July 12, 2025 • 16 mins
While Gary is vacationing in Hawaii, Shannon is joined by KFI's very own Michael Monks! Get to know Monks like never before. In this funny, unfiltered episode, Michael opens up about his childhood, his stepdad's discipline, married life in his downtown L.A. loft, and his love of mugs, couches, and cursing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I don't even know how to
introduce this, you know, I usually just come in here
and this is the podcast that we do on the weekend.
It's called Keana. What is it called the Gas Weekend Fix?
(00:23):
Is what it's called gas?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Gary and Shannon, Yeah right, thanks for picking up. Thanks
for listen.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm good with acronyms.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
My mother listens to this sometimes she tries to just
get the normal show and she stumbles into the irreverent show,
which is fine because you can swear.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Michael Monks, what do you want me to say?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Say all of the things be George Carlin, Let's see
what do you have?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Poop?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay? What is another term for poop?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Crap?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't want to force it out of you. That
seems a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, I like to swear, you do? I do?
I like to swear. I like swearing in all occasions.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I I respect that there are some areas where one
should bite one's tongue, right like the airwaves.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But this is a podcast it's a podcast, so anything,
so the.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Rules don't apply the same, right, What about from management
are they?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
See, I am a rule a bear.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Like I understand between you and me that other bosses
have been brought into this place.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, but ever since they got rid of the bosses
that hired me, I feel like it's the wild West. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I know all of these people can fire me in
a moment's notice and will and will. But there was
a different thing with like the mom and dad of
the bosses that were here before, because they both hired
me twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, and they were here a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And so I kind of had to you know, I
knew them when I was twenty five, and you know,
I grew up with them.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's like your parents.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, and now.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't know these people.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know, you gotta you know, I find that if
you get coffee, you run into them there, right, And Yeah,
they're lovely, they're lovely.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They're very good people. Absolutely, they're gonna do great things here.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But I still feel like I can say fuck whenever
I want.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, because you're not my real dad.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You're not my real dad exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And then then yeah, I'll tell you when they become
your real dad, and I can share this from person.
When stepdad slaps you across the face once, you're like,
oh I am your loyal boy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh no, this happened to you, it did?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, that's not abusive. I was out of line.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
What did you do to get slapped?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I gave the nastiest look that you could ever imagine
giving a grown man who is keeping me housed fed
in school?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
How old were you? Thirteen?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Perfect? That's the age when you start knock.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Me out of my chair and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I didn't like immediately adjust my behavior completely, but by
the time high school rolled around, I was a very
good boy.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Do you remember? I was a very good boy. That
sounds so dirty.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
My stepfather who raised me and as absolutely my father
was a soldier, a cop. You know it just you
have that type of discipline brought into two children's lives
that lived in the wild West, as you're calling it,
for a long time with a young single mom. Yeah,
it was quite an adjustment.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Did you get front hand or backhand?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I got a right, open hand across the left cheek.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Do you remember the context?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah? For whatever I was a smart kid. I did
not use my intelligence wisely. Instead, I used it for evil,
and I didn't steal or hurt anybody. I was never
that kind of bad kid. But I loved a mouth off.
I had a mouth you couldn't stop. Yeah, and then
they got sick of it, and I was doing it
at the dinner table in our smaller part went we
(03:42):
just moved to a new city to start our lives
together as a family, and he had enough.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Do you think you were doing that for attention?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I'm sure that if we dive into an area where
I don't want to, like weep while we talk about it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Smart, I'm smart in a sassy way.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I think as many kids do when they're into a
new family situation. They want to know why the old
family didn't work right, and so like this isn't how
it's supposed to be, and so there's a level of resentment.
I always you know, I was born to an eighteen
year old mom, right, Wow, So we didn't have a
lot of things early on.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We're great now.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
My family worked hard and moved up in the economic classes,
and in fact, we own this building that we're talking
again right now, We've done well, but you know, at first,
it just it was not comfortable. There weren't a lot
of there weren't a lot of great comforts. And when
you're left to your own devices, you start to feel
(04:40):
like you can.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Get away with anything. Are you the oldest, I'm the oldest.
