October 14, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. See Elmer says, I hear you.
I like good older music.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I like the doors. See what do you?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I have two things to do.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
First of all, is explain how I used chat ept
for my wife's birthday. I told you, as a matter
of fact, how I did it. I took a picture
of some of the books on her bookshelf. Oh yes,
but I know that she has read, and I tried
to I asked chat ept to come up with other
books in that same vein because I know these are
books that she likes.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
ART very smart way to use chat gpt in a
thoughtful way.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
And they had six or seven different options of books
that would be in that same genre or by the
similar writers. I even threw to Kill a Mockingbird in there,
because I know that's her favorite book to read and
she reads it once a year. And it came up
with a series of books, most of them she'd already read,
which I guess was good sure, because that was an
indicator that these were all on the right track, on
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the right track. So I ended up buying her a
couple of books that were that she hadn't previously read
that she is excited to read.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Which ones did you get? I get that Heaven and
Earth grocery Store. It was one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then one hundred the both the woman and the boy.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I want to read that one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And then to go back about forty five maybe fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
When it comes to radio programming.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Gary Shannon Sam here from Westminster. Hey, Sam, here's an
idea for a show in order to illustrate the effects
of alcohol on your decision making. What if you brought
in a member of the CHP with a breathalyzer test
and you guys took a shot every fifteen minutes and
discussed how it was making you feel, and he could
(01:49):
tell you the legal limits.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It might be fun to do in front.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Of the holidays, just as a public service period.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Period.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's a good one for kids in high school. I
just know what happens after each shot.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I've done it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I've done this test many times. I'll tell you what
happens after each and every milestone.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We did that very early on, where you you tried
to get me, well, you succeeded in getting me to
drink four beers in an hour, right, and to see
what it impact it would have on me by the
end of the hour.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Doctor Wendy did this because I remember thinking about it
after she had told us where she did exactly that
she had somebody come in. I don't think it was
a CHP officer, but she had her girlfriends over and
they'd have one glass of wine and then they would
like write down like how they're feeling, how things have changed,
and then they you know, what's your behaviors, and then
have another glass of wine and then so you could
(02:49):
see because it's so easy just to like when you're
talking amongst friends or whatever and you're you know, you
drink three drinks or whatever, and how that changes, and
like where would be your good spot?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Whereas like the spot where you're still having a good
time but you're not messy and you know you're still
enjoying yourself and you're gonna remember everything and all that stuff.
But it always sounded like zero fun to like keep
track of all of it, Like what a buzzkill? Let
me write down my feelings after every drink, let me
see how I feel.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, But they also did that on w KRP in Cincinnati,
the old TV show where doctor Johnny Fever, the you know,
the music jock. He his reaction time got faster the
more that he drank. Okay, befuddling the well. Yeah, because
that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I remember when I would when I was living in
the dorms, and you would leave the dorms, you'd go out.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You'd walk to a party wherever it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Was, and you know, you and your friends who bring
like a six pack of beer or something, but you
don't want to carry all that, you know, So for pregame,
I would take like three shots of tequila and uh
makes me shudder. Right now, I was young, go on
and I feel great. I'd leave one kick in. The
tequila doesn't kick in for like twenty five minutes, and
then all of a sudden, you're like, I have had three.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Shots of tequila. But that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's a slow it's slow moving, and then once
it hits and then it's off to the races.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Right, Yeah, it's funny. All right, it's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies. I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
So here we got the real problem is that our
leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So what you're doing, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
So that now you.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Train the swat, I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been. You know, Amervans have
always been going at president, but they're not stupid.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch.
They're all counting on a reminder.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You could see all of this magic in person on Thursday,
when we're live at the BJ's Restaurant in brew House
in Huntington Beach, right there on Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
We'll be doing the show live out there.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
News organizations including New York Times, Associated Press, Newsmax Television,
Fox News, they have all said they are not going
to sign a Pentagon document about the new press rules.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
They said that.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
These policies threatened to punish them for just what should
amount to be routine news gathering that is protected by
our First Amendment. Washington Posts, The Atlantic, Reuters, they've all
said that they are not going to be signing. Defense
Secretary Pete Hegseth reacted by posting the New York Times
statement on Twitter and added a hand waving emoji. His
(05:34):
team has said that reporters who don't acknowledge the policy
in writing by today will not be admitted into the Pentagon,
that they must turn in their badges and clear out
their work spaces by Wednesday. The new rules that were
set up by the Pentagon bar journalists access to big
areas within the Pentagon without an escort, and say that
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Hegseth can revoke press access to reporters who ask anyone
in the Defense Department for information classified or otherwise that
he has not approved for release. It doesn't ask them
to agree, just to acknowledge that they understand what the
policy is.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And apparently this is according to one.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Of the spokespeople, caused reporters to have a full blown
melt down crying victim online. The there's I don't know
how how much did you spend a reporter time spend
covering things like federal government military stuff. A FBI federal
(06:38):
level of news gathering is a very different animal than
walking down to La City Hall and grabbing a City
Council member.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Right, the FBI is a very there's a protocol in place.
