August 18, 2025 • 33 mins
Newsom / Redistricting. Trump and Zelensky meeting officially underway / Uphill battle ahead of Newsom in his redistricting project. LAPD “Grim Reaper’. Pearl Harbor Logbook Found, revealing new information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
President Zelenski of Ukraine is due at the White House
in a few minutes for this big, huge, high stakes meeting.
He's there along with several European leaders to meet with
President Trump and talk about what went on in the
Trump Putin summit from last Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So we'll keep it eye on that.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This Gavin Newsome thing going back and forth about how
his press people have now taken to the Donald Trump
style of tweeting with the all caps and the thank
you for your attention to this matter and referring to
himself as Gavin Christopher Newsom and all that. There was
a there was a post from over the weekend Gavin
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Newsom versus JD Vance in high school, and it was
an image of both of these two guys. Gavin Newsom
looking very dapper in a you know, with a scarf around,
reading a newspaper, and the image of JD Vance was
him standing in a bathroom with two girls pretending to
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pee in urinals.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
My gun.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And then somebody responds to that with Gavin Newsom versus JD.
Vance after high school graduation, and there's this picture of
a frosted tips looking Gavin Newsom with his arms crossed,
looking like it pretending to be a tough guy, and
then JD. Vance in his full marine dress uniform. This
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is the idea that people look at that and feel like, oh,
this makes my team better, stronger. It's it's the dumbing.
It the complete dumbing down of us as voters. But
also you're ruining whatever sort of goodwill you may have had.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Paul Harvey would call it the dumbing of a Maria. Yes,
Gavin Newsome has taken up the redistricting mantle and I
kind of went after him for doing so last week,
telling him to the something to the effect of nobody cares.
That's not going to get you more votes, and you
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so Astuteley said something to the effect of he wants
to be taken seriously by other Democrats around the country.
And then every other opinion writer over the weekend basically
said the same thing. This is Newsome trying to get
to the big kids table and show that he's more
than just a nice haircut.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He wants people to think.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He can tackle and tackle Trump head on with.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
These weighty issues that affect.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The entire country, like redistricting. It is a gamble, as
people have been pointing out, it is a gamble. A
special election is a gamble. If he is a failure here,
then he goes right back to square one on Candy Land.
In terms of oh I would running for president, I
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would say he goes.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He's off the board. I don't even think he goes
to square one.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
If he loses this fight, he's done, and he's going
to become an afterthought when it comes to at least nationally,
he's going to become an afterthought when it comes to politics.
He may get some sort of fancy cabinet position if
a Democrat is chosen as president next time around or
in some future administration.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But he can't.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
He is You can't walk up to the bully and
pretend to be the hero and swing and miss.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You're gonna get your ass handed DOWNE.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So here, if you have him, then paying attention. Here's
how it all started. Trump started putting pressure on Republicans
in Texas to revise that state's congressional district lines. Why well,
Trump remembers the fact that the Rebublicans lost the House
majority in twenty eighteen during his first term, making things
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much more difficult. You had two impeachments, You had endless oversight,
hearing subpoenas of his staff, all the things that Trump hates,
all the domestic legislation he wanted to pass, roadblock, roadblock, roadblock,
So a new map in Texas could shift as many
as five seats in favor of the Republicans. That could
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make the difference in who controls the chamber. I mean,
you think of Texas and you think Republican asked an answered,
But when you get down to the nitty.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Gritty, these seats matter.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
These blue seats need to be read for the Republicans
to do what they want to do with both Houses
of Congress. Gavin Newsom decides to enter the fray, and
he is now pushing California's legislature to redistrict US and
eliminate our nine Republican strongholds. Now, Gavin Newsom insists that
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this move is intended to save the democracy, to kind
of counteract what's happening in Texas with California, and that
way we can control we being the Democrats, in his mind,
can can control Congress.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The president can be you know.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Whoever they want to will act, Donald Trump, you know,
Santa Claus, whatever. But if you've got both houses of Congress,
Santa Claus can't gets done. You've got to have the
power of Congress. So it is a big boy fight,
and it is a fight that matters for Democrats across
the country more so than who the president is. They
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want control of those houses. They live on it. This
is their blood, is what they fight for. But can
Gavin Newsom move the ball across the line, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He's got a bunch of things going against him. We've
got to talk.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
About the special election, about how that faces an uphill climb.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, it's first of all, that's just I mean, among
other things, it's money.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's money the state doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to emerge as the
face of the anti redistricting. The polls already show this
thing is behind where it needs to be.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
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Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, we're getting answers as to why there was nothing
in Brad Pitt's home when it was broken into, it
was already in the process of being sold apparently moved.
Oubt it is officially on its way to a new owner.
The La Home. This is the three bedroom, two bathroom
Lows feelis property that everyone's posting pictures of. To your point,
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why do we keep doing this? It is currently in
escrow and is off It's an off the market deal
where there was a flurry of interest as soon as
word got out. But the home considering the home as
Hollywood history, and you know Brad Pitt lived there.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's called the Steelhouse.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He purchased it from Eileen Getty, who bought it from
James Valentine of Maroon five back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do you want to see we have an audio from
the White House. The President is hosting President Zelenski.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Sure, and everybody dresses the same. If your team Trump,
You've got your navy suit and your red tie, and
that's the uniform.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's Marco Rubio, It's JD. Vans and Donald Trump all
in the same outfit.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
If we're doing outfit talk, because Zelenski, by the way,
is not wearing a suit, but he is.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Wearing just a short while ago with the president of.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Rush Jacket like boys, and I.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Think there's a possibility that something could come out of it.
And today's meeting is very important. We have I guess
the seven seven very powerful leaders from Europe and we're
going to be meeting with them right after this meeting.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And thank you very much for being here. Thanks so much,
mister President. If I can, first of all, thank you.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
For invitation, and thank you very much for your efforts
our God the levers to stop killings and stop this work.