Brothers a couple of years younger.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So you and your mom are super close.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, you know, And I think about our age difference,
and I will be in my six.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Our husbands are different, more differents.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mentioned to you once that if you and I,
if we went on a double date, you and your
husband and me my spouse.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We look like we were.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
We would look like well we would look like it
would look like you and I were on a date
with our son and grandfather.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Our dad.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right, Yeah, everyone would think, Michael Shannon, what an adorable son.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You haven't whose father is this? Yeah? We are both
in age gap marriage, Yes we are. And I never
planned for that. It was not my style at all.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
See, my husband's half Asian, and so he look at us.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Look at us, look at our colonialist assets.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I wasn't trying to pretend that I'm holier than that.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, No, we are the colonizers.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
But I'm just saying he looks a lot young. When
I first met my husband, I thought he was a
lot younger. I thought he was a good ten years
younger than he was because of all this racist because
he's half Asian. I'm mean, his father, his whole family
has aged really well.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's one thing that the world has given us white
people is one everything except the ability to age as
gracefully as the will.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Say the other races.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You do have nice skin? Do you put.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Creams moisturized and stay out of the sun? Who doesn't gary,
you know, and we've addressed it.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I find that he looks rather youthful.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Though I could use moisturizer.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Men should moisturize. It has gay connotations to it. I
realized that. But fine, yeah, you should absolutely moisture. Be
a little gay.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Absolutely, And I'm not even crazy about it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It's regular bottom shelf Kroger brand, you know, face lotion,
But Noxima in the shower Kroger brand, by the way,
even then is like the off.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's been a part of my Rebecca gay heart.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh good for you. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You don't know I remember the name, but I realize
you can't picture the face.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, you're gay.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Gay men notoriously idolized obscure women from the nineties.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
She was the noxeema girl when we were in our
formative years of like you would be noticing, that's when
you would be hyper focused on people.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Gay heart exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, they were like the Rebecca Gayheart of the time. Okay, yeah,
especially justin Timberlake with the car.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Whatever, see harder. I was not into boy bands.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What were you into in the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, I like men a lot older, so I was
more into you know, you.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Like men older even then, is that what you said?
Or music?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I don't think I ever dated anyone my age really why,
I don't know. I know they're dumb.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think a lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, you're right, and I was nervous about that too,
of going with someone younger until you know there are
We compliment each other in such a great way, the
way that you would want a successful relationship to and
I assume that's true for you too. You seem happy
I'm younger.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm a year younger than my husband was when we met,
and the idea of me hooking up with a twenty
five year old.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah is gross like it grosses me? Yeah, it totally
grosses me.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It doesn't gross me.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean those guys barely know how to do their
own laundry.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's the question of beyond the hookup, what is there? Right?
I mean like a roll around in the old hay.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But do they even know what they're doing?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's the beauty of it.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
What you look a lot smarter and a lot more talented,
and a lot more.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And I thought, oh, I see, I.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Get to be and this is going to sound pornographic
and apologize thematically, not for any type of behavior, but
a little step daddy ish right, So to bring it
back full circle.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Now I'm in the life. Oh, and I'm explaining how.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Things Now you're slapping your husband at the table.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And obviously I would never lay a hand on him
that way, but I got to say, you know, no,
this is this is how the bills are paid, you
know kind of thing, and this is, uh, this is
how the home can look.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh. Yes see I'd never wanted to be a teacher
or a parent or anything.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I didn't know either, But that's what I mean by
I didn't realize I needed this, But he cooks and
is very caring.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
We very start to met him. I fear because I
hear stories of your spouse. He sounds lovely. I hear
stories about how he cooks, how he makes ice cream
based on flavors that you enjoy, that you.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
May direct him to stepdad.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't know if he's been able to leave the loft.
