August 24, 2025 • 17 mins
With 3I/Atlas closing in, Gary and Shannon tackle the big questions: Are aliens real? If they show up, will they phone home—or phone us? And the ultimate dilemma: hop on board, or stay on Earth? Plus, our very own sound technician Elmer joins the adventure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. So we had our first
show meeting a week ago, two weeks ago ago, whatever
it was. So we had the lunch at this lovely
mediterranean place that you picked. It was delicious. Ps Like,
(00:22):
that was really good food.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That was our former boss used to used to get
that a lot, and I really liked it. My wife
and I've been there handful of time.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But I've never been there. I've only had it here,
which is fine, but it's it's better there.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Shout them out. It's Soda Restaurant right there on Alameda
and Burbank Sott a really.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Cool place, great food and healthy. Like it's just it's
hard to get both of those things, and they nail it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
This is the Weekend Fix. This is our podcast that
we throw together just to you know.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We certainly did, certainly threw it together just to try
to get you know, if you start having the shakes
early Saturday morning because you realize it around nine o'clock,
We're not going to talk to you, yeah, because I.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Mean I'm already think so I'm already feeling withdrawals from
seeing your feet today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It was a lot to take in and then get
nothing Like the next day you get nothing whole.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
By the way, about whether or not people wanted to
start an only fans page.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Just pretty even.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, pretty easy.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Terrifying.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's a little terrifying.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, it'd be worse if it was one hundred percent. Yes,
it was. It was like fifty forty eight.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And what if what if it was just I had
some gnarly ass talent feet with well and the yellowed.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Old that's what I think could get you the money?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You think so?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But anyway, we'll work on.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So we have this.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Great show lunch, right, we have this great show producer
Keen and technical X. What title do you want, Elmer?
I don't think we've ever really technical director. Is that
what you prefer?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
No, just I think sound guy.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Sound master, gas sound master.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sound developer, sound sculptor.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Sound creator.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Elmer. Yes, he's sitting at our he's sitting obviously, we're
sitting at the same table.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Elmer has great creative ideas. He's the newest member of
our team. We are so stoked to have him on board.
He's full of creativity and like wonderful energy. It's a
delight to come to work and have Elmer's energy. It
really is, like it is. It is a game changer
when you have a team full of good energy. If
there's just one thing that's kind of a miss and
(02:30):
someone's bringing like some some weird energy kind of throws
things off. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a child
and I'm susceptible to that, but it is like manipulated,
that's easily.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But manipulated it's not the right word. Easily influenced.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I can get sucked into someone's bad energy.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, and I apologize that oftentimes I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The It's okay, you're working through it. Your filter is
getting stronger. I'm just kidding. But anyway, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
That was amazing and foremost I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Like that, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, I appreciate you too.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Because want me to leave.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So we're sitting, we're talking around the show and it's
like an hour whatever where you've eaten and like I
had like a Arnold Palmer delicious, but like I got
a pee at this point, you know what I mean.
And Gary had gone to use the restroom. So I
know there's a restroom there, and I'm like, I went first, right,
And so we're kind of wrapping up but not totally.
But it's again the first time the four of us
(03:29):
are together, so like, there's tons to talk about. We
could have been there for hours, but anyway, I gotta
go pee. So I and I had been holding it
for a while. This is so I should not have
brought this up, but anyway, so I had to peete.
So I go to the bathroom and.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Uh, sorry folks moved out.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Sorry sorry folks, but both bathrooms are out of order,
and I'm like, huh. So then I'm like I started
go back to the table. I'm sitting there. I'm like,
you gotta wrap this up because I got a pee,
and I'm thinking about my drive home, which is usually
about thirty five minutes, but after an hour, I'm doing
all this mouth in my head while people are still talking,
and I'm like, yeah, i'll probably be a forty five minutes,
(04:08):
but if that two tens backed up, man, I'm gonna
be fifteen minutes. Should I pee somewhere else? Should I
stop in a gas station?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Ad?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's kind of gross. This is all going on, and
then they're still talking about the show, and then all
of a sudden, I hear Elmer say, so do you
guys believe in aliens? And I'm like, oh shit, like
so much lower.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Your response was so great. You're like, I gotta pee.
