June 13, 2025 • 34 mins
#SWAMPWATCH / #TiTS – 32 Hr. Flight. History of Father’s Day. Beware of this silent, seething relationship-killer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Nineteen seventy six is our Flashback Friday year for no
great reason other than there's good music.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I've got a.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Neighbor who calls his wife, who's also my neighbor, the
little muffin, and he.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Says it a lot. You go, oh, the little muffin.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What does he call her like when he's beckoning her
or commanding her color muffin?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think, really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I just I feel like that's and I think it's adorable.
It's very cute for them, But I think it should
be a then thing, you know, like inside the house
thing shmoopy. Yeah, the little muffin? How cute is that?
What do you call your wife? Here's the thing I
don't often use. I don't have to get her attention.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't go hey or snap my fingers, which is awful. Yeah,
don't do that. I found that out the hard way.
I call her Shannon, but she says, I don't say
it very often.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, it's jarring. It is jarring.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I say it four hours a day, and she said, yeah,
but you don't say it to me. It's different.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
She prefers you to use her name.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't like it when I when I hear somebody
use my name, I feel like I'm in trouble. Aside
from the show, I feel like it's a trouble situation.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, let's jump right into a swamp watch. We got
some developing news out of the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are dumb.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
The other side never quit, so what what.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm not going anywhere so that the squat I can
imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
You know, Americans have always been gone all.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Whether people voted for you were not swamp launch, They're
all counted on.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
According to ABC News and some other outlets in the
Middle East, Israel launched the dozens of strikes against Iran
early and now Iran has responded with some amount of
missiles that have been detected launched towards Israel. The saving grace,
I suppose, is that they are far enough apart. It
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takes a long time for those missiles to get to
to Israel from Iran. A couple of live shots that
exist now in Tel Aviv, and you can see what
appeared to be either aircraft or missiles moving through the
sky there. But again, this is this just came in
a few minutes ago, that Israel has detected that Iran
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has launched missiles towards Israel in what was anticipated as
a reaction to the massive attack that Israel foisted upon Iran.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Just overnight, Trump is meeting with the National Security Council.
Several high ranking Iranian military leaders obviously killed in those attacks.
We named at least three of them. The President knew
about Israel's plans to strike, obviously, so Iron no longer
planning to engage in any sort of nuclear talks with us.
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They were set to happen, by the way, this weekend
Sunday in Oman.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Talk suspended indefinitely.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No one's coming to the table because, as you could imagine,
it seems like this is all done with the blessing
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
The specifics of the attack, Israel's attack on Iran are
pretty amazing in terms of how widespread the attacks were
throughout the country, who they targeted, and what they targeted.
They were basically in dozens, dozens of different places that
Israel was able to attack, several leaders, like you said,
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military leaders, but also leaders of the nuclear program there
in Iran that have now been killed. And then the
locations several nuclear facilities, some that were relatively easy to
get to and others that may have been a couple
hundred feet underground. We know that Massad was able to
bring missiles into Iran undercover and use those missiles from
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within the country as part of that attack last night.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We have been working to reach a deal with Iran
for weeks on a nuclear agreement. Israel's ambition, in the
New York Times, is to destroy the heart of Iran's
nuclear program.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Iran fell a foul of the.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
UN's rules when it comes to nuclear programs just one
day before the attack began. Then the question is, does
Iran ever listen to anyone or back down from developing
or maintaining its nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They've broken promises for every turn. Again.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The update just a few minutes ago is that the
Israeli Defense forces have sent an initial warning to all
civilians in the country to take shelter. Iranian missiles are
apparently making their way to Israeli territory.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Is it just a case of suffering setbacks of delivering
them setbacks to their nuclear program? Is that the endgame
here is there's no way they're going to just stop
developing nuclear weapons. But if we attack them, or Israel
attacks them, at least they'll be set back years.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, the way Israel has done this, look at their
attitude towards Hamas. They have not stopped the devastation in Gaza.
They say they won't stop until Amas is completely eradicated.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's what they've said.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The Israeli's all also said just last week that they
will not accept a nuclear armed Iran. And with the
fact that they were days or maybe a couple of
weeks away from enriching to the point that they could
have nuclear weapons that double middle finger that I told
you about when the IAEA came out and said Iran
continues to break promises, and then Iran said yeah, and
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we're also going to open a new enrichment facility.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Iran finally had to pull the trigger on it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And if it's true that they're talking about they have
a war plan for fourteen days, there's going to be
nothing left. So I think it goes beyond what they
believe would be just a setback or a pause and
saying we're going to destroy all of the infrastructure that
exists around the nuclear program.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Of course, oil price has become a part of the
conversation when we've got this going on in that area
of the world. Where oil prices go from here depends
on how Iran responds to these attacks. According to analysts,
that prices could climb further if Iran attacks energy infrastructure
or US bases in the area. It looks like our
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oil companies and big producers in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia,
things like that not looking to ramp up production quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
So oil prices could be a real.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Issue, especially when the Trump administration has a goal of
lowering energy costs to keep that inflation in check, which
it has.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
With all of this going on, The United States is
moving a couple of destroyers towards the Eastern Mediterranean. The
Pentagon says they are capable of defending against ballistic and
cruise missile attacks. They were already in that area, but
have rerouted to be available if necessary. So something that
we will keep an eye on throughout the weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
All right, coming up next, a thirty two hour flight.
Could you imagine this? Your you bord a flight a
three hour flight, by the way, a little more than
three hours, three hours and some change, and you end
up on a thirty two hour flight.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What does that sound like to you?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
H double hockey sticks?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I was going to say tear in the skies.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Also, so we're not using the word hell on the
program anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, we need to.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
There was also a story that suggests that Americans curse
more than any other country.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I've really got to start working on that. Okay,
I actually have been doing pretty good lately. Okay, do
you think outside of these four hours? I don't know,
but I've heard a lot of words you have. Yeah,
what are you so innocent?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I don't think I've been swearing a lot lately.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But let me also point out there are things that
you say that you don't even know you say until
after you've said.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, and then sometimes not even then.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, we've got air raid sirens sounding in Jerusalem, Israel
saying Aron has fired missiles. At least one explosion heard
in the distance. As the skies are lighting up there
in Tel.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Aviv, you can see not only there's at least one
missile strike appears in central Tel Aviv. There were defense
missiles going the other way from the ground to the
air as well. But there is smoke rising up from
the central area around Tel Aviv, reports of impacts somewhere.
