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August 19, 2025 31 mins
LA’s Worst Freeways / LA Can’t Back Out of Olympics / Menednez Bros.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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the night of the murders inside that house. The stuff
they've found on his phone shows that he is truly
like American psycho naked women. Just tons of treasure, trove
of horror, essentially. We'll tell you about it coming up afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
President Trump has called President Putin and started to try
to arrange a trilateral meeting between himself.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Excuse me, excuse.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Me, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
We call that the.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Trylat trylat zen Zelenski and Trump met with European leaders
yesterday at the White House to try to get some
of these multilateral talks, not just the trilats, but the
multi lats also. Hamas has apparently accepted a proposal for
a temporary ceasefire, although it rejected a proposition that would

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end the war if they returned all the Israeli hostages
and gave over control of Gaza to an interternational force.
This is the same basic agreement that had been offered
by Israel back in July. Despite the appearance of progress,
still stuck, so we don't know exactly what's going on.
And then millions of people being urged to get ready

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for Hurricane Erin as she gets ready to skirt along
the east coast. The storm is not expected to make landfall,
but from South Carolina all the way up through Massachusetts,
New York, New Jersey, they are facing significant coastal threats.
Some islands in North Carolina outer banks, for example, have
been evacuated in many cases. Flood warnings in effect for

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parts of Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina. As much
as seven inches of rain expected because of the hurricane.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
There are several freeways around southern California where you're stuck there.
There's no way out. You don't know how long it's
gonna be. You're praying for three i at lists to strike.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Is it the four h five southbound rush hour? Is
it morning drive through the Supulvita Pass? Is it the
ten going from East LA to the west Side. Oh
my god, I just got a little a three iye
at list, Please hit me now vibe thinking about.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
That one pray to the comet. I don't know if
that's the week.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm not praying, I'm just summoning it.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Please.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
The LA Times looked at several different factors. Average speed,
which would be the number of vehicle miles of travel
divided by vehicle hours of travel delays, the vehicle hours
of delay below sixty miles an hour, total hours the
drivers would have saved had they been moving at sixty plus.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I would argue, thank you, the fifty seven sixty disaster
that exists, not even in rush hour, just should be
taken out immediately by.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
The coffee in the morning.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Lost productivity, they say, the lost hours of work because
the slowdowns, assuming the sixty miles an hours would be
the best case. And then they also looked at the
number of fatal crashes on a road in a given
year and then adjusted for the length of the actual roadway.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
The ninety one out there in the afternoon on a Friday,
stick a fork in me everywhere till I bleed out.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
There is now this is gonna I know this is
going to cause people to kind of shudder, because you're right,
there is a physical there is a tactile response to
these numbers when I call them out. Okay, but this
goes from best to worst. Oh, okay, from best to worse.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Start feeling.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Start with a little bit of like, oh, you know,
it's not so bad. I'm nice again. I haven't seen
you in a month. Number one is the state route
to sixty one. Okay, the two sixty one toll road.
It's short, yeah, six miles. God, I'm feeling free.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
The ninety freeway.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
The ninety freeway is for Marina del Rata.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
That is six seconds and ps I used to live
in Marina Delray. If there's a problem on the ninety,
you're aft. So I would take that off the top
of the list because if there is no ninety, you
got to go through Venice. But you don't know until
you're at the mess of the ninety, and then there's
no way out.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Two forty one, yeah, or Ranchers Santa Margarine.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I feel free out there.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
On six from Ventury to Santa Clarita. Yes, I just
drove that on Saturday. Beautiful, isn't it beautiful? I love
that road. Some times, if you're going through Fillmore, for example,
you want to go through the neighborhoods to avoid the
stop lights because it can get bad. But for the
most part that's not difficult.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
No, I love it. I love It's just.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Why it's high eye that the fifteen freeway from San
Diego to this to the Nevada border. Okay, yeah, not
a lot de Ending on the time of day we're doing,
that fifteen from from the state line into Vegas can
be awful. That's why it stops at the Nevada border there.
State Route seventy three from one Capistron in a custamation.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Good, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
The one eighteen that goes from Ventura over to lake
View Terrace. Stay Route seventy one Corona to Pomona. The
one seventy.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Seventy one, isn't that the one though? That's like a
road where there's just stop. It's like a road, not
a highway. Yes, it hasn't evolved, and that can be
a real nightmare.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
State Route one seventy right here in the valley from
Toluca Lake to Sun Valley.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Okay, that's not real.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
It's I mean, I know it's real, but that's not
like a freeway like that's like, oh, it's very much
a freeway.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
It's just that it's like a little baby artery.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, it's definitely a It takes a lot of the
pressure off the four or five in the five. Right,
The five freeway is number ten on this list, and
again we're getting through the.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Top twenty five.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Five is number ten.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
From Santa Clarita down to San Clemente. What are you
even talking about? The five isn't the worst, it's not.
The five is not the worst. The five from Santa
Clarita to San Clementy. Have they gone to the citadel?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Have they sat on the five through East La.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
It actually has one of the highest rates of fatalities.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, because people kill themselves.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, I don't think that's why.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
State Route one, thirty four, State Route twenty two, the
one oh five, the two ten, the two point fifteen,
the one oh one, and we're getting into it now.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
So this is going to be the top top ten.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
State Route fifty five, the sixty, the Pomona Freeway, the
fifty seven, the Orange Freeway, the one ten, and here
we go, top five, one.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Ten is the stupidest freeway. Let's put a freeway through
the center of downtown. Brilliant gone the seven ten. Yeah,
that's it. That's just trucks. It's all trucks going to
the port.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
The ninety one, of course, the Riverside Freeway, Yeah, the
four oh five, yeah, is number three.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
The six oh five is number two.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I like the six over and the worst freeway in
southern California.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's got to be the ten.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's got to be the ten because all those tree.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
There's all the hospitals out there on the west side.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
So you got to go ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So you got all the staff that are going to
and fro all day long, really, and it's just a
parking lot.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
It's you're not moving. It says, get off on.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Washington, get off on Jefferson. You're still stuck.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Forty six point eight nightmarish miles from.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
The ocean through the Oh it's awful.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Let us know what you think is the absolute worst
stretch of freeway in southern California. Leave us a talk back.
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It leaves us a message.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
When we had a work event at the what's the
West Side Mall there along the Century City Mall, we
had a work event there and in the middle of
the afternoon, and all I could think about all day
was I'm going to be on the ten at about
five forever. So I'm on the ten for the remainder
of the evening. Then if I'm on the ten at

