June 19, 2025 • 31 mins
President Trump turns up the heat on Iran with what he’s calling the "ultimate ultimatum," as the U.S. reportedly considers military strikes. Plus, a financial alarm bell—new projections show the Social Security retirement trust fund could be depleted in less than a decade, putting future benefits at risk. And in a major shakeup in the sports world, could the Buss family really be selling the Lakers? Reports say Dodgers owner Mark Walter is eyeing a $10 billion deal. Sports broadcasting legend Fred Roggin joins us to break it all down.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Should we make bets, like what time?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, like today or tomorrow. I believe it's going to
be overnight.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Tonight, overnight at our time or overnight over time. They're
about ten.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hours yeah, overnight our time. Okay, so middle of the
day attack, it doesn't make sense. Okay, So they're ten hours.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ahead, Tayor. I think Tehran, I think they do a
half hour thing. So Tehran, I do I think they're
I think they're do. No, that was a real thing
we got, but I think in Tehran right now it
is what would that be?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Seven thirty eight? Really? Yeah, seven thirty eight. I've never
heard of that actually being a thing. Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We got one of my brother's friends to believe that
Seattle was a half an hour difference years.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Ago, and he believed it for quite some day.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Then I was watching some of the baseball the baseballs,
and at seven forty five, at eight o'clock in Seattle,
the sun is still bright and shiny during the summertime,
so I would yes, I could easily fall for.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That seven thirty eight PM.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I guess I'll go with war tomorrow during.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Our show maybe okay, yeah, that would be just timing wise.
In the show, there is a lot going on in
terms of the the Iran Israel war that's now eight
days old. It seems like this attack today where Israel
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bombed a nuclear site and then Iran hit a hospital,
and it is not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Benjamint and Yahoo was outside that hospital.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And explained that this is going to cause Israel to
have a mass of retaliation.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
In this hospital. Their patients are immobile, they can't even move.
Right next to it. There's a children's ward, a baby's ward,
infants they targeted. They can give this nonsense that they're
targeting military sides. What military sides? I know all the
military sides in Israel. There is in a military side
here for miles and miles around.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He goes on to say that that we're not sorry
that we're not going to let is Iran. It's hard
to I don't want to have a hard time keeping
these two apart. They're not going to let Iran have
a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
They want to have nuclear terrorism, which will put the
entire world under nuclear blackmail, and they would use these weapons.
That's what the Atla Jamenai says that he would do.
He would use these weapons to wipe Zuel off the map. Well,
he's not going to We're not going to let him.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Trump delivered what they're calling an ultimate ultimatum to Iranian
leaders to dismantle the nuclear program. He spoke on the
South lound elne of the White House, saying that the
next week is going to be big, maintaining the argument
that Iranian officials are eager to negotiate, but then said
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after the Iranians reached out to him, he warned them
that it's very late to be talking, which makes me
believe all of the go flags are up or down,
up or down?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Up, they're waving yes, how about that? Maybe you could
go the ultimate, the ultimate ultimatum, Ultimate ultimatum.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
He is getting another National Security Council briefing today, as
you would expect, and their CBS was already reporting that
he has signed off on a plan, whatever that might be.
He just hasn't said go or nobody.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, it's a go. I would guess it's a go.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's up to the people on the ground when to
actually go They have to wait for the perfect timing. Right,
you think about going in and getting Osama bin Laden,
you give the order go ahead when the time is right,
I think is what how it works. Right, So now
it's up to the commanders on the ground of when
to strike.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's going to be sentcom that figures out when.
And we've got we know the military assets. We've talked
about it for the last several days. The American military
assets that have either been repositioned into areas in the
event that they're needed for defense, and even some of
those assets that are on the ground in some areas
have been moved out of the range of what would
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be Iranian missiles. So think Iraq and Syria, even Saudi
Arabia and places like that, where we might have warplanes,
fighter planes, whatever that would be military assets of ours,
we've moved them away from those things that would be
right within that the concentric circle that is the range
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of Iranian missiles.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes we have the bunker buster bomb right, and yes
we do have the B two's to drop that thirty
thousand massive ordnance penetrator, but it is not a piece
of cake getting it onto the target through teeth of
a sophisticated air defense system, as they point out in
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The Intelligencer, would be a complex and dangerous process. They
say taking out the deep bunker requires a very special
set of tools, of course, the being the B two
and that thirty thousand bomb. But you've got to go
in first soften the defenses. We've talked about the Israelis
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maybe going in and doing that kind of the laying
the foundation in terms of.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Boots on the ground.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, and your point that they have to disable some
of the air defenses. More so, they have said both
Net and Yahoo and Trump have said that we control
the skies that they do have no basically no air
defense system around tay On. But when you get into
those hardened facilities, that are the nuclear facilities, that has
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not disappeared completely.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So they said, inbound bombers like the B two's are
going to come in, unleash hell, then fly back out again.
Inbound bombers would be preceded and accompanied by fighter escorts
as well as electronic warfare aircraft like the EA eighteen
G Growler. They said that will jam Iranian air defense
radars and what they call a wild weasel aircraft that
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can detect and destroy those radars by throwing an air
to surface munition like a bomber a missile down the
radar's throat. So it's a whole cavalry of an air attack.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's not simple.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's very complex, and there's different layers of getting this
thing done and getting it done right again.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
The two big targets is Reel targeted the heavy water
reactor in the Arak Nuclear facility, and then Iran tarted
a hospital, the Soroka Hospital. There was actually an American
medical student who is nearby when that hospital was hit.
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We'll talk about that and hear his comments about what
he saw when that thing happened a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Also about forty thousand US service members in the Middle East,
what they're doing to prepare to defend themselves when and
if after we attack. It keeps saying when and if,
changing that to when.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
According to several different reports, the Dodgers are expected to
make an announcement today some sort of sweeping new initiative,
they say to assist communities that have been impacted by
immigration enforcement operating This is the.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Fact that they've done nothing about all of the protests.