They don't know exactly what was targeted or if it
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was just kind of a random thing and just headed
towards the center of Tel Aviv.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
They say dozens of incoming missiles have been detected there,
according to the Israeli military officials.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
This, of course, in response to Israel's attack on Iran
overnight that hit hundreds of sites, two hundred different targets,
including several of the nuclear facilities that Ron has been
working on, and military leaders and leaders of the nuclear program.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, we've got a thirty two hour flight, which lends
itself to terror in this guy, fight is.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Zero Nior, You're a clay every day.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Off Roger, get off my plane, Roderick Rodgers, what's our vector, Victor?
I have handed with these multi pint and snakes on
this money.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the skies on KFI.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
All right.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I said this was a three hour and change flight.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's actually a two hour and change flight from Zurich
to Crete, Zurk, Switzerland, Crete, Greece. This was a plane
carrying one hundred and thirty seven passengers, six crew members
and again the flight was supposed to take just under
three hours, but then came the extreme weather conditions, so.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They had strong winds.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Takeoffs and landings at the Harraclayon Airport on Crete only
possible to a limited extent, so to several attempts to land,
the flight was unable to operate as plan. They had
to be diverted several times, including a night stop in
Thessalona say it again, Thessalonic Higher Saloni.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Key, before finally returning to Zurich. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Refreshments and drinks were served for all guests by the
crew in the galley. Some passengers complained that they weren't
given many refreshments. Some reportedly vomited during one of the
attempt at approach.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Do you imagine five times you try to stop that
you even stopped for overnight. I mean, I had one
flight that I've talked about before. It was from Sacramento
to Burbank and it was in the winter. It was January,
February or something went up for my nephew's rugby game,
and it totally crazy winds at Burbank, it's raining. Tried
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to land, winds were too strong, don't even touch the runway,
but got close and then took right back off, made
another pass, tried to land again, and that was it.
It took right back off again, made another circle, landed
back at Sacramento International all the way to Burbank.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Couldn't land twice. It went back to Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
You could even probably see your car from.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Exactly and that was a little frustrating, but I'm glad
that they acted out of an abundance of caution. It's
a short runway there, the whole bit. But thirty two hours,
my god, Well, who doesn't I mean, is anybody up
in arms? I'm surprised we haven't heard reports from people
freaking out like, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What are we doing here? Land anywhere? Land anywhere?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
According to Business Insider, the flight circled off the coast
of Crete six times before a U turn and then
turn around to land in Athens. They made four stops,
endured an overnight's day in Thessalon Kai during a thirty
two hour travel time, stopped in Athens a second time,
and in coasts before going You know what they just said.
They threw it in there, threw up their hands, forget it,
We're just going back to Zurich. Never mind, good lord,
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you geta ridden a bike there quicker?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Where would you go if if you had to endure
a thirty two hour flight? What would you endure a
thirty two hour flight for? Where do you love so
much much that you would spend thirty two hours on
a flight to get to?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I don't know if there is such a place.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Maybe if you were somewhere and you just said, bet,
you haven't been home for a long time and you
just wanted to go home, probably that would probably be it.
We lasted thirty two hours in an airport one time.
It wasn't thirty eight felt like it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We got to the airport at eleven or twelve, but
didn't take off until about twelve.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh, thegether in noon.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't think we took off until midnight. Gary and
Shannon will continue the forgotten history of Father.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh this is great Father's Day. Who knew it came
with such controversy? It started with a mine explosion?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Who knew? Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We are staying on top of all of the action
as Run launches retaliatory missiles tour to Israel. Several missiles
have been detected, according to Israeli military officials.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And we knew this was coming.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
We knew there was going to be some type of
retaliation for what we saw happen yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Iran itself says that hundreds of missiles have been launched
towards Israel. We don't know exactly if there's a specific
target that they have in mind or targets. Some of
the live cameras that exist in and around Tel Aviv,
you can see at least three impacts of missiles in
what appears to be sort of the downtown Tel Aviv
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area and originally some of the reports on Fox and
CNN had suggested that there were no known injuries at
this point. But again, it's about nine thirty at night
Israel time, and this is going to be a long
night for them as they deal with again Iran saying
hundreds of missiles that have been launched towards Israel.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The Ayatola has vowed revel and a recorded message to
the nation this hour as well the State News Agency
saying that this is all part of their response to
the attack on Iranian nuclear and military sites, all trying
to get a Ran to abandon its nuclear program or
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at least play by the rules.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And it has not wanted to do so.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, it's gonna be a long weekend. I know you
have things going on.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, I just I mean, all of this stuff that's
happening is on top of other normal life stuff, and
I guess this is normal life.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Father's Day wasn't always a thing Mother's Day started at all,
but the first Father's Day was actually.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Nineteen oh eight, if I remember correctly, fourteen for Mother's
Day nineteen fourteen, Okay. Men in the early nineteen hundreds
associated a tribute with women and found the idea of
a day for men too effeminate for their liking.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, insinuating that men had anything to do with parenting,
with rearing the children was considered a taboo situation that
that's not manly enough for them to rear children.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
That's what mothers do. And so that was kind of
the feeling amongst men.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The idea that there would be flowers or brunches or
anything of that nature was just ridiculous to men at
the time.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So it was largely just ignored or even poop pooed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Funny because I don't know a lot of to that end.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know a lot of dudes who are like, yeah,
I can't wait to celebrate Father's Day where I have
to cook. Oh, because you're grilling. I was talking to
a guy last night. He was like, yeah, I get,
but his caveat is he'll cook. He just gets to
choose what and how. So he has a smoker and
he's talking about, you know, the different cuts of meat,
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which ones he's going to smoke for twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So in the article I was looking at yesterday, they
say Mother's Day has roots dating back actually to the
eighteen sixties, that Father's Day took a few more decades
to catch on history dot com sites a florist who
suggested that fathers haven't had the same sentimental appeal that
mothers had. The first documented event to explicitly honor fathers
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was held at a West Virginia church July fifth, nineteen
oh eight. Now, this initial Father's Day celebration in nineteen
oh eight was dedicated to the memory of three hundred
and sixty two men who had died six months before
and explosions at a coal company, but that did not
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become an annual event just that The following year, a
woman by the name of Sonora Smart Dodd attempted to
create the equivalent of a Mother's Day for male parents
in Spokane, Washington.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
She was one of six children raised.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
By a widower, and this first statewide Father's Day was
celebrated there in Washington June nineteenth, nineteen ten, two years
after President Woodrow Wilson issued a proclamation for the first
Mother's Day, he honored the day by using telegraph signals
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to inferl a flag in Spokane, and then in nineteen
twenty four, President Calvin Coolidge encouraged state governments to observe
Father's Day. But one historian cited in history dot Com
wrote that many men scoffed at this. The holiday's sentimental
attempts to domesticate manliness was how it was described, with
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the flowers and the gift giving and all of that.