I don't know if your spouse and amusing finger quotes
here is actually a captive in some sort of weird
man cage that you have. And listen, you're my friend,
and I feel like I don't want to ask too
many questions because I don't want to ruin the friendship.
(09:47):
Like if your husband is in a cage right now,
just being fed when you deem fit for him to
be fed, I think that's fine. That's how much I
like you as a new friend. I don't care if
you're keeping your husband captive. I'm not going to ask
him any questions, just to preserve the friendship.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Well, three things. One, I appreciate the friendship. Yeah, absolutely so,
thank you for the boundary.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'll literally let you kill somebody, and I won't two
the situation at home.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He understands the reasons okay.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Three, I wouldn't ask too many questions so as not
to be implicated in any potential felonies.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, okay, you know what I mean. Yeah, No, I
get it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, he loves l A not as much as I do,
so because he doesn't get to leave that we moved here.
He moved here because of my dream to live in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Of course he did, right, He didn't want to come
here at all, no adjustment.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, I know. Threw him in the back of.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
The U haul and anyone around here met him.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
He's been here several times, been here several times. He's
been here several times.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You met him? Oh you have met him?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
All right?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Did he look free?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
No? Okay, So I met him when we still had
all of the newsroom, and I like glanced over and
he was like right next to Michael, sitting next to
myco wouldn't leave.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
His You're making this sound really bad.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Like just like linging on him, afraid to lease.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, it's not that. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, no, no, very lovely.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I hope it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He may occasionally feel that way, but so do I
I think that's how marriage works.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I'm new to marriage.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Like what, We're two and a half years into the
marriage part of it, the legal part of it, and
there are times where I mean, you don't have second thoughts,
but it's like, oh man, this is forever.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I either need to get my actors.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're in la now, it could be this week over.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And we live in a loft, right, there's nowhere to escape.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Any time that any unpleasantness, as it does arises, you can't.
So it kind of forces you to figure it out
because I don't want you to be mad three feet
from me for the rest.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
What do you fight over.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Occasionally? Spending?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Again, I think our priorities are often different on how
to plan and spend or I'll tell you this. I
can't believe I'm bringing this up again. The day we
found the beautiful cheap couch at Macy's that was on
an unbelievable discount.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's funny because I was going to ask, where did
you guys fall on the couch like this?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
We had talked about a couch. We were not on
a mission. We looked passively in a couple of spots.
Nothing really one is over. But this was such a
great deal. That I felt like we could not pass
this up. Meanwhile, the only reason we had walked past
that couch in that Macy's in Arcadia is because we
(12:47):
were trying to get a price check. You know what Macy's,
you can scan and sometimes when you pull things off
the last act section, you need to confirm that it
is as discounted as it claims. So that's what we
were going to do. He had found a box of
beautiful dishes, and that's another thing we've been thinking about,
is let's get some nicer dishes. We're in a place
in our lives where we should eat off nicer plates.
(13:09):
If people come over. These were like five hundred dollar
plates that were fifty percent off. It's like, let's see
if there's a steeper discount, because I'm not buying two
hundred and fifty dollars plates.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's an absurd request.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Six eight or ten how many plates?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
It was a set of twenty four, like a dinner set. Yeah,
so you had a service for four but lovely brand.
I forget the brand of vil Roy or Ville Joy
or something. I looked them up. I mean a lot
of great reviews for these dishes, but I thought that's
still too much to spend on even the nice dishes
for now, but we would not have found the couch.
