July 5, 2025 • 16 mins
In this post–4th of July edition of the GAS Weekend Fix, Gary and Shannon dive into what might be the real test of any marriage: the seven-hour road trip. From passive-aggressive braking to GPS bickering, and who really deserves to control the aux cord—this episode has it all.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, welcome back once again to the gas Weekend Fix.
We're doing this one right after the fourth of July,
which in Seattle is the first day of sunshine. It's
a way to celebrate the holiday because every time I
lived in Seattle for those six years, at fourth of
July was an absolute weather wise, it was an absolute mess.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
But July fifth through Labor.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Day gorgeous, a gorgeous six eight, ten weeks of weather.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
But so anyway, in other Seattle news, Yes, welcome to
Seattle this weekend fig.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
These are the stories I mean, we couldn't necessarily do
during the week, even though we did have a holiday
and we talked about a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
On Friday, you just.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Swore, And I must say, I'm still at my mother's house.
There's no swearing in this house. And you just hihlated
one of the major rules.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
On a second, I find that very hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You tell me many stories about you learning how to
swear from your parents.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh, I learned a new one this week. Do you
want to hear it. She's gonna kill me. I don't care. Yeah, okay,
So she says to me earlier in the week, Oh,
what an asshole? I mean a shit ass And I
go whoa, And I go, what's the what's what's the difference?
Because she seemed to correct herself like the person was
an asshole and then no, no, no, no, that's not an asshole.
(01:34):
That's a shit ass. And I said what And I
said what is this shit ass? And She's like wow,
and she like puts some thought, like she looked like
she puts some serious thought into this. And then she's like, well,
I can point it out, you know when I see it.
And so I'm just thinking, wow, this is fascinating that
she's differentiating between profanities for somebody. And I'm at Safeway
(01:59):
picking up some milk, and do we have Safeways in
southern California.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, they're called Vond's, right. I think it's the same company.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, it's funny. I hear myself saying Safeway and I'm like,
I don't usually say that word. Is that? Yeah, it
is the same company. So anyway, but I'm at the
Northern California Vaughns and I'm picking up milk and I'm
at the express lane, and you know, we're the you know,
it's eight items, ten items something like that. Sure, and
there's a woman ahead of me who has about forty
(02:31):
seven items, I mean produce and stalking up and maybe couponing,
like she's got the full, the full panoply of grocery
day going on on that rotating or on that moving belt.
And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, what a
shit ass. And I'm like, that's the difference. And now
(02:52):
you know she's not an asshole, but she is a
shit ass. And I text my mom, I think I
just came across a shit ass.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And that's exactly right now. It makes sense, doesn't it?
When you guys drive, When you and your husband drive
somewhere road trip, whether it's I mean not to dinner
or something, but maybe an hour plus hour, he drives
most of the time, or do you or do you split?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, it depends if we want to get there quickly.
If we're going to drive to Vegas, I drive because
we'll get there in about three hours. If he drives,
we'll get there in about five and a half. I drive.
I do not pay attention to the signs on the road.
I drive very fast. So it depends like if I've
got something to do, I e. Work, finger quotes, work,
(03:43):
or you know, I want to read a book. Like
sometimes when I'm really into a book, I'll read in
the car and then I won't drive. But I do,
like you, I do like to be in control of
a situation, so I'm more likely to drive. But I
came across this article in The New York Times by
Mary McNamara. Great name, by the way, and I feel
(04:05):
like I've read a book by Mary macnamara. But anyway,
in the headline is this, If a seven hour road
trip up the Five doesn't ruin your marriage, nothing will.
