October 15, 2025 • 26 mins
Gary and Shannon dive into former Rep. Katie Porter’s “apology tour.” Shannon questions Porter’s so-called anger management progress while Gary wonders if her temperament will sink her 2026 campaign for California Governor.Later, KFI’s entertainment reporter Heather Brooker joins to break down L.A.’s 13% drop in film production and the rise of vertical video content in Hollywood. Then, Gary and Shannon tackle the growing concern that over half of all online articles are now written by AI, fueling fears of the “Dead Internet Theory.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, the hits just keep on coming, don't they. Katie
Porter gave us this beautiful day.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
You're out of my shots.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
She tried to quit an interview just last week.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I don't want to keep doing this. I'm gonna call it.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You're not gonna do the interview with them?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Asked, rumors and rumblings of her being an absolute nightmare person.
She was asked about those videos and are we going
to see little drips and drabs of other Katie Porter
videos coming out?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Should California voters feel confident that they're there aren't any
more Katie Porter videos out there?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, what I know is that I could have done
better in those moments. I'm going to be focused on
earning their votes and earning their trust. That's true in
every election I've only ever had tough elections, so I'm
absolutely aware that I'm going to have to continue to
show them. I'm going to have to answer every question.
I'm glad I got to continue that interview and finish
that interview and answer all her questions. And that's what
I'm going to continue to do to show Californians not
(01:26):
only that I understand their problems, but that I have
the will and the strength of character to actually get
something done about.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Though, but not just the CBS interview, the interview with
the staffer. Can voters be confident that there won't be
another one of those videos that's going to come to light.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
What I do know is that I could have done
better in that situation. That's not a note.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, I like that she's spinning this as strength of character.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Did you catch that?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, turn of phrase. You sure that I have the
strength of character? That I am an a hole is
basically what she's saying. Well in underlining it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
We talked about this last week.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I told you we did get some reaction, which was
we need someone like that to be.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
To be our governor.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know, it's about time that there are strong personalities
in the democratic party. You know, you know, I have
heard and I don't know if this is my bias
against people with attitudes like that. Those are the same
people who are backing up Katie Porter and saying, oh,
she just had a bad day, The same people that
(02:32):
would treat others the way she has been treating her
people are the same people that are.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Trying to make excuses here. Just whoever, I mean, just
whoever in your life you that you hear?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know, we all know people who fly off the
handle for no reason, who.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Who are rude to servers for example.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I mean we've talked about that being one of the
and that's that quality of human is awful. That is
an absolute, you know, trash person. And they are the
ones who are defending Katie Porter. That's what I have seen.
I'm sure there are other people.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Who are somebody who I have like the contrarian reaction
to that, because I'm somebody who flies off the handle,
but I have the reverse reaction of I like to
crucify people who show traits similar to mine.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, so, like I seen her do that, and I'm like,
oh my god, this is the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
How can you elect somebody who treats people like that.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Although I wouldn't fly up the handle to like like she's.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Flying off the handle to her stats.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's what I'm saying. I have never That's a huge difference.
I've seen you to.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Handle up up up the stairs.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I've seen you, Yes, you punch up, I've seen you.
I've seen you punch up. But I've never seen you
treat someone poorly like this. I mean someone that definitely
did not deserve that kind of treatment. And those are
the kinds of people that I see, and here defending her.
It's an ugly quality.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It is ugly because she's not talking about Trump, you
know what I mean. If you want someone who to
fight Trump, fight the machine that will be Trump even
after Trump is gone, that's one thing. But she's not
saving that for him. She's doing that to people.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Who work for her.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. So I think I've talked to
some Democrats about this. What do you think about this?
You know, is this going to ruin it for you?
Because I'm honestly curious, and it's that, well, who else
are we going to vote for a type of thing.
It's the Antonio Viragosa is just kind of a I mean,
he's likable, but he's kind of a clown and he's
(04:38):
he's what seventy something now, right, Yeah, he's not serious.
He seems like an unseerious candidate, like he doesn't want it.
Why would he want it that much? He's just kind
of bored. I get that kind of vibe that he's
just kind of bored, Like what's next? Maybe I'll do that?
All right, it's there.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Betty Ye, she's called on Katie Porter's step down, says
this could hurt democrats long run. She seems serious, but
nobody knows who she is. If I'm a Democrat, I
love her. She's qualified, she's got her head on straight,
but she's got no name recognition.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You got what Javier Bisera.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Right in a similar situation where there may be some
name recognition, but is he enough no money? Has he
been public enough for you to actually now support him?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So it's kind of like this is the bulldog you're
set with, and now you're getting too late for anybody
else to come up and gobble up whatever money is left.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's kind of too late. When's the election next spring?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
The primary will be June, I guess June. Okay, so
I don't know what you do.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They might just be stuck with They might run her
despite all of this, because already it's kind of gone
by the wayside. I mean, we were up in arms
about this last week. We're like, this will never go away.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It's a good point, it is, kind of and part
of it is to your point, we're still months away,
even just from the primary.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We still have time.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Had this come out in March or April, maybe it's
different and it gains it, it gets a little bit
more tracks.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But last week it looked a lot differently. You know,
do we see Mark Sanchez back in the booth?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Katie Porter's governor. Mark Sanchez is doing Monday night football.
