November 21, 2025 • 18 mins
Marla Tellez joins Gary for this weekend fix to talk career paths, home life, and everything else in between.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome everybody to the Gas Weekend Fix. These are the
episodes of the podcast that we cannot air during the
regular week for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Sometimes it's legal, something like the.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
AI topics that we talked about, where they can talk dirty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
They can talk dirty if necessary.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Marla Teez from Fox eleven filled in actually a couple
of days ago on the show, and we wanted to.
I always liked talking with you off the air as well.
Last time I think we did this a few months ago,
we talked about sort of our shared at least geographic history.
Both came up from the Bay Area from northern California,
(00:47):
and I'm always fascinated by the decisions that lead people
to kind of their career path, and we talked a
little bit about that as well. It's sort of your
your your history and TV where you got started and
all that sort of.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Stuff, which was for those who don't know behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I never intended to be in front of the camera
or even this behind the mic.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Ever, I was always a producer.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That is part of what fascinates me about this kind
of a job is there are people who don't intend
to or I should say, any kind of a career,
but those careers that find you as opposed to you
going out and finding the thing that makes you think
is going to make you.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Happy, which I think is more of a rarity, right,
because most people are like you where you were born
to be in front of a microphone, in front of
a camera.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
You really were. I don't well, because you have the
gift for gab. It's just natural for you and you're really, really,
really right.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh yeah, it was great for it to go a
different way. Why are you laughing? That's not that funny.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
And he's funny and he's funny. So yes, you should
be in front of a microphone. You should be in
front of a camera.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
As for me, I was really really shy.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
And absolutely did not want to have this sort of attention.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was much more comfortable being a producer. Yeah, and
a writer. Tiffany Hobbs you hear a Saturday Sinarn K five.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
And she was filled in also filled in as.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, and we talked about her getting into the world
a special education, where again not something that she planned
to do with her life. And I was having this
conversation with some friends recently. Their daughter is about to
go into college. This is her senior year in high
school and she's about to go to college. And there's
a lot of consternation about how much how much do
(02:36):
we expect a seventeen year old to know what they're
going to do in ten years or twenty years, let
alone next fall. I mean, you can come up with
plans and ideas, but we're not. Our brains are not
ready to make a decision like that when we're seventy.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No, And I think what our brains aren't fully formed
until twenty five?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, I would say, men, I think women have a
much I shouldn't say easier, much.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Quicker forming period.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I haven't lately. Yeah, but I'm getting old, and men
of Paus got it.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But the idea that we would have that much wherewithal
I am a weirdo in that I knew what I
wanted to do going into college, and I got a
job doing it out of college, and I continue.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
To do it thirty years later. Those are all very
weird things.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My wife, for example, got a psych degree from UCLA
and does not.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Do I shouldn't. I mean, she's married to me. She's
just got to use it on a daily basis.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
But she didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Get into the world of psychology. She got into a nonprofit.
She was in a high tech business for several years
when we were first married. She got into nursing more recently,
which I guess you could say is kind of an
offshoot of the psych degree. But there are very few
people who follow that, or who develop a path early
on and then follow it.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
And I've always been envious of that.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
And now that I'm a mom, I think about that
with Sloan, who was eight months and I'm thinking, what
is she going to be when she grows up?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Right, she's only eight.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Months, but I want to see I'm hoping that she gravit,
gravitates towards something where she's fascinated by the stars, and yeah,
she's going to be an astronaut, or yes, she's going
to be an astronomer or.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Whatever that is. I didn't have that when I was
growing up. I was.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I was interested in things, and but I didn't know
what I wanted to be when I grew up, and
I was just I went the path of oh, I'm
going to be a lawyer, because that's one of the
big things you can be when you grow up. Sure,
and I think I mentioned the last time we did
this that I can be argumentative and like to be right,
so that seemed like a good path for me.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
But then once I got into that, this is not.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
At all for me at all, and I'm more in
the creative space, which I appreciate now. But I often
think that now as I get older and this business,
what would I.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Do if I didn't do this? And that scares me too.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Now, Listen, this is all I've done. We live in
a business.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We work in a business, but we live in this
business where any of that could change in a moment's notice.
