September 8, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Elmer.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is the first time we're going to start the
show with a talkback, so you got to.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen by Shannon.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I know I'm calling really early, you're not even on
the area yet. It's a little bit after nine o'clock.
But if you could please talk because we have a
Charger fan in house and we want to hear about
how it was in Brazil and what a great win
for them, and also because I'm the Niner fan, what
a great win it was from the Niners yesterday, and
so Gary, please let Shannon talk football today, please, So
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Chargers and Niners.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, you're right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I got good news and bad news. Yes, the Chargers won, Yes,
the forty nine Ers one. Shannon's out today. Shann's out
all week. She's actually doing something very good. She's helping
her mom or mom's going through surgery, so she's going
to be out all week.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But we have a.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Rolling cast of characters to help us through the day,
and today.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We get to welcome in. I don't even know which
title to use.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So I'm just gonna say Andrew grul Chef, Andrew Gruhle.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You see him all over the place nowadays.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You see him on Fox News a lot, filling in
doing interviews and things like that, founder of American Gravy.
Where else do you want to go? Twitter? Sensation or
ex hoergon?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Yeah, I know you could have gotten me canceled there,
you know, father of four, that's really what takes out
most of my time. That's good, that's a good way
to do it. And your kids are how old? Four,
six ten and fourteen?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Man? I said this off there. That's a loud house.
It is, that's a loud house.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, and then typically the cliche, right, you know, I'm
the fifth kid. My wife knows that I'm the one
who actually eggs them on. It'll be eleven thirty at
night and I'm just getting them riled up.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But you are.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You came to notoriety because of cooking, because of life
in the restaurant business.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Was that something you always wanted to do? It? Was
it a life that you dreamed of? Not in the
least bit.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I actually was horrible at cooking and mostly grew up
on processed food, microwave food Fast Food Nation if they will.
So maybe it was out of survival, but I ended
up I went to college, small liberal arts college for
something totally separate and just ended up spending all my
time working in restaurants and in kitchens and had that
aha moment of wait a minute, maybe this is what
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I should be doing, and thus the journey began. I
think it's imperative there. I think there are certain jobs
that everybody should have at some point in their life,
and working in a restaurant is one of those jobs.
I think everybody has to have that experience. Yeah, and
I agree, And that was kind of how I got in.
And I love the front of the house. I love
the back of the house. I love the I call
it like the pirate ship. Right, You're on a pirate
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ship and a bunch of crazy personalities. But when people
ask me now, they say, you know, oh, my son
is really interested in cooking shit, he go to culinary school,
et cetera. I say, no, go to school, either get
a law degree, get into Vogue Tech, or become a psychologist.
The cooking stuff's easy, right, because ninety five percent of
what I do is, you know, I deal with the
fact that Tom he broke up with Sally and he
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can't show up for his busting shift, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Or the refrigerator's broken or.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I'm getting suited, or he broke the refrigerator because he
was mad because of the breakup or something like that. Yeah,
the things that happened in Walkins, I mean, that's a
whole nother show you've done. You've done reality TV cooking,
been a judge on shows like that, And there's there's
something about watching those types of shows where I, as
an absolute non cook, think I could.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I could probably do some of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But there's such a time element, there's such a time
crunch on some of those things that I would be terrified.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Is it? Is it really?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I mean it's a reality show, that's what they call it,
but it's not reality, right, I mean there's yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And I guess I'm out of contract so I can
mention it. Yeah, some of them.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They're all different, right, So, like I judged Chopped and
Chopped Junior, And actually that was my claim to fame
because my Chop Junior episode was with Megan Markle like
like a week before she got together with you know, Royalty.
But so we did a food truck show too, and
that one was you know, they would they would cook
all the food at like eight or nine in the
morning and we would taste it on the panel at
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like six pm.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh, it had just kind of sat and.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
You know, then they they shoot it up with a
little parsley in an orange peel. So that one, you know,
is a little bit different, little more production. But those
the chopped ones, you know, those that's quick, right, thirty minutes,
especially when you do chop junior.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You got the kids, kids there and they're freaking out.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yeah, they handle it actually better than a lot of
my thirty or forty year old kitchen guys.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Really yeah, why what what about kids?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I mean they just I think I don't think kids
overthink things the way adults do. Right, So it's the
intellectual level, because like cooking is really just visceral, it's
just innate. So the kids get in there and they're
competitive and you know, they're just throwing things around.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And then you met your wife. You guys have been
married for twelve twelve.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Years, twelve thirteen years, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, how did that all come about? We met on Instagram?
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It kind of is is it really? It? Kind of?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Is we Actually it was before DM, so I wrote
our message, shoot me an email. I was very formal, right,
and then we went and had our first date and
then six six weeks later we were married.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Six weeks later, six weeks Yeah, did she grow up
in the same area?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I mean, did you just where is she from? She's
from Huntington Beach. Yes, She's from Huntington Beach, California. I'm
from Jersey. I'm a Jersey boy. Yeah, yeah, I'm a
Jersey boy. But I was out here temporarily to do
run a sustainable seafood program with the Aquarium of the Pacific,
And it was before and then I ultimately turned that
into my first restaurant concept. And we met in the
very beginning of those stages. And you know what it is.
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It's like when you meet somebody and you say, you know,
I got.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
To lock this down.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
I just got this has got to happen here, So
move moved quickly.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We'll talk through the course of the show a lot
more about the individual restaurants, different food stuff that you've done,
cooking questions, things like that, because I'm fascinated by it.
I mean, my wife has been watching videos of you
and your wife and cooking and all. I mean, it's
been it's been great. But one of the other things
about this is that in the last couple of years
you have either been thrust into or been attracted to,
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depending on how you look at it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't want to say politics, that comes with a
negative connotation to.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It, but but a.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Community activism maybe something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I mean, and it's not like I'm out there protesting capitalism.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's more about stitching into the community. You know.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Representative government policy rightly, I thoroughly enjoyed policy. I actually
think if you look at all political policy, social and political,
that you can put it through the lens of food.
