May 27, 2025 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome back Tuesday, May twenty seventh. Oh,
you've got a bit of a gravelly voice. Have you
been smoking cigarettes or just not talking very much? I
have a poll up on my I have I have
a it just like what's your face Miley Cyrus? Yes,
(00:21):
thank you, Yeah, that's what No, I just it.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Have you smoked cigarettes? It's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Probably not heard that you say that, though, because I
did have a dream that I smoked cigarettes this weekend, y.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Which is odd because maybe you've got a little bit
of a scratchy throat or I don't know something's going
on there.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, did you use your voice a lot? Did your
wife let you talk?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Or no? Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
In the cage again this all weekend? Because a long week.
I can't be a lot with us.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
After Friday, we really I didn't really say much on
the drive home from from Bravery on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I said nothing.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I had Well, if you were.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There by yourself, so you have I mean Lis, I
my wife so she could fill the conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Space and I had a solid two hour drive home
of silence.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So that was lovely. It was such a beautiful drive.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It always is a thank you to everyone who came
out and for Bravery Brewing, for hosting us yet again,
always a great time. I mean, it's just gorgeous. It's
the perfect kick off to summer because it feels like summer.
That weather up there was, Yeah, it was pretty great.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Are you ready to feel old?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Bring it before we talk about domestic violence on the
world stage?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Can I get a little bit of America music?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
All right? Do you remember as a youth? You were
an older youth than I.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Was, but I remembered a great time in American history
when we were the top of the top. And as
a woman, it meant a little bit more to a
young me seeing Mary.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Lou rettin Ah, seeing.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That balance beam routine, seeing that awful haircut that we
all had, and knowing that America was number one.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And this little girl who was not a little girl
to me at the.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Time but was an idol, was leading that charge. And
she was strong and she was brave, and she was
mighty though little.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
And it was Mary lou.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Retton, and she was on the cover of our cereal boxes,
and she had those gold medals.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And Bella Coroli. Before we knew that he was a monster.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
He was so proud.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He was such a proud second father.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't know if she had a first father, but
there he was in his tracksuit and we were all
rejoicing as Americans.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And now now we're so old that.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Mary lou Retton can't talk her ass out of a DUI.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, you pull over Mary lourett You don't let her go.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Chances are or whoever pulled her over didn't know who she.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Was exactly my points.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
She's like, I'm Mary Louretton, and the cop who's like
twenty seven is like, I don't marry lou what?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And I'm Officer Bergstrom? What's your point?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Lady?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
In Marion County, West Virginia, May seventeenth, Dy, my god,
where have we.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Gone as a country? Didn't she was close to she
had some health problems.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
You had pneumonia?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think she had some Do you think she had
a GoFundMe? Page? Things have not been great. Remember her
family had said that she was near the end, and.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
They started a whole GoFundMe or mills and stuff that
was very strange.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That was story. I never found out what was wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah she recovered, that's good.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well did she well, I mean from the sickness, right, yeah,
I was, but then got right back into the bottle.
America fifty seven. Mary Leuretten is fifty seven years old.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
This video that has.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Made its way around the world over the last twenty
four hours is I fully believe it is one of
the funniest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And I believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And it's because I don't want to say they're just
like us, because I've never struck my husband in the
face purposefully. I may have done it when I'm sleeping.
I know I've done it when I've slept, but a
couple of times he's like, you really hit the hell
out of me. But not everybody has any sort of
domestic violence, even playfully, if that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Not everybody has that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But it's nice to see a real moment, albeit violent,
from a world leader and his wife, and just the
whole backstory of them, of her being his teacher and
having like twenty something years on him, twenty four years,
twenty four years on him, and just like slapping him
like a little boy. Like, I loved all of it.
The fact that she is so thin. That must be cigarettes, right,
(04:44):
what is Yeah, that's legs are literal little match sticks.
But anyway, just the whole pageantry of the French Force
one or whatever it is they travel on, and the
red jacket in the you know, striking him in the
face and him looking like the little schoolboy that he was, like.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The whole thing to me, I just want to eat
it all up.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So French President of Manuel Macrone and his wife had
just touched down in the northern Vietnamese city of Hanoi
for an official visit. This was late Sunday night, the
local time, and you see the door open. I don't
know if it's a seven forty seven, but it's a
big airplane. So the big door opens and you see
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the French president there kind of getting ready to walk
out of the airplane. What you then see is a
person who's kind of blocked by a doorway or whatever,
dressed in red with red sleeves, and then whacking the
French president in the face. Now did she push him,
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did she smack him? Did she hit him? It does it,
but he's kind of taken aback by it. As you
would be, and then realizes the door's open, and all
of the TV cameras.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Saw all of it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Right now, Hey, he told reporters, we are bickering and
joking with my wife and a video becomes a sort
of geoplanetary catastrophe. In the world we live in, we
don't have a lot of time to lose on discussing
such topics.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
She kind of takes both hands, fingers out stretched, and
she's a tiny little woman, and she kind of just
shoves him in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
To the point where he goes back a little bit.
