April 23, 2025 • 29 mins
Trump proposes significant reductions in tariffs on China as part of a trade deal. Pope Francis' coffin has been transported to St. Peter's Basilica in a solemn procession. KFI’s Michael Monks reports that Los Angeles will monitor the homeless budget after $513 million went unspent. Lori Vallow Daybell, known as the 'Doomsday mom,' has been convicted in connection with the death of her fourth husband.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. It's rare I go to Starbucks,
but today I did this morning and.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Then put a creature.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
There was no creature.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It said hi, just high, no exclamation point, just h I,
which I thought was kind of creepy because I've gotten hearts,
and I've gotten high exclamation point and I've gotten a
happy face. But this was the first time I just
said hi, no punctuity, no punctuation, and it felt a
little serial killer e to me. However, the woman at
the window said, here you go, sweetie, and I loved that.
(00:37):
I want to start off every morning with some stranger
calling me sweetie.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
That is very funny because yesterday on Fox News Channel
there was a whole blow up. Randy Weingarten, the head
of the Teachers Union the National Teachers Union, referred to
Martha McCallum as sweetheart, and Martha McCallum hated it. Now
granted situation, she was being super condescending. Martha McCollums like, uh,
you know, call me sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
See, but that makes it worse for her. When someone
calls you sweetheart, you got to just laugh it off.
Steve Gregor used to do that. Oh sweetheart, you just
gotta laugh it off.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
If you take umbrage with it, if you take issue
with it, then you are.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The the lily makes it worse. You know, we should
do that as a talkback. Actually is what is your
love it?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I love movie called sweetheart?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Sweetie doesn't have to be Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But in a place where they ask your name, do
you give him your real name or do you give
him something like now?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I mean, since they have a high on your head.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I have a real hard time with people who use
fake names like you seem like the kind of person
that would do that. You do that with your stupid
email addresses and stupid stuff like you're very private?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I know, but why who the hell are you? What
I mean, who are you? Why would you hide your identity.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because I didn't want to be found out.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
People like Starbucks like Dave Bruce just tell him Bruce, tell.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Him name because they want to hear their they want
to hear the barista call out a funny name.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I agree. I'm just saying there are plenty of people
who do it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You don't do it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You've never done that.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I don't think I've ever used a fake name kick
or like at a hotel or whatever. I'm sorry for
profiling you incorrectly.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Very strange. Listen, I like your outfit. Thanks. President Trump
has said has said.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Maybe he is ready to pull back on some of
those tariffs on China.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
One hundred and forty five percent is very high, and
it won't be that high.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's not going to be that high.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It'll come down to substay and three. But it won't
be zero. He used to be zero.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We were just destroyed.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
China was taking us for a ride and just not
gonna have It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So the Wall Street Journal got on this and said
that the plan that is likely going to happen mirror
is one that was introduced by the House late last year.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
This would be a tiered approach.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Thirty five percent levees items that are not considered a
threat to national security, but at least one hundred percent
on those that are eased down over five years. One
White House official told the Wall Street Journal the result
would be an overall tariff somewhere between a China tariff
roughly between fifty and sixty five percent.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So that's the endgame that we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I still find it fascinating that Wall Street reacts to
all the whims of this president. And I guess you
have to because he is a president of the United States. Sure,
you're reacting to the title making these calls, not the
person behind the title, because we have said said from
go that this is not tenable.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
This is not a tenable situation.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, and if Scott Bessen, I mean, if the Secretary
of the Treasury says these exact same words and he
has it doesn't make a tenth the impact on Wall
Street that it does when a president says it. Now,
other presidents had been more careful and measured when it
comes to things like talking about the Fed Reserve chair
or something like that, because they know that it could
(04:05):
have an impact significantly on Wall Street and the way
people view American stocks and bonds.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Trump's also said he didn't feel the need to play
hardball with Hi Jinping.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
This is yeah, that language is just hey, we're just
friends having a little bit of a dispute here over what.
But then he'll talk about how it feels like China
has been taking advantage of the United States for decades,
which which is very different then, but we don't have
to be we don't have to get we don't have
to be nasty to it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's such a tactic, right, you come out and you're
super nasty, and then you dial back again, leaving the
door open for maybe a friendship, hoping to lure that
person into the cave of negotiation.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yea. Then it gives you.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
The card to play like, well, friends don't treat each
other like this, right, we're friends, you know. A healthy
competition is the way we should be going. Right, There
is something that kind of happening on the back end.
It's very quiet that's going on in DC, but it
could potentially signal the opening of talks, sort of the
opening round the capital of China. Beijing has sent People's
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Bank of China's governor, his deputy, and a finance minister.
Those three guys are all in DC this week and
they are going to be hosting meetings of the World
Bank Group and the International Monetary Fund. They're saying simply
because we will see high level Chinese officials with high
level American officials in the same place at the same time.