Thank you and using this opportunity.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Many thanks to your wife.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Firstly doing the United States, she send a letter to
put in about our children abducted children, and.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
My wife she firstly do with Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
She gave the letters it's not to you to your wife.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yeah. Yeah, So we have said this sensitive topic.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yes please, And thanks to our partners and that you.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Supported this format.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And after our medium week and a half leaders who
are around US, UK and France, jemmany feel that Eunavia,
I mean all all partners around Ukraine supporting us. Thanks
for them, Thank you very much for invitation, Thank you very.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Much for being here, our President Trump crazy yes, Peter Gold,
thank you President Trump. So President Lenski.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Do you say in a post next today, Russia must
end this war which itself started, President Trump, You say,
President Zelenski, Ukraine can end the world with Russia almost
immediately if he wants to. Which is it?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
No, I think that's true. I think Phil, we're gonna
have a meeting.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I think, well, if everything works out well today, we'll
have a try lad and I think there will be
a reasonable chance of ending the war when we do that.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Okay, Is this the end of the road for American support?
Where you pram is today's meeting deal or no deal?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I can never say that. It's never the end of
the road. People are being killed and we want to
stop that. So I would not say it's the end
of the road. No, I think we have a good
chance of doing it. It's been almost forty years now
that a lot of people were killed last week.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
A lot of people last week. I mean millions of people.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Killed, but a lot of people last week for whatever reason,
a big number, a lot of soldiers.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Both on both sides.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And I know the president, I know myself, and I
believe Vladimir Putin wants to see it ended.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And as you have a Putin on Friday.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Say you've got President Zelenski here, as you listen to
Russia and Ukraine, which side has the better cars?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, I don't want to say that. I'm just going
to I'm just here to be Look, this isn't my war.
This is Joe Biden's war. He's the one that had
a lot to do with this happening, and we want
to get it ended.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
And we wanted to end good for everybody. We wanted
to end good.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
The people of Ukraine have suffered incredibly.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
President, President Zelenski, are you prepared to keep sending Ukrainian
troops to their debts for another couple of years or
are you going to agree to redraw a mass?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Thank you for your questions. So, first of all, you
know we live under each day at Teme. You know
that today have been a lot.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Of texts and a lot of wounded people.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
And the child was that small one one one year
and a half. So we need to stop this world,
to stop Russia, and we need support American and European partners.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
We will do our best for this.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
So and I think we show that we are strong
people and we supported the idea of the United States
of personally President Trump to stop this war, to make
a diplomatic way of finishing this war, and we are
ready for trilateral As President said, this is a good
thing about Traila.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I think this is very good.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Thank you want if the peace deal will be achieved,
are you going to be willing to send American peacekeepers
to Ukraine?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
So we're going to work with Ukraine. We're going to
work with everybody, and.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
We're going to make sure that if there's piece, the
piece is going to stay long term.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
This is very long term.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We're not talking about a two year piece and then
we end up in this mess again.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
We're going to make sure that everything's good.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
We'll work with Russia, we're going to work with Ukraine,
and we're going to make sure it works.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
And I think if we can get to peace, it's
going to work. I have no doubt about it. Your
team is going ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Your team has talked about security guarantees.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Could that involve US troops?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Would you roll that out in the future.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
We'll let you know that maybe later today. We're meeting
with seven great leaders. If great country is also and
we'll be talking about that, they'll all be involved. But
there'll be a lot of there'll be a.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Lot of help. When it comes to security, there's going
to be a lot of help. It's going to be good.
They are the first line of defense because they're.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
There the Europe, but we're going to help them out also,
we'll be involved.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So what do you what.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
You mentioned that the war will not end without addressing
the root cause of this warm Do you have you
had an understanding?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
What are the root causes of this warm?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well, look, if the war's gonna end, when it ends,
I can't tell you, but the war is going to end,
and this gentleman wants it to end, and Vladimir Bouton
wants it to end. I think the whole world is
tired of it and we're gonna get it ended. It
was uh, you know, I've done six wars. I've ended
six wars, and I thought this maybe would be the
easiest one. M And it's not the easiest one. It's uh,
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it's a it's a tough one. UH A lot of
uh lot of uh reasons for it. And they'll be
talking about it for a long time, but they'll be
talking about the others. Look, India, Pakistan, we're talking about uh,
the big places. When you look at uh, you just
take a look at some of these wars. You go
to Africa and take.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
A look at that Rwanda and the.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Congo, Republic of the Condo, Congo.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
That's been going on for thirty one years.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And so we've done a total of six that we
really have by a sixth not included the fact that
we obliterated.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And it's turned out to be a total obliteration.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
The nuclear and as you said, the nuclear the future
nuclear capability of Iran, and.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
This one I think we're going to get solved. Also,
I think I feel confident we're going to get it solve.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
President Trump there with Voldemyr Zelensky of Ukraine in the
Oval Office ahead of their big meeting. I can't I
can't think of any time there have been this many
European leaders at the White House.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
At one time for any reason.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So it's nothing else that's that is pretty significantly. That
was funny where he said the Republic of Condo, because
I guarantee you that man has said more than Congo millions.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh my god, I didn't even.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Pick up it's funny, just a little miss misspeak there,
my god. So he says they are talking about a
long term piece deal and he knows Trump does that
this is not possible without having European support.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
European leaders there.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's why, that's why it's a full house there at
the at the White House today.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
To put a bow on the Gavin Newsom discussion. And
we couldn't talk more about it obviously throughout the week
because it will remain in the news. The major problem
for Gavin Newsome with this redistricting effort in California to
kind of offset what they're doing in Texas in terms
of stealing seats away from the Democrats, he wants to
steal away from the Republicans here in California. A new poll,
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this is Politico Citron finds it Californian's favor keeping the commission,
the Independent Redistricting Commission, by a wide margin. Most people
don't want politicians drawing up the districts. They want this
independent commission, which is I think the way it should be, right,
sixty four percent to thirty six percent. I don't know
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if the poll takes into account. Yeah, but what if
they play around in Texas and the Democrats have no
chance of holding Book Chambers.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Gavin Newsom's office also said that the pole question itself
wasn't worded correct. Yeah, so listen, it is an uphill
battle because if nothing else, opponents of it, all you
have to do is say, voters in California twice wanted
to take away district drawing capability from the legislature. It's
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too self serving for them to be in the control
of it, and in fact give it up to an
independent commission. That's one of the reasons why Governor Schwarzenegger.
Former Governor Schwarzenegger is so hip on this because this
happened during his term. This is something he pushed for.