You know, everything's different in France.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
They smoke cigarettes, they do everything with more passion. They
have the affairs, they it's a very French different world
over there.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Maybe you can smack your husband in the face like that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And it's no big thing, But you can also cheat
on your wife. So why wouldn't that Why wouldn't there
be a little bit of payback? Yeah, I don't know
if he did.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I don't think he's cheating on her. I think we
all know that now that that would not go well.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That was a fun, big deal. There is more serious
stuff that's going on. President Trump says that he is
not happy with Vladimir pup?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
What did he think was going to happen?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That he and Putin would be friends and then they
would just be in line with all their thinking. Putin
is a grown man, and just as Trump is a
grown man. You are set in your ways. When you
become a certain age, especially even more so for a
man who is aging, you become more set in your.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Ways more so.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And the idea that Vladimir Putin would capitulate to anything
Trump would say or want is absurd. And Trump should
know that first and foremost, because he's exactly the same way.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
They're very similar people. Granted one of them is a
war criminal and the other is not. But I don't
understand the ego portion of what he's been doing with this.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, it's you, nail it. It's all ego.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's thinking that somebody was your friend and is going
to do what you want, and that's not dropping.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That as like I thought we were friends and thinking
that that's going to make an impact.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This goes back to girls in high school.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
All right, more on this Ukraine Russia stuff when we
come back.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Some stories that we are following today. National Public Radio
sued President Trump today over the executive order that would
have ceased all federal funding for NPR. The May first Order,
they say, violates the First Amendments protections of speech and
the Press, and steps on the authority of Congress. There
was a car that ran through a crowd of Liverpool
(08:49):
soccer fans, left nearly fifty people injured. They said that
that may have gotten onto the Liverpool street by tailgating
an ambulance. People was the last latest number, including four kids, injured,
after the car appeared to speed through the crowd of
hundreds of people on Water Street as they were celebrating Liverpool.
(09:10):
And then Lelo and Stitch and Mission Impossible Final reckoning
record setting for a Memorial Day weekend. Lelo and Stitch,
they said, brought in one hundred and eighty three million
dollars in its opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We've got a new testimony in the Diddy trial that
provides more dirty details of this entire realm of crazy
that existed with Diddy and the circle that in the
concentric circles that surrounded him, his relationships, how he treated
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a people that he was with that he employed all
of the things. More dirty details come up. We will
get into it coming up. After the news at the
bottom of the.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Hour, Ukraine's western allies, including the UK and the US,
have agreed to lift all remaining range restrictions on the
use of their weapons. President Trump issued his strongest criticism
of Vladimir Putin yet. The move was announced after President
Trump posted on truth social that Putin has gone crazy
(10:14):
and that he is still needlessly killing a lot of people.
He was asked about this jumping off of Air Force one.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a
lot of people, and I don't know what the hell
happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always
gotten along with him. But he's sending rockets into cities
and killing people, and I don't like him at all. Okay,
we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets
and to Kiev and other cities.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't like it at all, not even a little bit,
he said.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But Putin's gonna say whatever he wants to say to
get what he wants.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's he is a manipulator, is what I don't get about.
Trump In this situation is he knows how to play
that game. Trump knows how to play the game of
say whatever you have to say to get whatever you
need to exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And why he wouldn't see that in Putin is insane
to me. If somebody's supposed to know Putin's game or
should know Putin's game, it's Donald Trump. He plays the
same one. So this is now this, this is not good.
If these two and and and now Trump's taking this personally,
and uh, if these two are starting to take things personally,
(11:25):
that's World War three stuff, right, That's that's things getting
ugly real quick it. And and imagine this, Zolenski gets
axed because Putin's gun in vers Lensky.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Zelenski gets axed.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Literally, Yeah, he assassinated, Yeah, as opposed to just cut
out of the negotiator, right.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And then that holds Trump's feet to the fire.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, Trump's no fan of Zelenski, but it's a
showing of power from Putin to wipe out the head
of the country he wants to reduce to rubble and
then rule over it.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
General Keith Kellogg.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Stop and then you ventially go to somewhere where you
get all through major leaders of all the parties.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You get the president.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
President putin presidents.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Let's get together and hammer this thing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Out and come to sometimes of signed document that ends
this war. At General Keith Kellogg, there is a special
envoy for Ukraine. It really doesn't divulge a lot of
secrets there in terms of what is coming up next.
The Kremlin, in response to Trump's truth social posts, said
that these were just emotional reactions and that this is
(12:28):
a very critical moment which is fraught with emotional stress
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Ooh, I think we all know when someone's upset in
a relationship not to call that person emotional. We've all
learned that lesson, have we not. It never goes anywhere,
It only goes to bad land.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's one of those It's one of those lessons we
may have to relearn over and over again. I again
this to me. To me, this sounds weak stream on
Trump's part to say that you don't like it, or
I thought we were friends or all of that. That
sounds very weak stream to me. And it reminded me
(13:07):
of that and this whole Yeah, but don't do anything.
What's the alternative? The alternative is immediately telling Vladimir Putin,
get him on the horn.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You can do that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You immediately tell him whatever you thought sanctions were doing
to your economy now ten times worse, one hundred times worse.
