October 8, 2025 • 31 mins
Gary and Shannon break down Representative Katie Porter’s disastrous CBS interview that nearly ended in a walkout, and what it could mean for her California gubernatorial campaign. Plus, KFI’s Michael Monks reports live from the Palisades fire press conference, and the LA Times details a controversial plan to shoot Catalina deer from the ground instead of by helicopter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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demand on the iHeartRadio app. We've got all four playoff
series tonight tonight today. It starts at noon. We got
Seattle and the ye No Detroit, Detroit, and that's the
(00:24):
Seattle's up to one, up to one. And then we've
got what's next Milwaukee Chicago, and Milwaukee's up to nothing?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right right.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It starts at two o'clock Toronto, New York, and what's that?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
At four? What's that? Toronto leads two to one. Oh man,
he's came back. Last.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
As you see, Aaron Judge hit the foul pole. No,
I don't know why they call it the foul pole.
It's the fair pole. But he hit the fair pole
to we get a home run. Okay, he never, he
never does a bad flip, and he did a bad flip.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And then Philadelphia, La.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Of course at five first pitches, just after five, and
the Dodgers lead that series two to nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, the big news today is that an uber driver
twenty nine years old has been arrested in Florida for
starting the January first fire that became the January seventh
deadly fire that wiped out Pacific Palisades, killed twelve people
in the process. Michael Monks from KFI News was there
at the press conference this morning, joins us and I
would imagine Michael, that fire science is going to play
(01:20):
a significant role in the evidence presented to a grand jury,
a federal grand jury in this case of connecting that
January first Front fire to what happened on January seventh.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
In fact, we got a little taste of that as
the press conference was starting to conclude. I know we
were carrying that live here on KFI, but for folks
who might have missed it, Special Agent in charge of
the ATF here in La Kenny Cooper, he started to
dive into a little bit of that, and he's explaining
the way that these types of investigations work. This was
a massive fire, and massive isn't even the right word
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for it. It was totally destructive and deadly as well. They
brought in ton of resources to investigate. We're eight months
removed from this fire and only now are they making
a formal arrest, and that is because of the amount
of evidence that not only were they able to collect
from this, suspect Jonathan rendernecked digitally his own digital trail,
(02:17):
his own physical trail. The ATF had folks on their
hands and knees on the ground searching for what physical
evidence could still be attained here. So yes, I can
tell if today's remarks by Special Agent in Charge of
the ATF, Kenny Cooper here in Los Angeles or any
indication fire science is certainly going to play a significant
(02:38):
role in the prosecution as they explain how this fire
was started, how it was initially suppressed, and how it
re emerged when the Santa Ana Wins came and ultimately
claimed so much of the palisades.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, there's a lot in that criminal complaint.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We're going to be checking back in with Michael throughout
the course of the day as we get some more information. Again,
the guy is expected in court in floor at a
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
As a matter of fact, Thanks Michael, appreciate it. You
got it. Michael Monk's there with KFI News.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
It's so nice to have reporters out of the big stories.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Feels good.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It feels like we got our finger on the pulse.
All right, there was that massive explosion in El segundo
that happened?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
My goodness, when was that Thursday night? Friday morning? Right?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
The explosion that led to the fire turned into or
at the Chevron elsa goodo plant that has turned into
a jet fuel processing unit in that sprawling oil refinery
there that you can see from the freeway. Chevron officials
have said little about what happened, but they have confirmed
(03:45):
that the ISOMAX unit and that's what converts oil into
jet fuel, remains shuddered. So probably a problem with the
isomax unit.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
The ISOMAX unit converts the products like jet fuel still
close the refinery.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Fires are not unheard of.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
In fact, if you deal with extremely flammable liquids on
a regular basis, you know that this is coming. And
in fact, Chevron has an on site firefighting team that
does nothing but train for this sort of thing. But
they're saying that this one was out of the ordinary
when it comes to the kinds of fires that they see,
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that this one was much larger than they usually trained for.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Pretty much best case scenario here. The people who study
these types of explosions and what lead to them say
Chevron has been extremely extremely lucky given the size in
terms of any sort of fallout. Andrew Lippou is president
of the consulting firm lip Out Oil Associates in Houston.
He says that usually these kinds of things equipment failures.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, it's usually hot oil and gas reached the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You can't do that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Finds an ignition, source fire results and in this case
a quick fire ends up being basically the explosion.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
A human factor could be maybe operator error. Organizational factors
will be called into question, corporate decisions like if there's
not enough training or staffing, tech failures that can lead
to those equipment failures like corrosion. They mentioned the twenty
fifteen explosion at Exon Mobiles Torrents refinery where they found
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a combination of all of this. I have a quick
personal note, Oh, you have an explosion you want to
tell us about that happened this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So that wasn't a note. Well, it wasn't this morning,
it was long ago. Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But while I was working in Seattle as a reporter,
there was a fire at explosion and a fire at
a refinery in Bellingham. And my parents had come to
visit us for Thanksgiving, and my dad went with me
to the conference late. It was the night before thanks
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It was Wednesday night, I think before Thanksgiving, and we
drove I was in a rental car at the time
because my car had been stolen. Long story. And we
drove to Bellingham and he's telling me everything he knows
about oil refining, which isn't a whole lot, but a
lot more than I knew because he's a chemical.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He was a chemical.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He was a chemist and a physical scientist, so he
knew a lot of what was going on, but I
had no clue.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So by the time I get.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
To Sarah Pumpkin of Pumpkin, So by the time we
get to this news conference, I'm afraid, like I'm gonna
have to tell hey, Dad, you can't come in the room,
the conference room because you don't have any credentials or anything.