(05:35):
Maybe that's sort of an exchange of the contours of it,
of an agreement at some point, So maybe that maybe
there is progress.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I am cracking up over the media coverage of the
Pope's death. Everyone is suddenly a Catholic. Everybody cares about
the Catholics. Everybody treating this with the utmost reverence. People
talking about mike Langelo's Pieta, talking about the Chamber of
Deputies kneeling before the coffin, and the Italian Parliament lower house, and.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I understand that the eighty percent of this country is
church going, what percentage of that is Catholic?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know what I mean? And everyone's is acting like.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
This is just such the biggest deal, and they're trying
not to butcher the names and things that we don't
really care about.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's like the Catholic guilt has.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Permeated the entire country, like y'all that did sit through
it the way we all sat through it and feel
guilty over every single thing. Suddenly the Pope dies and
you're all getting a little dose of what we lived through.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Walking with the Rosary.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
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Speaker 6 (06:52):
Hey Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Hey Gary.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Question, did you we hear speedo under your clothes when
you had swim practice in the morning? Buddy, I'm just
curious day man.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The answer is no.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Can we unpack that for a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You haven't talked about being on the swim team in
high school for quite some time. That's ratnel around, rattle
in around in his brain. Ye, thinking about you and
your speedo. I would imagine that you brought your speedo
with you and he changed in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Before practice and then changed out of it. Well, yeah,
because it was wet. Yeah, I don't know what the guy,
I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't understand, but everyone's visualizing you as a teenager
great speedo underneath your street clothes.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
But to clarify, in practice, I would always wear multiple
I wore two or three excuse me, speedos and then
trunks over the top of it. Really create more drag,
big pockets and everything like that, so that when you
on when you'd have a meat, most of them on
Thursdays on Thursday afternoon, you would just wear your skit.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It wasn't just penis modesty.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, you put a lot of layers on top of
that thing, keep it safe, keep it away from the
public eye.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, I was fifteen, there probably was a little bit
of that. S mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Man, if I had one of those, I would totally
wear like sixteen speedos, probably into my mid twenties.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Latin chants have been sounding across the Vatican. This procession
of red hatted cardinals and bishops, et cetera accompanied Pope
Francis's body from his residency out to Saint Peter's Basilica.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Sy, you're a glam squad that goes along with.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Listen, I'm going to get in trouble, but I've paid
my dues. Is there a glam squad that goes along
with the body to touch up the powdering and the makeup.
I would assume that's a yes. You got to keep
that body looking freshly powdered.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, I I don't know how. I don't know what
sort of preservation is equipment, no spackle, spackling. You know
he died at the age of eighty eight. Yeah, and
it doesn't take long for the body to change very
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quickly in.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Depth.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How often are open caskets these days? Are they still
as common?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I don't, I don't. I don't know. That's a good question.
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I can't remember the last time I went to
an open casket.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I did one twenty years ago, probably soon after my
wife and I were married, so probably closer to twenty
five years ago. I was a good friend of ours,
someone I went to college with ended up being a
roommate of my of my now wife, sort of a
weird confluence of events.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But her younger brother was killed a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
How old twenty oh, god, twenty one, and and they
did an open casket and it was.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
A casket because of the injuries. Oh my god, that's awful.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And I just, I mean, I can, to this day
close my eyes and see john'son like, see the face.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh, it's just it's so sad.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
First of all, it's such an awful, heartbreaking because it's
a young guy, and it was a it was a
bad accident.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Didn't have to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It just awful, awful, awful, And then to see that
as part of the whole day.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Of the funeral is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I had gone to a lot of funerals. I mean
not a lot, but a fair amount in my childhood.
Older relatives had died. But I remember when my uncle died,
My uncle Harry, a massive heart attack, and he was
probably about your age, I want to say, he was
early fifties, and it was obviously a shock, a surprise.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He was a big guy, but.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Still, and I remember seeing him in they had an
open casket, and seeing him in the in that casket
and just losing it because he was so young and
I was twenty at the time, but it gave me
a sense of my parents' mortality at that point. And
it was terrifying because everyone else was in their eighties,
late seventies, eighties. They were ancient. You know, when you're
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growing up, it's ancient. But he, you know, dark hair Dad.
You know my cousins were on the same age, and
it was just awful.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
They say that the funeral itself will be on Saturday,
So if you're getting up early to watch it, it's
going to be I think one o'clock our time.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Are you going to get it?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Every Saturday morning?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You're gonna put on your robes?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
No, I mean, are your speedo, no, not even my
speedo to watch to watch the funeral?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is it gonna be in Latin? This is it's gotta
be in Latin, right, it's a pope's funeral. Although he
pooh pooed the Latin mass.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I don't know how they would do that.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They've got it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, I don't know the rules, but I would think,
let me look that up.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
There is also a memorial mass here in La they
say with it will honor the life and the ministry
Pope Francis. It's going to be Friday, of course, downtown
at the huge cathedral of Our Lady of Angels. The
Archdiocese of La has announced that the special service will
start just after noon on Friday, led by Archbishop hose
Ac Comes will also be joined by some auxiliary bishops
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and clergy of the Archdiocese of La. That's going to
be on Friday, and then the conclave. I mean, over
the next couple of weeks, we're going to do a
bunch of stories about the potential leaders in the clubhouse
when it comes to those bishops that could become the
next pope and how they want to run things and
if it is very different from what Pope Francis did.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As the pope for the last several years.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
My goodness, I'm just going through the protocol. And there's
a playbook for the funeral. Oh yeah, it's a twenty
page playbook. It's called the University Dominicis, which is Latin
for the shepherd of the Lord's whole flock.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, think of when the queen died, I mean, when
the queen or when the prince right, it's the same bit.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's the same bit. Is that part of our fascination
as a country.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I think that, Yes, I was going to say that,
I think that there is a certain amount of I
mean you're talking about everybody's been affected by this, Catholic
or not. There's something about us as big meat bags
that like to see some amount of history, tradition, and
some amount of tradition and pomp.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's it's science. We're biologically wired to be connected to
our past, Yeah, and to tradition like that, and.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
This tradition goes back a couple thousand years.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know what I would like to do. I'd like
to know you got really nervous with your face right there.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oftentimes, usually that question is answered with I'd.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Like to burn it down. I'd just like to burn it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I don't sound like candle shoot it first of all.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Shoot it and then burn it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I am coming from a positive place today, okay, And
I think that we need a tradition on this show.