They've remained quiet. They had the singer who came out
and sang the national anthem and Espanol, and she got
some heat. She said that she was told not to.
We don't really know where that was coming from, or
at least I haven't dug into it. So I apologize
for not but they've been pretty silent, and I was surprised.
(08:12):
I was when when it came out that she sang
in Spanish and then she was told not to. I thought, well,
why wouldn't she That's the perfect venue to show support
for the protests. The Dodgers seemed to be an organization
that have done so in the past. It was kind
of odd their silence on the matter considering their fan base.
But in the city, in everything, so I wonder what
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they're going to announce today. It's going to be something
in solidarity with the protesters, I would imagine, yeah, something.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm not sure I believe the entire narrative of what
the if she was.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Told me not to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, I don't think the Dodgers told her not.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't think the Dodgers would have told her not
to that would have been Brand's suicide.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But nobody was mad at her. That was the other
thing is nobody came to her and said, you're never
coming back. She said something like the probably never have
me back again, and the Dodgers like, why not, We've
loved it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Of course you can come back.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Dodger Stadium is known as a place to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The Air India crash. Remember from last week. The chairman
of the Air India airline said in an interview there
was a new engine attached to that airplane two months ago.
They're not saying that that's what caused it. They're saying
that's an anomaly. Perhaps that might lead them to some
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sort of information about what made that plane go down.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Do you know how often that happens that a plane
gets a new engine or is that odd? Is that
something that doesn't happen or is it well?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I would say, because the seven eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
In general is one of the newer airplanes, I wouldn't
think you'd have to replace.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Engines on those things very quickly.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know what that lifespain was.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm curious as to what that means. Knowing that anyway.
Space X, by the way, says a major anomaly was
responsible for causing it starship to explode during a routine test.
Video shows Ship thirty six erupting into a massive fireball
late yesterday. It was expected that Ship thirty six would
(10:14):
be used for the next Starship launch. The explosion happened
during what's called a static fire test. SpaceX said there
was a safety clear area in place around the site
and all personnel are safe and accounted for.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
After the thing blew up, Elon Musk took to Twitter
and wrote, just a scratch. I mean it turned into
confetti that rocket ship and he wrote just a scratch.
So we know that Israel has carried out strikes on
a couple of Iran's nuclear facilities. We know that they've
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gone after Natans and Ishfahan. Initially that they had also
said they hit the Boucher if you're keeping track at home,
the site of the only functioning nuclear power plant in Iran.
A spokesperson for the Israeli Defense Horses later on said
that that wasn't the case. The Iranians have struck the
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Soroka Medical Center in the southern Israeli city of Beersheba.
There are a couple of different videos that exist online
that you can see the impact of this. One of
the medical students in there was Judas Smith. He works
at the hospital. Wasn't in the hospital at the time,
but was nearby in his apartment and heard the air raidside.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
I mean my neighbor who is a doctor at Soroka
as well. We grabbed their stuff. We ran to the
shelter and I'll be honest, we didn't expect much to happen,
because usually the iron dome is very effective, but we
heard four very loud explosions, and even underground. I was underground,
you could tell that this is different. And the third explosion,
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I think I knew deep down that it had made
an impact in the city somewhere.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He said that shortly after, almost immediately, they were hold
go back to the hospital, we need your help.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Within I cidding, not in five seconds, my friend who
works in the er there and he's a doctor, he
received a phone call asking him to come in immediately
because the hospital had just been hit.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Amazingly, no one was killed in that strike. If you've
seen the damage from it, that is an amazing thing.
There were also reports that the wing of the hospital
that was actually hit by the missile that suffered the
direct hit had been evacuated just yesterday out of fear
that it was going to be a target.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A couple things like we have been preparing, so has Iran.
American intelligence officials believe Iran has already begun preparing missiles
and other weapons for retaliatory strikes against US service members
deployed to numerous bases in the Middle East that do
lie within range of Iranian missiles. The other thing that
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the experts are saying that even if the US air
strike against Foord, oh for example, is one hundred percent successful,
it doesn't wipe out the nuclear program forever.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
They say that they have too large of a community
of scientists that are dispersed across the country that they
have the requisite expertise to rebuild and rebuild deeper and
more hardened facilities. That's what they're saying. I just don't
know if they have the means to do so. I mean,
Iran is as weak as is as it has been
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for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think the Israelis and net and Yahoo had said
it yesterday, he would love it if they could stop today,
if the Iranian people rose up and cut the head
of the snake, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
If if you cut the head of the snake, you
get rid of the whole regime, then we're talking. But
just taking out the nuclear site is not enough to
stop the machine that is Iran's desire to have a
nuclear program. But want in one hand and crap in
the other, right, they could if they don't take out
the head of the snake, they could still want it,
but not have the means to rebuild it, at least
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not for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Pentagon says there are about forty thousand active duty troops
and Defensive Department civilians that are deployed in areas around
the Middle East that would potentially fall within the range
of in Iranian attack if in fact they decided to
target Americans.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
All right, coming up next, Well, we knew this was
going to happen before we retired. Social Security is running
out of money. More evidence that that's definitely happening, is
happening sooner than everyone thought. Great news for Lakers fans
with the Bus family selling Bus Family is great, But
that's just what they are. They're a family run shop.
And look at what Mark Walter has done for the Dodgers.
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Think about what's possible for the Lakers. We'll have Fred
Rogan coming on later in the hour to break it
all down for us.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
If you were asking why traffic was so light today,
there's a lot of people people, federal government, county state,
A lot of people do not have to go to
work today.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Now, is there a tradition that has been born already
for Juneteenth? In terms of what people do on this holiday?
