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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Okay, the chase is over this big rig bob tailing guy.
It's done, and it looks like they have taken two
people out of the cab of that big rig. Again,
this was where a chase where the bear Cat was involved,
the big armored carrier. It's got a bunch of people
inside of it. Once they stopped. It looks like at
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where I write it down, Franklin and.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well you look at that.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
The line I think of the coverage from professional journalist
Shannon farn was, was that a way moo?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well, it looks like no, he was reaching into another
car that had something on its roots.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
From our perspective watching the news coverage and listening in
the other room, it sounded like you thought the bear
Cat was a big way.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, I was shocked when I saw that Perrywinkle colored
Ford Explorer pull up is the word you Userillian and
box that that thing in and the officer gets out
because it looked like a civilian vehicle and all of
a sudden, an officer gets out.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
And you could see his arms from the eye in
the sky.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Think it does. I think it is. Maybe you just
you could be honest about your feelings. Yeah, there it is.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But let me just say, since we're talking about arms,
bless their hearts for calling that a potential kidnapping, because
I've never seen a kidnapping suspect with two sleeves at
standing at six three.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
You know, I don't think those were You thought those
were tattoos.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think, oh, I know, I think those I think
that was a long sleeve shirt underneath it's.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Ninety degrees and human. Yeah, those were sleeve tattoos.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Forty bucks. It says there was are tattoos.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Automatic.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I can't big riggs are all automatics? Is what that
guy really new?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Ones?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
That makes me sad about this country? Not that makes
me very Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
My friend, I've never respected a friend so much. My
friend bought a truck because it was stick shift so
he could teach his sons how to drive a stick shift,
and then immediately sold it.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, there's something wrong with that, But I don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
There is just hard to sell a truck after you
drop the transmission.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Weekend, it's time for swamp Watch.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We got from yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The other side never candle, Yes, yeah, I'm not going.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I forgot about watch.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I can imagine what can Well, it's kind of comedy,
so you're in the right place.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Just stupid.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
A political blunder is when a politician actually tells the
truth whether people voted for you.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Last Okay, a political blunder is what this book tour
is seven days. If you thought Kamala Harris's run up
to try to be president was comical, hold that beer,
because the book tour is a disaster. It is an
absolute disaster. She went on one of the shows and
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said that running for president is harder than being president.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Okay, okay, Well, I don't know what the expectation is
from her. I listen she said. She literally said she
didn't choose Pete Boudagege as a running mate, despite the
fact that he would have been her first choice because
he was gay. That's why she said she didn't choose him.
Because she said she was afraid that America wouldn't be
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ready for a black woman and a woman, a black woman,
a black woman married to a Jewish guy, picking a
gay vice presidential running mate.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I get in trouble for going after Kamala Harris, and
I have and yesterday I used the word embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Her run was embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, guess what for all the people that get mad
at me every time I talk about Kamala Harris. You
know what, all Democrats, not all Democrats, but a lot
of prominent Democrats are calling this embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
That was the word in the headlines this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Because she's laying out everyone.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
She's not talking about whether her candidacy was a good
candidacy and whether she was the right person to step
in once Joe Biden was going to step down and
she didn't talk. It was it was a completely upon
the party to say, if we don't have our number
one guy in Biden, we need to pick a new
number one person. And they didn't do that. I mean
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they as a group didn't do that. There was a
couple of power players that got to make this choice
and say we're going to make history by pushing Kamala
Harris into this position whether or not she's a good
candidate and whether or not she's capable of winning.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
In an interview with ABC's Good Morning America, she said
she regretted not confronting Biden over his decision to run
for reelection, calling it reckless.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Wait just a minute here.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You had no power in deciding whether Biden was going
to run for reelection. You had no power the Democratic Party. Hell,
Biden didn't have control of the Democratic Party. Clearly, these
were not the puppeteers this. You were the puppet darling.
So was Biden in that moment. That's who made the decisions,
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not either one of you. She said in her book
that the stakes were simply too high. It should have
been more than a personal decision for Biden, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So you're not You're not going to buy the book, please,
I do want to do something when we come back.
I mentioned that I rewatched Bill Clinton on our Senio
Hall from thirty plus years ago, because just the difference
between talk showed late night talk shows today versus late
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night talk shows from from thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, And you mentioned Gavin Newsom was on steaton Colbert
and I love when we were talking about it off
the air, the juxtaposition of what those visits were and
what they've become.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
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Speaker 3 (06:35):
Let's go to Amarilla for vacation, right, not that?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, that's like number two to live off the land. Yes,
you know he's going to move.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Cattle with my sister up in North California.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We were talking earlier today about the latest with the
Jimmy Kimmel uproar, the fight over what hosts can say
what they can't say, Should the government have a say
in it?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Should they've allowed to put pressure on people?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And just the kind of the level of political discourse
when you look at the level of political discourse through
the lens of late night talk show host and late
night talk shows. A couple of months ago, played that
sound from Johnny Carson, if you remember he was talking
about the He was asked, I think it was on
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sixty Minutes why he never used politics in his.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Show.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
People say he'll never take a serious controversy.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Well, I have an answer to that. I said, no,
tell me the last time.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
That Jack Benny red Skelton, Benny comedian used his show to.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Do serious issues. That's not what I'm there for. Can't
they see that?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
But you and I do.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal with serious issues.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now, he makes an important point there, there's nothing wrong
with making fun of serious issues, except lately nobody laughs
at those. Nobody allows themselves to laugh at themselves anymore.