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five pm, I'm on the ten at seven pm.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
You might as well just celebrate.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I live on the ten.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Now. You wouldn't be the only one.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, I would not.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (08:28):
I see in about an hour we have a wellness segment.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
You were just talking about your mozzarella sticks. I was
it might be the cause of your bad dreams.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
So I haven't had a mozzarella stick in a while,
and I haven't had a while.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You mean like six eight hours or like six eight weeks.
You just said a while. You have a better parameter
than that.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Do you want to call the family and say goodbye now?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Or you probably encourage it.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
We are going to be talking about cheese nightmares coming up,
but also heart variability.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I didn't know that that was a thing that all
of these new tracker things your rings and your watches
and your whoops and stuff like that. Can watch, but
apparently it's really important to your well being.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Heart rate very I know a couple of people who
have gone to the hospital because their eye watches is
that what they're called, Apple watch Apple watches have told
them to.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I don't think that's bad. I mean we've said this before.
When it comes to these trackers, it can be too
much information. Like you can get a little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's the doctor say. They say, listen your heart and listen.
I'm not a doctor. Do not take this as medical
advice whatsoever, but the will say that your heart rate
has been doing weird stuff your whole life. It's just
now you know about it because you're a watch. So
it's a good idea to like get you know, if
your watch does tell you to know the doctor, probably

