December 18, 2025 • 32 mins
Gary & Shannon share the latest developments in the Reiner murder case, walking through new information and what it means as the investigation continues.
The tone then shifts to “terror in the skies” with the bizarre trend of Jetway Jesus.
They wrap the hour with a reality check on California’s rising cost of living — including $25 cocktails — and debate whether going out for a drink has officially become unaffordable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What is the the pace car?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah? So you know what the Indy five hundred is?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah? Yeah, like racing, Yeah yeah, yeah, So the pace
car is.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Are we gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, it's like the brand, like the Wonderbread brand. It's
just like the pace car instead of the Wonderbread Car.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
No, so it's it leads now, it's a ceremonial. It
leads the field coin flip. It's how they start the race.
Basically is the pace car usually but now with a celebrity,
and it will run around the track leading all of
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the cars.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The first lap usually a Corvette pre lap. Yes, gotcha? Awesome?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay. And India is different from Nascar.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We learned something learned.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I learn a.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Lot about NASCAR. When I went to the Nascar Museum.
I was very ignorant and that is a great time.
That was a great museum.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Everything I know about Nascar I learned from Will Ferrell.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I didn't know anything about Nascar, and then I found,
you know, part of the biological family big Nascar fans
oh yeah, so I felt like I had to learn something,
you know, DNA and all that. Speaking of the big
news out of NASCAR, unfortunately, as a private jet has
crashed in North Carolina, multiple people dead. The Cesna C
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five fifty exploded in a massive fireball after crashing at
Statesville Regional Airport, about fifty miles north of Charlotte. The
FAA says the plane went down while attempting to land
at about seven twenty hour time this morning. So the
business records indicate the jet was owned by a company
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affiliated with retired NASCAR driver the Beff Greg Biffel.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Police had confirmed to CNN only that someone associated with.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
NASCAR was on the plane.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
There have been fatalities confirmed, but they haven't gotten into
specifics just yet.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So that is one of.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Those stories that we will continue to watch today. Well,
we know that Nick Reiner made his first court appearance yesterday,
which means that his defense attorney Alan Jackson had an
opportunity to stand in front of microphones, which she will
not turn down.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
There are very very complex and serious issues that they're
associated with this case. We asked that during this process
you allow the system to move forward in the way
that it was designed to move forward, not with a
rush to judgment, not with jumping to conclusions, but with
restraint and with dignity and with the respect that this
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system and this process deserves, and that the family deserves.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And I have only here because of all the publicity
that I'm begging for right now, because I have seen
the media presence out here today. It is only reminiscent
of the oj trial. And I am here to get
every dollar that results from all the publicity I'm going
to get from two murdered people. Thank you, and good night,
everybody that is Alan Jackson looking out for the almighty dollar.
(03:24):
You know, one thing I was thinking about today, I
was thinking about Department thirty, and I'm thinking about you know,
all of us who have covered news and high profile
trials in Los Angeles have spent time in Department thirty.
Usually you're waiting. You're waiting, and you're waiting, and you're waiting,
and you're waiting and you're waiting some more, because sometimes
an arraignment is supposed to happen at eight thirty am
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and it doesn't happen till one thirty two PM. A
lot of waiting, a lot of standing in line, especially
for high profile cases like this one. There are only
so many seats in Department thirty. Department thirty is unchanged
in the past five hundred years. You see pictures of
Department thirty going back to high profile, whope profile cases
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in the seventies, and it looks exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Please.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I mean, they can't even replace the plexiglass that exists.
It covers the dock in the Yeah, I mean, it
looks like such a broken down old room. It's like
they can't do anything to that place to you know,
just make it spruce it up. You have the attention
of the entire country on Department thirty, and it looks
(04:31):
like a ramshackle operation. But the thing that I was
thinking about this morning, when images and sketches of the
defendant were publicized in the morning news, I remember sitting
there as a reporter and looking at whoever it was
that was, you know, shackled.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In the orange or the blue or what have you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And thinking to myself, that person killed you know, it's
a superstar, or they killed a superstar. Because the media
only shows up for high profile cases, right, But like
that person killed somebody in the past, like two days
at some point, and it's just why, Like, I'm in
the same room with someone who brutal, in this case,
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brutally murdered, stabbed, and slipped the throats of his parents
a couple days ago. Yeah, and they look just like
anybody else.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You think in your head.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Like you you've seen twelve of those guys downstairs somewhere exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You expect or it's.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
A surreal feeling that you're in the room with a
murderer and somebody who just did this not even forty
eight hours ago.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I I didn't cover that many high profile cases here,
but I do remember the Green River killer up in
Washington State. When they finally arrested Gary Ridgeway, they he
went through all of his court things and at sentencing
they did all.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Of the victim impact statements.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And to be in the room because there was no
jury in this case, the media was in the jury box.
So we're even closer than we would be if we
were in the gallery behind him, sitting in the jury box,
ten feet maybe away from one of the most prolific
serial killers.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And in your head to be thinking about all the
things that he has done, all the bodies he has hidden.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Because we know the story, all the details, the details,
thank you of what we've researched in order to cover
the case. And then there was also after that, the
task force that was put together after he'd been arrested.
One of the things that he agreed to do was
to try to lead detectives to some of the places
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where he had buried bodies, and there were a couple
that were found, but they think he lied about some
of the other locations. But we went to the nondescript
little office building south of Boeing Field where that task
for was set up. He had his own room in
that like they'd bring him there first thing in the morning.