And I didn't say a word, but I was afraid
that he was going to have to wait outside. He
just walked right in with me. So we sat there
in this news conference. I'm asking the questions, doing the
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reporter thing, and blah blah blah blah blah. That was
one of the greatest times because he's like, that's what
you do for a job.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I mean, he wasn't that. It was a great I
love that story.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And I remember thinking, well, he's gonna go Why would
he want to go watch me sit in a news conference?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I always have a soft spot in my heart for
Refinery Fire totally.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I love that because so often, you know, kids don't
know what their parents do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Parents don't know what their kids.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I remember going to work with my mom and having
a new respect for her, knowing that she was this
boss in the hospital, And how cool is that. Not
just somebody who's you know, bitching at you at home,
you know, or whatever, but you know.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Your parents, everybody to clean their room, but.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
The parents the same thing. Your parents don't really know
what you do. So for them to see you in
action is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And something that he's interested in too, Yeah, that he
could he could help me figure out. Yeah, you know,
when they're talking about stuff, especially the night or the
drive home, it's still you know, an hour and a
half or two hours in the car on the way home.
He was able to explain to me what they were
talking about. And the difference between cochers, I think is
the word and corkers and corkers all of these different
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things that went into the process of refining oil into gasoline.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So that was good.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Katie Porter. Katie Porter may have stepped on her own
dress here. She does not look good in this latest
interview you thank you address?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Was she?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Uh? Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (08:28):
Our big story today, a twenty nine year old man
out of Florida has been arrested in charge with starting
the Palisades fire. He is due in court at the
bottom of the hour in Orlando, so we'll get some
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The California gubernatorial candidate ernatorial former representative Katie Porter, and
she is the front run runner in that race, has
tried to end an interview with a reporter after she
was asked what she would say to voters in California
who voted for President Trump. Now she before we play
it for you, just be on guard because she is
(09:42):
she gets very combative. I think we should set the
scene for the interview optics. Sure, the reporter and Katie
Porter arened a knee, the chairs are so that they
are face to face. It's a pretty common interview shot
of you're pretty close to the person. That's why I
say need a knee picture, two chairs facing each other,
need any for that close shot. They're in a control room,
(10:05):
so imagine them in front of a board with a
lot of buttons and a lot of screens behind them.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Uh yeah, like a production room. Like a production room.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And Katie Porter is lit very poorly, one harsh light
from above.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It seems like it's the only light in the room.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Her people should be fired to agreeing to the lighting period.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It looked like an interrogation set up.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Her people should also be fired for the unflattering and
I'll say it because I'm a woman. Unflattering dress they
put her in for this shot. No one is going
to look good in that dress. No one. It is
an It just you need a certain kind of dress
(10:47):
with infrastructure when you're running for office, you know something.
Maybe it gets called boxy a lot, boxy blazers, whatever,
there's a reason boxy is safe and it looks good
on camera. And so oh, anyway, that is the scene.
The angle is at you are looking at them from
the side, so they're face to face and you're looking
(11:08):
at them head on, so it's the both of their sides.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's also Julie Watts is the reporter, and she was
asking all of the candidates for governor, at least the
ones that would sit for the interview. A series of questions,
including questions about Prop fifty coming up for redistricting. And
that's what Katie Porter was talking about. When this question
comes up about getting the support of Trump voters in California.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Man?
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty all everybody
who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That's what you're in a general election.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yes, okay, there's two things that happened in that just
in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
There there's so much here.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes, Katie Porter first of is surprised by the question,
like she didn't quite understand it, and does this thing.
You can tell because there's I think it's a three
camera setup. The the camera where you can see both
Katie Porter and the reporter. Uh, she does this thing
where she goes, uh, why would I want?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Why would I need?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
The And then and then looks at whoever is with her,
like Katie Porter's people, and looks like, can.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You believe this jick asking me this dumb quoin?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like the reporter just slapped her baby. That highlights to
me a couple things the way you said. She acts
like she didn't understand the question. She can't believe she
was asked a question that, in my opinion, is the
problem with the Democratic Party to act so affronted that
you would ever have to make somebody voted for Trump happy.
(12:51):
I don't want any of those people. If those people
didn't everyone learn from Hillary Clinton in her downfall when
she called that population the deplorables. To continue that mindset,
does you no favors even in a state like California.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's a bad look.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You look like an a hole that you just don't
care for people that don't agree with you politically. Why
wouldn't you use that opportunity? And you know what, Gavin
Newsom does a great job at this. I will hand
him this trophy. He does a great job of, at
the very least, pretending to care what Republican voters want
and think and the way they vote, why.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
They vote the way they do. He's at least playing
that game.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Playing the game. And you know what, I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I love that because at least he's admitting there's a
problem with the Democratic Party and why has it failed?
And if you don't think it has, well, look who's
back in the White House, Look who has control of Congress.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You're failing. It's a simple miss a misdiagnosis. Not everybody
who voted for Trump really loves that guy. No, not
everybody who voted for Trump is a Republican. They just
got so sick, and some of them, not all, some
of them got so sick and tired about the way
the Democratic Party was working that they said, I'd rather
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go with the evil that I know than the evil
I don't know. Or I have a better idea of
what would happen under a second Trump presidency, then I
have an idea of what would happen to Rakamala Harris presidency.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Why wouldn't you take that opportunity, as Katie Porter in
that seat, to say, you know what, I would.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Like to get the votes of people that voted for Trump.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I would love to take the opportunity to reach out
the way Gavin Newsom's doing. Why wouldn't you take that
opportunity to show solidarity with another California Democrat whos seeking
higher office and not slap forty percent of the state
of California right in the face.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And she does a little bit later in the interview
kind of change her tune a little bit on that,
and we'll play some more of it for you when
we could, because we haven't even gotten to the good parts.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah. I can't even handle this. I don't even want
to do this.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, hands up on the front and I'm triggered she
didn't say you hand it to that reporter for not
losing it. I would not have handled that as well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Kudos to Julie Watts. Yeah, friend of the show. Now,
by the way, is it she's been on our show? No,
But I'm just saying she's giving her kudos for the
way she handled it. I think we maybe she doesn't
want to be friends with us. Probably not.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
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Speaker 1 (15:19):
All of that counts. It doesn't matter what I think
of Katie Porter's dress or anything. All of that counts.