This show has been around ten years, which is an eternity. Basically,
we've had traditions. What coming gone well, I'd like to
stick to at least one of them on the Thursday,
right right, you know, I don't know. I just feel
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like we don't pay homage to our traditions here on
this show.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Enough. Michael Monks is going to join us we come back.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Okay, Okay, we spend a lot of homeless money, and
then we also don't spend a lot of homeless money.
Five hundred some odd million dollars that was not spent,
and finally someone in city Hall goes, hey, uh, I
got an idea.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We maybe just like, look at where the money goes.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Michael Monks has been on top of this, and we'll
continue to follow all of the news regarding the whole
less out a City Hall Hill join us when we
come back.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Michael Monks has joined us because we continue to track
what's going on in downtown LA when it comes to
all the homeless dollars we have as voters have sent
this way towards the county or the city, and it
looks like yesterday the council called for analysis of the spending.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You would think that this would be done.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That the voters would approve a bond or a tax
or what have you, and that all of the money
would be accounted for and you'd know exactly where it
was going, and that's what you do when other people
give you their money.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Apparently that was not being done.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Now they've decided unanimously twelve nothing that they are going
to start doing this.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's right, and apologize.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I spoke before I was introduced that's a faux pas so,
but you were talking ice cream sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So no, everyone who as you are, come on.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
All right, I wouldn't note that.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yes, the council voted yesterday to say maybe we should,
I don't know, have a presentation every now and then
on where these moneies are going, because it's a lot
of money and apparently we don't actually know. So that
was the first thing they did. But there was also
an example of this playing out separate from this vote.
They voted on something else yesterday to get a better
handle on a program known as time limited Subsidies, and
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that is a government word for basically giving a market
rate apartment to a homeless person, subsidizing the rent, but
having that person in a program where they can be
rehabilitated and within a couple of years or so, be
able to pay for that apartment on their own. It
sounds like a pretty solid program, but they invested about
one hundred ninety four million dollars in this program, between
the City of the County and LASA and Councilman Nthia Rahman,
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who's a hardliner on homelessness stuff, as in she's in
favor of all of the programs and an apologist for
a lot of the programs. She says, of that one
hundred and ninety four million dollars, we have noticed that
we haven't spent a lot of it. We've only spent
somewhere between twenty five and sixty percent of it.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So that alone is a problem because.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
They don't know what they're doing with that.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're not spending all of the money that you've allocated
for this program. They say they don't have the you know,
the social workers, they don't have the landlord's willing to
rent the apartments.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
But to me, the bigger problem was, what do you
mean between twenty five and sixty percent?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Quite a swath it is, you know, it's not twenty
five to.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Thirty, you know, because they don't know what they're doing
with money. These aren't money people. These are people that
are our whorees that decided to get into politics to
benefit themselves. They they don't have any real money. They
don't know how to spend it. It's like giving a twenty
one year old athlete a multimillion dollar contract and saying
you've got all this money, go make great use of it.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And they're like, I don't know what to do with it.
That's what's happening at city council.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
They don't have anybody like Rick Caruso, for example, who
knows money to come in and triage the money situation.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And again, and I think we've even spent about it
together on this program, that if the results were obvious
and not just occasional presentations every year about how the
homeless population is dipped a percent or two, you know,
in raw numbers, I think people would be more forgiving,
you know, like, yeah, it's expensive to do this, but
the progress isn't right that you know. I have five
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new tents outside my apartment building this week. Skid row
has now come in bled out into the fashion district
and as of this week, five new tents that are
loud blocking the sidewalk, and it looks terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You're absolutely right if we saw some change, if we
saw them using the money correctly. Just give me a
couple examples and we'll publicize it all day long. If
you can show us constructive ways you've used the money,
that's been a proof for you to use for this problem.
Show us on the flip side, all we've seen is
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mismanagement and now them not even using the money because
they don't know how. I mean, it is such a
freaking mess.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's a big mess.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And this just calls for a report in sixty days
on how the money is being spent, and then they
are to do these reports every quarter about homeless dollars.
This includes spending by LASA, also by the Mayor's program
Inside Safe, which has had some relatively secretive finances, so
we'll maybe get to see a little bit more on this,
But again, this is a very expensive project. The city
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is now kind of on its own because they don't
have the county in partnership with them. As up next year,
the county has voted to leave the LA Homeless Service
Authority and do its own thing, and I haven't seen
the city come out with what its plan is.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
The number of homeless people was down this amount from
year to year twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
What do you think think about the number the amount
of money we're talking about. How many fewer homeless people
did we have from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you think percentage?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
No, sheer number of homeless people?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
No idea. Just take used out a couple of thousand.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Two hundred.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh, we've got two hundred people off the street allegedly.
And how many billions of dollars have we thrown at this?
I mean part of it is their complete head in
the sand reluctance to understand the problem of addiction. I
mean that that is something that needs to be dealt with.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I thought it was the first housing prices.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It is not it is not weird.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I thought, that's exactly what as.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Michael said, there's programs where they're getting people into homes.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's not the problem.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
That's what I thought yesterday as I pulled into my
parking lot and I saw all my new neighbors outside,
I thought, you know, if you didn't want to live
in a tent on the street, what do you need.
If you're a drug addict or a drunk, there's a
program for you. If you need help getting a job,
there is a program for you. If you need to
get your education, there is a program for you. And
if you need to be in a shelter, there is
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supposed to be a bed for you somewhere. So why
are you here on this street unless some degree, if
you get to.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
What you want to do in that tent.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But if you go into those programs and you've got
to do a bunch of things that you don't want
to do. When we live in a city that makes
it easy and looks the other way for people to do.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What they want to do, i e.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Crack and booze and everything that's bad for you, we
enable all of it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's what it looks like because blocking the sidewalk is
against the law. I mean, we talk about criminalizing homelessness,
and it's true that I think all of us have
our humanity still, Like you feel for the people who
are in the situation they're in, whether it's chosen or not,
that you wish their life could be a little bit better.