There are grade is a grilling? Is it grilling? Because
it is all official?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Speaking of official, is summer start tomorrow or the twenty first?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I always get that confused. Twenty third tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It is seven pm, ah tomorrow at seven forty two pm,
and then football starts in six weeks at five pm.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's not New Year's Day, it's not Thanksgiving or Christmas
or Easter.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's football season.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How come you just left this postcard flapping in the
wind out there? We got a postcard sent to us.
Somebody took the time to get us a beautiful postcard
featuring Riverside, California, right, and you just left it out
in the common area, and luckily I and rescued it. Okay,
to give it the love it so deserves. Love a way,
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Dear Gary and Shannon, I really like your show.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I really like that show.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Question why do weather forecast stick with the term triple
digits for any and all tempts above one hundred degrees
in the ie?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Is their hack?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I work at an Amazon warehouse in sam Bernardino, and
it makes a difference if it's one hundred and two
or one hundred and eight, as the higher heat is
harder on the human body. Also, I miss Obama, that's
what he put in there.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You have to do with temperatures over there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know, but it's a good, good point you
make here, mister Sutton. It does make a difference between
one hundred and two and one oh eight, A big difference.
One hundred and two I'll be like, all right, I'll
go I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
One hundred and eight.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm like, yeah, that's hospital land, that's hospital territory. I'll
take the day off or what have you. Yeah, that'll
put you in a hospital if you're working. I know,
it's been a while since you've actually done work.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Whether you had to work inside, but like if you
are taxing your body, if you're working in a warehouse
and you're moving stuff around and there's no ac there's
a big difference between.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
One O two and one eight huge.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, you sit here in your air condition room, in
your pants.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Stupid pants.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Social Security had a new report come out yesterday and
it is not looking good. This financial outlook for Social
Security and its various programs says that the Social Security
Old Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund is scheduled to
be depleted in twenty thirty three. That's uh yeah, eight
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years from now. This fund, specifically the Old agent'ss Insurance
Trust Fund, pays retire and survivor benefits. At twenty twenty three, sorry,
twenty thirty three, the program will have enough revenue coming
in to pay only seventy seven percent of total scheduled benefits.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The most recent setback was driven by a policy change
known as the Social Security Fairness Act that took effect
in January. It increased benefits for about two point eight
million government and public sector workers. So the fund is
getting drained at a faster rate.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Obviously, the way the people who put together this report
have to make assumptions about the future, they have to
make assumptions about the future workforce, about the birth rate,
not sort of how many workers are actually going to
be in the workforce, and they said that the birth
rate will remain lower for longer workers compensation would weaken
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over time as they capture a lower share of.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The GDP of the of our economic output.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So there are other funds, like I said, that have
also been pointed out in this report that came out.
One of them, finances social Security disability benefits, is on
more stable ground and it will probably be able to
pay its bills through twenty ninety nine. So that's there
are some aspects of social security that are relatively healthy.
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But there is a couple of wild cards in all
of this, and one of them happens to be the
guy in the White House. The people who did this report,
most of their assumptions ended December of twenty four, so
this report takes months worth of information or takes months
to report. But it's looking at up until Donald Trump
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became president, and what they're concerned about now is tariff policies, immigration, policies.
How those things could affect not just spending, you know,
just general consumer spending. How the workforce would be impacted
if a bunch of immigrants aren't working in the workforce
and there's a concern that we have the shortfall is
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only gaining speed. Yeah, you can do very simple things
to change that. You can change, for example, how much
of a percentage the employer puts in versus what you
put in.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Do they keep it at the same rate.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You could extend retirement age, you know, push it back
a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You could raise the level of the top tier you
make over.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I think it's one hundred and seventy six thousand dollars
one hundred and seventy six and change. They stop taxing
you for social security, raise that up to one ninety
five or two hundred and four or something like that.
There are things that they can do. It's just when
it's a it's that political third rail that if you
do anything to change what social security is, you immediately
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get attacked as trying to pull benefits.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Away from somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I mean, think about what Trump did with with Elon
Musk and DOGE. Was he embedded DOGE workers he whatever
DOOSEE workers were embedded in Social Security in an attempt
to do the fraud, waste and abuse right to root
that out. That's not enough to cover the way social
Security pays out, but it is a great start, and
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it is a great way to plug some of the
leaks in Social Security so that those changes that you
do make, whether it's raising the percentages or raising the
retirement age, or raising the rate at which the taxing stops,
that's a lot easier to swallow if you know your
money's not going to be wasted.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Why don't they call you my phone? Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, it was random people, by the way, that they
were forwarding to my cell phone yesterday.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What do you mean, like random callers to the radio station?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So someone wanted to leave an eight minute voicemail about
what was about?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Is it about the triple digit temperatures? No, it was not.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It was about medications and oh yeah, what kind of medications?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hormone blockers? Ah? Oh, the trans conversation. Yeah, eight minutes.
Did you listen to all eight minutes? No?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I get it as a text that comes through the
email as well. It'll text me that the readout man.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Did they start getting routed to your cell phone. I
have no idea who did that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I think whoever did that for not delivering that fresh
hell to me.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But there was not one piece of punctuation in the
eight minute voicemail. It was just one entire run on sentence,
the whole thing. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad I didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I left a voicemail for one of my girlfriends the
other day, just for novelty, because I haven't left a
voicemail for anyone in years.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't think good old days. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, if you call and they know you call
right exactly, and then if you need something right away
or whatever, you just text it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So that's the point.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
The only time I've left a voicemail like for my
wife recently, now that you've mentioned it, is it because she.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Needs to hear your voice several times a day, right, Yeah,
I'm sure that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
No, it's uh, it would it would if I called
and I didn't need anything, I would leave the message
of hey, no big deal, just calling to check in
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's the worst voicemail ever. There's no reason for it
at all.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, maybe she does like to hear my voice. That's
that's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean honestly leaving a voicemail saying, hey, there's no
reason I'm calling, don't need to call me back.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Bye bye, love y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
All right, coming up next, Bred Rogan will join us
what we can envision for the Lakers future now that
they're going to sell the majority of the ownership to
the Dodger's owner.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh, this is exciting. If you're a Lakers fan.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Big news that came down yesterday afternoon that the Bus
family is going to sell the majority ownership to Mark
Walter Dodgers owner. Fred Rogan, of course, is our our dean,
all knowing, omniscient when it comes to sports in Los
Angeles and the history and the future. So we wanted
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to bring them on to break it down, and this
is going to be great news for Lakers fans.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Well, good morning, good morning. Why are you guys so
far behind?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But we were talking about social Security running out of money?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Why did you know about that?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, you're screwed. Fred.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I started taking it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Really bottom lined it for you.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Tell you that. Okay, Well that really didn't take twenty
five minutes to discuss if the answers are screwed, right.
