November 20, 2025 • 26 mins
Tiffany Hobbs joins the show as a special guest host! Volatile on wall street. Epstein files and what’s inside them. 3i/Atlas and why NASA says its just a comet. Holiday Meal Game Plan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Some important and fun stuff going on today. We'll tell
you about Disney tickets that we're going to be giving
away a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We have strained science.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Of course, yesterday NASA came out with their big update
on what is three I Atlas. Still not convinced it's
just a comet, but they say it's just a comet.
There's a whole world that is approaching us at light speed,
and that is the holidays are coming, and with the
holidays come family, and with family comes conflict in many cases,
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not all, but in many cases.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So we'll talk about that. But a big, huge thank
you today to Tiffany Hobbs for coming in and sitting.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
In for ship talk about conflict and family and I'm here.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Thanks for letting me be here. Gary, tell everybody about yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean during the week, we don't get to hear
very much of Oh go Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Well, I am on Saturdays from five to seven. I
have the Saturdays with Tiffany's show, and I fill in
whenever I'm asked here because I need the money, and
I also enjoy being here. But I'm a teacher by day,
so my students are there without me, and I prepped
them for this day, and I teach special education to
a very select group of kids.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's my background as well as you know, some dabbling
here in radio and LA native more or less born
in New York, raised here, USC graduate as well. So
I'm a local person. I'm a local person. I know
of the things that you discussed and that we talk about.
I can cite things during Tim Conway's coverage of car chases.
(01:46):
That's my Texico, right as Petros would say. But yeah,
so that's a little bit about me. I don't want
to incriminate myself too much with more information.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But I'm curious about the specificity of special education. What
you men that, what kind of what's the specific flavor
for you?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
The flavor in this case deals with kids with behavioral challenges.
These are the students who are a little older, eighth
and ninth graders who struggle to be in the mainstream
environment of education, and so we provide them an alternative
and then they kind of reinvigorate their love of learning,
or they don't. But at any rate, we try, but
(02:24):
you definitely try. We certainly try.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I come from a line of teachers, and it is
fun to see people get into the business. I've always
said that if I wasn't doing this, I would probably
be a teacher. Oh you hate yourself?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And my wife, my wife has said many times it's
simply because I like to be the smartest person in
the room, Okay, which I don't feel like I am.
But if I was among thirteen fourteen year olds, i'd
have I'd corner the market.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I will tell you this scary these I was actually
talking with Richie about this off air, this group of kids,
and you're parent, you understand because of how much they're
exposed to the world via social media and all the
other mediums, they're very smart. They're very intellectually capable. They
just make poor choices, but they are often the smarter
people in the room.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
That is a funny.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I did the story earlier this week about a theory
of dumb that suggested that in the twentieth century, sociologists, culturalists,
they were all concerned that the increasing pace of technology
was going to make us all dumber. But over the
course of the twentieth century, worldwide IQs went up an
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average of three points every decade. Then you get to
about two thousand and seven introduction of the iPhone or
something like that, and not only does it plateau, that
it actually begins to fall off and our IQ scores
have gone down. Now, that's not necessarily to say that
we're dumber. I think to your point, it's that we're
making worse decisions even though we have so much more
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information available to us.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Idiocracy Idiocracy, the film comes to mind, and it's certainly happening.
And like you said, and I know we're going to
talk about AI a little bit later. The more advanced
we become, the more dependent we become on AI and
the computer to think for us, and our own abilities
are starting to wane. So you know, we're catching kids
now at this point in my field and trying to
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make sure that they don't turn into the idiocracy prophecy.
But it's kind of it's kind of trending that way.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We've been watching Wall Street.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I mentioned yesterday a couple big indicators that were supposed
to come out Nvidia gave its earning support yesterday, which
were spectacular, and there was a stronger than expected jobs
report that came out this morning. It had actually been
delayed because of the government shutdown. The Dow Jones Industrial
Average was up more than six hundred points earlier today
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it's now down two hundred oh so whatever happened in
the first couple of hours has completely been flushed down
the toilet s and P five hundred and NASDAC are
also down into negative territory now, so this could be
a pretty volatile day on Wall Street.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Something will watch.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Did you see who also is doing very well on
Wall Street?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Walmart? Walmart's killing the game.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Uh my dog, just a dump in Walmart yesterday. I
don't know why, if if that's an indication or means anything,
but it's prophecy. I don't warre you guys all right
when we come back. Obviously, there's a lot this week
about the Epstein files and what goes on. There's some
interesting aspects of the actual physical evidence that the Department
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of Justice has, in what form it comes, how they
can release it, that sort of thing, and it's all
spelled out in the legislation that President Trump signed into loss.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So we'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Tiffany Hobbs in for Shannon today. A couple stories that
we're following. The impacts are probably not anything close to
what we saw last weekend, but there is some rain
expected to come in tonight, even a possibility of some thunderstorms.