Everybody in Europe wants to do the same thing, and
they're waiting for our leadership on this. And instead of
just saying I thought we were friends, or I don't
know what's going to happen, or he's I don't like
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it at all, that is all weak and I'm surprised
that that's the reaction that Trump has given. I'm surprised
he hasn't come back and said very forcefully.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
There's a lot of money to be made there and
Trump's not going to be in the White House forever.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You mean as Russia as a market for Trump post presidency.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
There's a lot of money to be made with an
intact relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I just feel, well, I don't know if that's I
don't know if that's enough for me.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's not enough for you. It shouldn't be enough for you,
But it's the way things.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Are, so we don't know if there are any talks.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
There was a report actually out of out of the
Kremlin this morning that suggested that there had been some
communication because the United States and Russia had allegedly agreed
to another prisoner swap. There were a few hundred prisoners
that were swapped last week, and everybody kind of took
that as a baby step towards some sort of a
(14:45):
ceasefire and potential peace agreement. But not clear if that's
an actual if that's truth coming out of the Kremlin.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, Coming up next, we'll get into the latest details.
Somebody by the name of Capricorn Clark is on the
stand at the Diddy trial. This is a female former
Diddy employee who is talking about details about when did
he discovered that Cassie the girlfriend who is the star
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witness who has laid out all of the freak offs
and the beatings and the druggings and all of it.
Turns out she was in a relationship with kid Coody
Cutty Cutty, old old Old. I Love I love the music,
don't know the name.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I started watching this show.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's a I want to say it's a dateline documentary
type show. Just one episode in I believe it's a series,
not sure how many parts there are, but it's about
romance scams online and it just rips your heart out.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know, these are older people.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Some of them are married, but I mean not older
older people, people in their sixties and seventies, and they're
lonely for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And the.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Scammers are so good in that it's not just those
emails you would get I'm a prince in Nairobi and
I need money for gems to give you, like it's
a legit relationship via text and email and ims and
all that. And it's it's heartbreaking to see people who
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are coming alive at this point in their life because
of this interaction.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Is there how much creativity does it require on the
scammers part.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Come up with all those all compliments The majority is
just bathing them and compliments and attent, just sheer attention.
You don't have to be creative. I mean, these are
people that haven't had attention.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's like one of the women that's featured, you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Know, she raised kids, she's married, she raised kids, kids
are out of the home. She loved having the home
be the centerpiece where all the kids would come, and
the kids' friends would come, and they have the house
everyone would come to.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And then now it's just like she's still with her husband.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They're fine, but you know, they eat dinner in front
of the television. Then he goes and he watches a
game or whatever, and she's bored, and all of a sudden,
you've got you know, she's playing words with friends. I mean,
they're very creative the way they get into it. She
wasn't looking for anything. She's playing words with friends on Facebook,
just like she does for years, and all of a sudden,
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it's a new friend that pops up, and then it's
just normal communication that you would have with anybody else.
And it's awful to see these people realize that it
was all just to get money. But these are smart
women that are featured in this show. They are smart,
accomplished women. And it just it talks. It just it
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highlights like loneliness and whatever and there it's not it's
not a rare thing. It's happening a lot everywhere. And
so we had a story that we found in the
cut about a woman who says, it was only after
my father died that I got access to the conversations
with the creatures who fleeced him. He kept like cataloged
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all the communic hat and loved it, which brings up
the question if it makes him happy, is it that bad?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Well, if he's losing money at it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But it's his money, I don't know. Anyway, we'll talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So. Capricorn Clark is a former employee of Sean Ditty Comb's.
Capricorn Clark has been on the stand today. They're actually
in a short recess in the Manhattan Federal Courthouse where
this is taking place. She Capricorn Clark, said that Diddy
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was armed with a gun and said he wanted to
kill rapper Kid Cutting after did he discovered the Cuddy
was in a relationship with Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Let me get this straight, Seawn Combs, Sean Ditty Combs
would hire male prostitutes to come in and have sex
with his girlfriend for ten hours a piece at a
time frequently, while he would drug her and all of
the things. But he really took issue when she had
a real relationship with somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Right who was also a successful hip hop.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Artist, Broken person. Capricorn Clark said that Combs actually threatened
her with the gun as well. She said, get dress,
We're going to kill that guy. Clark said she tried
to protest, but Diddy said, I don't give a f
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what you want to do that he was livid at
her for not telling Ditty the relationship between Cutty and Ventura.
She said again that he had threatened her multiple times before,
but this was the first time that he appeared at
her house with a weapon. She also testified multiple times
that she saw Combs kicking Cassie Ventura. In fact, the
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way that she described it, she broke down in tears
as she said, did he kicked Cassie Ventura repeatedly down
a driveway, kicking the s out of her with one
hundred percent full force, and then ordered Capricorn Clark to
get out or she would be beaten as well.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I often think about how it should be a requirement,
or you should just know better to require this of yourself.
You become larger than life in life, you become a
Sean did he Combs?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You're titan of your industry.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You're successful, you have money, you have everything you've ever wanted, jets, cars, women, jewelry.
What it is it should be required that you have
a no person right next to you, someone to say
this s has gotten out of control. You're getting out
of control because you can't always rely on the person
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to look and word and be like what the hell
am I doing? You know, because they get they get
to be so big, and they're filled with so many
yes people around them that just enable them to become
freaking monsters.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You know, it's weird that you say that, because one
of the things that she testified to today that Capricorn
Clark testified to was when the defense starts questioning her,
the attorney who did it said we've met before, haven't we.