So we got the couch, but he soked over the
(13:47):
dishes when we go to pick up that couch. I'd
like to get those dishes, and so we had to
have a talk, like, I don't you know that's the
difference in priorities.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's still a great deal on those dishes.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
An impulse person completely, and you are not exactly Okay,
I am impulsive, but I can rein it in.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, I can talk.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I can stop of you a little more analytic age exactly. Yeah, Yeah,
in my twenties when I was his age, I would have.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Been I could have been at twenty five. I'd still
be pissed about those dishes. And that that happened, what
two three weeks ago? Now?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Is he still talking about him a little bit?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
A little bit, Yeah, I get it, but he loves
the couch now. And I was feeling a little guilty
because I did push for the couch. It was not
something that he was as excited about. But I convinced
him that this is the one that we're not going
to get a better deal than this. Let's do that,
but he was really upset about the dishes.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, here's the thing that I remember being that age
or a little older by the time I got married
and getting a dish and putting dishes on the registry
that were I don't know what brand youre talking about,
but I was into that at that time, thinking like,
this will make me an adult. I'll have these nice
dishes and I'll cook and it'll be great and I'll
be an adult.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And it's like, no, that's not what it is now.
I ef and hate these dishes.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I hate these dishes so much, and they're beautiful, they're expensive.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I want eclectic dishes.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I want like a dish from like a place underneath
you and you're loft in downtown LA. And then I
want a dish from like Ecuador, and then I want
a dish from like, you know, Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I want an.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Eclectic dishware situation. I'm so tired of my dishes that match.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
They're so boring, they're so.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Sanitized, and I hate them every time I look at them.
I hate these dishes, and those were the dishes that
I loved at twenty five or what have you.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think what you learn with the age and this
is somewhereere wel also have conflict relatedly because I have.
He calls me a hoarder, and I'm not a hoarder.
Our home is organized and clean, everything has a place.
I could probably get rid of some stuff, but I
find that there is higher value in things that mean
something to you in a different way and experience. You
(15:50):
laughed at me a couple weeks ago for buying a
souvenir hoodie in Carmel because it just says Carmel on it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Never do I know? I know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But I also like to pick up a mug somewhere
because I drink a lot of coffee. But then when
I drink the coffee in the morning, I had a
mug this morning from the Traverse City Cherry Festival.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I bet he hates all mugs that came before him.
He does, I know I did too. All Right, Michael Monks,
stay tuned to more Michael Munks. That's all I'm gonna say.
All Right, stay tuned for more next week.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I don't even know how to
introduce this, you know, I usually just come in here
and this is the podcast that we do on the weekend.
It's called Keana. What is it called the Gas Weekend Fix?
(00:23):
Is what it's called gas?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Gary and Shannon, Yeah right, thanks for picking up. Thanks
for listen.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I'm good with acronyms.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
My mother listens to this sometimes she tries to just
get the normal show and she stumbles into the irreverent show,
which is fine because you can swear.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Michael Monks, what do you want me to say?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Say all of the things be George Carlin, Let's see
what do you have?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Poop?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay? What is another term for poop?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Crap?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't want to force it out of you. That
seems a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean, I like to swear, you do? I do?
I like to swear. I like swearing in all occasions.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I I respect that there are some areas where one
should bite one's tongue, right like the airwaves.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But this is a podcast it's a podcast, so anything,
so the.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Rules don't apply the same, right, What about from management
are they?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
See, I am a rule a bear.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Like I understand between you and me that other bosses
have been brought into this place.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, but ever since they got rid of the bosses
that hired me, I feel like it's the wild West. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I know all of these people can fire me in
a moment's notice and will and will. But there was
a different thing with like the mom and dad of
the bosses that were here before, because they both hired
me twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, and they were here a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And so I kind of had to you know, I
knew them when I was twenty five, and you know,
I grew up with them.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's like your parents.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, and now.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't know these people.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know, you gotta you know, I find that if
you get coffee, you run into them there, right, And Yeah,
they're lovely, they're lovely.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
They're very good people. Absolutely, they're gonna do great things here.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But I still feel like I can say fuck whenever
I want.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, because you're not my real dad.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You're not my real dad exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And then then yeah, I'll tell you when they become
your real dad, and I can share this from person.