Who knows how people rebound?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Who knows there may be a sign of hope, maybe
some blue skies amongst the cloudiness when it comes to
when it comes to film and TV production here in El,
I love blue skies.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Isn't it great to have a nice day of rain
where you're like, oh, it's a season, we're in the seasons.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And then it's over and.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's blether skies and beautiful boat just with a little
hint of chill.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
It's about sixty two degrees.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I love it. I love Ala for this race. I
do love that you're wearing your rainbows jacket today. I
like my rainbow bright jacket. It's warm and bright.
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We're going to be giving away. They do in the building.
What are you giving away my heart?
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Your heart?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yes, I don't think that's yours to give away. Who's
this ta give away?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Your wife?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh, she has a chunk of it, rightly, probably a
good chunk, good portion of it. The other of the
four chambers. Probably.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You said something funny yesterday. Oh I did social media. Sorry,
he said something that was very funny about you having
a cold, black, dead heart.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I said, such on you said your computer's dead.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And black like my heart. Yeah, and I thought that's
very funny.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Thank you. Appreciate that game recognized game? Is that what
that was?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You have the game to begin with, to recognize the
game that I have. I appreciate LA film production went down.
But but but, and it's a big one. There may
be some signs of recovery and all of this. Heather
Brooker has joined us to talk about the world of entertainment.
In the world of entertainment, but specifically when it comes
to the business of entertainment here in LA.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
So you know, I love to get into the minutia
of the entertainment, like what are we doing?
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Why aren't we all working more? Where is showbiz?
Speaker 9 (08:59):
So we got the report yesterday from Film LA that
said that overall production is down just over thirteen percent
in Los Angeles. They only specifically focus on the Greater
Los Angeles area and they work with the county and
the city on filming permits. It's down mostly in reality TV.
There's not a lot of reality TV shows filming here,
(09:21):
and dramas are down slightly. However, there is some good news,
you know. This summer they pass the big you know,
we've talked about this for a long time, the Big
Film and TV tax Credit, and out of that, twenty
two productions applied for and received like almost right away
the tax credit. So those productions, eighteen of them, which
(09:43):
are all television shows, are going to be filming here
in Los Angeles. We're not seeing any bump in production
from that yet, because those productions have one hundred and
eighty days from the time they receive the incentive to
apply and start production in LA. So what we seeing
is this sort of lull before things pick back up again,
(10:04):
because it's not just going to be these eighteen productions
in LA. They're fully expecting by spring even more because
in the coming week, and this is a little scoop
you guys, scoop here on the Gary and Channa Show.
Scoop music, Let's do it, the California Film Commission is
expected to announce in the next week or so that
(10:25):
they're bringing back even more feature films to Los Angeles
specifically and in California.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And what does that do to Damn?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I apologize? He gets carried away sometimes, guys.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
I'm trying to be serious. I have serious news, I
have things highlighted. And this is like.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
This is newsether.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
No, this is good.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
This means that when we pick up again, like after
the holidays, there's always a lull in the fall because
of the holiday breaks and all of that, there's gonna
be even more productions coming.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Back to LA.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
And that's due to just the film and TV tax credit.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's enough for them to come back.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yes, because we're going to be bringing back and this
is sort of like a preview, I've guest of the
announcement they're going to announce they're bringing back more feature films.
Right now, we're seeing this bump in television. They're saying
they're luring back more feature films to come and film
back here in LA which is longer work schedule, you know,
because television shows are you know, weeks at a time,
(11:28):
and you know, but now it's going to be like
months at a time for movies.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I have a question about movie production, and oh should
I wait for it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, it's just we've never in ten years, I don't
think we've ever worked out hand signals.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No one like this that was like this one, and
I don't know what that's Can we carry her over?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's what that meant? I know what you met or
was it like a wrap this night? I didn't know
what the clock said.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Had I known what the clock said, I wouldn't have
even need to see your hand signal to know what
you were thinking.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yes, but we can.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Can we come back?
Speaker 8 (12:03):
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Speaker 3 (12:09):
The US passport has fallen out of the top ten
most powerful passports globally.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
For the first time in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
This is according to the latest edition of the Henley
Passport Index, which ranks nations based on the number of
destinations a traveler can visit without needing a visa. The
US ranking has fallen again. We're now twelfth on the list,
tied with Malaysia. A decade ago, the US passport was
at the top of the index. Right now, one, two
(12:38):
and three in terms of most powerful passports, Singapore, South.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Korea and Japan. Interesting top three most powerful.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I want to go to Singapore badly. I heard it's
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Mariners will host the Blue Jays in Game three of
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Speaker 5 (13:06):
Five o'clock, first pitch there. Tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We are talking to kfi's entertainment reporter, Heather Brooker. She
doesn't just do entertainment, but sometimes she well it's her specialty.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
She does other things as well.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But we are talking to her about entertainment today and
I had a question for you. You were talking about
production coming back from back to LA and we'll see
it pick up in the spring, notably because of what
they've been able to do with incentives and bringing those back.