And I guess there was an interview that was done
last year and what she said to that attorney at
the time was he wouldn't be in this ditty, would
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not be in this mess if he had kept me around,
because I was the no person. I was the person
who told, hey, this is a bad idea. You're getting
yourself into trouble. You're going to cause more problems, which
I think is a kind of a funny way for
her to look at it herself, because she talked about
being completely in fear of this guy, but that she
at the time at least believed that she might have
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been able to control some of his behavior.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, but yeah, how do you pick?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
How do you because if you don't have a no
person all the life you've worked for, you're just going
to ruin it.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
And he clearly didn't have.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I mean, even she says, I mean in that episode
of watching him kick cass Eventura down the driveway, said
she tried to get two of the bodyguards to help out.
They're not going to do anything. They're paid to just
sit there and do nothing because they are there are
no no people around him.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Apparently he gave lie detector tests to his employees as well.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
We should start doing that around here, even if it's
not real. Yeah, just for fuck a nine volt battery
and if you lie. Oh my goodness. I got out
of yoga yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I went to Patriotic Yoga.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They had like sounds of firecrackers and lights and a
lot of good messages of being thankful for people who
have given it all for this country and for us
to be able to do yoga in the middle of
a day on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And I get back in the car and I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
All relaxed and all patriotic and feeling great energized. And
I have the radio on low and I'm like looking
up something on my phone directions to get somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I'm like, what the hell is this? Good Lord, I
turn it up and it's me. I didn't know what.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
We were running like a best of yesterday, but it
was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm like seeing the car of trying to find something.
I'm like, what the hell is it?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
What is shit walking? Chicken?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah? And I was like, oh man, what a real moment.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I didn't do yoga, but I met one hundred
and two year old World War two vet yesterday.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Wow. He and his buddy.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Who's one hundred both of them World War two vets
that were at the memorial?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Who's the no guy in that relationship?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Probably one hundred years?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
One hundred year old? Guys?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I got you gotta just the freak offs on Tuesday,
all right, you guys, like, listen, I made it to
one hundred and two.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
What do you know?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
All right?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
More on that scam of finding out that the eighty
two year old dad had a lot of girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But no love, but it made him happy.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
We have to spend a little bit more time. Maybe
in True Crime Tuesday, we can touch back on this
as well, because I think it affects a lot of people.
Let us know if you or you know somebody who
has been affected by these romance scams, because I think
this is much more prevalent than anyone thinks. It's talking
about this Dateline documentary, I believe it's called something to
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the effect of hey, beautiful, something like that, Like that
was his opening line that he would use all the time.
But I think it's more prevalent than we think. And
in that documentary, it's not just one woman that's scammed.
It's a bevy of women, and it's a bevy of people.
Men or others. Women do this as well, pretend to
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be men who use pictures of real people for their scams.
Those people are victims as well. I mean, imagine your
picture you would be perfect for this being taken, you know,
online somewhere and somebody pretending to be your picture, trustworthy face,
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you know, acceptible, acceptable. I was gonna give you a
compliment right there, and then I pulled back because you
you ruined it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You ruin the moment.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But but you know there's there's men out there where
they have faces where you'd be like, oh, okay, I
can trust this person, and those pictures are being used
to commit these awful crimes. But in the cut there
was an anecdote that was written about and it was
(26:12):
from a writer who says, it was only after my
father died that I got access to his conversations with
I love the way way he writes this, the creatures
who fleeced him. He was so enamored by the members
of what he jokingly called his harem that he printed
the transcripts of their dialogues and filed them in metal
cabinets in his office.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I liked it. Dad was a little inter retentive man.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, he was a transportation engineer or an urban planner.
This is what Dad did. This is how he made
sense of things. This is how he kept his belongings chronicled.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, this, like you said, is more common. I'd love
to know. Send us a talkback if this has happened
to you, or if that maybe this happened to mom
and Dad and you didn't know until later.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Gary and Shannon I'm in my eighties and I have
had several men trying to contact me through Facebook, and
one was like twenty nine years old. And I kind
of played the game with that one and said, you know,
I'm a little too old for you.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, oh I like older women. He said, what a joke.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They are such scammers. They are.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It is important because I mean, I was captivated by
this show and not be not for a purient interest,
for a I want to be on guard. I want
other people to be on guard of this going on,
because it is so human to want a connection with somebody.
That's why Facebook is so popular. It's nice to connect
(27:47):
with people well.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
And it's also we've talked about this many times in
the terms of the wellness aspect of loneliness, that it
has a ridiculously detrimental effect to your physical health if
you find yourself lonely.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Because and that's why we're programmed to seek connection, because
if we don't, we.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Die, right, that's dark, it's true. But let us know.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Hit us up on that talkback feature using the iHeartRadio app.
We'll get into it coming up in the twelve o'clock hour,
and we get into true crime Tuesday more about this
man's life, how he had such a healthy bench, a
harem he called it, of women, and kind of the
question of if this is how people choose to spend
(28:34):
their later years is there.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, that's an interesting aspect that I hadn't thought of maybe, right.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I mean, if he's not losing all of his money.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Like in this show, you're getting interviews from the younger
relatives and the grandkids, and like they took all of
grandma's money or whatever.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Grandma was pretty happy talking this twenty grandma's money. It
ain't your money.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Exactly, you know. So that's it opens up another conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome back Tuesday, May twenty seventh. Oh,
you've got a bit of a gravelly voice. Have you
been smoking cigarettes or just not talking very much? I
have a poll up on my I have I have
a it just like what's your face Miley Cyrus? Yes,
(00:21):
thank you, Yeah, that's what No, I just it.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Have you smoked cigarettes? It's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Probably not heard that you say that, though, because I
did have a dream that I smoked cigarettes this weekend, y.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Which is odd because maybe you've got a little bit
of a scratchy throat or I don't know something's going
on there.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, did you use your voice a lot? Did your
wife let you talk?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Or no? Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
In the cage again this all weekend? Because a long week.
