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July 26, 2025 15 mins
Gary is BACK!!! He and Shannon swap vacation stories, confess their struggles with taking time off, and debate what makes the perfect getaway. From a rare two-week vacation in Hawaii to impulsive international trips thanks to cheap airfare, they explore how travel changes with age, responsibility, and job ownership. Plus: the curse of tourist-packed destinations, the art of doing nothing, and why some of us just can’t sit still... even in paradise.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
HI. Welcome back to the Weekend Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Thank you. It's been a couple of weekends.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Do you remember what it's called.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I believe it's called the Weekend Fixed, the gas Weekend Fix,
because I did not. Oh you don't remember what it
was called? Now do you do what I'm not here?
I just come in and think.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
About all the things that you do when you are here.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh, so you feel so I am missed, is what
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I wouldn't go that far. I just said I realized
the things you do.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I actually wanted to talk about because I for the
first time that I was talking with producer Michelle, who's
been around forever. She was here when I started here
twenty plus years ago and twenty one plus years ago,
and she asked me, after I got back from my vacation,
was that the first two week vacation you've ever taken?

(00:58):
And outside of changing jobs, like from moving from Seattle
to Los Angeles, that's the first two week vacation I've
taken probably ever.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, yeah, and I said that before you left.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think this is ever the first two weeks, because
it's just not in you to take vacation, certainly not
a big chunk of it. And I was worried about
you a little bit, just that you would be able
to sit and do nothing or because Hawaii vacations, I
struggle And that sounds so first world problem, but like,
well I do struggle on like going to Portavarta or whatever,

(01:36):
and like sitting there. My husband could sit on the
beach for days with nothing to do and be perfectly fine,
whereas I'm kind of like, all right, I finished this book,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Where we're gonna go? What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know kind of a thing, And you know, it
does take a couple of days to kind of wiggle
that out of you and just sit and be at peace.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, And I acknowledge that it's I'm lucky to be
able to take a two week va and that I
understand the sound of it. Of like, it took two
weeks and it wasn't in Hawaii the entire time. But
but I wanted to talk about those vacations and places
that you go, and again, you've been more places than

(02:18):
I have. We have probably different tastes in terms of
what we would do or what we would consider a vacation.
But wherever you go, you know, whatever it is that
you do to take a break from work or where
whatever you're taking a break from, there's a lot of
decision in making that goes into that, and you can
do it differently when you're twenty than when you're thirty

(02:39):
five versus when you're fifty. Like all of these types
of there's a lot of different criteria that go into
deciding where you would go to vacation.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
There's also changes in employment. I had no problem taking
off for a two week vacation when I was reporting
or when I was anchoring John and Ken because they
don't they don't need me. It's not like I don't
have any ownership to those things. They were jobs, they
were great jobs. But I have noticed since we've done
this show, I'm more reluctant to say, Okay, I'll take

(03:11):
off for two weeks because I feel and I think
you feel, the exact same way.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Your kids moved out of the house.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Since we started the show, I thought when your kids
left the house, you'd be more into vacationing. But I
also thought that I underestimated our willingness to stay at.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Work, and I mean COVID.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Obviously there was a responsibility where you couldn't leave, but
you also wanted to be here for everybody and for
the whole thing. But I have not taken vacations like
that recently, and that's one of the main reasons too. Well.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
And so you've traveled internationally a lot more than I have.
How do you make a decision about where you go?
If you're going to go somewhere. I mean, we joke
about the Estonian pancakes and that sort of stuff, But
you've traveled through Europe, You've been in a bunch of
places that I've never never thought of going. How do
you make a decision about where are you going to go?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
If it's the deal we when we went to Japan
two thousand and nine, we were sitting around reading the
paper on a Saturday. There was a deal for airfare
to Tokyo for like two people for five hundred bucks
round trip, and we're like, okay, And that's one of
the joys of not having kids. People say they're going
to do that, we actually do that. Like we were
just like, Okay, we've got nothing going on next week, Sure,

