February 10, 2025 • 27 mins
Gary and Shannon begin the second hour to the show with story of how GoFundMe because a lifeline after the wildfires. Gary and Shannon also talk about an OC teen creating a network of sensors to help detect wildfires and an atmospheric river hitting SoCal later this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I went to Trader Joe's last
week and fresh out of eggs. No eggs, none at all.
There was just strawberries and blueberries and the egg cooler.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yesterday morning, this is weirdo. Knowing that the house was
going to be full and it was going to be
a loud day. When I got up yesterday morning, I
watched the eagle cam from Big Bear on my TV.
I cannot tell you how calming it was to watch
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an eagle right at sunrise, like beautiful sun up on
the corner, incredible view, Shadow and Jackie have a great apartment,
three eggs and just watching the eagle like get up
and move around and kind of fucks with the little
straw and everything and then settle back down.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
On why do you I have the eagle cam up
the entire show every day when I have to sit
here and listen to you?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is that what it is? That's how you deal with it.
It was just so strange that I even thought of
it and then sat there and it was on for
a long time, like an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was gonna say, I mean, I didn't sit.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There the entire hour, but my wife came downstairs and
is like, what uh, what's going on? What are you doing?
What's going the dogs? Sitting on my lap and we're
both just watching the Eagle. Did we know? I just
realized we knew that the Eagles were going to win
that game?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh my god, I did not just I jug I
just made that connection as well.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
A YouTube good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So. I absolutely loved all the commercials focused on women
and girls. I thought that was awesome and I'd totally
love to see more of that. What I didn't like
was the easy commercial. And what I'm hearing is it
was a local Fox station told him that spot. They
should absolutely be ashamed of themselves. You go to a
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website where the only thing you can purchase is a
swastikash shirt. Come on, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I even said I think last night, like, isn't that
isn't there a law against this? Like can't the FCC
step in and say we don't sell swastikas at Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The story will come out. But we had somebody at
the party last night who knew some of the inside
information about how those commercials are sold and what happened.
And I don't want to recap it because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You don't I to talk about side of school.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I don't want to talk outside of school, and I
don't want to get anybody in trouble for anything. But
yet something fell through and basically Kanye was able to
put a bid in for a commercial that he produced
on his iPhone.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Like he said, his ex account is deactivated after he
went on an anti semitic rant. The account is gone
as of this morning. He declared himself a Nazi in
one post praised Adolf Hitler and others. Is not the
first FIR time his account has been deactivated, but after
eight months of his account being inactive back in twenty
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twenty three, Elon Musk reinstated it. He was active during
the Super Bowl yesterday. If anyone cares, I don't. Thankfully
nobody was updating us on his phosts. The chief executive
of go fund Me also had to be evacuated from
his house in Altadena last month. His name is Tim Cadogan,
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no stranger to two disasters. He is in his home office.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The night of January seventh, he hears helicopters before he
realizes anything else is going on, and within a couple
of minutes, he and his family had evacuated their house
there in Altadena. Since the fires broke out on January seventh,
gofund me has raised, or I should say, people have
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donated more than two hundred and fifty million dollars through
the go fund me website two d and fifty mini,
which is well over all of the money that was
donated through that site last year for all natural disasters.
And this is just one.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm wondering when the tide is going to turn for GoFundMe,
when people are going to when it's going to be ruined.
I mean, because right now, it's like, you know, there's
you know, just off the top of my head, things
like wildfire relief or people battling cancer and things like that. Right,
I'm just thinking of things that I've donated to recently, right,
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unexpected costs that pop up out of nowhere in your
life due to tragedy, tragic circumstances usually, right.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But you well, it's not as if you have to
I mean, you have to find a thing to give to.
It's not as if these are just random things that
pop up, say in your timeline, and you could, but.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
They are I mean if you look at Facebook or
or Instagram or what have you. These are things that
pop up from individuals you know, yeah, but not like
you're seeking them out. I've never I've never gone to
go fund me and said where can I give. It's
usually a friend or family member that shares something where
you're like, oh, I had no idea, so and so
was going through that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, But then you have to take another step. I
mean you have to go through and actually do the
donation through through the website. This is interesting that they
I'm just.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Wondering when it gets to the point where people take
advantage of it to where you're turned off. I'm shoating.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I'm sure there's people that do it all the time,
especially if an event like this, like two hundred and
fifty million dollars that's been raised through GoFundMe for different
fire relief, whether it's families, whether it's schools, businesses, something
like that. There's plenty of room, unfortunately, for people to
grift off of that and take just a slight take.
