October 15, 2025 • 31 mins
Gary and Shannon launch into Space Wars, the Vertical Short, before diving into #WhatsHappening: MLB’s record-setting postseason, Katie Porter’s apology tour, Kaiser strikes, ICE raids, and K-Fed’s new Britney-filled memoir. Then it’s on to AI panic via the “Dead Internet Theory” and a cozy wrap-up with #WhatchaWatchinWednesday: John Candy nostalgia, Eddie Murphy’s new doc, and Shannon’s latest true-crime obsessions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
f I A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We have two
more people that have signed up to be in not
my vertical short of Space Wars. They're already in it,
but into Yourself, Bully. Heather Brooker and Michael Monks both
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are in.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good let's do.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It about so we've got we don't have to perform
at a high level. Yeah, like low pay roll kind
of situation. We may Milwaukee Brewers of you know.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
So we've got you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And me Elmer, uh, Heather and Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's five. Matt's in, right, that's six.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Getting closer.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Amy will play Eric Eric possibly we need nine, right, Oliver,
this is America playing cricket. I'm not doing freaking tidy.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Teach him the American way. I don't know about that
with an adult hard.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I don't want to turn cover.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We haven't asked anybody on Conway Show yet.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And I'm not going to Belly.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Belly is a baller.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. We need her. We need Sharon.
Just saying we totally need Sharon. She's secret, She's a secret,
She's a secret weapon at the plate.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We can actually I t guys too.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I don't trust those guys. Dave is a degenerate gambler.
He'll play and he'll bet on wager in our game
and then throw the game. He'll throw eight men out.
You know what happened to the Chicago Black Sox? You
want to to be this Chicago Black Sox.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Now what else is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Time four?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What's happenings?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Up?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
A pair call? Yeah, okay, it's the.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
O two and a swing at a mess and Yoshi
Yamamoto with his clown jewel as a Dodger.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It is a complete game.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
He goes the distance and the Dodgers win Game two
by a score of five to one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But more importantly, Dave Roberts didn't pull him out of
the game. Uh good, great pitching by Yamamoto. Dodgers take
that two nothing lead in the NLCS. Game three is
tomorrow night in Dodger Stadium. Speaking of which, Major League
Baseball is having its most viewed postseason in the US
in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I was telling my husband this because, as you know,
I struggle to watch baseball.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's slow for me. Or historically it has been.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've watched more baseball than I have in years, ever
since they put the pitch clock on and the game
has moved for once, it seems like there's a sense
of urgency watching baseball where I'll pay attention. I'll be oh, wow,
it's a third inning already. I'll look back, Oh, it's
the sixth inning, and then I find myself watching more
and more because of that sense of urgency.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
There's also something going on specific.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yes, we did have with the two major markets were
represented LA in New York and New York got bounced out,
of course. But you've got for even just a casual
sports fans, even if you're not a huge baseball person.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Seeing teams like the.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Seattle Mariners and the Toronto Blue Jays make it this
far with the people that they've got the individuals.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees, it's a fun.
It's there's drama there, you know. And then you've got Humpy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Humpy the salmon, which unfortunately they don't show. I wonder
if they will today. Oh I wonder, huh, that would
be great for them to highlight that. I bet you
they do whoever's I think Fox is doing the alcs.
They do do a good job at doing them. Not
everybody knows the show the story though.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Unless you listen to this show or you're from Seattle,
you don't really know the story of Humpy.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Go back and check out the podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It was in the first hour of our show that
Shannon regaled us with the beautiful telling of Humpy the
Salmon and the impact that he had on.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The extra ending game. Just last Friday night.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
LA County Water Supervisors has passed an emergency proclamation over
the ongoing federal immigration raids, saying they've created the climate
of fear. This proclamation was passed four to one yesterday,
states that the raids have caused residents to be fearful
of leaving their homes to go to work, take public transportation,
and access county services.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Katie Porter, as we mentioned earlier as well, is taking
responsibility for her behavior, saying I could have handled things better.
She acknowledged that she can be tough, but needs to
be better at expressing appreciation for her team owning it.
I'd like her to say, I can be an a whole.
Don't you want an a hole fighting for you? Against
the Trump machine. That's what she should have said. I
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should work for her campaign, but I don't like her.
But it's very easy to write these scripts.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, what you should say.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But if you're chewing through capable people like their cheese,
it's crumbs.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You're not going to have people stick around to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I love chewing through cheese. Its so crunchy.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
She likes chewing through. Stafford also salty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Healthcare workers at Kaiser back on the picket lines the
second day despite all the rain. Yesterday, they were out
five hundred locations in California, Hawaii, and Oregon. They want
better wages, they want prioritization from their employer.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Kevin Fetterline has come out with a memoir where he
just totally sandbags Britney spears, but also calls attention to you.
What we all see if you're on social media and
it's a videos Britney puts up of herself of just
not a mentally complete individual.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
What is a book? Is called you thought you knew?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
He tells anecdotes like how she would stand at her
kids' rooms in the middle of the night with a
knife and the kids would wake up and they'd be
like oh, and she'd be like, oh, you're awake, and.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Then she just wander off.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
He said that he's worried that they may be at
a point where with her where there's just irreversible damage
that can be done in terms of where she's at
with her stability.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Are you worried about Brittany.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm as worried about Brittany as someone with no control
over Brittany can be.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You know, I'm on the other side.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
If she's just eccentric, I think there's definitely the medication
cocktail is not where it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh, that's a very that's a Brittany alone. It's a
very polite thing.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I want her to be happy and healthy. That's what
I want.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's good. You want everybody to be happy and healthy. Mostly,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
There's new Eddie Murphy documentary that's coming out next month.