So I there is going to be some public support
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simply for the idea that you're saving democracy. I mean,
both sides are going to claim that. Gavin Newsom says
he's saving democracy by not allowing Texas to do that
without some sort of retribution. Others say, you're saving democracy
by giving voters the choice. Here, the voters are the
ones who choose whether or not it should be en
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up to an independent commission.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So the LAPD has a grim reaper amongst its ranks
and internal affairs detective. This one's got Hollywood written all
over it, doesn't It this story will tell you about
the Grim Reaper and why he's called that. When we return,
Garian Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
President Trump and Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski sitting in the
Oval Office taking questions right now just about what the
plan is for the rest of the day. European leaders
have joined Zelenski and we'll be meeting with President Trump
to talk about, among other things, what was discussed Friday
between Trump and putin the potential security guarantees that are
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being looked at, where you t Crane wouldn't join NATO,
but would be promised some amount of protection similar to
Article five in NATO, which basically says an attack on
any of us is an attack on all of us,
and then everybody gets to come to their defense.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
So we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
What sort of landswap plans there would be, if any,
to get that deal for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
One of the jokes in the New Naked Gun is
at the expense of eternal affairs, and of course internal
affairs is often vilified by the name of police agency
here and the LAPD may be no different. LAPD Sergeant
Joseph Lloyd is an internal affairs detective has been assigned
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to investigate several of LAPD's biggest scandals. He is known
in the department as the Grim Reaper. He is a
veteran internal affairs detective. He seems to delight in this
the way an HOA president delights in telling you your
plants are not uniform with everyone else's plants. What he
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likes being a nark ah got it? You know you're
kind Wait what you were an ra in the dorms?
You also have nark blood go on. But his supporters
maintain that his dogged pursuit of the truth, as it's
described in the La Times, is why he has been
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entrusted with what they are calling at the LAPD's most
politically sensitive and potentially embarrassing cases.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
He's fifty two.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He has declined to comment for the LA Time story,
but they talked to more than half a dozen current
or former police officers who either worked alongside the Grim
Reaper or fell under his scrutiny.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He's investigating cops of all ranks.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
There was an anti gang squad out of the valley
that was accused of covering up shakedowns and motorists, and
he was assigned to a task force looking into allegations
of excessive force by police against activists who opposed the
government's immigration crackdown. He has become the face of this
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debate over the discipline system that exists in the LAPD,
and for decades probably has been getting has been criticized.
The union has long complained that senior leaders will get
favorable treatment by internal affairs. Others say rank and file
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cops who commit misconduct are routinely let off the hook.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Chief Jim McDonald came in and commissioned a study and
he found or the study the people they carried out.
The study found that the perceived unfairness in internal investigations
is the real deal, a serious point of contention among officers,
and it's contributed to the low morale and the department. Now,
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if you are looking at the LAPD, there's no shortage
of low morale.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
We're all stucked up here.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Who wants to be a police officer in this day
and age when everyone thinks that you're racist and you're awful,
and you're out there to hurt people and be racist.
No longer does the police come with the reputation of hey,
we're here to help, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
No, So already there's low.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Morale that you've got to come in as Jim McDonald
and boost back up, and then you've got low morale
from the inside. In the form of contention about internal affairs,
McDonald said he wants to speed up investigations better screen complaints,
but that hasn't happened. There have been efforts to do so,
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and he's kind of met some roadblocks there, or other
chiefs have met some roadblocks.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They use a one example, Sarah Dunster, a sergeant working
in the Hollywood Division at LAPD. So you learned that
she was under investigation because she was accused him as
handling a complaint against one of her officers. The officer
was accused of groping a woman that he had arrested.
So she says she remembers being interviewed by Lloyd and
the question seemed designed to trip her up and catch
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her in a lie rather than just figuring out an
account of what happened. And she said some of the
responses that she gave never even made it into the
guy's report. He wanted to fire me. She said she
was terminated over the incident, but she appealed superior court
judge did grant a reprieve that allowed her to potentially
get her job back. I mean, that's if she would
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even want to go back.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Some guys, gals, everyone say that Sergeant Joseph Lloyd, the
grim raper, is just a fall guy that the bucks
star stops with whoever the police chief is at the time,
and he's just the guy that gets blamed for all
of this. On more than one occasion, Internal Affairs received
complaints from senior department officials who thought that this guy
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did not show them enough deference during entearations. Other supporters
point to his willingness to take on controversial cases to
hold officers accountable, even when facing character attacks from his colleagues.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
He is a true believer and he is going to
do what is right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Although not obviously politically advantageous for him, are palatable among
the ranks in the department.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
We're going to get to talk to Chief Jim McDonnell about,
you know, if there is low mora morale in the department,
if this is one of the factors, and what that
they can do to kind of raise that get people
to want to wear the badge again, want to work
in the LAPD because they are below the levels they
want to be at. And part of that's budget issues,
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but part of that's it's hard to sign up to
want to be a cop these days.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It started as budget issues.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I remember when Vira Gosa was mayor, he talked about
having a desire to have ten thousand the level the
sort of magic number was it about ten thousand sworn officers, right,
And I mean that was fifteen years ago and they
have not been able to reach that number. Add into that,
like you said, sort of the deteriorating confidence, in the
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deteriorating image that police have gotten unfairly, then you're gonna
have an uphill client.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You've said a couple times today that we are manifesting happiness.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Manifesting happiness?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
What led to this this mood you bring?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
My wife said, we're going to manifest it this morning
because too often you start the week and you're in
a bad space, negative place.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So maybe happiness.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Manifesting means putting it out there so the universe puts
it back.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Damn right, it gives it to us. Damn right?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Are you doing anything actively to manifest happiness other than.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Just saying it. I'm smiling right now. Are you having
some quiet time with your thoughts? I'm smiling. Okay, that's
not a real smile. Yes it is. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But sometimes you can fake it. You can fake smile
till it makes you happy. About eight seconds of a
smile supposed to give you a real one. I'm still
waiting for your real one. I'm excited because I've decided
what we're going to do to make this news and
Bruise on Thursday special.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What are we going to do? Well, we have a
news and Bruce.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's going to be at BJ's right there on Beach Boulevard,
right off the four or five and Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Get to join us.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
We're going to dress up for football season because it
is upon us. We're like, what twenty days away, nineteen.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Something like that. It's it's going to be here.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's going to be here tomorrow basically, and Gary's going
to unveil his feet. We're all going to see Gary's
feet together as a family on Thursday at BJ's. Oh
my yep, yeah, promise. I haven't seen these things ever
ten years. I haven't seen his feet. He's been protective
of them for whatever reason. And we're all going to
get a glimpse of these things together.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Gary's Grippers. Yeah, Gary's Grippers. Can I get a photo
with them? You sure can, Elmer, we're your only fans.