If they took one tenth of one percent, you're still
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making all kinds of money off of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Catherine Barger, a county supervisor, had said at one point
that she was upset she was forced to pay a
ninety five dollars fee to go fund me to make
a five hundred dollars donation to a friend whose home
had been lost in the fire, and said that she
was shocked. Now Go fund Me says, no, no, no, there's
no way that we charged you a fee. But what
they do now is after you make a donation, they
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ask you bless you. They ask you if you want
to add a tip right, which can be a percentage
of how much it is that you gave. The company
does charge two point nine percent on all the donations,
as well as thirty cents for a transaction no matter
how big it is, but it covers their credit card
and the bank transaction fees. And they also said that
they draw revenue from a subscription based software company that
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helps clients raise money. And the other thing to keep
in mind is there is some contention between go fund
me or a private fundraiser like that, and if you
take money from them, whether you are still eligible to
receive Federal Emergency Management Agency funds. So before before you
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start cashing in those chips, maybe keep an eye on
whether the government will come and help you out.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Have you ever wondered about the language of cows?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yes, so have I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
There is now a linguist learning to speak the expressive
language of cows. It's not very pedestrian, shall we say,
It's quite complex. It's not just the cows and what
they say with their mouths. It's what they say with
their eyes, with their ears, with their.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Hoofs, their body language.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's right well before we get to how to speak cow.
There is a great story at Orange County about a
teenager who has innovated to the point of detective being
able to detect wildfires installing it's soon to be installed.
These sensors are in Irvine. His name is Ryan Honoree.
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He's sixteen. He's from Newport Beach studying at Stanford Online
High School, and he has been trying to detect wildfires
using AI.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't know how as a fifth grader he starts
working on AI, but that's when he says he started
after the campfire up in Paradise killed eighty five people
and burned one hundred and fifty thousand acres up in
Butte County. Said he created an early detection technology to
prevent wildfires, which later secured a grant and ultimately became
this product that he's working on, called Sensory AI or
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CENSORII since our y first two letters in his name censai.
AI already got recognition in the form of an Office
of Naval Research Naval Science Award and also won the
Grand prize at the twenty nineteen Ignite Innovation Student Challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Apparently uses AI to create a network of sensors that
analyze smoke and heat data to alert firefighters when a
brush fire begins when it ignites, he said, the sixteen
year old with greater than twelve hundred feet a line
of sight and around three hundred feet of non line
sight were able to detect fire that's smaller than one foot.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Orange County Fire Authority is on this guy's team. They're
now working with him, according to the website, to turn
his platform into a deployable product, and since the creation
of his artificial intelligence, he says he's received funding from
Irvine Ranch Conservancy for his project as well. That's that's
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what I want AI for. I don't want AI for
the Jimmy Johnson Tribute. Yeah, a good fight, That's what
I wanted for.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I did watch the game, and I didn't have a
preference as to who I wanted to win. But in
talking to people today, it really surprised me how many
say that it was a fixed game, that wh mahone
he through it, through the game. What's your take on that? Wait,
you believe I missed the first part?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It was a real game. Why did she believe it
was fixed?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Because people have been saying it was fixed?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Would they why would they throw the game? If you
watch the Chiefs all year, you noted it has not
been a well oiled machine. And that just seemed like
a team that didn't show up. It seemed like a
team that didn't want it, wasn't hungry enough, and just
didn't show up. That happens from time to time in
the NFL. You don't want it to happen on Super
Bowl Sunday, but we've seen week three, week seven, week twelve,
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or teams just for whatever reason they don't show up.
And the Chiefs did not. And you know, you want
to talk about all the advertising machine that is Patrick
Mahomes and Travis Kelcey they were great. They were great.
Travis Kelsey's thirty seven years old, folks.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's why everybody's talking about him retiring now. It's not
just a wishful thinking. Yes, it's real, it's a reality.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
They have had magic, they have had things. Patrick Mahomes
is magical when it comes to extending plays and making happened.
And yes, they've got great chemistry, but that kind of
stuff runs out. It's why it's impossible to have a
three peat. It's why it doesn't happen usually. It's very
hard to keep a team intact and winning for that
long of a time.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And by the way, and conspiracy is hard. Conspiracy is hard.
The idea that that's what I mean, the idea that
you would have a player throw a game if if
Patrick Mahomes was doing it by himself, or that you've
got a league that somehow can dictate the outcome of
a game for the benefit of what the benefit of
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one team. It doesn't benefit the NFL if they've got
the Chiefs and everyone else.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Listen, in my advanced age, I haven't met a conspiracy theory.
I did not give at least a little bit of
attention to it. Yeah, I'm into it, but this one
I cannot tell you. It holds one drop of water
water water. Federal judge has found today that the Trump
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administration has no fully followed his order to unfreeze federal
spending told the White House to release all the money.
This is US District Court Judge John McConnell found there's
evidence that some federal grants and loans are still not
going out to recipients in order that the cash be released.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Five former Treasury secretaries wrote an op ed peace in
The New York Times, calling out the president's latest moves
at the Treasury Department as a direct threat to america
Democracy's financial backbone. Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geitner, Jacob Blue,
Janet Yellen and all signed on. Of course, there are
all veterans of democratic administrations. They condemned what they describe
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as arbitrary and capricious political control of federal payments. Elon
Musko over the weekend put out a lengthy tweet that
described some of the things that the Department of Government Efficiency,
his DOJE group, and US Treasury have agreed to start doing.