I don't have time for this. And then that was
the end of all.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But like I totally wanted to talk about it. I
just I just was dealing with that timetable in my head.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That was a good That was probably the best reaction.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It was just honest.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It was very honest.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know, I don't have time for this. I don't
have time for alien.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Believe alien.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's like a loaded conversation that's not like a we'll
address this in ninety seconds and be out of here.
That's why I had to just like drop the hammer.
You know, do you believe? I do? I do? Because
I feel like there's way too much out there, way
too much space. Yeah, way too much, too many chance avaliability,
(05:13):
too many chances.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
For something to live that's not like us. Yes, okay,
I don't. I have no idea. I mean, I I'm
I tend to lean that way, like if you try
to wrap your head around the size of the universe. No,
if you try to wrap your head around the size
of the Milky Way galaxy and then expand that to
(05:39):
there are hundreds of thousands of other galaxies in the universe,
it hurts, like you, We are not built this stupid
gray fleshy you know, meat, bag of bones and milk
or fluids some people have milk in them. Is not
designed to wrap our heads around that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We only use you know, eight to ten percent of
our brain clearly, and I know enough to know that
I don't know one millionth of what's out there aside
from our dumbass milk bones or whatever concoction you made.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Of us bag of bones and milk.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Elmer, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So, basically, if you think about us as humans, like
this meat sac that we have limits us in like
what we can listen to and frequencies, and we can
see with color. So I think that there's this whole
plane of existence like in front of us that we
can't see, that our cast can see, that our dogs
can hear, like all these different creatures or insects can
(06:41):
see differently to what's really out there. And I think
aliens live in that in between and maybe this like
rock ship coming, it's just like another form of it,
one that's closer to the frequency that we're vibrating.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
On three I at lis that thing, whatever that is,
it's making its way towards our solar systems.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You don't necessarily you you believe maybe that they're on
the same plane as us, but at a different frequency,
like they're here but at a different frequency.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah. So when people see ghosts and stuff, it's just
like maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
When we die, someone's getting too close to the edge.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Exactly, you know, Or like psychic mediums maybe they have
like these senses that you know, like our cats have
when they're just staring at the wall and you know
they're saying something.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So it's just like different people have different abilities, or
you can meditate enough to kind of like slow your
thoughts enough to really pick up different things, and it's
just yeah, I think aliens, spirituality, all of that, it's
all just that mystery goo. I think that's where it
all is. And we're either going to be able to
experience it when that big rock thing comes, or.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Maybe they're already here or you're not mystery you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well so I'm I appreciate when I mean, I've said
multiple times I just read this book, the Project Hail Mary,
and there is alien life the book without giving away
too much. I appreciate when an author, a movie maker
something like that stretches the bounds of imagination in terms
(08:12):
of figuring out what an alien life form would look like.
When we did Star Trek back in the late sixties
and early seventies, that was not a big stretch like
the the what made up something an alien was blue skin.
But they still reproduced the same way. That's why. That's
why Captain Stubing, No, that was love boat, Captain Kirk
(08:35):
why he was getting laid all the time on these
foreign planets, because they still did sex the same way
we did it was I never watched it, which which
wouldn't make which that's.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Live, long and prosperous. Yes, that spock, which would he
didn't get laid?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No, No, he had no, I mean I don't friend.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh okay, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It was later Captain Kirk was. But there's no creativity when.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
James will Shadow William James t he was getting in there. Huh, yeah,
that was part.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Of the whole thing, is like he was such a
handsome young human captain that all the alien ladies, I
assume they were ladies, see that. But again that that
wasn't a big stretch. The aliens back then were just
very Cuminoida.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Was more like Dylan, and William Shatner was more like Brandon.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's exactly what I was getting at.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Who's that? Who's Dylan?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Nineteen ninety four?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The original, by the way, not the rebook.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, the original.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But I appreciate when when a creator like that stretches
the bounds of what an alien is supposed to be.