And she talks about her husband. She and her husband
driving from La to Pedaluma and back. Now, this is
a drive I do routinely, my husband and I have
done routinely. Pedaluma is the town over from my mom's
(04:27):
and you're from Petaluma. And I'm thinking to myself, I
have never I mean, there are tests on marriages. A
road trip, to me isn't one of them. But maybe
that's just because by this point in the relationship I'm
familiar with all the things that bother my husband on
the road, whether it's traffic. Trucks are a big thing
(04:48):
for him. He hates trucks on the road. Thinks that
they should take some sort of weird truck road that
nobody knows about, magic truck road.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, like all these trucks.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Again, I'm like, well, how are the goods gonna get
I don't say this out of course not, but like,
how are the goods going to get to and fro
if we don't have trucks to deliver them? But I
don't say that, but you know, it seems like maybe
one of the early on things in a relationship that
could break it is a road trip.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's funny because so this In this article, Mary McNamara
describes that they're going to a wedding, and she said,
on the way to the wedding, I found myself hoping
that the couple we would be celebrating had spent enough
time in the car together. That a long term personal
relationship requires the acknowledgment and acceptance of certain things about
your partner. That to me is the nugget of the
(05:36):
entire story. She talks about getting in fights with her husband,
her husband's driving and asks her to get the directions
specifically to get out of LA, like, what's the quickest
way to get out of LA?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So you get on I five and just bombed. He
should know that. He should know that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And what he does is he asks her to open
Apple Maps or something like that and then argues with
what the computer tells him. And there's something about I
could care less. I mean, I love to get somewhere fast.
I hate stopping. You can't control that, and you just
got to sit there. You can try to zoom through
(06:14):
traffic and zip in and out of lanes, but that
just jacks up everything for everybody else. It's a question
of whether, in that moment or not a moment, but
a seven hour trip, whatever it is, does your spouse
slash partner slash road trip buddy have enough confidence in
you that you're going to be able to take control
of the situation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
There's also just realizing you're gonna hit those things that
you just mentioned. I was driving up here on Monday
and my husband says to him, and I was by myself,
and he says, Oh, looks like you're gonna be right
in time to hit the traffic in the east Bay,
and I thought to myself, Eh, all right, so I
hit the traffic in the East Bay, right, you know
(06:55):
what I mean? That was my attitude, like all right,
I've got and I haven't always had that attitude, dude,
but it's the attitude I have right now of just like, yeah,
all right, so I hit the traffic. What okay? And
I did? I hit the traffic in the East Bay.
You know how long? When you say that, you said
it too, you said traffic in the East Bay. Do
you know how long that traffic lasts from where you
(07:16):
hit like Oakland to where you would get off on
the five to eighty split to go to Petaluma or Nevado.
It's three point two miles, that's all. It's three point
two miles of traffic, and it's guaranteed and it sucks,
but it's three point two miles. It's not twenty two miles.
It really takes an extra nine minutes. That bumper to
bumper traffic for that stretch is nine minutes extra. Can
(07:39):
we handle that? Yes, we can see.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And then that's the other thing is if you there
are people who like to hack traffic and hack ways
or their their you know, navigation system in their car,
whatever it is, to try to absolutely minimize the amount
of time it takes to get somewhere, which is fine
and great, you know, it's a great extra size, but
you then put yourself in a position where you're leaving
(08:04):
way off when you want to. Right, you're either leaving
at four thirty in the morning or you're leaving at
eight thirty at night, in order to try to get
the absolute lowest volume of traffic wherever you happen to
be going. And it's just one of those things where
it's like, well, if you have the freedom to do that, great,
Not everybody does.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Not everybody I would.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Rather leave, Like when this podcast has dropped, I will
be making this drive from Nevado to la and I
will have left at five am, probably because I do
want to miss the traffic and I like to get
an early start. I like to leave early. If I'm
going to go somewhere that day, I'm going to get
an early start. It's just the way it's going to be.
(08:46):
But you know, when you think about hacking the system
or whatever, to me, that just adds extra stress on you, right,
I mean, maybe if you're super into it and it's
fun for you cool, but like for me to be like, oh, no,
I'll go this and I'll go left, I'll go round here,
and I'll take this and i'll take that. Oh they
don't know about this. That to me is just way
too much effort. I'll sit on the freeway in traffic
(09:07):
rather than play that game. At this point in my life,
maybe it's just been beaten out of me.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, But twenty five years ago, my dad was one
of the first people to get one of those cd
ROMs of the mapping program, right, and it was like
six cd ROMs, and it was supposedly every street and
road in the United States. And he would just sit
there and go through and look at maps like that
(09:31):
was his version of YouTube. I mean, he would just
he'd pick a city that he'd been to or a
city that he wanted to go to, and he would
just look at the streets. And that was back in
the day when they weren't augmented with satellite pictures or
satellite images of the rows. It was just a stick drawing,
very crude stick drunk. He was fascinated by that. So
(09:53):
cut to like fifteen years ago, he would print out
the map, the Google map with direction, et cetera, and
add his own footnotes to it, like I'm not going
to take that second right, I'm going to go down
a few more blocks and take the fourth right turn.