We've talked about actors losing out their jobs to AI,
the threat of that, the concern of it. We've talked
(13:39):
about directors as well in the same regard, but we
haven't really talked about it from a production standpoint. Are
there sets or cities or sound stages or what have
you that are going to lose out their money or
their population to AI. In terms of, you know, the
(14:00):
backdrops of movies and shows and things like that, how
much of that can be AI?
Speaker 9 (14:06):
I think a lot of it can be AI. So
there's a very small distinction between CGI technology and AI.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
I think AI can be.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
Used in CGI, but it's a little bit different technicality
the way that they're both produced and created. We are
going to, without a doubt, start seeing more AI technology
in every part of the film and television industry, from
the script writing process to the budgeting process, how movies
are using AI to put together a film budget, to
(14:39):
practical things like on the set, to special effects and
working in CGI. AI is not going anywhere. If anything,
it is going to be used even more in film
and television. I think when we were talking a few
weeks ago, I had read that there was something like
seventy percent of films being made right now or using
some form of AI.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Well, post production is probably one of those where you know,
colorization or evening out the look of an entire two
hour feature film or something like that, that's what all
looks the same.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
Like you know those the older actors that they're still using,
but they make them look youthful and like can smooth
out their skin.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And lighting them through the rockies like Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
Like you've probably seen on your feeds, this company called Sora.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
I don't know if you've seen these sor videos.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, So the AI used in that is incredible,
and the technology they're using is only getting better. So
imagine they can start bringing back any old actor or
they can take current actors and put them in projects.
It's it's part of one of the many changes that
are happening in the film and TV industry and another
part that's really big and that might save this sort
(15:49):
of downturn that's happening right now. From that film LA
has been reporting is the vertical shorts do you guys
are Do you know what vertical shorts are? And vertical
short dramas?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I do not so.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Imagine if you take like a Hallmark movie or a
Lifetime movie and you break it down into one minute
increments and you put it up on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram
reels and people are watching these by the not just
tens of millions, billions of us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So that format, that style, and that delivery process, it
feels like we're tried ten years ago. Yeah, because I
remember we were talking about an app that was nothing
but these short to be yes yeah too' h to
be where it was these short, very short in our
(16:40):
estimation things that shows that ended up on your phone
because that was the way we're going to be delivered.
And it didn't really take, at least not then.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
It didn't take then, But I think what you didn't
have then was TikTok, and TikTok has completely changed the
game and the way people are consuming content and the
way content creators are creating watchable programs.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What can you do in a minute? Though you tell
the whole story in a minute, I do.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Not tell the whole story.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
So like if you take literally, if you take a
whole ninety let's say a ninety minute.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Movie, Nobody makes ninety minute movies anymore.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
But if somebody did and you break it down minute
by minute, but at the end of each minute is
almost like a tease or something making you go, I
gotta see the next one. I gotta see the next one.
These little bits of video. Our videos are so addictive, really,
they are the most popular growing format online and on
social media right now.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Se when you watch a minute, then you got to
watch an ad and then another minute.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yep, you're like you're or you're just scrolling through to
see the next chapter, the next chapter. So like it's
so popular that every studio in town is clamoring and
then we love that word clamoring. They are trying to
find a way to get in on this, and Fox
is one of the ones that just recently they invested
in a Ukrainian app called Holy Water, and that is
going to produce two hundred or more vertical video series
(18:00):
and vertical video micro dramas. That is what is going
to a lot of people say sustain the entertainment industry
because it's produced and created the same way movies and
TV shows are.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
So you're consuming a movie like you would read a book.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Yeah, just a little like minuteresting minute out of time,
sixty seconds at a time.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
You're watching this.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're like, but it comes next, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
And it's so popular.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Every studio in town is trying to figure out how
can we get in on this because it is, like
I said, millions of people are consuming content and stories
this way. I have a friend who's an actress. She
tells people, Oh, I've been in eighty films, and I'm like, girl,
you've been in eighty vertical shorts.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
That's different.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
You can't tell people you've been in eighty films, but
that's the way the industry is going.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Yeah, and so she is now a big star in
these vertical film series.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
It's wild.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
You want to make one?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah, we could make one, and you could. That's how
you Space.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Can I be the wacky neighbor that pops over the
folk in.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Space warse because I already have your outfit, because I
totally like.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And Space like ones unit, but Space I.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Will one thousand percent.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Know I have the whole like I can see it
right now.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
And Michael Monks can be like the robot you know, Amatronic.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You're not going to like this, but I've cast you
and it's a compliment it's a compliment. Here comes You're
definitely going to be mister bumber Puss, and it's a compliment.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It's a compliment.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I don't know, but it does half cat.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
It sounds like a greasy life for you, bad ass.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And since you've put more work into yourself, now you
have the physique to be bumber.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Puss, want more work in it, so you started paying
attention and not hating yourself.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
I saw you doing push ups in the corner. I
feel like you could do this actually a it's an
action role.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Listen. I just will take anything. We don't have to
audition for you, do.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Not You do not have to audition.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Couch again.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You like Eddie Murphy. You've been to one audition. That's
all you need in.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
The whole life. You're cast the rest of life.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
You're Eddie Murphy from I want to do this and
I am envisioning it so hard.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Okay, good because I am too. Thank you for the
good news.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
By the way, You're welcome all good news. If you
want to hear more, you can listen entertain me. I've
got the full interview with philm la guy and you
guys are the best. Let's make a movie like a
vertical short.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Let's do it. Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 3 (20:44):
Having Steve Saxon here to start the show today reignited
my passion of having a company softball game.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
We've got to have. We've got to get everybody out there.