The optics of why you have to look the part
on the trail, I mean timely reference. But just ask Nixon,
you just go back to the first presidential debate in
nineteen sixty when the world fell in love with JFK.
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Because the way he looked it all counts in an election.
It doesn't matter what the election is. For optics count.
You don't have to be a beauty pageant winner, but
you have to be presentable, and that's not what's presented
in this interview.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It is a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, I like to think I would be above
of choosing a political candidate based on looks. But it
does have some There is something to it.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I mean there is.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
We're just we're sometimes big dumb animals that rely on
our eyeballs more than our brains to make decisions.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Even if we.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Think it doesn't count for us or it doesn't matter, somewhere,
it does a little bit, even a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Hey, Gary Shanon Tyler from Santa Monica.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Hey Tyler, I definitely think Katie Porter turned into a
pumpkin during that interview.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh interesting, I'm sure you do too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We were talking about pumpkin and how the history of
the word pumpkin and used as a nickname. It's not
it wasn't always a nice nickname, A little pumpkin, Hey, pumpkin.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It was actually really bad.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
If you were a stupid person, if you were full
of yourself, you were called a pumpkin back in you know,
the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Katie Porter president governor's candidate for the Democratic Party looking
for the nomination, and she was interviewed by Julie Watts
out of CBS News in Sacramento.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
How would I need them in order to win? Man?
Speaker 9 (17:10):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty all everybody
who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it
is me versus a Republican, I think that I will
win the people who did not vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What if it's you versus another Democrat? I don't intend
that to be the case.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Okay, that doesn't make sense because we have now we
have a top two primary. Excuse me here in California,
and we've seen repeatedly since we've had a top two
primary that the top two vote getters in the primary
are Democrats. So we have Democrats running against Democrats very
often in these in these races.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So far, one memo she did not get was the
memo that it's a bad look for you to slap
people who voted for Trump in the face.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Democrats hate to think that they want anything to do
with Trump, and they certainly don't want those votes.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
But you should want them if you're running.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The other memo she did not get was we are
so done as a country with the smug politician who
thinks that they're better, or that their war chest is
big enough, or that they are going to roll over
whoever they're going to face in the primary, what have you.
Even if that's the case, smug, We're done with it.
We are done and done and done with it. It
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worked for Barack Obama in o wait hell, he was
a great speaker, smug as hell. It worked for him.
But it worked for Barack Obama. It doesn't work for you,
Katie Porter.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Do you? Are you going to ask them not to run?
Speaker 10 (18:46):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But let me be clear with you. I represented Orange County.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
I represented a I have stood on my own two
feet and one Republican votes before. That's not something every
candidate in this race can say. If you're from a
deep blue area, if you're from LA or you're from Oakland,
you don't have an.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Experien You just said you don't need those Trump voters, so.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
You asked me if I need them to win. You
don't feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I feel she is projecting there because her first answer
there about I read Orange County, and she's being combative
where it was unnecessarily needed.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
She's the one who contradicted herself, yes, and then this
whole thing, and again, the visuals on this are pretty good,
but she says this line that just destroyed me.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
You don't I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. She's literally talking
to a reporter. You have to expect that you're going
to be receiving questions from a reporter. Hopefully that's the
way reporters supposed to do their jobs. If you make
a contradictory statement like that, it's Julie Watts's job to
go hold on a second. At first, you're gonna win
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without their support, and then you're saying I'm the only
one in the race who can win their support.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Katie Porter's been playing in the pool of Democrats for
far too long where everyone's babying her and she can
do no wrong because she's a Democrat in California. She
faces a little bit of pushback and she freaking crumbles.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Exactly so the shels on.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The thing that bothers you the most about that part,
I would argue, and you can stop me if I'm wrong,
is that she raises her hands and puts them in
the reporter's face in a what kind of motion would
this be?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like she's pushing, and she's pushing.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
She both hands in between and remember their need and
need they're very close. Katie Porter raises her pause and
pushes them towards that reporter and it's way aggressive. You
think she sounds combative and aggressive. The hand motion is
almost threatening.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Again, reported Julie Watts did a great job like.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
This is a necessarily argumentative is.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power graph.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Every other candidate has answered this question.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
This is not, and I said, I support it.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?
Speaker 10 (21:20):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer questions for the question is you haven't
written and all answer?
Speaker 9 (21:27):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win? And you're saying no, you don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote
I can.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
You should start to say that well to those voters.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing someone getting.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
So frustrated, And that's the first interview.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Where you're going to do the interview with I'm not
like this. I'm not not with seven follow ups to
every single question you ask.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So she's literally she's she's looking at her people like
I think, and here we are.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Now the other people in the race are immediately picking
up on this. Javiosara, who is currently running third in
the polling, says I would never want to exclude a voter.
That's what you should say an Tonio Viragosa has said,
we need a leader who's going to solve hard problems.
All of these people are now they realize she completely
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blew this interview, completely blew it. Now, she probably never
expected that this is something that goes viral or that
people watch because.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
She that's how she behaves behind closed doors, and that's
something you should know.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
She should listen. If I'm Katie Porters.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
And all the money money went to her, all the.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Money, If I'm Katie Porter's campaign manager, I say, hey, listen,
you need to get out there and get in front
of this and say I was having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I didn't think of it. I understood the question.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
You got to all how bad days I screwed up.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
This would be a perfect like I was saying yesterday,
I want a politician to It would be so refreshing
for them to take accountability. For Katie Porter to come
out and be like, I screwed up. I came across
a total b and I apologize to that reporter. This is,
in hindsight, what a ridiculous answer. Of course, I want
those voters. I want to know what matters to them.