I feel like I can cut some you know, shave
some time off that way. That was a game to him,
like you were saying, if you're into that, and he
(10:15):
was totally into that. But this issue of splitting time
behind the wheel also came up just a couple of
weeks ago when my wife and I drove up also
to northern California, also bombing up I five, to my
sister's retimer party, and I made a comment, and I
will admit a couple of pops in I made a
(10:37):
comment to one of my nephews about how fast my
wife drives. I mean, I'll set cruise control on on
I five. I'll set it at eighty one, eighty two,
something like that. And that's only if it's wide open.
You know, everything's fine. I'm totally comfortable, we're in a groove.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Whatever. She'll cruise.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
She doesn't use cruise con ll very often, but if
she does, she'll set it at like eighty six or
eighty seven. And even then she doesn't stay at eighty
six or eighty seven for a long time. She'll come
back down to seventy seven, depending on what's going on
in traffic. But I made a comment about you have
no idea how fast your aunt drives, and her head
snapped around. I thought she was going to hit me,
(11:21):
And she said, well, you didn't say anything when you
were in the car, And I thought, and I said
to her out loud, oh yeah, that'd be a good
idea for me to for me to smack talk you're
driving while we're doing close to ninety miles an hour
on the freeway, for me to start chirping at you, like, hey.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
You go a little too fast, don't you think this?
Come on, what are you doing? You're trying to break
the sound barrier or something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I can't fathom the idea of criticizing someone while they're driving.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's good, But did you do what my husband does?
Because I like your wife drive faster than he does.
So because you two, you, you and my both rule followers,
and I don't, and neither does your wife. And what
my husband will do is if I'm driving eighty seven
miles per hour, which, of course, why wouldn't you on
(12:11):
the five where there's nothing there and there's no cars,
he will brace himself like he is taking off for
a rocket launch. He will he does a thing that
like your parents would do when they were teaching you
how to drive, where they would like step on the
emergency brake or step on the brake like on their side,
(12:33):
like throw.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
His hands up on the dashboard, Like he'll put his hands.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Up like on the handle of the truck, like bracing himself.
But that used to bother me, but it does not
bother me at all anymore. It's just the way we drive.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, see that's and that's the other thing I think
that Mary McNamara in this article kind of loses side
of is like, hey.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
You signed up for this, you know, you know this
is going to be an issue.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Got in the car.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, you could have flyed, flying fly.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, you could have fled.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
You could have fled.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You could have flown to the Bay Area, take a
flight out of Burbank and be there in forty minutes.
Like you you've made a decision that you're going to
drive instead of fly. So this is the kind of
thing that you're gonna have to deal with. And it's
a funny article. It's a it's a funny thing that
to you know, to put in print that you and
your husband have vastly different driving.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Practices. Perhaps, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's not the headline of this this will ruin your marriage?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Like what? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And like I said, I think the point of it
is you should these are there are things that you
should do as a couple before you decide that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
This is the way you want to spend the rest
of it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Did your wife try to leave you though after you
you dimed her off about her driving?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, No, she didn't. She just continued to drive that way.
But I will say this, my it's funny that you
mentioned the whole like reacting to things your husband does
when you're driving. My mother in law used to do that. Well,
it probably still does. I've just never driven with her
in the front seat with me, but I've seen it
with my wife driving and my mother in law in
(14:13):
the front seat next to her, where she will kick
her foot through the floorboard to hit the brake. Yeah
for nothing. I mean, I'm sitting in the back seat,
I can see everything that's going on and it did
not warrant a kick.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's a special mother daughter bond. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
About gosh and I. It's one of those things where
my wife would very patiently just ignore it, and then
when it happens the fourteenth time on a six mile drive,
she's like, you not, could you just like just allow
maybe sit in the back seat or turn your head
so you're not looking at what's going on.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I sit on top of the car and we'll just
strap you down, like vacation.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, or Jim was it James Comey's some other.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh the dog, the dog, Mitt Romney's dog.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Mitt Romney. Thank you? So anyway, just drive safe. I
guess right, yeah, is it over? It could be? Do
you want it to be?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I don't know. I don't have a clock.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It's it's almost fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh that's about right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
All right, So listen.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, welcome back once again to the gas Weekend Fix.