To Kate Manling, that they saw these holidays as a
commercial gimmick to sell more products.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And how wise they were.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's what all of this crap is all about, they said,
often paid for, to your point, by the father himself.
The father is the head of the household back then,
and for a very long time, He's the one buying
the things for Mother's Day. He's the one buying things.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
For all the.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Holidays that are there just for you to buy things, right,
Why add another one to his bank roll or what
have you. In the nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties, there
was a movement to do away with Mother's Day and
Father's Day and instead celebrate a single holiday, which was
called to be called Parents' Day. There were demonstrations in
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Central Park at the time, a reminder that both parents
should be loved and respected together.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
There were demonstrations about this. But then the great, the
good old days, when demonstrations were about him combining mothers
and Father's days.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The Great Depression, they say, proved to be a major
obstacle struggling businesses framed Father's Day as a second Christmas
for men, and then when World War II began, the
holiday was promoted to support the war effort and honor
American troops. Now that strategy gained widespread support by the
war's end, I mean what didn't gain support? And World
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War two times to honor the people that fought. But
it wasn't until nineteen seventy two that President Nixon signed
a proclamation to make Father's Day a federal holiday.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Why does the government have to be involved with it? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Father's Day earned this level of recognition fifty eight years
after Mother's Day. Fifty eight years after the government recognized
Mother's Day, they recognized Father's Day.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I know that Major League Baseball does a big deal
about Mother's Day and Father's Day. Obviously that falls those
fall within the season, so on Mother's Day we can end.
They do a big deal about breast cancer awareness and
breast cancer research funding, where a lot of the players
wear pink cleats or they use pink bats. Or and
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in fact they I don't remember if they did it
this year, but they'll wear pink logos, not the entire uniform,
but just the lettering sometimes on their jerseys would be pink.
And then for Father's Day they do a light blue
for prostate cancer awareness, some more common cancer among men diseases.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Aside, it's obvious what moms do, right, I mean, usually
fathers are seen as you know, the head of the
household when it comes to financial things, or at least
historically that has been the case.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That has changed dramatically.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But you know, for all the stories we do about
serial killers and the like, with no fathers here.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It comes oh, okay, they're gonna say, because they're all men. No, okay,
why would I do?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I seem like that kind of person.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, the importance of having a father and being
a father is also asked and answered, right it should.
Mother's Day seems like there's so much seriousness around it,
where Father's Day is kind of like, eh, you girls,
some hot dogs whatever, watch the baseball game. I mean,
it's very important to be a father. It's like be
a father, not just you know, dedicate your sperm to a.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Woman, not just donate not just donate it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You know, But like all the problem, all the societal
problems that happened with lack of dad's being dads or
just you know.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's also something I enjoy about and Father's Day kind
of points it out to me. The naivete that we
grow up with. We assume everybody in the world does
the same things we do. So if your family celebrates
Christmas for the first few years of your life, you
assume everybody celebrates Christmas. How could you not get presents
on December twenty fifth or have Santa Claus or something
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like that. And there are places in the in the
world that do not celebrate Father's Day, which I remember
being flabber gas did at that. Well, how do the
dads in other parts of the world, How do they
know that they are loved? Where do they get their
stupid little you know, cardboard tie from or the little
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crafts that your kids make at the last day of school?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Do your kids still now that they're grown? Do they
you'll get like a text or something, or do they
are their cards?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Involved? Are their gifts?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We'll see?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Oh okay, well what happened last year?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Do you even remember.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, yeah, no, I think what happened last year. We
usually have friends over that that have kids in the
same age range, so those kids don't their kids don't
care either. So we'll come over and we'll, you know,
have dinner together and commiserate. But I don't know, we'll see.
I'll be on the road on Sunday, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
There was an article in Vox that I stumbled across
this morning. It is the Silent Seething Relationship Killer. Oh,
we've made jokes about this. Everyone's made a joke about this.
But is it to be joked about something about your
spouse that may bother you, may be indicative of something
much bigger. Something that seems to be innocuous may be
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a sign of a much bigger problem. Is it that
constant breathing that they always do. It's close, damn close.
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty man.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The details from this sole survivor of the plane crash yesterday.
I can't get enough of what he's saying because it's
just mind blowing that he was able to survive this crash.
He says, I saw people dying in front of my eyes,
the air hostesses. I saw two people near me. I
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walked out of the rubble. I don't know how I survived.
I managed to unbuckle myself. Emergency exit door next to
him was not there any longer. He said, he didn't
have to jump out. He just kind of walked through.
I used my leg to push through the opening, crawled out,
walked away.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And walked away. That's just the amazing part. Yeah, walked away,
not even significantly.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
We are following the stories out of the Middle East.
More air raid sirens have soundered across now northern Israel.
Iran has apparently fired a second barrage of missiles towards Israel.
There have been several explosions heard near Tel Aviv. Israeli
military and media are reporting nine impacts in or around
Tel Aviv from the Iranian missiles that were that were fired.