(23:15):
If I can get them to play on my team
one hundred and ten percent. I will reach out and
talk to them and find out what I need to
do to get that vote. I that would go so
far in my book as an independent. Yeah, but it's
not gonna happen, is.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It all right?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Up next, hunting from Helicopters may go by the wayside.
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Speaker 6 (23:43):
Justin Worsham is coming in in the eleven o'clock hours.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
What a smiley Wednesday shift.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I love it when Justin comes in. He is such
a delight and we're going to talk about parenting.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Even in the worst I mean we've we've been with
Justin for years. Yeah, and he's had sad things happen
in his life. He still comes in and is happy.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Hey, he's just a delightful person to be around.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
He has a gift.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And it's such a nice never mind, I don't need
to say something mean to you to to to make
yourself feel better about I was gonna I was just
gonna occur the highlight.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What a delight he is to be around.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Like your turtleneck do you. I'm very big into turtlenecks
to you know, cover up.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, I wasn't talking about your shirt.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
There is a uh, I don't even get like you
can't see.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
But you're about to launch a salvo against me, and
I I shot first.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I feel like a turtleneck is more like a penis thing?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, okay? Anyway?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Your time out?
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Homeless?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What? Oh dear right? I think I know what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
This month, the californ on the Island Conservancy has announced
a plan to get rid of the non native deer
population on Santa Catalina Islands.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I had not even heard that there was a
plan to shoot the deer from the sky. Oh yeah,
And I certainly wasn't understanding that they had changed that
plan to now shoot them from the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, last year the Conservancy was planning to shoot deer
from helicopters. Everybody got pissed at that. That's awful. Why
that's different from shooting them from the ground.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's exactly my point. How does that make it better?
They say that deer, why why shoot them at all?
You're asking same? They say that the deer heightened the
wildfire risk by eating the native vegetation, to which I say,
why don't you just relocate them? Send in a ferry
loaded up with deer, two thousand deer, move them into
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my neighborhood. We've got plenty of deer, whether deer or wonderful.
They are plentiful. They live off of the land. It's
it's great. Bring me the deer.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I think you'd better be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You cannot have people going in there and shooting deer
on Catalina. This is not uh, you know, Yellowstone. This
is not an area where people are used to animals
being shot. It's just it. It's it's not going to
go over well. Ever, no matter how you take out
the deer, it is going to be a mess.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Would you rather poison them?
Speaker 7 (26:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I would relocate them. Why can't you relocate them?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I do think it's cost prohibitive to relocate them, two.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Thousand of them. I don't care. They're not hamsters.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I don't care. You know what, where's private money for this?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
What is that? What? Oh? To relocate? Yeah, private relocation.
We built the freaking bridge.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
We built the wildlife bridge over the one one.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
La County Fire chief pushes back on the notion that
the deer actually pose a fire hazard. He actually told
supervisor Janis Han this is in her district, that he
believes they mitigate fire risks by eating vegetation, and the
supervisor then said the Conservancy should attempt should attempt every
possible alternative before resorting to eradication. So you and Janis
(27:24):
Hahn agree that you should do something else. The Conservancy
says it has considered and ruled out all of those
different options except sterilization, which they said could be used
for some deer around the city of Avalon. Mule deer
were brought in back in the twenties as a.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
For hunters.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Basically, it would you could go out to Catalina and hunt.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Why wasn't sterilization considered. I don't know what the lifespan
of a deer is, but why are you just now
getting to that solution as opposed to seeing this being
a problem down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well they used to do or they still do. They
do recreationally allow hunters to go out to Katalena and
kill deer, but there's not enough of them and they're
not doing enough to curb the population. They're bringing in professional.
I know, I know you are, and I don't know
the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That's why they're done, just because they're dumb and they
didn't think about it. Well, I don't know if it's
that they didn't think about it. How do you sterilize
a deer? Well, it can be done. How Well, if
it's an option, then it's something that's done.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean, do you walk up to the deer and
give it a shot of depa program.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Not an animal science person have.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But if it's a if it's one of the solutions
that they're coming up with, now, it's clearly done. People
that are not too boobs in a radio studio know
how to sterilize an fing deer.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You know, I'm just saying, but maybe that's one of
those things that's also cost prohibitive.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
You know, if you're sterilizing the male.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
All I'm hearing is that you want to go shoot
deer on Catalina. You're like, sign me up, give me
all the rifles, all, take out all the deer. That's
all the words I hear coming out of it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I will be I'll say this, whoever these private contractors
are that get to go in and hunt two thousand
of these deer.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's a good job. It's a good job. You get
to camp on Catalina? Could you mad? What a beautiful
place to go camping.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Do you want me to tell you what Ai has
told me about sterilization a female deer and male deer?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, you wouldn't need to do both, right, Well, can
you choose who would you like?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let's sterilize the males?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Okay, males are captured and tagged with identifying markers. A
scarring agent is injected through the skin, forming a plug
that prevents sperm flow in the skin. The deer is
released without altering its behavior. Boom, that sounds pretty effing simple.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
How do you capture assuming half? What do you like?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's painful to you? To get a shot? That's what
it is, getting a shot. How do you capture eleven
hundred deer? You have to do well? You don't do
it all together? No, no, I know, but still, I mean,
you still.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Capture a deer you identify.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I get it. You want to kill the deer. Gary
wants to kill the dear.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's their point.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's the quick They're going to move you off this mountain.
But it's not a good one to die on boo
bring Deborah, did you hear that that Gary wants to
did you hear about how Gary wants to kill two
thousand deer?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know in harmony?
Speaker 11 (30:37):
No, that is Shannon. Yeah, one agree with you.
Speaker 12 (30:41):
In fact, John and I have talked about this story
many times on his show, and I say exactly what
you have said. It is so stupid beyond thank you, Deborah,
You're welcome.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Nice to have somebody with sense on.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Yes, right, I'm so glad that you have sense as well.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And you were right, Deborah, you are right. You know,
let's get an army of fairies.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I mean, like Shannon, you were right about the government shutdown.