It's not as you know, fly in there top to
whoever you want to talk to. I mean, it's like
the Gestapo getting into the FBI. It's a tough nut
to crack military any sort of base interact. You have
to have an inside connection, which we always did with
(07:07):
the military bases, especially when I was a reporter. You know,
onset of the war two thousand and two, we had
a great guy, Commander Terry Knight, up in Sacramento that
had great relationships with the military there. So we had
great access getting on bases and talking about two troops
that were going to be deployed and training and all
of that. Went up to Washington to some forts up
(07:29):
there and talk to people before they left for Iraq
and Iraq in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But yeah, it's a very different beast.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's a different I remember there was right as the
war was starting, there was a group of different branches
of the military got together in Tacoma and we're answering
questions about what access was going to be like for
reporters and for media, and if you were going to
Fort Lewis, or if you're going through the Air Force
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Base McCord there, or how it was going to work,
what it was going to look like, how it was
going to change. And there were representatives from the submarine
Base at Banger that were there. And the submarine base
at Banger is not a publicly celebrated I mean, everybody
knows it's there, but we don't go out of our way.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
To talk about it.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And when I approached those guys afterwards, I was thinking,
I have an end. My father works at a submarine base.
He works at May Island Naval Shipyard where they take
care of a lot of the submarines, some of them
were stationed at Banger. And I'm going to walk up
to these guys that I'm going to go, hey, guys,
you know, if I have questions, who do I go
to and what? And they said, well, what kind of
questions would you have? And I said, well, I mean, like,
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for example, what submarines are in the base at the time.
And they both looked at each other and looked at
me and just laughed like you'll never know, You'll never
we will never.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Be able to tell you that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And then I laugh and I go well, is there
any chance, like I get a tour of the base.
I mean, like, just I don't necessarily need to do.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I just love to see what They again, look at
each other, look at me, and they're like, no, no,
that's not how this works.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you have to know somebody? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
All right. Well, as Trump was returning to Washington aboard
Air Force one, something made him very upset and he
fired off a truth social post about it. It involves
the media, involves a photo, and it evolves a photo
of him.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
We'll talk about it when we come back. Gary and Shannon,
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Well, President Donald Trump may not have been right about everything,
despite the hats and t shirts, but he's certainly right
about this. He says that Time magazine has used the
worst picture of him, the worst of all time. And
I've got to agree, it's an awful picture of him.
This is the hair one right, it's the neck. Yeah,
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it's the hair, it's the angle, it's all of it.
It's awful. It's an awful picture. I would be livid
as well. It doesn't need There's so many pictures of
the President of United States. You're Trump, There's so many
pictures of him. This is like a clear shot to
just pick an ugly picture just for this.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's it's so transparent and it's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But anyway, the picture, by the way, Harold's Trump's triumph
in the Middle East, saying that it may become signature
achievement of Trump's second term could mark a strategic turning point.
For the Middle East, so in handing him his flowers
on whatever his role was for some bit of peace
there in Gaza, they have to crap on him with
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the picture.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
They can't stand just giving him a high five. It's
really bad. It does look really weird, the lighting, the focus.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The focus of the picture really is on his neck,
which is pinched from his shirt collar.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
He's wearing the.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Navy suit, red tie, white shirt, you know well, but
his neck is pinched like his collar's too small, and
his neck looks fat. It's like the neck rolls are
bunched out. It's awful. It's an awful picture. It didn't
need to happen. There's so many pictures of him.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's taken from a low angle, so it looks up
into his head and because it's lit from behind by
the sun.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think it's the sun. It looks very very thin.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It looks it looks like he's got three pieces of
hair on the top there. I mean, it's just an
awful picture. It's not very nice.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We were asking earlier if you would use chat ept
or some other sort of large language model to write
a card for your loved one.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Happy Guessa Versary, Happy guess Aversary, Happy guest a Versary,
Happy GUESSI Versary. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I didn't realize that everybody still celebrates it that good
morning guys.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
So as far as making a card for your loved
one or partner whatever using AI, that's cheesy as hell.
I mean, if you can't come up with something from
the heart or just on the top of your head
for that person, then maybe you're with the wrong person.