Get the opportunity to learn about him, Eddie. It's called
Being Eddie. Isn't he one of the more quiet celebrities
that He lived a very public life in the eighties
and nineties and then started once he started developing, that's
(07:20):
not the right word. Once he started building a family
kind of got quieter. It just seems like he's one
of the guys that we don't know a whole lot about.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I loved Eddie Murphy and all those the movies we
grew up with. I haven't liked his stuff that much
of his stuff recently. Like I'll watch a couple Eddie
Murphy vehicles just because he's in it, and I find
them lacking. There was just one that they were pitching
on Amazon, some sort of maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Heist action movie. Oh yes, that just the trailer looked bad.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's with Pete Davidson, if I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah,
I mean you go back to some of those incredible
like the Beverly Hills Cop and forty eight Hours and
even the Golden Touchable.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was so incredible.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I would even say Nutty Professor the originals, I mean,
his original Nutty Professor before he got into the sequels,
is the right?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All Right?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
We come back a little bit more about that AI story.
The more that's scientists, these are smart people, we assume, right.
The more scientists work with artificial intelligence, the less they
trust it. We should we should learn from that.
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Speaker 1 (09:28):
Tell me about the AI dead Internet theory.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So this was something that Sam Altman and Alexis o'hanni
and most recently have been talking about the dead Internet,
which is that the Internet's going to be dominated by
fake well, it's going to be dominated by computer created
stuff and not humans.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That in fact, it already began that since around twenty sixteen,
the Internet has consisted mainly of bought activity. They say
it's an intentional effort to control the population and minimize
organic human activity.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So the issue is, among other things, humans have the
ability to create new stuff. And the way that AI
exists now is it can only look backwards and base
its knowledge on stuff that's already happened, or things that
have already been created, et cetera. You can prompt it.
(10:38):
I mean, that's the way we've been making songs and
these you know these the birthday card that we talked
about yesterday that was written for your you know, the brother,
humorous birthday card for your brother.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That relies on knowledge that it's told about.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You have to tell Ai, have to kind of teach
Ai to do these things, and everything it creates is
based on that stuff. But when you make a copy
of a copy of a copy of a copy of
a copy, it deteriorates. We've seen that for decades. We
learned it all when we were trying to make mimeographs
back in elementary school. So there's a point where creativity
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ends and you're just using old, recycled parts of stuff
to make quote new stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Fifty one percent.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
A cybersecurity company called Imperva says fifty one percent of
Internet traffic in twenty twenty four was generated by bots
as opposed to humans. Fifty one percent. The total was
the first time in a decade that bot activities surpassed
that of humans, and they attributed a lot of that
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to the rise of AI and the large language models,
which have simplified the creation and scaling of bots for
malicious purposes. So the University of Zurich deployed AI generated
bots into a specific subreddit, one that's changed my view,
to study whether or not bots could successfully cause people
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to change their minds on topics contentious topics. The reddit
responded by kicking out those bots. They didn't want that
to happen, And as of right now, we have not
actually seen the results of what the University of Zurich
study came up with. Because if it found that bots
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were able to change human thoughts human behaviors, that's the
beginning of the end.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
If for some reason, some reason people are very impressionable.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, I mean, if it comes up with its own
reason to start influencing human being.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
All the people that control the bots have their reasons
to control human behavior.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But there are safeguards against that. We could always kill
those people.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And you can't kill those people, but you could, cause
people are in Silicon Valley and they've been doing this
to you for years.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But use the example of that mister Rogers Tupac video
that we were talking about earlier this week. Hilarious, entertaining, right,
don't like it, but it was prompted by a human
being saying put mister Rogers and Tupac having a conversation
about wrapping. That's entertainment. If you did something to I
(13:34):
referenced it earlier in the week, like what the war
of the world's moment would be when AI generates something
that is so believable and so potentially damaging that we
all rise up, whatever that means humans within a specific country,
we rise up and overthrow the government something. What is
that and how far away are we from that being
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a reality?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So, for instance, we're at October fifth teenth, if Atlas
AI Atlas, what is it called three I Atlas three
three eye at list comes and we start getting we're
inundated with the Internet telling us that it landed in Sandusky, Ohio, sure,
and that they're starting to kick. The aliens are starting
(14:18):
to They've landed and they are multiplying. They have a
power to multiply, and they're killing all the humans in sight.
And Sandusky, Ohio needs help like they cannot. They are
overpowered by the aliens. We've got to all hands on
deck to Sandusky, Idaho right now. We got to go
grab your your vehicles, grab your guns, grab all of this.
(14:41):
We need every we need America, Like, how many people
if we're inundated on TikTok and Twitter and everything and
AFI news articles, how much of a response would you get?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That's what I'm saying this. I don't think it's out
of the realm of possibilities something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I don't either, And that they could have enough control
over the Internet to just completely blanket it with coverage
of this and then guess what, they also have the
power to flip the switch, so suddenly your phones don't
have Internet, Wi Fi, down phone doesn't have interax. Everyone's
going to Sandusky, Idaho.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Aren't you or Ohio? Or what did I say Ohio?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Ohio?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Or you said Idaho just this Idaho? Last time I
meant Ohio, or maybe there's confusion about which Sandusky. I
don't think there is one.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think there's just just the one.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
But again, I don't think we're that far out of that.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don't waste so either. I think that could literally happen.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
And as one two weeks, think about how much doubt
has been sown amongst the population when it comes to
what the government tells us, and what if you can
believe it? If you can't believe it, can you trust it?
Do you not trust anyone?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And we talked earlier about how most of the things
you read articles are done by AI. It's not a
real person, and they're gonna tell you whatever they want
you to believe, you can believe us and Keem Trails,
we'll do maybe maybe coming up next with her about
Keem Trails.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
And rich drest, Jennet, any chance you'll be at Sofi
Stadium someday?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
My husband want ticket.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
My husband yesterday and we don't really watch football, but
we're gonna go.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
And I thought if you're gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
You can totally tell us what's going on.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It would be so much fun.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Let me know, you willing to narrate the game for them.
Just sit next to them and tell them what's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I keep your eye on that guy. He's gonna he's gonna.