But they're making other people's lives worse by not allowing
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someone in a wheelchair to be able to get by. Thankfully,
we have a protected bike lane on my streets, so
we can step into that and not worry about being
run over.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But if you get run over by a bike. You
could get run over by a bike.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
But you can't walk on the sidewalk now because they
are all blocked by these massive tents which were being
erected at like three in the morning with power tools
and wood and rope.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, it's a whole it's a racket.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, they've got a whole situation going on.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
There's infrastructure, just the whole. We have compassion for the
homeless bull s, but if.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You try to build wants.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
To live in a tent? You know, I want to
live in a tent or you pick. It's this time
of year it's beautiful. I'd like to live in a
tent and zone out for a couple of months.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You couldn't set up a card table and sell Michael
Monk's branded homemade ice cream. I would, Gary, That's not
even something that I'm thinking about doing.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Why you could fire some of them to set up
your I could.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I bet they could find all the right ingredients.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But I mean, if if you really LA city leader,
La City leaders, if you truly have compassion for the homeless,
you would not be looking the other way. If I
got to do what part of me wants to do
and lived in a tent outside Michael Monks's place and
just do drugs and drink myself away for a couple months,
you know, I'd have people coming to get me because
they actually do have compassion for me.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I'd come for you. You could come upstairs, you
could come in.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
You've probably let me do my drugs in your place.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
If you shared.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
All you guys are friends. I know, dang it, fight
at all you want? Watching it happen right in front
of me, and I can't ignore it. Lori Bellow day
Bell has been convicted. We'll tell you what she got
popped for when we come back to Michael, Thank you,
she got popped for.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
I AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yesterday we told you about the story of the judge
Jeffrey Ferguson found guilty second degree murder. Was the was
the final determination. We'll talk more about that story coming
up next hour. Of course, he's the one who says
that he stumbled taking his glock out of his ankle
holster and putting it on the table and just happened
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to kill as one.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well, the jury heard the show yesterday. I think that's
what it came to, the right decision.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're they were listening to it, sure.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Why not? Laurie Valo Dabell.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
This is the woman, the blonde woman who has a
trail of bodies in her wake. She killed her kids,
She's killed an ex husband or two. She's killed an
ex wife of an ex husband. I think a brother
died somewhere along the way. She represented herself at her
latest legal proceeding and was convicted yesterday in Arizona of
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conspiring to kill her fourth husband, Charles Valow.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, she represented herself at trial. She said it was
her brother that did it, Alex Cox, who shot Charles
Valow in self defense during an argument or after an argument. Well,
it was just very convenient that Alex the brother died
that year from a pulmonary embolism and was never charged.
You know why, because he's dead, and she probably thought
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to herself, I just I just got off scot free.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
She claimed that her husband got into an argument this
is really rich with her daughter and threatened her daughter
with a bat, the daughter that Laurie went on to
kill because she said her two kids were taken over
by the demon of the devil Right.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Prosecutors originally dismissed the case because they said they dismissed
her self defense claim, arguing that she had several reasons
to want her husband dead, including her desire to start
a life with yet another man.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So the prosecutors laid it out that Lorie Valo that
she had several reasons for wanting her husband dead, including
her desire to start a new life with that doomsday guy.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Chad day Bell.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The prosecutor in the case of Lorie Valo wanted to
be Lori da Bell, the wife of Chad day Bell,
and she wanted to keep the same lifestyle that she
had with Charles Valo. She could get all of this
if Charles was dead. She could marry Chad day Bell
and become Lori day Bell. She could live her doomsday life.
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She would get the million dollar life insurance policy from
Charles Valo. She'd get social Security for herself and their
son as the child of a dead spouse, and they
should get all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
If Charles was dead, she.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
They say the prosecution would label people who disagreed with
her as dark or possessed by evil spirits, and used
religion as a way for her to justify her killings.
God so wild. It's so wild because religion is such
a saving grace for so many people, right Like, it's
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used for so much good, for so much healing, when
people go through the worst of the worst and they
just like.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Lean on God about it.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And then when people use religion to for evil and
use it as the excuse, it's just it's so gross,
especially about especially using it to justify the murder of
your own children. I like to believe that this woman
was cuckoo pants and that there is no rhyme or
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reason to what she did. I know it's the prosecution's
job to come up with a realistic version of events,
you know, for a rational way.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Things went down right.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But for somebody to say the demon infiltrated their children
and use that as a reason to kill them, I'd
like to believe that's just good old fashioned mental illness,
because that's easier for me to come to grips.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
With than a life insurance policy.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
One of the jurors in this case said lies from
the defense were revealed as the trial went on, that
Lorie Valo Dabel appeared unseerious in her role as her
own counsel. All of this weighed on her this juror's decision.
She said, many days she was just smiling and laughing
and didn't seem to take anything very seriously, which would
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go to your point of clearly struggling with mental illness
of some kind but blaming it on other people not
having the recognition.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But I guess if you, if you say that she's
mentally ill, then she, you know, gets gets out of it.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
She gets up pass on certain things, but not convincing
her brother to kill the fourth husband and then killing
her own kids.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So, my god, up next, if you kill some What
do you think it kills someone? What kind of excuse
you think you'll come up with?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
What were you gonna say? It was gonna be pretty good?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
The show that drives me crazy. Yeah, I think you
can do better. I probably will have to work on that.