We think of it like alien is a green human
with three eyes, when whatever the alien is that lives
outside of our solar system may look nothing like us
and may not function the way.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Do you think they even have a body? Elmer, That's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
If they're like if they're like not physical, and there
could be like gaseous or like sonic like creatures.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Or moss.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I mean, I mean, it could be something as simple
as which again is I'm going against my own thing
because I'm now trying to make it similar to something
that we have on Earth, where it wouldn't be anything
like what we have.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Because you're trying to wrap your head around it. But
I don't know if you can.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, that's what I'm saying is there's there's a skill
in that letting go of your imagination, like letting go
of the limitations of your imagination. Are we high? I
feel like we're high?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Right?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
What if the moss comes from space, but it's a
space moss that spreads throughout the whole.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Octopus. Okay, there's a lot of people who believe the
octopus is an alien creature because there's nothing brilliance, very
few like it on earth.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And octopus is smarter than you. An octopus is smarter
than the average person. It's true. Oh yeah, I have
a book. I'll give it to you. It's called My
Brilliant It's called stand By. No, no, it's not my
friend the octopus.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Brilliant creatures, Brilliant. What is it called?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's an incredible book, Elmer like, I'm going to get
it for you today. It's called Remarkably Bright Creatures.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Is it like a big one or a small one?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
A small book?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
By the way, an octopus, remember, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I love That's why I said it's smarter than you.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It remembers like it remembers interactions it has with humans,
it remembers objects. It is a brilliant creature.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But again, we can't we can't limit it to the
way we judge exact intelligence exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's a different barometer. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because we're human and we eat everything.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
But isn't there a law we can't eat smart creatures
or what should be?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, no, there's no law law.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
There is no people eat octopus all the time. You
go to nothing but octopus.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I mean you could eat dolphins.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Petrost and get breast milk.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You got OCTOPI I'm sure there are probably laws against
certain animals, but not necessarily because of their intelligence.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, there's laws against eating whales.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Oh, we can't eat peapa.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, but that's not because they're intelligent. It's because they're
raw running out. We eat pigs. Pigs are as smart
as dogs, and in some cases probably.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Smarlready eat pigs anymore. But we love our dogs in
the afternoon. I still do in the evening. Why do
you not more? Not in the morning because of the
cholesterol number.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I don't think you need to be worried about cholesterol.
I'm worried that you're working.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It was really high. It was like five hundred and
sixty as opposed to the high level of two fifty.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Okay, all right, well I.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Touched out the bacon and I got down to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Three is a good score.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The bacon was a good idea to cut. I don't
think eating bacon every morning at my age is probably smart.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, at your age, you're not an old person.
Aliens live to be like thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You just say that because you're older than me, which makes.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It really I want to eat bacon every day, you can't. Don't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, but that's off bacon. It's chemicals and it's turkey bacon,
and ship will give you cancer. Alien it smells like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Barbut yeah, okay, I hate turkey.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It shouldn't even be called you know what, There should
be a law against calling that bacon. It should just
be called turkey strips or some ship, right, like turkey
crap you put in a pan because you're, you know,
worried about your cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
All right, murder, Yeah, let's discuss. Let's discuss the Close
Encounters of the Third kind. Question, do you know the movie?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It all?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Never mind if you've never watched it and you are
thinking of aliens, You've got to watch also watch It's
really it's a I remember being a scary, scary movie
when I was a kid. It's a really well done movie.