I mean that was about a three second conversation. And
anybody listening that is worried about social security, not good
for you today. Okay, good, good, glad you brought.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But at least we have the Lakers.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, at least we have the Lakers. Interesting. I can't
remember a time in American sports where one person has
owned two teams of this marquee value it is. I
don't think people can really appreciate how incredible this is
that you have someone that owns the Dodgers that now
owns the Lakers. That doesn't happen in any other market.
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And what makes it even better. First, thanks to the
Bus family for what they have done over the years.
Jerry Buss was a visionary and helped change the lead.
Because of Jerry Bus, the NBA is what it is
today that cannot be diminished. And thanks to Genie and
all the kids who've done such a fine job as
being stewards of the franchise. Truth is time to change.
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Reality is family business. They don't have the capital to
operate in a manner in which they do they need
to do if they had not got that Spectrum Sportsnet
deal when they went to Time Warner, they would have
had to sell the team. What people don't understand is
you see the players on the court, but what about
the infrastructure. And it's a family run business. They don't
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have enough revenue stream. So yeah, it was kind of
a facade. They had Lebron, but if you walked over here,
there were empty desks because maybe they didn't have enough
people in scouting or analytics or development. Look at the Dodgers.
All they have is money. Mark Walter, and all he
wants to do is win. It's fascinating he would lose
millions to make billions. He understands how to make money,
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and he also understands the value of an asset that
appreciates in a market like Los Angeles. He overpaid for
the Dodgers, and now I think they're worth five billion
more than he paid for Simple. He gets it, and
he has the money. Now he's got the Lakers, he
will invest in the franchise. It will be a very
different ballgame. Now, very different ballgame. The Lakers ultimately are
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going to run differently. Genie will still be there as governor.
She owns fifteen percent of the team. You have to
to be the governor, so she'll represent the team in
league meetings and continue on all of those relationships. But
what I expect is, and not tomorrow, but in time,
you will see the Dodgers start to make moves in
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the organization. And I wouldn't be surprised. I haven't talked
to him. I could be out of school here. But
Stan Casten, who has a number of jobs now, he
used to run the Atlanta Hawks and the Atlanta Braves. Okay,
he runs the Dodgers, but I think he also runs
Mark Walters Women's Hockey League. I wouldn't be surprised that
he didn't oversee both. I wouldn't be surprised if there
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were not some synergies between the Dodgers and Lakers and
the way they approach things and the way they do things.
Say you one thing, they will cannibalize every sports marketing
partner in the market.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Is this a step towards a small number of very
very wealthy people owning multiple sports franchises across different different leagues, etc.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
I mean, I think it's a step toward very wealthy
people owning franchise and the days where they were family
and own, they're going to come to an end. Look
at the Chargers, Gary Shannon, they're owned by the Spanos family. Okay,
that's a family operated business. Look at the Rams. Stan Kronki,
he's in real estate. He makes a lot of money.
He has different revenue streams, and some would argue, although
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I think the Chargers have done a pretty good job
here in LA and there were some questions about that,
some would argue, you know, how do they compete against
the guy with all that money?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Now you bring in Jim Harbaugh and justin Herbert Show.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Yeah, but again you got to I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Been a while since the Rams are winning.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
And it's not about winning on the field, it's about
competing in the marketplace. Yeah, I mean the Chargers are
doing a great job with that, and I would say
better than most people thought. Stan Kronky has money. The
Spanos family has money, but not like that. So there
are disadvantages. Family operated sports franchises are becoming a thing
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of the past. The Chargers will survive. Dean figured it out.
He's done a nice job here. But the Lakers and
the Bus family, they're not going to survive Gary. They
just can't because people coming in now have billions and
billions of dollars. And back in the day, it was
cool when Donald Sterling owned the Clippers. This is my team,
you're my friend. Sit with me in half court. I
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don't care if we want to lose, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The days of Vstaviano, who can forget that?
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Or or him calling his wife Shelley Sterling a pig
in court. We'll ever forget that.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Are they still with us?