(04:25):
let's go to Tokyo for cheap. Like part of that
is the deals that come up. Part of it's where
everyone's talking about going I've heard.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I heard about Croatia.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
For instance, my husband had a court reporter that he
worked with twenty years ago. She had family from Croatia.
Half of her famili's from Croatia, and she talked about
how beautiful it was and that always stuck out to
me as like, oh, it sounds wonderful and it seems
like it's not totally crushed by tourists, and I want
to go there.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
So he went there and it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
And it was right when Dubrovnik was used in Game
of Thrones, but it was for the before the cruise
ship started docking there. So like, part of it's finding
the places that haven't been crushed by tourists.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's one of the things.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I've gone to Italy because you got to go to Italy, right,
but crushed by tourists venice, I can see where it's magical.
It wasn't when I was there, you know, I love
to say that it was. I'd love to say it's everything.
It's it's everything people say it is, and it is.
But if you are looking up, you know what I mean,
Like you're looking down, it's just cobblestone alleys that are tiny,
and they're flooded with tourists and cheap shops, and the

(05:27):
waterways are clogged with too many boats and the city
is sinking and you can see where it was once
so magical and beautiful and you're like, eh, it's been
ruined by tourists. So part of it's finding those places
that are not.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
My sister went to Italy last summer and found I
don't remember the name of the town, but it's basically
where Equalizer three was filmed, and this tiny little Italian town.
Then Zel Washington sticks out like a sore thumb, of course,
but in the movie. But it was right along the water,
very few tourists, Yeah, very little to be to do.

(06:01):
I mean, it's not like you're in Rome or Venice
or something like that. But she had an absolutely wonderful time.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, those are the places that like, I want to find,
and I haven't done enough good sitting down and researching
that and figuring out where to go. Where do you
where are you guys talking about because what's one of
my favorite things is you go on vacation, you have
a great time, and they're like, Okay, where are we
going next to?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, And it's funny because that became that was a
topic of conversation the last night of our time in Hawaii.
Like I said, we had a massive amount of family member,
you know, two dozen people were there basically the entire time,
and that was a question of half jokingly half serious, Okay,
what are we doing next? Like what do we doing
next summer? Well, I don't think we're going to do
that full twenty seven person trip again because it just

(06:42):
may never work out again. But there were should we
go to kankun, should we stay tropical? Should we go
camping together? Should we do something like that? Our mentality,
my wife and I have this mentality of she loves
to travel. I'm just not that guy. I just oh that, Well,
it's not my first it's not my first inclination. When

(07:06):
I do it, I'm perfectly love it. I absolutely love it.
I think it's great. We have a great time. Like
on a whim, we've gone to places like I don't know,
before we were before we were married, we went to
a trip to Disneyland, and as lomb as that sounds,
I was reluctant to do it because I was like,

(07:26):
it's going to cost money and back in the day,
but we had a great time.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Part of it's how you grew up. You grew up
not going on vacation, right, and that's a huge chunk
of it. Another huge chunk of it is and then
you had kids to raise for twenty years, right, and
that's a huge chunk of it where you don't.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Have money or time or any of it.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And so now you're kind of the place where you
know you're you're fifty years old and it's like thank
oh you, by the way, you're welcome, but I mean
roughly fifty. And it's kind of like you're pivoting. You're
pivoting about things that you're into, about hobbies, about things
that take up your free time because the stuff that
did doesn't and.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
You're not your parents.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
You have the ability, thankfully to go and go take
your wife to that small town in Italy or whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's just a different way of thinking of pivoting.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's also one of those Money is obviously an issue
in terms of travel costs, and like you said, it's
great to be able to find that hidden deal somewhere
going to know.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I love that stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
My husband doesn't like to spend money, but he loves
to find those hidden jets and travel on the cheap
and you can do it and not feel cheap.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
One of the things that I would love to do,
and I haven't figured out exactly how to do it well,
is block off a week, think of whatever, say the
third week of March, and find something to do that
third week of March and leave it wide open. Yeah,
I don't know where I'm going, I'm not sure what
I need to pack, I'm not sure what, but those