By the way you said when the government shut down,
I think a day before the government shut down that
it would come down to air traffic control being an issue.
And look at where we are now. I know prescient.
Deborah's prescient.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
At least somebody around here appreciates I do.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thank I do.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
All Right, we'll see how many Gary, dear Gary kills
in the break.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Gary, I don't like you anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, I think We're both done, ladies.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, the big news today is that an uber driver
twenty nine years old has been arrested in Florida for
starting the January first fire that became the January seventh
deadly fire that wiped out Pacific Palisades, killed twelve people
in the process. Michael Monks from KFI News was there
at the press conference this morning, joins us and I
would imagine Michael, that fire science is going to play
(01:20):
a significant role in the evidence presented to a grand jury,
a federal grand jury in this case of connecting that
January first Front fire to what happened on January seventh.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
In fact, we got a little taste of that as
the press conference was starting to conclude. I know we
were carrying that live here on KFI, but for folks
who might have missed it, Special Agent in charge of
the ATF here in La Kenny Cooper, he started to
dive into a little bit of that, and he's explaining
the way that these types of investigations work. This was
a massive fire, and massive isn't even the right word
(01:55):
for it. It was totally destructive and deadly as well. They
brought in ton of resources to investigate. We're eight months
removed from this fire and only now are they making
a formal arrest, and that is because of the amount
of evidence that not only were they able to collect
from this, suspect Jonathan rendernecked digitally his own digital trail,
(02:17):
his own physical trail. The ATF had folks on their
hands and knees on the ground searching for what physical
evidence could still be attained here. So yes, I can
tell if today's remarks by Special Agent in Charge of
the ATF, Kenny Cooper here in Los Angeles or any
indication fire science is certainly going to play a significant
(02:38):
role in the prosecution as they explain how this fire
was started, how it was initially suppressed, and how it
re emerged when the Santa Ana Wins came and ultimately
claimed so much of the palisades.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, there's a lot in that criminal complaint.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We're going to be checking back in with Michael throughout
the course of the day as we get some more information. Again,
the guy is expected in court in floor at a
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
As a matter of fact, Thanks Michael, appreciate it. You
got it. Michael Monk's there with KFI News.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
It's so nice to have reporters out of the big stories.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Feels good.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It feels like we got our finger on the pulse.
All right, there was that massive explosion in El segundo
that happened?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
My goodness, when was that Thursday night? Friday morning? Right?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
The explosion that led to the fire turned into or
at the Chevron elsa goodo plant that has turned into
a jet fuel processing unit in that sprawling oil refinery
there that you can see from the freeway. Chevron officials
have said little about what happened, but they have confirmed
(03:45):
that the ISOMAX unit and that's what converts oil into
jet fuel, remains shuddered. So probably a problem with the
isomax unit.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
The ISOMAX unit converts the products like jet fuel still
close the refinery.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Fires are not unheard of.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
In fact, if you deal with extremely flammable liquids on
a regular basis, you know that this is coming. And
in fact, Chevron has an on site firefighting team that
does nothing but train for this sort of thing. But
they're saying that this one was out of the ordinary
when it comes to the kinds of fires that they see,
(04:26):
that this one was much larger than they usually trained for.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Pretty much best case scenario here. The people who study
these types of explosions and what lead to them say
Chevron has been extremely extremely lucky given the size in
terms of any sort of fallout. Andrew Lippou is president
of the consulting firm lip Out Oil Associates in Houston.
He says that usually these kinds of things equipment failures.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, it's usually hot oil and gas reached the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You can't do that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Finds an ignition, source fire results and in this case
a quick fire ends up being basically the explosion.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
A human factor could be maybe operator error. Organizational factors
will be called into question, corporate decisions like if there's
not enough training or staffing, tech failures that can lead
to those equipment failures like corrosion. They mentioned the twenty
fifteen explosion at Exon Mobiles Torrents refinery where they found
(05:26):
a combination of all of this. I have a quick
personal note, Oh, you have an explosion you want to
tell us about that happened this morning.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So that wasn't a note. Well, it wasn't this morning,
it was long ago. Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But while I was working in Seattle as a reporter,
there was a fire at explosion and a fire at
a refinery in Bellingham. And my parents had come to
visit us for Thanksgiving, and my dad went with me
to the conference late. It was the night before thanks
(06:03):
It was Wednesday night, I think before Thanksgiving, and we
drove I was in a rental car at the time
because my car had been stolen. Long story. And we
drove to Bellingham and he's telling me everything he knows
about oil refining, which isn't a whole lot, but a
lot more than I knew because he's a chemical.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He was a chemical.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He was a chemist and a physical scientist, so he
knew a lot of what was going on, but I
had no clue.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So by the time I get.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
To Sarah Pumpkin of Pumpkin, So by the time we
get to this news conference, I'm afraid, like I'm gonna
have to tell hey, Dad, you can't come in the room,
the conference room because you don't have any credentials or anything.
And I didn't say a word, but I was afraid
that he was going to have to wait outside. He
just walked right in with me. So we sat there
in this news conference. I'm asking the questions, doing the
(06:51):
reporter thing, and blah blah blah blah blah. That was
one of the greatest times because he's like, that's what
you do for a job.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I mean, he wasn't that. It was a great I
love that story.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And I remember thinking, well, he's gonna go Why would
he want to go watch me sit in a news conference?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I always have a soft spot in my heart for
Refinery Fire totally.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I love that because so often, you know, kids don't
know what their parents do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Parents don't know what their kids.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I remember going to work with my mom and having
a new respect for her, knowing that she was this
boss in the hospital, And how cool is that. Not
just somebody who's you know, bitching at you at home,
you know, or whatever, but you know.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Your parents, everybody to clean their room, but.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
The parents the same thing. Your parents don't really know
what you do. So for them to see you in
action is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And something that he's interested in too, Yeah, that he
could he could help me figure out. Yeah, you know,
when they're talking about stuff, especially the night or the
drive home, it's still you know, an hour and a
half or two hours in the car on the way home.