The California Film and TV tax Credit expansion is making
its way through the legislature. Maybe there is some good
news for the for the film and TV industry here
in California.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Heather Brooker from KFI News joins us next
Speaker 4 (28:55):
You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show, you
can always hear us live on KFIM six forty nine
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This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. It's rare I go to Starbucks,
but today I did this morning and.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Then put a creature.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
There was no creature.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It said hi, just high, no exclamation point, just h I,
which I thought was kind of creepy because I've gotten hearts,
and I've gotten high exclamation point and I've gotten a
happy face. But this was the first time I just
said hi, no punctuity, no punctuation, and it felt a
little serial killer e to me. However, the woman at
the window said, here you go, sweetie, and I loved that.
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I want to start off every morning with some stranger
calling me sweetie.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
That is very funny because yesterday on Fox News Channel
there was a whole blow up. Randy Weingarten, the head
of the Teachers Union the National Teachers Union, referred to
Martha McCallum as sweetheart, and Martha McCallum hated it. Now
granted situation, she was being super condescending. Martha McCollums like, uh,
you know, call me sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
See, but that makes it worse for her. When someone
calls you sweetheart, you got to just laugh it off.
Steve Gregor used to do that. Oh sweetheart, you just
gotta laugh it off.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
If you take umbrage with it, if you take issue
with it, then you are.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The the lily makes it worse. You know, we should
do that as a talkback. Actually is what is your
love it?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I love movie called sweetheart?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Sweetie doesn't have to be Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But in a place where they ask your name, do
you give him your real name or do you give
him something like now?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I mean, since they have a high on your head.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I have a real hard time with people who use
fake names like you seem like the kind of person
that would do that. You do that with your stupid
email addresses and stupid stuff like you're very private?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I know, but why who the hell are you? What
I mean, who are you? Why would you hide your identity.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because I didn't want to be found out.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
People like Starbucks like Dave Bruce just tell him Bruce, tell.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Him name because they want to hear their they want
to hear the barista call out a funny name.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I agree. I'm just saying there are plenty of people
who do it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You don't do it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't do that.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You've never done that.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I don't think I've ever used a fake name kick
or like at a hotel or whatever. I'm sorry for
profiling you incorrectly.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Very strange. Listen, I like your outfit. Thanks. President Trump
has said has said.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Maybe he is ready to pull back on some of
those tariffs on China.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
One hundred and forty five percent is very high, and
it won't be that high.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's not going to be that high.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
It'll come down to substay and three. But it won't
be zero. He used to be zero.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We were just destroyed.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
China was taking us for a ride and just not
gonna have It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So the Wall Street Journal got on this and said
that the plan that is likely going to happen mirror
is one that was introduced by the House late last year.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
This would be a tiered approach.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Thirty five percent levees items that are not considered a
threat to national security, but at least one hundred percent
on those that are eased down over five years. One
White House official told the Wall Street Journal the result
would be an overall tariff somewhere between a China tariff
roughly between fifty and sixty five percent.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So that's the endgame that we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I still find it fascinating that Wall Street reacts to
all the whims of this president. And I guess you
have to because he is a president of the United States. Sure,
you're reacting to the title making these calls, not the
person behind the title, because we have said said from
go that this is not tenable.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
This is not a tenable situation.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, and if Scott Bessen, I mean, if the Secretary
of the Treasury says these exact same words and he
has it doesn't make a tenth the impact on Wall
Street that it does when a president says it. Now,
other presidents had been more careful and measured when it
comes to things like talking about the Fed Reserve chair
or something like that, because they know that it could
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have an impact significantly on Wall Street and the way
people view American stocks and bonds.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Trump's also said he didn't feel the need to play
hardball with Hi Jinping.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
This is yeah, that language is just hey, we're just
friends having a little bit of a dispute here over what.
But then he'll talk about how it feels like China
has been taking advantage of the United States for decades,
which which is very different then, but we don't have
to be we don't have to get we don't have
to be nasty to it.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's such a tactic, right, you come out and you're
super nasty, and then you dial back again, leaving the
door open for maybe a friendship, hoping to lure that
person into the cave of negotiation.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yea. Then it gives you.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
The card to play like, well, friends don't treat each
other like this, right, we're friends, you know. A healthy
competition is the way we should be going. Right, There
is something that kind of happening on the back end.
It's very quiet that's going on in DC, but it
could potentially signal the opening of talks, sort of the
opening round the capital of China. Beijing has sent People's
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Bank of China's governor, his deputy, and a finance minister.
Those three guys are all in DC this week and
they are going to be hosting meetings of the World
Bank Group and the International Monetary Fund. They're saying simply
because we will see high level Chinese officials with high
level American officials in the same place at the same time.