At some point.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We don't have people who work here anymore. I don't
know if you've seen the memos, but everyone's been fired,
six of us. Elmer would play, Yeah, but who, Like
I'm sorry, Eric, Eric might play?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Does Eric play?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
And he would?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't know if he's a good I know he's
in shape, but is he athletic?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I don't know, Elmer.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
When's the last time you played baseball? Softball through a ball?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Probably like last year? Okay, okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You played grown up.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yes, I'm Dominican, so say it like that. I am.
That's true, I'm legitimate, like I'm just good at baseball,
like just because I'm Dominican. That's amazing news. Okay, so Elmer,
you me Steve Sacks.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Steve Sacks is not going to play on our stupid team.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
You don't know I do.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Maybe it's only embarrass us by asking Steve Sacks if
he'll come to play on our team. We don't even
have enough to field one, let alone two.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Maybe just play over the line or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But I think I know what you're on too.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I think starting the show with Steve Sacks is like
starting the show with a shot at tequila.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Right, It's like, all right, let's go, let's do this show.
And he was.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
There wasn't a lot of negotiation that went into getting him.
He was just right there and we said, hey, can
you come on? And he said yes.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah. Period, There was no I mean I was pretty aggressive. Yeah,
but well but you know that's my you're wearing.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Rainbow bright jacket today. It's hard to say no to
that exactly. We were talking about AI. We'll talk about
it a little bit later, I think as well. But
there was this there's this statistic I saw that about
fifty one percent of the stuff that we see on
the Internet is now created by AI. They were talking
(22:48):
specifically about articles written news. News organizations have been using it.
Other places, blogs, et cetera. Have been using AI to
create blog posts, to create articles, etc.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
That you see and it's in.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean, it's terrifying, crazy number compared to what it
was even six months or a year ago.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's like, set aside what you think about journalists. You know,
let's go on our time machine and go back thirty
years when you could pretty much trust what you read
in newspapers and in publications online. And then now it's
not only can you not trust them and their bias
is going to shine through what is supposed to be
unbiased reporting, but now it may not even be a journalist,
(23:32):
and it may just be an AI conglomeration of information
computers find out there and put together in one article
for you. And so you really need to do your homework.
You really have to take everything you read with a
grain of salt. Nothing is trustworthy anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, there's something called the dead Internet theory, and I
think in the twelve o'clock hour we may jump into
this a little bit more. But Alex Alexis o'hannian, who
is one of the co founders of Reddit, and then
Sam Altman, co founder of open Ai, have been warning
about this dead Internet theory, which is that the Internet
is dominated by bots that are creating things and not
(24:13):
actual humans. That are creating things. Some people have dismissed
this whole thing as a conspiracy theory, but now they're saying, actually,
we thought it was impossible, and now that we see
statistics like fifty one percent of the articles that are
written are written by AI, maybe this is something that
we need to be concerned about.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I don't listen. AI.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Is it can be really fun and creating those videos
of Tupac and mister Rogers that can be really fun,
and that's entertaining, But holy crap, theory is a downside
to this, and I think we have to be careful.
I don't even know if we have the capability of
being careful enough with that sort of thing to protect ourselves.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Yeah, everything, fine, everything fine, kind of have a one
track of mine right now. Your vertical shorts.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, space wars, yep, that's a lot of Well.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I think it came together when I cast Biractar in
the commercial break and it came out of nowhere. Dean
Sharp was walking down the hall and I thought it
hit me like a train. Biractar with Dean as Biractar
and you as bumber Puss, we can't lose.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
There's got to be a female lead in there as well.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, Heather's in it. Amy King's going to be in it, right.
I haven't figured out what Amy King's gonna wear, because
I know what Heather's gonna wear. I have our space
suit all conceptualized in my mind. Amy King, I'm thinking
about something kind of crazy, a lot of colors.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, like take some inspiration
from your jacket.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Okay, I'm feeling very left out right.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I knew that was coming, and I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I didn't know you had interest. I would love for
you to be in the project.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
If nothing else. I mean you're the first narration.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean you're like out of Central casting for Space Wars.
I just didn't think that you had any interest in it.
Of course, Oh my gosh, this is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Tomorrow we're going to be live at BJ's Restaurant and
brew House in Huntington Beach, and you can if we
talk about Space Wars, you'll see the weird look that
Shannon gets on her face when we talk about it.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I think this is how we bring the country back together.