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He had a room, they would do a series of interviews,
they'd eat lunch, he'd get his lunch. They'd be there
until six seven o'clock at night sometimes. And to walk
into that place, into that little office building where they
were doing all this investigation was also just as creepy
because you're in the room where the guy lived basically
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for a few months.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, and if you ever went on a site visit
of where the murder took place with the defendant, where
they killed somebody, the location it is eerie.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It is insane to think about all that.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But anyway, that arraignment, by the way, has been kicked
to January seventh. We'll talk a little bit more about
what has transpired overnight since we last left you.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
When we come back.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
The information out of North Carolina is not great. There
was a plane that crashed at Statesville Regional Airport there
in North Carolina. The plane we know now according to
WAME Radio there in Statesville, North Carolina, that the plane
does in fact belong to NASCAR driver Greg Biffle. It
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was a Cessna five fifty business jet that crashed this morning,
apparently just after takeoff. It had some sort of difficulty
and then turned around and came back. The sheriff there
in Statesville, North Carolina has confirmed that there are fatalities,
but as of right now, the number of passengers was
(08:46):
listed at six. We do not know if any of
them are Greg Biffle or his family. It's one of
those stories that is developing, and we'll get some more
information as soon as we can. But again, six fatalities
and this plane in North Carolina of a plane that
is owned by Greg Biffel. Federal authorities arrested sixteen alleged
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members in associates of the Twente thirteen Street gang yesterday
used them of shootings, kidnappings, large scale drug trafficking throughout
the San Gabriel Valley, and operation that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Was tied to the Mexican mafia. And I have good news.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
This is probably more for us than anybody else, but
Greg Papa longtime play Oh. I love that news of
the San Francisco forty nine ers is back.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
His best call. He is the best call.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
He had to step away from from calling games because
of cancer treatment, but said he is better. He'll be
back starting next weekend against the forty nine ers play
the Bears and then for the regular season game, final
regular season game against that the all important game at
the end where they forty nine ers have to take
on the Seahawks. So that's great news because he's one
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of those good guys you'd cheer four and again, great.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Quality does right Sad frans Cisco. God, it feels so
good you hear that. Usually it starts with a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Hopefully the football games this weekend starting tonight are insanely good.
I mean, there's so much on the line this weekend
when it comes to the playoffs. I won't get into it,
but there's a lot of football porn out there if
that's what you're in the market for today. A lot
(10:29):
of exciting games to think about, a lot of possibilities.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right now we know that Nick Reiner is going to
be doing court on January seventh. He's being held on
I believe it's four million dollars bail. One of the
curious things is he is it a no bail case.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I think it's no bail at this point. It was
original four million bond.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
One of the things is the family released a statement.
The family released a statement, and it included all the
things that you would I'm not trying to be callous
by not reading it and paraphrasing it, but we read
it yesterday. But it did include all the things that
you would expect it to. Where heartbroken every moment of
every day. These were not our parents, just our parents.
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They were our best friends. There's no mention of the
brother in the statement released by the other two children
of Rob and Michelle Reiner. There's no mention of the
brother Alan Jackson does not come cheap.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Alan Jackson's his defense attorney.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Now, there is a school of thought that Alan Jackson
picked up this case because of the publicity alone. And
if you saw outside of CCB, outside of that Criminal
Courts building, it really did look like OJ. There have
been a number of high profile cases since OJ that
has created quite the media circus outside that building, but
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not like it was yesterday. It looked very reminiscent of OJ.
Michael Jackson, that kind of presence, Lindsay Loewen, with all
the paparazzi, that kind of a just massive circus. So
there is a school of thought that Alan Jackson picks
up this case for the publicity alone.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, there are questions about who's paying.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
For this That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, if because how much would how much would
a guy like Alan Jackson chart a thousand, one thousand
an hour?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Two thousand an hour? And then you have his team,
you have a retainer.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Obviously there's money in the Reiner estate, but who controls that?
It's the kids, right, I mean these are uncomfortable questions, But.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I who's paying for this defense?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, there are a couple different I've seen a couple
of different reports, and I don't listen, how do we
prove one way or the other? This is a lot
of this is what could be happening. One source told,
let's see that. Make sure I get the publication right
something blast, So take that from what it's worth. One
source claim the money used to hire Alan Jackson is
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coming directly from the Reiner family, that it would be
directly from the mother and father because the family personally
chose to hire him regardless of the cost. Now, I
don't even if, like you said, the two other siblings
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don't they didn't mention the brother in their statement. They
may want to look out for him despite the heinous
act that he's now accused of doing and accused of committing.
And they would prefer because they would probably prefer to
lose their brother to a mental health facility or a hospital,
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you know, other than death row, which doesn't exist, you
know what I mean, right, life in prison without parole.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But I mean that's that alone, right, There is a delicate,
complicated thing. Somebody in your family brutally murders your parents
like this, and what a loss?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And then I.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Guess there's a school of thought that losing him to
life in prison without the possibility of pearl compounds that. Sure,
But also, don't aren't you so mad? I mean, I
don't know, aren't you so mad? If I don't know?
Like I'm trying to put myself in this situation of,
you know, having a brother who has you know, you know,
documented addiction problems, mental illness.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's kind of been something You've been on.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Eggshells for your entire life in that house and in
that family, and what to do about Nick, and Nick's
always a problem and what to do and it's changed
your personality and maybe your trajectory. And then this is
the eventuality and all the feelings that go along with that.
You got to think, well, what would your parents want?
They'd probably want the best for Nick, the best defense.
(14:59):
These were also very liberal people, un doesn't bring politics
into it. Who would want the very best defense for
somebody who was mentally ill like that?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
There's also discussions about what happens with the estate. Assuming
Rob and Michelle Reiner had everything in place, had trust, Yeah,
he technically would still have access to the trust. He
could review it at any time because at this point
he's still only accused of the crime.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What happens to a trust if somebody in the trust
ends up killing the trustees?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Is there there is a state.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Laweh, that he would be ineligible, as I'm saying benefit, Yeah,
that's what I was wondering, which I didn't know because
I asked that same question and thought to myself, Well,
is that a normal paragraph that you'd put in a
trust document?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
By the way?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, by the way, if you killed the you know
your parents, you don't get anything. Yeah, but I guess
it's it is in the law as opposed to it's
in the trust. So yeah, this is again a case
that this is It's just awful. It's an awful case.
The fa family is going through something incredibly awful right now.
And it's not to say that their finances make it
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more awful, because families deal with this all over the place,
but this one being played out very publicly doesn't make
it any easier for them.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
All Right, how about we do some tear in the skies?
How does that sound?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Not yet, don't get to. Don't get to.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
There was a funny article in the Wall Street Journal
today about the AI instrument tool thing called Claude. Have
you seen commercials for them?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Have not.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's something about if you're a problem, solve or use Claude.