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It's amazing that we have allowed government to operate in
such a way where they don't have to do the
simple things that you and I have to Wright.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I mean, we've seen it at a state level. We've
seen it countless times. I mean maybe you and I
more because we covered the budget up in Sacramento when
we were reporters there, but we've seen it at this
level of at least when we were in our early twenties,
when we first were covering Sacramento and we were like, wait, what, like,
you just think you can spend X amount of dollars
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even though you don't have that in the bank, and
then you run and you operated a deficit forever. What
that doesn't work in our homes?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Or you're willing to pay an entity, a person, a
company that has ridiculously.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Eight hundred dollars inflated eight hundred dollars for a chair
that costs twelve dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Right, I mean those types of things, and then especially
right now, I hate I hate tax season. I don't.
It's not that I'm unwilling to pay taxes. I know
the government needs the money to work the rigamarole, And
it's the fear they they drill into you, this fear
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that if you get audited, your life is over or
if you underpay, or you like it's over and you're screwed.
But they don't have the same requirements for their own
financial health.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Their own financial keeping is atrocious.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, I will do that at the top of the air.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Let's talk cow, shall we? Quite literally?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I love the name Leoni Cornips.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I feel like you'd play a really good Leoni Cornips.
Leoni Cornips is a socio linguist at the Merton's Institute
in Amsterdam and the Netherlands YEP. They usually specialize there
in the study of Dutch language and culture. A lot
of wooden shoes, but this woman has taken a turn
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into the animal worlds. Shall we speak?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
She has?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Leoni has spent her summer holidays for years on a farm,
and from the beginning nearly she was struck by the
different personalities of cows. Individual cows. Not one cow is
like the other cow. No, they are very individual in
their personalities. She read an essay by a philosopher that
asked why linguists never study animals, and they say it
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affected her deeply. She felt like the cows had been ignored,
that the cows intelligence and social habits lend themselves to
be studied.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Good research subjects for a linguist and obviously as a
Dutch person. Apparently there's all kinds of cows all over
the place in that part of Europe, so she decided
for cows to be the subject.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well. Also, their love of cheese is known far and
wide in the Netherlands. They love their cheese. They're like you.
There was a cheese just last night on the charcuteri plate.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It was like a dill that Yes, what's a I
think it's a dill Havardi?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yes, I was going to say, was it a Havardi?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I liked that cheese.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Good cheese.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I need to I need to know more about the cheese,
like I need a picture of the cheese the label.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Anyway, back to the cows.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
My stomach is rumbling because I want all of the
food again from yesterday. No, I know. Anyway, this woman
is using dairy cows to push back on the idea
that they don't have language, And in fact, there are
other people who kind of work in this space of
animal communication and they don't describe it as language so
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much as it is just a way of communicating between animals.
And she's Michelle Fournier is an assistant professor of specializing
and acoustic ecology. They see animals, and she said that
their system of communication is not less than human language,
it's just it's just different than what we think of.
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So when Leoni Cornips starts studying, she looks at things
like the pitch of the cow sounds and if they
correlate with behavior, that might be one way to determine
whether the cows are doing well or not.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
She also noticed how the cows use their bodies as
an instrument to get to know other cows.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So as an example, she she starts doing this and
she likes this one male fleck via I think that's
a kind of a cow. And she goes to greet
this cow and the cow is kind of put off
by the fact that she would just approach, and she
said she had to learn sort of the avoid eye
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contact at first, maybe play a little hard to get
you know what I'm saying, and then the cow would
kind of warm up to her. But also when they
communicate with each other, for example, a mother calls her calf,
it sometimes takes about a minute for the calf to
actually respond.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, the time is filled with bodily gestures. Ear positioning,
next stretching integral to cow language. We think of the
ability to wiggle our ears as a party trick. Nobody
wiggled their ears yesterday. For a cow, it appears to
be fundamental, they say to communication. The first sentence in
a conversation with a cow is likely to involve the
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movement of the ears and a look. She said, And
I about that cow that she took a liking to,
She said this, I was always so happy to see
him that when I got to his meadow, I walked
straight towards him and tried to touch him immediately.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's already office.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Set that aside.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
She also says one difference between humans in many animals
is the use of environment. Leoni said that she found
how cow communication leans on surroundings. For example, one herd,
individual cows were using their bodies to bang on the
iron fence to communicate with the rest of the herd
at feeding time, and she viewed that again in her mind,
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that's language. We might not use language, we would say
more of a communication tool, but that she noticed cows
responding to her differently depending on whether she entered a
barn with solid walls or open sides. And since cows
on different farms have different physical features that they're surrounded by,
this offers different opportunities for this communicative expression, this linguistic expression.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I noticed this one's during a visit to the Wildlife
Learning Center in the Valley when the giraffe that lives
there continued to bang its head against aluminum or roof.