Kimmel got in trouble for what he said regarding the
death of Charlie Kirk. And it wasn't specifically about saying
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that Charlie Kirk deserved it, or making light of it
or anything. It was that he used He talked about
it in the context of making a joke about Donald Trump.
I mentioned also that Gavin Newsom was on Stephen Colbert
last night. He talked about the current administration.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
No oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of
America today. People asked, well, is authoritarianism? You're being hyperbolic.
We're being hyperbolic.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, So he drops a bs. He goes after Trump
and calls him an s open.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
By having a little bit fun but fights substantively. We
have forty one lawsuits against the son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, he also talks about my God, I don't like
this luck.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
He also talks about.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Fear that we will not have an election in twenty
twenty eight. I really mean that and the core of
my soul unless we wake up to the Code red,
what's happening in this country?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Okay, did you order the Code red?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Nobody ordered the Code red?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
This is the cut answer he did.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
This is to me, this is the kind of rhetoric
that adds to the fire. It doesn't do anything to
take away from it. If you're trying to lower the temperature.
If you're a Democrat and you believe that Trump's surratcheting
up the rhetoric led to something like Charlie Kirk's assassination,
which is what Jimmy Kimmel was suspended for, then you
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cannot go on Stephen Colbert and keep the temperature high
and claim that democracy is at risk. He just said
that he has a real fear that there will be
no presidential election in the year twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I think a lot of them believe that that they're
hold on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's what I'm saying. If that's the case. And if
you continue that line of if you continue down that path,
then you're gonna get some crazy pants who thinks to themselves,
I'm going to save democracy, Yes, by shooting insert name
of politics.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Somebody's got to be the adult in the room and
lower the temperature, not add several degrees to it. And
when you do that, when you're supposed to be coming
from the Party of Reason like the Democrats claim to be,
you can't.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
You can't fight apples with apples like that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know that we expect from Trump that we expect
from somebody else. Just be yourself. It's inauthentic for Gavin
Newsom to do that too.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Do you really do you believe he's that guy?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, and to go back to what we were saying
before about Trump calling Russia a paper tiger, using that
term specifically, that's what I think of when I see
Gavin Newsom getting all puffed up and excited in all
of his superhand gestures. It's like, you're not a tough guy.
You've never been a tough guy. You've never been a bully.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It's fine, and you are enough. You have to be
you're enough.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Tough.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Guys don't have to show how tough they are. But
in the context of talk show hosts having politicians on
their shows, it wasn't the first time, but one of
the more iconic times, at least in my lifetime, was
when Bill Clinton went on Arsenio Hall and you know,
played the saxophone and had kind of a It was
a lengthy conversation, but it wasn't full of bluster and bravado.
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And again Bill Clinton to take them or leave him.
If you like him as a politician or not, it
doesn't matter, but just listen to the tone, the difference
in the tone of the conversation.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Why are you not the same?
Speaker 7 (11:36):
I'm not the same because I'm talking about things in
this election that I've been working on for years that
I really care about. I was in South Central LA
three years before the riot occurred. I came out here
and all the politicians always go to Hollywood to meet
the movie stars and the entertainers, you know, to raise money.
And I gave a speech here three years ago, and
I asked to go to South Central LA and meet
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with people from UNO and SEOC, those community organizations because
I could see how terrible it was and how things
could get out of hand. I met with a dozen
sixth graders about my daughter's age who told me their
biggest fear in life was being shot going to and
front school.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay, listen, was at the height of the gang? Was
that ninety three ish? Ninety two ish? It would the
interview the interview, Yes, I think you're right now, so yeah,
that was the height of ninety gang violence. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah,
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You can hear it now and you look back on
it and you go, oh, it feels like he was
kind of pandering there, but at least he was doing
it in.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I don't want him to pander January.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's just genuine and calm and quiet, and he's not
calling anybody names he was.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He wasn't openly horing himself the way we see the
open horror.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He wasn't going after Bob dot Was it Bob Dole
in ninety two?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I don't know young to remember.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It was an easy tiger. I was in college, but
I don't remember. Was it George Bush's second term? It
was Bush running for reelection?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It was George Bush. Independent candidate Ross Perrot and then
Bob Dole was the second time Bob Dole was also
against Ross Paro.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, again, he wasn't going after George Bush. He wasn't
saying Ross pro's evil or was going to tear down
the democracy from its root.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You didn't say any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He was talking about serving the people, serving people, right,
That's it was all about serving people.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now, had all of our problems been solved here in
California where he is sitting governor and elsewhere across this
great land, maybe some personal attacks, maybe that's all that's left.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
On the bone. You give some Yeah, you'd give them
a little bit, but.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That bone is loaded with disease meat that needs to
be cured.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It does seem like they're leaning more towards reality TV
than actual politics. Yeah right, it's everything is sensation or
social media. It's so that they can get a replay
on TikTok and social which is Twitter and all us speaking.
Idiocracy becoming more and more of a documentary from.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The future for the future, like the past, like that,
very forward thinking. Oh my god, Gross, Hi, justin, Hi,
welcome to the show. Welcome, commit We'll come in and
we'll do parenting with justin here in just a moment.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:31):
Maybe we'll spend some time on it tomorrow. This h
one B visa entry fee that Trump has put in
place one hundred thousand dollars. You know, we're talking yesterday
about it, and the first wave of reaction was, wow,
this is a real blow to people who are born
in other countries believe they can come to the United
States if they're good enough at what they do. Well,
now there's one hundred thousand dollars price tag on that.