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So Iran itself says that there were hundreds of missiles
that were launched towards Israel.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Tonight, the Dodgers take on the Giants Dodger Stadium, first
pitch at seven. Listen to all Dodger games on AM
five seventy LA Sports live from the Gallpin Motors Broadcast
booth and stream all Dodgers games INHD on the iHeartRadio
app Keyword AM five seventy LA Sports is l GBTQ
plus Pride Night.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
By the way, I don't know if the Dodgers do this,
but the Giants last weekend or whatever, they had a
the Rainbow logo on the inside of their the Rainbow
flag on the inside of their logo. I don't know
if the Dodgers are going to do that, and I
don't know how many teams actually do that. You've ever
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been Have you ever been envious of someone?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Sure you want what they have?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Have you ever been jealous?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Probably as a youth, as a younger person jealous or
I realized that and envying somebody and being jealous if
someone doesn't do any good.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Jealousy is the fear of losing what you have, maybe
to someone, to someone else. But those are those are
very common. Those are not what's going to kill a relationship. No,
the real cancer for the relationship the R word resentment.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Resentment and how does it rear its ugly head.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, it's when you start getting annoyed by your partners chewing.
When you hear them chewing, it's not about the chewing,
It's about the resentment you feel towards that person. What
if it is based in something though it's based in
your resentment, Well, what if there was an action or
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activity that that actually happened that you then can't get over.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's a resentment. So but they make it sound as
if some of it is just based in nothing. Some
of it is just it's a time. You know, you
you're worn down after a while, and you resent that
person for just being there constantly, or getting in your
way in the kitchen, or not picking up their underwear
on the side of the day.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But see, it's all about those nothing things that are
indicative of something bigger.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh uh oh okay, Like it's not sounds like you
got something.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well when you say you resenting, yeah we do.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
When you say it's about nothing, but you resent that
person for just being there and getting in the way
of things, it's about something, you know, and it could
be something you're not even aware of. Maybe you resent
something in your relationship that happened twenty five years ago
and you just it just still lies there, dormant, and
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it comes out in the form of you being annoyed
about their chewing well.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Without without doing the work. And I mean that in
the therapy way to get over something. How could you
possibly ever really be over something? And I listen, I'm
thinking of I know people who've remained married after cheating,
and the resentment that you would have, even if that
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was ten years ago and you dealt with it and
you talked through it, it's still there.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
How would you ever be able.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
To extract that from without a memory wipe? How do
you completely get that out of your head?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And then how do you explain this? I'm at the
theater last week.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Was this a real story?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh yes, I told you were doing work today.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well, I don't know how much work is going to
be done. I'm at the theater last week and I'm
sort of laying there over there, and sure, I'll lay
on the couch and a woman sits next to me.
I don't know this woman. I have no resentments about
her until she starts eating and she's shoveling that popcorn
in her mouth like someone's gonna come take it from her.
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And it was loud and it was gross, and I
could like hear her her saliva almost like you know
that it was.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
It was a real problem for me.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
And I've never had a problem with people eating popcorn
next to me in a theater, but now I do.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Now there's something there.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And she's done nothing to me. She hasn't cheated on me,
She's done nothing wrong. I have no resentments against a
strange woman. But I can't listen to her too. I
can't listen to her eat. I'm about to lose it.
It doesn't need to be that loud, or she didn't
need to eat that fast. Why she have to eat
so fast?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
No one's taken that popcorn away from you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Your husband's not. He's next to you, or whatever gentleman
you brought with you. He's probably just as annoyed.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, there's a couple of things. As your therapist, I
would say that's more annoyance than it is resentment, because resentment,
I know, I don't resent, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
There's no resentment there. So I'm just annoyed by her chewing.
How Come I can't just be annoyed with my husband's chewing?
Why does it have to have a deeper meaning, I
guess is what my point is like you're trying to
I know, I'm just saying, listen, it's your wife. When
I'm thinking of, oh, she's annoyed by your chewing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
What you don't know this, it's a hard way to
find out.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
It's just it's funny.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's like it's it kind of when I read this,
it kind of just it's not really about the chewing.
It kind of goes back to our our tried and
true trope that it sometimes it's not about the milk.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
You know, it doesn't have to be the chewing. It
It can be like why why didn't you pick up
the milk?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Where?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Why do we have no milk?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Which is indicative of not about the milk, it's something
else going on or whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
But I just thought it was very deep seated, long term, right.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But I thought this was funny because the chewing, I
think everybody knows something is knows somebody who's sensitive to chewing,
to some to other people's eating. And and I didn't
know why I was that person until I went to
the theater. But that they that they're saying that that's
indicative of something much.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Bigger that well, they talk about where does resentment come from?
And a lot of times we think of it in
the romantic sense, like you and and your your boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever, anybody.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
But it could be anybody.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
You could resent the trash driver.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It could be co workers, Yeah, yes, coworkers.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I think the most would be co workers, partners, friends, family, colleagues, neighbors,
even or random strangers next to you eating popcorn in
the movies.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Because you've choosen to live with the person that you're
that you live with, that you're married to, what have you.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
But you work with people for several decades.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And things like I can build up a little bit
and you don't necessarily address them because you're not in
a relationship with those people.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So the resentment just kind of festers. It is funny
that they refer to resentment that grows into contempt. You
ever had that you ever had resentment that you had
just hold this person in complete contempt?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Well, it's kind of like you and the Woody Show, right, No, oh.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
No, wait what you try to start a fight now,
woll I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
There was that whole thing about you being a d
years ago, ten years ago now, and then.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Because somebody thought that I was. I know that you
keep telling me that I'm not. You're not.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I don't think you are. I just hope that that
that that narrative doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They do.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
They resent me because they think I am a thee
I hope not.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's what I'm saying. I think we squashed that though.
You talked to Woody. We talked to Woody the other day.