He was able to explain to me what they were
talking about. And the difference between cochers, I think is
the word and corkers and corkers all of these different
(08:03):
things that went into the process of refining oil into gasoline.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So that was good.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Katie Porter. Katie Porter may have stepped on her own
dress here. She does not look good in this latest
interview you thank you address?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Was she?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Uh? Yeah.
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out of Florida has been arrested in charge with starting
the Palisades fire. He is due in court at the
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The California gubernatorial candidate ernatorial former representative Katie Porter, and
she is the front run runner in that race, has
tried to end an interview with a reporter after she
was asked what she would say to voters in California
who voted for President Trump. Now she before we play
it for you, just be on guard because she is
(09:42):
she gets very combative. I think we should set the
scene for the interview optics. Sure, the reporter and Katie
Porter arened a knee, the chairs are so that they
are face to face. It's a pretty common interview shot
of you're pretty close to the person. That's why I
say need a knee picture, two chairs facing each other,
need any for that close shot. They're in a control room,
(10:05):
so imagine them in front of a board with a
lot of buttons and a lot of screens behind them.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Uh yeah, like a production room. Like a production room.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And Katie Porter is lit very poorly, one harsh light
from above.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It seems like it's the only light in the room.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Her people should be fired to agreeing to the lighting period.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It looked like an interrogation set up.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Her people should also be fired for the unflattering and
I'll say it because I'm a woman. Unflattering dress they
put her in for this shot. No one is going
to look good in that dress. No one. It is
an It just you need a certain kind of dress
(10:47):
with infrastructure when you're running for office, you know something.
Maybe it gets called boxy a lot, boxy blazers, whatever,
there's a reason boxy is safe and it looks good
on camera. And so oh, anyway, that is the scene.
The angle is at you are looking at them from
the side, so they're face to face and you're looking
(11:08):
at them head on, so it's the both of their sides.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's also Julie Watts is the reporter, and she was
asking all of the candidates for governor, at least the
ones that would sit for the interview. A series of questions,
including questions about Prop fifty coming up for redistricting. And
that's what Katie Porter was talking about. When this question
comes up about getting the support of Trump voters in California.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Man?
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty all everybody
who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That's what you're in a general election.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yes, okay, there's two things that happened in that just
in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
There there's so much here.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes, Katie Porter first of is surprised by the question,
like she didn't quite understand it, and does this thing.
You can tell because there's I think it's a three
camera setup. The the camera where you can see both
Katie Porter and the reporter. Uh, she does this thing
where she goes, uh, why would I want?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Why would I need?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
The And then and then looks at whoever is with her,
like Katie Porter's people, and looks like, can.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You believe this jick asking me this dumb quoin?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like the reporter just slapped her baby. That highlights to
me a couple things the way you said. She acts
like she didn't understand the question. She can't believe she
was asked a question that, in my opinion, is the
problem with the Democratic Party to act so affronted that
you would ever have to make somebody voted for Trump happy.
(12:51):
I don't want any of those people. If those people
didn't everyone learn from Hillary Clinton in her downfall when
she called that population the deplorables. To continue that mindset,
does you no favors even in a state like California.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's a bad look.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You look like an a hole that you just don't
care for people that don't agree with you politically. Why
wouldn't you use that opportunity? And you know what, Gavin
Newsom does a great job at this. I will hand
him this trophy. He does a great job of, at
the very least, pretending to care what Republican voters want
and think and the way they vote, why.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
They vote the way they do. He's at least playing
that game.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Playing the game. And you know what, I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I love that because at least he's admitting there's a
problem with the Democratic Party and why has it failed?
And if you don't think it has, well, look who's
back in the White House, Look who has control of Congress.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You're failing. It's a simple miss a misdiagnosis. Not everybody
who voted for Trump really loves that guy. No, not
everybody who voted for Trump is a Republican. They just
got so sick, and some of them, not all, some
of them got so sick and tired about the way
the Democratic Party was working that they said, I'd rather
(14:08):
go with the evil that I know than the evil
I don't know. Or I have a better idea of
what would happen under a second Trump presidency, then I
have an idea of what would happen to Rakamala Harris presidency.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Why wouldn't you take that opportunity, as Katie Porter in
that seat, to say, you know what, I would.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Like to get the votes of people that voted for Trump.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I would love to take the opportunity to reach out
the way Gavin Newsom's doing. Why wouldn't you take that
opportunity to show solidarity with another California Democrat whos seeking
higher office and not slap forty percent of the state
of California right in the face.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And she does a little bit later in the interview
kind of change her tune a little bit on that,
and we'll play some more of it for you when
we could, because we haven't even gotten to the good parts.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah. I can't even handle this. I don't even want
to do this.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, hands up on the front and I'm triggered she
didn't say you hand it to that reporter for not
losing it. I would not have handled that as well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Kudos to Julie Watts. Yeah, friend of the show. Now,
by the way, is it she's been on our show? No,
But I'm just saying she's giving her kudos for the
way she handled it. I think we maybe she doesn't
want to be friends with us. Probably not.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
All of that counts. It doesn't matter what I think
of Katie Porter's dress or anything. All of that counts.
The optics of why you have to look the part
on the trail, I mean timely reference. But just ask Nixon,
you just go back to the first presidential debate in
nineteen sixty when the world fell in love with JFK.
(15:40):
Because the way he looked it all counts in an election.
It doesn't matter what the election is. For optics count.