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, the hits just keep on coming, don't they. Katie
Porter gave us this beautiful day.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
You're out of my shots.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
She tried to quit an interview just last week.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I don't want to keep doing this. I'm gonna call it.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You're not gonna do the interview with them?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Asked, rumors and rumblings of her being an absolute nightmare person.
She was asked about those videos and are we going
to see little drips and drabs of other Katie Porter
videos coming out?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Should California voters feel confident that they're there aren't any
more Katie Porter videos out there?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, what I know is that I could have done
better in those moments. I'm going to be focused on
earning their votes and earning their trust. That's true in
every election I've only ever had tough elections, so I'm
absolutely aware that I'm going to have to continue to
show them. I'm going to have to answer every question.
I'm glad I got to continue that interview and finish
that interview and answer all her questions. And that's what
I'm going to continue to do to show Californians not
(01:26):
only that I understand their problems, but that I have
the will and the strength of character to actually get
something done about.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Though, but not just the CBS interview, the interview with
the staffer. Can voters be confident that there won't be
another one of those videos that's going to come to light.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
What I do know is that I could have done
better in that situation. That's not a note.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, I like that she's spinning this as strength of character.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Did you catch that?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, turn of phrase. You sure that I have the
strength of character? That I am an a hole is
basically what she's saying. Well in underlining it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
We talked about this last week.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I told you we did get some reaction, which was
we need someone like that to be.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
To be our governor.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
You know, it's about time that there are strong personalities
in the democratic party. You know, you know, I have
heard and I don't know if this is my bias
against people with attitudes like that. Those are the same
people who are backing up Katie Porter and saying, oh,
she just had a bad day, The same people that
(02:32):
would treat others the way she has been treating her
people are the same people that are.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Trying to make excuses here. Just whoever, I mean, just
whoever in your life you that you hear?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know, we all know people who fly off the
handle for no reason, who.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Who are rude to servers for example.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I mean we've talked about that being one of the
and that's that quality of human is awful. That is
an absolute, you know, trash person. And they are the
ones who are defending Katie Porter. That's what I have seen.
I'm sure there are other people.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Who are somebody who I have like the contrarian reaction
to that, because I'm somebody who flies off the handle,
but I have the reverse reaction of I like to
crucify people who show traits similar to mine.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, so, like I seen her do that, and I'm like,
oh my god, this is the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
How can you elect somebody who treats people like that.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Although I wouldn't fly up the handle to like like she's.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Flying off the handle to her stats.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's what I'm saying. I have never That's a huge difference.
I've seen you to.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Handle up up up the stairs.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I've seen you, Yes, you punch up, I've seen you.
I've seen you punch up. But I've never seen you
treat someone poorly like this. I mean someone that definitely
did not deserve that kind of treatment. And those are
the kinds of people that I see, and here defending her.
It's an ugly quality.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It is ugly because she's not talking about Trump, you
know what I mean. If you want someone who to
fight Trump, fight the machine that will be Trump even
after Trump is gone, that's one thing. But she's not
saving that for him. She's doing that to people.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Who work for her.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. So I think I've talked to
some Democrats about this. What do you think about this?
You know, is this going to ruin it for you?
Because I'm honestly curious, and it's that, well, who else
are we going to vote for a type of thing.
It's the Antonio Viragosa is just kind of a I mean,
he's likable, but he's kind of a clown and he's
(04:38):
he's what seventy something now, right, Yeah, he's not serious.
He seems like an unseerious candidate, like he doesn't want it.
Why would he want it that much? He's just kind
of bored. I get that kind of vibe that he's
just kind of bored, Like what's next? Maybe I'll do that?
All right, it's there.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Betty Ye, she's called on Katie Porter's step down, says
this could hurt democrats long run. She seems serious, but
nobody knows who she is. If I'm a Democrat, I
love her. She's qualified, she's got her head on straight,
but she's got no name recognition.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You got what Javier Bisera.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Right in a similar situation where there may be some
name recognition, but is he enough no money? Has he
been public enough for you to actually now support him?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So it's kind of like this is the bulldog you're
set with, and now you're getting too late for anybody
else to come up and gobble up whatever money is left.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's kind of too late. When's the election next spring?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
The primary will be June, I guess June. Okay, so
I don't know what you do.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They might just be stuck with They might run her
despite all of this, because already it's kind of gone
by the wayside. I mean, we were up in arms
about this last week. We're like, this will never go away.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It's a good point, it is, kind of and part
of it is to your point, we're still months away,
even just from the primary.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We still have time.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Had this come out in March or April, maybe it's
different and it gains it, it gets a little bit
more tracks.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But last week it looked a lot differently. You know,
do we see Mark Sanchez back in the booth?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Katie Porter's governor. Mark Sanchez is doing Monday night football.
Who knows how people rebound?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Who knows there may be a sign of hope, maybe
some blue skies amongst the cloudiness when it comes to
when it comes to film and TV production here in El,
I love blue skies.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Isn't it great to have a nice day of rain
where you're like, oh, it's a season, we're in the seasons.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And then it's over and.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's blether skies and beautiful boat just with a little
hint of chill.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
It's about sixty two degrees.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I love it. I love Ala for this race. I
do love that you're wearing your rainbows jacket today. I
like my rainbow bright jacket. It's warm and bright.