He's gonna drop out a coverridge real quick. Keep an
eye on him.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yes, I will be there. Come join us. It's gonna
be a good time. It's guys, this is gonna be
a great game. These are two at the top of
the AFC, the Colts and the Chargers. And the Colts
are getting a lot of press. It's like the second
act for Daniel Jones, after those miserable years with the Giants,
He's found his footing there in Indianapolis. And don't look now,
but they're tied with the Buccaneers for the lead, leaguing
(17:09):
five leading, five to one record. But who have they
really played? That's why the Chargers are still favored in
this one. So it's going to be a good game.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
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Speaker 3 (17:24):
The Israeli Military C's International Committee, the Red Cross has
received the remains of a couple of more hostages to
be transferred from the Gaza strip into the custody of
the Israelis. The transfers today came hours after Israel sate
one of the bodies that was previously turned over was
not in fact that of a hostage. Israel's military said
(17:46):
that the coffins were going to be given to forces
in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Ceasefire called for all hostages.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Living in dead to be handed over by a deadline
that expired actually a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What you watch in Wednesday brings us a tale of
somebody who we can all agree on, John Candy.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The following program is brought to you in living color,
but you watching in there. Americans love television. They win
their kids on USA television.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Matt, You've been watching too many of those live television shows.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So I saw this being pushed on Amazon Prime. I
like me a documentary about John Candy, The Life and
Death of interviews with people that he was in with
SNL Second City before Second City, John Hughes, and all
of those movies he did. Macaulay Culkin points out at
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one point, John Candy did more more John Hughes movies
than anybody. He did nine and the two were best friends.
They really respected and loved each other. And I was
telling I was on a flight, so I needed some
to download. There's no Wi Fi And I said to Matt,
Matt Smith, I said, oh, I downloaded that John Candy
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documentary for The Way Homie Goes. I was going to
do the same thing, but I was worried it would
be too sad. And I said, yeah, I know what
I'm signing up for John Candy documentary would make.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
And you do, you do.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's a nostalgia, especially if you're a certain age group
like our age group grew up watching those movies and
they're indelible, you know. And you know when you think
about Uncle Buck, how good he was. John Hughes wrote
that book movie for John Candy. He didn't cast John Candy.
He wrote the movie for John Candy. That's why it
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was so perfect for him. Start to finish. You know,
they talked to Steve Martin about planes, trains and automobiles
and about that heartbreaking speech at the end. It's just
it's really well done and it shed light on like
who he was, and part of it was his weight
wasn't who he was. And I think that people who
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are overweight oftentimes get profiled as the overweight guy or
the overweight girl, and nobody digs out further to find
out like who's in there kind of a thing. And
it was no different for John Candy. He was just
the overweight fun guy. And it's like, no, he was
a person, and he came with good things and bad
things and faults and worries and all the things that
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you never thought to ask yourself about who is John Candy.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
There's a telling moment in the trailer of I Believe
it's his son saying, when he's dealing with all these pressures,
you are eating your feelings, you're smoking your feelings, you're
drinking your feelings away, like all of the when you
have that much pressure on you, and that's those are
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the ways that you're dealing with them, and you're already
to begin with probably not the healthiest.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
There's a time limit on that.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You can't do that forever.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, And that was the sad realization from his own
son to hear him have to say that about his dad.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
John Candy was what forty two forty three when he died.
I'm not wild, but Yeah, they talk about that, and
it gets into the sucubus that Hollywood can be in
terms of when you get big, and it's just they
want more from you, and more from you and more
from you. That add into all the things we were
just talking about in the pressures. But it's real sweet
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stuff too about you know, when he played a dad,
which he did frequently. You know, you think of the
Great Outdoors, you think of some of those movies that
he played the dad in, and his kids talk about
that's kind of who he was. He wasn't playing a
role like that's who he was, and that came across
watching those movies.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, that was the other part about the I've only
seen the trailer. We're going to watch this tonight. We've
planned it out. That's how we live our lives. But
there was who was it one of his long time
she was in the home alone movies.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
The one from from Schitz Creek.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yes, Catherine o'harah thank you says.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
He played all these different characters, but in each one
of them was a big part of.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Johntlly And she nailed it with that, right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
One of the great anecdotes, and it's being written up
there's no spoiler here, is that there's one of those
great Hollywood stories. It's detailed where John Candy sees Jack
Nicholson out one night and Jack Nicholson's like, come drink
with me, and.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It's Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Of course you're going to stay out all night drinking
with Jack Nicholson. Why wouldn't you? And it was just
this great time. It was everything you can imagine it
would be all night out.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
With Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And the thing is is that John Canny's got a
scene to shoot for Splash with Tom Hanks the next day,
and it's the racquetball scene and it worked perfectly. I mean,
he's exhausted, he's very little sleep, he's hung over, and
it fit perfectly. And they show some of the footage
of that scene in the documentary and it's just one
of those legendary Hollywood stories that they get they get
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into more, but I recommend it. Yes, I ended up
crying a little bit, but you knew you were good.
But I knew what I was getting into.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Produced by Ryan Reynolds originally, there's other producers that are
on this, including John Candy's kids, Colanks as the director too. Yeah,
that's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Again. It's on Amazon Prime. It's called John Candy, I
Like Me.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
A couple of shows that we've been watching, and some
others that you have been watching.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
When we come back to what you watch on Wednesday, you're.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It can be funny, snartcastic way of speaking.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But when it's real.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Honest, oh, that ruins it for me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We've my wife and I've been wrapping up Black Rabbit.