And they did mention a slim possibility of tornadoes. Oh fine,
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following this weather system tonight into tomorrow, but we will
almost certainly see some strong wind gusts, et cetera. The
Health Department is also telling you to avoid water contact
at beaches.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
We're just a disgusting human, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
If you just drive down pH you see throngs of
people in the surf because the wind is higher and
people want to catch a good wave.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
They're not listening.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Keep your mouth closed, yeah, like you're going to get
some pool water. California is also projected to face an
eighteen billion dollar deficit next year. The Legislative Analyst Office
projected the shortfall in a report that came out yesterday,
marked the fourth deficit in a row, including last year's
twelve billion dollar deficit that could be something of an
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anchor over around Gavin Newsom's neck because he continues to
campaign for president unofficially. So the President did sign into
law yesterday the Jeffrey Epstein Transparency Act, I think is
what it was officially called. And this of course forces
the Justice Department to release within thirty days the files
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regarding the investigations into Jeffrey Epstein. And we've kind of
detailed some of the things that they can and have
to redact, including names of victims, anything that shows graphic
imagery that that sort of stuff. But it raised the
question in my mind of what is what do they
actually have physically, like, what did they Is it just
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a office boxes? You know those filebox bankers boxes of
files over and over again.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Right, You're wondering, is there some Manila folder sitting somewhere
that's now been opened and now all these.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Things are falling out.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But whatever the case, it's certainly a lot of interest peaked.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So I found out according to the according to the
Department of Justice, there are forty computers and other electronic
devices forty There are twenty six storage drives, So think
like an external hard drive that you might have seventy CDs. Wait,
what year is this exactly? Elmer as CD is like,
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it's not even worth it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Never mind.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's like a thumb drive that spins around and around
and around real fast.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
It's googling.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Really six recording devices, which would be funny if it
was one of those old radio shack cassette players or
the home alone one right boot box, and they said
together those devices hold about three hundred gigabytes of data.
Then there's sixty pieces of physical evidence, which includes hard
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copies of photographs. They have pages of hand written notes,
employee lists, and travel logs, which everybody's really excited about,
even though a lot of those have already been revealed.
Included in all of this, they said, is a large
volume of images of Jeffrey Epstein with different people, celebrities
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faces you'd recognize, Images and videos of victims who are
either miners or appear to be miners if they're unidentified.
And then over ten thousand downloaded videos and images of
illegal child sex abuse material and other pornographys.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Oh, this is a lot of bad.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now, that stuff obviously would not be what is released
if it's identifiable, If a victim is identifiable in these pictures.
They would never release that, and they're obviously not going
to put out the government's.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Not going to put out child sex material.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But there are things that the Department of Justice could
do to kind of slow roll this which would not
look good. Republican senators who I mean, there was some
question whether the Senate was even going to pass this
thing in the first place, But some Republican senators have
come out and they are warning Pam Bondy at the
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Department of Justice, do not slow roll this. This was
a four hundred and twenty seven to one vote in
the House and unanimous in the Senate. Clearly, we want
this done, and we want it done quickly and with integrity.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
If you just try and do this and like you're saying,
slow roll it or kind of hint at things and
not necessarily be fully transparent, it's only going to make
this situation that much worse. You got to come out
with it, and you have to hit it hard.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And whatever faith people have in government in their agencies
would be would be more eroded, oh yeah, than currently
they have, simply because this was something that Pam Bondy specifically,
since the ball is now in her court had said
was so important, it was so important to get this
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in information out there. And if you remember that event
back in February, I guess it was where she had
these binders and this was the first trunch of material
that was going to be coming out of that visual representation.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
We're getting down to this situation was evident.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And then saying in the summertime, well it wouldn't. There's
nothing else there and it's not appropriate for us to
release what is there that wait, what if that was
the first trunch in February and then you go, but
there's nothing left in the bag that I mean, that's
why people were so up in arms about this on
both sides of the political life exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
It It's definitely become a nonpartisan issue. It is, like
you say, both sides are saying, just get on with us.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Either either exonerate or.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Implicate, but do something at this point, because we can't
just keep pretending that it doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
They do.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The evidence is there, the files are there, what's in them?
We're still coming we're figuring out what, but we got
to do something.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Here's the concern that I have, and like you said,
we're talking about AI later on in terms of the
materials that can now be generated through AI that are
in some cases indistinguishable from human content, and that is,
this is a perfect opportunity for somebody to generate documents, images,
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whatever that do implicate people that are fabricated that would
be hard to explain away.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
And they already are in some degree. There are images,
of course that are floating around the Internet. Some of
you may have seen them, which are clearly to many
of us with some sort of media literacy, fake, fraudulent.