We've seen our friends get fired and laid off in
different places. We've seen them quit and storm out in
other circumstances.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I always say that the only reason that I'm
still here and still surviving in this business is because
I say yes a lot, and I've made a lot
of sacrifices. And I think there's been a lot more
talented people who are born to do this that have
not had the work ethic that I've had, and as
a result, of that, a contract hasn't been fulfilled, or
(05:44):
they've quit, or they've done something else because of that.
Because this is a really demanding industry and it takes
up a lot of your time and it's very competitive.
But I've always been the yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
I'll do that. I'll work that weekend, I'll work that night,
I'll work that more. I mean I'm working. I worked
when I filled in and did this and then still
had to go to my real job. Not that this
(06:06):
isn't a real job, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I should have bought pizza.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
You should have come on starving over here.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Next time, I'll do that. You did say something that
reminded me. I want to ask you a question later
about conflict. So before we go, okay, okay, but I'm curious,
were you encouraged or expected when it came to post
high school education.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And is there no difference between the two For.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Me personally, I don't think there was an expectation.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I mean, I was raised by the the all was
I put the expectation on myself, I'll say that, but
from an outside source. I was raised by a single
mom who absolutely championed you know me, But she was
working so much. It wasn't as if she put any
sort of expectation on me to do really well in school.
(06:56):
It was just do what you're supposed to do sort
of a thing. And I was just wired in the
way that I am where I was. I want to study,
I want to learn, I want to do the best
that I can. I'm very competitive. So I just got that.
That's just in my DNA. And so for me, it's like, oh, okay,
one of my best my best friend growing up, uh,
(07:18):
super super smart, came from a family that really encouraged
higher education. So by way of her, that was, okay,
well I'm going to go to college.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And I did, and then.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I actually she may have been the one that encouraged.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Absolutely, yeah, so by way of her, yes, So but
I was a homebody though, And so I didn't go
away to a big fancy school.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I know, you went to Chico. I went to Snowma
State and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Even do that. Brother Sister College is there, but I didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I didn't even leave home. I mean, that's so much
of a homebody I was. I didn't have the dorm experience.
In hindsight, I think I do things later in life,
hence be coming a mom at forty eight years old.
Not sure if I recommend that, but better late than ever.
In any case, In hindsight, I wish I would have
(08:09):
done the full college experience, but I do not like
to live and regret at all. And it's like, this
is the path that I chose, and I've done pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You know those friends that I mentioned, this is their
third kids, so they've got two other She has two
other siblings. One of them tried college, didn't necessarily take
to it, another one is still in college. And the
parents were saying, basically, because we're having this discussion about
expectation versus encouraging both my parents encouraged us and expected
(08:38):
us to go to college, and I had two older
sisters that kind of blaze that path, and I knew
that that was kind of the expectation. But they're talking
about taking some of that pressure away from their daughter
and just saying something along the lines of, this is
the school you're going to go to, this is the
major you're going to sign up for, get into it,
(09:00):
Just to pull back so that there's less pressure on
that kid to do so they want to go to college, anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
She knows she wants.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
To go, but there's a lot of like, well where
do I go? Do I want to go out of state?
Do I want to go East Coast? Do I want
to stay in California? Do I want to stay on
the Western United States? So I'm close, but I.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Don't want to be in California.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean all of those things, and based on that,
they can as a family make a decision and say
you're going here. You're making this because listen, everybody knows
there are entire departments at every campus whose job it
is to help you change your major if you ever
want to.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Do that, And that's perfectly acceptable.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But I mean your point of there's a value in
the college experience outside of the knowledge that you get
from the classroom, the social growth that's expected of you,
the social situations that you are in, whether it's dorm
living parties, new relationships, people that are different from you,
(10:01):
all of these things are are sort of thrust upon you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You are in this mix, and you've got to figure
out how to deal with Now.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
With all that said, though, everything that I have done
professionally I learned on the job, I mean my college experience,
I studied political science and I got a minor in communications.