It's on Netflix. Jude Law Jason Bateman as brothers who
just continually make a series of bad decisions over the
course of their life.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Very well done. It's well written.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
A couple of weird things in there that probably didn't
need to be in there, some weird connections that come
up late in the series. But well performed, I would say,
by Jason Bateman and Jude Law as the main as
the two main characters. Tony Kutzar, do you remember the
movie Coda Children of Deaf Adults. He was the father
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in that. Okay, he plays kind of a I don't
say gangster, but but he plays a relative bad guy
in this and does a fantastic job. Still, so that's
again it's pretty dark, and the problem with it is
that there's nobody to root for. It's one of those
things where it even the most depressing shows, there's usually
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a good person that you can root for, and this
one that's.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Just that's interesting because I watched the first episode of
Black Rabbit and maybe the second I remember, but I
found them to be flawed but likable people. It gets
it gets away from that. Oh yeah, oh that's unfortunate. Yeah,
we could watch it for that reason alone.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Again, I thought, reach those first episode or two and
you're like, oh, I'm going to pick a side here, Yeah,
not a root for No, really, oh awful.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Interesting. I have two things to recommend. If you read
the book The Woman in Cabin Ten, it was a
very popular book. She went on to write great books,
all with the same level of fun suspense like that.
This was her first I think that had wide appeal,
at least in the United States. I think she's a
(25:33):
writer from the UK whose name escapes me right now.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Cira Knightley. No, that's the actress.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, but anyway, Also on Netflix, The Woman in Cabin
Ten is excellent I watched it, and it is exactly
like the book from what I remember. They do a
good job of sticking close to the book, and it
is good. It's only an hour and a half. It's
a fun watch. I would recommend it for you and
your wife and then my father. The BTK Killer. It
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is oddly soothing to watch that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Such a such a weird thing to find soothing. But
you did explain that yesterday. So what else are people watching?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Hey guys, I am watching Tulsa King. I just started
watching it, and I was hesitant at first because I
didn't know if I was gonna like the RUSSI she's alone,
you know, he looks a bit different and his voice
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But it's actually really good.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
I've been binge watching it with my husband and it's
really good. He's actually great in that role. It's got
some funny and a little bit of action type mafia stuff,
but it's good.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I haven't gotten into that, but it's supposed to be
Tulsa King.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The author that I was searching for is Ruth Where.
Ruth Where. She has written a bunch of good books
that I have read. The Woman in Cabin Ten, was
one of them.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Ruth Ware.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
She also wrote in a Dark art would that was
the preceding one, and since has come up with a
bunch of good suspense.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
The Monster the ed Green Story, I gotta say, I
feel like it's watching it looking out my window, making
sure no one sees what I'm watching.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I know.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I watched
one episode. I was like, it's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
We had my daughter and a couple of her friends
over last weekend and they were talking about that. Yeah,
what they're saying, Monster the ed Green Story, and they're
fascinated by it. They love it, And I thought that's
an awful place to be all young women. We all
like it's the true crime thing. And they admitted that's
why they said they liked it, because they're all into
the true crime.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Has she read All be Gone in the Dark?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't she really liked that. I told you though,
my wife is going to read that for a book club.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Oh yeah, I think you right.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I think it's it's an odd selection because it was
big like ten years ago. Yeah, but it's a great book.
It's really well done.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Gar and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
For what you're watching Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I've actually went back a little bit, got out some
old DVDs, watching.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Married with Children on Timely.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's actually rather nice just watching things funny, just simple
have a.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Good day, everybody, which is why we liked Leanne the
Leanne Morgan Stick.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That was a good show. That was that was nice
and comforting. I will say this about I'll Be Gone
in the Dark being a book club. The only I've
never been in a book club, and the closest I
got to being in a book club was reading that
book at the same time of two of my friends,
because we'd read a little bit and be like, oh,
did you see this? So what do you think about that?
It's perfect for a book club, Like it's the book.
It would be a quintessential book club read.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So but for periodic updates, I'm curious as did that
mechanism versus reading it completely and then what you know
and then doing them.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, well, I think the way it went is, you know,
we were all reading it kind of around the same time,
and then after we finished, we kind of what about
this and what about that?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And it's it's perfect.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah, you're Shannon Cliff in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Love the show.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
What you watch on Wednesday. I'm going to call out
for two. One of them, I know a lot of
people are watching, and that's HBO's task. Absolutely phenomenal show,
so so so damn good. And the other one I
just started watching was The Chair Company, also on HBO.
What's in a pretty cool so far only one episode,
but interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I feel like I can ask questions of the people
on talk back and I just realized I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Share Company on HBO is about They say it's a
comedy thriller. Tim Robinson, you may remember him from Saturday
Night Live, and I think you should leave. Among the
executive producers for The Chair Company Adam McKay, who did,
if I'm not mistaken, helped out with.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Asseverance.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The Chair Company tells the story of William Ronald Trosper,
played by that by Tim Robinson, begins investigating a vast
and elaborate conspiracy after an embarrassing workplace incident. Anything with
Tim Robinson, It's going to be funny, yeah, but comedy
thriller is the way that they pitch it on HbA.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Might give it a shot just because I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Do you remember Friendship?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah? It did. Stack Guy Okay, isn't it that is
that the vibe? Yeah? Okay, got it, and now I
know exactly what it is. Thank you Ema.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Hey tomorrow live at Bjay's Restaurant in brew House in
Huntington Beach. We'll be doing the show out there, and
we would love to see you out there.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Come join us. We have some stuff that we're going
to be giving.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Away, are things, and uh, probably a hat tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Really yeah, on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
On a Thursday, which that also means that I'm probably
gonna wear a hat on a Friday.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
So you're phoning it in two days this week.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Two days in a row.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
What is it you have to wear a hat at
a bar? Or what?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It helps me feel comfortable? Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, it's like, you know, it's like that kid in
the movie with the sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, I was going to say, it's like the former
football player who liked to keep his helmet on during interviews.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Okay, whatever you need to do is fine with me.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What are you gonna wear?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Probably wear my Space Force T shirt. I wore Space
Wars T shirt a week ago. I know I forgot
that I had one until you wore it. Now I
remember I have one.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Where do you keep the stuff that you don't remember.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
It's just my drawer. It's with other T shirts. You
know how it goes.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
We'll be out there nine to one on the show
Pj's Restaurant in brew House on Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Come on out.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We don't care how you get there, just get there.