It doesn't have to be twenty words long. It's got
to be something simple and nice and direct. But no
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using AI and stuff. No, that's lazy as cheesy.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And you you know what I like is that it's
all dudes that are calling in with that take that
are like just right from the heart. Why wouldn't you
write from the heart? I love that men get it?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Is that what men get it?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
That's right. Do you keep cards? You're not a card keeper.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I am a card keeper to a point, Like I
keep a stack of them, and then I'll be going
through stuff. I'm like, okay, and I'll go through them
and I'll keep a couple of them. I've got a
couple like I've got a couple from years ago. I'd
probably keep maybe one a Year's it?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You keep all of them?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I keep a lot. I keep too many.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's very sweet. What do you have more cards or
T shirts? I think I say cards are teeth.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh, we're not at that point in the show, though.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I had kept my kid's teeth.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh, that's right. I think that's sweet. I think my
dad kept our teeth too.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Cards are teeth.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
That's a real dang dog.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's what dad's keeping teeth. PS.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
We're going to be talking about the BTK killer and
his family coming up at True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's an angle you don't think about.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I mean, the BTK killer was doing just that, binding
and torturing and killing people all the wall, all the while,
a father, father of two, married, father of two, active
in the community, leader of the Lutheran Church in the community,
all the while doing this stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And we'll dig into his story because it's one of
the most popular documentaries right now on Netflix. The take
from his daughter, who never knew that her dad was
a serial killer. He was just dad. Bizarre.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You want to do Instagram next? Or protein?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh Man Elmer Protein. Gary Channon will continue right after.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
This, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
BT June Alma vibing and dancing to the music at
eleven thirty eight am on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
This is what I live for. This's why I woke
up and actually made my way out of bed this morning.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Because it would have been a great day to just not.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It would have I think a lot of people chose
to just not to just not do today.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So they look out the window, they heard they it
is really rating that hard.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I'm just gonna not answer is yes, Yes it is.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Boy.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
If you're a Kaiser nurse though you're out on the
picket line. Thirty one thousand Kaiser nurses and healthcare professionals
at two hundred different facilities around the state and in
Hawaii started a five day strike this morning. Kaiser said
the healthcare companies hiring up to seventy six hundred nurses
and clinicians and other staff to replace the union workers
(16:41):
during the strike. The majority of those have worked for
Kaiser previously. The Christian ahmanpur from CNN longtime international correspondent,
had to apologize yesterday. She claimed that the Israeli hostages
that were freed from Hamah captivity were treated better than Gossin's.
(17:03):
She said that she didn't mean to say it that way,
other than to say, these hostages held by Hamas were
really the only chit that they had to play. It
was really the only bargaining power they had, so it
was incumbent upon them to keep them alive, although obviously
not all of them. And we House Speaker Mike Johnson
(17:26):
says this federal government shut down the word in could
become the longest in history, saying that he will not
negotiate with Democrats until they paused their health care demands
and reopen the government. So we'll see how that goes. Hey,
they eleven twelve. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Who's keeping track. Protein is turning up in everything. I mean, Starbucks,
my goodness, A little bit late to the protein party.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I know Pete's has been doing protein for a while.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I saw this and maybe this was just where was I.
I was in Fort Lauderdale, and I was at the Starbucks,
and this is where I saw it first, hitting me
over the head of the Starbucks with the big signs
protein enhance, choose the protein milk option. You know, spike
your drink with protein, protein protein. They charge the read
all like two ninety five or something to put the
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protein in your ice latte or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Pro tip, do not pay that.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
If you're putting protein in everything, buy the powder at home.
Put it a couple scoops in a ziploc baggie, and
if you're going to stop and get a nice coffee,
throw that in there much cheap. Three dollars is asinine
for one little scoop of fur amounts to one probably
one probably ten grams of protein or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Like that's insane, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
They want to capitalize off the protein and everything at
every meal craze. But just just be careful when you're
asking for those options because they're charging you for it.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm a little skeptical when I see when I see
people or companies, I guess it is suggesting that they're
adding proteins to things like drinks. I just have this
image in my head that you got to you add
protein to a drink, it's going to make it gloppy.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, it can.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It depends on the drink, and it depends on whoever's
making it. Like I'll add protein powder to my coffee.
So you put a little powder in a mug and
put water and if you've got to mix it up
really well, get all the you know, break it all up.
But if you do it right, it shouldn't be depending
on the protein powder you're using. But it's also depending
upon the consistency.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Of the d drink drinking right, right.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But it's in everything.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
There's protein ice cream, there's protein, you know, just clear
water that's added protein.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
There's protein, groanolla bars, everything they're talking about. It's going
to go to uh in doritos as well. PepsiCo is
planning a higher.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Protein because if you're really that worried about protein makes
you feel full, right, So if you have like a
high protein meal like chicken, bunch of chicken, you're going
to feel full for longer so that you don't eat
the doritos.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Right, But it's.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Kind of it's trying to kind of counteract your your
want for those doritos at two pm. If you have
a high protein lunch at noon one o'clock, you should
be able to go in there and.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Be able to make it to dinner, is the idea.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
They said.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Protein's being added a popcorn pasta bread cookie dough, ice cream,
and macaroni and cheese, and most importantly pop tarts made
by Kelenova.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's just the way of making you feel good about
eating pop tarts.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Or you're still eating a pop tar.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Right, you're like, look, but there's protein in it. I
was was looking at I think it was social media
or something, and I was reminded of the nineties fat
free craze. Oh yeah, everything was fat free because fat
was the Antichrist. We go through these phases where right
now we're in a protein with everything phase. It's great
for you, nutritionous, everyone, wonderful, one hundred grams a day.
(21:00):
But back then, in that fat it was fat free.
Everything Fat's awful. You eat fat, you're gonna get fat.
And so you had fat free like snack cookies. Snack
wells was a big one, and you'd have like like
a marshmallow chocolate cookie fat free.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But you know what it had.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It had tons of calories, and it had tons of
carbs and sugars and salts and all of those things
that will bloat you up just as much as a
high fat snack.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Well, remember those chips that they remember.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
The diarrhea, The diarrhea debuted them. They debuted them in
different specific markets, and one of them was Sacramento. And
the way they did it was they would bring it
into TV and radio stations and be like, here's a
box full of these Oleo ros and chips, and you go, gosh,
they taste like chip fat free Pringles, and not one
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person in the newsroom because they're all lined up for
the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, it was that certain kind of only whatever it was,
it turned out it made you go to the bathroom
a lot that I when those came up, and when
they came up with a fat free Pringles, I was like,
I don't know, something's something wrong here.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And I never touched the stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
It's probably Well the sugar free gummy bears, those will
cause those will blow you apart as well, will they.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I've never gotten into those. I'm not a gummy bear person.