And the company that makes Claude, Anthropic, offered the Wall
Street Journal a vending machine run by Claude. And all
they did, the writers at the Wall Street Journal, was
mess around with Claude and eventually got this supposed to
(17:02):
be in charge of the vending machine, got Claude to
give everything away for free, including things like a PlayStation five.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What is that doing in a vending machine at work? Wow?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Great question, right, that's one of the things that they
made Claude think should be inn a vending machine at work.
So anyway, that's a funny story of how imperfect AI is.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Still we have a number of stories involving the friendly skies,
not always friendly, especially around this time of year. But
the big breaking news, unfortunately, is a plane crash in
North Carolina. We'll just briefly tell you what we know
the latest on this before we get into tearing the skies.
(17:46):
This is a private jet reportedly crashed there in North
Carolina this morning seven to twenty local time, multiple people dead.
According to local station WBTV, it was a Cessna C
five fifty exploded in a fireball after crashing at Statesville Regional,
about fifty miles north of Charlotte. They do say business
records indicate that jet was owned by a company affiliated
(18:10):
with retired NASCAR driver Greg Biffel.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Five I think is the confirmed fatalities. There may have
been six people on board. We do expect to see
some sort of an update out of North Carolina. When
that happens, we'll definitely bring it to you. We've been
telling you football tonight. Of course, Ram Seahawks in a
very important Thursday night football game tonight on Amazon, but
also on Fox eleven here in LA. They have that
rights because it's a local team, et cetera on Thursday nights.
(18:38):
And if that's not your flavor, then the old xbox
bill what's going on tonight too?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Also, it starts, I believe it's six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We're going pre eleven and walking people right to the
gate at the airports. It's where we kick off.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
There by zero Nior, you are aware at the day off, Roger,
get off my plane, Progerick Rodgers Victor victory put these
mumpy pipe snakes on this money.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
So the newly named Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport NICE
has launched the oak Guest Pass program this week.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yes, first First serve program allows those without boarding passes
to go through security checkpoints and enjoy airport amenities. I'm
looking at you, Vinovolo. That sounds not I'm worried about
Vino Volo at Oakland. I fear that they have shut
down since I stopped drinking. Is that the I put
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them through some tough times?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Did we sit there once? I mean I know many
people sat there many times. Did you sit there with
my wife and I once?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I feel probably why were we in Oakland together?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Because your dad's memorial? Oh we all went left the
airport that I thought we we're all in the same flight.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Guest passes still have to be reviewed and approved by
TSA to get a visitor security clearance. I used to
I used to love pre nine to eleven airports at
Sea tac You could walk up and grab somebody if
they came off the plane, and I could. You could
have cost and I mean this in the most polite
and respectful news gathering way you could have cost the
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governor of the state of Washington as he walked off
the airplane and ask him a series.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Of question I just like love actually. When that kid
gets by, you know, it's like, you shouldn't have the
barrier to love. If you want to run up to
somebody right before they get on that plane and tell
them you love them and get a kiss on the cheek,
you should be able to.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Here's my problem.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Don't don't question love actually stuff because you only saw
it once and some of us watch it every year.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Here's my problem with this.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Uh, is this gonna be one of those things where
you feel like you have to, Like, if my husband's
flying somewhere, am I gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Feel like to go.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Through the trouble of going to the gate?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Like this just makes you know driving to the airport,
driving someone to the airport is hard enough. That's an
antiquated activity, you know. Queen of England. I don't know
if I'd go to Lax for the Queen Queen of England.
It's very rare. The last time I went to Lax
to pick up someone, it was my girlfriend Katie. It
was the day Nipsey Hustle died, I think, or the
day of his funeral. It's been a while. Wow, yeah, don't.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I don't go to lax to pick anybody.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yep. Do you just tell them I'll meet you on
the other side of the four or five.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
My my sister went and picked up her mother, my
biological mother, at the airport. I said, it's a good
thing she kept the right daughter, because I would not
have made that track.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That is hilarious, I said. All my family members on
the fly away, I'm sorry, I love you. Yeah, fly
away is great.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, I'll pay for the flyaway for them too.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean it is good for them.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
They come every fifteen minutes. There's a charging port in there.
You can take a nap and wake up and you're
at your gate, right, genius, And you don't have to
listen to Richie's music exactly who wants that? You want
to freaking Paris Hilton stars are blind on repeats.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Or toxic by Britney Spears.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The good thing is he hands out adderall when you
get in his car.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's not true. No, No, it's already included inside my
air freshener. You just breathe. You just breathe. You're good, You've.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Atomized it, and it's just a part of the air
conditioning outside. There's a great article about jetway Jesus, and
I think anybody who has flown Southwest has seen this.
It's it's evident in other places as well, other airlines,
but I see it most often in Southwest. Someone needs
to have the wheelchair to get on the plane, but amazingly,
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when they get off the plane, they don't need the
wheelchair anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I've never heard of the term jetway Jesus, and I
love it.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They said that some able bodied passengers request wheel chairs
for VIP experiences, which would be the escort down the
JetWave lets them skip the lines, gives them the first
crack at the overhead space, and then once they realize
at the end of the flight they actually would have
to wait.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They don't bring the wheelchairs on first.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
They bring the wheelchairs on last, so you'd have to
sit there for an extra ten minutes or so while
everybody else moses on off of the plane.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You notice it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I noticed it just the last time I flew with
is Thanksgiving from Dallas to Burbank, And if you're a
regular at Burbank, you know they're gonna unload that plane
from the back as well, and you're gonna be outside.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So the trick is just get a back seat.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It doesn't if you don't mind get a back seat,
you're gonna be first off of that plane because everybody
else is going to think they're only getting off on
the front. But people when they get the wheelchair in Dallas,
amazingly don't want to wait for the wheelchairs to come
up that rickety ramp to get them off of the airplane.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So then they go, praise the Lord, Well you get.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
To board first if you got the jetway Jesus, yes,
you do, all right. Coming up next, cocktails punitively expensive.
It's wild all the advertising I've been hearing on the app,
listening to podcasts and radio shows and stuff about non
alcoholic things this holiday season, which are just.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
As expensive alcohol expense.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
My mom's been a fan of those mocktails for years,
and I and I thought, and I still continue to think,
what a waste of money, Like, what a boondoggle too.