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So if you're poor and in another country i e. India,
and your dream was to come to the US, that
dream has kind of gone.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Well, that's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's a great feel good movie, right, or maybe not
a feel good movie, considering that maybe somebody won't be
able to come here. But now people that run smaller
tech companies in this country in the United States say
this is going to cripple us, that this one hundred
thousand dollars price tag is basically kneecapping startups that are
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scrounging for talent that they can bring here cheap to
work when there's no money to be had in a
startup until you make it, until you have.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Investors, hey cover that price tag. They cannot.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Federal authorities are now saying that a shooter with a
rifle open fire from a roof onto a US and
Immigration and Customs enforcement location in Dallas killed at least
two people, killed two detainees, and wounded a third before
the shooter then took his own life.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
It all happened very early this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
FBI said at a news conference that AMMO that was
found at the scene did contain some anti ice messaging.
One of the shell casings actually read anti ice. None
of the ICE agents that were on location were injured.
The detainee who survived is said to be in critical condition.
One of the descriptions of the scene was that they
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may have been sitting in a van when the shooting happened.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Justin Worsham is here, host of the Dad podcast.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
We talk parenting with Justin.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It is such delight every Wednesday that he is available.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Thank you to come on.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We've talked a lot about the combination between sports and
academics and some parents. I kind of feel like your
kids should not be distracted by sports because it can
take up a lot of time and that it would
impact their study, you know, bite into their study time.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But there's a pretty specific link in.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Why they are both helpful to each other.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, it's what I found interesting about this article was
that they're talking about the idea that sports becomes a
distraction and an extra thing that you have to do
because you have homework as a teenager, Like you have
all the school work, and you spend all this time
sitting in front of a screen and not really moving,
and then you go home and you do the exact
same thing at home to get all the work done.
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And this idea of being like overscheduled. But what if
the thing that is making you overscheduled is also the
thing that's helping you deal with the stress of dealing
with all of the homework. Like this was not something
I remember feeling or thinking in high school. But like
going to the gym was not a part of my upbringing.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I was.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I think I was in my late thirties early forties
before I even started, And now I love it, Like
you get you work out, I.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Throw some steel, buddy, I throw some steel bro Is
that a thing?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Is that what you say? I throw some steel.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, only when he's in the elementary school pickup line. Still, yeah,
those kids.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I gotta go back. I gotta put in some FaceTime.
There's new ladies there that don't know. They don't know
what's up.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
They didn't have the joy like cabs have.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Not three sixty five. I keep these things out. You
got to get them a sun's out, calves out. That's
why my guns aren't that impressive anyway, my boy. Yes,
My point is that I first hand now. I know
now that like how if I go to the gym,
or if I don't go to the gym, like you
get you feel it, like you feel more stressed, because.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They can feel overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I know that people say, oh, you need a distraction
like going to the gym or something to take away
your take your mind away from X, Y or Z.
But sometimes it can feel overwhelming. I can understand if
you're a kid with a full workload of classes and
homework and then you've got practice for four hours a
day or twice a week.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Sure, I'm not going to the gym for four hours.
Feel I'm doing maybe thirty to forty minutes. And I think,
like a lot of adults, like you could go there
for ten twenty minutes and still have some benefit, like
you walk away feeling accomplished or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I've always thought, at least the time element of it.
I've always thought of it like money, where you learn
to you learn to have money when you don't have it,
Like if you're forced to budget, that's when you learn
how to use money. And if you're forced to budget
your time, that's when you learn how to use it best,
Like in college, because your classes are scattered about throughout
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the day, the different schedule each day, you have to
come up with a plan specifically how you're going to
do the work that is required of you. And you know,
I guess later in high school you get that, especially
if you're involved with sports. But when there is a
time crunch or a budget crunch, that's when you learn
to use those things.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, and they said that there's multiple research that shows
pe classes, gym or training sessions don't just work muscles,
they reset emotional equilibrium.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I mean, there's the physiological benefit to it as well,
which I think that so many kids get. I mean,
we've taken it away from them by shoving a phone
in their friend and ride bikes and run around the
town with their friends an electric bike.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yes, piece, why did.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You bring that up? I didn't, I believe, and I'm
gonna have to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Did go around the corner with it? I guess, and
you found our day? I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, you didn't actually point it out, but you're like,
I bet you there's something over there if you look
around that, if.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You looked underneath that curtain. But what's going on over there?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
There's a kid not using his cow.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I think of you every morning now because when I
drop my younger son off at high school, there is
a young kid who rides with a dirt bike like
helmet and a like scooter that he sits on that's electric,
and he crosses the street at the ex.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
He doesn't even stand on that scooter. No, he's sitting like.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
A lazy boy. Yeah, you're why don't we.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Just let them lay in the middle of the street.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, maybe next time I'll take a picture just that way.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yes, she used it for evil? Yeah, you're right, never mind,
bad idea awful?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, another parenting trend that's popular among gen z.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
When we come back, are you okay? I'm fine? Okay,
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
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Speaker 5 (21:02):
Still a lot of common the humongous twelve o'clock hour.
What you watch Wednesday, of course comes up at the
bottom of the hour, so you can always let us
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you've been catching up on? Justin Warsham Oh did you
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want to do that?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Do I do it?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Now?