But for you, your eighty five year old grandmother who
has no clue, who sees it. They're buying it, They're
thinking it's all true, So the manipulation is possible.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
It's right.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you accept the alien overlords that are about to
enslave all of us?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I hope? So do I accept? I invite?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I'm the one in Independence Day on top of that
tall tower holding up the sign please take me.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
At this point, we'll talk about what NASA says about
three I at lists. They had a big news conference
yesterday right towards the end of our show, so we'll
get into that, and then we'll hear from Avi Loeb.
Of course, this Harvard astronomer who believes there may be
something else to this, maybe edging his files.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Do you think so?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Maybe aliens.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
There is a funeral going on today at the National
Cathedral in Washington for former Vice President Dick Cheney, memorialized
right now. His couple of his grandkids got up and
spoke a short time ago, and they're doing songs.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And hymns in his honor.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Cheney died earlier this month at eighty four, from complications
of pneumonia, cardiac and vascular disease. Every living former president,
I believe is there, at least every living former vice
president is there. But not President Trump and not Vice
President Vance. Apparently they were not invited.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Preparing for the alien invasion. Perhaps they may be, Maybe
they may be.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
NASA yesterday came out talking about three I atlas and said, guys,
it's a comment.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
I'd like to address the rumors right at the beginning.
I think it's important that we talk about that this
object is a comment. It looks and behaves like a
comet and has and all evidence points to it being
a comment. But this one came from outside the Solar system.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Listen, I've seen these movies before.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's exactly what NASA would say if it wasn't a comic,
because I tell you it's a comic.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Otherwise you're panicking and now you have mass just hysteria.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Kent Hecken Lively his name, is an author and an
astronomer and has written books about these types of things,
not just sort of extraterrestrial stuff, but what does the
government know and what do we know? And what the
delta there between those?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
You know, in my recently released book Catastrophic Disclosure, what
we talk about is government lies about UFOs. You know,
we can be told that they're not going to tell
us things because they want to panic us, and then
we're told things to make us panic. Now this fits
into that pattern, and I think what the government just
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needs to do is tell us the truth and then
we'll figure out how much we should panic over it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And then finally AVI Lobe, and we've talked about AVI
Lobe many times in this show. He's the guy who says, yeah, yeah,
it's probably a comet, but all on that one percent
or even one tenth of one percent chance that it's
not a comet, we need to prepare because that is
a black Swan earth change, humanity changing moment. If in fact,
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this is something technological, that's a.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Big butt, that's a very very big It.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
Has a lot of anomalies, about eight of them that
I listed, each of them with a small probability. And
my point is that although it may well be a
comet and of natural origin, you know, it could also
be something like a trojan horse, you know, a black
Swan event where we say it's very unlikely for a
spaceship to arrive at our backyard. But nevertheless we should
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keep that as a possibility because the implications would be huge.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
The implications.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Again, yes, he's right, most likely just to comment, nothing
to worry about. It's going to come and go, you know,
it will be What is it closest to the Earth?
I think on December nineteenth, great, which is still one
hundred and seventy million miles away in terms of you know,
you and I commuting the world, that's a long way.
In terms of us in a solar system, that's not
very far.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Just in time for the holidays, and I think Nicola Fox,
Associate Administrator of NASA's Science Mission Directorate made the understatement
of the century. She said, it's natural to wonder what
it is. We love that the world wondered along with us. Well,
you think, Nicola, of course we're wondering.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
There's an aspect of this that I think is missing
that we don't spend a lot of time on. Yeah,
the idea of alien life approaching the Earth is crazy.
We can't wrap our heads around that. There's another aspect
of this that I hadn't heard before. And this is
an astronomy professor David Jewett from over at UCLA that says,
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and he says, this specific comet, first seen a few
years ago, has been around for a very long time.
Speaker 10 (17:37):
This thing, we think was ejected from another planetary system
around another star. Again, we don't know where, the billions
of years ago, probably long before the Solar System and
the Sun existed.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, wrap your head around that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's old, before our planet, before our Sun, before any
planet in our Solar System existed. This comet was flying around.
So where did it come from? Well, the void, Okay,
there's that. One of the anomalies that Avi Lob says
is that it came from the same direction of a
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radio signal that was detected back in the seventies. They
call it the Wow signal because the scientist who saw
it said wow exactly, and it was some kind of
a pattern that existed that they thought could not just
be a random pattern of signals. I don't even remember
what it was specifically, but that they thought there's a
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possibility that it's not random that this comet came from
that same tiny slice of the galaxy, that same direction.
So that was one of the things that Avi Lobe
said could potentially point to this being something other than
a comic.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, let me ask you this, Gary.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Let's just say it is an alien spacecraft, and you
are given the opportunity to go up, Gary Hoffman, and
and check out what's up there, poke around kind of
see what's going on. Are you going No, No, definitively no. No, no,
no interest.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I'm too no.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I like my dog, I like my wife. Not necessarily
in that order. It's a I have zero sense of
adventure when it comes to that stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And then it's like, are these et aliens or are
these predator versus alien aliens?