You got to check it out. Here's the question, we'll
spacecraft comes down. Let's say three I Atlas hovers around
(14:05):
uh the Earth and puts out an invitation. I will go.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I will go.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Will you go? We're going.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's a no return, no return down.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I've done, I've done what I want to do here,
like I'm ready to explore.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Okay, if you can.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's a different world.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You don't break you down. Yeah a body.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
We may not have a ball. We may just be
a sound.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
They may just yeah, they may just download whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Is like our essence.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So our bodies will just drop. So that's just that's
the rupture, like empty.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Maybe that's what it is, Holy ship. Maybe that's what
it is.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Guys, dum Jesus is an alien?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh my god, No, let's way out that.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But yeah, I will go with the aliens. I will yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Af that Diane, I feel like she would go, you
only get you get one e. No, there's no plus one.
The aliens are not extending a plus one. That's the
whole choice is like you have to give up everything
that you have here now plus Well, maybe they do
have weddings on the spacecraft.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well here's the thing. It's not like you're living your
life here there. It's a different thing.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, But again, let's not attach.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Our outstanding of what life is to.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
What because you make it sound like I'm going to
go to Estonia. What if they get you into their
spacecraft and then dissect seven billion cells into individual spaces,
You're immediately dead.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's a different experience. It's a new chapter.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I'm gonna go. But like, they have to have a pitch.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
They look at your feet too.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You have to have a pitch.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, Like, we'll give you this. It can't just be
a mystery.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But you're still thinking like a human. Yeah, you've got
to get out like that. You've got to open your eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You're thinking like an alien.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Right, you're right, I'm sorry. I'm gonna do better.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
If you're happy here, stay here, Like I'm happy here too,
but I'm just willing to see what's out there and
change my life form.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay, they take different cell boxes in like ten years,
I feel like I'd be one hundred percent right now,
I'm seventy.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You've got things you want to do, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You'd listen to the pitch now. But but it's not
a guarant You.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Know, you've never been arrested at Disneyland. You haven't seen
Gary Pole dance at a gay bar in Philadelphia. I've
done these things.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That is a full life.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You haven't seen the forty nine ers lose a Super
Bowl three times?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I have?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You just described it very fore.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You come back for us, Dan, and we would come
back ten years they.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Put you back to mean, I don't know. I don't know.
It's like it's a personal decision that you guys have
to make. I can't make it for you.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
If you miss any part of our show during the week,
you can always go back and check out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. So we had our first
show meeting a week ago, two weeks ago ago, whatever
it was. So we had the lunch at this lovely
mediterranean place that you picked. It was delicious. Ps Like,
(00:22):
that was really good food.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That was our former boss used to used to get
that a lot, and I really liked it. My wife
and I've been there handful of time.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But I've never been there. I've only had it here,
which is fine, but it's it's better there.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Shout them out. It's Soda Restaurant right there on Alameda
and Burbank Sott a really.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Cool place, great food and healthy. Like it's just it's
hard to get both of those things, and they nail it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
This is the Weekend Fix. This is our podcast that
we throw together just to you know.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We certainly did, certainly threw it together just to try
to get you know, if you start having the shakes
early Saturday morning because you realize it around nine o'clock,
We're not going to talk to you, yeah, because I.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Mean I'm already think so I'm already feeling withdrawals from
seeing your feet today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It was a lot to take in and then get
nothing Like the next day you get nothing whole.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
By the way, about whether or not people wanted to
start an only fans page.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Just pretty even.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, pretty easy.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Terrifying.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's a little terrifying.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, it'd be worse if it was one hundred percent. Yes,
it was. It was like fifty forty eight.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And what if what if it was just I had
some gnarly ass talent feet with well and the yellowed.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Old that's what I think could get you the money?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You think so?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But anyway, we'll work on.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
So we have this.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Great show lunch, right, we have this great show producer
Keen and technical X. What title do you want, Elmer?
I don't think we've ever really technical director. Is that
what you prefer?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
No, just I think sound guy.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Sound master, gas sound master.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sound developer, sound sculptor.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Sound creator.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Elmer. Yes, he's sitting at our he's sitting obviously, we're
sitting at the same table.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Elmer has great creative ideas. He's the newest member of
our team. We are so stoked to have him on board.