The John Cobell Show us up next. We'll see it
live tomorrow. Stay drive everybody, blessings.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
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It about so we've got we don't have to perform
at a high level. Yeah, like low pay roll kind
of situation. We may Milwaukee Brewers of you know.
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So we've got you.
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And me Elmer, uh, Heather and Michael.
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That's five. Matt's in, right, that's six.
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Getting closer.
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Amy will play Eric Eric possibly we need nine, right, Oliver,
this is America playing cricket. I'm not doing freaking tidy.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Teach him the American way. I don't know about that
with an adult hard.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I don't want to turn cover.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We haven't asked anybody on Conway Show yet.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And I'm not going to Belly.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Belly is a baller.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. We need her. We need Sharon.
Just saying we totally need Sharon. She's secret, She's a secret,
She's a secret weapon at the plate.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We can actually I t guys too.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I don't trust those guys. Dave is a degenerate gambler.
He'll play and he'll bet on wager in our game
and then throw the game. He'll throw eight men out.
You know what happened to the Chicago Black Sox? You
want to to be this Chicago Black Sox.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Now what else is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Time four?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What's happenings?
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Up?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
A pair call? Yeah, okay, it's the.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
O two and a swing at a mess and Yoshi
Yamamoto with his clown jewel as a Dodger.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It is a complete game.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
He goes the distance and the Dodgers win Game two
by a score of five to one.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But more importantly, Dave Roberts didn't pull him out of
the game. Uh good, great pitching by Yamamoto. Dodgers take
that two nothing lead in the NLCS. Game three is
tomorrow night in Dodger Stadium. Speaking of which, Major League
Baseball is having its most viewed postseason in the US
in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I was telling my husband this because, as you know,
I struggle to watch baseball.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's slow for me. Or historically it has been.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've watched more baseball than I have in years, ever
since they put the pitch clock on and the game
has moved for once, it seems like there's a sense
of urgency watching baseball where I'll pay attention. I'll be oh, wow,
it's a third inning already. I'll look back, Oh, it's
the sixth inning, and then I find myself watching more
and more because of that sense of urgency.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
There's also something going on specific.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yes, we did have with the two major markets were
represented LA in New York and New York got bounced out,
of course. But you've got for even just a casual
sports fans, even if you're not a huge baseball person.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Seeing teams like the.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Seattle Mariners and the Toronto Blue Jays make it this
far with the people that they've got the individuals.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees, it's a fun.
It's there's drama there, you know. And then you've got Humpy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Humpy the salmon, which unfortunately they don't show. I wonder
if they will today. Oh I wonder, huh, that would
be great for them to highlight that. I bet you
they do whoever's I think Fox is doing the alcs.
They do do a good job at doing them. Not
everybody knows the show the story though.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Unless you listen to this show or you're from Seattle,
you don't really know the story of Humpy.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Go back and check out the podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It was in the first hour of our show that
Shannon regaled us with the beautiful telling of Humpy the
Salmon and the impact that he had on.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The extra ending game. Just last Friday night.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
LA County Water Supervisors has passed an emergency proclamation over
the ongoing federal immigration raids, saying they've created the climate
of fear. This proclamation was passed four to one yesterday,
states that the raids have caused residents to be fearful
of leaving their homes to go to work, take public transportation,
and access county services.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Katie Porter, as we mentioned earlier as well, is taking
responsibility for her behavior, saying I could have handled things better.
She acknowledged that she can be tough, but needs to
be better at expressing appreciation for her team owning it.
I'd like her to say, I can be an a whole.
Don't you want an a hole fighting for you? Against
the Trump machine. That's what she should have said. I
(05:04):
should work for her campaign, but I don't like her.
But it's very easy to write these scripts.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, what you should say.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But if you're chewing through capable people like their cheese,
it's crumbs.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You're not going to have people stick around to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I love chewing through cheese. Its so crunchy.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
She likes chewing through. Stafford also salty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Healthcare workers at Kaiser back on the picket lines the
second day despite all the rain. Yesterday, they were out
five hundred locations in California, Hawaii, and Oregon. They want
better wages, they want prioritization from their employer.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Kevin Fetterline has come out with a memoir where he
just totally sandbags Britney spears, but also calls attention to you.
What we all see if you're on social media and
it's a videos Britney puts up of herself of just
not a mentally complete individual.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
What is a book? Is called you thought you knew?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
He tells anecdotes like how she would stand at her
kids' rooms in the middle of the night with a
knife and the kids would wake up and they'd be
like oh, and she'd be like, oh, you're awake, and.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Then she just wander off.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
He said that he's worried that they may be at
a point where with her where there's just irreversible damage
that can be done in terms of where she's at
with her stability.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Are you worried about Brittany.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm as worried about Brittany as someone with no control
over Brittany can be.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You know, I'm on the other side.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
If she's just eccentric, I think there's definitely the medication
cocktail is not where it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh, that's a very that's a Brittany alone. It's a
very polite thing.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I want her to be happy and healthy. That's what
I want.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's good. You want everybody to be happy and healthy. Mostly,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
There's new Eddie Murphy documentary that's coming out next month.
Get the opportunity to learn about him, Eddie. It's called
Being Eddie. Isn't he one of the more quiet celebrities
that He lived a very public life in the eighties
and nineties and then started once he started developing, that's
(07:20):
not the right word. Once he started building a family
kind of got quieter. It just seems like he's one
of the guys that we don't know a whole lot about.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I loved Eddie Murphy and all those the movies we
grew up with. I haven't liked his stuff that much
of his stuff recently. Like I'll watch a couple Eddie
Murphy vehicles just because he's in it, and I find
them lacking. There was just one that they were pitching
on Amazon, some sort of maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Heist action movie. Oh yes, that just the trailer looked bad.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's with Pete Davidson, if I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah,
I mean you go back to some of those incredible
like the Beverly Hills Cop and forty eight Hours and
even the Golden Touchable.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was so incredible.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I would even say Nutty Professor the originals, I mean,
his original Nutty Professor before he got into the sequels,
is the right?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All Right?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
We come back a little bit more about that AI story.