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Are they here to be fun and be pets for us?
Are they here to use us as pets? Is this
out for food? Or yeah, are we being harvested? There
are a lot of questions for them to say. Yea
good reference that we're glad you wondered. Well, yes, there
are lots of things to consider when we come back.
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Holiday dinners are approaching. Do you have specific road maps
to get through holiday dinners?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Man, And I'm not talking about the I'm talking about
the personalities. How do you make sure Uncle Fred doesn't
ask Grandma about immigration or cousin Joey asks Grandpa Jim
about all the gay veterans that he knows from Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Don't talk about gay veterans that Thanksgiving. Let that bes
to talk about the brown food. Wait until Christmas for that.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We'll do that.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Let us know, by the way, leave us a talk
back on the iHeart app. Just hit that little red button.
It's got a white microphone in it. Tell us what
kind of roadmap you have to get through Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We'll start with that one because Christmas comes later.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Tiffany Hobbs has joined us today in places Shannon. I
have the top of the hour. We're going to talk
about this new LA County plan to end a veteran homelessness.
They say they have they have an idea. I got
an idea, folks, So we can hope that it is successful.
Concepts of a plan, concept a plan for a plan.
There you go, something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh, let me do that one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You have a jeopardy I do.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Our jeopardy question is what is an elephant?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
What is an elephant?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
So dig deep, try and figure out what this jeopardy
question is.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Do you ever play jeopardy? I? Have you got it backwards?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Did I? Did I do that wrong?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. The answer is what
is an elephant?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Here's the thing, here's the funny thing.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I take it too.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
No, no, no, no, I'll just tell you why I did
it like this.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I'm not going to botch my first time doing Jeopardy
with Gary Hoffman.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
The reason why is because Richie prepared everything and he
stapled this down onto the you know, onto our sheets here,
and I looked and I went, that's upside down. Let
me turn it over. And I turned it over and
I read the.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Wrong because it says, it says question.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Making sure people we're listening. Should I do it again?
Do we need a new one?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Okay? Jeopardy round two?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
This African savannah species has more curve in its tusks
than the African forest species.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
What is the answer tooth tiger?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
African savannah species of this has more curve in its
tusks than the African forest species.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What is an elephant?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Ooh gosh, Gary, it's like you just you really pulled
that knowledge out of you.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
When we edit that, it's gonna sound great. U.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
There is a new study that suggests that forty seven
percent of adults would prefer to sit at the kid's
table during holiday dinners. Forty seven percent so they rather
sit at the kid's table just to avoid uncomfortable conversations.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, I probably in one of them. You definitely
want and not get into the things that can ruin
Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
The survey says fifty percent of adults have mapped out
what they say is a conversation survival strategy before sitting
down to holiday meals.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
How depressing is that that we have?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You have to think about it going into it?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, just to prepare yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Growing numbers said that the kids the kids table would
be like a VIP lounge. Millennials lead that charge. Sixty
two percent say that they would rather sit at the
kids table. Politics is the most banned holiday topic when
it comes to meal time. Politics top the list of
forty two percent Personal finances You ever talked about personal
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finances around the Thanksgiving dinner table?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I try not to talk about them anytime, let alone
over food.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
No comments about appearance or wait.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Perfect time to tell your cousin that they've put on.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
A well Jennifer, it looks like you've put on an
extra twenty five pounds in the last year.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Maybe don't have that second helping Jennifer.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Who weighs more? Cousin Bobby or this turkey.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This survey was actually done by a winery and asked
respondents to name the one question they absolutely do not
want to hear the holiday season, and the answers read
like just the best awkward questions you could ever ask.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
When are you getting married or having kids? Is the
is on the list?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
No, no, what about the so how's that diet going?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Oh? Perfect time?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The ever popular who did you vote? For don't don't.
One person wrote can I borrow money? And another said
the question you're not supposed to ask is when are
you getting your life together?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
This is a peek into the households of our common
a mayor what brothers and sisters here?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And it's bleak.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Religion spiritual beliefs came in fourth. Previous romantic relationships. Hey,
whatever happened to that girl that you were dating? While
you're next to your current mental health, working career, personal goals.
All of that stuff made the People's List. We'd love
to know what it is that you avoid. What roadmap
do you have for your holiday dinners? You can leave
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us a talk back on the iHeart app just by
hitting that little microphone button and leaves us a message.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Hey Gary, this is Gary.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Hey Gary, I will both serve and respect my alien overlord.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
There was another guy who said, let me see if
I can find it real quick.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The best way to get through holiday dinners is to
get a metric ton of weed. Okay, and I don't
know if you ingested all yourself. Maybe you throw some
into the stuffing or something.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Like that little extra garnish on the turkey.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm back, La County's plan to end veteran homelessness. We'll
talk about it. Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Some important and fun stuff going on today. We'll tell
you about Disney tickets that we're going to be giving
away a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
We have strained science.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Of course, yesterday NASA came out with their big update
on what is three I Atlas. Still not convinced it's
just a comet, but they say it's just a comet.