I can't be a lot with us.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
After Friday, we really I didn't really say much on
the drive home from from Bravery on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I said nothing.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I had Well, if you were.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There by yourself, so you have I mean Lis, I
my wife so she could fill the conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Space and I had a solid two hour drive home
of silence.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So that was lovely. It was such a beautiful drive.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It always is a thank you to everyone who came
out and for Bravery Brewing, for hosting us yet again,
always a great time. I mean, it's just gorgeous. It's
the perfect kick off to summer because it feels like summer.
That weather up there was, Yeah, it was pretty great.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Are you ready to feel old?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Bring it before we talk about domestic violence on the
world stage?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Can I get a little bit of America music?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
All right? Do you remember as a youth? You were
an older youth than I.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Was, but I remembered a great time in American history
when we were the top of the top. And as
a woman, it meant a little bit more to a
young me seeing Mary.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Lou rettin Ah, seeing.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That balance beam routine, seeing that awful haircut that we
all had, and knowing that America was number one.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And this little girl who was not a little girl
to me at the.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Time but was an idol, was leading that charge. And
she was strong and she was brave, and she was
mighty though little.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
And it was Mary lou.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Retton, and she was on the cover of our cereal boxes,
and she had those gold medals.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And Bella Coroli. Before we knew that he was a monster.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
He was so proud.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
He was such a proud second father.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't know if she had a first father, but
there he was in his tracksuit and we were all
rejoicing as Americans.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And now now we're so old that.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Mary lou Retton can't talk her ass out of a DUI.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, you pull over Mary lourett You don't let her go.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Chances are or whoever pulled her over didn't know who she.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Was exactly my points.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
She's like, I'm Mary Louretton, and the cop who's like
twenty seven is like, I don't marry lou what?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And I'm Officer Bergstrom? What's your point?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Lady?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
In Marion County, West Virginia, May seventeenth, Dy, my god,
where have we.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Gone as a country? Didn't she was close to she
had some health problems.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
You had pneumonia?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think she had some Do you think she had
a GoFundMe? Page? Things have not been great. Remember her
family had said that she was near the end, and.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
They started a whole GoFundMe or mills and stuff that
was very strange.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That was story. I never found out what was wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yeah she recovered, that's good.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well did she well, I mean from the sickness, right, yeah,
I was, but then got right back into the bottle.
America fifty seven. Mary Leuretten is fifty seven years old.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
This video that has.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Made its way around the world over the last twenty
four hours is I fully believe it is one of
the funniest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
And I believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And it's because I don't want to say they're just
like us, because I've never struck my husband in the
face purposefully. I may have done it when I'm sleeping.
I know I've done it when I've slept, but a
couple of times he's like, you really hit the hell
out of me. But not everybody has any sort of
domestic violence, even playfully, if that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Not everybody has that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But it's nice to see a real moment, albeit violent,
from a world leader and his wife, and just the
whole backstory of them, of her being his teacher and
having like twenty something years on him, twenty four years,
twenty four years on him, and just like slapping him
like a little boy. Like, I loved all of it.
The fact that she is so thin. That must be cigarettes, right,
(04:44):
what is Yeah, that's legs are literal little match sticks.
But anyway, just the whole pageantry of the French Force
one or whatever it is they travel on, and the
red jacket in the you know, striking him in the
face and him looking like the little schoolboy that he was, like.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The whole thing to me, I just want to eat
it all up.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So French President of Manuel Macrone and his wife had
just touched down in the northern Vietnamese city of Hanoi
for an official visit. This was late Sunday night, the
local time, and you see the door open. I don't
know if it's a seven forty seven, but it's a
big airplane. So the big door opens and you see
(05:27):
the French president there kind of getting ready to walk
out of the airplane. What you then see is a
person who's kind of blocked by a doorway or whatever,
dressed in red with red sleeves, and then whacking the
French president in the face. Now did she push him,
(05:48):
did she smack him? Did she hit him? It does it,
but he's kind of taken aback by it. As you
would be, and then realizes the door's open, and all
of the TV cameras.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Saw all of it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Right now, Hey, he told reporters, we are bickering and
joking with my wife and a video becomes a sort
of geoplanetary catastrophe. In the world we live in, we
don't have a lot of time to lose on discussing
such topics.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
She kind of takes both hands, fingers out stretched, and
she's a tiny little woman, and she kind of just
shoves him in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
To the point where he goes back a little bit.