Well some people are really great. Part on gummy bears.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Sugar free will destroy you from the inside out. You
will wish that you had really taken by your maker. Why.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I don't know what it is about them.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And you've had this experience a few times.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I have I have only experienced at one time. Oh really,
you learn you learn pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You learn you didn't go back to that. Well I
did not.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Taylor Swift is causing some backlash once again, not because
of her albums or her music, but her potential future.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Welcome to Tuesday, October fourteenth.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Hey, we have another pair of Chargers tickets to give away,
as a matter of fact, tickets for this Sunday's game.
They're taking on the Innneapolis Colts Caller number seven again,
Shall we do that? Yeah, eight hundred five to zero one,
five three four, eight hundred five to two oh one.
KFI Caller number seven is going to win the next
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pair of Chargers tickets. We will have more tickets later
in the show that we're going to be given away.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Why are people upset about Taylor Swift making decisions about
her own life.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well, it's because she did the independent woman, independent girl
making her own way in the world Mary Tyler Moore
esque kind of a deal. And now she's kind of
presenting as a trad wife, the traditional wife that take
a back seat to my man. At least that's how
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she's outwardly presenting herself. That's what the optics look like.
I'm I'm at his games, I'm cheering her on. She's
no longer seen as this. I'm doing it alone. I'm
doing it all. I'm an independent woman type of a vibe.
And it's rubbing some people the wrong way. Some people
are saying, it's all. It's almost maga what she's doing.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
So if this incredibly historically successful woman decides she wants
to stop working and live her life however she wants
to decide, she has made more money than your Lord
and Savior, that is, and she now gets to decide
(24:43):
what she wants to do with her life, and people
are upset with that.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I would argue, our Lord and Savior has made a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well maybe in the Catholic Church, but in.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
All of the churches forever. That's a pretty high dollar
estimate there. But that is That's the question Fortune Magazine
is asking here. It is has she betrayed her legacy
of feminist self determination? Or is this simply Swift telling
her own story on her own terms, or.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Is this the absolute definition of feminist self determination?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I would argue it is. I don't know which feminist
that makes me, but fourth wave, sixth wave. But as
a feminist, you get to decide, all right, him, I will,
I will give up my independent I do it all
alone for him.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
RAT one. I choose him.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I made this decision, this is what I want to
do with my life.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm making this.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Call because it's just a decision.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And if you have the freedom to make a decision, yeah,
it doesn't matter which decision you make, it's that you
had the freedom to make the decision in the first place.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think there's some women who are doing it on
their own, and kind of held her up as well.
She's thirty six, she's still single. Yeah, I'm still single.
I'm doing it on my own. She's wildly happy and successful.
I can be wildly happy and successful.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Is there any allegory here between this and the people
who were upset with Lizzo?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I was just coming to the same conclusion for betraying them,
because she kind of supported women are gonna eat, We're
gonna eat, We're gonna look beautiful, and we're eaters and
we're big and it doesn't matter because we're freaking beautiful.
And then she decided she decided to lose, and people
felt left in the in the dark and the cold
without her as they're to a tea the way they
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wanted to live their life. It's like if you decided
suddenly that you know you were not gonna do adult
theater anymore and you didn't want to be called the fawns.
I think a lot of us would be like, wait,
but I saw myself in that. You see, I too,
(26:53):
am trying to achieve my dream of Broadway and being
called the fawns.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The fonds maybe, but not the not Broadway?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So if Broadway called you, you would turn them away.
I have work, you have work. I'm sorry. If Broadway
called you, what would they call what would they call Chicago?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
They would call me a ticket buyer is what they
would call me. They would call me an audience member.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Don't say that, Yeah, don't say that, Gary. We don't
like that.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
We don't like that negative stuff, like the stinking thinking, Oh,
what's that is? I didn't what is that?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
What is that? From?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Did you never have a childhood? Nobody told you that,
Nobody accused you of stinking thinking? No, I've never heard
that before.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
What that is? Stinking thinking? Is that how they use it?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, Like if you said I don't want to eat
these beans not so good Elmer doesn't like to eat
bean bad. Yeah, and they'd be like, that's stinking thinking
and thinking.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You need to turn that frown upside down.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I might use this all the time now.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I create you.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Fortunately, Thursday, we are going to be livet at BJ's
Restaurant in brew House in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
We would love it if you would come on out
and let's say hi.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Opposite, because whatever you're doing right now is the opposite
of stinking thinking.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Uh a good thing? Happy happy? I don't know happy thinking.
We'll workshop it. We'll be there from nine to one
doing the show live. And if you've ever wondered what
this show looks like live thoughts in prayers, you're absolutely right.