You know, you're just paying for basically sugar water with
an umbrella or whatever. And a fun name, and it's
fourteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
What are you paying for? Get a Shirley Temple. I
got a Shirley Temple the other day.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
He's up for six days. See those two children.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, Tua got benched. Tua got benched in Miami. They
are going to go with a seventh round rookie quarterback.
Maybe they find another brock party.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh who's picked just before you were in.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Quinn Ewers, the last quarterback selected in the draft in
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, will make us first
career start Sunday against the Cincinnati Bagels.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Bengalscuse me? I like the Bagels, Bagels.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I know I'm hungry. Quinn Ewers he played for Texas Longhorns.
Three seasons there, led him to two appearances in the
College Football Playoff semis named MVP of the Big twelve
Championship game back in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Powerball jackpot continues to grow in a winter last night,
so it's going to be up about a billion and
a half the next drawing.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That seems like it's a lot Ard Conway talking about
this last night.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That was the end of my store.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Oh okay, you're just trying to show off that you
can still hear Conway in the afternoons.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's true, Well you can too. I also, could you
have a radio?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Do you have a phone?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What were you doing during Conway show? Instead of listening
working out?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Listen to a podcast?
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Day?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Really?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
About what?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It was?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Just a comedy podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I was listening to a podcast yesterday. It's called Hidden
Brain and it's done by Chancarvidantem, who has a very
soothing voice.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Say that again, Chankar Vedantem. Okay, Chankravidantem.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And it was about our pleasure devices in our brain
and how pleasure and pain are very closely related in
our brain, and what these phones mean for our dopamine releases,
and how it's changing the way our brains are it's
(26:56):
not changing the way our brains are trying to figure
out how to adapt for that. And you know the
way that it's put in this podcast, it's like a
seesaw pleasure and pain.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, you're you're focus on the pain the way
it used to be is you know you had to walk.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You're hungry, You got to walk ten miles to find
that date tree or hopefully find a date tree or
some source of food.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Right, And so it's pain, it's pain. It's pain. You're walking, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Heat of the day, you've got no shoes, there's no shade.
You're walking, you're hungry. Pain, pain, pain. Suddenly you find
a date tree and you have a date, and suddenly
that pleasure side of the sea saw is activated and
it brings you back to level. Right, So our brains
are constantly trying to get to that level pleasure pain,
pleasure pain, because that's how you reward yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Not too high, not too low.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But with our phones and the availability of everything that
we want so easily attained, we're constantly hitting that pleasure.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Side of the seesaw.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And what's happened is that the way they say it
in the podcast is there's a bunch of little gremlins
that are trying to bounce on the pain side, saying, hey,
we need level, we need this to be level.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And what are those little gremlins?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Their anxiety and their depression and they're all these things
trying to trigger some.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Pain so that you can balance.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's awful. What are we doing? What are we doing
to ourselves?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Not wild?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Well, I'm not going to show you any more babies
doing stand up videos, right, you're just I'm just gonna
hold those unhom me though.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I'll show them to you. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
There was an article of San Francisco Chronicle about how
California has crossed that twenty five dollars cocktail threshold.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And I remember this would have been many years ago.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Wife and I are in Vegas and there was a
twelve dollars drink on a menu, a twelve dollars drink,
and I.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Thought, what has happened? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
First of all, I splurged on it because I was like,
when am I ever going to spend twelve dollars on
a cocktail? But now now the article it points out
to a handful of very high end Beverly Hills restaurants,
some of the higher end, you know, world's greatest michel
and three star restaurants. Yeah, you're going to find a
cocktail for thirty bucks, but chances are it's made with
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very high end spirits.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It takes a little bit. It's not just somebody throwing
together an old fashion.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
It takes a little bit of construction, if you will,
or labor whatever, and it's got those other exotic ingredients
that you wouldn't have at home necessarily. That's why it's
going to cost you thirty bucks. But that even the
lower end restaurants are now selling you their version of
(29:47):
what should be a high end you know, they're specially
branded old fashion or a very special martini specific to them.
They throw their name on it, they tell you it's special,
and they charge twenty eight bucks for it, whatever it is.
It's a sign not only of the way the restaurant
industry has been impacted. Prices are going up across the board,
(30:08):
we know that, but that their profit margins are going down.
And the one the most significant place for many restaurants,
the most significant profit margins are on alcoholic drinks. Right,
So that's why they're you know, they're boosting and they're
putting a couple extra bucks there because that's what's holding
some of the other stuff up.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But when you think about it, if you go.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Out, you go out with your husband and you guys
both get a cocktail or I go out with my wife.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
We both get I get a beer and she gets
a glass of wine. And that's it. That's all. That's
a forty or fifty dollars night.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh yeah, it's insane. It is crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And what they started doing to cocktails now, I was
like a vodka soda of glass of wine person. But
you know the whole Rowan Atkinson, this is another love
actually reference of making a cocktail.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I never really understood.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And I know that that's like a slap in the
face to cocktail artists and the things, but it is
wasted on me. Just give me the tito's all right,
and we'll call it a day. I don't need the
sprig of fig or whatever the hell you're doing to it.
I don't need the cinnamon sparkle. I don't need all
that craft smoky. Give me the mf and titos.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
What are we doing.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I went through a phase of eating out at great
restaurants in my late twenties when I actually could pay
my rent is when I was like, this is so cool.
I lived on the West Side, like I want to
try these great restaurants. Black Beard, and I remember the
day that it ended went to a restaurant ordered scallops
thirty dollars, thirty dollars, and I remember thinking, oh my god,
(31:38):
this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Thirty dollars a thirty dollars entre. Oh my god. The
plate comes and there are three scallops on my plate.
I still bring this up.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
My husband's so tired of hearing about it, and he's
so tired of eating my cooking because I had had it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Like that was the breaking point for me of eating
at like a nice restaurant for.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Not a special occasion, just for the sake of this
is a great restaurant, has great reviews.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I want to taste this. Those days are over. And
it ended with the scallops.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
The three scallops for thirty dollars, Like that is insane.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I love scallops.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
They're delicious and when you cook them right, oh they
melt in your mouth. But thirty dollars for three I
felt like a fool. I did not want to feel
like a fool again. And now you know, when he
is good, we'll go to Wendy's.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What is the the pace car?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah? So you know what the Indy five hundred is?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah? Yeah, like racing, Yeah yeah, yeah, So the pace
car is.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Are we gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, it's like the brand, like the Wonderbread brand. It's
just like the pace car instead of the Wonderbread Car.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
No, so it's it leads now, it's a ceremonial. It
leads the field coin flip. It's how they start the race.