Food is the great unifier, right because if you think
about it restaurants, you get everything, as I mentioned, from
from social philosophy to economics to trade, international trade. Right Like,
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there's a there's a lot to it, and it's ordinary
and it's approachable. So so overlaying that prism into politics,
somehow I ended up on city council in many other.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Areas earlier this year. You are now on the Huntington
Beach City Council.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Correct, all right, all right, so we got all all
of that base stuff out of the way.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Again, more questions.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Throughout the course of the show, we are going to
talk about stuff that happens to be going on outside
of our immediate world, including the latest when it comes
to Russia and Ukraine. There's a huge article in the
Washington Post about how Gavin Newsom has seized the attention
of Donald Trump. He's been trying to do this for
a couple of years and apparently finally has done that.
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So we'll talk about that kind of the reaction, and
then a bunch of a bunch of other stuff that's
going on.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So thanks, first of all, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
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You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (07:48):
A bunch of stories that we are following today and
we'll talk more about them as we get through the day.
The Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court, among other
things to allow the government to withhold for billion dollars
of spending on foreign aid that had been approved by Congress.
Palestinian attackers opened fire on people at a bus stop
during the morning rush hour in Jerusalem today.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Six people were killed.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
An Israeli soldier and civilians who were at the scene
pulled out their own guns and shot the shooters. Killed
the two attackers so later a third person was arrested
in connection with that shooting, and then way out in
the middle of the ocean, Hurricane Kiko has weakened slightly,
but I still had it toward Hawaii could cause some
life threatening surf and rip current conditions later this week.
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Kiko expected to become a tropical storm, downgraded to a
tropical storm tonight, probably passing by the main Hawaiian islands
tomorrow and Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shannon's out today. Chef Andrew Gruhl has joined us.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
One of the big headlines from overseas was Russia attacked
Ukraine again with and it seems like we've said this
multiple times over the last several weeks, the largest drone
assault of the war, and in this case, hundreds and
hundreds of drones more than eight hundred Iranian designed Shahed
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exploding drones and decoys around the country. Before that attack,
the largest attack was back in the beginning of July.
Russia had launched seven hundred and twenty eight drones. They
also fired thirteen crews in ballistic missiles in this latest volley.
According to the Ukrainian Air Force, nine of the missiles
about sixty of the drones evaded air defenses and made
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an impact. Now that just on the numbers there, that's
one thing to point out. Eight hundred drones are launched
by Russia, sixty of them make it in and cause
damage and death. So it's they're flooding the zone with
these with these drones. And we've seen that before because
they're so cheap to make. They're so I don't know
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who's making them.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
All. We know they're Iranian designed, but I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They're the ones that are actually putting this thing into
putting these things into the air. Soident Passet, he's increasingly
frustrated with what Putin has done, or probably more importantly,
has not done when it comes to any.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sort of a piece deal.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So get they're still working on it. I'm over here mumbling.
So the numbers, the exact numbers. I looked at eight
hundred and five drones, seven hundred and fifty one shot down.
That's unbelievable. But that's like that's spam warfare right there. Yeah,
using drones, uh, and the there. You know, I think
that Trump is gonna probably end up shooting his mouth off,
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and just he keeps trying to give him a chance.
And then they're throwing eight hundred and five drones over
the Ukraine. I can't imagine what it's like, this psychological
warfare of just having eight.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Hundred drones flying over you. I mean, obviously they're shooting
them down, but you know, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, and if you're if you're Ukrainian and you're living
in Kiev and you go to work, I mean they're
still they still have daily life, and then sun goes down.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You can't. It's not like you can rest.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I mean, that's that That's one of the horrors, the
psychological horrors of war is that you can't. You'd never
know when it's coming again. It's one of those frustrating
things as an outside observer because we are I mean
obviously geographically we're outside, but also because we don't necessarily
have boots on the ground or you know, military men
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and women in harm's way right now.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But how does this thing continue?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I mean, you made your point that Trump has been
allowing Putin time and space to make a decision to
end this, and he has it. And the big comment
yesterday from President Trump was that he's gonna He's talking
about a second phase of sanctions on Russia, and Russia
just double birds and says, you guys, do what you want.
We're not going anywhere. We're not changing our policy on this, especially.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
When on the global stage you have you know, the
president of India, and you've got g from China, and
then you've got you know, Iran and Russia creating this
kind of weird and interesting alliance. You know, some of
it create and some of it more figurative. So it's
not working in our favors. So the question is is
that do we just say, look, you guys, figure it out.
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You're done, right, which is what a lot of Trump's
supporters are suggesting, versus Trump just closing the door on
Putin and introducing sanctions that are gonna, you.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Know, sanctions like he's never seen before, biggest ones biggest
ones ever.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, the biggest ones ever.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And then you've got our European allies that are terrified
about what would happen if we don't we, as the Americans,
don't stand up and instigate some sort of movement towards peace.
I mean, the summit between Putin and Trump in Alaska,
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it all looked like progress. It all looked like there
was something that was going to come out of it.
It wasn't perfect, but it was one of those glimmers
of hope. And now Zelensky came out today and suggested
that Trump just gave Putin everything he wanted, which was
more time to continue the destruction of Ukraine, to wear
down Ukrainian defenses and basically when the pr war of listen,
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we can't give up on the fight that we have.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
This is, you know, Russian territory.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
It's always been Russian, all of that argument, and we're
just and he knows Putin that is, we're just gonna
get fatigued by this. You know, we don't have because
we don't have the you know, the infrastructure, the investment
in Ukraine that other places do.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He knows that people are gonna get tired of it.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, and I think that he also from the American
perspective and US citizens, it's like, Okay, what's the off ramp?