We're doing this one right after the fourth of July,
which in Seattle is the first day of sunshine. It's
a way to celebrate the holiday because every time I
lived in Seattle for those six years, at fourth of
July was an absolute weather wise, it was an absolute mess.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
But July fifth through Labor.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Day gorgeous, a gorgeous six eight, ten weeks of weather.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
But so anyway, in other Seattle news, Yes, welcome to
Seattle this weekend fig.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
These are the stories I mean, we couldn't necessarily do
during the week, even though we did have a holiday
and we talked about a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
On Friday, you just.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Swore, And I must say, I'm still at my mother's house.
There's no swearing in this house. And you just hihlated
one of the major rules.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
On a second, I find that very hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You tell me many stories about you learning how to
swear from your parents.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh, I learned a new one this week. Do you
want to hear it. She's gonna kill me. I don't care. Yeah, okay,
So she says to me earlier in the week, Oh,
what an asshole? I mean a shit ass And I
go whoa, And I go, what's the what's what's the difference?
Because she seemed to correct herself like the person was
an asshole and then no, no, no, no, that's not an asshole.
(01:34):
That's a shit ass. And I said what And I
said what is this shit ass? And She's like wow,
and she like puts some thought, like she looked like
she puts some serious thought into this. And then she's like, well,
I can point it out, you know when I see it.
And so I'm just thinking, wow, this is fascinating that
she's differentiating between profanities for somebody. And I'm at Safeway
(01:59):
picking up some milk, and do we have Safeways in
southern California.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, they're called Vond's, right. I think it's the same company.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, it's funny. I hear myself saying Safeway and I'm like,
I don't usually say that word. Is that? Yeah, it
is the same company. So anyway, but I'm at the
Northern California Vaughns and I'm picking up milk and I'm
at the express lane, and you know, we're the you know,
it's eight items, ten items something like that. Sure, and
there's a woman ahead of me who has about forty
(02:31):
seven items, I mean produce and stalking up and maybe couponing,
like she's got the full, the full panoply of grocery
day going on on that rotating or on that moving belt.
And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, what a
shit ass. And I'm like, that's the difference. And now
(02:52):
you know she's not an asshole, but she is a
shit ass. And I text my mom, I think I
just came across a shit ass.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And that's exactly right now. It makes sense, doesn't it?
When you guys drive, When you and your husband drive
somewhere road trip, whether it's I mean not to dinner
or something, but maybe an hour plus hour, he drives
most of the time, or do you or do you split?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, it depends if we want to get there quickly.
If we're going to drive to Vegas, I drive because
we'll get there in about three hours. If he drives,
we'll get there in about five and a half. I drive.
I do not pay attention to the signs on the road.
I drive very fast. So it depends like if I've
got something to do, I e. Work, finger quotes, work,
(03:43):
or you know, I want to read a book. Like
sometimes when I'm really into a book, I'll read in
the car and then I won't drive. But I do,
like you, I do like to be in control of
a situation, so I'm more likely to drive. But I
came across this article in The New York Times by
Mary McNamara. Great name, by the way, and I feel
(04:05):
like I've read a book by Mary macnamara. But anyway,
in the headline is this, If a seven hour road
trip up the Five doesn't ruin your marriage, nothing will.
And she talks about her husband. She and her husband
driving from La to Pedaluma and back. Now, this is
a drive I do routinely, my husband and I have
done routinely. Pedaluma is the town over from my mom's
(04:27):
and you're from Petaluma. And I'm thinking to myself, I
have never I mean, there are tests on marriages. A
road trip, to me isn't one of them. But maybe
that's just because by this point in the relationship I'm
familiar with all the things that bother my husband on
the road, whether it's traffic. Trucks are a big thing
(04:48):
for him. He hates trucks on the road. Thinks that
they should take some sort of weird truck road that
nobody knows about, magic truck road.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, like all these trucks.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Again, I'm like, well, how are the goods gonna get
I don't say this out of course not, but like,
how are the goods going to get to and fro
if we don't have trucks to deliver them? But I
don't say that, but you know, it seems like maybe
one of the early on things in a relationship that
could break it is a road trip.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's funny because so this In this article, Mary McNamara
describes that they're going to a wedding, and she said,
on the way to the wedding, I found myself hoping
that the couple we would be celebrating had spent enough
time in the car together. That a long term personal
relationship requires the acknowledgment and acceptance of certain things about
your partner. That to me is the nugget of the
(05:36):
entire story. She talks about getting in fights with her husband,
her husband's driving and asks her to get the directions
specifically to get out of LA, like, what's the quickest
way to get out of LA?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So you get on I five and just bombed. He
should know that. He should know that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And what he does is he asks her to open
Apple Maps or something like that and then argues with
what the computer tells him. And there's something about I
could care less. I mean, I love to get somewhere fast.