What is happening? My daughter calls them grippers, So we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
We're Gary's Feet in particular, Gary's group, No, just in general. Oh,
if she's talking about Gary's feet, we we have problems.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
We probably do. We probably have to have a family meeting.
I do not want to be invited to that meeting.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You're not You're the the weird middle aged guy who's
showing your feet to a thirteen year old Gary's Grippers.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is she twelve or thirteen? Twelve?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay she just turned twelve? Yes, yeah, okay. I get confused.
And that's a big jump to make, and I shouldn't
have given her that jump. We're not there, not there yet,
We are not there yet. God, twelve, it's like the
it's like the final final year.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
I know.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Oh my gosh, what's happening? I don't know?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Okay, maybe I'll bring her to the news and Bruce,
I would love that awful idea. I would love that shot.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Shot shot.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Zelenski and Trump are still in the gold plated Oval
Office among their counterparts European leaders and Team Trump, Mark Rubio,
jd Vance. We'll get into all of the developments out
of the Oval Office coming up after Heather's news at the.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I'm fascinated by this story because I wonder how many
other people have weird pieces of history just stuck in
their eyes box somewhere they don't know how valuable it is.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I love going through stuff. This is going to sound morbid,
but it's often when people die, it's awful. Often when
people die, you're going through their old things, whether it's
grandparents or unfortunately parents in some situations, or anybody else.
And not that it's not unfortunate when your grandparents die,
(27:52):
but you're kind of ready for it, right, you're more
ready for it. But just the pictures alone, the pictures
of and they were young, and the way the street looked,
or the way the cars were, old newspapers, old postcards,
all of the things are just so fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And you wonder how.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Many pieces of history that are interesting to all of us,
like you said, are in some of these boxes like
this for example.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, and there's not a lot, I mean specifically, there's
not a lot in this that changes the stories that
we already know. But Tracy Lynn was helping her fiance
unpacked books during a move last year in Hemet, and
she came upon a very large book with stained pages,
and it said on the spine of the book it
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said US Navy Yards and Naval Stations and the words
government Bindery on its website, And inside was handwritten account
of the weather, the tides, and a bunch of other
stuff for several months in nineteen forty one and nineteen four,
specifically the comings and goings, the arrivals, the departures of
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ships at US Navy Yard Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So she flips through it, thinking, huh, Pearl Harbor, And
there on pages two eighty two and two eighty three
were entries four December sixth and December seventh, nineteen forty one,
under remarks that heading someone had written in penn zero
seven five to five Japanese aircraft and Submarines attacked Pearl
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Harbor and other military and naval objectives that was logged
kept in the log book the attack on Pearl Harbor,
just like any other comings and goings of other previous days.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, and it's it didn't end there. I mean, this
was the sixteen months before and after the attack. So again,
like I said, it doesn't change the story of what
we already know about the attack on Pearl Harbor, which
got us wholeheartedly into World War Two. It's that in
the Pacific, but we don't have anything similar to this.
(30:09):
I mean, this kind of adds context and color to
what we had. This couple again, Tracy Lennard or fiance
are from Hemmett and it said basically, the book verifies
the story of Pearl Harbor, not that anybody needed it
to be verified necessarily. But the logbook also mentions the
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second attack on Pearl Harbor, which was March fourth, nineteen
forty two. It would have been just after midnight. They
This is again remarks written in Penn in the book
received report of unidentified planes approximately fifty miles away at
fifty assumed condition one seventeen oh five. Three shots and
(30:52):
whistling projectiles heard seventeen ten, received report that two fragments
of bombs hit a stern of USS order law. They
said visibility was poor for the Japanese pilots that night.
The attack really didn't do a whole lot of damage.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
But all of this.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Just a glimpse into history that is so important to
this country.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I love how it says the pages for December sixth
and seven have brown stains, apparently from a liquid. Could
it have been coffee spilled by some frantic officer?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Like, what the hell is that? Spill? Spill? Spell?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
The book more than eighty years old, saved by.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
The late mother.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, And it turns out during the seventies, mom was
a civilian employee at Norton Air Force Base what the
old Norton Air Force Base there in San Bernardino, And
one day saw the book in a trash bin, thought
it was interesting and asked if she could have it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
They said, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, he says. She
brought it home to me. I was like fifteen or so.
I've had it ever since. It's just been in a box.
The last few years I moved here, it's just been
in that box. I don't really looked into it. Mom
died in two thousand. Archives officials say they don't know
how the book might have gotten from a Navy base
at Pearl Harbor to the trash at an air base
in California. But were there other log books in the
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same trash? Wow, your dad probably had some good secrets.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, it probably still does wherever he is. He's keeping
him secret.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I found old driver's licenses, which was kind of funny
because they are nothing like they make them nowadays. No holograms. No,
I mean our first driver's licenses were far more technologically
advanced than their's.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Word Yeah, thirties, fifties.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Michael says, Dennis is probably thinking about the thought of
Gary's feet.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
See, now you've made it weird. I didn't you have
at it to be weird.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We're all going to see your feet at News and
brus on Thursday, lucky you. Now, do you have the
flexibility where you can like hold it up, you know,
if you're standing up, you can kind of hold your
leg up so we can all get a glimpse. Or
are people just going to come over and touch them
on the ground. Nobody's touching that, No.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
One's touching them. Question Mark. Maybe this is so weird.
I blame you one thousand percent for whatever happens.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
If you would have been forthcoming with your feet in
the past ten years, this won't be a thing just because.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm not a foot slut like you are showing them
off to anybody wants to see them. That's true. I
am a bit of a foot flat swamp. Watch when
we come back to Gary and Shammon.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
President Zelenski of Ukraine is due at the White House
in a few minutes for this big, huge, high stakes meeting.