You know, everything's different in France.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
They smoke cigarettes, they do everything with more passion. They
have the affairs, they it's a very French different world
over there.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Maybe you can smack your husband in the face like that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And it's no big thing, But you can also cheat
on your wife. So why wouldn't that Why wouldn't there
be a little bit of payback? Yeah, I don't know
if he did.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I don't think he's cheating on her. I think we
all know that now that that would not go well.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That was a fun, big deal. There is more serious
stuff that's going on. President Trump says that he is
not happy with Vladimir pup?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
What did he think was going to happen?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That he and Putin would be friends and then they
would just be in line with all their thinking. Putin
is a grown man, and just as Trump is a
grown man. You are set in your ways. When you
become a certain age, especially even more so for a
man who is aging, you become more set in your.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Ways more so.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And the idea that Vladimir Putin would capitulate to anything
Trump would say or want is absurd. And Trump should
know that first and foremost, because he's exactly the same way.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
They're very similar people. Granted one of them is a
war criminal and the other is not. But I don't
understand the ego portion of what he's been doing with this.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, it's you, nail it. It's all ego.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's thinking that somebody was your friend and is going
to do what you want, and that's not dropping.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That as like I thought we were friends and thinking
that that's going to make an impact.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This goes back to girls in high school.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
All right, more on this Ukraine Russia stuff when we
come back.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Some stories that we are following today. National Public Radio
sued President Trump today over the executive order that would
have ceased all federal funding for NPR. The May first Order,
they say, violates the First Amendments protections of speech and
the Press, and steps on the authority of Congress. There
was a car that ran through a crowd of Liverpool
(08:49):
soccer fans, left nearly fifty people injured. They said that
that may have gotten onto the Liverpool street by tailgating
an ambulance. People was the last latest number, including four kids, injured,
after the car appeared to speed through the crowd of
hundreds of people on Water Street as they were celebrating Liverpool.
(09:10):
And then Lelo and Stitch and Mission Impossible Final reckoning
record setting for a Memorial Day weekend. Lelo and Stitch,
they said, brought in one hundred and eighty three million
dollars in its opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We've got a new testimony in the Diddy trial that
provides more dirty details of this entire realm of crazy
that existed with Diddy and the circle that in the
concentric circles that surrounded him, his relationships, how he treated
(09:44):
a people that he was with that he employed all
of the things. More dirty details come up. We will
get into it coming up. After the news at the
bottom of the.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Hour, Ukraine's western allies, including the UK and the US,
have agreed to lift all remaining range restrictions on the
use of their weapons. President Trump issued his strongest criticism
of Vladimir Putin yet. The move was announced after President
Trump posted on truth social that Putin has gone crazy
(10:14):
and that he is still needlessly killing a lot of people.
He was asked about this jumping off of Air Force one.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a
lot of people, and I don't know what the hell
happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always
gotten along with him. But he's sending rockets into cities
and killing people, and I don't like him at all. Okay,
we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets
and to Kiev and other cities.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't like it at all, not even a little bit,
he said.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But Putin's gonna say whatever he wants to say to
get what he wants.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's he is a manipulator, is what I don't get about.
Trump In this situation is he knows how to play
that game. Trump knows how to play the game of
say whatever you have to say to get whatever you
need to exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And why he wouldn't see that in Putin is insane
to me. If somebody's supposed to know Putin's game or
should know Putin's game, it's Donald Trump. He plays the
same one. So this is now this, this is not good.
If these two and and and now Trump's taking this personally,
and uh, if these two are starting to take things personally,
(11:25):
that's World War three stuff, right, That's that's things getting
ugly real quick it. And and imagine this, Zolenski gets
axed because Putin's gun in vers Lensky.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Zelenski gets axed.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Literally, Yeah, he assassinated, Yeah, as opposed to just cut
out of the negotiator, right.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
And then that holds Trump's feet to the fire.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, Trump's no fan of Zelenski, but it's a
showing of power from Putin to wipe out the head
of the country he wants to reduce to rubble and
then rule over it.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
General Keith Kellogg.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Stop and then you ventially go to somewhere where you
get all through major leaders of all the parties.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You get the president.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
President putin presidents.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Let's get together and hammer this thing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Out and come to sometimes of signed document that ends
this war. At General Keith Kellogg, there is a special
envoy for Ukraine. It really doesn't divulge a lot of
secrets there in terms of what is coming up next.
The Kremlin, in response to Trump's truth social posts, said
that these were just emotional reactions and that this is
(12:28):
a very critical moment which is fraught with emotional stress
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Ooh, I think we all know when someone's upset in
a relationship not to call that person emotional. We've all
learned that lesson, have we not. It never goes anywhere,
It only goes to bad land.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's one of those It's one of those lessons we
may have to relearn over and over again. I again
this to me. To me, this sounds weak stream on
Trump's part to say that you don't like it, or
I thought we were friends or all of that. That
sounds very weak stream to me. And it reminded me
(13:07):
of that and this whole Yeah, but don't do anything.
What's the alternative? The alternative is immediately telling Vladimir Putin,
get him on the horn.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
You can do that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You immediately tell him whatever you thought sanctions were doing
to your economy now ten times worse, one hundred times worse.