(05:35):
Maybe that's sort of an exchange of the contours of it,
of an agreement at some point, So maybe that maybe
there is progress.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I am cracking up over the media coverage of the
Pope's death. Everyone is suddenly a Catholic. Everybody cares about
the Catholics. Everybody treating this with the utmost reverence. People
talking about mike Langelo's Pieta, talking about the Chamber of
Deputies kneeling before the coffin, and the Italian Parliament lower house, and.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I understand that the eighty percent of this country is
church going, what percentage of that is Catholic?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know what I mean? And everyone's is acting like.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
This is just such the biggest deal, and they're trying
not to butcher the names and things that we don't
really care about.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's like the Catholic guilt has.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Permeated the entire country, like y'all that did sit through
it the way we all sat through it and feel
guilty over every single thing. Suddenly the Pope dies and
you're all getting a little dose of what we lived through.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Walking with the Rosary.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Hey Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Hey Gary.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Question, did you we hear speedo under your clothes when
you had swim practice in the morning? Buddy, I'm just
curious day man.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The answer is no.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Can we unpack that for a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You haven't talked about being on the swim team in
high school for quite some time. That's ratnel around, rattle
in around in his brain. Ye, thinking about you and
your speedo. I would imagine that you brought your speedo
with you and he changed in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Before practice and then changed out of it. Well, yeah,
because it was wet. Yeah, I don't know what the guy,
I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't understand, but everyone's visualizing you as a teenager
great speedo underneath your street clothes.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
But to clarify, in practice, I would always wear multiple
I wore two or three excuse me, speedos and then
trunks over the top of it. Really create more drag,
big pockets and everything like that, so that when you
on when you'd have a meat, most of them on
Thursdays on Thursday afternoon, you would just wear your skit.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It wasn't just penis modesty.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, you put a lot of layers on top of
that thing, keep it safe, keep it away from the
public eye.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, I was fifteen, there probably was a little bit
of that. S mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Man, if I had one of those, I would totally
wear like sixteen speedos, probably into my mid twenties.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Latin chants have been sounding across the Vatican. This procession
of red hatted cardinals and bishops, et cetera accompanied Pope
Francis's body from his residency out to Saint Peter's Basilica.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Sy, you're a glam squad that goes along with.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Listen, I'm going to get in trouble, but I've paid
my dues. Is there a glam squad that goes along
with the body to touch up the powdering and the makeup.
I would assume that's a yes. You got to keep
that body looking freshly powdered.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, I I don't know how. I don't know what
sort of preservation is equipment, no spackle, spackling. You know
he died at the age of eighty eight. Yeah, and
it doesn't take long for the body to change very
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quickly in.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Depth.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How often are open caskets these days? Are they still
as common?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I don't, I don't. I don't know. That's a good question.
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I can't remember the last time I went to
an open casket.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I did one twenty years ago, probably soon after my
wife and I were married, so probably closer to twenty
five years ago. I was a good friend of ours,
someone I went to college with ended up being a
roommate of my of my now wife, sort of a
weird confluence of events.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But her younger brother was killed a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
How old twenty oh, god, twenty one, and and they
did an open casket and it was.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
A casket because of the injuries. Oh my god, that's awful.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And I just, I mean, I can, to this day
close my eyes and see john'son like, see the face.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh, it's just it's so sad.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
First of all, it's such an awful, heartbreaking because it's
a young guy, and it was a it was a
bad accident.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Didn't have to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It just awful, awful, awful, And then to see that
as part of the whole day.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Of the funeral is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I had gone to a lot of funerals. I mean
not a lot, but a fair amount in my childhood.
Older relatives had died. But I remember when my uncle died,
My uncle Harry, a massive heart attack, and he was
probably about your age, I want to say, he was
early fifties, and it was obviously a shock, a surprise.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He was a big guy, but.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Still, and I remember seeing him in they had an
open casket, and seeing him in the in that casket
and just losing it because he was so young and
I was twenty at the time, but it gave me
a sense of my parents' mortality at that point. And
it was terrifying because everyone else was in their eighties,
late seventies, eighties. They were ancient. You know, when you're
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growing up, it's ancient. But he, you know, dark hair Dad.
You know my cousins were on the same age, and
it was just awful.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
They say that the funeral itself will be on Saturday,
So if you're getting up early to watch it, it's
going to be I think one o'clock our time.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Are you going to get it?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Every Saturday morning?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You're gonna put on your robes?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
No, I mean, are your speedo, no, not even my
speedo to watch to watch the funeral?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is it gonna be in Latin? This is it's gotta
be in Latin, right, it's a pope's funeral. Although he
pooh pooed the Latin mass.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I don't know how they would do that.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They've got it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, I don't know the rules, but I would think,
let me look that up.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
There is also a memorial mass here in La they
say with it will honor the life and the ministry
Pope Francis. It's going to be Friday, of course, downtown
at the huge cathedral of Our Lady of Angels. The
Archdiocese of La has announced that the special service will
start just after noon on Friday, led by Archbishop hose
Ac Comes will also be joined by some auxiliary bishops
(12:28):
and clergy of the Archdiocese of La. That's going to
be on Friday, and then the conclave. I mean, over
the next couple of weeks, we're going to do a
bunch of stories about the potential leaders in the clubhouse
when it comes to those bishops that could become the
next pope and how they want to run things and
if it is very different from what Pope Francis did.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As the pope for the last several years.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
My goodness, I'm just going through the protocol. And there's
a playbook for the funeral. Oh yeah, it's a twenty
page playbook. It's called the University Dominicis, which is Latin
for the shepherd of the Lord's whole flock.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, think of when the queen died, I mean, when
the queen or when the prince right, it's the same bit.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's the same bit. Is that part of our fascination
as a country.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I think that, Yes, I was going to say that,
I think that there is a certain amount of I
mean you're talking about everybody's been affected by this, Catholic
or not. There's something about us as big meat bags
that like to see some amount of history, tradition, and
some amount of tradition and pomp.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's it's science. We're biologically wired to be connected to
our past, Yeah, and to tradition like that, and.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
This tradition goes back a couple thousand years.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know what I would like to do. I'd like
to know you got really nervous with your face right there.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oftentimes, usually that question is answered with I'd.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Like to burn it down. I'd just like to burn it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I don't sound like candle shoot it first of all.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Shoot it and then burn it.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I am coming from a positive place today, okay, And
I think that we need a tradition on this show.
This show has been around ten years, which is an eternity. Basically,
we've had traditions. What coming gone well, I'd like to
stick to at least one of them on the Thursday,
right right, you know, I don't know. I just feel
(14:27):
like we don't pay homage to our traditions here on
this show.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Enough. Michael Monks is going to join us we come back.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Okay, Okay, we spend a lot of homeless money, and
then we also don't spend a lot of homeless money.