Everything's fine, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And we both worked with Genet grad and Morgan was
here for a long time and they're both now on
the show.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Right unless they also hate, that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Is very possible. Well, I resent the hate.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I think we're making everything about us again.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
That's why I resent.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Hey, we've got Disney tickets to give away in the
next hour, so you're gonna have to keep.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It right here hating us.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Also, what you learned this week on The Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Leave us a talk back and tell us what you
learned this week while you've been listening to this absolute
resentable mess. Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You
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Speaker 3 (34:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Nineteen seventy six is our Flashback Friday year for no
great reason other than there's good music.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I've got a.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Neighbor who calls his wife, who's also my neighbor, the
little muffin, and he.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Says it a lot. You go, oh, the little muffin.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What does he call her like when he's beckoning her
or commanding her color muffin?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think, really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I just I feel like that's and I think it's adorable.
It's very cute for them, But I think it should
be a then thing, you know, like inside the house
thing shmoopy. Yeah, the little muffin? How cute is that?
What do you call your wife? Here's the thing I
don't often use. I don't have to get her attention.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't go hey or snap my fingers, which is awful. Yeah,
don't do that. I found that out the hard way.
I call her Shannon, but she says, I don't say
it very often.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, it's jarring. It is jarring.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I say it four hours a day, and she said, yeah,
but you don't say it to me. It's different.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
She prefers you to use her name.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't like it when I when I hear somebody
use my name, I feel like I'm in trouble. Aside
from the show, I feel like it's a trouble situation.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, let's jump right into a swamp watch. We got
some developing news out of the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders
are dumb.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
The other side never quit, so what what.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm not going anywhere so that the squat I can
imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
You know, Americans have always been gone all.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Whether people voted for you were not swamp launch, They're
all counted on.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
According to ABC News and some other outlets in the
Middle East, Israel launched the dozens of strikes against Iran
early and now Iran has responded with some amount of
missiles that have been detected launched towards Israel. The saving grace,
I suppose, is that they are far enough apart. It
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takes a long time for those missiles to get to
to Israel from Iran. A couple of live shots that
exist now in Tel Aviv, and you can see what
appeared to be either aircraft or missiles moving through the
sky there. But again, this is this just came in
a few minutes ago, that Israel has detected that Iran
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has launched missiles towards Israel in what was anticipated as
a reaction to the massive attack that Israel foisted upon Iran.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Just overnight, Trump is meeting with the National Security Council.
Several high ranking Iranian military leaders obviously killed in those attacks.
We named at least three of them. The President knew
about Israel's plans to strike, obviously, so Iron no longer
planning to engage in any sort of nuclear talks with us.
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They were set to happen, by the way, this weekend
Sunday in Oman.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Talk suspended indefinitely.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No one's coming to the table because, as you could imagine,
it seems like this is all done with the blessing
of the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
The specifics of the attack, Israel's attack on Iran are
pretty amazing in terms of how widespread the attacks were
throughout the country, who they targeted, and what they targeted.
They were basically in dozens, dozens of different places that
Israel was able to attack, several leaders, like you said,
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military leaders, but also leaders of the nuclear program there
in Iran that have now been killed. And then the
locations several nuclear facilities, some that were relatively easy to
get to and others that may have been a couple
hundred feet underground. We know that Massad was able to
bring missiles into Iran undercover and use those missiles from
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within the country as part of that attack last night.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We have been working to reach a deal with Iran
for weeks on a nuclear agreement. Israel's ambition, in the
New York Times, is to destroy the heart of Iran's
nuclear program.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Iran fell a foul of the.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
UN's rules when it comes to nuclear programs just one
day before the attack began. Then the question is, does
Iran ever listen to anyone or back down from developing
or maintaining its nuclear program.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They've broken promises for every turn. Again.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The update just a few minutes ago is that the
Israeli Defense forces have sent an initial warning to all
civilians in the country to take shelter. Iranian missiles are
apparently making their way to Israeli territory.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Is it just a case of suffering setbacks of delivering
them setbacks to their nuclear program? Is that the endgame
here is there's no way they're going to just stop
developing nuclear weapons. But if we attack them, or Israel
attacks them, at least they'll be set back years.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, the way Israel has done this, look at their
attitude towards Hamas. They have not stopped the devastation in Gaza.
They say they won't stop until Amas is completely eradicated.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's what they've said.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The Israeli's all also said just last week that they
will not accept a nuclear armed Iran. And with the
fact that they were days or maybe a couple of
weeks away from enriching to the point that they could
have nuclear weapons that double middle finger that I told
you about when the IAEA came out and said Iran
continues to break promises, and then Iran said yeah, and
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we're also going to open a new enrichment facility.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Iran finally had to pull the trigger on it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And if it's true that they're talking about they have
a war plan for fourteen days, there's going to be
nothing left. So I think it goes beyond what they
believe would be just a setback or a pause and
saying we're going to destroy all of the infrastructure that
exists around the nuclear program.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Of course, oil price has become a part of the
conversation when we've got this going on in that area
of the world. Where oil prices go from here depends
on how Iran responds to these attacks. According to analysts,
that prices could climb further if Iran attacks energy infrastructure
or US bases in the area. It looks like our
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oil companies and big producers in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia,
things like that not looking to ramp up production quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
So oil prices could be a real.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Issue, especially when the Trump administration has a goal of
lowering energy costs to keep that inflation in check, which
it has.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
With all of this going on, The United States is
moving a couple of destroyers towards the Eastern Mediterranean. The
Pentagon says they are capable of defending against ballistic and
cruise missile attacks. They were already in that area, but
have rerouted to be available if necessary. So something that
we will keep an eye on throughout the weekend.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
All right, coming up next, a thirty two hour flight.
Could you imagine this? Your you bord a flight a
three hour flight, by the way, a little more than
three hours, three hours and some change, and you end
up on a thirty two hour flight.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What does that sound like to you?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
H double hockey sticks?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I was going to say tear in the skies.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Also, so we're not using the word hell on the
program anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, we need to.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
There was also a story that suggests that Americans curse
more than any other country.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I've really got to start working on that. Okay,
I actually have been doing pretty good lately. Okay, do
you think outside of these four hours? I don't know,
but I've heard a lot of words you have. Yeah,
what are you so innocent?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I don't think I've been swearing a lot lately.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But let me also point out there are things that
you say that you don't even know you say until
after you've said.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, and then sometimes not even then.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, we've got air raid sirens sounding in Jerusalem, Israel
saying Aron has fired missiles. At least one explosion heard
in the distance. As the skies are lighting up there
in Tel.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Aviv, you can see not only there's at least one
missile strike appears in central Tel Aviv. There were defense
missiles going the other way from the ground to the
air as well. But there is smoke rising up from
the central area around Tel Aviv, reports of impacts somewhere.