You don't have to be a beauty pageant winner, but
you have to be presentable, and that's not what's presented
in this interview.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It is a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, I like to think I would be above
of choosing a political candidate based on looks. But it
does have some There is something to it.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I mean there is.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
We're just we're sometimes big dumb animals that rely on
our eyeballs more than our brains to make decisions.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Even if we.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Think it doesn't count for us or it doesn't matter, somewhere,
it does a little bit, even a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Hey, Gary Shanon Tyler from Santa Monica.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Hey Tyler, I definitely think Katie Porter turned into a
pumpkin during that interview.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh interesting, I'm sure you do too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We were talking about pumpkin and how the history of
the word pumpkin and used as a nickname. It's not
it wasn't always a nice nickname, A little pumpkin, Hey, pumpkin.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It was actually really bad.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
If you were a stupid person, if you were full
of yourself, you were called a pumpkin back in you know,
the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Katie Porter president governor's candidate for the Democratic Party looking
for the nomination, and she was interviewed by Julie Watts
out of CBS News in Sacramento.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
How would I need them in order to win? Man?
Speaker 9 (17:10):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty all everybody
who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it
is me versus a Republican, I think that I will
win the people who did not vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What if it's you versus another Democrat? I don't intend
that to be the case.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Okay, that doesn't make sense because we have now we
have a top two primary. Excuse me here in California,
and we've seen repeatedly since we've had a top two
primary that the top two vote getters in the primary
are Democrats. So we have Democrats running against Democrats very
often in these in these races.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So far, one memo she did not get was the
memo that it's a bad look for you to slap
people who voted for Trump in the face.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Democrats hate to think that they want anything to do
with Trump, and they certainly don't want those votes.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
But you should want them if you're running.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The other memo she did not get was we are
so done as a country with the smug politician who
thinks that they're better, or that their war chest is
big enough, or that they are going to roll over
whoever they're going to face in the primary, what have you.
Even if that's the case, smug, We're done with it.
We are done and done and done with it. It
(18:31):
worked for Barack Obama in o wait hell, he was
a great speaker, smug as hell. It worked for him.
But it worked for Barack Obama. It doesn't work for you,
Katie Porter.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Do you? Are you going to ask them not to run?
Speaker 10 (18:46):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But let me be clear with you. I represented Orange County.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
I represented a I have stood on my own two
feet and one Republican votes before. That's not something every
candidate in this race can say. If you're from a
deep blue area, if you're from LA or you're from Oakland,
you don't have an.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Experien You just said you don't need those Trump voters, so.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
You asked me if I need them to win. You
don't feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I feel she is projecting there because her first answer
there about I read Orange County, and she's being combative
where it was unnecessarily needed.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
She's the one who contradicted herself, yes, and then this
whole thing, and again, the visuals on this are pretty good,
but she says this line that just destroyed me.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
You don't I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. She's literally talking
to a reporter. You have to expect that you're going
to be receiving questions from a reporter. Hopefully that's the
way reporters supposed to do their jobs. If you make
a contradictory statement like that, it's Julie Watts's job to
go hold on a second. At first, you're gonna win
(20:01):
without their support, and then you're saying I'm the only
one in the race who can win their support.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Katie Porter's been playing in the pool of Democrats for
far too long where everyone's babying her and she can
do no wrong because she's a Democrat in California. She
faces a little bit of pushback and she freaking crumbles.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Exactly so the shels on.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The thing that bothers you the most about that part,
I would argue, and you can stop me if I'm wrong,
is that she raises her hands and puts them in
the reporter's face in a what kind of motion would
this be?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like she's pushing, and she's pushing.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
She both hands in between and remember their need and
need they're very close. Katie Porter raises her pause and
pushes them towards that reporter and it's way aggressive. You
think she sounds combative and aggressive. The hand motion is
almost threatening.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Again, reported Julie Watts did a great job like.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
This is a necessarily argumentative is.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power graph.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Every other candidate has answered this question.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
This is not, and I said, I support it.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?
Speaker 10 (21:20):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer questions for the question is you haven't
written and all answer?
Speaker 9 (21:27):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win? And you're saying no, you don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote
I can.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
You should start to say that well to those voters.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing someone getting.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
So frustrated, And that's the first interview.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Where you're going to do the interview with I'm not
like this. I'm not not with seven follow ups to
every single question you ask.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So she's literally she's she's looking at her people like
I think, and here we are.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Now the other people in the race are immediately picking
up on this. Javiosara, who is currently running third in
the polling, says I would never want to exclude a voter.
That's what you should say an Tonio Viragosa has said,
we need a leader who's going to solve hard problems.
All of these people are now they realize she completely
(22:20):
blew this interview, completely blew it. Now, she probably never
expected that this is something that goes viral or that
people watch because.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
She that's how she behaves behind closed doors, and that's
something you should know.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
She should listen. If I'm Katie Porters.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
And all the money money went to her, all the.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Money, If I'm Katie Porter's campaign manager, I say, hey, listen,
you need to get out there and get in front
of this and say I was having a bad day.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I didn't think of it. I understood the question.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
You got to all how bad days I screwed up.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
This would be a perfect like I was saying yesterday,
I want a politician to It would be so refreshing
for them to take accountability. For Katie Porter to come
out and be like, I screwed up. I came across
a total b and I apologize to that reporter. This is,
in hindsight, what a ridiculous answer. Of course, I want
those voters. I want to know what matters to them.