And I'm wondering, what is this giraffe trying to say
to us as he would bang his head repeatedly against
a wall, Take me home, to which I said, you know,
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when I'm at work, I also sometimes want to just
bang my head against a wall.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But the problem is these are all padded walls. I
don't know. I know they know that realization.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
There's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. And I've watched the Eagle in the morning, yeah,
and in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What you are onto something? Do you see how the
universe responds when you give it your attention?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I guess so great show as always.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah. I love the commercials, except you're right that seal commercial.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I was thinking, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That was hey? Sounding great? Looked a little weird? Yes,
I thought, man, that's gonna they're going to pay for
that one anyway, And I don't even know. I don't
even know what it was what it was for actually.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Anyway, Mountain dew, it did look like I wanted to
get out onto a boat.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Boats can be fun.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Boats can be fun.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Boats are a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Boats are a lot. I don't want to have to ever,
like do anything with a boat.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You want to borrow someone's boat, I.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Don't want to borrow it even I don't want that responsibility.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But you don't want to have it, you know. I
don't want to look at a boat. I've decided never
mind done. Boats are awful. A couple stories we're following.
President Trump says he's going to announce the United States
will impose twenty five percent tariffs on all steel and
aluminum imports, including from Canada and Mexico, as well as
other import duties, tomorrow or Wednesday. Trump also has reaffirmed
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he's going to announce these reciprocal tariffs. It means the
United States would impose import duties on any product in
cases in which another country has levy duties on American goods.
He got a lot of stuff done, apparently while he
was on Air Force one flying from Florida to go
to the Super Bowl yesterday. The head of the UN
aid's agency says the number of new HIV infections could
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jump more than six times by twenty twenty nine if
the biggest AIDS program is dropped. The UNA un AIDS
executive director had warned that millions of people could die
and more resistant strains of AIDS could emerge after a
USAID and CUT had cut some of their funding.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What is right?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Does that look like? That looked like a fake picture,
that was source perspective, like a weird that was real.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's why I was pointing. A major atmospheric river storm
is barreling towards the coast. I need scary music, I know,
but I don't want to make Calloween music. We should
get scary like scary.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Music for when the media tries to scare us, right
like woo stupid evil media.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well they are stupid. It's like, do you think we're
gonna watch your freaking news to because you scare us
with your double double Doppler special scary radar. No, that's
not gonna keep me coming. It might in a twenty years,
but not right now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Do you realize We did not invite Henry to Carlow.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't want him seeing us when we're in our
like relaxed times. I would have felt like we had
to be on like really good. I don't know. I
would have had to get the midget for sure. If
Henry was coming.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
My wife said she would die one year.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's going to happen. I don't know when. I wonder
if the rates are higher on Super Bowl was a
busy day. But I've never been to a super Bowl
party with a midget.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't know very many people who have.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Like what would your wife offer him? Like, how would
that go? What do you mean would she be smiling
the whole time? Like would she just be silently smiling?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
She's good at playing it cool, Yeah, but if.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
There was a midget in her home, I mean for
I mean, that would maybe be the time that she
lost her cool. Maybe it's like she might It might
have an effect anyway. The atmospheric storm otherwise is February,
the February of our youth now has a name, and
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it's called an atmospheric river. This is supposed to hit
before Friday. It's expected to be the strongest storm of
the winter. So far, which is nothing compared to what
we've had what last week? When it now, I did
hear Mark Thompson as I was driving home Friday Friday
talk about how he was white knuckling his drive from
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Pasadena to the West Side. I think it was so
I don't want to minimize anybody's experience. My experience was nothing.
My experience was it sprinkled a little bit, like I
didn't even put a rain jacket on at all, no hood, nothing,
But maybe that's just where I lived.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Raw Dog that rainstorm. I sure did that. Now, this
is if you just go by the sheer amount of
rain that they're expecting. They said between two and four
inches along the coast and the valleys, up to eight
inches in the mountains and the foothills. That is that's significant.
That's a good storm. It would start eight Wednesday, basically
all day Thursday would rain and then taper off into Friday.
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So by the time you get out for your I
don't know your found time something, then it should be gone.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
There could be some mudslides, there could be debris sliding
off hillsides, There could be some roads that have some issues,
they say Santa Barbara, San Louis Counties could see twelve
to twenty four hours or more of rainfall, and that's
going to come down pretty quickly, causing some significant debris flow.
There Again, those areas more than prepared. This is what
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happens every year pretty much.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I do like that. This is a six page article
on a six page article on February, Thank you, am
I just jaded where it's like these stories that come
up every year, whether it be you know, rain in
February or.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, just common sense things, well where we have to
act like they're new or they're shocking or they're different.
They happen every year. You just get to be a
certain age where you're like, yeah, it's gonna rain in February.
I'm not freaking out about it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's almost as if the La Times is paying writers
by letter by word now.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Or they're from Mars and this is their first time here.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, instead of writing the headline a storm's a common
they write major atmospheric river storm barreling toward Califoria, like.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
We're gonna be wiped out, like the meteor is hitting.
There are plenty of things to be scared about in
this world. Can we not make rain one of them.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, it is California.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
No I would say I'm depressed, but the sun is out.
My seasonal effective disorder is gone.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Wipe clean. We'll do swamp Watch when we come back
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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on the iHeartRadio app. I went to Trader Joe's last
week and fresh out of eggs. No eggs, none at all.