I hate stopping. You can't control that, and you just
got to sit there. You can try to zoom through
(06:14):
traffic and zip in and out of lanes, but that
just jacks up everything for everybody else. It's a question
of whether, in that moment or not a moment, but
a seven hour trip, whatever it is, does your spouse
slash partner slash road trip buddy have enough confidence in
you that you're going to be able to take control
of the situation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
There's also just realizing you're gonna hit those things that
you just mentioned. I was driving up here on Monday
and my husband says to him, and I was by myself,
and he says, Oh, looks like you're gonna be right
in time to hit the traffic in the east Bay,
and I thought to myself, Eh, all right, so I
hit the traffic in the East Bay, right, you know
(06:55):
what I mean? That was my attitude, like all right,
I've got and I haven't always had that attitude, dude,
but it's the attitude I have right now of just like, yeah,
all right, so I hit the traffic. What okay? And
I did? I hit the traffic in the East Bay.
You know how long? When you say that, you said
it too, you said traffic in the East Bay. Do
you know how long that traffic lasts from where you
(07:16):
hit like Oakland to where you would get off on
the five to eighty split to go to Petaluma or Nevado.
It's three point two miles, that's all. It's three point
two miles of traffic, and it's guaranteed and it sucks,
but it's three point two miles. It's not twenty two miles.
It really takes an extra nine minutes. That bumper to
bumper traffic for that stretch is nine minutes extra. Can
(07:39):
we handle that? Yes, we can see.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And then that's the other thing is if you there
are people who like to hack traffic and hack ways
or their their you know, navigation system in their car,
whatever it is, to try to absolutely minimize the amount
of time it takes to get somewhere, which is fine
and great, you know, it's a great extra size, but
you then put yourself in a position where you're leaving
(08:04):
way off when you want to. Right, you're either leaving
at four thirty in the morning or you're leaving at
eight thirty at night, in order to try to get
the absolute lowest volume of traffic wherever you happen to
be going. And it's just one of those things where
it's like, well, if you have the freedom to do that, great,
Not everybody does.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Not everybody I would.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Rather leave, Like when this podcast has dropped, I will
be making this drive from Nevado to la and I
will have left at five am, probably because I do
want to miss the traffic and I like to get
an early start. I like to leave early. If I'm
going to go somewhere that day, I'm going to get
an early start. It's just the way it's going to be.
(08:46):
But you know, when you think about hacking the system
or whatever, to me, that just adds extra stress on you, right,
I mean, maybe if you're super into it and it's
fun for you cool, but like for me to be like, oh, no,
I'll go this and I'll go left, I'll go round here,
and I'll take this and i'll take that. Oh they
don't know about this. That to me is just way
too much effort. I'll sit on the freeway in traffic
(09:07):
rather than play that game. At this point in my life,
maybe it's just been beaten out of me.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, But twenty five years ago, my dad was one
of the first people to get one of those cd
ROMs of the mapping program, right, and it was like
six cd ROMs, and it was supposedly every street and
road in the United States. And he would just sit
there and go through and look at maps like that
(09:31):
was his version of YouTube. I mean, he would just
he'd pick a city that he'd been to or a
city that he wanted to go to, and he would
just look at the streets. And that was back in
the day when they weren't augmented with satellite pictures or
satellite images of the rows. It was just a stick drawing,
very crude stick drunk. He was fascinated by that. So
(09:53):
cut to like fifteen years ago, he would print out
the map, the Google map with direction, et cetera, and
add his own footnotes to it, like I'm not going
to take that second right, I'm going to go down
a few more blocks and take the fourth right turn.