(28:39):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
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I like good older music.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I like the doors. See what do you?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I have two things to do.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
First of all, is explain how I used chat ept
for my wife's birthday. I told you, as a matter
of fact, how I did it. I took a picture
of some of the books on her bookshelf. Oh yes,
but I know that she has read, and I tried
to I asked chat ept to come up with other
books in that same vein because I know these are
books that she likes.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
ART very smart way to use chat gpt in a
thoughtful way.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
And they had six or seven different options of books
that would be in that same genre or by the
similar writers. I even threw to Kill a Mockingbird in there,
because I know that's her favorite book to read and
she reads it once a year. And it came up
with a series of books, most of them she'd already read,
which I guess was good sure, because that was an
indicator that these were all on the right track, on
(01:05):
the right track. So I ended up buying her a
couple of books that were that she hadn't previously read
that she is excited to read.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Which ones did you get? I get that Heaven and
Earth grocery Store. It was one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then one hundred the both the woman and the boy.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I want to read that one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And then to go back about forty five maybe fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
When it comes to radio programming.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Gary Shannon Sam here from Westminster. Hey, Sam, here's an
idea for a show in order to illustrate the effects
of alcohol on your decision making. What if you brought
in a member of the CHP with a breathalyzer test
and you guys took a shot every fifteen minutes and
discussed how it was making you feel, and he could
(01:49):
tell you the legal limits.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It might be fun to do in front.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Of the holidays, just as a public service period.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Period.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's a good one for kids in high school. I
just know what happens after each shot.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I've done it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I've done this test many times. I'll tell you what
happens after each and every milestone.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We did that very early on, where you you tried
to get me, well, you succeeded in getting me to
drink four beers in an hour, right, and to see
what it impact it would have on me by the
end of the hour.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Doctor Wendy did this because I remember thinking about it
after she had told us where she did exactly that
she had somebody come in. I don't think it was
a CHP officer, but she had her girlfriends over and
they'd have one glass of wine and then they would
like write down like how they're feeling, how things have changed,
and then they you know, what's your behaviors, and then
have another glass of wine and then so you could
(02:49):
see because it's so easy just to like when you're
talking amongst friends or whatever and you're you know, you
drink three drinks or whatever, and how that changes, and
like where would be your good spot?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Whereas like the spot where you're still having a good
time but you're not messy and you know you're still
enjoying yourself and you're gonna remember everything and all that stuff.
But it always sounded like zero fun to like keep
track of all of it, Like what a buzzkill? Let
me write down my feelings after every drink, let me
see how I feel.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, But they also did that on w KRP in Cincinnati,
the old TV show where doctor Johnny Fever, the you know,
the music jock. He his reaction time got faster the
more that he drank. Okay, befuddling the well. Yeah, because
that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I remember when I would when I was living in
the dorms, and you would leave the dorms, you'd go out.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You'd walk to a party wherever it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Was, and you know, you and your friends who bring
like a six pack of beer or something, but you
don't want to carry all that, you know, So for pregame,
I would take like three shots of tequila and uh
makes me shudder. Right now, I was young, go on
and I feel great. I'd leave one kick in. The
tequila doesn't kick in for like twenty five minutes, and
then all of a sudden, you're like, I have had three.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Shots of tequila. But that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's a slow it's slow moving, and then once
it hits and then it's off to the races.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Right, Yeah, it's funny. All right, it's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies. I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
So here we got the real problem is that our
leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The other side never quits.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So what you're doing, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
So that now you.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Train the swat, I can imagine what can be and
be unburdened by what has been. You know, Amervans have
always been going at president, but they're not stupid.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Have the people voted for you were not swamp watch.
They're all counting on a reminder.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You could see all of this magic in person on Thursday,
when we're live at the BJ's Restaurant in brew House
in Huntington Beach, right there on Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
We'll be doing the show live out there.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
News organizations including New York Times, Associated Press, Newsmax Television,
Fox News, they have all said they are not going
to sign a Pentagon document about the new press rules.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
They said that.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
These policies threatened to punish them for just what should
amount to be routine news gathering that is protected by
our First Amendment. Washington Posts, The Atlantic, Reuters, they've all
said that they are not going to be signing. Defense
Secretary Pete Hegseth reacted by posting the New York Times
statement on Twitter and added a hand waving emoji. His
(05:34):
team has said that reporters who don't acknowledge the policy
in writing by today will not be admitted into the Pentagon,
that they must turn in their badges and clear out
their work spaces by Wednesday. The new rules that were
set up by the Pentagon bar journalists access to big
areas within the Pentagon without an escort, and say that
(05:57):
Hegseth can revoke press access to reporters who ask anyone
in the Defense Department for information classified or otherwise that
he has not approved for release. It doesn't ask them
to agree, just to acknowledge that they understand what the
policy is.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And apparently this is according to one.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Of the spokespeople, caused reporters to have a full blown
melt down crying victim online. The there's I don't know
how how much did you spend a reporter time spend
covering things like federal government military stuff. A FBI federal
(06:38):
level of news gathering is a very different animal than
walking down to La City Hall and grabbing a City
Council member.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Right, the FBI is a very there's a protocol in place.
