you can do, you know,
tell me if I had cancer my body or not.
And that increasingly, I think is going to happen in
the next five years in a way that will be credible.
Where the same way you get your cholesterol checked or
your perhaps smear, prostate exam or whatever, it might be
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a blood test that will say there's something and we
need to go find it.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I just saw a headline a couple of days ago
that said that that there was a blood test that
could detect and I don't remember the number, A few
dozen different types of cancers before any other signs.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
So the trick is to catch to catch it while
you can do something definitive about it. And I think
we're not quite perfectly there yet, but it's going in
that direction where you can detect it and then do
something about it before it becomes even manifest. That's what
we'd love to be able to do. So a person
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before they even have a symptom can have a therapy
to maybe fix the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Would that be something that would be mass produced, I
mean it would be something that people could do, or
would it be just a small percentage of people that
would be able to take advantage of that initially?
Speaker 8 (12:36):
So what you're really asking is kind of an economic
question and a distribution question from our perspective City of Hope.
The therapies that we develop and try to do, we
want to be abilable to everybody, not just to people
with you know, high end insurance or cash. I do
have people who call me and so they want to
get this blood tests and this scan. Well, like somebody
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might be able to do that, but not everybody can
call the school teach, you're the police officer, the library
and postal worker, or.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Someone who's unemployed.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
So I think from our perspective, we want to develop
a therapy that will not be restricted to one population
or another, to have we're all in this together sort
of approach, which is what we're about.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Speaking of that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We talk about searching for good news to talk about
on this show. And one of the things that makes
you feel very good is when you participate in things
like the Walk for Hope. The Walk for Hope is
going to be on Sunday, November two on Dwarty and
Irvine campuses for City of Hope. This walk raises money,
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of course, for the groundbreaking research that the doctor talks about.
This is also just a great opportunity to be part
of your community and be part of something good that
makes you feel good at the end of the day
that you went out and there you did it. You're
with the people in your community. You're working towards the
same goal of we're all in this together. Nobody has
been untouched by cancer, if not several times unfortunate and
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so this is just a great idea for a great
opportunity for you to get out there and show your
support and just be with people that you love and
people who you live around, and like I said, it
just feels really good at the end of the day.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
So I will be there. I'm part of a group
of people who are going. I'll be wearing my Dodger
shirt of course, of course for the occasion. But it
is exactly as you as you described it. It's they're
all in this together. It's staff, it's patients, it's families.
It's a long, nice walk together. And what's always interestingct
(14:34):
to me is to be with people outside, you know,
as opposed to That's why I love running into in
more regular circumstances where it's the grocery store or the
baseball game, more normal activities. But it's interesting to be
on campus when you're walking by and people are up
at the hospital looking out the windows at us. They
know that we're out there for them and that, with
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a little luck, you know, they will be part of
what that walk is the following year, and they often are.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Walk dot Cityohope dot org for more information about this
year's Walk for Hope again on Sunday, November second, and
you will know by then whether or not the Dodgers
have picked up their ninth World Series championship.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Doctor Foreman I mean going over your biography is like
you know, going over you know, Freddie Freeman's biography.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We don't need to do it.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
We know just you.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
We know that you're the best.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
We know that you have the propensity to hit the
Grand Slam with cancer research and for forty five years
at City of Hope. And if you want to find
out more about the Walk for Hope again, we will.
We will put this on our website and again the website.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I'm sorry, Walk dot cityo Hope dot org. Perfect, doctor Foreman.
Always an absolute pleasure to see you in here.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
And I will say everybody out there, there's a happy
anniversary to the two.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Of you all together.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You know why not?