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I believe yeah? And so are these roller skates and
her gentle hygienics mask.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It took me a while. She was ahead of that
COVID thing, years ahead. What a visionary she really well, she.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Had to do something. After Shelley made Donald goal take
a Rolls Royce back or a range Rover, Shelley said,
I have to take the range Rover back now. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Pop.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Quiz Fred, Can you name all six bus kids?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I can't, Oh, okay, never mind.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Jim, Joey, Jeannie, Moe, Curly, Larry, I don't remember, Johnny,
Janey and Jesse. Are they all Jays?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah? For the love uh, The Sterlings are ninety and
ninety one. God bless them, God bless them. That obit's
ready to go, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
You know what I wonder if he still has his teeth?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh no, no, no, no, those have not been with us
for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Jeez. Thanks bred Frida.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
All right, kids, talk.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
To you, Thank you very much. When we come back.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Everything that's happening in Hollywood is not happening in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We'll explain when we come back. You've been listening to
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Should we make bets, like what time?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, like today or tomorrow. I believe it's going to
be overnight.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Tonight, overnight at our time or overnight over time. They're
about ten.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hours yeah, overnight our time. Okay, so middle of the
day attack, it doesn't make sense. Okay, So they're ten hours.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ahead, Tayor. I think Tehran, I think they do a
half hour thing. So Tehran, I do I think they're
I think they're do. No, that was a real thing
we got, but I think in Tehran right now it
is what would that be?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Seven thirty eight? Really? Yeah, seven thirty eight. I've never
heard of that actually being a thing. Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We got one of my brother's friends to believe that
Seattle was a half an hour difference years.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Ago, and he believed it for quite some day.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Then I was watching some of the baseball the baseballs,
and at seven forty five, at eight o'clock in Seattle,
the sun is still bright and shiny during the summertime,
so I would yes, I could easily fall for.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That seven thirty eight PM.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I guess I'll go with war tomorrow during.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Our show maybe okay, yeah, that would be just timing wise.
In the show, there is a lot going on in
terms of the the Iran Israel war that's now eight
days old. It seems like this attack today where Israel
(01:42):
bombed a nuclear site and then Iran hit a hospital,
and it is not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Benjamint and Yahoo was outside that hospital.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And explained that this is going to cause Israel to
have a mass of retaliation.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
In this hospital. Their patients are immobile, they can't even move.
Right next to it. There's a children's ward, a baby's ward,
infants they targeted. They can give this nonsense that they're
targeting military sides. What military sides? I know all the
military sides in Israel. There is in a military side
here for miles and miles around.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He goes on to say that that we're not sorry
that we're not going to let is Iran. It's hard
to I don't want to have a hard time keeping
these two apart. They're not going to let Iran have
a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
They want to have nuclear terrorism, which will put the
entire world under nuclear blackmail, and they would use these weapons.
That's what the Atla Jamenai says that he would do.
He would use these weapons to wipe Zuel off the map. Well,
he's not going to We're not going to let him.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Trump delivered what they're calling an ultimate ultimatum to Iranian
leaders to dismantle the nuclear program. He spoke on the
South lound elne of the White House, saying that the
next week is going to be big, maintaining the argument
that Iranian officials are eager to negotiate, but then said
(03:08):
after the Iranians reached out to him, he warned them
that it's very late to be talking, which makes me
believe all of the go flags are up or down,
up or down?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Up, they're waving yes, how about that? Maybe you could
go the ultimate, the ultimate ultimatum, Ultimate ultimatum.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
He is getting another National Security Council briefing today, as
you would expect, and their CBS was already reporting that
he has signed off on a plan, whatever that might be.
He just hasn't said go or nobody.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, it's a go. I would guess it's a go.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's up to the people on the ground when to
actually go They have to wait for the perfect timing. Right,
you think about going in and getting Osama bin Laden,
you give the order go ahead when the time is right,
I think is what how it works. Right, So now
it's up to the commanders on the ground of when
to strike.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's going to be sentcom that figures out when.
And we've got we know the military assets. We've talked
about it for the last several days. The American military
assets that have either been repositioned into areas in the
event that they're needed for defense, and even some of
those assets that are on the ground in some areas
have been moved out of the range of what would
(04:28):
be Iranian missiles. So think Iraq and Syria, even Saudi
Arabia and places like that, where we might have warplanes,
fighter planes, whatever that would be military assets of ours,
we've moved them away from those things that would be
right within that the concentric circle that is the range
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of Iranian missiles.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes we have the bunker buster bomb right, and yes
we do have the B two's to drop that thirty
thousand massive ordnance penetrator, but it is not a piece
of cake getting it onto the target through teeth of
a sophisticated air defense system, as they point out in
(05:14):
The Intelligencer, would be a complex and dangerous process. They
say taking out the deep bunker requires a very special
set of tools, of course, the being the B two
and that thirty thousand bomb. But you've got to go
in first soften the defenses. We've talked about the Israelis
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maybe going in and doing that kind of the laying
the foundation in terms of.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Boots on the ground.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, and your point that they have to disable some
of the air defenses. More so, they have said both
Net and Yahoo and Trump have said that we control
the skies that they do have no basically no air
defense system around tay On. But when you get into
those hardened facilities, that are the nuclear facilities, that has
(06:05):
not disappeared completely.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So they said, inbound bombers like the B two's are
going to come in, unleash hell, then fly back out again.
Inbound bombers would be preceded and accompanied by fighter escorts
as well as electronic warfare aircraft like the EA eighteen
G Growler. They said that will jam Iranian air defense
radars and what they call a wild weasel aircraft that
(06:29):
can detect and destroy those radars by throwing an air
to surface munition like a bomber a missile down the
radar's throat. So it's a whole cavalry of an air attack.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's not simple.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's very complex, and there's different layers of getting this
thing done and getting it done right again.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
The two big targets is Reel targeted the heavy water
reactor in the Arak Nuclear facility, and then Iran tarted
a hospital, the Soroka Hospital. There was actually an American
medical student who is nearby when that hospital was hit.
(07:08):
We'll talk about that and hear his comments about what
he saw when that thing happened a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Also about forty thousand US service members in the Middle East,
what they're doing to prepare to defend themselves when and
if after we attack. It keeps saying when and if,
changing that to when.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
According to several different reports, the Dodgers are expected to
make an announcement today some sort of sweeping new initiative,
they say to assist communities that have been impacted by
immigration enforcement operating This is the.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Fact that they've done nothing about all of the protests.
They've remained quiet. They had the singer who came out
and sang the national anthem and Espanol, and she got
some heat. She said that she was told not to.
We don't really know where that was coming from, or
at least I haven't dug into it. So I apologize
for not but they've been pretty silent, and I was surprised.