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a good idea to get one of those heart rate
monitors to see where you're at. But our heart rates
do crazy ass stuff our whole lives. There are peaks,
there are valleys there, and there are so many factors.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
That affected as well.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
We were talking about the twenty five worst freeways in
all of Southern California. The LA Times put it through
a metric and came up with the twenty five worst,
and the worst three freeways are the ten is the
absolute worst, behind that the six oh five, and then
right behind that the four oh five.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
Worst freeway the ninety one east. Just past the fifteen
as you head into Riverside, it will rattle your boat.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
I love you, guys, No love you.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's very nice to say. We get a lot of
love from people.

Speaker 9 (11:01):
Hey, Garyan Shannon, Brian from Corona here.

Speaker 10 (11:03):
I grew up actually, and am going to cal State Northridge,
so I'm familiar with the valley.

Speaker 9 (11:08):
But since I moved out here.

Speaker 10 (11:11):
Ninety one Freeway eastbound especially is always horrible.

Speaker 9 (11:15):
Between We're Canyon and Green River.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
And in twenty twelve I had a motorcycle accident right
there because somebody changed lanes in middle of traffic, et cetera.

Speaker 9 (11:24):
Changed my life.

Speaker 10 (11:24):
And they just had another accident right there between We're
Canyon and Green River.

Speaker 9 (11:27):
And I'm not the only one, and it's horrible.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I would just like to say that four wheels drive
the body, but two wheels drive the soul.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
That was a message for him.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Still clothing naked gun.

Speaker 11 (11:39):
Yeah, Hey Garyan Shannon, this is Donovan from the High Desert.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
And one of the worst freeways.

Speaker 11 (11:46):
Is the fifteen through the Kahom Pass, especially during the
weekends with the Vegas traffic. Yeah, there's never ending construction
and a ton of fatal accidents. So that's I vote for.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
When is the worst?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, that can be a that's another place. Nowhere to go? Like,
nowhere to go? What are you going to do? You
can't take an alter an alternate route.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You just want to drive through the desert at that point,
don't you. Yeah, I just want to.

Speaker 12 (12:14):
Hey guys, Michael from Noroco. Hey, Mike Shannon, you said
it right. The ninety one parking lot. It's twenty four
to seven both ways. And I liked how you said
about just stick me with a fork so many times
I wanted to do that before I retired as a driver.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
All Right, guys, love the show the Fork and all
the places. I think it's you.

Speaker 10 (12:39):
Yeah, the worst freeway to drive first thing in the morning,
if you're not leaving early.

Speaker 9 (12:44):
The fifty seven.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
South bout Yeah southbound. Yeah, those freeways suck.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yes, I hate the fifty seven.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
You're just you're just a captive.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
You're like Captain Phillips with Somali pirates.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
And the Somali pirates are the freeway.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yes, and all the dumbass people that surround you doing
dumbass stuff in their cars.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
Hey, this is Aaron from anahe I'm calling in. I
don't travel to the West Side very often, but what
I do travel is the OC out to the Ie
and I swear the ninety one Kramer Glassel two three
River will be the death of me one day.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
Heavens to Betsy.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Evans to Betsy. Where did that phrase come from? Let's
find out, Betsy. How many famous Betsy's are there? That
it would be Betsy Ross, Betsy Johnson, Betsy.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Johnson, Biggs.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Of course I came seeing I live in the OC.
I'm going with the fifty seven, especially when you get
down where the fifty seven meets to sixty.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
Ye. Yes, if you're.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
On that past like two o'clock in the afternoon, you're done.
That is the worst buildup of traffic ever. No, thank you,
and I'll be there tomorrow, I mean Thursday at the
News of Bruce.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Thank you, We see you there.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
The origin of the phrase Heaven's to Betsy is unknown,
but it's up there with Heaven's sake. It was first
appearing in print around eighteen fifty seven. Some have speculated
about connections to Betsy Ross or a rifle named Old Betsy,
but no evidence for either one of those.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Most people believe.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's a euphemism for Heaven's sake or Hell's bells to
avoid any sort of blasphemy exclamations like God or Christ.
You know, for Heaven's sake, for Christ's you know they'll
he'll bit you throw in Betsy, yesteer clear of the sacrilege.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
You clean it up a little bit, right. I guess okay.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I know that's I'm not satisfying. I want more too.
I want to know why Betsy, Why not Ruth? You know,
Heaven's to Ruth.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You could say it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
You could start it right now, ladies and gentlemen, a
new saying, Heavens to Ruth. All right, we will be
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
Since you are begging for it, we'll do your Jeopardy
question when we come back. Also get into why La
can't back out of the Olympics. Why aren't people trying
to pull your pants up? Gary, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Do hard things?