Speaker 8 (15:50):
So I think one thing. I think one thing we
learned at City of Hope. And if I could just
say this, then we celebrate all occasions, birthdays, anniversaries, christenings,
bar mitzvahs, and ten year anniversaries of my favorite radio.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Oh okay, very nice, Doctor Foreman. Again, walk dot Cityohope
dot org to find out information about the Walk for
Hope for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
All right, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think I've talked about this before.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I for Christmas last year, I got one of those
fitness tracker rings, right. I wanted it because I wanted
to see what goes on when I sleep.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That was my biggest thing.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I felt like sleep wasn't my wasn't my best quality.
Even though I can fall asleep, I don't feel like
I stay asleep as much as I should.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I got one of these little things.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
And you know, every morning tells me how I slept,
gave me, gives me a little score on my phone,
et cetera. And we've talked before about the reliance on
that sort of biometric measures like that to figure out
how you're going to feel for the rest of the day.
If I look at my sleep score and it's a
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sixty nine when it should be a ninety or something
like that, do I then in the back of my
head make excuses and think, Wow, I'm just going to
be dragging today because I got a sixty nine as
opposed to a ninety one. That can have an effect
on how you approach the day. Although my specific little
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app says, hey, sixty nine wasn't great, but don't worry.
It's normal to have nights like those, be gentle with yourself.
It says, there is a new study that suggests that
fitness apps can actually cause problems. Instead of motivation and
support for whatever fitness or lifestyle or health goals you
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might have, it can be discouraging that daily calorie targets
are low, so people joke about starving. Goals that are
generated by an algorithm, ignore you as a person in
sort of your natural human biology, and then targets that
will actually transform healthy eating into an exercise in shame
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and frustration. Because you can eat healthy and consume eighteen
hundred calories throughout the course of a day. But if
your app, for example, is telling you that based on
your height, weight, fitness level, etc. Your goal should be
to consume negative seven hundred calories a day, you can
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run into some problems.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That was what one person wrote on.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Twitter recently, says, so my app says if I want
to reach my goal weight, I need to consume negative
seven hundred calories a day. Another one said, the app
I want to tell you which one should be used
for tracking calories only if you're allowed to prescribe your calories,
you'll end up with the deficit that's unachievable, unsustainable, and
very unhealthy, and you could also starve to death. Well listen, yeah,
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there are people who are going to follow that to
that advice of the negative seven hundred calories. I don't
know how you would do that other than just expending
calories and never eating anything. But other posts describe how
exercising can actually make the targets harder to achieve. That
these apps calculate calories that are burned during workouts and
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then adjust the daily calorie intake recommendations down to maintain
the deficit, and then they feel like they're being penalized
for the fact that they did more physical activity and
that they're starving too often. The other problem, technical glitches
can compound all of this different calorie counts when you're
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sinking the same workout across multiple apps. Phone batteries will
die during mid workout and you don't get credit for
a workout. Software crashes that can erase all of the
progress that you've made. One runner, by the way, got
a personal record for a half marath and then their
phone died before the workout was uploaded.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Now, listen, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
It doesn't matter because you know that you still ran
a record fast half marathon, so that's good. You don't
have to let Strava know that. All your running community
doesn't necessarily need to know that. But they're talking about
unattainable goals that can actually trigger shame in some people. Now,
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if you are aware of what you're doing, you're trying
to live a healthier lifestyle. You're using a tool like
an app to help you gain that, you know, achieve
those goals of that healthier lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's it's a little bit.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Antithetical, it seems for the goal to trigger shame in you,
But there has to be some adjustment that is made,
whether you use a different app that's a little bit
more tuned to your quality of workout, your meals, or
your motivation, whatever it is. But here's this can be
also very funny and you got to laugh it off.