The more that's scientists, these are smart people, we assume, right.
The more scientists work with artificial intelligence, the less they
trust it. We should we should learn from that.
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Tell me about the AI dead Internet theory.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So this was something that Sam Altman and Alexis o'hanni
and most recently have been talking about the dead Internet,
which is that the Internet's going to be dominated by
fake well, it's going to be dominated by computer created
stuff and not humans.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That in fact, it already began that since around twenty sixteen,
the Internet has consisted mainly of bought activity. They say
it's an intentional effort to control the population and minimize
organic human activity.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
So the issue is, among other things, humans have the
ability to create new stuff. And the way that AI
exists now is it can only look backwards and base
its knowledge on stuff that's already happened, or things that
have already been created, et cetera. You can prompt it.
(10:38):
I mean, that's the way we've been making songs and
these you know these the birthday card that we talked
about yesterday that was written for your you know, the brother,
humorous birthday card for your brother.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That relies on knowledge that it's told about.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You have to tell Ai, have to kind of teach
Ai to do these things, and everything it creates is
based on that stuff. But when you make a copy
of a copy of a copy of a copy of
a copy, it deteriorates. We've seen that for decades. We
learned it all when we were trying to make mimeographs
back in elementary school. So there's a point where creativity
(11:18):
ends and you're just using old, recycled parts of stuff
to make quote new stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Fifty one percent.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
A cybersecurity company called Imperva says fifty one percent of
Internet traffic in twenty twenty four was generated by bots
as opposed to humans. Fifty one percent. The total was
the first time in a decade that bot activities surpassed
that of humans, and they attributed a lot of that
(11:50):
to the rise of AI and the large language models,
which have simplified the creation and scaling of bots for
malicious purposes. So the University of Zurich deployed AI generated
bots into a specific subreddit, one that's changed my view,
to study whether or not bots could successfully cause people
(12:12):
to change their minds on topics contentious topics. The reddit
responded by kicking out those bots. They didn't want that
to happen, And as of right now, we have not
actually seen the results of what the University of Zurich
study came up with. Because if it found that bots
(12:34):
were able to change human thoughts human behaviors, that's the
beginning of the end.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
If for some reason, some reason people are very impressionable.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Well, I mean, if it comes up with its own
reason to start influencing human being.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
All the people that control the bots have their reasons
to control human behavior.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But there are safeguards against that. We could always kill
those people.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And you can't kill those people, but you could, cause
people are in Silicon Valley and they've been doing this
to you for years.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But use the example of that mister Rogers Tupac video
that we were talking about earlier this week. Hilarious, entertaining, right,
don't like it, but it was prompted by a human
being saying put mister Rogers and Tupac having a conversation
about wrapping. That's entertainment. If you did something to I
(13:34):
referenced it earlier in the week, like what the war
of the world's moment would be when AI generates something
that is so believable and so potentially damaging that we
all rise up, whatever that means humans within a specific country,
we rise up and overthrow the government something. What is
that and how far away are we from that being
(13:56):
a reality?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So, for instance, we're at October fifth teenth, if Atlas
AI Atlas, what is it called three I Atlas three
three eye at list comes and we start getting we're
inundated with the Internet telling us that it landed in Sandusky, Ohio, sure,
and that they're starting to kick. The aliens are starting
(14:18):
to They've landed and they are multiplying. They have a
power to multiply, and they're killing all the humans in sight.
And Sandusky, Ohio needs help like they cannot. They are
overpowered by the aliens. We've got to all hands on
deck to Sandusky, Idaho right now. We got to go
grab your your vehicles, grab your guns, grab all of this.
(14:41):
We need every we need America, Like, how many people
if we're inundated on TikTok and Twitter and everything and
AFI news articles, how much of a response would you get?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That's what I'm saying this. I don't think it's out
of the realm of possibilities something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I don't either, And that they could have enough control
over the Internet to just completely blanket it with coverage
of this and then guess what, they also have the
power to flip the switch, so suddenly your phones don't
have Internet, Wi Fi, down phone doesn't have interax. Everyone's
going to Sandusky, Idaho.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Aren't you or Ohio? Or what did I say Ohio?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Ohio?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Or you said Idaho just this Idaho? Last time I
meant Ohio, or maybe there's confusion about which Sandusky. I
don't think there is one.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think there's just just the one.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
But again, I don't think we're that far out of that.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don't waste so either. I think that could literally happen.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
And as one two weeks, think about how much doubt
has been sown amongst the population when it comes to
what the government tells us, and what if you can
believe it? If you can't believe it, can you trust it?
Do you not trust anyone?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And we talked earlier about how most of the things
you read articles are done by AI. It's not a
real person, and they're gonna tell you whatever they want
you to believe, you can believe us and Keem Trails,
we'll do maybe maybe coming up next with her about
Keem Trails.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
And rich drest, Jennet, any chance you'll be at Sofi
Stadium someday?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
My husband want ticket.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
My husband yesterday and we don't really watch football, but
we're gonna go.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
And I thought if you're gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
You can totally tell us what's going on.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It would be so much fun.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Let me know, you willing to narrate the game for them.
Just sit next to them and tell them what's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I keep your eye on that guy. He's gonna he's gonna.
