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April 19, 2025 17 mins
Ever blank on someone’s name at work? You’re not alone. Gary and Shannon dive into the cringe-worthy world of forgotten names, from awkward run-ins to clever tricks for faking it till you remember. Shannon gets real about feeling a bit like a failure (and a little jealous) after a recent event—especially when Ryan Seacrest ghosted the room like a pro. They swap stories, share name-saving hacks, and laugh through the struggle of remembering who’s who in the fast-paced world of radio.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, so here we are on yet another weekend
fix for the Gary and Shannon Show, and this is
the added version of the regular hijinks that we can't
get into during the.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Week This reminds me sitting in this little room with
no windows.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And it's different. It's a different studio than we do
the regular show.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It reminds me of when the show had not yet
begun and they didn't know what that show was going
to be. It was from one to three, and they
did not know what that was going to be. Now,
there was another show on the air at the time,
so everything was very secret, very hush hush. Should I
even be telling this story.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Anyway, It's short, that's what happens.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
And so there were different ideas percolating of what the
show would be, and our boss had us go into
one of these little secret rooms and just talk to
each other and record it and just to see what
it would sound like us talking to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
And then ten years later, here we are in a
little room doing the same exact thing.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Again, it's kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I okay, So I wanted to bring this up because
I don't know how different people handle this. You and
I think have you're better at this than I am.
This potential situation, and there's two different versions of it.
Earlier this week, we had a meeting, and we have
both worked with Woody from The Woody Show for years.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
When you worked with you use that term very loosely.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
We work in the same building, work in the same building,
and have been at the same events and have been
the same meetings and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I don't remember ever seeing him at an event or
a meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Really.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, Oh, I funny. And he had no idea who
I was. By the way, anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean earlier this week. Sorry for timeline.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Purpose, no clue he said.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
In fact, he said to me, I feel like we've
we've met each other years ago, but it was so
long ago that it's awkward for me to introduce myself
and I shake hands, and he said, you came in
to see Gina grad a few months ago, it goes,
and I had no idea who you were, right, And I.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Thought, perfect that it's not awkward. Yeah, exactly, well, I
know I have.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Again, I've not met Woody, I've never spoken to him,
but we talk about their show, they talk about our show.
We've we've you know, we there's a lot of common,
uh crossover in terms of the people that work there
that used to work with us and vice versa. Anyway,
it was an awkward moment because I felt like I
should have long ago introduced myself to him. We lived

(02:45):
near each other, I mean like we have homes next
to each other. I see him walking around our neighborhoods
not but it's not my thing, and it's not and
I'm not necessarily embarrassed about it. But it's just one
of those It's one of those relationship things that I
think people deal with, which is specifically I mean, that's
one version of it. The other one is you work

(03:05):
in a place or maybe your commute doctor's office, however
you do this, and you see people at that place
every day or however often you're.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
There, but you don't know their names, and you should
know their names. You know that.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
This is half of my year for the past seven years.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, how I started working for the Chargers, met everybody
in one day, wasn't paying attention because I was so
overwhelmed with this new job and how exciting it was
and how cool, and didn't pay attention for a long time,
like three seasons. And then when I started paying attention,
when I was brought down to earth, I didn't know
who anybody was. And to this day, on the sideline,

(03:48):
it's Hi, nice to see you, How are you? How
are the kids? I have no idea what anybody's name is.
I don't know if they know mine. But they all
work together on the regular, this this team at the facility,
what have you, So they see each other every day.
I'm like the one Sunday and every Sunday person, so
they probably don't know my name either, but there's so

(04:10):
many of them.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I'm just I am screwed.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So here's the situation that I've run into that brings
up a weird feeling in my heart. Where they walk
up and they say, Hey, it's me. I'm Keana. Remember
we met, and I go, of course, I know who
you are. I never had any idea what that person's
name was. I mean, I know who producer Keany is,
so it's different. But I mean they they take it
upon themselves to reintroduce themselves to you because they don't

(04:34):
have the expectation that you remember their name, and then
you feel a little bit slided, like, well, of course
I would remember your name, even though you don't actually
remember my.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Usband will say things like you just don't pay attention.
It's not that you forgot well, you just don't pay attention.
And it's true, but it's not coming from a nefarious place.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
It's not hitting you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
About myself the entire time.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's because I'm overwhelmed or I've got things going on
in my head and I'm just not focused.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well that yours is probably the best example of it,
because you are excited about so you're in a new place,
this is new people.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
You. Here's the other part about it.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You don't know how long you're going to be there, right,
I mean, and this is one of those situations where
you don't know how often you're going to see Woody
again or whatever. So so you don't put the brain
gasoline on the name to make sure that it imprints
in your in your head. So I was, I was
thinking about this and I actually looked it up and
it's a very funny. There's a couple different tips on