It's not as you know, fly in there top to
whoever you want to talk to. I mean, it's like
the Gestapo getting into the FBI. It's a tough nut
to crack military any sort of base interact. You have
to have an inside connection, which we always did with
(07:07):
the military bases, especially when I was a reporter. You know,
onset of the war two thousand and two, we had
a great guy, Commander Terry Knight, up in Sacramento that
had great relationships with the military there. So we had
great access getting on bases and talking about two troops
that were going to be deployed and training and all
of that. Went up to Washington to some forts up
(07:29):
there and talk to people before they left for Iraq
and Iraq in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But yeah, it's a very different beast.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's a different I remember there was right as the
war was starting, there was a group of different branches
of the military got together in Tacoma and we're answering
questions about what access was going to be like for
reporters and for media, and if you were going to
Fort Lewis, or if you're going through the Air Force
(07:57):
Base McCord there, or how it was going to work,
what it was going to look like, how it was
going to change. And there were representatives from the submarine
Base at Banger that were there. And the submarine base
at Banger is not a publicly celebrated I mean, everybody
knows it's there, but we don't go out of our way.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
To talk about it.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And when I approached those guys afterwards, I was thinking,
I have an end. My father works at a submarine base.
He works at May Island Naval Shipyard where they take
care of a lot of the submarines, some of them
were stationed at Banger. And I'm going to walk up
to these guys that I'm going to go, hey, guys,
you know, if I have questions, who do I go
to and what? And they said, well, what kind of
questions would you have? And I said, well, I mean, like,
(08:43):
for example, what submarines are in the base at the time.
And they both looked at each other and looked at
me and just laughed like you'll never know, You'll never
we will never.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Be able to tell you that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And then I laugh and I go well, is there
any chance, like I get a tour of the base.
I mean, like, just I don't necessarily need to do.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I just love to see what They again, look at
each other, look at me, and they're like, no, no,
that's not how this works.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you have to know somebody? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
All right. Well, as Trump was returning to Washington aboard
Air Force one, something made him very upset and he
fired off a truth social post about it. It involves
the media, involves a photo, and it evolves a photo
of him.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
We'll talk about it when we come back. Gary and Shannon,
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Well, President Donald Trump may not have been right about everything,
despite the hats and t shirts, but he's certainly right
about this. He says that Time magazine has used the
worst picture of him, the worst of all time. And
I've got to agree, it's an awful picture of him.
This is the hair one right, it's the neck. Yeah,
(11:40):
it's the hair, it's the angle, it's all of it.
It's awful. It's an awful picture. I would be livid
as well. It doesn't need There's so many pictures of
the President of United States. You're Trump, There's so many
pictures of him. This is like a clear shot to
just pick an ugly picture just for this.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's it's so transparent and it's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But anyway, the picture, by the way, Harold's Trump's triumph
in the Middle East, saying that it may become signature
achievement of Trump's second term could mark a strategic turning point.
For the Middle East, so in handing him his flowers
on whatever his role was for some bit of peace
there in Gaza, they have to crap on him with
(12:21):
the picture.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
They can't stand just giving him a high five. It's
really bad. It does look really weird, the lighting, the focus.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The focus of the picture really is on his neck,
which is pinched from his shirt collar.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
He's wearing the.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Navy suit, red tie, white shirt, you know well, but
his neck is pinched like his collar's too small, and
his neck looks fat. It's like the neck rolls are
bunched out. It's awful. It's an awful picture. It didn't
need to happen. There's so many pictures of him.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's taken from a low angle, so it looks up
into his head and because it's lit from behind by
the sun.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think it's the sun. It looks very very thin.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It looks it looks like he's got three pieces of
hair on the top there. I mean, it's just an
awful picture. It's not very nice.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We were asking earlier if you would use chat ept
or some other sort of large language model to write
a card for your loved one.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Happy Guessa Versary, Happy guess Aversary, Happy guest a Versary,
Happy GUESSI Versary. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I didn't realize that everybody still celebrates it that good
morning guys.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
So as far as making a card for your loved
one or partner whatever using AI, that's cheesy as hell.
I mean, if you can't come up with something from
the heart or just on the top of your head
for that person, then maybe you're with the wrong person.