There was just strawberries and blueberries and the egg cooler.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yesterday morning, this is weirdo. Knowing that the house was
going to be full and it was going to be
a loud day. When I got up yesterday morning, I
watched the eagle cam from Big Bear on my TV.
I cannot tell you how calming it was to watch
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an eagle right at sunrise, like beautiful sun up on
the corner, incredible view, Shadow and Jackie have a great apartment,
three eggs and just watching the eagle like get up
and move around and kind of fucks with the little
straw and everything and then settle back down.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
On why do you I have the eagle cam up
the entire show every day when I have to sit
here and listen to you?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is that what it is? That's how you deal with it.
It was just so strange that I even thought of
it and then sat there and it was on for
a long time, like an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was gonna say, I mean, I didn't sit.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There the entire hour, but my wife came downstairs and
is like, what uh, what's going on? What are you doing?
What's going the dogs? Sitting on my lap and we're
both just watching the Eagle. Did we know? I just
realized we knew that the Eagles were going to win
that game?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh my god, I did not just I jug I
just made that connection as well.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
A YouTube good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So. I absolutely loved all the commercials focused on women
and girls. I thought that was awesome and I'd totally
love to see more of that. What I didn't like
was the easy commercial. And what I'm hearing is it
was a local Fox station told him that spot. They
should absolutely be ashamed of themselves. You go to a
(02:04):
website where the only thing you can purchase is a
swastikash shirt. Come on, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I even said I think last night, like, isn't that
isn't there a law against this? Like can't the FCC
step in and say we don't sell swastikas at Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The story will come out. But we had somebody at
the party last night who knew some of the inside
information about how those commercials are sold and what happened.
And I don't want to recap it because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You don't I to talk about side of school.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I don't want to talk outside of school, and I
don't want to get anybody in trouble for anything. But
yet something fell through and basically Kanye was able to
put a bid in for a commercial that he produced
on his iPhone.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Like he said, his ex account is deactivated after he
went on an anti semitic rant. The account is gone
as of this morning. He declared himself a Nazi in
one post praised Adolf Hitler and others. Is not the
first FIR time his account has been deactivated, but after
eight months of his account being inactive back in twenty
(03:09):
twenty three, Elon Musk reinstated it. He was active during
the Super Bowl yesterday. If anyone cares, I don't. Thankfully
nobody was updating us on his phosts. The chief executive
of go fund Me also had to be evacuated from
his house in Altadena last month. His name is Tim Cadogan,
(03:32):
no stranger to two disasters. He is in his home office.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The night of January seventh, he hears helicopters before he
realizes anything else is going on, and within a couple
of minutes, he and his family had evacuated their house
there in Altadena. Since the fires broke out on January seventh,
gofund me has raised, or I should say, people have
(03:56):
donated more than two hundred and fifty million dollars through
the go fund me website two d and fifty mini,
which is well over all of the money that was
donated through that site last year for all natural disasters.
And this is just one.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm wondering when the tide is going to turn for GoFundMe,
when people are going to when it's going to be ruined.
I mean, because right now, it's like, you know, there's
you know, just off the top of my head, things
like wildfire relief or people battling cancer and things like that. Right,
I'm just thinking of things that I've donated to recently, right,
(04:36):
unexpected costs that pop up out of nowhere in your
life due to tragedy, tragic circumstances usually, right.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But you well, it's not as if you have to
I mean, you have to find a thing to give to.
It's not as if these are just random things that
pop up, say in your timeline, and you could, but.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
They are I mean if you look at Facebook or
or Instagram or what have you. These are things that
pop up from individuals you know, yeah, but not like
you're seeking them out. I've never I've never gone to
go fund me and said where can I give. It's
usually a friend or family member that shares something where
you're like, oh, I had no idea, so and so
was going through that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, But then you have to take another step. I
mean you have to go through and actually do the
donation through through the website. This is interesting that they
I'm just.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Wondering when it gets to the point where people take
advantage of it to where you're turned off. I'm shoating.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I'm sure there's people that do it all the time,
especially if an event like this, like two hundred and
fifty million dollars that's been raised through GoFundMe for different
fire relief, whether it's families, whether it's schools, businesses, something
like that. There's plenty of room, unfortunately, for people to
grift off of that and take just a slight take.
If they took one tenth of one percent, you're still
(05:57):
making all kinds of money off of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Catherine Barger, a county supervisor, had said at one point
that she was upset she was forced to pay a
ninety five dollars fee to go fund me to make
a five hundred dollars donation to a friend whose home
had been lost in the fire, and said that she
was shocked. Now Go fund Me says, no, no, no, there's
no way that we charged you a fee. But what
they do now is after you make a donation, they
(06:23):
ask you bless you. They ask you if you want
to add a tip right, which can be a percentage
of how much it is that you gave. The company
does charge two point nine percent on all the donations,
as well as thirty cents for a transaction no matter
how big it is, but it covers their credit card
and the bank transaction fees. And they also said that
they draw revenue from a subscription based software company that
(06:47):
helps clients raise money. And the other thing to keep
in mind is there is some contention between go fund
me or a private fundraiser like that, and if you
take money from them, whether you are still eligible to
receive Federal Emergency Management Agency funds. So before before you
(07:09):
start cashing in those chips, maybe keep an eye on
whether the government will come and help you out.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Have you ever wondered about the language of cows?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yes, so have I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
There is now a linguist learning to speak the expressive
language of cows. It's not very pedestrian, shall we say,
It's quite complex. It's not just the cows and what
they say with their mouths. It's what they say with
their eyes, with their ears, with their.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Hoofs, their body language.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It's right well before we get to how to speak cow.