Speaker 8 (21:26):
To go for it?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You hear the music, don't you?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yepra fiophobia is an abnormal fear of this. It was
not an option in the movie Apollo thirteen. Cora fiophobia
is an abnormal fear of this. It was not an
option in the movie Apollo thirteen.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Remember with Tom Hanks. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, not
Apollo eleven.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I think you remember this for the historical thing, not
the movie. Just to be clear back.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
There did really happen. I know it wasn't just a movie.
I get nervous every time I see that movie. The
answer is like, I don't know what's gonna happen. What
is quitting similar, You're gonna be so mad at yourself?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
What is giving up?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, it gonna be so mad at yourself. You're gonna
be more pissed off at this on the electric bike?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Oh no, what is Lieutenant Dan nailed it? What is
you want me to tell you? Yeah? What is failure?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Remember, failure is not an option.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It was not an option. That's why I didn't think
of it.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
He only remembers the actual historical facts, not the dialogue
from the movie.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Maybe knew this parenting trend that's become popular now.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, So I brought this in because I'm just so annoyed.
I brought this in because as I was looking for topics,
this no exaggeration came up at least fourteen times this
same exact article in some variation through tons of different media,
I don't know whatever, And it kept talking about cycle
breaking is like and trauma like, and I just.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I'm starting to feel like people are throwing the word
trauma around a little bit much. Yeah, and so the
idea of cycle breaking parenting is that you are breaking
the trauma cycle of what your parents did to you.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
We're not going to do that anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
And I've had it thrown my way in with parents
and talking, but it's mostly like in joking sense, and
it just one of the things that came out of
this though that blew my mind the most is and
this is how this was written in the article that
I found. The good news is that almost half of parents,
forty seven percent, are trusting their own intuition when it
comes to parenting advice and guidance. Well, what's the other
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fifty three doing?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
What?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I guess just reading parenting.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Books or TikTok? Like, I know why in this.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Stage of people asking for opinions, whether it's googling it
or AI or what have you all the time instead
of just trusting what you know right and.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Trusting the fact that humans have been doing this whole
thing for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, So what is it?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Does it speak to the desire to do it perfectly
that maybe we shouldn't be attacking people for that because
it's really coming from a sense of insecurity or is
it coming from just a sense of ignorance of just
an inability to make choices and to and to just
have your life.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I can't. I can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I think it comes from instant gratification of I've got
a problem. I need a solution now, and the phones
give us instant gratification. I'm hungry. I need a solution
now or order delivery. You know, right, I've got this
parenting problem. I need a solution now, rather than as
opposed to sitting with yourself quietly and doing the more
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time intensive.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Of Okay, how do I deal with this? How do
I deal with this with my kid? Right now? What
do I think?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, we're even just asking friends and family about it. Yes,
I mean that's the kind of thing that I and
let's hope.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
That's what is to chat GPT. Yes, I know that,
but that's the obvious one.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But I think back to and any life period or
any period in your parenting career.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We had a daughter.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
She did not sleep, she did not want to sleep,
she hated sleep. We hated her for it was and
my wife got a book. I want to say it
was like this, The Sleeplessper, the Baby Whisper.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And it was awful.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
She my wife even talked to the author of the
book on the phone and was asking questions like listen,
I know you got all the answers, but my baby
is still broken, Like and we now I look back
on it, and I think we were just being impatient.
I mean, and granted, that's a hard time to be impatient.
It's a hard time to find patience, but still it
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was one of those things that's like, well, if we
probably asked friends or family or something like that, there,
somebody would have called mom, somebody would have had an
answer that maybe we didn't like, which might have just
been you, guys got to be just get away.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's gonna suck for the first fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
And then when you get your kids are teenagers or whatever,
and they deal with whatever they deal with, maybe ask
somebody who's been through it before. Not guaranteed that they're
going to have the same kind of perspective that you do,
but at least it's it's something for you to bounce
those ideas off of.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think sometimes people think, what the internet has, this
whole wealth of knowledge from all of these people and
all things.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
When you're right, we were village people.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We've lasted this long just asking people in the village,
how do you do this, my baby won't sleep.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
There were no books, there was no Internet, there was
no Google, there was no chat, GPT.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
None of it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
It's entirely anecdotal, but there's a lot of people that
don't listen to their parents like they because of the
cycle breaking, everything that was done before was wrong. Other
interesting things that came out of this for me was
that gen Z, being the first generation raised with gentle
parenting in mind, only thirty two percent of them employ it.
This is also interesting me. Gen Z parents prioritize preparing
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their child for the real world fifty four percent, just
over half of the people.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
And ex crasy people I want to take those parents
are the real wom in the face because you know what,
like the real world has to deal with their kids
who are will freak out over any.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Sort of push.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Sixty two percent of millennial parents focus on supporting their
children's mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But in the real world, these are very American things.
I think these are very American friends, because I don't
think other countries other cultures have have changed as much
when it comes to the way they parent as we have.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Scary, I mean in China, you know, I can't even
finish that sentence.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Became everybody's uncle at Thanksgiving. She just said, you know, China, China.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You know what they make their kids?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Do you know they make their kids?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I'll stop drinking when I'm done being thirsty.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Okay, do what they do in China. Do what they
do that.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I can't wait. You're coming over for Thanksgiving this year?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You are one coming over for Thanksgiving. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Dude, China.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Don't you get me started that way to her, Yes,
she used.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It for evil. Yeah, you're right, nevermind, bad idea.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Awful all right, another parenting trend that's popular among gen z.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
When we come back, are you okay, I'm fine?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Okay, the chase is over this big rig bob tailing guy.