When stepdad slaps you across the face once, you're like,
oh I am your loyal boy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh no, this happened to you, it did?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean, that's not abusive. I was out of line.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
What did you do to get slapped?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I gave the nastiest look that you could ever imagine
giving a grown man who is keeping me housed fed
in school?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
How old were you? Thirteen?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Perfect? That's the age when you start knock.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Me out of my chair and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I didn't like immediately adjust my behavior completely, but by
the time high school rolled around, I was a very
good boy.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Do you remember? I was a very good boy. That
sounds so dirty.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
My stepfather who raised me and as absolutely my father
was a soldier, a cop. You know it just you
have that type of discipline brought into two children's lives
that lived in the wild West, as you're calling it,
for a long time with a young single mom. Yeah,
it was quite an adjustment.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Did you get front hand or backhand?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I got a right, open hand across the left cheek.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Do you remember the context?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah? For whatever I was a smart kid. I did
not use my intelligence wisely. Instead, I used it for evil,
and I didn't steal or hurt anybody. I was never
that kind of bad kid. But I loved a mouth off.
I had a mouth you couldn't stop. Yeah, and then
they got sick of it, and I was doing it
at the dinner table in our smaller part went we
(03:42):
just moved to a new city to start our lives
together as a family, and he had enough.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Do you think you were doing that for attention?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I'm sure that if we dive into an area where
I don't want to, like weep while we talk about it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Smart, I'm smart in a sassy way.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I think as many kids do when they're into a
new family situation. They want to know why the old
family didn't work right, and so like this isn't how
it's supposed to be, and so there's a level of resentment.
I always you know, I was born to an eighteen
year old mom, right, Wow, So we didn't have a
lot of things early on.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We're great now.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
My family worked hard and moved up in the economic classes,
and in fact, we own this building that we're talking
again right now, We've done well, but you know, at first,
it just it was not comfortable. There weren't a lot
of there weren't a lot of great comforts. And when
you're left to your own devices, you start to feel
(04:40):
like you can.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Get away with anything. Are you the oldest, I'm the oldest.
Brothers a couple of years younger.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So you and your mom are super close.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, you know, And I think about our age difference,
and I will be in my six.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Our husbands are different, more differents.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mentioned to you once that if you and I,
if we went on a double date, you and your
husband and me my spouse.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We look like we were.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
We would look like well we would look like it
would look like you and I were on a date
with our son and grandfather.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Our dad.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right, Yeah, everyone would think, Michael Shannon, what an adorable son.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You haven't whose father is this? Yeah? We are both
in age gap marriage, Yes we are. And I never
planned for that. It was not my style at all.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
See, my husband's half Asian, and so he look at us.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Look at us, look at our colonialist assets.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I wasn't trying to pretend that I'm holier than that.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, No, we are the colonizers.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
But I'm just saying he looks a lot young. When
I first met my husband, I thought he was a
lot younger. I thought he was a good ten years
younger than he was because of all this racist because
he's half Asian. I'm mean, his father, his whole family
has aged really well.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It's one thing that the world has given us white
people is one everything except the ability to age as
gracefully as the will.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Say the other races.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You do have nice skin? Do you put.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Creams moisturized and stay out of the sun? Who doesn't gary,
you know, and we've addressed it.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I find that he looks rather youthful.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Though I could use moisturizer.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Men should moisturize. It has gay connotations to it. I
realized that. But fine, yeah, you should absolutely moisture. Be
a little gay.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Absolutely, And I'm not even crazy about it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
It's regular bottom shelf Kroger brand, you know, face lotion,
But Noxima in the shower Kroger brand, by the way,
even then is like the off.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's been a part of my Rebecca gay heart.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Oh good for you. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You don't know I remember the name, but I realize
you can't picture the face.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, you're gay.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Gay men notoriously idolized obscure women from the nineties.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
She was the noxeema girl when we were in our
formative years of like you would be noticing, that's when
you would be hyper focused on people.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Gay heart exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, they were like the Rebecca Gayheart of the time. Okay, yeah,
especially justin Timberlake with the car.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Whatever, see harder. I was not into boy bands.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What were you into in the late nineties.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, I like men a lot older, so I was
more into you know, you.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Like men older even then, is that what you said?