Everybody in Europe wants to do the same thing, and
they're waiting for our leadership on this. And instead of
just saying I thought we were friends, or I don't
know what's going to happen, or he's I don't like
(13:38):
it at all, that is all weak and I'm surprised
that that's the reaction that Trump has given. I'm surprised
he hasn't come back and said very forcefully.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
There's a lot of money to be made there and
Trump's not going to be in the White House forever.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You mean as Russia as a market for Trump post presidency.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
There's a lot of money to be made with an
intact relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I just feel, well, I don't know if that's I
don't know if that's enough for me.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's not enough for you. It shouldn't be enough for you,
But it's the way things.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Are, so we don't know if there are any talks.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
There was a report actually out of out of the
Kremlin this morning that suggested that there had been some
communication because the United States and Russia had allegedly agreed
to another prisoner swap. There were a few hundred prisoners
that were swapped last week, and everybody kind of took
that as a baby step towards some sort of a
(14:45):
ceasefire and potential peace agreement. But not clear if that's
an actual if that's truth coming out of the Kremlin.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
All right, Coming up next, we'll get into the latest details.
Somebody by the name of Capricorn Clark is on the
stand at the Diddy trial. This is a female former
Diddy employee who is talking about details about when did
he discovered that Cassie the girlfriend who is the star
(15:13):
witness who has laid out all of the freak offs
and the beatings and the druggings and all of it.
Turns out she was in a relationship with kid Coody
Cutty Cutty, old old Old. I Love I love the music,
don't know the name.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I started watching this show.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's a I want to say it's a dateline documentary
type show. Just one episode in I believe it's a series,
not sure how many parts there are, but it's about
romance scams online and it just rips your heart out.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know, these are older people.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Some of them are married, but I mean not older
older people, people in their sixties and seventies, and they're
lonely for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And the.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Scammers are so good in that it's not just those
emails you would get I'm a prince in Nairobi and
I need money for gems to give you, like it's
a legit relationship via text and email and ims and
all that. And it's it's heartbreaking to see people who
(16:32):
are coming alive at this point in their life because
of this interaction.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Is there how much creativity does it require on the
scammers part.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Come up with all those all compliments The majority is
just bathing them and compliments and attent, just sheer attention.
You don't have to be creative. I mean, these are
people that haven't had attention.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's like one of the women that's featured, you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Know, she raised kids, she's married, she raised kids, kids
are out of the home. She loved having the home
be the centerpiece where all the kids would come, and
the kids' friends would come, and they have the house
everyone would come to.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And then now it's just like she's still with her husband.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They're fine, but you know, they eat dinner in front
of the television. Then he goes and he watches a
game or whatever, and she's bored, and all of a sudden,
you've got you know, she's playing words with friends. I mean,
they're very creative the way they get into it. She
wasn't looking for anything. She's playing words with friends on Facebook,
just like she does for years, and all of a sudden,
(17:36):
it's a new friend that pops up, and then it's
just normal communication that you would have with anybody else.
And it's awful to see these people realize that it
was all just to get money. But these are smart
women that are featured in this show. They are smart,
accomplished women. And it just it talks. It just it
(17:58):
highlights like loneliness and whatever and there it's not it's
not a rare thing. It's happening a lot everywhere. And
so we had a story that we found in the
cut about a woman who says, it was only after
my father died that I got access to the conversations
with the creatures who fleeced him. He kept like cataloged
(18:20):
all the communic hat and loved it, which brings up
the question if it makes him happy, is it that bad?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Well, if he's losing money at it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But it's his money, I don't know. Anyway, we'll talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So. Capricorn Clark is a former employee of Sean Ditty Comb's.
Capricorn Clark has been on the stand today. They're actually
in a short recess in the Manhattan Federal Courthouse where
this is taking place. She Capricorn Clark, said that Diddy
(18:56):
was armed with a gun and said he wanted to
kill rapper Kid Cutting after did he discovered the Cuddy
was in a relationship with Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Let me get this straight, Seawn Combs, Sean Ditty Combs
would hire male prostitutes to come in and have sex
with his girlfriend for ten hours a piece at a
time frequently, while he would drug her and all of
the things. But he really took issue when she had
a real relationship with somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Right who was also a successful hip hop.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Artist, Broken person. Capricorn Clark said that Combs actually threatened
her with the gun as well. She said, get dress,
We're going to kill that guy. Clark said she tried
to protest, but Diddy said, I don't give a f
(19:51):
what you want to do that he was livid at
her for not telling Ditty the relationship between Cutty and Ventura.
She said again that he had threatened her multiple times before,
but this was the first time that he appeared at
her house with a weapon. She also testified multiple times
that she saw Combs kicking Cassie Ventura. In fact, the
(20:16):
way that she described it, she broke down in tears
as she said, did he kicked Cassie Ventura repeatedly down
a driveway, kicking the s out of her with one
hundred percent full force, and then ordered Capricorn Clark to
get out or she would be beaten as well.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I often think about how it should be a requirement,
or you should just know better to require this of yourself.
You become larger than life in life, you become a
Sean did he Combs?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You're titan of your industry.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You're successful, you have money, you have everything you've ever wanted, jets, cars, women, jewelry.
What it is it should be required that you have
a no person right next to you, someone to say
this s has gotten out of control. You're getting out
of control because you can't always rely on the person
(21:13):
to look and word and be like what the hell
am I doing? You know, because they get they get
to be so big, and they're filled with so many
yes people around them that just enable them to become
freaking monsters.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You know, it's weird that you say that, because one
of the things that she testified to today that Capricorn
Clark testified to was when the defense starts questioning her,
the attorney who did it said we've met before, haven't we.