They don't know exactly what was targeted or if it
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was just kind of a random thing and just headed
towards the center of Tel Aviv.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
They say dozens of incoming missiles have been detected there,
according to the Israeli military officials.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
This, of course, in response to Israel's attack on Iran
overnight that hit hundreds of sites, two hundred different targets,
including several of the nuclear facilities that Ron has been
working on, and military leaders and leaders of the nuclear program.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, we've got a thirty two hour flight, which lends
itself to terror in this guy, fight is.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Zero Nior, You're a clay every day.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Off Roger, get off my plane, Roderick Rodgers, what's our vector, Victor?
I have handed with these multi pint and snakes on
this money.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the skies on KFI.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
All right.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I said this was a three hour and change flight.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's actually a two hour and change flight from Zurich
to Crete, Zurk, Switzerland, Crete, Greece. This was a plane
carrying one hundred and thirty seven passengers, six crew members
and again the flight was supposed to take just under
three hours, but then came the extreme weather conditions, so.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They had strong winds.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Takeoffs and landings at the Harraclayon Airport on Crete only
possible to a limited extent, so to several attempts to land,
the flight was unable to operate as plan. They had
to be diverted several times, including a night stop in
Thessalona say it again, Thessalonic Higher Saloni.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Key, before finally returning to Zurich. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Refreshments and drinks were served for all guests by the
crew in the galley. Some passengers complained that they weren't
given many refreshments. Some reportedly vomited during one of the
attempt at approach.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Do you imagine five times you try to stop that
you even stopped for overnight. I mean, I had one
flight that I've talked about before. It was from Sacramento
to Burbank and it was in the winter. It was January,
February or something went up for my nephew's rugby game,
and it totally crazy winds at Burbank, it's raining. Tried
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to land, winds were too strong, don't even touch the runway,
but got close and then took right back off, made
another pass, tried to land again, and that was it.
It took right back off again, made another circle, landed
back at Sacramento International all the way to Burbank.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Couldn't land twice. It went back to Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
You could even probably see your car from.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Exactly and that was a little frustrating, but I'm glad
that they acted out of an abundance of caution. It's
a short runway there, the whole bit. But thirty two hours,
my god, Well, who doesn't I mean, is anybody up
in arms? I'm surprised we haven't heard reports from people
freaking out like, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What are we doing here? Land anywhere? Land anywhere?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
According to Business Insider, the flight circled off the coast
of Crete six times before a U turn and then
turn around to land in Athens. They made four stops,
endured an overnight's day in Thessalon Kai during a thirty
two hour travel time, stopped in Athens a second time,
and in coasts before going You know what they just said.
They threw it in there, threw up their hands, forget it,
We're just going back to Zurich. Never mind, good lord,
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you geta ridden a bike there quicker?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Where would you go if if you had to endure
a thirty two hour flight? What would you endure a
thirty two hour flight for? Where do you love so
much much that you would spend thirty two hours on
a flight to get to?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I don't know if there is such a place.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Maybe if you were somewhere and you just said, bet,
you haven't been home for a long time and you
just wanted to go home, probably that would probably be it.
We lasted thirty two hours in an airport one time.
It wasn't thirty eight felt like it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We got to the airport at eleven or twelve, but
didn't take off until about twelve.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh, thegether in noon.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't think we took off until midnight. Gary and
Shannon will continue the forgotten history of Father.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh this is great Father's Day. Who knew it came
with such controversy? It started with a mine explosion?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Who knew? Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We are staying on top of all of the action
as Run launches retaliatory missiles tour to Israel. Several missiles
have been detected, according to Israeli military officials.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And we knew this was coming.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
We knew there was going to be some type of
retaliation for what we saw happen yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Iran itself says that hundreds of missiles have been launched
towards Israel. We don't know exactly if there's a specific
target that they have in mind or targets. Some of
the live cameras that exist in and around Tel Aviv,
you can see at least three impacts of missiles in
what appears to be sort of the downtown Tel Aviv
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area and originally some of the reports on Fox and
CNN had suggested that there were no known injuries at
this point. But again, it's about nine thirty at night
Israel time, and this is going to be a long
night for them as they deal with again Iran saying
hundreds of missiles that have been launched towards Israel.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The Ayatola has vowed revel and a recorded message to
the nation this hour as well the State News Agency
saying that this is all part of their response to
the attack on Iranian nuclear and military sites, all trying
to get a Ran to abandon its nuclear program or
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at least play by the rules.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And it has not wanted to do so.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, it's gonna be a long weekend. I know you
have things going on.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, I just I mean, all of this stuff that's
happening is on top of other normal life stuff, and
I guess this is normal life.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Father's Day wasn't always a thing Mother's Day started at all,
but the first Father's Day was actually.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Nineteen oh eight, if I remember correctly, fourteen for Mother's
Day nineteen fourteen, Okay. Men in the early nineteen hundreds
associated a tribute with women and found the idea of
a day for men too effeminate for their liking.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, insinuating that men had anything to do with parenting,
with rearing the children was considered a taboo situation that
that's not manly enough for them to rear children.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
That's what mothers do. And so that was kind of
the feeling amongst men.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
The idea that there would be flowers or brunches or
anything of that nature was just ridiculous to men at
the time.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So it was largely just ignored or even poop pooed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Funny because I don't know a lot of to that end.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know a lot of dudes who are like, yeah,
I can't wait to celebrate Father's Day where I have
to cook. Oh, because you're grilling. I was talking to
a guy last night. He was like, yeah, I get,
but his caveat is he'll cook. He just gets to
choose what and how. So he has a smoker and
he's talking about, you know, the different cuts of meat,
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which ones he's going to smoke for twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So in the article I was looking at yesterday, they
say Mother's Day has roots dating back actually to the
eighteen sixties, that Father's Day took a few more decades
to catch on history dot com sites a florist who
suggested that fathers haven't had the same sentimental appeal that
mothers had. The first documented event to explicitly honor fathers
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was held at a West Virginia church July fifth, nineteen
oh eight. Now, this initial Father's Day celebration in nineteen
oh eight was dedicated to the memory of three hundred
and sixty two men who had died six months before
and explosions at a coal company, but that did not
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become an annual event just that The following year, a
woman by the name of Sonora Smart Dodd attempted to
create the equivalent of a Mother's Day for male parents
in Spokane, Washington.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
She was one of six children raised.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
By a widower, and this first statewide Father's Day was
celebrated there in Washington June nineteenth, nineteen ten, two years
after President Woodrow Wilson issued a proclamation for the first
Mother's Day, he honored the day by using telegraph signals
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to inferl a flag in Spokane, and then in nineteen
twenty four, President Calvin Coolidge encouraged state governments to observe
Father's Day. But one historian cited in history dot Com
wrote that many men scoffed at this. The holiday's sentimental
attempts to domesticate manliness was how it was described, with
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the flowers and the gift giving and all of that.