Or music?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I don't think I ever dated anyone my age really why,
I don't know. I know they're dumb.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think a lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, you're right, and I was nervous about that too,
of going with someone younger until you know there are
We compliment each other in such a great way, the
way that you would want a successful relationship to and
I assume that's true for you too. You seem happy
I'm younger.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm a year younger than my husband was when we met,
and the idea of me hooking up with a twenty
five year old.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah is gross like it grosses me? Yeah, it totally
grosses me.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It doesn't gross me.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean those guys barely know how to do their
own laundry.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's the question of beyond the hookup, what is there? Right?
I mean like a roll around in the old hay.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But do they even know what they're doing?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's the beauty of it.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
What you look a lot smarter and a lot more talented,
and a lot more.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And I thought, oh, I see, I.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Get to be and this is going to sound pornographic
and apologize thematically, not for any type of behavior, but
a little step daddy ish right, So to bring it
back full circle.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Now I'm in the life. Oh, and I'm explaining how.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Things Now you're slapping your husband at the table.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And obviously I would never lay a hand on him
that way, but I got to say, you know, no,
this is this is how the bills are paid, you
know kind of thing, and this is, uh, this is
how the home can look.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh. Yes see I'd never wanted to be a teacher
or a parent or anything.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I didn't know either, But that's what I mean by
I didn't realize I needed this, But he cooks and
is very caring.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
We very start to met him. I fear because I
hear stories of your spouse. He sounds lovely. I hear
stories about how he cooks, how he makes ice cream
based on flavors that you enjoy, that you.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
May direct him to stepdad.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't know if he's been able to leave the loft.
I don't know if your spouse and amusing finger quotes
here is actually a captive in some sort of weird
man cage that you have. And listen, you're my friend,
and I feel like I don't want to ask too
many questions because I don't want to ruin the friendship.
(09:47):
Like if your husband is in a cage right now,
just being fed when you deem fit for him to
be fed, I think that's fine. That's how much I
like you as a new friend. I don't care if
you're keeping your husband captive. I'm not going to ask
him any questions, just to preserve the friendship.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Well, three things. One, I appreciate the friendship. Yeah, absolutely so,
thank you for the boundary.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'll literally let you kill somebody, and I won't two
the situation at home.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
He understands the reasons okay.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Three, I wouldn't ask too many questions so as not
to be implicated in any potential felonies.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, okay, you know what I mean. Yeah, No, I
get it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, he loves l A not as much as I do,
so because he doesn't get to leave that we moved here.
He moved here because of my dream to live in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Of course he did, right, He didn't want to come
here at all, no adjustment.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, I know. Threw him in the back of.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
The U haul and anyone around here met him.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
He's been here several times, been here several times. He's
been here several times.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You met him? Oh you have met him?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
All right?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Did he look free?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
No? Okay, So I met him when we still had
all of the newsroom, and I like glanced over and
he was like right next to Michael, sitting next to
myco wouldn't leave.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
His You're making this sound really bad.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Like just like linging on him, afraid to lease.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, it's not that. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, no, no, very lovely.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I hope it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He may occasionally feel that way, but so do I
I think that's how marriage works.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I'm new to marriage.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Like what, We're two and a half years into the
marriage part of it, the legal part of it, and
there are times where I mean, you don't have second thoughts,
but it's like, oh man, this is forever.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
I either need to get my actors.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're in la now, it could be this week over.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And we live in a loft, right, there's nowhere to escape.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Any time that any unpleasantness, as it does arises, you can't.