It doesn't have to be twenty words long. It's got
to be something simple and nice and direct. But no
(13:56):
using AI and stuff. No, that's lazy as cheesy.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And you you know what I like is that it's
all dudes that are calling in with that take that
are like just right from the heart. Why wouldn't you
write from the heart? I love that men get it?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Is that what men get it?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
That's right. Do you keep cards? You're not a card keeper.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I am a card keeper to a point, Like I
keep a stack of them, and then I'll be going
through stuff. I'm like, okay, and I'll go through them
and I'll keep a couple of them. I've got a
couple like I've got a couple from years ago. I'd
probably keep maybe one a Year's it?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You keep all of them?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I keep a lot. I keep too many.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's very sweet. What do you have more cards or
T shirts? I think I say cards are teeth.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh, we're not at that point in the show, though.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I had kept my kid's teeth.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh, that's right. I think that's sweet. I think my
dad kept our teeth too.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Cards are teeth.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
That's a real dang dog.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's what dad's keeping teeth. PS.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
We're going to be talking about the BTK killer and
his family coming up at True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's an angle you don't think about.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I mean, the BTK killer was doing just that, binding
and torturing and killing people all the wall, all the while,
a father, father of two, married, father of two, active
in the community, leader of the Lutheran Church in the community,
all the while doing this stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And we'll dig into his story because it's one of
the most popular documentaries right now on Netflix. The take
from his daughter, who never knew that her dad was
a serial killer. He was just dad. Bizarre.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You want to do Instagram next? Or protein?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh Man Elmer Protein. Gary Channon will continue right after.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
This, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
BT June Alma vibing and dancing to the music at
eleven thirty eight am on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
This is what I live for. This's why I woke
up and actually made my way out of bed this morning.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Because it would have been a great day to just not.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
It would have I think a lot of people chose
to just not to just not do today.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So they look out the window, they heard they it
is really rating that hard.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I'm just gonna not answer is yes, Yes it is.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Boy.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
If you're a Kaiser nurse though you're out on the
picket line. Thirty one thousand Kaiser nurses and healthcare professionals
at two hundred different facilities around the state and in
Hawaii started a five day strike this morning. Kaiser said
the healthcare companies hiring up to seventy six hundred nurses
and clinicians and other staff to replace the union workers
(16:41):
during the strike. The majority of those have worked for
Kaiser previously. The Christian ahmanpur from CNN longtime international correspondent,
had to apologize yesterday. She claimed that the Israeli hostages
that were freed from Hamah captivity were treated better than Gossin's.
(17:03):
She said that she didn't mean to say it that way,
other than to say, these hostages held by Hamas were
really the only chit that they had to play. It
was really the only bargaining power they had, so it
was incumbent upon them to keep them alive, although obviously
not all of them. And we House Speaker Mike Johnson
(17:26):
says this federal government shut down the word in could
become the longest in history, saying that he will not
negotiate with Democrats until they paused their health care demands
and reopen the government. So we'll see how that goes. Hey,
they eleven twelve. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Who's keeping track. Protein is turning up in everything. I mean, Starbucks,
my goodness, A little bit late to the protein party.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I know Pete's has been doing protein for a while.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I saw this and maybe this was just where was I.
I was in Fort Lauderdale, and I was at the Starbucks,
and this is where I saw it first, hitting me
over the head of the Starbucks with the big signs
protein enhance, choose the protein milk option. You know, spike
your drink with protein, protein protein. They charge the read
all like two ninety five or something to put the
(18:12):
protein in your ice latte or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Pro tip, do not pay that.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
If you're putting protein in everything, buy the powder at home.
Put it a couple scoops in a ziploc baggie, and
if you're going to stop and get a nice coffee,
throw that in there much cheap. Three dollars is asinine
for one little scoop of fur amounts to one probably
one probably ten grams of protein or something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Like that's insane, and I get it.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
They want to capitalize off the protein and everything at
every meal craze. But just just be careful when you're
asking for those options because they're charging you for it.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm a little skeptical when I see when I see
people or companies, I guess it is suggesting that they're
adding proteins to things like drinks. I just have this
image in my head that you got to you add
protein to a drink, it's going to make it gloppy.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, it can.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It depends on the drink, and it depends on whoever's
making it. Like I'll add protein powder to my coffee.
So you put a little powder in a mug and
put water and if you've got to mix it up
really well, get all the you know, break it all up.
But if you do it right, it shouldn't be depending
on the protein powder you're using. But it's also depending
upon the consistency.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Of the d drink drinking right, right.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But it's in everything.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
There's protein ice cream, there's protein, you know, just clear
water that's added protein.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
There's protein, groanolla bars, everything they're talking about. It's going
to go to uh in doritos as well. PepsiCo is
planning a higher.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Protein because if you're really that worried about protein makes
you feel full, right, So if you have like a
high protein meal like chicken, bunch of chicken, you're going
to feel full for longer so that you don't eat
the doritos.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Right, But it's.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Kind of it's trying to kind of counteract your your
want for those doritos at two pm. If you have
a high protein lunch at noon one o'clock, you should
be able to go in there and.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Be able to make it to dinner, is the idea.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
They said.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Protein's being added a popcorn pasta bread cookie dough, ice cream,
and macaroni and cheese, and most importantly pop tarts made
by Kelenova.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's just the way of making you feel good about
eating pop tarts.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Or you're still eating a pop tar.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Right, you're like, look, but there's protein in it. I
was was looking at I think it was social media
or something, and I was reminded of the nineties fat
free craze. Oh yeah, everything was fat free because fat
was the Antichrist. We go through these phases where right
now we're in a protein with everything phase. It's great
for you, nutritionous, everyone, wonderful, one hundred grams a day.
(21:00):
But back then, in that fat it was fat free.
Everything Fat's awful. You eat fat, you're gonna get fat.
And so you had fat free like snack cookies. Snack
wells was a big one, and you'd have like like
a marshmallow chocolate cookie fat free.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But you know what it had.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It had tons of calories, and it had tons of
carbs and sugars and salts and all of those things
that will bloat you up just as much as a
high fat snack.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Well, remember those chips that they remember.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
The diarrhea, The diarrhea debuted them. They debuted them in
different specific markets, and one of them was Sacramento. And
the way they did it was they would bring it
into TV and radio stations and be like, here's a
box full of these Oleo ros and chips, and you go, gosh,
they taste like chip fat free Pringles, and not one
(21:50):
person in the newsroom because they're all lined up for
the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, it was that certain kind of only whatever it was,
it turned out it made you go to the bathroom
a lot that I when those came up, and when
they came up with a fat free Pringles, I was like,
I don't know, something's something wrong here.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And I never touched the stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
It's probably Well the sugar free gummy bears, those will
cause those will blow you apart as well, will they.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I've never gotten into those. I'm not a gummy bear person.