But I mean, everything that I do to this day,
by and large, other than you know, right, is this
microphone stuff and being on cameras everything I've just learned
(10:32):
on the job. And I also like this idea of
more vocational schools. I mean, I used to work with
Mike Row. I was one of his producers way back
in the day, and we know him now just thirty
jobs right right right, and he is all about the
trades there, and I know you talk a lot about
that as well. Hey, if Sloan wants to be a carpenter,
(10:54):
please you know, whatever it is that you want to do,
as long as you have a passion for it and
you do what you know makes you feel good because
I love what I do. Otherwise it wouldn't work so
hard for it, right, you know. I mean, I think
there's something to be said about that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
There is a factor I think that you have to
deal with, or you will have to deal with in
fifteen eighteen years that I haven't had to just because
of the paths that my kids have taken. Is how
much of whatever our options are available to an eighteen
year old today will be available to Sloan eighteen years
from now because of AI.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Oh my gosh, you know, I mean already it's she
will probably never have a driver's license.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Interesting, Okay, that's yeah. I didn't think about that, but sure.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I mean we're talking about flying car.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
We have a story about the Watsonville company that's putting
the flying cars out there. You know, I mean, she's
going to be she'll never probably have to drive, which
is incredibly weird.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
She already gravitates toward.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The phones, you know, and computers at home. Her job
is probably not even created right now. I don't know,
it's just like huh whoo, yeah, you know, what is
she going to be?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And even if you're even if you're eighteen now, like
we were talking about and having a college degree in mind,
or at least a concentration of study, what's left four
or five.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Years from now.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Because we've seen AI change so much over the course
of Jeep in the last year two years, what is
around the corner for us? You know, as a as
a human being, what is it going to mean to
live a successful life If you don't have to have
a car, if you don't have to you know, go
to the airport all the time to travel somewhere.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Somebody picks you up. It's a robot that picks you
up or so.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
On one hand, while we're not supposed to.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Pediatricians and people like that say, you know, don't have
your child in front of screens. On the other hand,
I think, well, she is going to live in a
world where technology reigns supreme. Here have my phone, teach
me how to use it because I'm I'm so bad
at it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I lost my text messages. Where do they go? Okay,
this is a question.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The answer if you want, I saw this the other day, please,
and I'll try to keep it vague because I don't
want to incriminate anybody. I was watching your newscast. Oh okay,
I will tell you which one great You the person
that was standing next to you introduced the story and
said a person's name one way. You immediately were going
(13:31):
to continue the intro to the story like it was
a two part intro. Yes, and you set you correct
it without saying, Hey, you said the name wrong. You
said the name correctly. I know that package go on,
et cetera. Uh huh, that does that happen? Is that
a thing is it was it did you go, oh,
I shouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Done that, or Okay, oh gosh, that's so funny. I
know exactly what you're referring to. I know who you're
referring to, and I know the name.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
That was something that I wasn't sure on how to
handle because I was thinking I had watched the press
conference that day, and clearly my colleague had not where
this was made a big deal about pronunciation. His background
was a big deal, and so I I typically don't
(14:23):
like to correct, but when it was something like that,
I felt and I'm glad that you pointed out that
I didn't say, oh, you didn't pronounce it right on
live TV, but I just made the point. My colleague
after the fact was like goes, oh my gosh, I'm
so I can't believe I didn't know that this and that,
and I said, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I wasn't trying to, you know, make you look bad.
I just was.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I was. That was a tough conflict for me and
I you know, you're live on the air, so you
make a.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Decision, you make a decision.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I hope I didn't come across as an a hole
making my colleague look bad. My whole point was just
because it was so central to the story. That's how
I read it. So that's why I made the decision
to quote correct my colleague and.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
On a think.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
And but what I will say is this, I have
been on the other end of that where I have
made an asinine move and said something stupid, where it
was wrong, and I do want to be corrected, you know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I mean, I don't mind that because it should.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean, well, it helps your credibility. I mean, for
one thing, if if somebody has to correct you on
the air, at least it helped and you can say,
oh my gosh, I can't believe I got that wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Right, my apologies, right right, right? That lends you your credit.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
If it's a minor if it's a minor issue, that's
not it's not central to the story.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I don't correct.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
But even then, I've I've a colleague of minus said well,
actually that was wrong what you said. Well, then I'm like,
oh my gosh, well then let's correct it, you know,
And I don't mind. I'm the kind on the air
that said, please let me correct myself. I didn't mean
it like that or that's I mispronounced or whatever it is.