To Kate Manling, that they saw these holidays as a
commercial gimmick to sell more products.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And how wise they were.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's what all of this crap is all about, they said,
often paid for, to your point, by the father himself.
The father is the head of the household back then,
and for a very long time, He's the one buying
the things for Mother's Day. He's the one buying things.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
For all the.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Holidays that are there just for you to buy things, right,
Why add another one to his bank roll or what
have you. In the nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties, there
was a movement to do away with Mother's Day and
Father's Day and instead celebrate a single holiday, which was
called to be called Parents' Day. There were demonstrations in
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Central Park at the time, a reminder that both parents
should be loved and respected together.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
There were demonstrations about this. But then the great, the
good old days, when demonstrations were about him combining mothers
and Father's days.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The Great Depression, they say, proved to be a major
obstacle struggling businesses framed Father's Day as a second Christmas
for men, and then when World War II began, the
holiday was promoted to support the war effort and honor
American troops. Now that strategy gained widespread support by the
war's end, I mean what didn't gain support? And World
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War two times to honor the people that fought. But
it wasn't until nineteen seventy two that President Nixon signed
a proclamation to make Father's Day a federal holiday.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Why does the government have to be involved with it? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Father's Day earned this level of recognition fifty eight years
after Mother's Day. Fifty eight years after the government recognized
Mother's Day, they recognized Father's Day.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I know that Major League Baseball does a big deal
about Mother's Day and Father's Day. Obviously that falls those
fall within the season, so on Mother's Day we can end.
They do a big deal about breast cancer awareness and
breast cancer research funding, where a lot of the players
wear pink cleats or they use pink bats. Or and
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in fact they I don't remember if they did it
this year, but they'll wear pink logos, not the entire uniform,
but just the lettering sometimes on their jerseys would be pink.
And then for Father's Day they do a light blue
for prostate cancer awareness, some more common cancer among men diseases.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Aside, it's obvious what moms do, right, I mean, usually
fathers are seen as you know, the head of the
household when it comes to financial things, or at least
historically that has been the case.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That has changed dramatically.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But you know, for all the stories we do about
serial killers and the like, with no fathers here.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It comes oh, okay, they're gonna say, because they're all men. No, okay,
why would I do?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I seem like that kind of person.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know, the importance of having a father and being
a father is also asked and answered, right it should.
Mother's Day seems like there's so much seriousness around it,
where Father's Day is kind of like, eh, you girls,
some hot dogs whatever, watch the baseball game. I mean,
it's very important to be a father. It's like be
a father, not just you know, dedicate your sperm to a.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Woman, not just donate not just donate it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You know, But like all the problem, all the societal
problems that happened with lack of dad's being dads or
just you know.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's also something I enjoy about and Father's Day kind
of points it out to me. The naivete that we
grow up with. We assume everybody in the world does
the same things we do. So if your family celebrates
Christmas for the first few years of your life, you
assume everybody celebrates Christmas. How could you not get presents
on December twenty fifth or have Santa Claus or something
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like that. And there are places in the in the
world that do not celebrate Father's Day, which I remember
being flabber gas did at that. Well, how do the
dads in other parts of the world, How do they
know that they are loved? Where do they get their
stupid little you know, cardboard tie from or the little
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crafts that your kids make at the last day of school?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Do your kids still now that they're grown? Do they
you'll get like a text or something, or do they
are their cards?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Involved? Are their gifts?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We'll see?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Oh okay, well what happened last year?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Do you even remember.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, yeah, no, I think what happened last year. We
usually have friends over that that have kids in the
same age range, so those kids don't their kids don't
care either. So we'll come over and we'll, you know,
have dinner together and commiserate. But I don't know, we'll see.
I'll be on the road on Sunday, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
There was an article in Vox that I stumbled across
this morning. It is the Silent Seething Relationship Killer. Oh,
we've made jokes about this. Everyone's made a joke about this.
But is it to be joked about something about your
spouse that may bother you, may be indicative of something
much bigger. Something that seems to be innocuous may be
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a sign of a much bigger problem. Is it that
constant breathing that they always do. It's close, damn close.
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty man.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The details from this sole survivor of the plane crash yesterday.
I can't get enough of what he's saying because it's
just mind blowing that he was able to survive this crash.
He says, I saw people dying in front of my eyes,
the air hostesses. I saw two people near me. I
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walked out of the rubble. I don't know how I survived.
I managed to unbuckle myself. Emergency exit door next to
him was not there any longer. He said, he didn't
have to jump out. He just kind of walked through.
I used my leg to push through the opening, crawled out,
walked away.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And walked away. That's just the amazing part. Yeah, walked away,
not even significantly.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
We are following the stories out of the Middle East.
More air raid sirens have soundered across now northern Israel.
Iran has apparently fired a second barrage of missiles towards Israel.
There have been several explosions heard near Tel Aviv. Israeli
military and media are reporting nine impacts in or around
Tel Aviv from the Iranian missiles that were that were fired.