There is a great story at Orange County about a
teenager who has innovated to the point of detective being
able to detect wildfires installing it's soon to be installed.
These sensors are in Irvine. His name is Ryan Honoree.
(08:02):
He's sixteen. He's from Newport Beach studying at Stanford Online
High School, and he has been trying to detect wildfires
using AI.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't know how as a fifth grader he starts
working on AI, but that's when he says he started
after the campfire up in Paradise killed eighty five people
and burned one hundred and fifty thousand acres up in
Butte County. Said he created an early detection technology to
prevent wildfires, which later secured a grant and ultimately became
this product that he's working on, called Sensory AI or
(08:37):
CENSORII since our y first two letters in his name censai.
AI already got recognition in the form of an Office
of Naval Research Naval Science Award and also won the
Grand prize at the twenty nineteen Ignite Innovation Student Challenge.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Apparently uses AI to create a network of sensors that
analyze smoke and heat data to alert firefighters when a
brush fire begins when it ignites, he said, the sixteen
year old with greater than twelve hundred feet a line
of sight and around three hundred feet of non line
sight were able to detect fire that's smaller than one foot.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Orange County Fire Authority is on this guy's team. They're
now working with him, according to the website, to turn
his platform into a deployable product, and since the creation
of his artificial intelligence, he says he's received funding from
Irvine Ranch Conservancy for his project as well. That's that's
(09:37):
what I want AI for. I don't want AI for
the Jimmy Johnson Tribute. Yeah, a good fight, That's what
I wanted for.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I did watch the game, and I didn't have a
preference as to who I wanted to win. But in
talking to people today, it really surprised me how many
say that it was a fixed game, that wh mahone
he through it, through the game. What's your take on that? Wait,
you believe I missed the first part?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It was a real game. Why did she believe it
was fixed?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Because people have been saying it was fixed?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Would they why would they throw the game? If you
watch the Chiefs all year, you noted it has not
been a well oiled machine. And that just seemed like
a team that didn't show up. It seemed like a
team that didn't want it, wasn't hungry enough, and just
didn't show up. That happens from time to time in
the NFL. You don't want it to happen on Super
Bowl Sunday, but we've seen week three, week seven, week twelve,
(10:32):
or teams just for whatever reason they don't show up.
And the Chiefs did not. And you know, you want
to talk about all the advertising machine that is Patrick
Mahomes and Travis Kelcey they were great. They were great.
Travis Kelsey's thirty seven years old, folks.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's why everybody's talking about him retiring now. It's not
just a wishful thinking. Yes, it's real, it's a reality.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
They have had magic, they have had things. Patrick Mahomes
is magical when it comes to extending plays and making happened.
And yes, they've got great chemistry, but that kind of
stuff runs out. It's why it's impossible to have a
three peat. It's why it doesn't happen usually. It's very
hard to keep a team intact and winning for that
long of a time.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And by the way, and conspiracy is hard. Conspiracy is hard.
The idea that that's what I mean, the idea that
you would have a player throw a game if if
Patrick Mahomes was doing it by himself, or that you've
got a league that somehow can dictate the outcome of
a game for the benefit of what the benefit of
(11:33):
one team. It doesn't benefit the NFL if they've got
the Chiefs and everyone else.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Listen, in my advanced age, I haven't met a conspiracy theory.
I did not give at least a little bit of
attention to it. Yeah, I'm into it, but this one
I cannot tell you. It holds one drop of water
water water. Federal judge has found today that the Trump
(11:59):
administration has no fully followed his order to unfreeze federal
spending told the White House to release all the money.
This is US District Court Judge John McConnell found there's
evidence that some federal grants and loans are still not
going out to recipients in order that the cash be released.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Five former Treasury secretaries wrote an op ed peace in
The New York Times, calling out the president's latest moves
at the Treasury Department as a direct threat to america
Democracy's financial backbone. Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geitner, Jacob Blue,
Janet Yellen and all signed on. Of course, there are
all veterans of democratic administrations. They condemned what they describe
(12:40):
as arbitrary and capricious political control of federal payments. Elon
Musko over the weekend put out a lengthy tweet that
described some of the things that the Department of Government Efficiency,
his DOJE group, and US Treasury have agreed to start doing.