(21:06):
This thing that you have in your pocket, this phone,
it doesn't have your best interests at heart. It's whatever
you put into it that you're going to get out
of it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Laugh it off.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
For example, there was one response to this quote when
my hate when my fitness pal asks why I haven't
logged my dinner, I haven't logged my dinner friend because
I ate a spice bag and a mild a tub
of ben and Jerry's leave me.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Alone a spice bag. I don't even know what that.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Is, but humor appears as a coping mechanism when all
of this. If you're using fitness apps for your goals,
just know that they come with a lack of awareness
as to who you are specifically, and don't let it
get you down. Just put your socks back on, get
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back out there and run again.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Reddit has a thread that ism ida hole, among other things,
and there are similar questions that show up at other
places about should I have done this differently? USA Today
answers this work question quote. My manager sent me a
text at ten thirty the other night. I didn't see
it until the next morning, and I responded. Then she
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later asked me why I didn't reply that night. This
isn't the first time she's reached out after hours or
on the weekend and expecting an immediate response. I'm afraid
to push back too much for fear of being labeled.
Is constant availability a sign of dedication or dysfunction this business.
We've been told, especially back in the day when news
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director Chris Little hired both Shannon and I in two
thousand and four two thousand and five, basically, you're never
off the clock and if that phone rings, you have
to answer it. So I mean, of course, there were
times where it would be an earthquake or there'd be
some breaking story and you'd have to get up early,
or stay up late, or stay out overnight fires, you know,
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all of those storms, all those things that we would cover.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And I asked for.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Talkbacks about people who have gotten those calls from bosses.
Strange calls, strange hours, maybe you're doing strange things and
the things that you have been asked to do.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, the craziest time I ever had
a boss call me was sometime around ten. You wanted
to write an email with me, so free stayed up
until almost one o'clock, all writing and editing and rewriting
that stupid email. Now, he was the greatest mentor I
ever had, But that was the stupidest waste of time
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I've also ever experienced.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Anyways, let me.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Show Yeah, that is one of those where I can't
understand why they have to be t is time is funny.
Why you need it at that time when you could
have written it first thing in the morning.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Hey Gary, Matt from Temecula.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
So in two thousand and five, I worked for a
car stereo company in Arizona. One of my coworkers had
a brother who worked in the Sinaloa cartel. At closing,
he showed up with a Ford Excursion and about three
thousand dollars with obviously stolen equipment, and paid the three
of us three thousand dollars to install it.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
We were there till two am. Be careful what you do.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm okay.
Speaker 11 (24:35):
I remember getting a call from my dispatch at one
in the morning when I was to sleep, and they
called me in to cover a route that ended up
taking fourteen hours to complete, just because somebody called off
last second.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And it was driving down to San Diego from rialto.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
If it's just a menial task that takes a few minutes,
that's one thing. Even if it is you know, midnight,
you can get back to bed pretty quick. But if
you're doing a full fourteen hour shift on on the
fly like.
Speaker 12 (25:11):
That, Hey Gary, Lisa here, So one time I had
to have no surgery for a deviated septum, and I
came home that day all the packing in my nose,
couldn't even speak, had to write down things to communicate, and.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
My boss was texting me telling me that.
Speaker 12 (25:31):
I need to get my ass to work.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I sent them a picture and said, no, that's my story.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, thank you for your story.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Hey, you guys, this is Bob Hey regarding the being
contact good.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
While you're off, It's a case by case scenario.
Speaker 13 (25:49):
You know, if you want to be a team player
and you want to see at the table with the
big boys, you want to be available and.
Speaker 14 (25:54):
You won't always be there, but it starts getting taken
advantage of.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, then you put your foot dough. So there you go.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
The way that the USA today handled this, by the way,
is they suggested this kind of a response to your boss,
I want to deliver high quality work and be responsive
when it matters most to make sure that I meet
your expectations. Can we clarify when responses are truly time
sensitive versus what can wait until regular business hours? They
described that as professional, not defensive, and that they wrap
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it up this way at the end of the day.
Cultural clarity matters more than calendar control. If you can't
align your values in your workplaces pace, no amount of
boundary setting will fix that mismatch. We asked you earlier,
what are the craziest things that your boss has called
you to do?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Or the craziest hours that they've called you to do?