So that's so funny you bring that up. Did I
come across as a total ahole?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No, No, not at all. And that's why I was going
to commend you for that because you said it. But
I can imagine because like you said, you're there's a
certain formality that exists in a TV newscast that does
not exist in our four hour radio show. Right, so
if you said something wrong, we could make a joke
of it. Right, it's a little bit looser, it's a
(16:28):
little bit less formal, and they're that kind of This
amount of time also lends itself to us expanding on that,
Oh did you say that wrong? This is why I've
always heard it right. But I could see in the
moment you I mean, knowing your personality, like in the
flash of a second, you're like, should I say it
(16:51):
correctly or should I just go with what and then
we could correct it later, or you know, while the
package is running, you go, hey, just so you know,
we said this wrong, should we correct it on the
back end of this? And you know, but in the moment,
there was I could see all of that going through
your face, and it was and I don't want to say.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It was like it was joyce that you picked up
on that.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
It just felt like I knew a secret that was
going on in your head and no one else did.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It's true you did.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And it's funny because I've heard you have this similar conversation,
but because you're talking about how loose radio.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Can be with.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Michael Monks, you had it the other day, you asked
you because also, but then after the fact, then there
was the debate that went on because even though they
made that essential part of the announcement of this person's name, uh,
then it was seemingly interchangeable where he goes by both.
But then Michael the other day put it to rest
that he pronounced it one way. Okay, So anyway the debate, Well, listen,
(17:48):
have a great.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Please on the radio with you correct me as much
as you want.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
All the time, all the time, all the time. Have
a great holiday, and you come back in someday.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome everybody to the Gas Weekend Fix. These are the
episodes of the podcast that we cannot air during the
regular week for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Sometimes it's legal, something like the.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
AI topics that we talked about, where they can talk dirty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
They can talk dirty if necessary.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Marla Teez from Fox eleven filled in actually a couple
of days ago on the show, and we wanted to.
I always liked talking with you off the air as well.
Last time I think we did this a few months ago,
we talked about sort of our shared at least geographic history.
Both came up from the Bay Area from northern California,
(00:47):
and I'm always fascinated by the decisions that lead people
to kind of their career path, and we talked a
little bit about that as well. It's sort of your
your your history and TV where you got started and
all that sort of.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Stuff, which was for those who don't know behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I never intended to be in front of the camera
or even this behind the mic.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Ever, I was always a producer.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That is part of what fascinates me about this kind
of a job is there are people who don't intend
to or I should say, any kind of a career,
but those careers that find you as opposed to you
going out and finding the thing that makes you think
is going to make you.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Happy, which I think is more of a rarity, right,
because most people are like you where you were born
to be in front of a microphone, in front of
a camera.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
You really were. I don't well, because you have the
gift for gab. It's just natural for you and you're really, really,
really right.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh yeah, it was great for it to go a
different way. Why are you laughing? That's not that funny.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
And he's funny and he's funny. So yes, you should
be in front of a microphone. You should be in
front of a camera.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
As for me, I was really really shy.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
And absolutely did not want to have this sort of attention.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was much more comfortable being a producer. Yeah, and
a writer. Tiffany Hobbs you hear a Saturday Sinarn K five.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
And she was filled in also filled in as.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, and we talked about her getting into the world
a special education, where again not something that she planned
to do with her life. And I was having this
conversation with some friends recently. Their daughter is about to
go into college. This is her senior year in high
school and she's about to go to college. And there's
a lot of consternation about how much how much do
(02:36):
we expect a seventeen year old to know what they're
going to do in ten years or twenty years, let
alone next fall. I mean, you can come up with
plans and ideas, but we're not. Our brains are not
ready to make a decision like that when we're seventy.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No, And I think what our brains aren't fully formed
until twenty five?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, I would say, men, I think women have a
much I shouldn't say easier, much.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Quicker forming period.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I haven't lately. Yeah, but I'm getting old, and men
of Paus got it.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
But the idea that we would have that much wherewithal
I am a weirdo in that I knew what I
wanted to do going into college, and I got a
job doing it out of college, and I continue.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
To do it thirty years later. Those are all very
weird things.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My wife, for example, got a psych degree from UCLA
and does not.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Do I shouldn't. I mean, she's married to me. She's
just got to use it on a daily basis.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
But she didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Get into the world of psychology. She got into a nonprofit.