He's full of creativity and like wonderful energy. It's a
delight to come to work and have Elmer's energy. It
really is, like it is. It is a game changer
when you have a team full of good energy. If
there's just one thing that's kind of a miss and
(02:30):
someone's bringing like some some weird energy kind of throws
things off. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a child
and I'm susceptible to that, but it is like manipulated,
that's easily.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But manipulated it's not the right word. Easily influenced.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I can get sucked into someone's bad energy.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, and I apologize that oftentimes I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The It's okay, you're working through it. Your filter is
getting stronger. I'm just kidding. But anyway, thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
That was amazing and foremost I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Like that, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, I appreciate you too.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Because want me to leave.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So we're sitting, we're talking around the show and it's
like an hour whatever where you've eaten and like I
had like a Arnold Palmer delicious, but like I got
a pee at this point, you know what I mean.
And Gary had gone to use the restroom. So I
know there's a restroom there, and I'm like, I went first, right,
And so we're kind of wrapping up but not totally.
But it's again the first time the four of us
(03:29):
are together, so like, there's tons to talk about. We
could have been there for hours, but anyway, I gotta
go pee. So I and I had been holding it
for a while. This is so I should not have
brought this up, but anyway, so I had to peete.
So I go to the bathroom and.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Uh, sorry folks moved out.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Sorry sorry folks, but both bathrooms are out of order,
and I'm like, huh. So then I'm like I started
go back to the table. I'm sitting there. I'm like,
you gotta wrap this up because I got a pee,
and I'm thinking about my drive home, which is usually
about thirty five minutes, but after an hour, I'm doing
all this mouth in my head while people are still talking,
and I'm like, yeah, i'll probably be a forty five minutes,
(04:08):
but if that two tens backed up, man, I'm gonna
be fifteen minutes. Should I pee somewhere else? Should I
stop in a gas station?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Ad?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's kind of gross. This is all going on, and
then they're still talking about the show, and then all
of a sudden, I hear Elmer say, so do you
guys believe in aliens? And I'm like, oh shit, like
so much lower.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Your response was so great. You're like, I gotta pee.
I don't have time for this. And then that was
the end of all.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But like I totally wanted to talk about it. I
just I just was dealing with that timetable in my head.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That was a good That was probably the best reaction.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It was just honest.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It was very honest.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You know, I don't have time for this. I don't
have time for alien.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Believe alien.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's like a loaded conversation that's not like a we'll
address this in ninety seconds and be out of here.
That's why I had to just like drop the hammer.
You know, do you believe? I do? I do? Because
I feel like there's way too much out there, way
too much space. Yeah, way too much, too many chance avaliability,
(05:13):
too many chances.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
For something to live that's not like us. Yes, okay,
I don't. I have no idea. I mean, I I'm
I tend to lean that way, like if you try
to wrap your head around the size of the universe. No,
if you try to wrap your head around the size
of the Milky Way galaxy and then expand that to
(05:39):
there are hundreds of thousands of other galaxies in the universe,
it hurts, like you, We are not built this stupid
gray fleshy you know, meat, bag of bones and milk
or fluids some people have milk in them. Is not
designed to wrap our heads around that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
We only use you know, eight to ten percent of
our brain clearly, and I know enough to know that
I don't know one millionth of what's out there aside
from our dumbass milk bones or whatever concoction you made.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Of us bag of bones and milk.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Elmer, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So, basically, if you think about us as humans, like
this meat sac that we have limits us in like
what we can listen to and frequencies, and we can
see with color. So I think that there's this whole
plane of existence like in front of us that we
can't see, that our cast can see, that our dogs
can hear, like all these different creatures or insects can
(06:41):
see differently to what's really out there. And I think
aliens live in that in between and maybe this like
rock ship coming, it's just like another form of it,
one that's closer to the frequency that we're vibrating.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
On three I at lis that thing, whatever that is,
it's making its way towards our solar systems.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You don't necessarily you you believe maybe that they're on
the same plane as us, but at a different frequency,
like they're here but at a different frequency.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah. So when people see ghosts and stuff, it's just
like maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
When we die, someone's getting too close to the edge.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Exactly, you know, Or like psychic mediums maybe they have
like these senses that you know, like our cats have
when they're just staring at the wall and you know
they're saying something.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So it's just like different people have different abilities, or
you can meditate enough to kind of like slow your
thoughts enough to really pick up different things, and it's
just yeah, I think aliens, spirituality, all of that, it's
all just that mystery goo. I think that's where it
all is. And we're either going to be able to
experience it when that big rock thing comes, or.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Maybe they're already here or you're not mystery you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well so I'm I appreciate when I mean, I've said
multiple times I just read this book, the Project Hail Mary,
and there is alien life the book without giving away
too much. I appreciate when an author, a movie maker
something like that stretches the bounds of imagination in terms
(08:12):
of figuring out what an alien life form would look like.