Basically is the pace car usually but now with a celebrity,
and it will run around the track leading all of
(00:51):
the cars.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The first lap usually a Corvette pre lap. Yes, gotcha? Awesome?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay. And India is different from Nascar.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We learned something learned.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I learn a.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Lot about NASCAR. When I went to the Nascar Museum.
I was very ignorant and that is a great time.
That was a great museum.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Everything I know about Nascar I learned from Will Ferrell.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I didn't know anything about Nascar, and then I found,
you know, part of the biological family big Nascar fans
oh yeah, so I felt like I had to learn something,
you know, DNA and all that. Speaking of the big
news out of NASCAR, unfortunately, as a private jet has
crashed in North Carolina, multiple people dead. The Cesna C
(01:36):
five fifty exploded in a massive fireball after crashing at
Statesville Regional Airport, about fifty miles north of Charlotte. The
FAA says the plane went down while attempting to land
at about seven twenty hour time this morning. So the
business records indicate the jet was owned by a company
(01:57):
affiliated with retired NASCAR driver the Beff Greg Biffel.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Police had confirmed to CNN only that someone associated with.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
NASCAR was on the plane.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
There have been fatalities confirmed, but they haven't gotten into
specifics just yet.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So that is one of.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Those stories that we will continue to watch today. Well,
we know that Nick Reiner made his first court appearance yesterday,
which means that his defense attorney Alan Jackson had an
opportunity to stand in front of microphones, which she will
not turn down.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
There are very very complex and serious issues that they're
associated with this case. We asked that during this process
you allow the system to move forward in the way
that it was designed to move forward, not with a
rush to judgment, not with jumping to conclusions, but with
restraint and with dignity and with the respect that this
(02:55):
system and this process deserves, and that the family deserves.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And I have only here because of all the publicity
that I'm begging for right now, because I have seen
the media presence out here today. It is only reminiscent
of the oj trial. And I am here to get
every dollar that results from all the publicity I'm going
to get from two murdered people. Thank you, and good night,
everybody that is Alan Jackson looking out for the almighty dollar.
(03:24):
You know, one thing I was thinking about today, I
was thinking about Department thirty, and I'm thinking about you know,
all of us who have covered news and high profile
trials in Los Angeles have spent time in Department thirty.
Usually you're waiting. You're waiting, and you're waiting, and you're waiting,
and you're waiting and you're waiting some more, because sometimes
an arraignment is supposed to happen at eight thirty am
(03:45):
and it doesn't happen till one thirty two PM. A
lot of waiting, a lot of standing in line, especially
for high profile cases like this one. There are only
so many seats in Department thirty. Department thirty is unchanged
in the past five hundred years. You see pictures of
Department thirty going back to high profile, whope profile cases
(04:06):
in the seventies, and it looks exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Please.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I mean, they can't even replace the plexiglass that exists.
It covers the dock in the Yeah, I mean, it
looks like such a broken down old room. It's like
they can't do anything to that place to you know,
just make it spruce it up. You have the attention
of the entire country on Department thirty, and it looks
(04:31):
like a ramshackle operation. But the thing that I was
thinking about this morning, when images and sketches of the
defendant were publicized in the morning news, I remember sitting
there as a reporter and looking at whoever it was
that was, you know, shackled.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In the orange or the blue or what have you.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And thinking to myself, that person killed you know, it's
a superstar, or they killed a superstar. Because the media
only shows up for high profile cases, right, But like
that person killed somebody in the past, like two days
at some point, and it's just why, Like, I'm in
the same room with someone who brutal, in this case,
(05:17):
brutally murdered, stabbed, and slipped the throats of his parents
a couple days ago. Yeah, and they look just like
anybody else.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You think in your head.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Like you you've seen twelve of those guys downstairs somewhere exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You expect or it's.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
A surreal feeling that you're in the room with a
murderer and somebody who just did this not even forty
eight hours ago.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I I didn't cover that many high profile cases here,
but I do remember the Green River killer up in
Washington State. When they finally arrested Gary Ridgeway, they he
went through all of his court things and at sentencing
they did all.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Of the victim impact statements.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And to be in the room because there was no
jury in this case, the media was in the jury box.
So we're even closer than we would be if we
were in the gallery behind him, sitting in the jury box,
ten feet maybe away from one of the most prolific
serial killers.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And in your head to be thinking about all the
things that he has done, all the bodies he has hidden.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Because we know the story, all the details, the details,
thank you of what we've researched in order to cover
the case. And then there was also after that, the
task force that was put together after he'd been arrested.
One of the things that he agreed to do was
to try to lead detectives to some of the places
(06:45):
where he had buried bodies, and there were a couple
that were found, but they think he lied about some
of the other locations. But we went to the nondescript
little office building south of Boeing Field where that task
for was set up. He had his own room in
that like they'd bring him there first thing in the morning.