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Good for Yeah, put the cheese down.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Gary and Chennon will continue.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
A M six forty.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Don't forget to let us know your freeway problems. You
know which ones you love? Are that you probably none,
which ones you hate? Which ones you hate less?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Maybe the one on one between Santa Barbara and Santa
Maria right and goes along the right along the coast.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
You enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yes, you make that hard right turn, you go up
towards the the space for space at Vandenberg.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
That is beauty, beauty.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I enjoy a.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Lot of the drive to northern California, even when they're
nothing to look at and all you smell our cows.
I still enjoy it. It's the nothingness about it that
I enjoy. I like the nothing less clutter. I would
like your Jeopardy question, so we can get that clutter
out of the way. What's that idiom for six hundred dollars?

(17:19):
If you're green around these you're either a fish or
you look sick.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
What are your gills? That is right.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
I've never heard that you're green around the gills.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
My dad used to say that all look a little
green around the gills.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Oh, how funny. I've never known anyone to say that.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I don't know where it comes from. I don't know
where that fun is.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
I'll find out.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Did fish who were sick actually turn green around their gills?

Speaker 9 (17:48):
I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Baseball Reds beat the Angels last night four to one.
They'll play again six thirty eight. First pitch. Dodgers lost
to the Rockies in a walk off last night. It
looked like Colorado won the World Series. They were so
happy to end their ten game win streak with ay
walk off.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Weight against the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
The Dodgers looked like the Dodgers of old, and as
I read this morning booky Mookie Betts was Booky Mets.
Mookie Bets was called in to have a chat, a
sit down chat with Dave Roberts and Andy Friedman about
potentially moving to I don't know. I don't know what
was said, but the thought is that the meeting was
about him moving back to right because ta Oscar Hernandez,

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his e ft up in right field had a series
of f ups last night and it's not the first time.
So they've been talking about making some moves at Short
and Rite.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Potentially those same two teams will play against tonight in
Denver at five point forty.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Green the green and the gills, let's see.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
The phrase is thought to evolve from earlier German expressions
became popular in the mid eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
While fish have.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Gills for breathing, the idiom is not related to fish,
but rather describes the appearance of a person who is
un well. The usage dates back to the sixteen hundreds.
In fact, of course, the color green has long been
associated with illness and various cultures, but they believe it
evolved from earlier German expressions, possibly brought over by immigrants.

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The phrase green behind the ears, which refer to an
experience may have also influenced the evolution maybe green behind
the Where does that come from? Why are you green
behind the ears? That opens another can of worms, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Green worms?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
There have been some calls for LA to get out
of the Olympics business, to scuttle the current plans we
have for twenty twenty eight. Basically, there's people who believe
there's still time now if you want this place, this
place being LA greater Southern California, to have any shot

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at getting on the right track. I feel like the
Olympics are that opportunity because we're not putting out this
giant outlay of capital to build all kinds of arenas
and stadiums and venues that we're never going to use again.
A lot of them currently exist. A lot of the

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places that Olympics events would take place are already standing.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
We don't have to pay more money.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
We may have to do some refurbishing, maybe a little
bit of expansion, but you're not putting up an entire
arena or baseball diamond or track and field venue. You're
not doing that. They already exist. So that's the positive.
The other positive is a little bit of pressure might
be a good idea, a little bit of pressure on