And I guess there was an interview that was done
last year and what she said to that attorney at
the time was he wouldn't be in this ditty, would
(21:46):
not be in this mess if he had kept me around,
because I was the no person. I was the person
who told, hey, this is a bad idea. You're getting
yourself into trouble. You're going to cause more problems, which
I think is a kind of a funny way for
her to look at it herself, because she talked about
being completely in fear of this guy, but that she
at the time at least believed that she might have
(22:06):
been able to control some of his behavior.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, but yeah, how do you pick?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
How do you because if you don't have a no
person all the life you've worked for, you're just going
to ruin it.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
And he clearly didn't have.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I mean, even she says, I mean in that episode
of watching him kick cass Eventura down the driveway, said
she tried to get two of the bodyguards to help out.
They're not going to do anything. They're paid to just
sit there and do nothing because they are there are
no no people around him.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Apparently he gave lie detector tests to his employees as well.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
We should start doing that around here, even if it's
not real. Yeah, just for fuck a nine volt battery
and if you lie. Oh my goodness. I got out
of yoga yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I went to Patriotic Yoga.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They had like sounds of firecrackers and lights and a
lot of good messages of being thankful for people who
have given it all for this country and for us
to be able to do yoga in the middle of
a day on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And I get back in the car and I'm feeling.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
All relaxed and all patriotic and feeling great energized. And
I have the radio on low and I'm like looking
up something on my phone directions to get somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I'm like, what the hell is this? Good Lord, I
turn it up and it's me. I didn't know what.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
We were running like a best of yesterday, but it
was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm like seeing the car of trying to find something.
I'm like, what the hell is it?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
What is shit walking? Chicken?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah? And I was like, oh man, what a real moment.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I didn't do yoga, but I met one hundred
and two year old World War two vet yesterday.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Wow. He and his buddy.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Who's one hundred both of them World War two vets
that were at the memorial?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Who's the no guy in that relationship?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Probably one hundred years?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
One hundred year old? Guys?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I got you gotta just the freak offs on Tuesday,
all right, you guys, like, listen, I made it to
one hundred and two.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
What do you know?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
All right?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
More on that scam of finding out that the eighty
two year old dad had a lot of girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But no love, but it made him happy.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
We have to spend a little bit more time. Maybe
in True Crime Tuesday, we can touch back on this
as well, because I think it affects a lot of people.
Let us know if you or you know somebody who
has been affected by these romance scams, because I think
this is much more prevalent than anyone thinks. It's talking
about this Dateline documentary, I believe it's called something to
(25:02):
the effect of hey, beautiful, something like that, Like that
was his opening line that he would use all the time.
But I think it's more prevalent than we think. And
in that documentary, it's not just one woman that's scammed.
It's a bevy of women, and it's a bevy of people.
Men or others. Women do this as well, pretend to
(25:23):
be men who use pictures of real people for their scams.
Those people are victims as well. I mean, imagine your
picture you would be perfect for this being taken, you know,
online somewhere and somebody pretending to be your picture, trustworthy face,
(25:43):
you know, acceptible, acceptable. I was gonna give you a
compliment right there, and then I pulled back because you
you ruined it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You ruin the moment.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But but you know there's there's men out there where
they have faces where you'd be like, oh, okay, I
can trust this person, and those pictures are being used
to commit these awful crimes. But in the cut there
was an anecdote that was written about and it was
(26:12):
from a writer who says, it was only after my
father died that I got access to his conversations with
I love the way way he writes this, the creatures
who fleeced him. He was so enamored by the members
of what he jokingly called his harem that he printed
the transcripts of their dialogues and filed them in metal
cabinets in his office.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I liked it. Dad was a little inter retentive man.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, he was a transportation engineer or an urban planner.
This is what Dad did. This is how he made
sense of things. This is how he kept his belongings chronicled.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, this, like you said, is more common. I'd love
to know. Send us a talkback if this has happened
to you, or if that maybe this happened to mom
and Dad and you didn't know until later.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Gary and Shannon I'm in my eighties and I have
had several men trying to contact me through Facebook, and
one was like twenty nine years old. And I kind
of played the game with that one and said, you know,
I'm a little too old for you.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, oh I like older women. He said, what a joke.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They are such scammers. They are.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It is important because I mean, I was captivated by
this show and not be not for a purient interest,
for a I want to be on guard. I want
other people to be on guard of this going on,
because it is so human to want a connection with somebody.
That's why Facebook is so popular. It's nice to connect
(27:47):
with people well.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
And it's also we've talked about this many times in
the terms of the wellness aspect of loneliness, that it
has a ridiculously detrimental effect to your physical health if
you find yourself lonely.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Because and that's why we're programmed to seek connection, because
if we don't, we.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Die, right, that's dark, it's true. But let us know.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Hit us up on that talkback feature using the iHeartRadio app.
We'll get into it coming up in the twelve o'clock hour,
and we get into true crime Tuesday more about this
man's life, how he had such a healthy bench, a
harem he called it, of women, and kind of the
question of if this is how people choose to spend
(28:34):
their later years is there.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, that's an interesting aspect that I hadn't thought of maybe, right.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I mean, if he's not losing all of his money.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Like in this show, you're getting interviews from the younger
relatives and the grandkids, and like they took all of
grandma's money or whatever.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Grandma was pretty happy talking this twenty grandma's money. It
ain't your money.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Exactly, you know. So that's it opens up another conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You can always
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