When we did Star Trek back in the late sixties
and early seventies, that was not a big stretch like
the the what made up something an alien was blue skin.
But they still reproduced the same way. That's why. That's
why Captain Stubing, No, that was love boat, Captain Kirk
(08:35):
why he was getting laid all the time on these
foreign planets, because they still did sex the same way
we did it was I never watched it, which which
wouldn't make which that's.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Live, long and prosperous. Yes, that spock, which would he
didn't get laid?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
No, No, he had no, I mean I don't friend.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh okay, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It was later Captain Kirk was. But there's no creativity when.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
James will Shadow William James t he was getting in there. Huh, yeah,
that was part.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Of the whole thing, is like he was such a
handsome young human captain that all the alien ladies, I
assume they were ladies, see that. But again that that
wasn't a big stretch. The aliens back then were just
very Cuminoida.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Was more like Dylan, and William Shatner was more like Brandon.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's exactly what I was getting at.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Who's that? Who's Dylan?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Nineteen ninety four?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The original, by the way, not the rebook.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, the original.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But I appreciate when when a creator like that stretches
the bounds of what an alien is supposed to be.
We think of it like alien is a green human
with three eyes, when whatever the alien is that lives
outside of our solar system may look nothing like us
and may not function the way.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Do you think they even have a body? Elmer, That's
the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
If they're like if they're like not physical, and there
could be like gaseous or like sonic like creatures.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Or moss.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I mean, I mean, it could be something as simple
as which again is I'm going against my own thing
because I'm now trying to make it similar to something
that we have on Earth, where it wouldn't be anything
like what we have.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Because you're trying to wrap your head around it. But
I don't know if you can.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Well, that's what I'm saying is there's there's a skill
in that letting go of your imagination, like letting go
of the limitations of your imagination. Are we high? I
feel like we're high?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Right?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
What if the moss comes from space, but it's a
space moss that spreads throughout the whole.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Octopus. Okay, there's a lot of people who believe the
octopus is an alien creature because there's nothing brilliance, very
few like it on earth.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And octopus is smarter than you. An octopus is smarter
than the average person. It's true. Oh yeah, I have
a book. I'll give it to you. It's called My
Brilliant It's called stand By. No, no, it's not my
friend the octopus.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Brilliant creatures, Brilliant. What is it called?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's an incredible book, Elmer like, I'm going to get
it for you today. It's called Remarkably Bright Creatures.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Is it like a big one or a small one?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
A small book?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
By the way, an octopus, remember, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I love That's why I said it's smarter than you.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It remembers like it remembers interactions it has with humans,
it remembers objects. It is a brilliant creature.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But again, we can't we can't limit it to the
way we judge exact intelligence exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's a different barometer. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because we're human and we eat everything.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
But isn't there a law we can't eat smart creatures
or what should be?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, no, there's no law law.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
There is no people eat octopus all the time. You
go to nothing but octopus.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I mean you could eat dolphins.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Petrost and get breast milk.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You got OCTOPI I'm sure there are probably laws against
certain animals, but not necessarily because of their intelligence.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, there's laws against eating whales.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Oh, we can't eat peapa.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, but that's not because they're intelligent. It's because they're
raw running out. We eat pigs. Pigs are as smart
as dogs, and in some cases probably.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Smarlready eat pigs anymore. But we love our dogs in
the afternoon. I still do in the evening. Why do
you not more? Not in the morning because of the
cholesterol number.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I don't think you need to be worried about cholesterol.