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city and county and other municipal leaders to clean up
your s.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
The problem is is some people use the Olympics for
their own gain.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
You know, look no for other than the.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Thirty dollar minimum wage at hotels near the airport because
of the Olympics. The Olympics should be a time when
you're not focused on yourself or how can I get
out of this, or LA or the United States.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Really it's a global event.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
It's supposed to be cool because the whole world is
watching and it's in your backyard. It's supposed to be
this cool, we all come together moment, not like an
III me Me me moment. It's not supposed to be
a moment where you're using it to talk trash about
the fact that LA is a trash hole. It's supposed

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to be this moment that brings us all together and
where we can all just we want to look good
for the world in the country. We want all of
these things. We want people to be taken care of.
But we're so screwed up that it's just it's all
become finger pointing and s talking and how what can
I get out of it? But it's kind of we've

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ruined the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
So when did that change? I mean, in eighty four,
you and I obviously too young to remember it and
we weren't even here in La. But in eighty four,
I what I read about it, there was a sense
of community, there was a sense of.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Right, you know, and great.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Part of that may have been a reaction to the
nineteen eighty Olympics and that, you know, America was on
its feet and Reagan was president and America was great.
And I don't I just don't get that sense that
anybody wants to celebrate that pay totally. I'm with you,
and that's probably part of it. That, especially in a
place like LA that wants to pretend they're not part

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of a lot a lot of America. They want nothing
to do with this president. Maybe they don't want to
celebrate America. They don't want to be the place, which
is very sad. I think money plays a role.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I wasn't paying attention in nineteen eighty four, but did
money play as big of a role in the Olympics
and the rights to get the Olympics and how everyone
making money off of this thing?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, and eighty four was The first time they made
money was the first time.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
That was that the first time that they're like, ah,
we can make money off this thing.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Let's create a monster. Probably yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
They saw it then and then they just saw dollar
signs for the rest of their you know. And that's
one of the reasons why they started staggering the Winter
and Summer Olympics is because they were realizing, Hey, maybe
if we do this every two years, we could, you know,
squeeze a couple extra buckets out of this Ducats root
of all evil buckets of Ducats. Yeah, that works. Look

(23:47):
at listen, LA can't get out of it. I mean, arguably, yes, contract,
but it's a bad look you're paying if money is
an issue, right, if you're already saying because of the
fire and the Palisades and in Altadena and the facial
for homelessness, like all of these things, we're already behind
the eight ball when it comes to budget. The only

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way you're going to make any of that money back
is by putting on a great show.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Also, that's a hard thing to sell that California doesn't
have the money to put on the Olympics, right, come on,
it's loaded with money. There's nothing but money and they're
just mismanaging all of it.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
The Menendez Bros. Going before parole this week.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, we'll tell you what to expect, what it's all about.
When we return. Gary and Shannon will continue.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
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Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think it's because I had the cold that one
day and someone suggested to eat kiwis for vitamin C.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
And it's all coming back to me now, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
That they had more vitamin C than oranges and strata.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I was at the market and I saw some
kiwis and I grabbed them and I just had my
first kiwi in years, and my god, that was delicious.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Those are good fruits.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
So thank you to anyone or who the woman was
who called and told me to eat a kiwi.