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Other work stuff stems from an article about whether or
not after hours calls should be allowed depending on where
you work.
Speaker 15 (26:54):
I one time lived in a transitional living center, so
it was like a homes shelter, and I was working
as a prep cook dishwasher at a very nice Italian
restaurant in Ventura, California. And anyways, the general manager thought
because I lived in a homeless shelter, that I would
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know all kinds of prostitutes. And he texted me one
night and asked me if I could find him somebody
for around twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So, wow, I'll think I've ever gotten that?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
What's up Gary? What's up? Sharing? And so I've been
doing passing for for about thirteen years. So about ten
years ago, my boss called me late I'm off the clock,
and he's frantic. They stole her. They stole her. I'm like, who,
they stole his wife. He said.
Speaker 14 (27:42):
Somebody called said they kidnapped his wife and won a
ransom and had me out there in Long Beach looking.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
For his wife.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I know why they didn't call the cops, but I
had his back. That was crazy work.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is pretty crazy work.
Speaker 16 (27:57):
Many years ago, I had a record deal with Capitol
and I was I got married the same year. Was
on my honeymoon and my producer, Slash Boss, called to
ask if I would come and do an appearance on
Club MTV with my musical partner. They knew I was
on my honeymoon, but they asked anyway, so we made
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a detour off we went to New York.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That's show buzess.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well, I guess yeah, And that's for a good reason too.
Speaker 17 (28:26):
Well. Back when I first started working, I had a
warehouse job and I had a day off. My manager
called me that day telling me to come in. I
didn't go at all. I didn't an answer his calls.
You have the voicemail tell me to come in. And
a few days later he asked me why I didn't
show up. I told him because I don't answer phone
calls during my off days. And he told me that
I was on call, which I wasn't, and we ended
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up having a huge argument, which ended up in me
telling him if he has an issue, we can go
outside and fight.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I've never been challenged to a fight by a ball again.
What is the craziest thing that a boss has called
you after hours to do?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Good morning, Gary.
Speaker 18 (29:06):
So I was at one time that manager that made
the call. I'm retired, but I worked for a utility
company and when I was on call as a manager
and an emergency would come up, I would have to
call people at home, wake them up to go get
their rigs and go take care of it. Sometimes, you know,
one two in the morning. But I was that guy,
but he just went with the territory.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, I hate being that guy.
Speaker 14 (29:29):
Hey, Gary and Shannon, I don't understand how these bosses
can expect you to answer your phone on your time
off for free. In my trade, we would get called
all hours of night weekends, but once we said hello
and realized it was our dispatch, it was a two
hour minimum. Double time started right there. Wow, Okay, have
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a good day. Benefits of a yeah union, No kidding,
My union doesn't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 14 (29:59):
Gary?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And Shape? And this is Devion in Vegas.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
I just wanted to react to the boss topic. I
work around the clock at twenty four to seven. My
wife is my boss and anytime of the night she
can want a glass of water or anything. And I'm
one duty.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm sure you guys understand.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yes, this message is for Gary and Shannon. This is
Solomon from Corona. And one time my boss wanted to
me on Christmas. Eas. He wanted me to go in
two in the morning on Christmas Day and fire one
of our employees. I said, Man, I'm Jewish. I'm not
going in on Christmas firing anybody. You want to fire him,
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you do it.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Hey, what crazy?
Speaker 6 (30:46):
You wouldn't go in because you wouldn't go on Christmas
because you're Jewish.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Hey, Gary, it's Mike and the Ie think it time. Yeah.
Speaker 19 (30:53):
I was getting married one time, one of the couple
of times, and my boss called me the morning of
my wedding and was screaming at me because I forgot
to clarify something. The weird thing is this is before
cell phones. I was at my parents' house. I don't
know how he got my parent's phone number. Oh boy,
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I'm putting a tuson and getting my ass shoot at
the same time, it's fun that sounds like a delight.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
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