(23:15):
If I can get them to play on my team
one hundred and ten percent. I will reach out and
talk to them and find out what I need to
do to get that vote. I that would go so
far in my book as an independent. Yeah, but it's
not gonna happen, is.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It all right?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Up next, hunting from Helicopters may go by the wayside.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 6 (23:43):
Justin Worsham is coming in in the eleven o'clock hours.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
What a smiley Wednesday shift.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I love it when Justin comes in. He is such
a delight and we're going to talk about parenting.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Even in the worst I mean we've we've been with
Justin for years. Yeah, and he's had sad things happen
in his life. He still comes in and is happy.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Hey, he's just a delightful person to be around.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
He has a gift.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And it's such a nice never mind, I don't need
to say something mean to you to to to make
yourself feel better about I was gonna I was just
gonna occur the highlight.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What a delight he is to be around.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Like your turtleneck do you. I'm very big into turtlenecks
to you know, cover up.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, I wasn't talking about your shirt.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
There is a uh, I don't even get like you
can't see.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
But you're about to launch a salvo against me, and
I I shot first.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I feel like a turtleneck is more like a penis thing?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, okay? Anyway?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Your time out?
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Homeless?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What? Oh dear right? I think I know what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
This month, the californ on the Island Conservancy has announced
a plan to get rid of the non native deer
population on Santa Catalina Islands.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I had not even heard that there was a
plan to shoot the deer from the sky. Oh yeah,
And I certainly wasn't understanding that they had changed that
plan to now shoot them from the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, last year the Conservancy was planning to shoot deer
from helicopters. Everybody got pissed at that. That's awful. Why
that's different from shooting them from the ground.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's exactly my point. How does that make it better?
They say that deer, why why shoot them at all?
You're asking same? They say that the deer heightened the
wildfire risk by eating the native vegetation, to which I say,
why don't you just relocate them? Send in a ferry
loaded up with deer, two thousand deer, move them into
(25:56):
my neighborhood. We've got plenty of deer, whether deer or wonderful.
They are plentiful. They live off of the land. It's
it's great. Bring me the deer.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I think you'd better be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You cannot have people going in there and shooting deer
on Catalina. This is not uh, you know, Yellowstone. This
is not an area where people are used to animals
being shot. It's just it. It's it's not going to
go over well. Ever, no matter how you take out
the deer, it is going to be a mess.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Would you rather poison them?
Speaker 7 (26:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I would relocate them. Why can't you relocate them?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I do think it's cost prohibitive to relocate them, two.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Thousand of them. I don't care. They're not hamsters.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I don't care. You know what, where's private money for this?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
What is that? What? Oh? To relocate? Yeah, private relocation.
We built the freaking bridge.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
We built the wildlife bridge over the one one.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
La County Fire chief pushes back on the notion that
the deer actually pose a fire hazard. He actually told
supervisor Janis Han this is in her district, that he
believes they mitigate fire risks by eating vegetation, and the
supervisor then said the Conservancy should attempt should attempt every
possible alternative before resorting to eradication. So you and Janis
(27:24):
Hahn agree that you should do something else. The Conservancy
says it has considered and ruled out all of those
different options except sterilization, which they said could be used
for some deer around the city of Avalon. Mule deer
were brought in back in the twenties as a.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
For hunters.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Basically, it would you could go out to Catalina and hunt.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Why wasn't sterilization considered. I don't know what the lifespan
of a deer is, but why are you just now
getting to that solution as opposed to seeing this being
a problem down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well they used to do or they still do. They
do recreationally allow hunters to go out to Katalena and
kill deer, but there's not enough of them and they're
not doing enough to curb the population. They're bringing in professional.
I know, I know you are, and I don't know
the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That's why they're done, just because they're dumb and they
didn't think about it. Well, I don't know if it's
that they didn't think about it. How do you sterilize
a deer? Well, it can be done. How Well, if
it's an option, then it's something that's done.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean, do you walk up to the deer and
give it a shot of depa program.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Not an animal science person have.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But if it's a if it's one of the solutions
that they're coming up with, now, it's clearly done. People
that are not too boobs in a radio studio know
how to sterilize an fing deer.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You know, I'm just saying, but maybe that's one of
those things that's also cost prohibitive.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
You know, if you're sterilizing the male.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
All I'm hearing is that you want to go shoot
deer on Catalina. You're like, sign me up, give me
all the rifles, all, take out all the deer. That's
all the words I hear coming out of it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I will be I'll say this, whoever these private contractors
are that get to go in and hunt two thousand
of these deer.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's a good job. It's a good job. You get
to camp on Catalina? Could you mad? What a beautiful
place to go camping.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Do you want me to tell you what Ai has
told me about sterilization a female deer and male deer?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, you wouldn't need to do both, right, Well, can
you choose who would you like?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let's sterilize the males?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Okay, males are captured and tagged with identifying markers. A
scarring agent is injected through the skin, forming a plug
that prevents sperm flow in the skin. The deer is
released without altering its behavior. Boom, that sounds pretty effing simple.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
How do you capture assuming half? What do you like?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's painful to you? To get a shot? That's what
it is, getting a shot. How do you capture eleven
hundred deer? You have to do well? You don't do
it all together? No, no, I know, but still, I mean,
you still.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Capture a deer you identify.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I get it. You want to kill the deer. Gary
wants to kill the dear.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's their point.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's the quick They're going to move you off this mountain.
But it's not a good one to die on boo
bring Deborah, did you hear that that Gary wants to
did you hear about how Gary wants to kill two
thousand deer?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You know in harmony?
Speaker 11 (30:37):
No, that is Shannon. Yeah, one agree with you.
Speaker 12 (30:41):
In fact, John and I have talked about this story
many times on his show, and I say exactly what
you have said. It is so stupid beyond thank you, Deborah,
You're welcome.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Nice to have somebody with sense on.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Yes, right, I'm so glad that you have sense as well.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And you were right, Deborah, you are right. You know,
let's get an army of fairies.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I mean, like Shannon, you were right about the government shutdown.
By the way you said when the government shut down,
I think a day before the government shut down that
it would come down to air traffic control being an issue.
And look at where we are now. I know prescient.
Deborah's prescient.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
At least somebody around here appreciates I do.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Thank I do.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
I appreciate that, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
All Right, we'll see how many Gary, dear Gary kills
in the break.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
Gary, I don't like you anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, I think We're both done, ladies.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
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