(07:05):
He had a room, they would do a series of interviews,
they'd eat lunch, he'd get his lunch. They'd be there
until six seven o'clock at night sometimes. And to walk
into that place, into that little office building where they
were doing all this investigation was also just as creepy
because you're in the room where the guy lived basically
(07:28):
for a few months.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, and if you ever went on a site visit
of where the murder took place with the defendant, where
they killed somebody, the location it is eerie.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It is insane to think about all that.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But anyway, that arraignment, by the way, has been kicked
to January seventh. We'll talk a little bit more about
what has transpired overnight since we last left you.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
When we come back.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
The information out of North Carolina is not great. There
was a plane that crashed at Statesville Regional Airport there
in North Carolina. The plane we know now according to
WAME Radio there in Statesville, North Carolina, that the plane
does in fact belong to NASCAR driver Greg Biffle. It
(08:24):
was a Cessna five fifty business jet that crashed this morning,
apparently just after takeoff. It had some sort of difficulty
and then turned around and came back. The sheriff there
in Statesville, North Carolina has confirmed that there are fatalities,
but as of right now, the number of passengers was
(08:46):
listed at six. We do not know if any of
them are Greg Biffle or his family. It's one of
those stories that is developing, and we'll get some more
information as soon as we can. But again, six fatalities
and this plane in North Carolina of a plane that
is owned by Greg Biffel. Federal authorities arrested sixteen alleged
(09:08):
members in associates of the Twente thirteen Street gang yesterday
used them of shootings, kidnappings, large scale drug trafficking throughout
the San Gabriel Valley, and operation that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Was tied to the Mexican mafia. And I have good news.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
This is probably more for us than anybody else, but
Greg Papa longtime play Oh. I love that news of
the San Francisco forty nine ers is back.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
His best call. He is the best call.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
He had to step away from from calling games because
of cancer treatment, but said he is better. He'll be
back starting next weekend against the forty nine ers play
the Bears and then for the regular season game, final
regular season game against that the all important game at
the end where they forty nine ers have to take
on the Seahawks. So that's great news because he's one
(09:55):
of those good guys you'd cheer four and again, great.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Quality does right Sad frans Cisco. God, it feels so
good you hear that. Usually it starts with a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Hopefully the football games this weekend starting tonight are insanely good.
I mean, there's so much on the line this weekend
when it comes to the playoffs. I won't get into it,
but there's a lot of football porn out there if
that's what you're in the market for today. A lot
(10:29):
of exciting games to think about, a lot of possibilities.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right now we know that Nick Reiner is going to
be doing court on January seventh. He's being held on
I believe it's four million dollars bail. One of the
curious things is he is it a no bail case.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I think it's no bail at this point. It was
original four million bond.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
One of the things is the family released a statement.
The family released a statement, and it included all the
things that you would I'm not trying to be callous
by not reading it and paraphrasing it, but we read
it yesterday. But it did include all the things that
you would expect it to. Where heartbroken every moment of
every day. These were not our parents, just our parents.
(11:19):
They were our best friends. There's no mention of the
brother in the statement released by the other two children
of Rob and Michelle Reiner. There's no mention of the
brother Alan Jackson does not come cheap.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Alan Jackson's his defense attorney.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Now, there is a school of thought that Alan Jackson
picked up this case because of the publicity alone. And
if you saw outside of CCB, outside of that Criminal
Courts building, it really did look like OJ. There have
been a number of high profile cases since OJ that
has created quite the media circus outside that building, but
(11:55):
not like it was yesterday. It looked very reminiscent of OJ.
Michael Jackson, that kind of presence, Lindsay Loewen, with all
the paparazzi, that kind of a just massive circus. So
there is a school of thought that Alan Jackson picks
up this case for the publicity alone.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, there are questions about who's paying.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
For this That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, if because how much would how much would
a guy like Alan Jackson chart a thousand, one thousand
an hour?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Two thousand an hour? And then you have his team,
you have a retainer.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Obviously there's money in the Reiner estate, but who controls that?
It's the kids, right, I mean these are uncomfortable questions, But.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I who's paying for this defense?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, there are a couple different I've seen a couple
of different reports, and I don't listen, how do we
prove one way or the other? This is a lot
of this is what could be happening. One source told,
let's see that. Make sure I get the publication right
something blast, So take that from what it's worth. One
source claim the money used to hire Alan Jackson is
(13:06):
coming directly from the Reiner family, that it would be
directly from the mother and father because the family personally
chose to hire him regardless of the cost. Now, I
don't even if, like you said, the two other siblings
(13:29):
don't they didn't mention the brother in their statement. They
may want to look out for him despite the heinous
act that he's now accused of doing and accused of committing.
And they would prefer because they would probably prefer to
lose their brother to a mental health facility or a hospital,
(13:50):
you know, other than death row, which doesn't exist, you
know what I mean, right, life in prison without parole.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But I mean that's that alone, right, There is a delicate,
complicated thing. Somebody in your family brutally murders your parents
like this, and what a loss?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And then I.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Guess there's a school of thought that losing him to
life in prison without the possibility of pearl compounds that. Sure,
But also, don't aren't you so mad? I mean, I
don't know, aren't you so mad? If I don't know?
Like I'm trying to put myself in this situation of,
you know, having a brother who has you know, you know,
documented addiction problems, mental illness.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's kind of been something You've been on.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Eggshells for your entire life in that house and in
that family, and what to do about Nick, and Nick's
always a problem and what to do and it's changed
your personality and maybe your trajectory. And then this is
the eventuality and all the feelings that go along with that.
You got to think, well, what would your parents want?
They'd probably want the best for Nick, the best defense.
(14:59):
These were also very liberal people, un doesn't bring politics
into it. Who would want the very best defense for
somebody who was mentally ill like that?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
There's also discussions about what happens with the estate. Assuming
Rob and Michelle Reiner had everything in place, had trust, Yeah,
he technically would still have access to the trust. He
could review it at any time because at this point
he's still only accused of the crime.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What happens to a trust if somebody in the trust
ends up killing the trustees?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Is there there is a state.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Laweh, that he would be ineligible, as I'm saying benefit, Yeah,
that's what I was wondering, which I didn't know because
I asked that same question and thought to myself, Well,
is that a normal paragraph that you'd put in a
trust document?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
By the way?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, by the way, if you killed the you know
your parents, you don't get anything. Yeah, but I guess
it's it is in the law as opposed to it's
in the trust. So yeah, this is again a case
that this is It's just awful. It's an awful case.
The fa family is going through something incredibly awful right now.
And it's not to say that their finances make it
(16:06):
more awful, because families deal with this all over the place,
but this one being played out very publicly doesn't make
it any easier for them.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
All Right, how about we do some tear in the skies?
How does that sound?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Not yet, don't get to. Don't get to.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
There was a funny article in the Wall Street Journal
today about the AI instrument tool thing called Claude. Have
you seen commercials for them?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Have not.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's something about if you're a problem, solve or use Claude.
And the company that makes Claude, Anthropic, offered the Wall
Street Journal a vending machine run by Claude. And all
they did, the writers at the Wall Street Journal, was
mess around with Claude and eventually got this supposed to
(17:02):
be in charge of the vending machine, got Claude to
give everything away for free, including things like a PlayStation five.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What is that doing in a vending machine at work? Wow?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Great question, right, that's one of the things that they
made Claude think should be inn a vending machine at work.