It's done, and it looks like they have taken two
people out of the cab of that big rig. Again,
this was where a chase where the bear Cat was involved,
the big armored carrier. It's got a bunch of people
inside of it. Once they stopped. It looks like at
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where I write it down, Franklin and.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well you look at that.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
The line I think of the coverage from professional journalist
Shannon farn was, was that a way moo?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well, it looks like no, he was reaching into another
car that had something on its roots.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
From our perspective watching the news coverage and listening in
the other room, it sounded like you thought the bear
Cat was a big way.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, I was shocked when I saw that Perrywinkle colored
Ford Explorer pull up is the word you Userillian and
box that that thing in and the officer gets out
because it looked like a civilian vehicle and all of
a sudden, an officer gets out.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
And you could see his arms from the eye in
the sky.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Think it does. I think it is. Maybe you just
you could be honest about your feelings. Yeah, there it is.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But let me just say, since we're talking about arms,
bless their hearts for calling that a potential kidnapping, because
I've never seen a kidnapping suspect with two sleeves at
standing at six three.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
You know, I don't think those were You thought those
were tattoos.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think, oh, I know, I think those I think
that was a long sleeve shirt underneath it's.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Ninety degrees and human. Yeah, those were sleeve tattoos.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Forty bucks. It says there was are tattoos.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Automatic.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I can't big riggs are all automatics? Is what that
guy really new?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Ones?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
That makes me sad about this country? Not that makes
me very Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
My friend, I've never respected a friend so much. My
friend bought a truck because it was stick shift so
he could teach his sons how to drive a stick shift,
and then immediately sold it.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yeah, there's something wrong with that, But I don't think.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
There is just hard to sell a truck after you
drop the transmission.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Weekend, it's time for swamp Watch.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipop.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We got from yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The other side never candle, Yes, yeah, I'm not going.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
I forgot about watch.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I can imagine what can Well, it's kind of comedy,
so you're in the right place.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Just stupid.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
A political blunder is when a politician actually tells the
truth whether people voted for you.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Last Okay, a political blunder is what this book tour
is seven days. If you thought Kamala Harris's run up
to try to be president was comical, hold that beer,
because the book tour is a disaster. It is an
absolute disaster. She went on one of the shows and
(03:27):
said that running for president is harder than being president.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Okay, okay, Well, I don't know what the expectation is
from her. I listen she said. She literally said she
didn't choose Pete Boudagege as a running mate, despite the
fact that he would have been her first choice because
he was gay. That's why she said she didn't choose him.
Because she said she was afraid that America wouldn't be
(03:58):
ready for a black woman and a woman, a black woman,
a black woman married to a Jewish guy, picking a
gay vice presidential running mate.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I get in trouble for going after Kamala Harris, and
I have and yesterday I used the word embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Her run was embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, guess what for all the people that get mad
at me every time I talk about Kamala Harris. You
know what, all Democrats, not all Democrats, but a lot
of prominent Democrats are calling this embarrassing.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
That was the word in the headlines this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Because she's laying out everyone.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
She's not talking about whether her candidacy was a good
candidacy and whether she was the right person to step
in once Joe Biden was going to step down and
she didn't talk. It was it was a completely upon
the party to say, if we don't have our number
one guy in Biden, we need to pick a new
number one person. And they didn't do that. I mean
(04:55):
they as a group didn't do that. There was a
couple of power players that got to make this choice
and say we're going to make history by pushing Kamala
Harris into this position whether or not she's a good
candidate and whether or not she's capable of winning.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
In an interview with ABC's Good Morning America, she said
she regretted not confronting Biden over his decision to run
for reelection, calling it reckless.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Wait just a minute here.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You had no power in deciding whether Biden was going
to run for reelection. You had no power the Democratic Party. Hell,
Biden didn't have control of the Democratic Party. Clearly, these
were not the puppeteers this. You were the puppet darling.
So was Biden in that moment. That's who made the decisions,
(05:41):
not either one of you. She said in her book
that the stakes were simply too high. It should have
been more than a personal decision for Biden, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So you're not You're not going to buy the book, please,
I do want to do something when we come back.
I mentioned that I rewatched Bill Clinton on our Senio
Hall from thirty plus years ago, because just the difference
between talk showed late night talk shows today versus late
(06:15):
night talk shows from from thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, And you mentioned Gavin Newsom was on steaton Colbert
and I love when we were talking about it off
the air, the juxtaposition of what those visits were and
what they've become.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
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Speaker 3 (06:35):
Let's go to Amarilla for vacation, right, not that?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, that's like number two to live off the land. Yes,
you know he's going to move.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Cattle with my sister up in North California.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We were talking earlier today about the latest with the
Jimmy Kimmel uproar, the fight over what hosts can say
what they can't say, Should the government have a say
in it?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Should they've allowed to put pressure on people?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And just the kind of the level of political discourse
when you look at the level of political discourse through
the lens of late night talk show host and late
night talk shows. A couple of months ago, played that
sound from Johnny Carson, if you remember he was talking
about the He was asked, I think it was on
(07:24):
sixty Minutes why he never used politics in his.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Show.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
People say he'll never take a serious controversy.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Well, I have an answer to that. I said, no,
tell me the last time.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
That Jack Benny red Skelton, Benny comedian used his show to.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Do serious issues. That's not what I'm there for. Can't
they see that?
Speaker 8 (07:52):
But you and I do.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
They think that just because you have it tonight's show,
that you must deal with serious issues.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Now, he makes an important point there, there's nothing wrong
with making fun of serious issues, except lately nobody laughs
at those. Nobody allows themselves to laugh at themselves anymore.