Right Like, we're in, We're out, We're not in, We're out,
we're doubling down, We're totally out.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We're Matt at Zelinsky right.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Like, the emotional journey that Americans have gone on over
the past couple of years has been very interesting, and
now we're at a point two years later where we
have not clearly defined what the off ramp is, right Like,
what are we suggesting and pushing in Ultimately, what is
the way in which all of this is going to
either go away or at least temper down to, you know,
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a level in which there's not eight hundred drone attacks
every single day.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, it's frustrating. I don't know what today.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
President Trump spoke this morning, and I believe the Bible
Museum in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
This did not come up.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
They were talking more about going into Chicago and militarizing
some of the law enforcement there.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So, but this issue is not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Russia has plenty of drones obviously that they'll continue to
lob into Key.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But it is something that we'll watch.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The other issue is our governor Gavin Newsom has grabbed
attention in the last couple of weeks for a couple
of different reasons, and he's finally gotten the attention of
President Trump his best move. Trump's best move might be
to simply ignore Gavin Newsom, but I don't think he can.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I agree with that one thousand percent.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Look, Newsom's out there with his tweets and with his
PR team trying begging it. It's like the ex lover
who just wants to get in your face so that
you start to pay attention to them. If Trump just
completely ignored Newsome all together and pretended like he was nothing,
then I think that would make Gavin so angry that
he would go so far and above what he's been
doing today to make himself look even more crazy that
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it would at least be humorous.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And then you go, why are you why are you yelling? Yeah,
that kind of thing. All right, we'll talk about that
when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Hey.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Gary, Hey, it's nice to see that you got chef
Andrew Gruel to fill in for Shannon yes, I seen
him on gut Field a few times, and he's a
pretty cool dude.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, so welcome to being a pretty cool dude. Who
I got worried there for a second. Are you a
sports fan?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Oh my god, yeah, I thought we see clearly, I'm
a newbie here. I'm a sports fan. Yeah, big baseball fan.
I go by the season, though I can't overlap sports
a little bit towards the end. But I totally agree
with you. It's like when I'm in baseball mode. I'm
in baseball mode. Then you know, I'll kind of move
into football, but you know, a little bit of tennis
here and there.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I like to watch synchronized swimming. Now you're going too far.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So are you a Dodger fan? I mean you're back
You're from back East. Hey, listen, I'm a Giants fan,
so I get the heat all the time. So you know,
whatever you say is going to be better than being
a Giants I'm still in my fresh first hour here,
so I'll play at diplomatic and say I'm a baseball fan.
I mean, I'm down in Orange County, so we go
to a lot of Angels games. I mean I grew
up in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
My family's from the Bronx, so obviously, you know, Yankees
blow through my blood. Sorry about that, everybody, but I
can appreciate baseball all around. Hey, look, you know we
had Don matting Lee out here, so yeah, you know
we we trade and.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Some good crossover, Yeah, good crossover. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And that World Series last year wasst have been a
lot of fun. Oh my gosh. Yes, I'm still thinking
about that one. You know, about eight years ago, I
was six foot nine and then after all these World
Series blows, you know, I'm down.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
To about five eight now.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Well, I'm good. I'm glad. The Dodgers did win yesterday,
by the way, they won, five to two. They were
playing in Baltimore. They'll host the Rockies tonight. Rookies that
are awful, I mean, historically bad team this year unfortunately
for them. Angels beat the As yesterday forty three, and
they'll host the Twins tonight tonight. Also Monday Night football,
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first week of the season, Vikings Bears.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I don't pay that close attention to football until World
Series Game seven is over, and then by then you're
in week eight of the football season. You kind of
know who's you know, who's winning, who's losing, who to
root for, who not to.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, and if there's like a popular culture lifestyle spin
to it, like Belichick coming on the field for UNC,
you know, maybe I'll pay attention to some of this
stuff or see what's going on just so I know
what the outcome is and follow along with that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's like US Weekly of Sports. But otherwise I agree.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, that's what it comes down to, is we start
to peak in one season, it's hard to jump into
the other.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, speaking of baseball, this guy was once a left
handed pitcher or was he for the University of Santa Clara.
Gavin Newsom, did you know that? You know he played,
He he was part of the team. It's hard to
pin down whether or not anybody that played for the
University of Santa Clara actually claims him as a teammate.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It's the baseball story.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
There's a basketball story too that Senator Tony Strickland's talked about.
And you know, Tony was played against him, said we
never saw him out there. There's all these different stories.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, one of the things that Gavin Newsom has been
trying to do for a long time is get on
national radar and to get the attention of President Trump
because he believes that if he plays the game very
publicly that he will be able to out Trump Trump,
that'll be able to take him down in social media,
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you know, back and forth and all that. And he's
getting the attention now that he's been trying to get
for years. I don't know exactly what flipped the switch.
One of the things that he's done is he's clearly
hired some new, younger PR people to take over his
Twitter account and imitate the style, the substance of Trump
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truth social posts, all the caps thank you for attention
to this matter, like all of the goofy, all this
weird idio syncratic things that Trump does.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Gavin Newsom's now doing on his social media.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I think that he thinks the cliche all press is
good press is good in his camp, right, So they're
doing these things and they're getting a ton of attention
because it's so absurd.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But I actually don't know. I no longer believe in.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
That dogma that all press is good press, because in
this case it's bad press. It's embarrassing for them. They're
getting the attention because of the absurdity of it. Trump
is one of a kind. Like him or hate him,
It's one of a kind. He's got that style. When
you try and then replicate that, you're really diluting it
into a parody. And the parody is the person who's
trying to dilute it, not Trump himself. So he's making
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a fool of himself. But the crazy thing is is
that Newsom is so oblivious and lives inside of his
bubble that he doesn't realize that he's the fool in
this story, and that's why people are giving him the attention.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I loved your analogy of it being sort of an
ex lover that's, you know, grabbing for attention, reaching out
to you on social media, and you your best option
is to ignore them. They try more outlandish and more
outlandish things, and then finally, you know, they're standing in
the Burbank Nature Park and they're lighting themselves on fire,
and you go, hey, whoa, where where did this come from?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Like relax, why are you shouting?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
And the crazy thing is that then there would be
no water to put the personality right, just the very
little social concern for them after they've you know, proven
themselves to be crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
This this fight I as entertaining as it is, I
think to watch. I thought that if I was to
give a letter grade to the people that were doing
the social media for Gavenusom, I'd give them a B plus.