So anyway, that's a funny story of how imperfect AI is.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Still we have a number of stories involving the friendly skies,
not always friendly, especially around this time of year. But
the big breaking news, unfortunately, is a plane crash in
North Carolina. We'll just briefly tell you what we know
the latest on this before we get into tearing the skies.
(17:46):
This is a private jet reportedly crashed there in North
Carolina this morning seven to twenty local time, multiple people dead.
According to local station WBTV, it was a Cessna C
five fifty exploded in a fireball after crashing at Statesville Regional,
about fifty miles north of Charlotte. They do say business
records indicate that jet was owned by a company affiliated
(18:10):
with retired NASCAR driver Greg Biffel.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Five I think is the confirmed fatalities. There may have
been six people on board. We do expect to see
some sort of an update out of North Carolina. When
that happens, we'll definitely bring it to you. We've been
telling you football tonight. Of course, Ram Seahawks in a
very important Thursday night football game tonight on Amazon, but
also on Fox eleven here in LA. They have that
rights because it's a local team, et cetera on Thursday nights.
(18:38):
And if that's not your flavor, then the old xbox
bill what's going on tonight too?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Also, it starts, I believe it's six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We're going pre eleven and walking people right to the
gate at the airports. It's where we kick off.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
There by zero Nior, you are aware at the day off, Roger,
get off my plane, Progerick Rodgers Victor victory put these
mumpy pipe snakes on this money.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
So the newly named Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport NICE
has launched the oak Guest Pass program this week.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yes, first First serve program allows those without boarding passes
to go through security checkpoints and enjoy airport amenities. I'm
looking at you, Vinovolo. That sounds not I'm worried about
Vino Volo at Oakland. I fear that they have shut
down since I stopped drinking. Is that the I put
(19:43):
them through some tough times?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Did we sit there once? I mean I know many
people sat there many times. Did you sit there with
my wife and I once?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I feel probably why were we in Oakland together?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Because your dad's memorial? Oh we all went left the
airport that I thought we we're all in the same flight.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Guest passes still have to be reviewed and approved by
TSA to get a visitor security clearance. I used to
I used to love pre nine to eleven airports at
Sea tac You could walk up and grab somebody if
they came off the plane, and I could. You could
have cost and I mean this in the most polite
and respectful news gathering way you could have cost the
(20:25):
governor of the state of Washington as he walked off
the airplane and ask him a series.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Of question I just like love actually. When that kid
gets by, you know, it's like, you shouldn't have the
barrier to love. If you want to run up to
somebody right before they get on that plane and tell
them you love them and get a kiss on the cheek,
you should be able to.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Here's my problem.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Don't don't question love actually stuff because you only saw
it once and some of us watch it every year.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Here's my problem with this.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Uh, is this gonna be one of those things where
you feel like you have to, Like, if my husband's
flying somewhere, am I gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Feel like to go.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Through the trouble of going to the gate?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Like this just makes you know driving to the airport,
driving someone to the airport is hard enough. That's an
antiquated activity, you know. Queen of England. I don't know
if I'd go to Lax for the Queen Queen of England.
It's very rare. The last time I went to Lax
to pick up someone, it was my girlfriend Katie. It
was the day Nipsey Hustle died, I think, or the
day of his funeral. It's been a while. Wow, yeah, don't.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I don't go to lax to pick anybody.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yep. Do you just tell them I'll meet you on
the other side of the four or five.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
My my sister went and picked up her mother, my
biological mother, at the airport. I said, it's a good
thing she kept the right daughter, because I would not
have made that track.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That is hilarious, I said. All my family members on
the fly away, I'm sorry, I love you. Yeah, fly
away is great.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, I'll pay for the flyaway for them too.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean it is good for them.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
They come every fifteen minutes. There's a charging port in there.
You can take a nap and wake up and you're
at your gate, right, genius, And you don't have to
listen to Richie's music exactly who wants that? You want
to freaking Paris Hilton stars are blind on repeats.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Or toxic by Britney Spears.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The good thing is he hands out adderall when you
get in his car.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
That's not true. No, No, it's already included inside my
air freshener. You just breathe. You just breathe. You're good, You've.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Atomized it, and it's just a part of the air
conditioning outside. There's a great article about jetway Jesus, and
I think anybody who has flown Southwest has seen this.
It's it's evident in other places as well, other airlines,
but I see it most often in Southwest. Someone needs
to have the wheelchair to get on the plane, but amazingly,
(22:46):
when they get off the plane, they don't need the
wheelchair anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I've never heard of the term jetway Jesus, and I
love it.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They said that some able bodied passengers request wheel chairs
for VIP experiences, which would be the escort down the
JetWave lets them skip the lines, gives them the first
crack at the overhead space, and then once they realize
at the end of the flight they actually would have
to wait.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They don't bring the wheelchairs on first.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
They bring the wheelchairs on last, so you'd have to
sit there for an extra ten minutes or so while
everybody else moses on off of the plane.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You notice it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I noticed it just the last time I flew with
is Thanksgiving from Dallas to Burbank, And if you're a
regular at Burbank, you know they're gonna unload that plane
from the back as well, and you're gonna be outside.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So the trick is just get a back seat.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It doesn't if you don't mind get a back seat,
you're gonna be first off of that plane because everybody
else is going to think they're only getting off on
the front. But people when they get the wheelchair in Dallas,
amazingly don't want to wait for the wheelchairs to come
up that rickety ramp to get them off of the airplane.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So then they go, praise the Lord, Well you get.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
To board first if you got the jetway Jesus, yes,
you do, all right. Coming up next, cocktails punitively expensive.
It's wild all the advertising I've been hearing on the app,
listening to podcasts and radio shows and stuff about non
alcoholic things this holiday season, which are just.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
As expensive alcohol expense.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
My mom's been a fan of those mocktails for years,
and I and I thought, and I still continue to think,
what a waste of money, Like, what a boondoggle too.