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Speaker 5 (07:50):
We're going to be giving away. They do in the building.
What are you giving away my heart?
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Your heart?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yes, I don't think that's yours to give away. Who's
this ta give away?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Your wife?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Oh, she has a chunk of it, rightly, probably a
good chunk, good portion of it. The other of the
four chambers. Probably.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You said something funny yesterday. Oh I did social media. Sorry,
he said something that was very funny about you having
a cold, black, dead heart.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I said, such on you said your computer's dead.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And black like my heart. Yeah, and I thought that's
very funny.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Thank you. Appreciate that game recognized game? Is that what
that was?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You have the game to begin with, to recognize the
game that I have. I appreciate LA film production went down.
But but but, and it's a big one. There may
be some signs of recovery and all of this. Heather
Brooker has joined us to talk about the world of entertainment.
In the world of entertainment, but specifically when it comes
to the business of entertainment here in LA.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
So you know, I love to get into the minutia
of the entertainment, like what are we doing?
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Why aren't we all working more? Where is showbiz?
Speaker 9 (08:59):
So we got the report yesterday from Film LA that
said that overall production is down just over thirteen percent
in Los Angeles. They only specifically focus on the Greater
Los Angeles area and they work with the county and
the city on filming permits. It's down mostly in reality TV.
There's not a lot of reality TV shows filming here,
(09:21):
and dramas are down slightly. However, there is some good news,
you know. This summer they pass the big you know,
we've talked about this for a long time, the Big
Film and TV tax Credit, and out of that, twenty
two productions applied for and received like almost right away
the tax credit. So those productions, eighteen of them, which
(09:43):
are all television shows, are going to be filming here
in Los Angeles. We're not seeing any bump in production
from that yet, because those productions have one hundred and
eighty days from the time they receive the incentive to
apply and start production in LA. So what we seeing
is this sort of lull before things pick back up again,
(10:04):
because it's not just going to be these eighteen productions
in LA. They're fully expecting by spring even more because
in the coming week, and this is a little scoop
you guys, scoop here on the Gary and Channa Show.
Scoop music, Let's do it, the California Film Commission is
expected to announce in the next week or so that
(10:25):
they're bringing back even more feature films to Los Angeles
specifically and in California.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And what does that do to Damn?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I apologize? He gets carried away sometimes, guys.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
I'm trying to be serious. I have serious news, I
have things highlighted. And this is like.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
This is newsether.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
No, this is good.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
This means that when we pick up again, like after
the holidays, there's always a lull in the fall because
of the holiday breaks and all of that, there's gonna
be even more productions coming.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Back to LA.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
And that's due to just the film and TV tax credit.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's enough for them to come back.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
Yes, because we're going to be bringing back and this
is sort of like a preview, I've guest of the
announcement they're going to announce they're bringing back more feature films.
Right now, we're seeing this bump in television. They're saying
they're luring back more feature films to come and film
back here in LA which is longer work schedule, you know,
because television shows are you know, weeks at a time,
(11:28):
and you know, but now it's going to be like
months at a time for movies.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I have a question about movie production, and oh should
I wait for it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, it's just we've never in ten years, I don't
think we've ever worked out hand signals.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
No one like this that was like this one, and
I don't know what that's Can we carry her over?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's what that meant? I know what you met or
was it like a wrap this night? I didn't know
what the clock said.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Had I known what the clock said, I wouldn't have
even need to see your hand signal to know what
you were thinking.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yes, but we can.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Can we come back?
Speaker 8 (12:03):
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Speaker 3 (12:09):
The US passport has fallen out of the top ten
most powerful passports globally.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
For the first time in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
This is according to the latest edition of the Henley
Passport Index, which ranks nations based on the number of
destinations a traveler can visit without needing a visa. The
US ranking has fallen again. We're now twelfth on the list,
tied with Malaysia. A decade ago, the US passport was
at the top of the index. Right now, one, two
(12:38):
and three in terms of most powerful passports, Singapore, South.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Korea and Japan. Interesting top three most powerful.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I want to go to Singapore badly. I heard it's
beautiful and clean.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And Dodgers beat the Brewers again. Yamamoto pitched a complete game,
five to one win over Milwaukee. They come back and
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Mariners will host the Blue Jays in Game three of
the ALCS up in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Five o'clock, first pitch there. Tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We are talking to kfi's entertainment reporter, Heather Brooker. She
doesn't just do entertainment, but sometimes she well it's her specialty.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
She does other things as well.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
But we are talking to her about entertainment today and
I had a question for you. You were talking about
production coming back from back to LA and we'll see
it pick up in the spring, notably because of what
they've been able to do with incentives and bringing those back.
We've talked about actors losing out their jobs to AI,
the threat of that, the concern of it. We've talked
(13:39):
about directors as well in the same regard, but we
haven't really talked about it from a production standpoint. Are
there sets or cities or sound stages or what have
you that are going to lose out their money or
their population to AI. In terms of, you know, the
(14:00):
backdrops of movies and shows and things like that, how
much of that can be AI?