Five hundred some odd million dollars that was not spent,
and finally someone in city Hall goes, hey, uh, I
got an idea.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We maybe just like, look at where the money goes.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Michael Monks has been on top of this, and we'll
continue to follow all of the news regarding the whole
less out a City Hall Hill join us when we
come back.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Michael Monks has joined us because we continue to track
what's going on in downtown LA when it comes to
all the homeless dollars we have as voters have sent
this way towards the county or the city, and it
looks like yesterday the council called for analysis of the spending.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You would think that this would be done.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That the voters would approve a bond or a tax
or what have you, and that all of the money
would be accounted for and you'd know exactly where it
was going, and that's what you do when other people
give you their money.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Apparently that was not being done.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Now they've decided unanimously twelve nothing that they are going
to start doing this.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's right, and apologize.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I spoke before I was introduced that's a faux pas so,
but you were talking ice cream sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So no, everyone who as you are, come on.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
All right, I wouldn't note that.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yes, the council voted yesterday to say maybe we should,
I don't know, have a presentation every now and then
on where these moneies are going, because it's a lot
of money and apparently we don't actually know. So that
was the first thing they did. But there was also
an example of this playing out separate from this vote.
They voted on something else yesterday to get a better
handle on a program known as time limited Subsidies, and
(16:27):
that is a government word for basically giving a market
rate apartment to a homeless person, subsidizing the rent, but
having that person in a program where they can be
rehabilitated and within a couple of years or so, be
able to pay for that apartment on their own. It
sounds like a pretty solid program, but they invested about
one hundred ninety four million dollars in this program, between
the City of the County and LASA and Councilman Nthia Rahman,
(16:49):
who's a hardliner on homelessness stuff, as in she's in
favor of all of the programs and an apologist for
a lot of the programs. She says, of that one
hundred and ninety four million dollars, we have noticed that
we haven't spent a lot of it. We've only spent
somewhere between twenty five and sixty percent of it.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So that alone is a problem because.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
They don't know what they're doing with that.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're not spending all of the money that you've allocated
for this program. They say they don't have the you know,
the social workers, they don't have the landlord's willing to
rent the apartments.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
But to me, the bigger problem was, what do you
mean between twenty five and sixty percent?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Quite a swath it is, you know, it's not twenty
five to.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Thirty, you know, because they don't know what they're doing
with money. These aren't money people. These are people that
are our whorees that decided to get into politics to
benefit themselves. They they don't have any real money. They
don't know how to spend it. It's like giving a twenty
one year old athlete a multimillion dollar contract and saying
you've got all this money, go make great use of it.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And they're like, I don't know what to do with it.
That's what's happening at city council.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
They don't have anybody like Rick Caruso, for example, who
knows money to come in and triage the money situation.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And again, and I think we've even spent about it
together on this program, that if the results were obvious
and not just occasional presentations every year about how the
homeless population is dipped a percent or two, you know,
in raw numbers, I think people would be more forgiving,
you know, like, yeah, it's expensive to do this, but
the progress isn't right that you know. I have five
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new tents outside my apartment building this week. Skid row
has now come in bled out into the fashion district
and as of this week, five new tents that are
loud blocking the sidewalk, and it looks terrible.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You're absolutely right if we saw some change, if we
saw them using the money correctly. Just give me a
couple examples and we'll publicize it all day long. If
you can show us constructive ways you've used the money,
that's been a proof for you to use for this problem.
Show us on the flip side, all we've seen is
(18:52):
mismanagement and now them not even using the money because
they don't know how. I mean, it is such a
freaking mess.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's a big mess.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And this just calls for a report in sixty days
on how the money is being spent, and then they
are to do these reports every quarter about homeless dollars.
This includes spending by LASA, also by the Mayor's program
Inside Safe, which has had some relatively secretive finances, so
we'll maybe get to see a little bit more on this,
But again, this is a very expensive project. The city
(19:24):
is now kind of on its own because they don't
have the county in partnership with them. As up next year,
the county has voted to leave the LA Homeless Service
Authority and do its own thing, and I haven't seen
the city come out with what its plan is.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
The number of homeless people was down this amount from
year to year twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
What do you think think about the number the amount
of money we're talking about. How many fewer homeless people
did we have from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you think percentage?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
No, sheer number of homeless people?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
No idea. Just take used out a couple of thousand.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Two hundred.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh, we've got two hundred people off the street allegedly.
And how many billions of dollars have we thrown at this?
I mean part of it is their complete head in
the sand reluctance to understand the problem of addiction. I
mean that that is something that needs to be dealt with.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I thought it was the first housing prices.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It is not it is not weird.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I thought, that's exactly what as.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Michael said, there's programs where they're getting people into homes.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's not the problem.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
That's what I thought yesterday as I pulled into my
parking lot and I saw all my new neighbors outside,
I thought, you know, if you didn't want to live
in a tent on the street, what do you need.
If you're a drug addict or a drunk, there's a
program for you. If you need help getting a job,
there is a program for you. If you need to
get your education, there is a program for you. And
if you need to be in a shelter, there is
(20:52):
supposed to be a bed for you somewhere. So why
are you here on this street unless some degree, if
you get to.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
What you want to do in that tent.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But if you go into those programs and you've got
to do a bunch of things that you don't want
to do. When we live in a city that makes
it easy and looks the other way for people to do.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
What they want to do, i e.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Crack and booze and everything that's bad for you, we
enable all of it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's what it looks like because blocking the sidewalk is
against the law. I mean, we talk about criminalizing homelessness,
and it's true that I think all of us have
our humanity still, Like you feel for the people who
are in the situation they're in, whether it's chosen or not,
that you wish their life could be a little bit better.