(08:12):
I was when when it came out that she sang
in Spanish and then she was told not to. I thought, well,
why wouldn't she That's the perfect venue to show support
for the protests. The Dodgers seemed to be an organization
that have done so in the past. It was kind
of odd their silence on the matter considering their fan base.
But in the city, in everything, so I wonder what
(08:35):
they're going to announce today. It's going to be something
in solidarity with the protesters, I would imagine, yeah, something.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm not sure I believe the entire narrative of what
the if she was.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Told me not to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, I don't think the Dodgers told her not.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't think the Dodgers would have told her not
to that would have been Brand's suicide.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But nobody was mad at her. That was the other
thing is nobody came to her and said, you're never
coming back. She said something like the probably never have
me back again, and the Dodgers like, why not, We've
loved it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Of course you can come back.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Dodger Stadium is known as a place to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
The Air India crash. Remember from last week. The chairman
of the Air India airline said in an interview there
was a new engine attached to that airplane two months ago.
They're not saying that that's what caused it. They're saying
that's an anomaly. Perhaps that might lead them to some
(09:31):
sort of information about what made that plane go down.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Do you know how often that happens that a plane
gets a new engine or is that odd? Is that
something that doesn't happen or is it well?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I would say, because the seven eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
In general is one of the newer airplanes, I wouldn't
think you'd have to replace.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Engines on those things very quickly.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know what that lifespain was.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm curious as to what that means. Knowing that anyway.
Space X, by the way, says a major anomaly was
responsible for causing it starship to explode during a routine test.
Video shows Ship thirty six erupting into a massive fireball
late yesterday. It was expected that Ship thirty six would
(10:14):
be used for the next Starship launch. The explosion happened
during what's called a static fire test. SpaceX said there
was a safety clear area in place around the site
and all personnel are safe and accounted for.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
After the thing blew up, Elon Musk took to Twitter
and wrote, just a scratch. I mean it turned into
confetti that rocket ship and he wrote just a scratch.
So we know that Israel has carried out strikes on
a couple of Iran's nuclear facilities. We know that they've
(10:46):
gone after Natans and Ishfahan. Initially that they had also
said they hit the Boucher if you're keeping track at home,
the site of the only functioning nuclear power plant in Iran.
A spokesperson for the Israeli Defense Horses later on said
that that wasn't the case. The Iranians have struck the
(11:08):
Soroka Medical Center in the southern Israeli city of Beersheba.
There are a couple of different videos that exist online
that you can see the impact of this. One of
the medical students in there was Judas Smith. He works
at the hospital. Wasn't in the hospital at the time,
but was nearby in his apartment and heard the air raidside.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
I mean my neighbor who is a doctor at Soroka
as well. We grabbed their stuff. We ran to the
shelter and I'll be honest, we didn't expect much to happen,
because usually the iron dome is very effective, but we
heard four very loud explosions, and even underground. I was underground,
you could tell that this is different. And the third explosion,
(11:51):
I think I knew deep down that it had made
an impact in the city somewhere.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He said that shortly after, almost immediately, they were hold
go back to the hospital, we need your help.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Within I cidding, not in five seconds, my friend who
works in the er there and he's a doctor, he
received a phone call asking him to come in immediately
because the hospital had just been hit.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Amazingly, no one was killed in that strike. If you've
seen the damage from it, that is an amazing thing.
There were also reports that the wing of the hospital
that was actually hit by the missile that suffered the
direct hit had been evacuated just yesterday out of fear
that it was going to be a target.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A couple things like we have been preparing, so has Iran.
American intelligence officials believe Iran has already begun preparing missiles
and other weapons for retaliatory strikes against US service members
deployed to numerous bases in the Middle East that do
lie within range of Iranian missiles. The other thing that
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the experts are saying that even if the US air
strike against Foord, oh for example, is one hundred percent successful,
it doesn't wipe out the nuclear program forever.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
They say that they have too large of a community
of scientists that are dispersed across the country that they
have the requisite expertise to rebuild and rebuild deeper and
more hardened facilities. That's what they're saying. I just don't
know if they have the means to do so. I mean,
Iran is as weak as is as it has been
(13:30):
for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think the Israelis and net and Yahoo had said
it yesterday, he would love it if they could stop today,
if the Iranian people rose up and cut the head
of the snake, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
If if you cut the head of the snake, you
get rid of the whole regime, then we're talking. But
just taking out the nuclear site is not enough to
stop the machine that is Iran's desire to have a
nuclear program. But want in one hand and crap in
the other, right, they could if they don't take out
the head of the snake, they could still want it,
but not have the means to rebuild it, at least
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not for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Pentagon says there are about forty thousand active duty troops
and Defensive Department civilians that are deployed in areas around
the Middle East that would potentially fall within the range
of in Iranian attack if in fact they decided to
target Americans.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
All right, coming up next, Well, we knew this was
going to happen before we retired. Social Security is running
out of money. More evidence that that's definitely happening, is
happening sooner than everyone thought. Great news for Lakers fans
with the Bus family selling Bus Family is great, But
that's just what they are. They're a family run shop.
And look at what Mark Walter has done for the Dodgers.
(14:45):
Think about what's possible for the Lakers. We'll have Fred
Rogan coming on later in the hour to break it
all down for us.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
If you were asking why traffic was so light today,
there's a lot of people people, federal government, county state,
A lot of people do not have to go to
work today.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Now, is there a tradition that has been born already
for Juneteenth? In terms of what people do on this holiday?
There are grade is a grilling? Is it grilling? Because
it is all official?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Speaking of official, is summer start tomorrow or the twenty first?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I always get that confused. Twenty third tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It is seven pm, ah tomorrow at seven forty two pm,
and then football starts in six weeks at five pm.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's not New Year's Day, it's not Thanksgiving or Christmas
or Easter.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's football season.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How come you just left this postcard flapping in the
wind out there? We got a postcard sent to us.