There's a whole world that is approaching us at light speed,
and that is the holidays are coming, and with the
holidays come family, and with family comes conflict in many cases,
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not all, but in many cases.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So we'll talk about that. But a big, huge thank
you today to Tiffany Hobbs for coming in and sitting.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
In for ship talk about conflict and family and I'm here.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Thanks for letting me be here. Gary, tell everybody about yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean during the week, we don't get to hear
very much of Oh go Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Well, I am on Saturdays from five to seven. I
have the Saturdays with Tiffany's show, and I fill in
whenever I'm asked here because I need the money, and
I also enjoy being here. But I'm a teacher by day,
so my students are there without me, and I prepped
them for this day, and I teach special education to
a very select group of kids.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
That's my background as well as you know, some dabbling
here in radio and LA native more or less born
in New York, raised here, USC graduate as well. So
I'm a local person. I'm a local person. I know
of the things that you discussed and that we talk about.
I can cite things during Tim Conway's coverage of car chases.
(01:46):
That's my Texico, right as Petros would say. But yeah,
so that's a little bit about me. I don't want
to incriminate myself too much with more information.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But I'm curious about the specificity of special education. What
you men that, what kind of what's the specific flavor
for you?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
The flavor in this case deals with kids with behavioral challenges.
These are the students who are a little older, eighth
and ninth graders who struggle to be in the mainstream
environment of education, and so we provide them an alternative
and then they kind of reinvigorate their love of learning,
or they don't. But at any rate, we try, but
(02:24):
you definitely try. We certainly try.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I come from a line of teachers, and it is
fun to see people get into the business. I've always
said that if I wasn't doing this, I would probably
be a teacher. Oh you hate yourself?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And my wife, my wife has said many times it's
simply because I like to be the smartest person in
the room, Okay, which I don't feel like I am.
But if I was among thirteen fourteen year olds, i'd
have I'd corner the market.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I will tell you this scary these I was actually
talking with Richie about this off air, this group of kids,
and you're parent, you understand because of how much they're
exposed to the world via social media and all the
other mediums, they're very smart. They're very intellectually capable. They
just make poor choices, but they are often the smarter
people in the room.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
That is a funny.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I did the story earlier this week about a theory
of dumb that suggested that in the twentieth century, sociologists, culturalists,
they were all concerned that the increasing pace of technology
was going to make us all dumber. But over the
course of the twentieth century, worldwide IQs went up an
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average of three points every decade. Then you get to
about two thousand and seven introduction of the iPhone or
something like that, and not only does it plateau, that
it actually begins to fall off and our IQ scores
have gone down. Now, that's not necessarily to say that
we're dumber. I think to your point, it's that we're
making worse decisions even though we have so much more
(04:01):
information available to us.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Idiocracy Idiocracy, the film comes to mind, and it's certainly happening.
And like you said, and I know we're going to
talk about AI a little bit later. The more advanced
we become, the more dependent we become on AI and
the computer to think for us, and our own abilities
are starting to wane. So you know, we're catching kids
now at this point in my field and trying to
(04:25):
make sure that they don't turn into the idiocracy prophecy.
But it's kind of it's kind of trending that way.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We've been watching Wall Street.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I mentioned yesterday a couple big indicators that were supposed
to come out Nvidia gave its earning support yesterday, which
were spectacular, and there was a stronger than expected jobs
report that came out this morning. It had actually been
delayed because of the government shutdown. The Dow Jones Industrial
Average was up more than six hundred points earlier today
(04:56):
it's now down two hundred oh so whatever happened in
the first couple of hours has completely been flushed down
the toilet s and P five hundred and NASDAC are
also down into negative territory now, so this could be
a pretty volatile day on Wall Street.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Something will watch.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Did you see who also is doing very well on
Wall Street?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Walmart? Walmart's killing the game.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Uh my dog, just a dump in Walmart yesterday. I
don't know why, if if that's an indication or means anything,
but it's prophecy. I don't warre you guys all right
when we come back. Obviously, there's a lot this week
about the Epstein files and what goes on. There's some
interesting aspects of the actual physical evidence that the Department
(05:38):
of Justice has, in what form it comes, how they
can release it, that sort of thing, and it's all
spelled out in the legislation that President Trump signed into loss.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So we'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Tiffany Hobbs in for Shannon today. A couple stories that
we're following. The impacts are probably not anything close to
what we saw last weekend, but there is some rain
expected to come in tonight, even a possibility of some thunderstorms.