(08:51):
you know, a couple of weeks leading up to it,
finding what are those last minute deals where you know
you're going to an area either that is maybe off
season at the third week of March.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
But an adventure. I think that's a great idea that
I would be. That's kind of like the that's kind
of balls to the wall for somebody who doesn't travel
to just be like we're going to go to the
We're going to be like as impulsive as possible.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Maybe an advanced move, like I don't know if I'm
going to go to South through but it's something that's
that's that would be a different way to do. I
love that if you do that, I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
We can book that, we can take the same week
off and then we can individually figure out where we're
gonna go and we'll have adventures to talk about.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
That would be fun.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
It is one of those things that that I've again,
I've always thought about, and I'm sure that with the
advent of the way computer computers and the internet have
so much to do with travel now that there would
be those last minute deals. I mean they do it
on hotel websites where if you roll into a city,
are the way to go.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I have never been programmed like that.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm a norcou person, so I'm always like planned and
make sure everything's booked and reservations. But I'm doing it
wrong because i know people that travel that do it
last minute. They get great deals, great rooms, great places.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, you've got to just be not adjustable.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
But amenable. Just you have to be flexible, flexible. And
the old fashioned version of that was your parents would
get in the car, or maybe your grandparents would get
in the car on a Saturday and they would just
drive somewhere.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Oh yeah, oh, maybe you're entertainment.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Maybe they know a cousin who lives, you know, four
towns over, and maybe they stay the night.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Entertainment was let's go for a drive.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And I've thought about this and what my next thing
to do is what I think one of the next
things I'm gonna do is just rent one of those
sprinter vans. Just pack like Duffel bags, you know, like
at leisure and tennis shoes and flip flops, and just
drive and just go and stay in a motel sometimes,
stay in the van sometimes and just do that, like

(10:57):
across the country for a week and a half.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
All right, a couple of quick speed round that I
just thought of. Okay, you have to make a choice,
and you have to make a choice quickly. Okay, do
you go international or do you stay within the United States?
You have you have a five day trip, a five
days seven day trip, seven day.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Trip seven days. So that's a big difference.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
International or with time a year uh in March, I'll
say no, I'll say late May, so the beginning of
late or late.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Spring, kids are still in school. I love it. I
would seven days let's go international.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Okay, okay, are you a hotel or airbnb, vacation rental
kind of both?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Really stay three days someplace day, three days someplace else.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Okay. I also want to talk about that. Uh, that
to me was one of the greatest aspects of a
vacation that we took to the Smoky Mountains last year. Yeah.
Was we stayed in three different places. We stayed with
with friends for a couple of days we stayed and
that weird treehouse Airbnb for a couple of days, and
then a regular house Airbnb for a couple of days.

(12:06):
And that was in a hotel, mix in a hotel.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
And staying different places.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
It was so much.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
It was it added such a layer of adventure.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, you're in different places, and it couldn't even be
in the same town. I mean, we happened to move
towns each time we moved a place. But but you're
not paying exorbitant more for those types of places. You're
just staying in a different place for a couple of days.
That was so that was a lot of fun. So
you you would do.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Both, Yeah, I like to do that. I like to
move around and.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Then generally ocean or forest you.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Can do both, like Costa Rica. Remember we did both.
You went to Costa Rica.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
We did both.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You know, you don't have to shut the door in
any of this. That's the beauty of travel. That's I
guess you haven't picked a place.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I have not picked a place.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, what about you? What would where would you like
to go?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Now? I would say there's enough in the United States
that I haven't seen that I would I would love
to see, like the Northeast. I've never spent time in
Boston or anywhere. And I've literally never been in New York.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, so that would I would not put that as
number one for you.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, but but I know that that's one of those
things that people say, if you've never been to New York,
you have to go to exp.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I do like the East Coast. There's a lot of history.
I like Washing, I like all of it. I love
New York, Love New York.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
But there's an attitude over there, sure you know, Like
I love Boston. Not a fan of Cape cod not
a fan of the coast, not a fan of the people.
There's an attitude that's very different. That's it doesn't feel
like you're traveling, is the other thing.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Like, you get out to Portugal, you're gonna feel like
you're traveling.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
That And I think that's probably the aspect that is
the difference between my wife and I. I feel like
I'm traveling. If I go to Washington, DC. Been there,
I loved it. I absolutely had a great time. But
if I went to the Florida Key, that would be
completely different. Like the Florida Keys would be tropical enough, sure,
and and different enough and just a different lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
But you just did tropical and you just did America.
So maybe we.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Maybe Toronto in February.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Canada, Canada.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's like I watched the new South Park last night.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Did you see the PSA that they did about the Yeah,
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
This Oh my god, I haven't watched South Park since
nineteen ninety nine and I watched it last night.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Anyway, all right, good times. Well, Well let's figure it out.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, that'll figure out that.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
The adventure way traveling is planning it and figure out
where you're going to go and planning it.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
But then if we do the surprise thing where we
just you can't book anything until like March first.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, I think we should maybe do that in March.
Let's pick the third week in March.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
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(15:12):
us out. So we'll see you on Monday.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right, do we say stay driving now? We don't want
them drive. We want them very very well.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You
can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty
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