(05:30):
ways to avoid that problem. And I've done this before too.
How do you spell your last name? That's what I'll say,
is how do you spell your last name? To somebody
that I should know their last name, or salespeople that
we deal with, like I just want to send the
email to the right place.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
How do you spell your last name?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And they go, it's the if they say something like
it's the common spelling, I'm screwed. I'm back to I'm
back to zero, like I got, I got, still got nothing.
And I will say, yeah, but I mean, how you
spell it? Or try to do something funny so that
I can type it in the word at least in
our email program will auto fill the rest of the name,
And I go, oh, of course it's you, Jim. I

(06:11):
knew Jim Jim and I go way back and all
that sort of stuff. One guy says, I've been in
this situation before. This is off of a website I
found asking the question of what do you do when
you've known someone for a year and you still don't
know their name. So somebody says I've been in the situation,
or sir, yeah, you stop being.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Such an asshole. To people.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, that's the thing. I think part of it with
you and oh here it comes. Well, just going back
to your original thought of not talking to people, I e. Woody,
I think part of you ascribes to the why open
your mouth and confirm their belief that you're an idiot? Right,

(06:56):
which I understand. I wish I had that. I wish
I had that. I wish I could shut up because
I totally believe in that.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
But that's my stumbling block. But that's your like greased slide.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I can't stop myself and you stop yourself probably more
than you should, or you I mean, because you're not
an idiot, right, but well, I mean all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
But I think that's part of the thing.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Is like you're you remain pretty quiet, and that can
come off although you're trying not to error, it can
come across as you thinking you're better or you're just
a dick.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, one of the responses is, uh, hand someone if
you depending on the context obvious, you wouldn't just do
this to a stranger, but you hand someone on your
phone and go, hey, put your contact information or put
your number in or something like that, which is I mean,
that'd be a stretch.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's like handing over your newborn baby. Here, take my
baby and play with it.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
The other one would be, if resort to plan, b
ask them to add you on some social media site
that you both of.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You that's really needy, that's really needy, and then way
together notice Instagram.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Oh I would rather die.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I would rather jump off this building and tell somebody
to add me on social media.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
There's another guy who responded to this question says, I'm
a prosecutor. I appear in court sometimes several times a week,
always the same courthouse, limited number of clerks, limited number
of bailiffs at sheriffs there, and every day the court
starts with me saying good morning, your honor Jeremy for
the Crown. Is it obviously a British guy, you know,
who doesn't introduce themselves, the clerks and the sheriffs, right,

(08:32):
And he's like, I should know these people, I work
with them everything.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Probably for Jeremy because probably his first couple of times
in that courtroom he was overwhelmed.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
He had a bunch of things on his mind.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
And now it's too late for Jeremy to find out
what the bailiff or the clerk's name is, even though
Jeremy should bring donuts once.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
A week, even though those people are probably the ones
that would help him get out of a jam.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
That's all he needs is the clerk in the courtroom.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, any other tips the other one. The kind of
relationship this is from an anonymous poster. The kind of
relationship where you do not know the other person's name
is the best kind of relationship because with the names,
you then start making decisions about them, about their religion,
about their friends, about their ancestry, that sort of thing.
But without names, there's no expectation, no need of any

(09:22):
extra effort to try to maintain that relationship level.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't meet someone and go, Dave, he's Christian, although
that checks out right. Hey, Suths, here's the other thing.
I don't think people care that you don't know their names.
Like I don't think people care that I don't know
their names. They probably don't know my name.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Wood He didn't know my name.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
The only reason I know his name is because it's
The Woody Show. And I know Menace because who else's
named menas right?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Like that is also true.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
I don't know anybody else who works on that show.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Other than Gina because she worked with us for so long.
You know Morgan Morgan as well. But I mean, I
have no idea of other people.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You've never seen Sea Bass walking around.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't know Sea Bass is. I mean, also a
catchy name, but no no idea. I mean, I see
everybody in the in the elevator. We see everybody in
the elevators.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
But that's also one of those things where when I
was here, when I was doing the morning show, and
I'd be here at whatever, god awful three forty four
in the morning, something like that, and you'd be in
the elevator. It's a common trauma, like you are sharing this.
I'm up at the butt crack of dawn and I'm
sharing the elevator with somebody and we're both barely awake.

(10:38):
And there were many times, and I mean, shouldn't work
here anymore, but there were many times when I'd be
in the elevator with somebody who's working on one of
the FM shows and it just became like, Hey, good morning,
how's it going great? I hope you have a great day.
I mean, there's not a lot of time elevator. It's
the middle of the night, but it was that was it,
And for four or five years, once twice a week,

(10:59):
we'd see each other in the elevator and I had
no idea who she was.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I was just because I was.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Afraid to be like, hey, I see you here every
day every Tuesday, we happen to be in the same place,
which show do you work like? And then and then
put the two together so that you could at least
then the greeting would become, oh, hey, Shanna, good morning.
How's it going, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Right? Right?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But so there's some ideas.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
This is actually written by AI, but the suggestions we're
taking interpersonal suggestions from artificial intelligence.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's kind of like Isabelle, who works here.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I've known Isabelle for example, money, I should be at
Isabelle's kids wedding. Like we've spent more time together collectively,
like seeing each other in the past twenty years than
probably anybody else except for you. Yet we have this
just like good morning relationship, which is fine. But I
feel like I should know. I feel like there maybe