Somebody took the time to get us a beautiful postcard
featuring Riverside, California, right, and you just left it out
in the common area, and luckily I and rescued it. Okay,
to give it the love it so deserves. Love a way,
(16:05):
Dear Gary and Shannon, I really like your show.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I really like that show.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Question why do weather forecast stick with the term triple
digits for any and all tempts above one hundred degrees
in the ie?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Is their hack?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I work at an Amazon warehouse in sam Bernardino, and
it makes a difference if it's one hundred and two
or one hundred and eight, as the higher heat is
harder on the human body. Also, I miss Obama, that's
what he put in there.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You have to do with temperatures over there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know, but it's a good, good point you
make here, mister Sutton. It does make a difference between
one hundred and two and one oh eight, A big difference.
One hundred and two I'll be like, all right, I'll
go I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
One hundred and eight.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm like, yeah, that's hospital land, that's hospital territory. I'll
take the day off or what have you. Yeah, that'll
put you in a hospital if you're working. I know,
it's been a while since you've actually done work.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Whether you had to work inside, but like if you
are taxing your body, if you're working in a warehouse
and you're moving stuff around and there's no ac there's
a big difference between.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
One O two and one eight huge.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, you sit here in your air condition room, in
your pants.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Stupid pants.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Social Security had a new report come out yesterday and
it is not looking good. This financial outlook for Social
Security and its various programs says that the Social Security
Old Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund is scheduled to
be depleted in twenty thirty three. That's uh yeah, eight
(17:56):
years from now. This fund, specifically the Old agent'ss Insurance
Trust Fund, pays retire and survivor benefits. At twenty twenty three, sorry,
twenty thirty three, the program will have enough revenue coming
in to pay only seventy seven percent of total scheduled benefits.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The most recent setback was driven by a policy change
known as the Social Security Fairness Act that took effect
in January. It increased benefits for about two point eight
million government and public sector workers. So the fund is
getting drained at a faster rate.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Obviously, the way the people who put together this report
have to make assumptions about the future, they have to
make assumptions about the future workforce, about the birth rate,
not sort of how many workers are actually going to
be in the workforce, and they said that the birth
rate will remain lower for longer workers compensation would weaken
(18:57):
over time as they capture a lower share of.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The GDP of the of our economic output.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So there are other funds, like I said, that have
also been pointed out in this report that came out.
One of them, finances social Security disability benefits, is on
more stable ground and it will probably be able to
pay its bills through twenty ninety nine. So that's there
are some aspects of social security that are relatively healthy.
(19:24):
But there is a couple of wild cards in all
of this, and one of them happens to be the
guy in the White House. The people who did this report,
most of their assumptions ended December of twenty four, so
this report takes months worth of information or takes months
to report. But it's looking at up until Donald Trump
(19:48):
became president, and what they're concerned about now is tariff policies, immigration, policies.
How those things could affect not just spending, you know,
just general consumer spending. How the workforce would be impacted
if a bunch of immigrants aren't working in the workforce
and there's a concern that we have the shortfall is
(20:13):
only gaining speed. Yeah, you can do very simple things
to change that. You can change, for example, how much
of a percentage the employer puts in versus what you
put in.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Do they keep it at the same rate.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You could extend retirement age, you know, push it back
a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You could raise the level of the top tier you
make over.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I think it's one hundred and seventy six thousand dollars
one hundred and seventy six and change. They stop taxing
you for social security, raise that up to one ninety
five or two hundred and four or something like that.
There are things that they can do. It's just when
it's a it's that political third rail that if you
do anything to change what social security is, you immediately
(20:58):
get attacked as trying to pull benefits.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Away from somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I mean, think about what Trump did with with Elon
Musk and DOGE. Was he embedded DOGE workers he whatever
DOOSEE workers were embedded in Social Security in an attempt
to do the fraud, waste and abuse right to root
that out. That's not enough to cover the way social
Security pays out, but it is a great start, and
(21:25):
it is a great way to plug some of the
leaks in Social Security so that those changes that you
do make, whether it's raising the percentages or raising the
retirement age, or raising the rate at which the taxing stops,
that's a lot easier to swallow if you know your
money's not going to be wasted.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Why don't they call you my phone? Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, it was random people, by the way, that they
were forwarding to my cell phone yesterday.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What do you mean, like random callers to the radio station?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So someone wanted to leave an eight minute voicemail about
what was about?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Is it about the triple digit temperatures? No, it was not.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It was about medications and oh yeah, what kind of medications?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hormone blockers? Ah? Oh, the trans conversation. Yeah, eight minutes.
Did you listen to all eight minutes? No?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I get it as a text that comes through the
email as well. It'll text me that the readout man.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Did they start getting routed to your cell phone. I
have no idea who did that.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I think whoever did that for not delivering that fresh
hell to me.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
But there was not one piece of punctuation in the
eight minute voicemail. It was just one entire run on sentence,
the whole thing. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad I didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I left a voicemail for one of my girlfriends the
other day, just for novelty, because I haven't left a
voicemail for anyone in years.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't think good old days. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, if you call and they know you call
right exactly, and then if you need something right away
or whatever, you just text it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So that's the point.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
The only time I've left a voicemail like for my
wife recently, now that you've mentioned it, is it because she.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Needs to hear your voice several times a day, right, Yeah,
I'm sure that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
No, it's uh, it would it would if I called
and I didn't need anything, I would leave the message
of hey, no big deal, just calling to check in
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's the worst voicemail ever. There's no reason for it
at all.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, maybe she does like to hear my voice. That's
that's okay.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean honestly leaving a voicemail saying, hey, there's no
reason I'm calling, don't need to call me back.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Bye bye, love y'all.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
All right, coming up next, Bred Rogan will join us
what we can envision for the Lakers future now that
they're going to sell the majority of the ownership to
the Dodger's owner.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh, this is exciting. If you're a Lakers fan.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
am six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Big news that came down yesterday afternoon that the Bus
family is going to sell the majority ownership to Mark
Walter Dodgers owner. Fred Rogan, of course, is our our dean,
all knowing, omniscient when it comes to sports in Los
Angeles and the history and the future. So we wanted
(24:16):
to bring them on to break it down, and this
is going to be great news for Lakers fans.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Well, good morning, good morning. Why are you guys so
far behind?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But we were talking about social Security running out of money?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Why did you know about that?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, you're screwed. Fred.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I started taking it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Really bottom lined it for you.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Tell you that. Okay, Well that really didn't take twenty
five minutes to discuss if the answers are screwed, right.