Speaker 9 (14:06):
I think a lot of it can be AI. So
there's a very small distinction between CGI technology and AI.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
I think AI can be.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
Used in CGI, but it's a little bit different technicality
the way that they're both produced and created. We are
going to, without a doubt, start seeing more AI technology
in every part of the film and television industry, from
the script writing process to the budgeting process, how movies
are using AI to put together a film budget, to
(14:39):
practical things like on the set, to special effects and
working in CGI. AI is not going anywhere. If anything,
it is going to be used even more in film
and television. I think when we were talking a few
weeks ago, I had read that there was something like
seventy percent of films being made right now or using
some form of AI.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Well, post production is probably one of those where you know,
colorization or evening out the look of an entire two
hour feature film or something like that, that's what all
looks the same.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
Like you know those the older actors that they're still using,
but they make them look youthful and like can smooth
out their skin.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And lighting them through the rockies like Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
Like you've probably seen on your feeds, this company called Sora.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
I don't know if you've seen these sor videos.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, So the AI used in that is incredible,
and the technology they're using is only getting better. So
imagine they can start bringing back any old actor or
they can take current actors and put them in projects.
It's it's part of one of the many changes that
are happening in the film and TV industry and another
part that's really big and that might save this sort
(15:49):
of downturn that's happening right now. From that film LA
has been reporting is the vertical shorts do you guys
are Do you know what vertical shorts are? And vertical
short dramas?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I do not so.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Imagine if you take like a Hallmark movie or a
Lifetime movie and you break it down into one minute
increments and you put it up on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram
reels and people are watching these by the not just
tens of millions, billions of us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So that format, that style, and that delivery process, it
feels like we're tried ten years ago. Yeah, because I
remember we were talking about an app that was nothing
but these short to be yes yeah too' h to
be where it was these short, very short in our
(16:40):
estimation things that shows that ended up on your phone
because that was the way we're going to be delivered.
And it didn't really take, at least not then.
Speaker 9 (16:48):
It didn't take then, But I think what you didn't
have then was TikTok, and TikTok has completely changed the
game and the way people are consuming content and the
way content creators are creating watchable programs.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What can you do in a minute? Though you tell
the whole story in a minute, I do.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Not tell the whole story.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
So like if you take literally, if you take a
whole ninety let's say a ninety minute.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Movie, Nobody makes ninety minute movies anymore.
Speaker 9 (17:13):
But if somebody did and you break it down minute
by minute, but at the end of each minute is
almost like a tease or something making you go, I
gotta see the next one. I gotta see the next one.
These little bits of video. Our videos are so addictive, really,
they are the most popular growing format online and on
social media right now.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Se when you watch a minute, then you got to
watch an ad and then another minute.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yep, you're like you're or you're just scrolling through to
see the next chapter, the next chapter. So like it's
so popular that every studio in town is clamoring and
then we love that word clamoring. They are trying to
find a way to get in on this, and Fox
is one of the ones that just recently they invested
in a Ukrainian app called Holy Water, and that is
going to produce two hundred or more vertical video series
(18:00):
and vertical video micro dramas. That is what is going
to a lot of people say sustain the entertainment industry
because it's produced and created the same way movies and
TV shows are.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
So you're consuming a movie like you would read a book.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Yeah, just a little like minuteresting minute out of time,
sixty seconds at a time.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
You're watching this.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're like, but it comes next, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
And it's so popular.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Every studio in town is trying to figure out how
can we get in on this because it is, like
I said, millions of people are consuming content and stories
this way. I have a friend who's an actress. She
tells people, Oh, I've been in eighty films, and I'm like, girl,
you've been in eighty vertical shorts.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
That's different.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
You can't tell people you've been in eighty films, but
that's the way the industry is going.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Yeah, and so she is now a big star in
these vertical film series.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
It's wild.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
You want to make one?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah, we could make one, and you could. That's how
you Space.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Can I be the wacky neighbor that pops over the
folk in.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Space warse because I already have your outfit, because I
totally like.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And Space like ones unit, but Space I.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Will one thousand percent.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Know I have the whole like I can see it
right now.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
And Michael Monks can be like the robot you know, Amatronic.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You're not going to like this, but I've cast you
and it's a compliment it's a compliment. Here comes You're
definitely going to be mister bumber Puss, and it's a compliment.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It's a compliment.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I don't know, but it does half cat.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
It sounds like a greasy life for you, bad ass.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And since you've put more work into yourself, now you
have the physique to be bumber.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Puss, want more work in it, so you started paying
attention and not hating yourself.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
I saw you doing push ups in the corner. I
feel like you could do this actually a it's an
action role.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Listen. I just will take anything. We don't have to
audition for you, do.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Not You do not have to audition.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Couch again.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You like Eddie Murphy. You've been to one audition. That's
all you need in.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
The whole life. You're cast the rest of life.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
You're Eddie Murphy from I want to do this and
I am envisioning it so hard.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Okay, good because I am too. Thank you for the
good news.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
By the way, You're welcome all good news. If you
want to hear more, you can listen entertain me. I've
got the full interview with philm la guy and you
guys are the best. Let's make a movie like a
vertical short.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Let's do it. Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Having Steve Saxon here to start the show today reignited
my passion of having a company softball game.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
We've got to have. We've got to get everybody out there.
