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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. I grew up in a place
where there were nothing but Giants fans, and I didn't
realize how insufferable they were until I got out of
the I got out of it go on Case in
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Point Friday Night. So yes, it's exciting that the Dodgers
and Giants are this close in the NL West at
this time of the year. The Giants have already fizzled
out by this time of year, but they are right
in the thick of it, and good for them, and
that's awesome. I love I love it when it's a
tight race, right, it's fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's fun for all fans.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But as soon as the Giants take one game and
they are tied for first with the Dodgers, the family
group text lights up. Anyone happened to catch the Dodgers game.
It's a good one, Like that's from my brother, who
I love dearly. But I mean, come on, it's like
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a politician, never waste a good crisis. My family, it's
never waste a good sports moment for Bay Area sports
we have to hit people over the head with it.
I realize I'm insufferable as a forty nine Ers fan,
and all of these people are too.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
But in baseball season is just more jarring.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because I'm not paying attention, and it goes on for
texts after texts after text and blah blah blah, and
then it's like, you know, a day past, and that's
one day. One day, the Giants even it up with
the Dodgers, and then the Dodgers go and take two
of the three, and they're two games up, and we
got show hey back he's pitching today. Very exciting, but
you just had to gloat for that one moment in
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time Giants fancy.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, absolutely, I didn't send you a text, so I
feel like I still have some AMMO left that I.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Could shoot you some text between now and the end.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Now you can't because you're back to games.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You had that one moment.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Friday night was the moment, but there was zero expectation
that they would be sniffing even the Colorado Rockies at
this point, and the fact that they were tied for
first place with arguably one of the most dynastic baseball
teams ever.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I love that, and I love that for you, and
I love that for all Giants fans. But it doesn't
give you s talking ability for one evening.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You don't get to start talking. Yeah, I mean, come
on for one night. But it's like they they just
have to seize on it. And I get it. I'm
one of these people. I do this too.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But when I'm on the outside during baseball season looking in,
it does appear to be insane.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But how exciting that show Hey is going to pitch?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
But now you get it? Yeah, that is huge.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
There were some rumblings late Saturday and early Sunday that
there was one article I actually read that said, hey,
show Hey may come back sooner than you think, you know,
because they were saying maybe by the All Star break.
Definitely you know, after it, but maybe before the All
Star break. And now three weeks before.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I was shocked to get that alert on the phone.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, they must have full confidence in his repaired, surgically
repaired arm.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And well, they were.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Down in San Diego and I was listening to Vassa
on a five seventy LA Sports and we are LA
get in the game. I don't know, do that any
be a while? Yeah, more stimulating talk.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But he said that they basically had one.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Of those per ten games with Showhy before their game
that night.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, he's done, and that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Was like last week.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think he's done three of those pre simulated games
in the in the last when he threw forty five
or fifty pitches or something like that, which is good.
It's a good indication. And afterwards, if you feel good,
then get on it. I mean, they have nothing. They've
had ridiculously bad luck with injuris to their injuries, to
their pitchers, so this would be massive. But then you,
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I mean you, I as a Giants fan, shudder to
think what if all those guys actually come back and
get healthy. That's a rotation that's unbeatable. When you get
into later July, August, September, and then obviously for the playoffs,
it would just be it would be wasted anybody else's
time to play.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I just remembered one memory of why my family is
further insufferable. Okay, at my wedding, On the top of
my wedding cake, I had a miniature forty nine ers
helmet on my wedding cake. Now, that was my decision,
and that's ridiculous, and I understand that it's asinine.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I love to see this growth in you.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It is crazy looking back, what like you got married
in all it's preseason. First of all, it's not like
they're in a super Bowl run, which would also be ridiculous.
I understand that. But I had a football helmet on
my wedding cake. Like that's insane, that's crazy, Like that's
lock you up, put you away for at least seventy
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two hours. But that set this is what this is
where I come from. You know, before they introduce the
husband and wife and they bring them in, my whole
family had orchestrated to put all of them in San
Francisco Giants hats, so that one my husband walked in
the room, all he would see was a sea of
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people in San Francisco Giants hats. He's a Dodger fan.
That's also freaking insane.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
But it adds spice. No, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Would say, that's very sweet of you. That's very kind.
Speaking of spice, we have a lot to get you today.