He's there along with several European leaders to meet with
President Trump and talk about what went on in the
Trump Putin summit from last Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So we'll keep it eye on that.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This Gavin Newsome thing going back and forth about how
his press people have now taken to the Donald Trump
style of tweeting with the all caps and the thank
you for your attention to this matter and referring to
himself as Gavin Christopher Newsom and all that. There was
a there was a post from over the weekend Gavin
(00:49):
Newsom versus JD Vance in high school, and it was
an image of both of these two guys. Gavin Newsom
looking very dapper in a you know, with a scarf around,
reading a newspaper, and the image of JD Vance was
him standing in a bathroom with two girls pretending to
(01:11):
pee in urinals.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
My gun.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And then somebody responds to that with Gavin Newsom versus JD.
Vance after high school graduation, and there's this picture of
a frosted tips looking Gavin Newsom with his arms crossed,
looking like it pretending to be a tough guy, and
then JD. Vance in his full marine dress uniform. This
(01:36):
is the idea that people look at that and feel like, oh,
this makes my team better, stronger. It's it's the dumbing.
It the complete dumbing down of us as voters. But
also you're ruining whatever sort of goodwill you may have had.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Paul Harvey would call it the dumbing of a Maria. Yes,
Gavin Newsome has taken up the redistricting mantle and I
kind of went after him for doing so last week,
telling him to the something to the effect of nobody cares.
That's not going to get you more votes, and you
(02:18):
so Astuteley said something to the effect of he wants
to be taken seriously by other Democrats around the country.
And then every other opinion writer over the weekend basically
said the same thing. This is Newsome trying to get
to the big kids table and show that he's more
than just a nice haircut.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He wants people to think.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He can tackle and tackle Trump head on with.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
These weighty issues that affect.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The entire country, like redistricting. It is a gamble, as
people have been pointing out, it is a gamble. A
special election is a gamble. If he is a failure here,
then he goes right back to square one on Candy Land.
In terms of oh I would running for president, I
(03:07):
would say he goes.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He's off the board. I don't even think he goes
to square one.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
If he loses this fight, he's done, and he's going
to become an afterthought when it comes to at least nationally,
he's going to become an afterthought when it comes to politics.
He may get some sort of fancy cabinet position if
a Democrat is chosen as president next time around or
in some future administration.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But he can't.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
He is You can't walk up to the bully and
pretend to be the hero and swing and miss.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You're gonna get your ass handed DOWNE.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So here, if you have him, then paying attention. Here's
how it all started. Trump started putting pressure on Republicans
in Texas to revise that state's congressional district lines. Why well,
Trump remembers the fact that the Rebublicans lost the House
majority in twenty eighteen during his first term, making things
(04:05):
much more difficult. You had two impeachments, You had endless oversight,
hearing subpoenas of his staff, all the things that Trump hates,
all the domestic legislation he wanted to pass, roadblock, roadblock, roadblock,
So a new map in Texas could shift as many
as five seats in favor of the Republicans. That could
(04:27):
make the difference in who controls the chamber. I mean,
you think of Texas and you think Republican asked an answered,
But when you get down to the nitty.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Gritty, these seats matter.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
These blue seats need to be read for the Republicans
to do what they want to do with both Houses
of Congress. Gavin Newsom decides to enter the fray, and
he is now pushing California's legislature to redistrict US and
eliminate our nine Republican strongholds. Now, Gavin Newsom insists that
(05:02):
this move is intended to save the democracy, to kind
of counteract what's happening in Texas with California, and that
way we can control we being the Democrats, in his mind,
can can control Congress.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The president can be you know.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Whoever they want to will act, Donald Trump, you know,
Santa Claus, whatever. But if you've got both houses of Congress,
Santa Claus can't gets done. You've got to have the
power of Congress. So it is a big boy fight,
and it is a fight that matters for Democrats across
the country more so than who the president is. They
(05:41):
want control of those houses. They live on it. This
is their blood, is what they fight for. But can
Gavin Newsom move the ball across the line, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
He's got a bunch of things going against him. We've
got to talk.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
About the special election, about how that faces an uphill climb.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, it's first of all, that's just I mean, among
other things, it's money.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's money the state doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to emerge as the
face of the anti redistricting. The polls already show this
thing is behind where it needs to be.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, we're getting answers as to why there was nothing
in Brad Pitt's home when it was broken into, it
was already in the process of being sold apparently moved.
Oubt it is officially on its way to a new owner.
The La Home. This is the three bedroom, two bathroom
Lows feelis property that everyone's posting pictures of. To your point,
(06:46):
why do we keep doing this? It is currently in
escrow and is off It's an off the market deal
where there was a flurry of interest as soon as
word got out. But the home considering the home as
Hollywood history, and you know Brad Pitt lived there.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's called the Steelhouse.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He purchased it from Eileen Getty, who bought it from
James Valentine of Maroon five back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do you want to see we have an audio from
the White House. The President is hosting President Zelenski.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Sure, and everybody dresses the same. If your team Trump,
You've got your navy suit and your red tie, and
that's the uniform.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's Marco Rubio, It's JD. Vans and Donald Trump all
in the same outfit.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
If we're doing outfit talk, because Zelenski, by the way,
is not wearing a suit, but he is.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Wearing just a short while ago with the president of.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Rush Jacket like boys, and I.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Think there's a possibility that something could come out of it.
And today's meeting is very important. We have I guess
the seven seven very powerful leaders from Europe and we're
going to be meeting with them right after this meeting.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
And thank you very much for being here. Thanks so much,
mister President. If I can, first of all, thank you.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
For invitation, and thank you very much for your efforts
our God the levers to stop killings and stop this work.
Thank you and using this opportunity.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Many thanks to your wife.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Firstly doing the United States, she send a letter to
put in about our children abducted children, and.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
My wife she firstly do with Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
She gave the letters it's not to you to your wife.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yeah. Yeah, So we have said this sensitive topic.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Yes please, And thanks to our partners and that you.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Supported this format.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And after our medium week and a half leaders who
are around US, UK and France, jemmany feel that Eunavia,
I mean all all partners around Ukraine supporting us. Thanks
for them, Thank you very much for invitation, Thank you very.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Much for being here, our President Trump crazy yes, Peter Gold,
thank you President Trump. So President Lenski.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Do you say in a post next today, Russia must
end this war which itself started, President Trump, You say,
President Zelenski, Ukraine can end the world with Russia almost
immediately if he wants to. Which is it?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
No, I think that's true. I think Phil, we're gonna
have a meeting.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I think, well, if everything works out well today, we'll
have a try lad and I think there will be
a reasonable chance of ending the war when we do that.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Okay, Is this the end of the road for American support?