Like I thought they I thought it was effective. They
were getting the publicity that they were looking for. But
in terms of me as a Californian asking the governor,
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how does this make my state any better?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You're not doing anything to improve the quality of life,
the infrastructure, the you know, people fighting for minimum wag.
You're not improving anybody's life by doing this thing on
social media.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
And I think that that's the point, though, is that
he looks at it as a win win. So on
the one hand, if he gets attention, you know, kind
of in popular culture, well then he's gaining perhaps some
points he thinks he is. And on the other hand,
he can also use all of this noise to distract
from the reality that you just defined, and that's the
goal for him as well. But there's a certain point
at which everybody wakes up and they're like, wait a minute, here,
we got you know, Prop fifty coming down the pipeline.
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You can't fund Prop thirty six, which we all voted for,
but yet you're putting two hundred fifty million dollars into
Prop fifty You know, obviously he's on his like tenth
iteration of his homelessness plan, which is just another failure.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And we could go on and on. The list could
go on.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
So I think there's an expiration date on what he's doing,
and I want to know what the next pivot's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We shall see. We'll talk a little bit more about
the jerrymandering plan. By the way, coming up next hour,
chef Andrew Gruhl has joined us. Shannon's out this week.
We'll come back and talk about this other very high
profile story that made its way around social media this week,
that Ukrainian immigrant who is stabbed to death on a
train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
World famous, I would say world famous. Chef Andrew Gruel
has joined us for the show today.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Again.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Thanks for battling traffic to come in. It's not the
easiest place to find. Oh, it's a pleasure. I love
the traffic coming up. I'm sure. I'm sure you do.
One of the stories that grabbed headlines over the weekend,
I grabbed the attention to the president. As a matter
of fact, was this video that made the rounds. It
shows a twenty three year old woman getting stabbed to
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death on a light rail train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Happened just before ten o'clock at night August twenty second.
A caller called and said that this woman had been
stabbed in the throat. The victim, woman named Ernya Zarutska,
left Ukraine with her mother three years ago, mother, sister,
and brother to escape the war with Russia. In her obituary,
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said that she quickly embraced her new life in the
United States. The suspect in this case, thirty four year
old to Carlos Brown, taken to a hospital for treatment
of a laceration, but most importantly charged with first degree murder.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So here's the question. Was that an earthquake or was
that a truck going by? Probably an earthquake. We think
it's eurthquake. Okay, well we'll check that here in a
sick Did you feel it? Oh? I felt that?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Good? I just assumed it was my excitement. Shake it
in your chair already.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Now, this guy, unfortunately, we've seen these cases so many
times before. He's not let me just say, he didn't
have a clean criminal record, you know, one of those
cases where the police go, gosh, he's never shown up
on our radar before. That's not who this is. This
guy's been around a lot and been in trouble a lot.
Just earlier this year, charged with misuse of nine to
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one one, he asked officers to investigate a man made
material that controlled when he ate walked and talked.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't even you know, this is just the
same old story over and over again, and it's so
sad that we have to keep having it, you know.
I mean, obviously justice system gaps as history, ranging from
armed robbery to bizarre mental health related incidents. I mean,
it's once again reigniting debates over this why are we
letting these people back out in the streets. But even
more importantly, I think is also the public discussion surrounding this.
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This is devastating for this poor woman, absolutely horrible. It's tragic,
and you would assume that everyone would also feel that
same amount of sadness for the situation.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Itself.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well, no, a GoFundMe came out for the killer, which
was ultimately shut down, but I think it had raised
upwards of fifty thousand dollars in a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Who's atributing to this GoFundMe? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And then furthermore, the Charlotte City Council, before they discussed
this under city Council agenda, they had to stop to
celebrate one of the council member's birthdays. They had a
cake celebration, they were laughing, taking photos, and then they
went back into the city council session to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That's just, to me, is heartless.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It's one of those things that you can't I mean,
the question of who's giving money to that guy's go
fundme page, right, That's that's one question. And and if
you did, if you knew somebody who gave money to that,
you'd have to you'd have to rethink your relationship to
that person.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, I want to know how mentally broken they are.
I mean, I think that there's a long list right
there of people who are mentally insane who then need
to get checked out. If they were willing to contribute to.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
That uh, the mayor.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
The mayor of Charlotte said, I want to thank our
media partners in community have chosen not to repost or
share the footage out of respect for Arena's family.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I haven't I haven't seen the whole footage. I mean,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
The only one I've seen is a very there's other
people on the bus, or at least one other person
on the bus whose image is completely blurred over so
you don't see it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And then it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The image freezes before she's actually stabbed, so you don't see.
I've never seen the gruesome, you know, full video that exists.
I'm sure, but it's all It is one of those things. Listen,
I know why people repost these things. They want to
prove that our you know, crime is rampant, and that
there is a problem with allowing people out of jail
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or prison when they prove to you they're incapable of
living in civilized society. This case out of out of
just out of the Inland Empire, where there's Emmanuel Harrow,
the seven month old baby who died likely at the
hands of his own parents or mother or father or both.
We don't know for sure, but dad beat his previous
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daughter into a bed ridden state for the rest of
her life, basically, and.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That guy got out of jail.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That guy never spent a day in jail according to
the and how we as a society see people who
show themselves, they prove themselves to be incapable, and we
just shrug our shoulders and go okay, but just don't
come to my neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
And in many times they admit it, right like, they
come out almost proud of it with this and they're
detached from reality, right, that's the mental illness. Clearly that's
pathological within a lot of these suspects. They admit it,
and we do nothing about it but put them back
out on the streets in the name of what. That's
what I'm still trying to figure out, especially as I
look at this from a policy perspective, is in the
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name of what are we going through this exercise of
continually letting these killers back out on the streets.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, all right, follow Chef Andrew Gruhle on x A
Chef Gruel g r u E L. What are the
other hats that you wear? Of course, is a city
council member for Huntington Beach City Council. We're going to
talk about some local government stuff that's going on in
the headlines today, and again, thank you for coming in.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's an honor.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Elmer.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is the first time we're going to start the
show with a talkback, so you got to.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen by Shannon.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I know I'm calling really early, you're not even on
the area yet. It's a little bit after nine o'clock.