It's a busy Monday. Usually Mondays are a little.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, this one has got plenty of stuff for us
to talk about right now. The FBI is giving an
update on the shooting suspect of those two politicians and
their spouses. They're in Minnesota. A state representative and her
husband were killed, and then a state set and his
wife were severely injured. The state senator was shot nine
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times and his wife was shot eight times, and they
have survived to this point. They're both in stable condition
after surgery. But the more we learn about this guy
is it makes it even worse because it appears that
it was politically motivated.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
And that's what we're doing these days apparently.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And we've got kids calling nine to one one because
their parents are shot.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
We'll dig into all we know about this guy when
we come back.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What do you think about this trade, this Red Sox trade,
this problem child.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To the Giants?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Raphael Devers's he's shown himself to be a whiny baby pants.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yes, but he can hit, desperately need hitting.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
He doesn't run out ground balls. Sounds like he needs uh.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Maybe he just needs a change of scenery.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
What was that catcher's name in Major League Crash?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No different movie, that's bull Durham.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
In Major League.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
The catcher, Yeah, the catcher, the guy the glue.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Who told Tom Roger Dorn you know you pull that
Olay s with me ter name.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I can't either. That is funny.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
But he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It'll be interesting to see when the Red Sox actually
play the Giants.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I think next weekend because they just switched.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Giants don't have a game today, they don't play until tomorrow,
so but we'll see head case.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
We know that whiny baby pants baby Jay Taylor, Jake Taylor, Okay, yes,
character name.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
The FBI and the US Attorney in Minnesota are holding
a news conference right now announcing the federal charges against
the shooting suspect of those two Minnesota state lawmakers and
their spouses. He was finally picked up last night. He
was picked up in an area near his own home.
Fifty seven year old Vance Luther Bolter, a resident of
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green Isle, Minnesota, which is in Sibley County, about forty
five miles southwest of the Twin Cities.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
They talked about it earlier. Today.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
We had extremely large law enforcement presence with dozens of
investigative agencies and law enforcement and swat teams in the
area because we believed he was in that area. We
received information to begin with a vehicle that was recovered
that first led us to the Sibley County area, and
that's what's concentrated our search in that area. We then
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received additional information that provided confirmation closer to the time
of the actual arrest that he was in fact in
that area, which is which time the command post started
moving all of the law enforcement assets into that area
and they were able to close in when we stay
he was crawling towards us. These were in response to
the commands by the SWAT teams that were on seen
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as they were working in coordination with each other, along
with our state patrol air assets, as they looked, were
able to get over him and then came into custody.
He was cooperative and cooperated with law enforcement and gave
up peacefully at that time.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So what do we know about this guy?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
They found in his cars a roster of dozens of names,
Democratic lawmakers, people supportive of abortion rights, other liberal causes.
They found no kings flyers, of course, about the protests
of Trump and the administration. Law enforcement worried that he
may have wanted to attack one of those gatherings. The
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list that was found included Senator Tina Smith, prominent abortion
rights advocates, at least eleven Democratic legislators from the states,
some from others Michigan, Illinois, Iowa. The guy's a wife,
and the wife was found with with other family members
driving through a county.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Was stopped on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
With a gun, with money, with passports, things like that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
They hadn't said.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I was trying to find out information about that yesterday
and they hadn't said were they tracking her? Were they
were they tracking the vehicle that she was at. I mean,
why would they have just stopped her at a gas station?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
They had heard according to the sheriff of the county,
which I read this morning, they had heard that she
was moving through his county, so they had kind of
a bulletin out to look for her and the vehicle. Now,
this guy said to be evangelical or in other spaces
you hear that he's a born again Christian. Neither here
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nor there maybe, but they say he split his time
between his rural home and a place in Minneapolis. Seems
to have had some financial troubles of late. Seems to
be in debt, seems to try to get a company
off the ground and was not able to do so.
Only financial hardship makes people angry sometimes.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, he talked about plans he wanted to start a
security firm, and one of the places that apparently he
did get some at least part time work, was a
place that would provide security style vehicles, which explains how
he had access to what appeared to be a police suv.
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Remember it pulled into the driveways of both of these homes.
It had a light bar across the top of it.
In fact, when the officers responded to Senator Hoffman's shooting
to his home, they were aware enough that this representative
Hortman lived just a mile or two away and immediately
sent officers to that house, thinking that this may be connected,
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and that's when they ran into the suspect coming out
of her house.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You can get the vehicles, you can get lights and sirens,
you can get the tactical gear. Look no further than
the protests and reporters. One of his friends says, that
was just vance he would try to get things started.