And they did mention a slim possibility of tornadoes. Oh fine,
(06:17):
following this weather system tonight into tomorrow, but we will
almost certainly see some strong wind gusts, et cetera. The
Health Department is also telling you to avoid water contact
at beaches.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
We're just a disgusting human, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
If you just drive down pH you see throngs of
people in the surf because the wind is higher and
people want to catch a good wave.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
They're not listening.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Keep your mouth closed, yeah, like you're going to get
some pool water. California is also projected to face an
eighteen billion dollar deficit next year. The Legislative Analyst Office
projected the shortfall in a report that came out yesterday,
marked the fourth deficit in a row, including last year's
twelve billion dollar deficit that could be something of an
(07:04):
anchor over around Gavin Newsom's neck because he continues to
campaign for president unofficially. So the President did sign into
law yesterday the Jeffrey Epstein Transparency Act, I think is
what it was officially called. And this of course forces
the Justice Department to release within thirty days the files
(07:30):
regarding the investigations into Jeffrey Epstein. And we've kind of
detailed some of the things that they can and have
to redact, including names of victims, anything that shows graphic
imagery that that sort of stuff. But it raised the
question in my mind of what is what do they
actually have physically, like, what did they Is it just
(07:51):
a office boxes? You know those filebox bankers boxes of
files over and over again.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Right, You're wondering, is there some Manila folder sitting somewhere
that's now been opened and now all these.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Things are falling out.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But whatever the case, it's certainly a lot of interest peaked.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So I found out according to the according to the
Department of Justice, there are forty computers and other electronic
devices forty There are twenty six storage drives, So think
like an external hard drive that you might have seventy CDs. Wait,
what year is this exactly? Elmer as CD is like,
(08:30):
it's not even worth it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Never mind.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's like a thumb drive that spins around and around
and around real fast.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
It's googling.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Really six recording devices, which would be funny if it
was one of those old radio shack cassette players or
the home alone one right boot box, and they said
together those devices hold about three hundred gigabytes of data.
Then there's sixty pieces of physical evidence, which includes hard
(08:56):
copies of photographs. They have pages of hand written notes,
employee lists, and travel logs, which everybody's really excited about,
even though a lot of those have already been revealed.
Included in all of this, they said, is a large
volume of images of Jeffrey Epstein with different people, celebrities
(09:16):
faces you'd recognize, Images and videos of victims who are
either miners or appear to be miners if they're unidentified.
And then over ten thousand downloaded videos and images of
illegal child sex abuse material and other pornographys.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Oh, this is a lot of bad.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now, that stuff obviously would not be what is released
if it's identifiable, If a victim is identifiable in these pictures.
They would never release that, and they're obviously not going
to put out the government's.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Not going to put out child sex material.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But there are things that the Department of Justice could
do to kind of slow roll this which would not
look good. Republican senators who I mean, there was some
question whether the Senate was even going to pass this
thing in the first place, But some Republican senators have
come out and they are warning Pam Bondy at the
(10:12):
Department of Justice, do not slow roll this. This was
a four hundred and twenty seven to one vote in
the House and unanimous in the Senate. Clearly, we want
this done, and we want it done quickly and with integrity.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
If you just try and do this and like you're saying,
slow roll it or kind of hint at things and
not necessarily be fully transparent, it's only going to make
this situation that much worse. You got to come out
with it, and you have to hit it hard.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And whatever faith people have in government in their agencies
would be would be more eroded, oh yeah, than currently
they have, simply because this was something that Pam Bondy specifically,
since the ball is now in her court had said
was so important, it was so important to get this
(10:59):
in information out there. And if you remember that event
back in February, I guess it was where she had
these binders and this was the first trunch of material
that was going to be coming out of that visual representation.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
We're getting down to this situation was evident.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And then saying in the summertime, well it wouldn't. There's
nothing else there and it's not appropriate for us to
release what is there that wait, what if that was
the first trunch in February and then you go, but
there's nothing left in the bag that I mean, that's
why people were so up in arms about this on
both sides of the political life exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
It It's definitely become a nonpartisan issue. It is, like
you say, both sides are saying, just get on with us.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Either either exonerate or.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Implicate, but do something at this point, because we can't
just keep pretending that it doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
They do.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The evidence is there, the files are there, what's in them?
We're still coming we're figuring out what, but we got
to do something.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Here's the concern that I have, and like you said,
we're talking about AI later on in terms of the
materials that can now be generated through AI that are
in some cases indistinguishable from human content, and that is,
this is a perfect opportunity for somebody to generate documents, images,
(12:21):
whatever that do implicate people that are fabricated that would
be hard to explain away.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
And they already are in some degree. There are images,
of course that are floating around the Internet. Some of
you may have seen them, which are clearly to many
of us with some sort of media literacy, fake, fraudulent.
But for you, your eighty five year old grandmother who
has no clue, who sees it. They're buying it, They're
thinking it's all true, So the manipulation is possible.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
It's right.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you accept the alien overlords that are about to
enslave all of us?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I hope? So do I accept? I invite?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I'm the one in Independence Day on top of that
tall tower holding up the sign please take me.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
At this point, we'll talk about what NASA says about
three I at lists. They had a big news conference
yesterday right towards the end of our show, so we'll
get into that, and then we'll hear from Avi Loeb.