(13:01):
It's amazing that we have allowed government to operate in
such a way where they don't have to do the
simple things that you and I have to Wright.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I mean, we've seen it at a state level. We've
seen it countless times. I mean maybe you and I
more because we covered the budget up in Sacramento when
we were reporters there, but we've seen it at this
level of at least when we were in our early twenties,
when we first were covering Sacramento and we were like, wait, what, like,
you just think you can spend X amount of dollars
(13:31):
even though you don't have that in the bank, and
then you run and you operated a deficit forever. What
that doesn't work in our homes?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Or you're willing to pay an entity, a person, a
company that has ridiculously.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Eight hundred dollars inflated eight hundred dollars for a chair
that costs twelve dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Right, I mean those types of things, and then especially
right now, I hate I hate tax season. I don't.
It's not that I'm unwilling to pay taxes. I know
the government needs the money to work the rigamarole, And
it's the fear they they drill into you, this fear
(14:13):
that if you get audited, your life is over or
if you underpay, or you like it's over and you're screwed.
But they don't have the same requirements for their own
financial health.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Their own financial keeping is atrocious.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, I will do that at the top of the air.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Let's talk cow, shall we? Quite literally?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I love the name Leoni Cornips.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I feel like you'd play a really good Leoni Cornips.
Leoni Cornips is a socio linguist at the Merton's Institute
in Amsterdam and the Netherlands YEP. They usually specialize there
in the study of Dutch language and culture. A lot
of wooden shoes, but this woman has taken a turn
(14:59):
into the animal worlds. Shall we speak?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
She has?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Leoni has spent her summer holidays for years on a farm,
and from the beginning nearly she was struck by the
different personalities of cows. Individual cows. Not one cow is
like the other cow. No, they are very individual in
their personalities. She read an essay by a philosopher that
asked why linguists never study animals, and they say it
(15:27):
affected her deeply. She felt like the cows had been ignored,
that the cows intelligence and social habits lend themselves to
be studied.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Good research subjects for a linguist and obviously as a
Dutch person. Apparently there's all kinds of cows all over
the place in that part of Europe, so she decided
for cows to be the subject.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well. Also, their love of cheese is known far and
wide in the Netherlands. They love their cheese. They're like you.
There was a cheese just last night on the charcuteri plate.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It was like a dill that Yes, what's a I
think it's a dill Havardi?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yes, I was going to say, was it a Havardi?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I liked that cheese.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Good cheese.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I need to I need to know more about the cheese,
like I need a picture of the cheese the label.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Anyway, back to the cows.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
My stomach is rumbling because I want all of the
food again from yesterday. No, I know. Anyway, this woman
is using dairy cows to push back on the idea
that they don't have language, And in fact, there are
other people who kind of work in this space of
animal communication and they don't describe it as language so
(16:50):
much as it is just a way of communicating between animals.
And she's Michelle Fournier is an assistant professor of specializing
and acoustic ecology. They see animals, and she said that
their system of communication is not less than human language,
it's just it's just different than what we think of.
(17:11):
So when Leoni Cornips starts studying, she looks at things
like the pitch of the cow sounds and if they
correlate with behavior, that might be one way to determine
whether the cows are doing well or not.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
She also noticed how the cows use their bodies as
an instrument to get to know other cows.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
So as an example, she she starts doing this and
she likes this one male fleck via I think that's
a kind of a cow. And she goes to greet
this cow and the cow is kind of put off
by the fact that she would just approach, and she
said she had to learn sort of the avoid eye
(17:54):
contact at first, maybe play a little hard to get
you know what I'm saying, and then the cow would
kind of warm up to her. But also when they
communicate with each other, for example, a mother calls her calf,
it sometimes takes about a minute for the calf to
actually respond.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, the time is filled with bodily gestures. Ear positioning,
next stretching integral to cow language. We think of the
ability to wiggle our ears as a party trick. Nobody
wiggled their ears yesterday. For a cow, it appears to
be fundamental, they say to communication. The first sentence in
a conversation with a cow is likely to involve the
(18:35):
movement of the ears and a look. She said, And
I about that cow that she took a liking to,
She said this, I was always so happy to see
him that when I got to his meadow, I walked
straight towards him and tried to touch him immediately.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's already office.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Set that aside.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
She also says one difference between humans in many animals
is the use of environment. Leoni said that she found
how cow communication leans on surroundings. For example, one herd,
individual cows were using their bodies to bang on the
iron fence to communicate with the rest of the herd
at feeding time, and she viewed that again in her mind,
(19:18):
that's language. We might not use language, we would say
more of a communication tool, but that she noticed cows
responding to her differently depending on whether she entered a
barn with solid walls or open sides. And since cows
on different farms have different physical features that they're surrounded by,
this offers different opportunities for this communicative expression, this linguistic expression.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I noticed this one's during a visit to the Wildlife
Learning Center in the Valley when the giraffe that lives
there continued to bang its head against aluminum or roof.