She was in a high tech business for several years
when we were first married. She got into nursing more recently,
which I guess you could say is kind of an
offshoot of the psych degree. But there are very few
people who follow that, or who develop a path early
on and then follow it.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
And I've always been envious of that.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
And now that I'm a mom, I think about that
with Sloan, who was eight months and I'm thinking, what
is she going to be when she grows up?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Right, she's only eight.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Months, but I want to see I'm hoping that she gravit,
gravitates towards something where she's fascinated by the stars, and yeah,
she's going to be an astronaut, or yes, she's going
to be an astronomer or.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Whatever that is. I didn't have that when I was
growing up. I was.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I was interested in things, and but I didn't know
what I wanted to be when I grew up, and
I was just I went the path of oh, I'm
going to be a lawyer, because that's one of the
big things you can be when you grow up. Sure,
and I think I mentioned the last time we did
this that I can be argumentative and like to be right,
so that seemed like a good path for me.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
But then once I got into that, this is not.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
At all for me at all, and I'm more in
the creative space, which I appreciate now. But I often
think that now as I get older and this business,
what would I.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Do if I didn't do this? And that scares me too.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Now, Listen, this is all I've done. We live in
a business.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We work in a business, but we live in this
business where any of that could change in a moment's notice.
We've seen our friends get fired and laid off in
different places. We've seen them quit and storm out in
other circumstances.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I always say that the only reason that I'm
still here and still surviving in this business is because
I say yes a lot, and I've made a lot
of sacrifices. And I think there's been a lot more
talented people who are born to do this that have
not had the work ethic that I've had, and as
a result, of that, a contract hasn't been fulfilled, or
(05:44):
they've quit, or they've done something else because of that.
Because this is a really demanding industry and it takes
up a lot of your time and it's very competitive.
But I've always been the yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
I'll do that. I'll work that weekend, I'll work that night,
I'll work that more. I mean I'm working. I worked
when I filled in and did this and then still
had to go to my real job. Not that this
(06:06):
isn't a real job, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I should have bought pizza.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
You should have come on starving over here.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Next time, I'll do that. You did say something that
reminded me. I want to ask you a question later
about conflict. So before we go, okay, okay, but I'm curious,
were you encouraged or expected when it came to post
high school education.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And is there no difference between the two For.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Me personally, I don't think there was an expectation.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I mean, I was raised by the the all was
I put the expectation on myself, I'll say that, but
from an outside source. I was raised by a single
mom who absolutely championed you know me, But she was
working so much. It wasn't as if she put any
sort of expectation on me to do really well in school.
(06:56):
It was just do what you're supposed to do sort
of a thing. And I was just wired in the
way that I am where I was. I want to study,
I want to learn, I want to do the best
that I can. I'm very competitive. So I just got that.
That's just in my DNA. And so for me, it's like, oh, okay,
one of my best my best friend growing up, uh,
(07:18):
super super smart, came from a family that really encouraged
higher education. So by way of her, that was, okay,
well I'm going to go to college.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And I did, and then.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I actually she may have been the one that encouraged.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Absolutely, yeah, so by way of her, yes, So but
I was a homebody though, And so I didn't go
away to a big fancy school.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I know, you went to Chico. I went to Snowma
State and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Even do that. Brother Sister College is there, but I didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I didn't even leave home. I mean, that's so much
of a homebody I was. I didn't have the dorm experience.