Of course, this Harvard astronomer who believes there may be
something else to this, maybe edging his files.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Do you think so?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Maybe aliens.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
There is a funeral going on today at the National
Cathedral in Washington for former Vice President Dick Cheney, memorialized
right now. His couple of his grandkids got up and
spoke a short time ago, and they're doing songs.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And hymns in his honor.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Cheney died earlier this month at eighty four, from complications
of pneumonia, cardiac and vascular disease. Every living former president,
I believe is there, at least every living former vice
president is there. But not President Trump and not Vice
President Vance. Apparently they were not invited.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Preparing for the alien invasion. Perhaps they may be, Maybe
they may be.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
NASA yesterday came out talking about three I atlas and said, guys,
it's a comment.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
I'd like to address the rumors right at the beginning.
I think it's important that we talk about that this
object is a comment. It looks and behaves like a
comet and has and all evidence points to it being
a comment. But this one came from outside the Solar system.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Listen, I've seen these movies before.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's exactly what NASA would say if it wasn't a comic,
because I tell you it's a comic.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Otherwise you're panicking and now you have mass just hysteria.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Kent Hecken Lively his name, is an author and an
astronomer and has written books about these types of things,
not just sort of extraterrestrial stuff, but what does the
government know and what do we know? And what the
delta there between those?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
You know, in my recently released book Catastrophic Disclosure, what
we talk about is government lies about UFOs. You know,
we can be told that they're not going to tell
us things because they want to panic us, and then
we're told things to make us panic. Now this fits
into that pattern, and I think what the government just
(15:24):
needs to do is tell us the truth and then
we'll figure out how much we should panic over it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And then finally AVI Lobe, and we've talked about AVI
Lobe many times in this show. He's the guy who says, yeah, yeah,
it's probably a comet, but all on that one percent
or even one tenth of one percent chance that it's
not a comet, we need to prepare because that is
a black Swan earth change, humanity changing moment. If in fact,
(15:55):
this is something technological, that's a.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Big butt, that's a very very big It.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
Has a lot of anomalies, about eight of them that
I listed, each of them with a small probability. And
my point is that although it may well be a
comet and of natural origin, you know, it could also
be something like a trojan horse, you know, a black
Swan event where we say it's very unlikely for a
spaceship to arrive at our backyard. But nevertheless we should
(16:24):
keep that as a possibility because the implications would be huge.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
The implications.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Again, yes, he's right, most likely just to comment, nothing
to worry about. It's going to come and go, you know,
it will be What is it closest to the Earth?
I think on December nineteenth, great, which is still one
hundred and seventy million miles away in terms of you know,
you and I commuting the world, that's a long way.
In terms of us in a solar system, that's not
very far.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Just in time for the holidays, and I think Nicola Fox,
Associate Administrator of NASA's Science Mission Directorate made the understatement
of the century. She said, it's natural to wonder what
it is. We love that the world wondered along with us. Well,
you think, Nicola, of course we're wondering.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
There's an aspect of this that I think is missing
that we don't spend a lot of time on. Yeah,
the idea of alien life approaching the Earth is crazy.
We can't wrap our heads around that. There's another aspect
of this that I hadn't heard before. And this is
an astronomy professor David Jewett from over at UCLA that says,
(17:29):
and he says, this specific comet, first seen a few
years ago, has been around for a very long time.
Speaker 10 (17:37):
This thing, we think was ejected from another planetary system
around another star. Again, we don't know where, the billions
of years ago, probably long before the Solar System and
the Sun existed.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, wrap your head around that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's old, before our planet, before our Sun, before any
planet in our Solar System existed. This comet was flying around.
So where did it come from? Well, the void, Okay,
there's that. One of the anomalies that Avi Lob says
is that it came from the same direction of a
(18:14):
radio signal that was detected back in the seventies. They
call it the Wow signal because the scientist who saw
it said wow exactly, and it was some kind of
a pattern that existed that they thought could not just
be a random pattern of signals. I don't even remember
what it was specifically, but that they thought there's a
(18:35):
possibility that it's not random that this comet came from
that same tiny slice of the galaxy, that same direction.
So that was one of the things that Avi Lobe
said could potentially point to this being something other than
a comic.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Well, let me ask you this, Gary.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Let's just say it is an alien spacecraft, and you
are given the opportunity to go up, Gary Hoffman, and
and check out what's up there, poke around kind of
see what's going on. Are you going No, No, definitively no. No, no,
no interest.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I'm too no.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I like my dog, I like my wife. Not necessarily
in that order. It's a I have zero sense of
adventure when it comes to that stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And then it's like, are these et aliens or are
these predator versus alien aliens?