But if you could please talk because we have a
Charger fan in house and we want to hear about
how it was in Brazil and what a great win
for them, and also because I'm the Niner fan, what
a great win it was from the Niners yesterday, and
so Gary, please let Shannon talk football today, please, So
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Chargers and Niners.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, you're right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I got good news and bad news. Yes, the Chargers won, Yes,
the forty nine Ers one. Shannon's out today. Shann's out
all week. She's actually doing something very good. She's helping
her mom or mom's going through surgery, so she's going
to be out all week.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But we have a.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Rolling cast of characters to help us through the day,
and today.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We get to welcome in. I don't even know which
title to use.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So I'm just gonna say Andrew grul Chef, Andrew Gruhle.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You see him all over the place nowadays.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You see him on Fox News a lot, filling in
doing interviews and things like that, founder of American Gravy.
Where else do you want to go? Twitter? Sensation or
ex hoergon?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Yeah, I know you could have gotten me canceled there,
you know, father of four, that's really what takes out
most of my time. That's good, that's a good way
to do it. And your kids are how old? Four,
six ten and fourteen?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Man? I said this off there. That's a loud house.
It is, that's a loud house.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, and then typically the cliche, right, you know, I'm
the fifth kid. My wife knows that I'm the one
who actually eggs them on. It'll be eleven thirty at
night and I'm just getting them riled up.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But you are.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You came to notoriety because of cooking, because of life
in the restaurant business.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Was that something you always wanted to do? It? Was
it a life that you dreamed of? Not in the
least bit.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I actually was horrible at cooking and mostly grew up
on processed food, microwave food Fast Food Nation if they will.
So maybe it was out of survival, but I ended
up I went to college, small liberal arts college for
something totally separate and just ended up spending all my
time working in restaurants and in kitchens and had that
aha moment of wait a minute, maybe this is what
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I should be doing, and thus the journey began. I
think it's imperative there. I think there are certain jobs
that everybody should have at some point in their life,
and working in a restaurant is one of those jobs.
I think everybody has to have that experience. Yeah, and
I agree, And that was kind of how I got in.
And I love the front of the house. I love
the back of the house. I love the I call
it like the pirate ship. Right, You're on a pirate
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ship and a bunch of crazy personalities. But when people
ask me now, they say, you know, oh, my son
is really interested in cooking shit, he go to culinary school,
et cetera. I say, no, go to school, either get
a law degree, get into Vogue Tech, or become a psychologist.
The cooking stuff's easy, right, because ninety five percent of
what I do is, you know, I deal with the
fact that Tom he broke up with Sally and he
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can't show up for his busting shift, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Or the refrigerator's broken or.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I'm getting suited, or he broke the refrigerator because he
was mad because of the breakup or something like that. Yeah,
the things that happened in Walkins, I mean, that's a
whole nother show you've done. You've done reality TV cooking,
been a judge on shows like that, And there's there's
something about watching those types of shows where I, as
an absolute non cook, think I could.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I could probably do some of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But there's such a time element, there's such a time
crunch on some of those things that I would be terrified.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Is it? Is it really?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I mean it's a reality show, that's what they call it,
but it's not reality, right, I mean there's yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And I guess I'm out of contract so I can
mention it. Yeah, some of them.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They're all different, right, So, like I judged Chopped and
Chopped Junior, And actually that was my claim to fame
because my Chop Junior episode was with Megan Markle like
like a week before she got together with you know, Royalty.
But so we did a food truck show too, and
that one was you know, they would they would cook
all the food at like eight or nine in the
morning and we would taste it on the panel at
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like six pm.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh, it had just kind of sat and.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
You know, then they they shoot it up with a
little parsley in an orange peel. So that one, you know,
is a little bit different, little more production. But those
the chopped ones, you know, those that's quick, right, thirty minutes,
especially when you do chop junior.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You got the kids, kids there and they're freaking out.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yeah, they handle it actually better than a lot of
my thirty or forty year old kitchen guys.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Really yeah, why what what about kids?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I mean they just I think I don't think kids
overthink things the way adults do. Right, So it's the
intellectual level, because like cooking is really just visceral, it's
just innate. So the kids get in there and they're
competitive and you know, they're just throwing things around.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And then you met your wife. You guys have been
married for twelve twelve.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Years, twelve thirteen years, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, how did that all come about? We met on Instagram?
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It kind of is is it really? It? Kind of?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Is we Actually it was before DM, so I wrote
our message, shoot me an email. I was very formal, right,
and then we went and had our first date and
then six six weeks later we were married.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Six weeks later, six weeks Yeah, did she grow up
in the same area?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
I mean, did you just where is she from? She's
from Huntington Beach. Yes, She's from Huntington Beach, California. I'm
from Jersey. I'm a Jersey boy. Yeah, yeah, I'm a
Jersey boy. But I was out here temporarily to do
run a sustainable seafood program with the Aquarium of the Pacific,
And it was before and then I ultimately turned that
into my first restaurant concept. And we met in the
very beginning of those stages. And you know what it is.
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It's like when you meet somebody and you say, you know,
I got.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
To lock this down.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
I just got this has got to happen here, So
move moved quickly.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We'll talk through the course of the show a lot
more about the individual restaurants, different food stuff that you've done,
cooking questions, things like that, because I'm fascinated by it.
I mean, my wife has been watching videos of you
and your wife and cooking and all. I mean, it's
been it's been great. But one of the other things
about this is that in the last couple of years
you have either been thrust into or been attracted to,
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depending on how you look at it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't want to say politics, that comes with a
negative connotation to.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It, but but a.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Community activism maybe something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I mean, and it's not like I'm out there protesting capitalism.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's more about stitching into the community. You know.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Representative government policy rightly, I thoroughly enjoyed policy. I actually
think if you look at all political policy, social and political,
that you can put it through the lens of food.