I'm worried that you're working.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It was really high. It was like five hundred and
sixty as opposed to the high level of two fifty.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Okay, all right, well I.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Touched out the bacon and I got down to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Three is a good score.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The bacon was a good idea to cut. I don't
think eating bacon every morning at my age is probably smart.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, at your age, you're not an old person.
Aliens live to be like thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You just say that because you're older than me, which makes.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
It really I want to eat bacon every day, you can't. Don't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, but that's off bacon. It's chemicals and it's turkey bacon,
and ship will give you cancer. Alien it smells like.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Barbut yeah, okay, I hate turkey.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It shouldn't even be called you know what, There should
be a law against calling that bacon. It should just
be called turkey strips or some ship, right, like turkey
crap you put in a pan because you're, you know,
worried about your cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
All right, murder, Yeah, let's discuss. Let's discuss the Close
Encounters of the Third kind. Question, do you know the movie?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It all?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Never mind if you've never watched it and you are
thinking of aliens, You've got to watch also watch It's
really it's a I remember being a scary, scary movie
when I was a kid. It's a really well done movie.
You got to check it out. Here's the question, we'll
spacecraft comes down. Let's say three I Atlas hovers around
(14:05):
uh the Earth and puts out an invitation. I will go.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I will go.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Will you go? We're going.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's a no return, no return down.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I've done, I've done what I want to do here,
like I'm ready to explore.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Okay, if you can.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's a different world.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You don't break you down. Yeah a body.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
We may not have a ball. We may just be
a sound.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
They may just yeah, they may just download whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Is like our essence.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So our bodies will just drop. So that's just that's
the rupture, like empty.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Maybe that's what it is, Holy ship. Maybe that's what
it is.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Guys, dum Jesus is an alien?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh my god, No, let's way out that.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But yeah, I will go with the aliens. I will yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Af that Diane, I feel like she would go, you
only get you get one e. No, there's no plus one.
The aliens are not extending a plus one. That's the
whole choice is like you have to give up everything
that you have here now plus Well, maybe they do
have weddings on the spacecraft.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well here's the thing. It's not like you're living your
life here there. It's a different thing.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, But again, let's not attach.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Our outstanding of what life is to.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
What because you make it sound like I'm going to
go to Estonia. What if they get you into their
spacecraft and then dissect seven billion cells into individual spaces,
You're immediately dead.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's a different experience. It's a new chapter.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I'm gonna go. But like, they have to have a pitch.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
They look at your feet too.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You have to have a pitch.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, Like, we'll give you this. It can't just be
a mystery.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But you're still thinking like a human. Yeah, you've got
to get out like that. You've got to open your eyes.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You're thinking like an alien.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Right, you're right, I'm sorry. I'm gonna do better.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
If you're happy here, stay here, Like I'm happy here too,
but I'm just willing to see what's out there and
change my life form.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay, they take different cell boxes in like ten years,
I feel like I'd be one hundred percent right now,
I'm seventy.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You've got things you want to do, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You'd listen to the pitch now. But but it's not
a guarant You.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Know, you've never been arrested at Disneyland. You haven't seen
Gary Pole dance at a gay bar in Philadelphia. I've
done these things.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That is a full life.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You haven't seen the forty nine ers lose a Super
Bowl three times?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I have?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You just described it very fore.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You come back for us, Dan, and we would come
back ten years they.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Put you back to mean, I don't know. I don't know.
It's like it's a personal decision that you guys have
to make. I can't make it for you.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
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