Kimmel got in trouble for what he said regarding the
death of Charlie Kirk. And it wasn't specifically about saying
(08:18):
that Charlie Kirk deserved it, or making light of it
or anything. It was that he used He talked about
it in the context of making a joke about Donald Trump.
I mentioned also that Gavin Newsom was on Stephen Colbert
last night. He talked about the current administration.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
No oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of
America today. People asked, well, is authoritarianism? You're being hyperbolic.
We're being hyperbolic.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Okay, So he drops a bs. He goes after Trump
and calls him an s open.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
By having a little bit fun but fights substantively. We
have forty one lawsuits against the son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, he also talks about my God, I don't like
this luck.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
He also talks about.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Fear that we will not have an election in twenty
twenty eight. I really mean that and the core of
my soul unless we wake up to the Code red,
what's happening in this country?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Okay, did you order the Code red?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Nobody ordered the Code red?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
This is the cut answer he did.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
This is to me, this is the kind of rhetoric
that adds to the fire. It doesn't do anything to
take away from it. If you're trying to lower the temperature.
If you're a Democrat and you believe that Trump's surratcheting
up the rhetoric led to something like Charlie Kirk's assassination,
which is what Jimmy Kimmel was suspended for, then you
(09:37):
cannot go on Stephen Colbert and keep the temperature high
and claim that democracy is at risk. He just said
that he has a real fear that there will be
no presidential election in the year twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I think a lot of them believe that that they're
hold on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's what I'm saying. If that's the case. And if
you continue that line of if you continue down that path,
then you're gonna get some crazy pants who thinks to themselves,
I'm going to save democracy, Yes, by shooting insert name
of politics.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Somebody's got to be the adult in the room and
lower the temperature, not add several degrees to it. And
when you do that, when you're supposed to be coming
from the Party of Reason like the Democrats claim to be,
you can't.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
You can't fight apples with apples like that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know that we expect from Trump that we expect
from somebody else. Just be yourself. It's inauthentic for Gavin
Newsom to do that too.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Do you really do you believe he's that guy?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, and to go back to what we were saying
before about Trump calling Russia a paper tiger, using that
term specifically, that's what I think of when I see
Gavin Newsom getting all puffed up and excited in all
of his superhand gestures. It's like, you're not a tough guy.
You've never been a tough guy. You've never been a bully.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
It's fine, and you are enough. You have to be
you're enough.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Tough.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Guys don't have to show how tough they are. But
in the context of talk show hosts having politicians on
their shows, it wasn't the first time, but one of
the more iconic times, at least in my lifetime, was
when Bill Clinton went on Arsenio Hall and you know,
played the saxophone and had kind of a It was
a lengthy conversation, but it wasn't full of bluster and bravado.
(11:24):
And again Bill Clinton to take them or leave him.
If you like him as a politician or not, it
doesn't matter, but just listen to the tone, the difference
in the tone of the conversation.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Why are you not the same?
Speaker 7 (11:36):
I'm not the same because I'm talking about things in
this election that I've been working on for years that
I really care about. I was in South Central LA
three years before the riot occurred. I came out here
and all the politicians always go to Hollywood to meet
the movie stars and the entertainers, you know, to raise money.
And I gave a speech here three years ago, and
I asked to go to South Central LA and meet
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with people from UNO and SEOC, those community organizations because
I could see how terrible it was and how things
could get out of hand. I met with a dozen
sixth graders about my daughter's age who told me their
biggest fear in life was being shot going to and
front school.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Okay, listen, was at the height of the gang? Was
that ninety three ish? Ninety two ish? It would the
interview the interview, Yes, I think you're right now, so yeah,
that was the height of ninety gang violence. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah,
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You can hear it now and you look back on
it and you go, oh, it feels like he was
kind of pandering there, but at least he was doing
it in.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I don't want him to pander January.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's just genuine and calm and quiet, and he's not
calling anybody names he was.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He wasn't openly horing himself the way we see the
open horror.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He wasn't going after Bob dot Was it Bob Dole
in ninety two?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I don't know young to remember.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It was an easy tiger. I was in college, but
I don't remember. Was it George Bush's second term? It
was Bush running for reelection?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It was George Bush. Independent candidate Ross Perrot and then
Bob Dole was the second time Bob Dole was also
against Ross Paro.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, again, he wasn't going after George Bush. He wasn't
saying Ross pro's evil or was going to tear down
the democracy from its root.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You didn't say any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He was talking about serving the people, serving people, right,
That's it was all about serving people.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now, had all of our problems been solved here in
California where he is sitting governor and elsewhere across this
great land, maybe some personal attacks, maybe that's all that's left.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
On the bone. You give some Yeah, you'd give them
a little bit, but.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That bone is loaded with disease meat that needs to
be cured.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It does seem like they're leaning more towards reality TV
than actual politics. Yeah right, it's everything is sensation or
social media. It's so that they can get a replay
on TikTok and social which is Twitter and all us speaking.
Idiocracy becoming more and more of a documentary from.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The future for the future, like the past, like that,
very forward thinking. Oh my god, Gross, Hi, justin, Hi,
welcome to the show. Welcome, commit We'll come in and
we'll do parenting with justin here in just a moment.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:31):
Maybe we'll spend some time on it tomorrow. This h
one B visa entry fee that Trump has put in
place one hundred thousand dollars. You know, we're talking yesterday
about it, and the first wave of reaction was, wow,
this is a real blow to people who are born
in other countries believe they can come to the United
States if they're good enough at what they do. Well,
now there's one hundred thousand dollars price tag on that.