Well some people are really great. Part on gummy bears.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Sugar free will destroy you from the inside out. You
will wish that you had really taken by your maker. Why.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I don't know what it is about them.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And you've had this experience a few times.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I have I have only experienced at one time. Oh really,
you learn you learn pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You learn you didn't go back to that. Well I
did not.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Taylor Swift is causing some backlash once again, not because
of her albums or her music, but her potential future.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Welcome to Tuesday, October fourteenth.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Hey, we have another pair of Chargers tickets to give away,
as a matter of fact, tickets for this Sunday's game.
They're taking on the Innneapolis Colts Caller number seven again,
Shall we do that? Yeah, eight hundred five to zero one,
five three four, eight hundred five to two oh one.
KFI Caller number seven is going to win the next
(23:24):
pair of Chargers tickets. We will have more tickets later
in the show that we're going to be given away.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Why are people upset about Taylor Swift making decisions about
her own life.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well, it's because she did the independent woman, independent girl
making her own way in the world Mary Tyler Moore
esque kind of a deal. And now she's kind of
presenting as a trad wife, the traditional wife that take
a back seat to my man. At least that's how
(23:59):
she's outwardly presenting herself. That's what the optics look like.
I'm I'm at his games, I'm cheering her on. She's
no longer seen as this. I'm doing it alone. I'm
doing it all. I'm an independent woman type of a vibe.
And it's rubbing some people the wrong way. Some people
are saying, it's all. It's almost maga what she's doing.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
So if this incredibly historically successful woman decides she wants
to stop working and live her life however she wants
to decide, she has made more money than your Lord
and Savior, that is, and she now gets to decide
(24:43):
what she wants to do with her life, and people
are upset with that.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I would argue, our Lord and Savior has made a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well maybe in the Catholic Church, but in.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
All of the churches forever. That's a pretty high dollar
estimate there. But that is That's the question Fortune Magazine
is asking here. It is has she betrayed her legacy
of feminist self determination? Or is this simply Swift telling
her own story on her own terms, or.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Is this the absolute definition of feminist self determination?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I would argue it is. I don't know which feminist
that makes me, but fourth wave, sixth wave. But as
a feminist, you get to decide, all right, him, I will,
I will give up my independent I do it all
alone for him.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
RAT one. I choose him.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I made this decision, this is what I want to
do with my life.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm making this.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Call because it's just a decision.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And if you have the freedom to make a decision, yeah,
it doesn't matter which decision you make, it's that you
had the freedom to make the decision in the first place.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think there's some women who are doing it on
their own, and kind of held her up as well.
She's thirty six, she's still single. Yeah, I'm still single.
I'm doing it on my own. She's wildly happy and successful.
I can be wildly happy and successful.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Is there any allegory here between this and the people
who were upset with Lizzo?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I was just coming to the same conclusion for betraying them,
because she kind of supported women are gonna eat, We're
gonna eat, We're gonna look beautiful, and we're eaters and
we're big and it doesn't matter because we're freaking beautiful.
And then she decided she decided to lose, and people
felt left in the in the dark and the cold
without her as they're to a tea the way they
(26:29):
wanted to live their life. It's like if you decided
suddenly that you know you were not gonna do adult
theater anymore and you didn't want to be called the fawns.
I think a lot of us would be like, wait,
but I saw myself in that. You see, I too,
(26:53):
am trying to achieve my dream of Broadway and being
called the fawns.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The fonds maybe, but not the not Broadway?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So if Broadway called you, you would turn them away.
I have work, you have work. I'm sorry. If Broadway
called you, what would they call what would they call Chicago?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
They would call me a ticket buyer is what they
would call me. They would call me an audience member.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Don't say that, Yeah, don't say that, Gary. We don't
like that.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
We don't like that negative stuff, like the stinking thinking, Oh,
what's that is? I didn't what is that?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
What is that? From?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Did you never have a childhood? Nobody told you that,
Nobody accused you of stinking thinking? No, I've never heard
that before.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
What that is? Stinking thinking? Is that how they use it?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, Like if you said I don't want to eat
these beans not so good Elmer doesn't like to eat
bean bad. Yeah, and they'd be like, that's stinking thinking
and thinking.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You need to turn that frown upside down.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I might use this all the time now.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I create you.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Fortunately, Thursday, we are going to be livet at BJ's
Restaurant in brew House in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
We would love it if you would come on out
and let's say hi.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Opposite, because whatever you're doing right now is the opposite
of stinking thinking.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Uh a good thing? Happy happy? I don't know happy thinking.
We'll workshop it. We'll be there from nine to one
doing the show live. And if you've ever wondered what
this show looks like live thoughts in prayers, you're absolutely right.
(28:39):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
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