He's gonna drop out a coverridge real quick. Keep an
eye on him.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yes, I will be there. Come join us. It's gonna
be a good time. It's guys, this is gonna be
a great game. These are two at the top of
the AFC, the Colts and the Chargers. And the Colts
are getting a lot of press. It's like the second
act for Daniel Jones, after those miserable years with the Giants,
He's found his footing there in Indianapolis. And don't look now,
but they're tied with the Buccaneers for the lead, leaguing
(17:09):
five leading, five to one record. But who have they
really played? That's why the Chargers are still favored in
this one. So it's going to be a good game.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 3 (17:24):
The Israeli Military C's International Committee, the Red Cross has
received the remains of a couple of more hostages to
be transferred from the Gaza strip into the custody of
the Israelis. The transfers today came hours after Israel sate
one of the bodies that was previously turned over was
not in fact that of a hostage. Israel's military said
(17:46):
that the coffins were going to be given to forces
in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Ceasefire called for all hostages.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Living in dead to be handed over by a deadline
that expired actually a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What you watch in Wednesday brings us a tale of
somebody who we can all agree on, John Candy.
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Matt, You've been watching too many of those live television shows.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So I saw this being pushed on Amazon Prime. I
like me a documentary about John Candy, The Life and
Death of interviews with people that he was in with
SNL Second City before Second City, John Hughes, and all
of those movies he did. Macaulay Culkin points out at
(18:38):
one point, John Candy did more more John Hughes movies
than anybody. He did nine and the two were best friends.
They really respected and loved each other. And I was
telling I was on a flight, so I needed some
to download. There's no Wi Fi And I said to Matt,
Matt Smith, I said, oh, I downloaded that John Candy
(19:00):
documentary for The Way Homie Goes. I was going to
do the same thing, but I was worried it would
be too sad. And I said, yeah, I know what
I'm signing up for John Candy documentary would make.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
And you do, you do.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's a nostalgia, especially if you're a certain age group
like our age group grew up watching those movies and
they're indelible, you know. And you know when you think
about Uncle Buck, how good he was. John Hughes wrote
that book movie for John Candy. He didn't cast John Candy.
He wrote the movie for John Candy. That's why it
(19:31):
was so perfect for him. Start to finish. You know,
they talked to Steve Martin about planes, trains and automobiles
and about that heartbreaking speech at the end. It's just
it's really well done and it shed light on like
who he was, and part of it was his weight
wasn't who he was. And I think that people who
(19:52):
are overweight oftentimes get profiled as the overweight guy or
the overweight girl, and nobody digs out further to find
out like who's in there kind of a thing. And
it was no different for John Candy. He was just
the overweight fun guy. And it's like, no, he was
a person, and he came with good things and bad
things and faults and worries and all the things that
(20:14):
you never thought to ask yourself about who is John Candy.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
There's a telling moment in the trailer of I Believe
it's his son saying, when he's dealing with all these pressures,
you are eating your feelings, you're smoking your feelings, you're
drinking your feelings away, like all of the when you
have that much pressure on you, and that's those are
(20:38):
the ways that you're dealing with them, and you're already
to begin with probably not the healthiest.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
There's a time limit on that.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You can't do that forever.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, And that was the sad realization from his own
son to hear him have to say that about his dad.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
John Candy was what forty two forty three when he died.
I'm not wild, but Yeah, they talk about that, and
it gets into the sucubus that Hollywood can be in
terms of when you get big, and it's just they
want more from you, and more from you and more
from you. That add into all the things we were
just talking about in the pressures. But it's real sweet
(21:16):
stuff too about you know, when he played a dad,
which he did frequently. You know, you think of the
Great Outdoors, you think of some of those movies that
he played the dad in, and his kids talk about
that's kind of who he was. He wasn't playing a
role like that's who he was, and that came across
watching those movies.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, that was the other part about the I've only
seen the trailer. We're going to watch this tonight. We've
planned it out. That's how we live our lives. But
there was who was it one of his long time
she was in the home alone movies.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
The one from from Schitz Creek.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yes, Catherine o'harah thank you says.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
He played all these different characters, but in each one
of them was a big part of.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Johntlly And she nailed it with that, right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
One of the great anecdotes, and it's being written up
there's no spoiler here, is that there's one of those
great Hollywood stories. It's detailed where John Candy sees Jack
Nicholson out one night and Jack Nicholson's like, come drink
with me, and.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It's Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Of course you're going to stay out all night drinking
with Jack Nicholson. Why wouldn't you? And it was just
this great time. It was everything you can imagine it
would be all night out.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
With Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And the thing is is that John Canny's got a
scene to shoot for Splash with Tom Hanks the next day,
and it's the racquetball scene and it worked perfectly. I mean,
he's exhausted, he's very little sleep, he's hung over, and
it fit perfectly. And they show some of the footage
of that scene in the documentary and it's just one
of those legendary Hollywood stories that they get they get
(22:56):
into more, but I recommend it. Yes, I ended up
crying a little bit, but you knew you were good.
But I knew what I was getting into.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Produced by Ryan Reynolds originally, there's other producers that are
on this, including John Candy's kids, Colanks as the director too. Yeah,
that's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Again. It's on Amazon Prime. It's called John Candy, I
Like Me.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
A couple of shows that we've been watching, and some
others that you have been watching.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
When we come back to what you watch on Wednesday, you're.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It can be funny, snartcastic way of speaking.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But when it's real.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Honest, oh, that ruins it for me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We've my wife and I've been wrapping up Black Rabbit.
It's on Netflix. Jude Law Jason Bateman as brothers who
just continually make a series of bad decisions over the
course of their life.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Very well done. It's well written.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
A couple of weird things in there that probably didn't
need to be in there, some weird connections that come
up late in the series. But well performed, I would say,
by Jason Bateman and Jude Law as the main as
the two main characters. Tony Kutzar, do you remember the
movie Coda Children of Deaf Adults. He was the father
(24:17):
in that. Okay, he plays kind of a I don't
say gangster, but but he plays a relative bad guy
in this and does a fantastic job. Still, so that's
again it's pretty dark, and the problem with it is
that there's nobody to root for. It's one of those
things where it even the most depressing shows, there's usually
(24:43):
a good person that you can root for, and this
one that's.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Just that's interesting because I watched the first episode of
Black Rabbit and maybe the second I remember, but I
found them to be flawed but likable people. It gets
it gets away from that. Oh yeah, oh that's unfortunate. Yeah,
we could watch it for that reason alone.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Again, I thought, reach those first episode or two and
you're like, oh, I'm going to pick a side here, Yeah,
not a root for No, really, oh awful.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Interesting. I have two things to recommend. If you read
the book The Woman in Cabin Ten, it was a
very popular book. She went on to write great books,
all with the same level of fun suspense like that.