(14:54):
So if you're poor and in another country i e. India,
and your dream was to come to the US, that
dream has kind of gone.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Well, that's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That's a great feel good movie, right, or maybe not
a feel good movie, considering that maybe somebody won't be
able to come here. But now people that run smaller
tech companies in this country in the United States say
this is going to cripple us, that this one hundred
thousand dollars price tag is basically kneecapping startups that are
(15:23):
scrounging for talent that they can bring here cheap to
work when there's no money to be had in a
startup until you make it, until you have.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Investors, hey cover that price tag. They cannot.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Federal authorities are now saying that a shooter with a
rifle open fire from a roof onto a US and
Immigration and Customs enforcement location in Dallas killed at least
two people, killed two detainees, and wounded a third before
the shooter then took his own life.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
It all happened very early this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
FBI said at a news conference that AMMO that was
found at the scene did contain some anti ice messaging.
One of the shell casings actually read anti ice. None
of the ICE agents that were on location were injured.
The detainee who survived is said to be in critical condition.
One of the descriptions of the scene was that they
(16:14):
may have been sitting in a van when the shooting happened.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Justin Worsham is here, host of the Dad podcast.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
We talk parenting with Justin.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
It is such delight every Wednesday that he is available.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Thank you to come on.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We've talked a lot about the combination between sports and
academics and some parents. I kind of feel like your
kids should not be distracted by sports because it can
take up a lot of time and that it would
impact their study, you know, bite into their study time.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
But there's a pretty specific link in.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Why they are both helpful to each other.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, it's what I found interesting about this article was
that they're talking about the idea that sports becomes a
distraction and an extra thing that you have to do
because you have homework as a teenager, Like you have
all the school work, and you spend all this time
sitting in front of a screen and not really moving,
and then you go home and you do the exact
same thing at home to get all the work done.
(17:18):
And this idea of being like overscheduled. But what if
the thing that is making you overscheduled is also the
thing that's helping you deal with the stress of dealing
with all of the homework. Like this was not something
I remember feeling or thinking in high school. But like
going to the gym was not a part of my upbringing.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I was.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I think I was in my late thirties early forties
before I even started, And now I love it, Like
you get you work out, I.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Throw some steel, buddy, I throw some steel bro Is
that a thing?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Is that what you say? I throw some steel.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, only when he's in the elementary school pickup line. Still, yeah,
those kids.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I gotta go back. I gotta put in some FaceTime.
There's new ladies there that don't know. They don't know
what's up.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
They didn't have the joy like cabs have.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Not three sixty five. I keep these things out. You
got to get them a sun's out, calves out. That's
why my guns aren't that impressive anyway, my boy. Yes,
My point is that I first hand now. I know
now that like how if I go to the gym,
or if I don't go to the gym, like you
get you feel it, like you feel more stressed, because.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They can feel overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I know that people say, oh, you need a distraction
like going to the gym or something to take away
your take your mind away from X, Y or Z.
But sometimes it can feel overwhelming. I can understand if
you're a kid with a full workload of classes and
homework and then you've got practice for four hours a
day or twice a week.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Sure, I'm not going to the gym for four hours.
Feel I'm doing maybe thirty to forty minutes. And I think,
like a lot of adults, like you could go there
for ten twenty minutes and still have some benefit, like
you walk away feeling accomplished or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I've always thought, at least the time element of it.
I've always thought of it like money, where you learn
to you learn to have money when you don't have it,
Like if you're forced to budget, that's when you learn
how to use money. And if you're forced to budget
your time, that's when you learn how to use it best,
Like in college, because your classes are scattered about throughout
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the day, the different schedule each day, you have to
come up with a plan specifically how you're going to
do the work that is required of you. And you know,
I guess later in high school you get that, especially
if you're involved with sports. But when there is a
time crunch or a budget crunch, that's when you learn
to use those things.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, and they said that there's multiple research that shows
pe classes, gym or training sessions don't just work muscles,
they reset emotional equilibrium.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I mean, there's the physiological benefit to it as well,
which I think that so many kids get. I mean,
we've taken it away from them by shoving a phone
in their friend and ride bikes and run around the
town with their friends an electric bike.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yes, piece, why did.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You bring that up? I didn't, I believe, and I'm
gonna have to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Did go around the corner with it? I guess, and
you found our day? I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, you didn't actually point it out, but you're like,
I bet you there's something over there if you look
around that, if.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You looked underneath that curtain. But what's going on over there?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
There's a kid not using his cow.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I think of you every morning now because when I
drop my younger son off at high school, there is
a young kid who rides with a dirt bike like
helmet and a like scooter that he sits on that's electric,
and he crosses the street at the ex.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
He doesn't even stand on that scooter. No, he's sitting like.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
A lazy boy. Yeah, you're why don't we.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Just let them lay in the middle of the street.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, maybe next time I'll take a picture just that way.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yes, she used it for evil? Yeah, you're right, never mind,
bad idea awful?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, another parenting trend that's popular among gen z.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
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Speaker 5 (21:02):
Still a lot of common the humongous twelve o'clock hour.
What you watch Wednesday, of course comes up at the
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want to do that?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Do I do it?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Now?