I feel like I can cut some you know, shave
some time off that way. That was a game to him,
like you were saying, if you're into that, and he
(10:15):
was totally into that. But this issue of splitting time
behind the wheel also came up just a couple of
weeks ago when my wife and I drove up also
to northern California, also bombing up I five, to my
sister's retimer party, and I made a comment, and I
will admit a couple of pops in I made a
(10:37):
comment to one of my nephews about how fast my
wife drives. I mean, I'll set cruise control on on
I five. I'll set it at eighty one, eighty two,
something like that. And that's only if it's wide open.
You know, everything's fine. I'm totally comfortable, we're in a groove.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Whatever. She'll cruise.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
She doesn't use cruise con ll very often, but if
she does, she'll set it at like eighty six or
eighty seven. And even then she doesn't stay at eighty
six or eighty seven for a long time. She'll come
back down to seventy seven, depending on what's going on
in traffic. But I made a comment about you have
no idea how fast your aunt drives, and her head
snapped around. I thought she was going to hit me,
(11:21):
And she said, well, you didn't say anything when you
were in the car, And I thought, and I said
to her out loud, oh yeah, that'd be a good
idea for me to for me to smack talk you're
driving while we're doing close to ninety miles an hour
on the freeway, for me to start chirping at you, like, hey.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
You go a little too fast, don't you think this?
Come on, what are you doing? You're trying to break
the sound barrier or something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I can't fathom the idea of criticizing someone while they're driving.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's good, But did you do what my husband does?
Because I like your wife drive faster than he does.
So because you two, you, you and my both rule followers,
and I don't, and neither does your wife. And what
my husband will do is if I'm driving eighty seven
miles per hour, which, of course, why wouldn't you on
(12:11):
the five where there's nothing there and there's no cars,
he will brace himself like he is taking off for
a rocket launch. He will he does a thing that
like your parents would do when they were teaching you
how to drive, where they would like step on the
emergency brake or step on the brake like on their side,
(12:33):
like throw.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
His hands up on the dashboard, Like he'll put his hands.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Up like on the handle of the truck, like bracing himself.
But that used to bother me, but it does not
bother me at all anymore. It's just the way we drive.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, see that's and that's the other thing I think
that Mary McNamara in this article kind of loses side
of is like, hey.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
You signed up for this, you know, you know this
is going to be an issue.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Got in the car.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, you could have flyed, flying fly.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, you could have fled.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
You could have fled.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You could have flown to the Bay Area, take a
flight out of Burbank and be there in forty minutes.
Like you you've made a decision that you're going to
drive instead of fly. So this is the kind of
thing that you're gonna have to deal with. And it's
a funny article. It's a it's a funny thing that
to you know, to put in print that you and
your husband have vastly different driving.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Practices. Perhaps, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's not the headline of this this will ruin your marriage?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Like what? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And like I said, I think the point of it
is you should these are there are things that you
should do as a couple before you decide that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
This is the way you want to spend the rest
of it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Did your wife try to leave you though after you
you dimed her off about her driving?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, No, she didn't. She just continued to drive that way.
But I will say this, my it's funny that you
mentioned the whole like reacting to things your husband does
when you're driving. My mother in law used to do that. Well,
it probably still does. I've just never driven with her
in the front seat with me, but I've seen it
with my wife driving and my mother in law in
(14:13):
the front seat next to her, where she will kick
her foot through the floorboard to hit the brake. Yeah
for nothing. I mean, I'm sitting in the back seat,
I can see everything that's going on and it did
not warrant a kick.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's a special mother daughter bond. You don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
About gosh and I. It's one of those things where
my wife would very patiently just ignore it, and then
when it happens the fourteenth time on a six mile drive,
she's like, you not, could you just like just allow
maybe sit in the back seat or turn your head
so you're not looking at what's going on.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I sit on top of the car and we'll just
strap you down, like vacation.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, or Jim was it James Comey's some other.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh the dog, the dog, Mitt Romney's dog.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Mitt Romney. Thank you? So anyway, just drive safe. I
guess right, yeah, is it over? It could be? Do
you want it to be?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I don't know. I don't have a clock.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It's it's almost fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh that's about right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
All right, So listen.
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