(11:53):
some some domain I should know more. I feel like
we should be friends or something like I feel like
I've worked with her even though we don't do the
same things. We've worked in the same building for so long, so.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
The suggestions are be honest. Just admit, hey, look, I'm
super embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
We've seen each other every day for the last seven years.
I don't know your name. Introduce yourself. You can introduce
yourself first. Like I said earlier, someone is polite enough
to go, hey, it's my name is Gary.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Do I hate that word? There needs to be a
new word.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
What kind of idiot hands some on their phone like
put your information in the ad me on socials you.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
One of them says, use the contextual approach. If you're
in a group setting, you ask someone else to introduce them,
refer to them casually. You do that with your husband.
I do that with my wife. Oh my gosh, that's
what's that guy's name? And you say, please, you introduced first.
So that if I'm introducing you to Keana, for example,
in a party, and you don't know her name, but

(12:48):
you should, I'll say something like, oh, hey, Keana, this
is my wife.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
But here's my point. Keana doesn't care that we don't
know her name.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
No, no, in this she would she would totally care.
She totally does she would totally.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm telling you she does not avoid awkwardness.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
That's impossible.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
If it feels too awkward, focus on the relationship and
the interactions rather than the name itself.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Can I tell you something? Can I share something with you?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, I'm going to put my contact in for it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I can give me my baby back. I felt two
things after our work event. I felt two things that
I don't like to feel. I felt failure and I
felt jealousy.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't understand either one of those things. Why did
you feel failure?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, you know, I pride myself on getting out of
things right quickly.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, you had set a you'd set a hard time
limit as to what I wanted that door closing behind you.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't like failing at things, and I don't like
being jealous of people. And I found myself a failure
and jealous of Ryan Seacrest because he got out of
that door about four seconds before I did. After that
event ended, Ryan got out right before I got out,

(14:04):
and immediately I felt like a failure and then jealous
of Ryan Seacrest, things I've never felt.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, Ryan also had a car service.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't care. That means nothing to me. He was
out the security guy. I was at the door. Granted,
I went to an exit that I thought was an
exit and then was turned away because it was not
an exit.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Did say exit? It did? And then I got so I.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Had to go to the other exit, and then Ryan's
there taking pictures and he's able to get out the
door before I am, and I wanted to be the
first out of that room.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
That was funny the moment you went out the basically
the back door, because it said exit, you were going
to try to make your your your exit rather unobtrusive.
You spun around and came back, and the look on
your face when you realized that was not an exit,
You're like that not so then you're gonna have to
cross all the way across the room and follow Ryan

(14:58):
Seacrest out the front door.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
I know if I told you.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
This, But Ellen, we were sitting with Siciny and Ellen
k and Ellen says, so did you guys do your
show and then come right here? And I said we did.
She goes, you both look so excited to be here.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I was like, oh my god, we're awful.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
We need some sort of like training, We need some
sort of face boot camp. The other thing was that,
I mean looked so excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
The other people that were there, I mean they was
a big Boy in not to name drop. Big Boy
and Valentine were there, and Ellen was there, and Ryan
Seacrest was there with Sisany Sisiny and Tanya and Handle
was there. They all had time to go home refresh
and then come back for a meeting.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
But wouldn't that be awful? I was kind of glad
it was just a continuation of our day. Like if
we had to go home and then go back for that, oh, people.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Would have ended. I would have ended lives probably.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
If you have any suggestions on what you would do
if you knew so many it was super lovely. You
knew someone for a year and you didn't know their name,
what do you just you just sit on it.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
You just take the loss and never to that person again.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Or remember you do it. Keana does not care.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Keana does care?

Speaker 4 (16:05):
I think not.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
She would be so upset if you didn't actually know
her name.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
She would not Okay, No, I mean like in a party,
like if we met Kian, like she was on our
producer and we didn't know and we like double backed
and didn't know her name.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
She wouldn't care.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Oh well, then let me put it this way.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I think I think the better version of it is
you say to me, I should know her name.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I would never say, and then I say, because that's
insaneting that like, well, whatever, I need a coffee.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And then I say to you hey, or I say
to Keana, hey, this is my wife, and then Keana'
is like, oh, I'm Kiana, and then we both.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Go, that's.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Like that, And she wouldn't say that.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I'm not talking about this one.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm talking about h Kana, not just that, not that one,
uh Kiana.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
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Speaker 4 (17:05):
Forget what it was anyway that could have been off theear.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, we'll just we'll tag the podcast with it. Tune
in next week when Shannon tells us what she remembered
that she was gonna say, you've been listening to the
Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live
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