At some point.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We don't have people who work here anymore. I don't
know if you've seen the memos, but everyone's been fired,
six of us. Elmer would play, Yeah, but who, Like
I'm sorry, Eric, Eric might play?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Does Eric play?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
And he would?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't know if he's a good I know he's
in shape, but is he athletic?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
I don't know, Elmer.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
When's the last time you played baseball? Softball through a ball?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Probably like last year? Okay, okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You played grown up.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yes, I'm Dominican, so say it like that. I am.
That's true, I'm legitimate, like I'm just good at baseball,
like just because I'm Dominican. That's amazing news. Okay, so Elmer,
you me Steve Sacks.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Steve Sacks is not going to play on our stupid team.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
You don't know I do.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Maybe it's only embarrass us by asking Steve Sacks if
he'll come to play on our team. We don't even
have enough to field one, let alone two.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Maybe just play over the line or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But I think I know what you're on too.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I think starting the show with Steve Sacks is like
starting the show with a shot at tequila.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Right, It's like, all right, let's go, let's do this show.
And he was.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
There wasn't a lot of negotiation that went into getting him.
He was just right there and we said, hey, can
you come on? And he said yes.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah. Period, There was no I mean I was pretty aggressive. Yeah,
but well but you know that's my you're wearing.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Rainbow bright jacket today. It's hard to say no to
that exactly. We were talking about AI. We'll talk about
it a little bit later, I think as well. But
there was this there's this statistic I saw that about
fifty one percent of the stuff that we see on
the Internet is now created by AI. They were talking
(22:48):
specifically about articles written news. News organizations have been using it.
Other places, blogs, et cetera. Have been using AI to
create blog posts, to create articles, etc.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
That you see and it's in.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean, it's terrifying, crazy number compared to what it
was even six months or a year ago.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's like, set aside what you think about journalists. You know,
let's go on our time machine and go back thirty
years when you could pretty much trust what you read
in newspapers and in publications online. And then now it's
not only can you not trust them and their bias
is going to shine through what is supposed to be
unbiased reporting, but now it may not even be a journalist,
(23:32):
and it may just be an AI conglomeration of information
computers find out there and put together in one article
for you. And so you really need to do your homework.
You really have to take everything you read with a
grain of salt. Nothing is trustworthy anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, there's something called the dead Internet theory, and I
think in the twelve o'clock hour we may jump into
this a little bit more. But Alex Alexis o'hannian, who
is one of the co founders of Reddit, and then
Sam Altman, co founder of open Ai, have been warning
about this dead Internet theory, which is that the Internet
is dominated by bots that are creating things and not
(24:13):
actual humans. That are creating things. Some people have dismissed
this whole thing as a conspiracy theory, but now they're saying, actually,
we thought it was impossible, and now that we see
statistics like fifty one percent of the articles that are
written are written by AI, maybe this is something that
we need to be concerned about.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I don't listen. AI.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Is it can be really fun and creating those videos
of Tupac and mister Rogers that can be really fun,
and that's entertaining, But holy crap, theory is a downside
to this, and I think we have to be careful.
I don't even know if we have the capability of
being careful enough with that sort of thing to protect ourselves.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Yeah, everything, fine, everything fine, kind of have a one
track of mine right now. Your vertical shorts.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, space wars, yep, that's a lot of Well.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I think it came together when I cast Biractar in
the commercial break and it came out of nowhere. Dean
Sharp was walking down the hall and I thought it
hit me like a train. Biractar with Dean as Biractar
and you as bumber Puss, we can't lose.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
There's got to be a female lead in there as well.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, Heather's in it. Amy King's going to be in it, right.
I haven't figured out what Amy King's gonna wear, because
I know what Heather's gonna wear. I have our space
suit all conceptualized in my mind. Amy King, I'm thinking
about something kind of crazy, a lot of colors.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, like take some inspiration
from your jacket.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Okay, I'm feeling very left out right.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I knew that was coming, and I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I didn't know you had interest. I would love for
you to be in the project.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
If nothing else. I mean you're the first narration.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean you're like out of Central casting for Space Wars.
I just didn't think that you had any interest in it.
Of course, Oh my gosh, this is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Tomorrow we're going to be live at BJ's Restaurant and
brew House in Huntington Beach, and you can if we
talk about Space Wars, you'll see the weird look that
Shannon gets on her face when we talk about it.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I think this is how we bring the country back together.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
BJ's Restaurant in brue House on Beach Boulevard, there in
Huntington Beach. We'll do the whole show out there from
nine to one that includes that massive twelve o'clock hour.
We are on the verge of the medium sized eleven
o'clock hour here.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
We'll be back with that right after this. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,
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