But they're making other people's lives worse by not allowing
(21:42):
someone in a wheelchair to be able to get by. Thankfully,
we have a protected bike lane on my streets, so
we can step into that and not worry about being
run over.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But if you get run over by a bike. You
could get run over by a bike.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
But you can't walk on the sidewalk now because they
are all blocked by these massive tents which were being
erected at like three in the morning with power tools
and wood and rope.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, it's a whole it's a racket.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, they've got a whole situation going on.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
There's infrastructure, just the whole. We have compassion for the
homeless bull s, but if.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You try to build wants.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
To live in a tent? You know, I want to
live in a tent or you pick. It's this time
of year it's beautiful. I'd like to live in a
tent and zone out for a couple of months.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You couldn't set up a card table and sell Michael
Monk's branded homemade ice cream. I would, Gary, That's not
even something that I'm thinking about doing.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Why you could fire some of them to set up
your I could.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I bet they could find all the right ingredients.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But I mean, if if you really LA city leader,
La City leaders, if you truly have compassion for the homeless,
you would not be looking the other way. If I
got to do what part of me wants to do
and lived in a tent outside Michael Monks's place and
just do drugs and drink myself away for a couple months,
you know, I'd have people coming to get me because
they actually do have compassion for me.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I'd come for you. You could come upstairs, you
could come in.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
You've probably let me do my drugs in your place.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
If you shared.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
All you guys are friends. I know, dang it, fight
at all you want? Watching it happen right in front
of me, and I can't ignore it. Lori Bellow day
Bell has been convicted. We'll tell you what she got
popped for when we come back to Michael, Thank you,
she got popped for.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf
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Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yesterday we told you about the story of the judge
Jeffrey Ferguson found guilty second degree murder. Was the was
the final determination. We'll talk more about that story coming
up next hour. Of course, he's the one who says
that he stumbled taking his glock out of his ankle
holster and putting it on the table and just happened
(23:53):
to kill as one.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Well, the jury heard the show yesterday. I think that's
what it came to, the right decision.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're they were listening to it, sure.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Why not? Laurie Valo Dabell.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
This is the woman, the blonde woman who has a
trail of bodies in her wake. She killed her kids,
She's killed an ex husband or two. She's killed an
ex wife of an ex husband. I think a brother
died somewhere along the way. She represented herself at her
latest legal proceeding and was convicted yesterday in Arizona of
(24:25):
conspiring to kill her fourth husband, Charles Valow.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, she represented herself at trial. She said it was
her brother that did it, Alex Cox, who shot Charles
Valow in self defense during an argument or after an argument. Well,
it was just very convenient that Alex the brother died
that year from a pulmonary embolism and was never charged.
You know why, because he's dead, and she probably thought
(24:50):
to herself, I just I just got off scot free.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
She claimed that her husband got into an argument this
is really rich with her daughter and threatened her daughter
with a bat, the daughter that Laurie went on to
kill because she said her two kids were taken over
by the demon of the devil Right.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Prosecutors originally dismissed the case because they said they dismissed
her self defense claim, arguing that she had several reasons
to want her husband dead, including her desire to start
a life with yet another man.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So the prosecutors laid it out that Lorie Valo that
she had several reasons for wanting her husband dead, including
her desire to start a new life with that doomsday guy.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Chad day Bell.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The prosecutor in the case of Lorie Valo wanted to
be Lori da Bell, the wife of Chad day Bell,
and she wanted to keep the same lifestyle that she
had with Charles Valo. She could get all of this
if Charles was dead. She could marry Chad day Bell
and become Lori day Bell. She could live her doomsday life.
(26:05):
She would get the million dollar life insurance policy from
Charles Valo. She'd get social Security for herself and their
son as the child of a dead spouse, and they
should get all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
If Charles was dead, she.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
They say the prosecution would label people who disagreed with
her as dark or possessed by evil spirits, and used
religion as a way for her to justify her killings.
God so wild. It's so wild because religion is such
a saving grace for so many people, right Like, it's
(26:40):
used for so much good, for so much healing, when
people go through the worst of the worst and they
just like.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Lean on God about it.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And then when people use religion to for evil and
use it as the excuse, it's just it's so gross,
especially about especially using it to justify the murder of
your own children. I like to believe that this woman
was cuckoo pants and that there is no rhyme or
(27:11):
reason to what she did. I know it's the prosecution's
job to come up with a realistic version of events,
you know, for a rational way.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Things went down right.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But for somebody to say the demon infiltrated their children
and use that as a reason to kill them, I'd
like to believe that's just good old fashioned mental illness,
because that's easier for me to come to grips.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
With than a life insurance policy.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
One of the jurors in this case said lies from
the defense were revealed as the trial went on, that
Lorie Valo Dabel appeared unseerious in her role as her
own counsel. All of this weighed on her this juror's decision.
She said, many days she was just smiling and laughing
and didn't seem to take anything very seriously, which would
(27:59):
go to your point of clearly struggling with mental illness
of some kind but blaming it on other people not
having the recognition.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But I guess if you, if you say that she's
mentally ill, then she, you know, gets gets out of it.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
She gets up pass on certain things, but not convincing
her brother to kill the fourth husband and then killing
her own kids.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So, my god, up next, if you kill some What
do you think it kills someone? What kind of excuse
you think you'll come up with?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
What were you gonna say? It was gonna be pretty good?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
The show that drives me crazy. Yeah, I think you
can do better. I probably will have to work on that.
The California Film and TV tax Credit expansion is making
its way through the legislature. Maybe there is some good
news for the for the film and TV industry here
in California.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Heather Brooker from KFI News joins us next
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