I mean that was about a three second conversation. And
anybody listening that is worried about social security, not good
for you today. Okay, good, good, glad you brought.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But at least we have the Lakers.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, at least we have the Lakers. Interesting. I can't
remember a time in American sports where one person has
owned two teams of this marquee value it is. I
don't think people can really appreciate how incredible this is
that you have someone that owns the Dodgers that now
owns the Lakers. That doesn't happen in any other market.
(25:14):
And what makes it even better. First, thanks to the
Bus family for what they have done over the years.
Jerry Buss was a visionary and helped change the lead.
Because of Jerry Bus, the NBA is what it is
today that cannot be diminished. And thanks to Genie and
all the kids who've done such a fine job as
being stewards of the franchise. Truth is time to change.
(25:36):
Reality is family business. They don't have the capital to
operate in a manner in which they do they need
to do if they had not got that Spectrum Sportsnet
deal when they went to Time Warner, they would have
had to sell the team. What people don't understand is
you see the players on the court, but what about
the infrastructure. And it's a family run business. They don't
(25:58):
have enough revenue stream. So yeah, it was kind of
a facade. They had Lebron, but if you walked over here,
there were empty desks because maybe they didn't have enough
people in scouting or analytics or development. Look at the Dodgers.
All they have is money. Mark Walter, and all he
wants to do is win. It's fascinating he would lose
millions to make billions. He understands how to make money,
(26:21):
and he also understands the value of an asset that
appreciates in a market like Los Angeles. He overpaid for
the Dodgers, and now I think they're worth five billion
more than he paid for Simple. He gets it, and
he has the money. Now he's got the Lakers, he
will invest in the franchise. It will be a very
different ballgame. Now, very different ballgame. The Lakers ultimately are
(26:44):
going to run differently. Genie will still be there as governor.
She owns fifteen percent of the team. You have to
to be the governor, so she'll represent the team in
league meetings and continue on all of those relationships. But
what I expect is, and not tomorrow, but in time,
you will see the Dodgers start to make moves in
(27:05):
the organization. And I wouldn't be surprised. I haven't talked
to him. I could be out of school here. But
Stan Casten, who has a number of jobs now, he
used to run the Atlanta Hawks and the Atlanta Braves. Okay,
he runs the Dodgers, but I think he also runs
Mark Walters Women's Hockey League. I wouldn't be surprised that
he didn't oversee both. I wouldn't be surprised if there
(27:27):
were not some synergies between the Dodgers and Lakers and
the way they approach things and the way they do things.
Say you one thing, they will cannibalize every sports marketing
partner in the market.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Is this a step towards a small number of very
very wealthy people owning multiple sports franchises across different different leagues, etc.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
I mean, I think it's a step toward very wealthy
people owning franchise and the days where they were family
and own, they're going to come to an end. Look
at the Chargers, Gary Shannon, they're owned by the Spanos family. Okay,
that's a family operated business. Look at the Rams. Stan Kronki,
he's in real estate. He makes a lot of money.
He has different revenue streams, and some would argue, although
(28:19):
I think the Chargers have done a pretty good job
here in LA and there were some questions about that,
some would argue, you know, how do they compete against
the guy with all that money?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Now you bring in Jim Harbaugh and justin Herbert Show.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
Yeah, but again you got to I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Been a while since the Rams are winning.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
And it's not about winning on the field, it's about
competing in the marketplace. Yeah, I mean the Chargers are
doing a great job with that, and I would say
better than most people thought. Stan Kronky has money. The
Spanos family has money, but not like that. So there
are disadvantages. Family operated sports franchises are becoming a thing
(28:58):
of the past. The Chargers will survive. Dean figured it out.
He's done a nice job here. But the Lakers and
the Bus family, they're not going to survive Gary. They
just can't because people coming in now have billions and
billions of dollars. And back in the day, it was
cool when Donald Sterling owned the Clippers. This is my team,
you're my friend. Sit with me in half court. I
(29:18):
don't care if we want to lose, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The days of Vstaviano, who can forget that?
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Or or him calling his wife Shelley Sterling a pig
in court. We'll ever forget that.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Are they still with us?
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I believe yeah? And so are these roller skates and
her gentle hygienics mask.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
It took me a while. She was ahead of that
COVID thing, years ahead. What a visionary she really well, she.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Had to do something. After Shelley made Donald goal take
a Rolls Royce back or a range Rover, Shelley said,
I have to take the range Rover back now. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Pop.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Quiz Fred, Can you name all six bus kids?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I can't, Oh, okay, never mind.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Jim, Joey, Jeannie, Moe, Curly, Larry, I don't remember, Johnny,
Janey and Jesse. Are they all Jays?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah? For the love uh, The Sterlings are ninety and
ninety one. God bless them, God bless them. That obit's
ready to go, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
You know what I wonder if he still has his teeth?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh no, no, no, no, those have not been with us
for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Jeez. Thanks bred Frida.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
All right, kids, talk.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
To you, Thank you very much. When we come back.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Everything that's happening in Hollywood is not happening in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We'll explain when we come back. You've been listening to
The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
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