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Are they here to be fun and be pets for us?
Are they here to use us as pets? Is this
out for food? Or yeah, are we being harvested? There
are a lot of questions for them to say. Yea
good reference that we're glad you wondered. Well, yes, there
are lots of things to consider when we come back.
(19:48):
Holiday dinners are approaching. Do you have specific road maps
to get through holiday dinners?
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Man, And I'm not talking about the I'm talking about
the personalities. How do you make sure Uncle Fred doesn't
ask Grandma about immigration or cousin Joey asks Grandpa Jim
about all the gay veterans that he knows from Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Don't talk about gay veterans that Thanksgiving. Let that bes
to talk about the brown food. Wait until Christmas for that.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
We'll do that.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Let us know, by the way, leave us a talk
back on the iHeart app. Just hit that little red button.
It's got a white microphone in it. Tell us what
kind of roadmap you have to get through Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We'll start with that one because Christmas comes later.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Tiffany Hobbs has joined us today in places Shannon. I
have the top of the hour. We're going to talk
about this new LA County plan to end a veteran homelessness.
They say they have they have an idea. I got
an idea, folks, So we can hope that it is successful.
Concepts of a plan, concept a plan for a plan.
There you go, something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh, let me do that one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You have a jeopardy I do.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Our jeopardy question is what is an elephant?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
What is an elephant?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
So dig deep, try and figure out what this jeopardy
question is.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Do you ever play jeopardy? I? Have you got it backwards?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Did I? Did I do that wrong?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. The answer is what
is an elephant?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Here's the thing, here's the funny thing.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I take it too.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
No, no, no, no, I'll just tell you why I did
it like this.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I'm not going to botch my first time doing Jeopardy
with Gary Hoffman.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
The reason why is because Richie prepared everything and he
stapled this down onto the you know, onto our sheets here,
and I looked and I went, that's upside down. Let
me turn it over. And I turned it over and
I read the.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Wrong because it says, it says question.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Making sure people we're listening. Should I do it again?
Do we need a new one?
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Okay? Jeopardy round two?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
This African savannah species has more curve in its tusks
than the African forest species.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
What is the answer tooth tiger?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
African savannah species of this has more curve in its
tusks than the African forest species.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What is an elephant?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Ooh gosh, Gary, it's like you just you really pulled
that knowledge out of you.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
When we edit that, it's gonna sound great. U.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
There is a new study that suggests that forty seven
percent of adults would prefer to sit at the kid's
table during holiday dinners. Forty seven percent so they rather
sit at the kid's table just to avoid uncomfortable conversations.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, I probably in one of them. You definitely
want and not get into the things that can ruin
Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
The survey says fifty percent of adults have mapped out
what they say is a conversation survival strategy before sitting
down to holiday meals.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
How depressing is that that we have?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You have to think about it going into it?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, just to prepare yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Growing numbers said that the kids the kids table would
be like a VIP lounge. Millennials lead that charge. Sixty
two percent say that they would rather sit at the
kids table. Politics is the most banned holiday topic when
it comes to meal time. Politics top the list of
forty two percent Personal finances You ever talked about personal
(23:44):
finances around the Thanksgiving dinner table?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I try not to talk about them anytime, let alone
over food.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
No comments about appearance or wait.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Perfect time to tell your cousin that they've put on.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
A well Jennifer, it looks like you've put on an
extra twenty five pounds in the last year.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Maybe don't have that second helping Jennifer.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Who weighs more? Cousin Bobby or this turkey.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This survey was actually done by a winery and asked
respondents to name the one question they absolutely do not
want to hear the holiday season, and the answers read
like just the best awkward questions you could ever ask.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
When are you getting married or having kids? Is the
is on the list?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
No, no, what about the so how's that diet going?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Oh? Perfect time?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The ever popular who did you vote? For don't don't.
One person wrote can I borrow money? And another said
the question you're not supposed to ask is when are
you getting your life together?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
This is a peek into the households of our common
a mayor what brothers and sisters here?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
And it's bleak.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Religion spiritual beliefs came in fourth. Previous romantic relationships. Hey,
whatever happened to that girl that you were dating? While
you're next to your current mental health, working career, personal goals.
All of that stuff made the People's List. We'd love
to know what it is that you avoid. What roadmap
do you have for your holiday dinners? You can leave
(25:24):
us a talk back on the iHeart app just by
hitting that little microphone button and leaves us a message.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Hey Gary, this is Gary.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Hey Gary, I will both serve and respect my alien overlord.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
There was another guy who said, let me see if
I can find it real quick.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The best way to get through holiday dinners is to
get a metric ton of weed. Okay, and I don't
know if you ingested all yourself. Maybe you throw some
into the stuffing or something.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Like that little extra garnish on the turkey.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm back, La County's plan to end veteran homelessness. We'll
talk about it. Gary and Shannon will continue right after this.
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