In hindsight, I think I do things later in life,
hence be coming a mom at forty eight years old.
Not sure if I recommend that, but better late than ever.
In any case, In hindsight, I wish I would have
(08:09):
done the full college experience, but I do not like
to live and regret at all. And it's like, this
is the path that I chose, and I've done pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You know those friends that I mentioned, this is their
third kids, so they've got two other She has two
other siblings. One of them tried college, didn't necessarily take
to it, another one is still in college. And the
parents were saying, basically, because we're having this discussion about
expectation versus encouraging both my parents encouraged us and expected
(08:38):
us to go to college, and I had two older
sisters that kind of blaze that path, and I knew
that that was kind of the expectation. But they're talking
about taking some of that pressure away from their daughter
and just saying something along the lines of, this is
the school you're going to go to, this is the
major you're going to sign up for, get into it,
(09:00):
Just to pull back so that there's less pressure on
that kid to do so they want to go to college, anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
She knows she wants.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
To go, but there's a lot of like, well where
do I go? Do I want to go out of state?
Do I want to go East Coast? Do I want
to stay in California? Do I want to stay on
the Western United States? So I'm close, but I.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Don't want to be in California.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean all of those things, and based on that,
they can as a family make a decision and say
you're going here. You're making this because listen, everybody knows
there are entire departments at every campus whose job it
is to help you change your major if you ever
want to.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Do that, And that's perfectly acceptable.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But I mean your point of there's a value in
the college experience outside of the knowledge that you get
from the classroom, the social growth that's expected of you,
the social situations that you are in, whether it's dorm
living parties, new relationships, people that are different from you,
(10:01):
all of these things are are sort of thrust upon you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You are in this mix, and you've got to figure
out how to deal with Now.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
With all that said, though, everything that I have done
professionally I learned on the job, I mean my college experience,
I studied political science and I got a minor in communications.
But I mean, everything that I do to this day,
by and large, other than you know, right, is this
microphone stuff and being on cameras everything I've just learned
(10:32):
on the job. And I also like this idea of
more vocational schools. I mean, I used to work with
Mike Row. I was one of his producers way back
in the day, and we know him now just thirty
jobs right right right, and he is all about the
trades there, and I know you talk a lot about
that as well. Hey, if Sloan wants to be a carpenter,
(10:54):
please you know, whatever it is that you want to do,
as long as you have a passion for it and
you do what you know makes you feel good because
I love what I do. Otherwise it wouldn't work so
hard for it, right, you know. I mean, I think
there's something to be said about that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
There is a factor I think that you have to
deal with, or you will have to deal with in
fifteen eighteen years that I haven't had to just because
of the paths that my kids have taken. Is how
much of whatever our options are available to an eighteen
year old today will be available to Sloan eighteen years
from now because of AI.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Oh my gosh, you know, I mean already it's she
will probably never have a driver's license.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Interesting, Okay, that's yeah. I didn't think about that, but sure.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I mean we're talking about flying car.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
We have a story about the Watsonville company that's putting
the flying cars out there. You know, I mean, she's
going to be she'll never probably have to drive, which
is incredibly weird.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
She already gravitates toward.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The phones, you know, and computers at home. Her job
is probably not even created right now. I don't know,
it's just like huh whoo, yeah, you know, what is
she going to be?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And even if you're even if you're eighteen now, like
we were talking about and having a college degree in mind,
or at least a concentration of study, what's left four
or five.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Years from now.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Because we've seen AI change so much over the course
of Jeep in the last year two years, what is
around the corner for us? You know, as a as
a human being, what is it going to mean to
live a successful life If you don't have to have
a car, if you don't have to you know, go
to the airport all the time to travel somewhere.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Somebody picks you up. It's a robot that picks you
up or so.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
On one hand, while we're not supposed to.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Pediatricians and people like that say, you know, don't have
your child in front of screens. On the other hand,
I think, well, she is going to live in a
world where technology reigns supreme. Here have my phone, teach
me how to use it because I'm I'm so bad