Food is the great unifier, right because if you think
about it restaurants, you get everything, as I mentioned, from
from social philosophy to economics to trade, international trade. Right Like,
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there's a there's a lot to it, and it's ordinary
and it's approachable. So so overlaying that prism into politics,
somehow I ended up on city council in many other.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Areas earlier this year. You are now on the Huntington
Beach City Council.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Correct, all right, all right, so we got all all
of that base stuff out of the way.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Again, more questions.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Throughout the course of the show, we are going to
talk about stuff that happens to be going on outside
of our immediate world, including the latest when it comes
to Russia and Ukraine. There's a huge article in the
Washington Post about how Gavin Newsom has seized the attention
of Donald Trump. He's been trying to do this for
a couple of years and apparently finally has done that.
(07:23):
So we'll talk about that kind of the reaction, and
then a bunch of a bunch of other stuff that's
going on.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So thanks, first of all, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
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You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (07:48):
A bunch of stories that we are following today and
we'll talk more about them as we get through the day.
The Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court, among other
things to allow the government to withhold for billion dollars
of spending on foreign aid that had been approved by Congress.
Palestinian attackers opened fire on people at a bus stop
during the morning rush hour in Jerusalem today.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Six people were killed.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
An Israeli soldier and civilians who were at the scene
pulled out their own guns and shot the shooters. Killed
the two attackers so later a third person was arrested
in connection with that shooting, and then way out in
the middle of the ocean, Hurricane Kiko has weakened slightly,
but I still had it toward Hawaii could cause some
life threatening surf and rip current conditions later this week.
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Kiko expected to become a tropical storm, downgraded to a
tropical storm tonight, probably passing by the main Hawaiian islands
tomorrow and Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shannon's out today. Chef Andrew Gruhl has joined us.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
One of the big headlines from overseas was Russia attacked
Ukraine again with and it seems like we've said this
multiple times over the last several weeks, the largest drone
assault of the war, and in this case, hundreds and
hundreds of drones more than eight hundred Iranian designed Shahed
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exploding drones and decoys around the country. Before that attack,
the largest attack was back in the beginning of July.
Russia had launched seven hundred and twenty eight drones. They
also fired thirteen crews in ballistic missiles in this latest volley.
According to the Ukrainian Air Force, nine of the missiles
about sixty of the drones evaded air defenses and made
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an impact. Now that just on the numbers there, that's
one thing to point out. Eight hundred drones are launched
by Russia, sixty of them make it in and cause
damage and death. So it's they're flooding the zone with
these with these drones. And we've seen that before because
they're so cheap to make. They're so I don't know
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who's making them.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
All. We know they're Iranian designed, but I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They're the ones that are actually putting this thing into
putting these things into the air. Soident Passet, he's increasingly
frustrated with what Putin has done, or probably more importantly,
has not done when it comes to any.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sort of a piece deal.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So get they're still working on it. I'm over here mumbling.
So the numbers, the exact numbers. I looked at eight
hundred and five drones, seven hundred and fifty one shot down.
That's unbelievable. But that's like that's spam warfare right there. Yeah,
using drones, uh, and the there. You know, I think
that Trump is gonna probably end up shooting his mouth off,
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and just he keeps trying to give him a chance.
And then they're throwing eight hundred and five drones over
the Ukraine. I can't imagine what it's like, this psychological
warfare of just having eight.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Hundred drones flying over you. I mean, obviously they're shooting
them down, but you know, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, and if you're if you're Ukrainian and you're living
in Kiev and you go to work, I mean they're
still they still have daily life, and then sun goes down.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You can't. It's not like you can rest.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I mean, that's that That's one of the horrors, the
psychological horrors of war is that you can't. You'd never
know when it's coming again. It's one of those frustrating
things as an outside observer because we are I mean
obviously geographically we're outside, but also because we don't necessarily
have boots on the ground or you know, military men
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and women in harm's way right now.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But how does this thing continue?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I mean, you made your point that Trump has been
allowing Putin time and space to make a decision to
end this, and he has it. And the big comment
yesterday from President Trump was that he's gonna He's talking
about a second phase of sanctions on Russia, and Russia
just double birds and says, you guys, do what you want.
We're not going anywhere. We're not changing our policy on this, especially.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
When on the global stage you have you know, the
president of India, and you've got g from China, and
then you've got you know, Iran and Russia creating this
kind of weird and interesting alliance. You know, some of
it create and some of it more figurative. So it's
not working in our favors. So the question is is
that do we just say, look, you guys, figure it out.
(12:08):
You're done, right, which is what a lot of Trump's
supporters are suggesting, versus Trump just closing the door on
Putin and introducing sanctions that are gonna, you.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Know, sanctions like he's never seen before, biggest ones biggest
ones ever.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, the biggest ones ever.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And then you've got our European allies that are terrified
about what would happen if we don't we, as the Americans,
don't stand up and instigate some sort of movement towards peace.
I mean, the summit between Putin and Trump in Alaska,
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it all looked like progress. It all looked like there
was something that was going to come out of it.
It wasn't perfect, but it was one of those glimmers
of hope. And now Zelensky came out today and suggested
that Trump just gave Putin everything he wanted, which was
more time to continue the destruction of Ukraine, to wear
down Ukrainian defenses and basically when the pr war of listen,
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we can't give up on the fight that we have.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
This is, you know, Russian territory.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
It's always been Russian, all of that argument, and we're
just and he knows Putin that is, we're just gonna
get fatigued by this. You know, we don't have because
we don't have the you know, the infrastructure, the investment
in Ukraine that other places do.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He knows that people are gonna get tired of it.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, and I think that he also from the American
perspective and US citizens, it's like, Okay, what's the off ramp?