Where you pram is today's meeting deal or no deal?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I can never say that. It's never the end of
the road. People are being killed and we want to
stop that. So I would not say it's the end
of the road. No, I think we have a good
chance of doing it. It's been almost forty years now
that a lot of people were killed last week.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
A lot of people last week. I mean millions of people.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Killed, but a lot of people last week for whatever reason,
a big number, a lot of soldiers.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Both on both sides.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And I know the president, I know myself, and I
believe Vladimir Putin wants to see it ended.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And as you have a Putin on Friday.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Say you've got President Zelenski here, as you listen to
Russia and Ukraine, which side has the better cars?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, I don't want to say that. I'm just going
to I'm just here to be Look, this isn't my war.
This is Joe Biden's war. He's the one that had
a lot to do with this happening, and we want
to get it ended.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
And we wanted to end good for everybody. We wanted
to end good.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
The people of Ukraine have suffered incredibly.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
President, President Zelenski, are you prepared to keep sending Ukrainian
troops to their debts for another couple of years or
are you going to agree to redraw a mass?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Thank you for your questions. So, first of all, you
know we live under each day at Teme. You know
that today have been a lot.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Of texts and a lot of wounded people.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
And the child was that small one one one year
and a half. So we need to stop this world,
to stop Russia, and we need support American and European partners.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
We will do our best for this.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
So and I think we show that we are strong
people and we supported the idea of the United States
of personally President Trump to stop this war, to make
a diplomatic way of finishing this war, and we are
ready for trilateral As President said, this is a good
thing about Traila.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I think this is very good.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Thank you want if the peace deal will be achieved,
are you going to be willing to send American peacekeepers
to Ukraine?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
So we're going to work with Ukraine. We're going to
work with everybody, and.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
We're going to make sure that if there's piece, the
piece is going to stay long term.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
This is very long term.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We're not talking about a two year piece and then
we end up in this mess again.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
We're going to make sure that everything's good.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
We'll work with Russia, we're going to work with Ukraine,
and we're going to make sure it works.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
And I think if we can get to peace, it's
going to work. I have no doubt about it. Your
team is going ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Your team has talked about security guarantees.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Could that involve US troops?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Would you roll that out in the future.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
We'll let you know that maybe later today. We're meeting
with seven great leaders. If great country is also and
we'll be talking about that, they'll all be involved. But
there'll be a lot of there'll be a.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Lot of help. When it comes to security, there's going
to be a lot of help. It's going to be good.
They are the first line of defense because they're.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
There the Europe, but we're going to help them out also,
we'll be involved.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So what do you what.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
You mentioned that the war will not end without addressing
the root cause of this warm Do you have you
had an understanding?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
What are the root causes of this warm?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well, look, if the war's gonna end, when it ends,
I can't tell you, but the war is going to end,
and this gentleman wants it to end, and Vladimir Bouton
wants it to end. I think the whole world is
tired of it and we're gonna get it ended. It
was uh, you know, I've done six wars. I've ended
six wars, and I thought this maybe would be the
easiest one. M And it's not the easiest one. It's uh,
(13:29):
it's a it's a tough one. UH A lot of
uh lot of uh reasons for it. And they'll be
talking about it for a long time, but they'll be
talking about the others. Look, India, Pakistan, we're talking about uh,
the big places. When you look at uh, you just
take a look at some of these wars. You go
to Africa and take.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
A look at that Rwanda and the.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Congo, Republic of the Condo, Congo.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
That's been going on for thirty one years.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And so we've done a total of six that we
really have by a sixth not included the fact that
we obliterated.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
And it's turned out to be a total obliteration.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
The nuclear and as you said, the nuclear the future
nuclear capability of Iran, and.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
This one I think we're going to get solved. Also,
I think I feel confident we're going to get it solve.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
President Trump there with Voldemyr Zelensky of Ukraine in the
Oval Office ahead of their big meeting. I can't I
can't think of any time there have been this many
European leaders at the White House.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
At one time for any reason.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So it's nothing else that's that is pretty significantly. That
was funny where he said the Republic of Condo, because
I guarantee you that man has said more than Congo millions.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh my god, I didn't even.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Pick up it's funny, just a little miss misspeak there,
my god. So he says they are talking about a
long term piece deal and he knows Trump does that
this is not possible without having European support.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
European leaders there.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's why, that's why it's a full house there at
the at the White House today.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
To put a bow on the Gavin Newsom discussion. And
we couldn't talk more about it obviously throughout the week
because it will remain in the news. The major problem
for Gavin Newsome with this redistricting effort in California to
kind of offset what they're doing in Texas in terms
of stealing seats away from the Democrats, he wants to
steal away from the Republicans here in California. A new poll,
(15:34):
this is Politico Citron finds it Californian's favor keeping the commission,
the Independent Redistricting Commission, by a wide margin. Most people
don't want politicians drawing up the districts. They want this
independent commission, which is I think the way it should be, right,
sixty four percent to thirty six percent. I don't know
(15:56):
if the poll takes into account. Yeah, but what if
they play around in Texas and the Democrats have no
chance of holding Book Chambers.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Gavin Newsom's office also said that the pole question itself
wasn't worded correct. Yeah, so listen, it is an uphill
battle because if nothing else, opponents of it, all you
have to do is say, voters in California twice wanted
to take away district drawing capability from the legislature. It's
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too self serving for them to be in the control
of it, and in fact give it up to an
independent commission. That's one of the reasons why Governor Schwarzenegger.
Former Governor Schwarzenegger is so hip on this because this
happened during his term. This is something he pushed for.