And I'm wondering, what is this giraffe trying to say
to us as he would bang his head repeatedly against
a wall, Take me home, to which I said, you know,
(20:03):
when I'm at work, I also sometimes want to just
bang my head against a wall.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But the problem is these are all padded walls. I
don't know. I know they know that realization.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
There's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. And I've watched the Eagle in the morning, yeah,
and in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What you are onto something? Do you see how the
universe responds when you give it your attention?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I guess so great show as always.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah. I love the commercials, except you're right that seal commercial.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I was thinking, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That was hey? Sounding great? Looked a little weird? Yes,
I thought, man, that's gonna they're going to pay for
that one anyway, And I don't even know. I don't
even know what it was what it was for actually.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Anyway, Mountain dew, it did look like I wanted to
get out onto a boat.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Boats can be fun.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Boats can be fun.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Boats are a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Boats are a lot. I don't want to have to ever,
like do anything with a boat.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You want to borrow someone's boat, I.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Don't want to borrow it even I don't want that responsibility.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But you don't want to have it, you know. I
don't want to look at a boat. I've decided never
mind done. Boats are awful. A couple stories we're following.
President Trump says he's going to announce the United States
will impose twenty five percent tariffs on all steel and
aluminum imports, including from Canada and Mexico, as well as
other import duties, tomorrow or Wednesday. Trump also has reaffirmed
(21:30):
he's going to announce these reciprocal tariffs. It means the
United States would impose import duties on any product in
cases in which another country has levy duties on American goods.
He got a lot of stuff done, apparently while he
was on Air Force one flying from Florida to go
to the Super Bowl yesterday. The head of the UN
aid's agency says the number of new HIV infections could
(21:52):
jump more than six times by twenty twenty nine if
the biggest AIDS program is dropped. The UNA un AIDS
executive director had warned that millions of people could die
and more resistant strains of AIDS could emerge after a
USAID and CUT had cut some of their funding.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What is right?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Does that look like? That looked like a fake picture,
that was source perspective, like a weird that was real.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's why I was pointing. A major atmospheric river storm
is barreling towards the coast. I need scary music, I know,
but I don't want to make Calloween music. We should
get scary like scary.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Music for when the media tries to scare us, right
like woo stupid evil media.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well they are stupid. It's like, do you think we're
gonna watch your freaking news to because you scare us
with your double double Doppler special scary radar. No, that's
not gonna keep me coming. It might in a twenty years,
but not right now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Do you realize We did not invite Henry to Carlow.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't want him seeing us when we're in our
like relaxed times. I would have felt like we had
to be on like really good. I don't know. I
would have had to get the midget for sure. If
Henry was coming.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
My wife said she would die one year.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's going to happen. I don't know when. I wonder
if the rates are higher on Super Bowl was a
busy day. But I've never been to a super Bowl
party with a midget.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't know very many people who have.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Like what would your wife offer him? Like, how would
that go? What do you mean would she be smiling
the whole time? Like would she just be silently smiling?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
She's good at playing it cool, Yeah, but if.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
There was a midget in her home, I mean for
I mean, that would maybe be the time that she
lost her cool. Maybe it's like she might It might
have an effect anyway. The atmospheric storm otherwise is February,
the February of our youth now has a name, and
(24:03):
it's called an atmospheric river. This is supposed to hit
before Friday. It's expected to be the strongest storm of
the winter. So far, which is nothing compared to what
we've had what last week? When it now, I did
hear Mark Thompson as I was driving home Friday Friday
talk about how he was white knuckling his drive from
(24:24):
Pasadena to the West Side. I think it was so
I don't want to minimize anybody's experience. My experience was nothing.
My experience was it sprinkled a little bit, like I
didn't even put a rain jacket on at all, no hood, nothing,
But maybe that's just where I lived.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Raw Dog that rainstorm. I sure did that. Now, this
is if you just go by the sheer amount of
rain that they're expecting. They said between two and four
inches along the coast and the valleys, up to eight
inches in the mountains and the foothills. That is that's significant.
That's a good storm. It would start eight Wednesday, basically
all day Thursday would rain and then taper off into Friday.
(25:05):
So by the time you get out for your I
don't know your found time something, then it should be gone.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
There could be some mudslides, there could be debris sliding
off hillsides, There could be some roads that have some issues,
they say Santa Barbara, San Louis Counties could see twelve
to twenty four hours or more of rainfall, and that's
going to come down pretty quickly, causing some significant debris flow.
There Again, those areas more than prepared. This is what
(25:34):
happens every year pretty much.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I do like that. This is a six page article
on a six page article on February, Thank you, am
I just jaded where it's like these stories that come
up every year, whether it be you know, rain in
February or.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, just common sense things, well where we have to
act like they're new or they're shocking or they're different.
They happen every year. You just get to be a
certain age where you're like, yeah, it's gonna rain in February.
I'm not freaking out about it.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's almost as if the La Times is paying writers
by letter by word now.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Or they're from Mars and this is their first time here.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, instead of writing the headline a storm's a common
they write major atmospheric river storm barreling toward Califoria, like.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
We're gonna be wiped out, like the meteor is hitting.
There are plenty of things to be scared about in
this world. Can we not make rain one of them.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, it is California.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
No I would say I'm depressed, but the sun is out.
My seasonal effective disorder is gone.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Wipe clean. We'll do swamp Watch when we come back
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