Right Like, we're in, We're out, We're not in, We're out,
we're doubling down, We're totally out.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
We're Matt at Zelinsky right.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Like, the emotional journey that Americans have gone on over
the past couple of years has been very interesting, and
now we're at a point two years later where we
have not clearly defined what the off ramp is, right Like,
what are we suggesting and pushing in Ultimately, what is
the way in which all of this is going to
either go away or at least temper down to, you know,
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a level in which there's not eight hundred drone attacks
every single day.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, it's frustrating. I don't know what today.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
President Trump spoke this morning, and I believe the Bible
Museum in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
This did not come up.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
They were talking more about going into Chicago and militarizing
some of the law enforcement there.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
So, but this issue is not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Russia has plenty of drones obviously that they'll continue to
lob into Key.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But it is something that we'll watch.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The other issue is our governor Gavin Newsom has grabbed
attention in the last couple of weeks for a couple
of different reasons, and he's finally gotten the attention of
President Trump his best move. Trump's best move might be
to simply ignore Gavin Newsom, but I don't think he can.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I agree with that one thousand percent.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Look, Newsom's out there with his tweets and with his
PR team trying begging it. It's like the ex lover
who just wants to get in your face so that
you start to pay attention to them. If Trump just
completely ignored Newsome all together and pretended like he was nothing,
then I think that would make Gavin so angry that
he would go so far and above what he's been
doing today to make himself look even more crazy that
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it would at least be humorous.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And then you go, why are you why are you yelling? Yeah,
that kind of thing. All right, we'll talk about that
when we come back.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Hey.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Gary, Hey, it's nice to see that you got chef
Andrew Gruel to fill in for Shannon yes, I seen
him on gut Field a few times, and he's a
pretty cool dude.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, so welcome to being a pretty cool dude. Who
I got worried there for a second. Are you a
sports fan?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Oh my god, yeah, I thought we see clearly, I'm
a newbie here. I'm a sports fan. Yeah, big baseball fan.
I go by the season, though I can't overlap sports
a little bit towards the end. But I totally agree
with you. It's like when I'm in baseball mode. I'm
in baseball mode. Then you know, I'll kind of move
into football, but you know, a little bit of tennis
here and there.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I like to watch synchronized swimming. Now you're going too far.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So are you a Dodger fan? I mean you're back
You're from back East. Hey, listen, I'm a Giants fan,
so I get the heat all the time. So you know,
whatever you say is going to be better than being
a Giants I'm still in my fresh first hour here,
so I'll play at diplomatic and say I'm a baseball fan.
I mean, I'm down in Orange County, so we go
to a lot of Angels games. I mean I grew
up in New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
My family's from the Bronx, so obviously, you know, Yankees
blow through my blood. Sorry about that, everybody, but I
can appreciate baseball all around. Hey, look, you know we
had Don matting Lee out here, so yeah, you know
we we trade and.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Some good crossover, Yeah, good crossover. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And that World Series last year wasst have been a
lot of fun. Oh my gosh. Yes, I'm still thinking
about that one. You know, about eight years ago, I
was six foot nine and then after all these World
Series blows, you know, I'm down.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
To about five eight now.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Well, I'm good. I'm glad. The Dodgers did win yesterday,
by the way, they won, five to two. They were
playing in Baltimore. They'll host the Rockies tonight. Rookies that
are awful, I mean, historically bad team this year unfortunately
for them. Angels beat the As yesterday forty three, and
they'll host the Twins tonight tonight. Also Monday Night football,
(17:16):
first week of the season, Vikings Bears.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I don't pay that close attention to football until World
Series Game seven is over, and then by then you're
in week eight of the football season. You kind of
know who's you know, who's winning, who's losing, who to
root for, who not to.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, and if there's like a popular culture lifestyle spin
to it, like Belichick coming on the field for UNC,
you know, maybe I'll pay attention to some of this
stuff or see what's going on just so I know
what the outcome is and follow along with that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's like US Weekly of Sports. But otherwise I agree.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, that's what it comes down to, is we start
to peak in one season, it's hard to jump into
the other.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, speaking of baseball, this guy was once a left
handed pitcher or was he for the University of Santa Clara.
Gavin Newsom, did you know that? You know he played,
He he was part of the team. It's hard to
pin down whether or not anybody that played for the
University of Santa Clara actually claims him as a teammate.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It's the baseball story.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
There's a basketball story too that Senator Tony Strickland's talked about.
And you know, Tony was played against him, said we
never saw him out there. There's all these different stories.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, one of the things that Gavin Newsom has been
trying to do for a long time is get on
national radar and to get the attention of President Trump
because he believes that if he plays the game very
publicly that he will be able to out Trump Trump,
that'll be able to take him down in social media,
(18:40):
you know, back and forth and all that. And he's
getting the attention now that he's been trying to get
for years. I don't know exactly what flipped the switch.
One of the things that he's done is he's clearly
hired some new, younger PR people to take over his
Twitter account and imitate the style, the substance of Trump
(19:03):
truth social posts, all the caps thank you for attention
to this matter, like all of the goofy, all this
weird idio syncratic things that Trump does.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Gavin Newsom's now doing on his social media.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I think that he thinks the cliche all press is
good press is good in his camp, right, So they're
doing these things and they're getting a ton of attention
because it's so absurd.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But I actually don't know. I no longer believe in.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
That dogma that all press is good press, because in
this case it's bad press. It's embarrassing for them. They're
getting the attention because of the absurdity of it. Trump
is one of a kind. Like him or hate him,
It's one of a kind. He's got that style. When
you try and then replicate that, you're really diluting it
into a parody. And the parody is the person who's
trying to dilute it, not Trump himself. So he's making
(19:50):
a fool of himself. But the crazy thing is is
that Newsom is so oblivious and lives inside of his
bubble that he doesn't realize that he's the fool in
this story, and that's why people are giving him the attention.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I loved your analogy of it being sort of an
ex lover that's, you know, grabbing for attention, reaching out
to you on social media, and you your best option
is to ignore them. They try more outlandish and more
outlandish things, and then finally, you know, they're standing in
the Burbank Nature Park and they're lighting themselves on fire,
and you go, hey, whoa, where where did this come from?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Like relax, why are you shouting?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
And the crazy thing is that then there would be
no water to put the personality right, just the very
little social concern for them after they've you know, proven
themselves to be crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
This this fight I as entertaining as it is, I
think to watch. I thought that if I was to
give a letter grade to the people that were doing
the social media for Gavenusom, I'd give them a B plus.