Speaker 8 (21:26):
To go for it?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You hear the music, don't you?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yepra fiophobia is an abnormal fear of this. It was
not an option in the movie Apollo thirteen. Cora fiophobia
is an abnormal fear of this. It was not an
option in the movie Apollo thirteen.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Remember with Tom Hanks. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, not
Apollo eleven.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I think you remember this for the historical thing, not
the movie. Just to be clear back.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
There did really happen. I know it wasn't just a movie.
I get nervous every time I see that movie. The
answer is like, I don't know what's gonna happen. What
is quitting similar, You're gonna be so mad at yourself?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
What is giving up?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, it gonna be so mad at yourself. You're gonna
be more pissed off at this on the electric bike?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Oh no, what is Lieutenant Dan nailed it? What is
you want me to tell you? Yeah? What is failure?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Remember, failure is not an option.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It was not an option. That's why I didn't think
of it.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
He only remembers the actual historical facts, not the dialogue
from the movie.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Maybe knew this parenting trend that's become popular now.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, So I brought this in because I'm just so annoyed.
I brought this in because as I was looking for topics,
this no exaggeration came up at least fourteen times this
same exact article in some variation through tons of different media,
I don't know whatever, And it kept talking about cycle
breaking is like and trauma like, and I just.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I'm starting to feel like people are throwing the word
trauma around a little bit much. Yeah, and so the
idea of cycle breaking parenting is that you are breaking
the trauma cycle of what your parents did to you.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
We're not going to do that anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
And I've had it thrown my way in with parents
and talking, but it's mostly like in joking sense, and
it just one of the things that came out of
this though that blew my mind the most is and
this is how this was written in the article that
I found. The good news is that almost half of parents,
forty seven percent, are trusting their own intuition when it
comes to parenting advice and guidance. Well, what's the other
(23:25):
fifty three doing?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
What?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I guess just reading parenting.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Books or TikTok? Like, I know why in this.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Stage of people asking for opinions, whether it's googling it
or AI or what have you all the time instead
of just trusting what you know right and.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Trusting the fact that humans have been doing this whole
thing for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, So what is it?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Does it speak to the desire to do it perfectly
that maybe we shouldn't be attacking people for that because
it's really coming from a sense of insecurity or is
it coming from just a sense of ignorance of just
an inability to make choices and to and to just
have your life.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I can't. I can't put my finger on it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I think it comes from instant gratification of I've got
a problem. I need a solution now, and the phones
give us instant gratification. I'm hungry. I need a solution
now or order delivery. You know, right, I've got this
parenting problem. I need a solution now, rather than as
opposed to sitting with yourself quietly and doing the more
(24:35):
time intensive.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Of Okay, how do I deal with this? How do
I deal with this with my kid? Right now? What
do I think?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, we're even just asking friends and family about it. Yes,
I mean that's the kind of thing that I and
let's hope.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
That's what is to chat GPT. Yes, I know that,
but that's the obvious one.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But I think back to and any life period or
any period in your parenting career.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We had a daughter.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
She did not sleep, she did not want to sleep,
she hated sleep. We hated her for it was and
my wife got a book. I want to say it
was like this, The Sleeplessper, the Baby Whisper.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And it was awful.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
She my wife even talked to the author of the
book on the phone and was asking questions like listen,
I know you got all the answers, but my baby
is still broken, Like and we now I look back
on it, and I think we were just being impatient.
I mean, and granted, that's a hard time to be impatient.
It's a hard time to find patience, but still it
(25:34):
was one of those things that's like, well, if we
probably asked friends or family or something like that, there,
somebody would have called mom, somebody would have had an
answer that maybe we didn't like, which might have just
been you, guys got to be just get away.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's gonna suck for the first fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
And then when you get your kids are teenagers or whatever,
and they deal with whatever they deal with, maybe ask
somebody who's been through it before. Not guaranteed that they're
going to have the same kind of perspective that you do,
but at least it's it's something for you to bounce
those ideas off of.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think sometimes people think, what the internet has, this
whole wealth of knowledge from all of these people and
all things.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
When you're right, we were village people.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We've lasted this long just asking people in the village,
how do you do this, my baby won't sleep.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
There were no books, there was no Internet, there was
no Google, there was no chat, GPT.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
None of it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
It's entirely anecdotal, but there's a lot of people that
don't listen to their parents like they because of the
cycle breaking, everything that was done before was wrong. Other
interesting things that came out of this for me was
that gen Z, being the first generation raised with gentle
parenting in mind, only thirty two percent of them employ it.
This is also interesting me. Gen Z parents prioritize preparing
(26:47):
their child for the real world fifty four percent, just
over half of the people.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
And ex crasy people I want to take those parents
are the real wom in the face because you know what,
like the real world has to deal with their kids
who are will freak out over any.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Sort of push.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Sixty two percent of millennial parents focus on supporting their
children's mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But in the real world, these are very American things.
I think these are very American friends, because I don't
think other countries other cultures have have changed as much
when it comes to the way they parent as we have.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Scary, I mean in China, you know, I can't even
finish that sentence.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Became everybody's uncle at Thanksgiving. She just said, you know, China, China.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You know what they make their kids?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Do you know they make their kids?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I'll stop drinking when I'm done being thirsty.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Okay, do what they do in China. Do what they
do that.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I can't wait. You're coming over for Thanksgiving this year?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You are one coming over for Thanksgiving. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Dude, China.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Don't you get me started that way to her, Yes,
she used.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It for evil. Yeah, you're right, nevermind, bad idea.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Awful all right, another parenting trend that's popular among gen z.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
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