at it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I lost my text messages. Where do they go? Okay,
this is a question.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The answer if you want, I saw this the other day, please,
and I'll try to keep it vague because I don't
want to incriminate anybody. I was watching your newscast. Oh okay,
I will tell you which one great You the person
that was standing next to you introduced the story and
said a person's name one way. You immediately were going
(13:31):
to continue the intro to the story like it was
a two part intro. Yes, and you set you correct
it without saying, Hey, you said the name wrong. You
said the name correctly. I know that package go on,
et cetera. Uh huh, that does that happen? Is that
a thing is it was it did you go, oh,
I shouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Done that, or Okay, oh gosh, that's so funny. I
know exactly what you're referring to. I know who you're
referring to, and I know the name.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
That was something that I wasn't sure on how to
handle because I was thinking I had watched the press
conference that day, and clearly my colleague had not where
this was made a big deal about pronunciation. His background
was a big deal, and so I I typically don't
(14:23):
like to correct, but when it was something like that,
I felt and I'm glad that you pointed out that
I didn't say, oh, you didn't pronounce it right on
live TV, but I just made the point. My colleague
after the fact was like goes, oh my gosh, I'm
so I can't believe I didn't know that this and that,
and I said, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I wasn't trying to, you know, make you look bad.
I just was.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I was. That was a tough conflict for me and
I you know, you're live on the air, so you
make a.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Decision, you make a decision.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I hope I didn't come across as an a hole
making my colleague look bad. My whole point was just
because it was so central to the story. That's how
I read it. So that's why I made the decision
to quote correct my colleague and.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
On a think.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
And but what I will say is this, I have
been on the other end of that where I have
made an asinine move and said something stupid, where it
was wrong, and I do want to be corrected, you know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I mean, I don't mind that because it should.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean, well, it helps your credibility. I mean, for
one thing, if if somebody has to correct you on
the air, at least it helped and you can say,
oh my gosh, I can't believe I got that wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Right, my apologies, right right, right? That lends you your credit.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
If it's a minor if it's a minor issue, that's
not it's not central to the story.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I don't correct.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
But even then, I've I've a colleague of minus said well,
actually that was wrong what you said. Well, then I'm like,
oh my gosh, well then let's correct it, you know,
And I don't mind. I'm the kind on the air
that said, please let me correct myself. I didn't mean
it like that or that's I mispronounced or whatever it is.
So that's so funny you bring that up. Did I
come across as a total ahole?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
No, No, not at all. And that's why I was going
to commend you for that because you said it. But
I can imagine because like you said, you're there's a
certain formality that exists in a TV newscast that does
not exist in our four hour radio show. Right, so
if you said something wrong, we could make a joke
of it. Right, it's a little bit looser, it's a
(16:28):
little bit less formal, and they're that kind of This
amount of time also lends itself to us expanding on that,
Oh did you say that wrong? This is why I've
always heard it right. But I could see in the
moment you I mean, knowing your personality, like in the
flash of a second, you're like, should I say it
(16:51):
correctly or should I just go with what and then
we could correct it later, or you know, while the
package is running, you go, hey, just so you know,
we said this wrong, should we correct it on the
back end of this? And you know, but in the moment,
there was I could see all of that going through
your face, and it was and I don't want to say.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It was like it was joyce that you picked up
on that.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
It just felt like I knew a secret that was
going on in your head and no one else did.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It's true you did.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And it's funny because I've heard you have this similar conversation,
but because you're talking about how loose radio.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Can be with.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Michael Monks, you had it the other day, you asked
you because also, but then after the fact, then there
was the debate that went on because even though they
made that essential part of the announcement of this person's name, uh,
then it was seemingly interchangeable where he goes by both.
But then Michael the other day put it to rest
that he pronounced it one way. Okay, So anyway the debate, Well, listen,
(17:48):
have a great.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Please on the radio with you correct me as much
as you want.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
All the time, all the time, all the time. Have
a great holiday, and you come back in someday.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
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Speaker 3 (18:03):
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