So I there is going to be some public support
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simply for the idea that you're saving democracy. I mean,
both sides are going to claim that. Gavin Newsom says
he's saving democracy by not allowing Texas to do that
without some sort of retribution. Others say, you're saving democracy
by giving voters the choice. Here, the voters are the
ones who choose whether or not it should be en
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up to an independent commission.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So the LAPD has a grim reaper amongst its ranks
and internal affairs detective. This one's got Hollywood written all
over it, doesn't It this story will tell you about
the Grim Reaper and why he's called that. When we return,
Garian Shannon will continue.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
President Trump and Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski sitting in the
Oval Office taking questions right now just about what the
plan is for the rest of the day. European leaders
have joined Zelenski and we'll be meeting with President Trump
to talk about, among other things, what was discussed Friday
between Trump and putin the potential security guarantees that are
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being looked at, where you t Crane wouldn't join NATO,
but would be promised some amount of protection similar to
Article five in NATO, which basically says an attack on
any of us is an attack on all of us,
and then everybody gets to come to their defense.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
So we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
What sort of landswap plans there would be, if any,
to get that deal for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
One of the jokes in the New Naked Gun is
at the expense of eternal affairs, and of course internal
affairs is often vilified by the name of police agency
here and the LAPD may be no different. LAPD Sergeant
Joseph Lloyd is an internal affairs detective has been assigned
(18:45):
to investigate several of LAPD's biggest scandals. He is known
in the department as the Grim Reaper. He is a
veteran internal affairs detective. He seems to delight in this
the way an HOA president delights in telling you your
plants are not uniform with everyone else's plants. What he
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likes being a nark ah got it? You know you're
kind Wait what you were an ra in the dorms?
You also have nark blood go on. But his supporters
maintain that his dogged pursuit of the truth, as it's
described in the La Times, is why he has been
(19:30):
entrusted with what they are calling at the LAPD's most
politically sensitive and potentially embarrassing cases.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
He's fifty two.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He has declined to comment for the LA Time story,
but they talked to more than half a dozen current
or former police officers who either worked alongside the Grim
Reaper or fell under his scrutiny.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He's investigating cops of all ranks.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
There was an anti gang squad out of the valley
that was accused of covering up shakedowns and motorists, and
he was assigned to a task force looking into allegations
of excessive force by police against activists who opposed the
government's immigration crackdown. He has become the face of this
(20:14):
debate over the discipline system that exists in the LAPD,
and for decades probably has been getting has been criticized.
The union has long complained that senior leaders will get
favorable treatment by internal affairs. Others say rank and file
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cops who commit misconduct are routinely let off the hook.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Chief Jim McDonald came in and commissioned a study and
he found or the study the people they carried out.
The study found that the perceived unfairness in internal investigations
is the real deal, a serious point of contention among officers,
and it's contributed to the low morale and the department. Now,
(21:01):
if you are looking at the LAPD, there's no shortage
of low morale.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
We're all stucked up here.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Who wants to be a police officer in this day
and age when everyone thinks that you're racist and you're awful,
and you're out there to hurt people and be racist.
No longer does the police come with the reputation of hey,
we're here to help, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
No, So already there's low.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Morale that you've got to come in as Jim McDonald
and boost back up, and then you've got low morale
from the inside. In the form of contention about internal affairs,
McDonald said he wants to speed up investigations better screen complaints,
but that hasn't happened. There have been efforts to do so,
(21:45):
and he's kind of met some roadblocks there, or other
chiefs have met some roadblocks.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They use a one example, Sarah Dunster, a sergeant working
in the Hollywood Division at LAPD. So you learned that
she was under investigation because she was accused him as
handling a complaint against one of her officers. The officer
was accused of groping a woman that he had arrested.
So she says she remembers being interviewed by Lloyd and
the question seemed designed to trip her up and catch
(22:12):
her in a lie rather than just figuring out an
account of what happened. And she said some of the
responses that she gave never even made it into the
guy's report. He wanted to fire me. She said she
was terminated over the incident, but she appealed superior court
judge did grant a reprieve that allowed her to potentially
get her job back. I mean, that's if she would
(22:34):
even want to go back.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Some guys, gals, everyone say that Sergeant Joseph Lloyd, the
grim raper, is just a fall guy that the bucks
star stops with whoever the police chief is at the time,
and he's just the guy that gets blamed for all
of this. On more than one occasion, Internal Affairs received
complaints from senior department officials who thought that this guy
(22:57):
did not show them enough deference during entearations. Other supporters
point to his willingness to take on controversial cases to
hold officers accountable, even when facing character attacks from his colleagues.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
He is a true believer and he is going to
do what is right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Although not obviously politically advantageous for him, are palatable among
the ranks in the department.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
We're going to get to talk to Chief Jim McDonnell about,
you know, if there is low mora morale in the department,
if this is one of the factors, and what that
they can do to kind of raise that get people
to want to wear the badge again, want to work
in the LAPD because they are below the levels they
want to be at. And part of that's budget issues,
(23:45):
but part of that's it's hard to sign up to
want to be a cop these days.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It started as budget issues.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I remember when Vira Gosa was mayor, he talked about
having a desire to have ten thousand the level the
sort of magic number was it about ten thousand sworn officers, right,
And I mean that was fifteen years ago and they
have not been able to reach that number. Add into that,
like you said, sort of the deteriorating confidence, in the
(24:09):
deteriorating image that police have gotten unfairly, then you're gonna
have an uphill client.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You've said a couple times today that we are manifesting happiness.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Manifesting happiness?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
What led to this this mood you bring?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
My wife said, we're going to manifest it this morning
because too often you start the week and you're in
a bad space, negative place.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So maybe happiness.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Manifesting means putting it out there so the universe puts
it back.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Damn right, it gives it to us. Damn right?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Are you doing anything actively to manifest happiness other than.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Just saying it. I'm smiling right now. Are you having
some quiet time with your thoughts? I'm smiling. Okay, that's
not a real smile. Yes it is. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But sometimes you can fake it. You can fake smile
till it makes you happy. About eight seconds of a
smile supposed to give you a real one. I'm still
waiting for your real one. I'm excited because I've decided
what we're going to do to make this news and
Bruise on Thursday special.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What are we going to do? Well, we have a
news and Bruce.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's going to be at BJ's right there on Beach Boulevard,
right off the four or five and Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Get to join us.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
We're going to dress up for football season because it
is upon us. We're like, what twenty days away, nineteen.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Something like that. It's it's going to be here.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's going to be here tomorrow basically, and Gary's going
to unveil his feet. We're all going to see Gary's
feet together as a family on Thursday at BJ's. Oh
my yep, yeah, promise. I haven't seen these things ever
ten years. I haven't seen his feet. He's been protective
of them for whatever reason. And we're all going to
get a glimpse of these things together.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Gary's Grippers. Yeah, Gary's Grippers. Can I get a photo
with them? You sure can, Elmer, we're your only fans.