So it kind of forces you to figure it out
because I don't want you to be mad three feet
from me for the rest.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
What do you fight over.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Occasionally? Spending?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Again, I think our priorities are often different on how
to plan and spend or I'll tell you this. I
can't believe I'm bringing this up again. The day we
found the beautiful cheap couch at Macy's that was on
an unbelievable discount.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's funny because I was going to ask, where did
you guys fall on the couch like this?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
We had talked about a couch. We were not on
a mission. We looked passively in a couple of spots.
Nothing really one is over. But this was such a
great deal. That I felt like we could not pass
this up. Meanwhile, the only reason we had walked past
that couch in that Macy's in Arcadia is because we
(12:47):
were trying to get a price check. You know what Macy's,
you can scan and sometimes when you pull things off
the last act section, you need to confirm that it
is as discounted as it claims. So that's what we
were going to do. He had found a box of
beautiful dishes, and that's another thing we've been thinking about,
is let's get some nicer dishes. We're in a place
in our lives where we should eat off nicer plates.
(13:09):
If people come over. These were like five hundred dollar
plates that were fifty percent off. It's like, let's see
if there's a steeper discount, because I'm not buying two
hundred and fifty dollars plates.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's an absurd request.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Six eight or ten how many plates?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
It was a set of twenty four, like a dinner set. Yeah,
so you had a service for four but lovely brand.
I forget the brand of vil Roy or Ville Joy
or something. I looked them up. I mean a lot
of great reviews for these dishes, but I thought that's
still too much to spend on even the nice dishes
for now, but we would not have found the couch.
So we got the couch, but he soked over the
(13:47):
dishes when we go to pick up that couch. I'd
like to get those dishes, and so we had to
have a talk, like, I don't you know that's the
difference in priorities.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's still a great deal on those dishes.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
An impulse person completely, and you are not exactly Okay,
I am impulsive, but I can rein it in.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, I can talk.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I can stop of you a little more analytic age exactly. Yeah, Yeah,
in my twenties when I was his age, I would have.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Been I could have been at twenty five. I'd still
be pissed about those dishes. And that that happened, what
two three weeks ago? Now?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Is he still talking about him a little bit?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
A little bit, Yeah, I get it, but he loves
the couch now. And I was feeling a little guilty
because I did push for the couch. It was not
something that he was as excited about. But I convinced
him that this is the one that we're not going
to get a better deal than this. Let's do that,
but he was really upset about the dishes.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, here's the thing that I remember being that age
or a little older by the time I got married
and getting a dish and putting dishes on the registry
that were I don't know what brand youre talking about,
but I was into that at that time, thinking like,
this will make me an adult. I'll have these nice
dishes and I'll cook and it'll be great and I'll
be an adult.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And it's like, no, that's not what it is now.
I ef and hate these dishes.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I hate these dishes so much, and they're beautiful, they're expensive.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I want eclectic dishes.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I want like a dish from like a place underneath
you and you're loft in downtown LA. And then I
want a dish from like Ecuador, and then I want
a dish from like, you know, Switzerland.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I want an.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Eclectic dishware situation. I'm so tired of my dishes that match.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
They're so boring, they're so.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Sanitized, and I hate them every time I look at them.
I hate these dishes, and those were the dishes that
I loved at twenty five or what have you.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think what you learn with the age and this
is somewhereere wel also have conflict relatedly because I have.
He calls me a hoarder, and I'm not a hoarder.
Our home is organized and clean, everything has a place.
I could probably get rid of some stuff, but I
find that there is higher value in things that mean
something to you in a different way and experience. You
(15:50):
laughed at me a couple weeks ago for buying a
souvenir hoodie in Carmel because it just says Carmel on it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Never do I know? I know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But I also like to pick up a mug somewhere
because I drink a lot of coffee. But then when
I drink the coffee in the morning, I had a
mug this morning from the Traverse City Cherry Festival.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I bet he hates all mugs that came before him.
He does, I know I did too. All Right, Michael Monks,
stay tuned to more Michael Munks. That's all I'm gonna say.
All Right, stay tuned for more next week.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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Speaker 3 (16:28):
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