This was her first I think that had wide appeal,
at least in the United States. I think she's a
(25:33):
writer from the UK whose name escapes me right now.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Cira Knightley. No, that's the actress.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, but anyway, Also on Netflix, The Woman in Cabin
Ten is excellent I watched it, and it is exactly
like the book from what I remember. They do a
good job of sticking close to the book, and it
is good. It's only an hour and a half. It's
a fun watch. I would recommend it for you and
your wife and then my father. The BTK Killer. It
(26:02):
is oddly soothing to watch that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Such a such a weird thing to find soothing. But
you did explain that yesterday. So what else are people watching?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Hey guys, I am watching Tulsa King. I just started
watching it, and I was hesitant at first because I
didn't know if I was gonna like the RUSSI she's alone,
you know, he looks a bit different and his voice
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But it's actually really good.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
I've been binge watching it with my husband and it's
really good. He's actually great in that role. It's got
some funny and a little bit of action type mafia stuff,
but it's good.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I haven't gotten into that, but it's supposed to be
Tulsa King.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The author that I was searching for is Ruth Where.
Ruth Where. She has written a bunch of good books
that I have read. The Woman in Cabin Ten, was
one of them.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Ruth Ware.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
She also wrote in a Dark art would that was
the preceding one, and since has come up with a
bunch of good suspense.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
The Monster the ed Green Story, I gotta say, I
feel like it's watching it looking out my window, making
sure no one sees what I'm watching.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I know.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I watched
one episode. I was like, it's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
We had my daughter and a couple of her friends
over last weekend and they were talking about that. Yeah,
what they're saying, Monster the ed Green Story, and they're
fascinated by it. They love it, And I thought that's
an awful place to be all young women. We all
like it's the true crime thing. And they admitted that's
why they said they liked it, because they're all into
the true crime.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Has she read All be Gone in the Dark?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't she really liked that. I told you though,
my wife is going to read that for a book club.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Oh yeah, I think you right.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I think it's it's an odd selection because it was
big like ten years ago. Yeah, but it's a great book.
It's really well done.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Gar and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
For what you're watching Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I've actually went back a little bit, got out some
old DVDs, watching.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Married with Children on Timely.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's actually rather nice just watching things funny, just simple
have a.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Good day, everybody, which is why we liked Leanne the
Leanne Morgan Stick.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That was a good show. That was that was nice
and comforting. I will say this about I'll Be Gone
in the Dark being a book club. The only I've
never been in a book club, and the closest I
got to being in a book club was reading that
book at the same time of two of my friends,
because we'd read a little bit and be like, oh,
did you see this? So what do you think about that?
It's perfect for a book club, Like it's the book.
It would be a quintessential book club read.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So but for periodic updates, I'm curious as did that
mechanism versus reading it completely and then what you know
and then doing them.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, well, I think the way it went is, you know,
we were all reading it kind of around the same time,
and then after we finished, we kind of what about
this and what about that?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And it's it's perfect.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah, you're Shannon Cliff in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Love the show.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
What you watch on Wednesday. I'm going to call out
for two. One of them, I know a lot of
people are watching, and that's HBO's task. Absolutely phenomenal show,
so so so damn good. And the other one I
just started watching was The Chair Company, also on HBO.
What's in a pretty cool so far only one episode,
but interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I feel like I can ask questions of the people
on talk back and I just realized I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Share Company on HBO is about They say it's a
comedy thriller. Tim Robinson, you may remember him from Saturday
Night Live, and I think you should leave. Among the
executive producers for The Chair Company Adam McKay, who did,
if I'm not mistaken, helped out with.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Asseverance.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The Chair Company tells the story of William Ronald Trosper,
played by that by Tim Robinson, begins investigating a vast
and elaborate conspiracy after an embarrassing workplace incident. Anything with
Tim Robinson, It's going to be funny, yeah, but comedy
thriller is the way that they pitch it on HbA.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Might give it a shot just because I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Do you remember Friendship?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah? It did. Stack Guy Okay, isn't it that is
that the vibe? Yeah? Okay, got it, and now I
know exactly what it is. Thank you Ema.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Hey tomorrow live at Bjay's Restaurant in brew House in
Huntington Beach. We'll be doing the show out there, and
we would love to see you out there.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Come join us. We have some stuff that we're going
to be giving.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Away, are things, and uh, probably a hat tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Really yeah, on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
On a Thursday, which that also means that I'm probably
gonna wear a hat on a Friday.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
So you're phoning it in two days this week.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Two days in a row.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
What is it you have to wear a hat at
a bar? Or what?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It helps me feel comfortable? Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay, it's like, you know, it's like that kid in
the movie with the sunglasses.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No, I was going to say, it's like the former
football player who liked to keep his helmet on during interviews.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Okay, whatever you need to do is fine with me.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What are you gonna wear?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Probably wear my Space Force T shirt. I wore Space
Wars T shirt a week ago. I know I forgot
that I had one until you wore it. Now I
remember I have one.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Where do you keep the stuff that you don't remember.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
It's just my drawer. It's with other T shirts. You
know how it goes.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
We'll be out there nine to one on the show
Pj's Restaurant in brew House on Beach Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Come on out.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We don't care how you get there, just get there.
The John Cobell Show us up next. We'll see it
live tomorrow. Stay drive everybody, blessings.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
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