Speaker 13 (25:14):
Hey, Gary, Shannon, good morning, Todd here from Nebraska now.
But I used to live in ox Nerd and I
used to have to drive through La down to Laguna
Woods in Orange County, finish up sometimes get back in
my car about three four o'clock in the afternoon, and
I would look at the drive home and think this
is just going to suck. Take me three and a

(25:35):
half hours to get back to Oxnard from Laguna Woods
up the four or five or the five. Sometimes going
across a ten to one.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Oh Man Man Oxnard to Laguna Woods.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Holy hell, you better love what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
He brings up a good point.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Sometimes, if you're in the car, you know your commute's
going to be a mess, if it's your usual commute,
if it's that time of day, what have you.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
And you get in the car and you're like, this
is suck.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Just like what he said, the worst traffic ever is
when you get in your car and it shows smooth sailing,
it shows green the whole way there. It's a highway
like the two sixty one or what have you. It's
something that is never an issue, and that day it's
an issue. Like when it's not a nightmare, you expect,

(26:24):
it is even worse. It's exponentially worse. If the traffic
is bad on the ten, Okay, you know it's gonna
be bad, you know what you're getting into. But when
it's bad, when it's supposed to be smooth sailing, let
me ask you this question.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
If you're driving to the Bay Area, would you rather
have traffic here or there, like at the beginning of
the trip stop and go or at the end of
the trip stop and go.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Neither. But I guess.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I guess at the end. I guess at the end
be so because I'm close and i know I'm almost there,
and yeah, and through the East Bay you do get
into some traffic. Yeah, but you always think to yourself,
for people always say, if you make this drive from
northern to southern California, oh, you're gonna get into that
East Bay traffic. Do you know how long that stretch is.

(27:16):
It's about two point four miles. Yeah, it is nothing.
So yes, you are going to get into some East
Bay traffic that lasts about twelve minutes. That's not relax,
that's not that's like baby traffic up there.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
The Menendez brothers is going to make their cases for
parole starting today after tomorrow. As a matter of fact,
Eric Menendez having his hearing Thursday morning. Lyle Menendez having
his hearing on Friday over video conference from their Correctional
FA sale the down in San Diego. They will be
in front of a panel of two or three parole

(27:53):
hearing officers from the Board of Commissioners that are appointed
by the governor.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
They will evaluate the.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Brothers individually whether or not Eric and Lyle pose an
unreasonable risk of danger to society if released. They'll consider
things like their criminal history, which is for the most
part clean outside of a couple of murders, motivation for
the crime, signs of remorse behavior while in prison, plans

(28:20):
for the future, and even if even if a board
grants parole for one or both of them, it could
be months before they actually get out.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
If you've ever had to get into the legal system,
you know that nothing is quick. There's all these response times.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
If the board grants each brother's parole, the Chief Legal
Council has one hundred and twenty days to review the
case and respond. Then Gavin Newsom has thirty days to
affirm or deny parole, and then the more papers need
to be filed, more papers need to be filled out.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Only then would they be able to leave prison.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
The Governor did order the Parole Board to conduct a
risk assessment of these guys in response to the clemency
request that was filed, and at the time he said
that the key question was whether or not they posed
that unreasonable risk to public safety.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
This sort of number one factor.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And he noted back in May, did Governor Newsom that
he has both approved and rejected decisions by the Parole
Board before, and that says that he is the ultimate arbiter.
So he's basically saying, I'm ordering this review. But that
doesn't mean anything because I could go, you know, with
the parole Board or against the parole Board.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, and remember, from what we heard, the Parole Board
doesn't love the idea that they're still lying about aspects
of this case, right.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
That's one of the things that they have.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
The Parole Board likes to see is some amount of remorse, acknowledgment,
et cetera.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yes, so we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Of course, Mark Garregos is playing a big role in
this because he is their lawyer. He tried to get
Eric out of jail, out of prison because of his
kidney stones.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
That's a tough ask.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
It did not work.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, he got out of prison long enough to
go to the hospital a couple of times, but he's
sitting on his kidney stones there at the Ronald J.
Donovan Correctional Facala day in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
All right, coming up next, it looks like a meeting
between Zelenski and Putin could be on the horizon, Switzerland
saying it will not arrest Putin if he goes there
for peace talks. We'll talk about all of that coming
up in Swamp Watch. Also cheese Nightmares on the Horizon
Heart variability which may keep you alive. We may keep

(30:44):
you alive in the eleven o'clock hour, We'll just say.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
That time to tune in.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
That's huge.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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