Like I thought they I thought it was effective. They
were getting the publicity that they were looking for. But
in terms of me as a Californian asking the governor,
(20:59):
how does this make my state any better?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You're not doing anything to improve the quality of life,
the infrastructure, the you know, people fighting for minimum wag.
You're not improving anybody's life by doing this thing on
social media.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
And I think that that's the point, though, is that
he looks at it as a win win. So on
the one hand, if he gets attention, you know, kind
of in popular culture, well then he's gaining perhaps some
points he thinks he is. And on the other hand,
he can also use all of this noise to distract
from the reality that you just defined, and that's the
goal for him as well. But there's a certain point
at which everybody wakes up and they're like, wait a minute, here,
we got you know, Prop fifty coming down the pipeline.
(21:38):
You can't fund Prop thirty six, which we all voted for,
but yet you're putting two hundred fifty million dollars into
Prop fifty You know, obviously he's on his like tenth
iteration of his homelessness plan, which is just another failure.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And we could go on and on. The list could
go on.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
So I think there's an expiration date on what he's doing,
and I want to know what the next pivot's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
We shall see. We'll talk a little bit more about
the jerrymandering plan. By the way, coming up next hour,
chef Andrew Gruhl has joined us. Shannon's out this week.
We'll come back and talk about this other very high
profile story that made its way around social media this week,
that Ukrainian immigrant who is stabbed to death on a
train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
World famous, I would say world famous. Chef Andrew Gruel
has joined us for the show today.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Again.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Thanks for battling traffic to come in. It's not the
easiest place to find. Oh, it's a pleasure. I love
the traffic coming up. I'm sure. I'm sure you do.
One of the stories that grabbed headlines over the weekend,
I grabbed the attention to the president. As a matter
of fact, was this video that made the rounds. It
shows a twenty three year old woman getting stabbed to
(22:55):
death on a light rail train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Happened just before ten o'clock at night August twenty second.
A caller called and said that this woman had been
stabbed in the throat. The victim, woman named Ernya Zarutska,
left Ukraine with her mother three years ago, mother, sister,
and brother to escape the war with Russia. In her obituary,
(23:18):
said that she quickly embraced her new life in the
United States. The suspect in this case, thirty four year
old to Carlos Brown, taken to a hospital for treatment
of a laceration, but most importantly charged with first degree murder.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So here's the question. Was that an earthquake or was
that a truck going by? Probably an earthquake. We think
it's eurthquake. Okay, well we'll check that here in a
sick Did you feel it? Oh? I felt that?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Good? I just assumed it was my excitement. Shake it
in your chair already.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Now, this guy, unfortunately, we've seen these cases so many
times before. He's not let me just say, he didn't
have a clean criminal record, you know, one of those
cases where the police go, gosh, he's never shown up
on our radar before. That's not who this is. This
guy's been around a lot and been in trouble a lot.
Just earlier this year, charged with misuse of nine to
(24:08):
one one, he asked officers to investigate a man made
material that controlled when he ate walked and talked.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't even you know, this is just the
same old story over and over again, and it's so
sad that we have to keep having it, you know.
I mean, obviously justice system gaps as history, ranging from
armed robbery to bizarre mental health related incidents. I mean,
it's once again reigniting debates over this why are we
letting these people back out in the streets. But even
more importantly, I think is also the public discussion surrounding this.
(24:39):
This is devastating for this poor woman, absolutely horrible. It's tragic,
and you would assume that everyone would also feel that
same amount of sadness for the situation.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Itself.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well, no, a GoFundMe came out for the killer, which
was ultimately shut down, but I think it had raised
upwards of fifty thousand dollars in a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Who's atributing to this GoFundMe? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And then furthermore, the Charlotte City Council, before they discussed
this under city Council agenda, they had to stop to
celebrate one of the council member's birthdays. They had a
cake celebration, they were laughing, taking photos, and then they
went back into the city council session to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That's just, to me, is heartless.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It's one of those things that you can't I mean,
the question of who's giving money to that guy's go
fundme page, right, That's that's one question. And and if
you did, if you knew somebody who gave money to that,
you'd have to you'd have to rethink your relationship to
that person.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, I want to know how mentally broken they are.
I mean, I think that there's a long list right
there of people who are mentally insane who then need
to get checked out. If they were willing to contribute to.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
That uh, the mayor.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
The mayor of Charlotte said, I want to thank our
media partners in community have chosen not to repost or
share the footage out of respect for Arena's family.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I haven't I haven't seen the whole footage. I mean,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
The only one I've seen is a very there's other
people on the bus, or at least one other person
on the bus whose image is completely blurred over so
you don't see it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And then it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The image freezes before she's actually stabbed, so you don't see.
I've never seen the gruesome, you know, full video that exists.
I'm sure, but it's all It is one of those things. Listen,
I know why people repost these things. They want to
prove that our you know, crime is rampant, and that
there is a problem with allowing people out of jail
(26:32):
or prison when they prove to you they're incapable of
living in civilized society. This case out of out of
just out of the Inland Empire, where there's Emmanuel Harrow,
the seven month old baby who died likely at the
hands of his own parents or mother or father or both.
We don't know for sure, but dad beat his previous
(26:54):
daughter into a bed ridden state for the rest of
her life, basically, and.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That guy got out of jail.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That guy never spent a day in jail according to
the and how we as a society see people who
show themselves, they prove themselves to be incapable, and we
just shrug our shoulders and go okay, but just don't
come to my neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
And in many times they admit it, right like, they
come out almost proud of it with this and they're
detached from reality, right, that's the mental illness. Clearly that's
pathological within a lot of these suspects. They admit it,
and we do nothing about it but put them back
out on the streets in the name of what. That's
what I'm still trying to figure out, especially as I
look at this from a policy perspective, is in the
(27:36):
name of what are we going through this exercise of
continually letting these killers back out on the streets.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, all right, follow Chef Andrew Gruhle on x A
Chef Gruel g r u E L. What are the
other hats that you wear? Of course, is a city
council member for Huntington Beach City Council. We're going to
talk about some local government stuff that's going on in
the headlines today, and again, thank you for coming in.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's an honor.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
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