(25:38):
So Iran itself says that there were hundreds of missiles
that were launched towards Israel.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Tonight, the Dodgers take on the Giants Dodger Stadium, first
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Speaker 2 (26:01):
By the way, I don't know if the Dodgers do this,
but the Giants last weekend or whatever, they had a
the Rainbow logo on the inside of their the Rainbow
flag on the inside of their logo. I don't know
if the Dodgers are going to do that, and I
don't know how many teams actually do that. You've ever
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been Have you ever been envious of someone?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Sure you want what they have?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Have you ever been jealous?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Probably as a youth, as a younger person jealous or
I realized that and envying somebody and being jealous if
someone doesn't do any good.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Jealousy is the fear of losing what you have, maybe
to someone, to someone else. But those are those are
very common. Those are not what's going to kill a relationship. No,
the real cancer for the relationship the R word resentment.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Resentment and how does it rear its ugly head.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, it's when you start getting annoyed by your partners chewing.
When you hear them chewing, it's not about the chewing,
It's about the resentment you feel towards that person. What
if it is based in something though it's based in
your resentment, Well, what if there was an action or
(27:20):
activity that that actually happened that you then can't get over.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's a resentment. So but they make it sound as
if some of it is just based in nothing. Some
of it is just it's a time. You know, you
you're worn down after a while, and you resent that
person for just being there constantly, or getting in your
way in the kitchen, or not picking up their underwear
on the side of the day.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But see, it's all about those nothing things that are
indicative of something bigger.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh uh oh okay, Like it's not sounds like you
got something.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Well when you say you resenting, yeah we do.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
When you say it's about nothing, but you resent that
person for just being there and getting in the way
of things, it's about something, you know, and it could
be something you're not even aware of. Maybe you resent
something in your relationship that happened twenty five years ago
and you just it just still lies there, dormant, and
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it comes out in the form of you being annoyed
about their chewing well.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Without without doing the work. And I mean that in
the therapy way to get over something. How could you
possibly ever really be over something? And I listen, I'm
thinking of I know people who've remained married after cheating,
and the resentment that you would have, even if that
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was ten years ago and you dealt with it and
you talked through it, it's still there.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
How would you ever be able.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
To extract that from without a memory wipe? How do
you completely get that out of your head?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And then how do you explain this? I'm at the
theater last week.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Was this a real story?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh yes, I told you were doing work today.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well, I don't know how much work is going to
be done. I'm at the theater last week and I'm
sort of laying there over there, and sure, I'll lay
on the couch and a woman sits next to me.
I don't know this woman. I have no resentments about
her until she starts eating and she's shoveling that popcorn
in her mouth like someone's gonna come take it from her.
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And it was loud and it was gross, and I
could like hear her her saliva almost like you know
that it was.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
It was a real problem for me.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
And I've never had a problem with people eating popcorn
next to me in a theater, but now I do.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Now there's something there.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And she's done nothing to me. She hasn't cheated on me,
She's done nothing wrong. I have no resentments against a
strange woman. But I can't listen to her too. I
can't listen to her eat. I'm about to lose it.
It doesn't need to be that loud, or she didn't
need to eat that fast. Why she have to eat
so fast?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
No one's taken that popcorn away from you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Your husband's not. He's next to you, or whatever gentleman
you brought with you. He's probably just as annoyed.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, there's a couple of things. As your therapist, I
would say that's more annoyance than it is resentment, because resentment,
I know, I don't resent, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
There's no resentment there. So I'm just annoyed by her chewing.
How Come I can't just be annoyed with my husband's chewing?
Why does it have to have a deeper meaning, I
guess is what my point is like you're trying to
I know, I'm just saying, listen, it's your wife. When
I'm thinking of, oh, she's annoyed by your chewing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
What you don't know this, it's a hard way to
find out.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
It's just it's funny.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's like it's it kind of when I read this,
it kind of just it's not really about the chewing.
It kind of goes back to our our tried and
true trope that it sometimes it's not about the milk.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
You know, it doesn't have to be the chewing. It
It can be like why why didn't you pick up
the milk?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Where?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Why do we have no milk?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Which is indicative of not about the milk, it's something
else going on or whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
But I just thought it was very deep seated, long term, right.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But I thought this was funny because the chewing, I
think everybody knows something is knows somebody who's sensitive to chewing,
to some to other people's eating. And and I didn't
know why I was that person until I went to
the theater. But that they that they're saying that that's
indicative of something much.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Bigger that well, they talk about where does resentment come from?
And a lot of times we think of it in
the romantic sense, like you and and your your boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever, anybody.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
But it could be anybody.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
You could resent the trash driver.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It could be co workers, Yeah, yes, coworkers.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I think the most would be co workers, partners, friends, family, colleagues, neighbors,
even or random strangers next to you eating popcorn in
the movies.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Because you've choosen to live with the person that you're
that you live with, that you're married to, what have you.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
But you work with people for several decades.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And things like I can build up a little bit
and you don't necessarily address them because you're not in
a relationship with those people.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So the resentment just kind of festers. It is funny
that they refer to resentment that grows into contempt. You
ever had that you ever had resentment that you had
just hold this person in complete contempt?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Well, it's kind of like you and the Woody Show, right, No, oh.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
No, wait what you try to start a fight now,
woll I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
There was that whole thing about you being a d
years ago, ten years ago now, and then.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Because somebody thought that I was. I know that you
keep telling me that I'm not. You're not.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I don't think you are. I just hope that that
that that narrative doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They do.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
They resent me because they think I am a thee
I hope not.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's what I'm saying. I think we squashed that though.
You talked to Woody. We talked to Woody the other day.
Everything's fine, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And we both worked with Genet grad and Morgan was
here for a long time and they're both now on
the show.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Right unless they also hate, that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Is very possible. Well, I resent the hate.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I think we're making everything about us again.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
That's why I resent.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Hey, we've got Disney tickets to give away in the
next hour, so you're gonna have to keep.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It right here hating us.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Also, what you learned this week on The Gary and
Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Leave us a talk back and tell us what you
learned this week while you've been listening to this absolute
resentable mess. Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You
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