What is happening? My daughter calls them grippers, So we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
We're Gary's Feet in particular, Gary's group, No, just in general. Oh,
if she's talking about Gary's feet, we we have problems.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
We probably do. We probably have to have a family meeting.
I do not want to be invited to that meeting.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You're not You're the the weird middle aged guy who's
showing your feet to a thirteen year old Gary's Grippers.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is she twelve or thirteen? Twelve?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay she just turned twelve? Yes, yeah, okay. I get confused.
And that's a big jump to make, and I shouldn't
have given her that jump. We're not there, not there yet,
We are not there yet. God, twelve, it's like the
it's like the final final year.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
I know.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Oh my gosh, what's happening? I don't know?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Okay, maybe I'll bring her to the news and Bruce,
I would love that awful idea. I would love that shot.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Shot shot.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Zelenski and Trump are still in the gold plated Oval
Office among their counterparts European leaders and Team Trump, Mark Rubio,
jd Vance. We'll get into all of the developments out
of the Oval Office coming up after Heather's news at the.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I'm fascinated by this story because I wonder how many
other people have weird pieces of history just stuck in
their eyes box somewhere they don't know how valuable it is.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I love going through stuff. This is going to sound morbid,
but it's often when people die, it's awful. Often when
people die, you're going through their old things, whether it's
grandparents or unfortunately parents in some situations, or anybody else.
And not that it's not unfortunate when your grandparents die,
(27:52):
but you're kind of ready for it, right, you're more
ready for it. But just the pictures alone, the pictures
of and they were young, and the way the street looked,
or the way the cars were, old newspapers, old postcards,
all of the things are just so fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And you wonder how.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Many pieces of history that are interesting to all of us,
like you said, are in some of these boxes like
this for example.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, and there's not a lot, I mean specifically, there's
not a lot in this that changes the stories that
we already know. But Tracy Lynn was helping her fiance
unpacked books during a move last year in Hemet, and
she came upon a very large book with stained pages,
and it said on the spine of the book it
(28:43):
said US Navy Yards and Naval Stations and the words
government Bindery on its website, And inside was handwritten account
of the weather, the tides, and a bunch of other
stuff for several months in nineteen forty one and nineteen four,
specifically the comings and goings, the arrivals, the departures of
(29:07):
ships at US Navy Yard Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So she flips through it, thinking, huh, Pearl Harbor, And
there on pages two eighty two and two eighty three
were entries four December sixth and December seventh, nineteen forty one,
under remarks that heading someone had written in penn zero
seven five to five Japanese aircraft and Submarines attacked Pearl
(29:35):
Harbor and other military and naval objectives that was logged
kept in the log book the attack on Pearl Harbor,
just like any other comings and goings of other previous days.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, and it's it didn't end there. I mean, this
was the sixteen months before and after the attack. So again,
like I said, it doesn't change the story of what
we already know about the attack on Pearl Harbor, which
got us wholeheartedly into World War Two. It's that in
the Pacific, but we don't have anything similar to this.
(30:09):
I mean, this kind of adds context and color to
what we had. This couple again, Tracy Lennard or fiance
are from Hemmett and it said basically, the book verifies
the story of Pearl Harbor, not that anybody needed it
to be verified necessarily. But the logbook also mentions the
(30:30):
second attack on Pearl Harbor, which was March fourth, nineteen
forty two. It would have been just after midnight. They
This is again remarks written in Penn in the book
received report of unidentified planes approximately fifty miles away at
fifty assumed condition one seventeen oh five. Three shots and
(30:52):
whistling projectiles heard seventeen ten, received report that two fragments
of bombs hit a stern of USS order law. They
said visibility was poor for the Japanese pilots that night.
The attack really didn't do a whole lot of damage.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
But all of this.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Just a glimpse into history that is so important to
this country.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I love how it says the pages for December sixth
and seven have brown stains, apparently from a liquid. Could
it have been coffee spilled by some frantic officer?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Like, what the hell is that? Spill? Spill? Spell?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
The book more than eighty years old, saved by.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
The late mother.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, And it turns out during the seventies, mom was
a civilian employee at Norton Air Force Base what the
old Norton Air Force Base there in San Bernardino, And
one day saw the book in a trash bin, thought
it was interesting and asked if she could have it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
They said, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, he says. She
brought it home to me. I was like fifteen or so.
I've had it ever since. It's just been in a box.
The last few years I moved here, it's just been
in that box. I don't really looked into it. Mom
died in two thousand. Archives officials say they don't know
how the book might have gotten from a Navy base
at Pearl Harbor to the trash at an air base
in California. But were there other log books in the
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same trash? Wow, your dad probably had some good secrets.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, it probably still does wherever he is. He's keeping
him secret.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I found old driver's licenses, which was kind of funny
because they are nothing like they make them nowadays. No holograms. No,
I mean our first driver's licenses were far more technologically
advanced than their's.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Word Yeah, thirties, fifties.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Michael says, Dennis is probably thinking about the thought of
Gary's feet.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
See, now you've made it weird. I didn't you have
at it to be weird.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We're all going to see your feet at News and
brus on Thursday, lucky you. Now, do you have the
flexibility where you can like hold it up, you know,
if you're standing up, you can kind of hold your
leg up so we can all get a glimpse. Or
are people just going to come over and touch them
on the ground. Nobody's touching that, No.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
One's touching them. Question Mark. Maybe this is so weird.
I blame you one thousand percent for whatever happens.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
If you would have been forthcoming with your feet in
the past ten years, this won't be a thing just because.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm not a foot slut like you are showing them
off to anybody wants to see them. That's true. I
am a bit of a foot flat swamp. Watch when
we come back to Gary and Shammon.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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