You know, you're just paying for basically sugar water with
an umbrella or whatever. And a fun name, and it's
fourteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
What are you paying for? Get a Shirley Temple. I
got a Shirley Temple the other day.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
He's up for six days. See those two children.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, Tua got benched. Tua got benched in Miami. They
are going to go with a seventh round rookie quarterback.
Maybe they find another brock party.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh who's picked just before you were in.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Quinn Ewers, the last quarterback selected in the draft in
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, will make us first
career start Sunday against the Cincinnati Bagels.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Bengalscuse me? I like the Bagels, Bagels.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I know I'm hungry. Quinn Ewers he played for Texas Longhorns.
Three seasons there, led him to two appearances in the
College Football Playoff semis named MVP of the Big twelve
Championship game back in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Powerball jackpot continues to grow in a winter last night,
so it's going to be up about a billion and
a half the next drawing.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That seems like it's a lot Ard Conway talking about
this last night.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That was the end of my store.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Oh okay, you're just trying to show off that you
can still hear Conway in the afternoons.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's true, Well you can too. I also, could you
have a radio?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Do you have a phone?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What were you doing during Conway show? Instead of listening
working out?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Listen to a podcast?
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Day?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Really?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
About what?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It was?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Just a comedy podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I was listening to a podcast yesterday. It's called Hidden
Brain and it's done by Chancarvidantem, who has a very
soothing voice.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Say that again, Chankar Vedantem. Okay, Chankravidantem.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
And it was about our pleasure devices in our brain
and how pleasure and pain are very closely related in
our brain, and what these phones mean for our dopamine releases,
and how it's changing the way our brains are it's
(26:56):
not changing the way our brains are trying to figure
out how to adapt for that. And you know the
way that it's put in this podcast, it's like a
seesaw pleasure and pain.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, you're you're focus on the pain the way
it used to be is you know you had to walk.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You're hungry, You got to walk ten miles to find
that date tree or hopefully find a date tree or
some source of food.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Right, And so it's pain, it's pain. It's pain. You're walking, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Heat of the day, you've got no shoes, there's no shade.
You're walking, you're hungry. Pain, pain, pain. Suddenly you find
a date tree and you have a date, and suddenly
that pleasure side of the sea saw is activated and
it brings you back to level. Right, So our brains
are constantly trying to get to that level pleasure pain,
pleasure pain, because that's how you reward yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Not too high, not too low.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But with our phones and the availability of everything that
we want so easily attained, we're constantly hitting that pleasure.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Side of the seesaw.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
And what's happened is that the way they say it
in the podcast is there's a bunch of little gremlins
that are trying to bounce on the pain side, saying, hey,
we need level, we need this to be level.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And what are those little gremlins?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Their anxiety and their depression and they're all these things
trying to trigger some.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Pain so that you can balance.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's awful. What are we doing? What are we doing
to ourselves?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Not wild?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Well, I'm not going to show you any more babies
doing stand up videos, right, you're just I'm just gonna
hold those unhom me though.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I'll show them to you. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
There was an article of San Francisco Chronicle about how
California has crossed that twenty five dollars cocktail threshold.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And I remember this would have been many years ago.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Wife and I are in Vegas and there was a
twelve dollars drink on a menu, a twelve dollars drink,
and I.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Thought, what has happened? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
First of all, I splurged on it because I was like,
when am I ever going to spend twelve dollars on
a cocktail? But now now the article it points out
to a handful of very high end Beverly Hills restaurants,
some of the higher end, you know, world's greatest michel
and three star restaurants. Yeah, you're going to find a
cocktail for thirty bucks, but chances are it's made with
(29:20):
very high end spirits.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It takes a little bit. It's not just somebody throwing
together an old fashion.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
It takes a little bit of construction, if you will,
or labor whatever, and it's got those other exotic ingredients
that you wouldn't have at home necessarily. That's why it's
going to cost you thirty bucks. But that even the
lower end restaurants are now selling you their version of
(29:47):
what should be a high end you know, they're specially
branded old fashion or a very special martini specific to them.
They throw their name on it, they tell you it's special,
and they charge twenty eight bucks for it, whatever it is.
It's a sign not only of the way the restaurant
industry has been impacted. Prices are going up across the board,
(30:08):
we know that, but that their profit margins are going down.
And the one the most significant place for many restaurants,
the most significant profit margins are on alcoholic drinks. Right,
So that's why they're you know, they're boosting and they're
putting a couple extra bucks there because that's what's holding
some of the other stuff up.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But when you think about it, if you go.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Out, you go out with your husband and you guys
both get a cocktail or I go out with my wife.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
We both get I get a beer and she gets
a glass of wine. And that's it. That's all. That's
a forty or fifty dollars night.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh yeah, it's insane. It is crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And what they started doing to cocktails now, I was
like a vodka soda of glass of wine person. But
you know the whole Rowan Atkinson, this is another love
actually reference of making a cocktail.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I never really understood.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And I know that that's like a slap in the
face to cocktail artists and the things, but it is
wasted on me. Just give me the tito's all right,
and we'll call it a day. I don't need the
sprig of fig or whatever the hell you're doing to it.
I don't need the cinnamon sparkle. I don't need all
that craft smoky. Give me the mf and titos.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
What are we doing.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I went through a phase of eating out at great
restaurants in my late twenties when I actually could pay
my rent is when I was like, this is so cool.
I lived on the West Side, like I want to
try these great restaurants. Black Beard, and I remember the
day that it ended went to a restaurant ordered scallops
thirty dollars, thirty dollars, and I remember thinking, oh my god,
(31:38):
this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Thirty dollars a thirty dollars entre. Oh my god. The
plate comes and there are three scallops on my plate.
I still bring this up.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
My husband's so tired of hearing about it, and he's
so tired of eating my cooking because I had had it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Like that was the breaking point for me of eating
at like a nice restaurant for.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Not a special occasion, just for the sake of this
is a great restaurant, has great reviews.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I want to taste this. Those days are over. And
it ended with the scallops.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
The three scallops for thirty dollars, Like that is insane.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I love scallops.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
They're delicious and when you cook them right, oh they
melt in your mouth. But thirty dollars for three I
felt like a fool. I did not want to feel
like a fool again. And now you know, when he
is good, we'll go to Wendy's.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
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Speaker 4 (32:28):
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