I bought two cars for security. But he had no clients,
he had no business, he had no employees. He was
just doing security for anybody. He was kind of one
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of those ideas guys. It sounds like, oh, I'm going
to do the security firm buys the vehicles, but doesn't
really have the plan of how to get it off
the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
He had quit a couple of months ago from some
funeral home on call shift work that he was doing.
He wanted to take a two week trip to Africa,
where he was hoping to set up another branch or
another version of the security business. When he returned, he
took a job extracting eyeballs from dead bodies for organ donation.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He supported Trump. He would listen to Alex Jones. He
would be offended if anyone called him a Democrat. He
preached in the park, lived in a park.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
In the tent.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
At one point, it seems like this is some mental
illness which was flamed by bad political rhetoric, flamed by
it there in fan flames.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You mentioned this former roommate that he may have lived with.
He was interviewed all over the place. When we come back,
I'll play for you his description.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Of Vans guy apparently met Jesus too, so he's got
that going for him, like face to face or in
the proverbial in my heart sense, we'll find out.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (13:33):
We're following President Trump meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Mark
Carney as the G seven so it gets under way
and Alberta. Two nations obviously been working on hammering out
some sort of trade agreement. Trump's first visit to Canada
since twenty eighteen, so there's a few backdrops the tariff issue.
The Canadian should be our fifty first state issue.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
All of that, Iran has fired a new wave of
missile attacks at Israel.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
At least eight people were killed.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Israel meanwhile, has been warning hundreds of thousands of people
in the middle of Tehran to evacuate ahead of new
strikes that they say are planned. The military has issued
similar evacuation warnings for civilians and parts of Gaza and
Lebanon ahead of strikes America wise, the USS Nimitz aircraft
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carrier group is said to be moving towards that area
in the event that it's ever needed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Just a side note for when the.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Trump truists, I will call y'all which you live your life,
but to pretend that this man is all about country
and nothing else is silly.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's about money. It's about money to be made.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Or was this his mobile plan?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's his mobile plan.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The Trump Organization announcing a new wireless phone service called
Trump Mobile, and good on them. Hey, if there's money
to be made, why not make it. That's America. But
let's not pretend this isn't about money. Organization says it
hopes the new service will write T mobile Verizon in
AT and T. It's going to be forty seven dollars
and forty five cents per month. Get it, forty seven,
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forty five. A smartphone called the T One will cost
five hundred dollars, will launch in September. The phone will
include a gold colored metal case with an American flag
on it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's an awful looking phone if you've seen this.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh, it's benefiting off the office of the president. It's
financial benefit off the office of the president. But that's
you know, follow the money, like I always say.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota last night decried the violence,
the apparently political violence of this guy showing up at
the homes of a couple of Minnesota state lawmakers and
shooting them killing a state representative in her husband and
then severely wounding a state senator and his wife.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
A moment in this country where we watch violence erupt.
This cannot be the norm. It cannot be the way
that we deal with our political differences. Now's the time
for us to recommit to the core values of this country,
and each and every one of us can do it.
Talk to a neighbor rather than arguing, debate an issue,
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shake hands, fine common ground.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
We mentioned that this roommate had been interviewed a couple
of different places. A roommate for fifty seven year old
Vance Bolter, and he's an odd looking fella, is the roommate,
but had some comments about who Vance is.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Is a Trump supporter, voter for Trump? You like Trump,
I like Trump. Nobody's happy with the government. Everybody everybody
is happy. This not happy what this politician does or
that politician does. But you don't go on a shooting sperien.
It's that's why I hate it talking about it because
it's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The first comments that came out, trying to ascribe some
political ideology to this, suggest tested that the two Democratic
state lawmakers voted against providing medical services to illegal aliens
in the state of Minnesota, and the suggestion therefore was
that this was a far left leaning somebody with a
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far left leaning political ideology who was upset at the
Democrats for breaking with their party. Then it turns out
that this guy is completely not so right, that he
is a Trump supporter, allegedly that he did vote for Trump.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Supposedly, this.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Immediate knee jerk reaction of assigning a political party to
this is not helpful.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I was just gonna ask that if we go back it,
just as you have the words were leaving your mouth.
I'm thinking, did we always do this when somebody shot
and killed people? I guess we're doing this because the
people who he shot and killed our lawmaker. And so
the question goes along with it, is this politically motivated
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because they're lawmakers? Because you don't have somebody shoot and
kill a couple people in their homes in the middle
of the night and go, well, they were they a
Democrat or Republican because it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant in
this case. I guess it does matter because they're lawmakers.
You have to ask, well, you go all the way back.
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I mean, it's not even it's not in our history.
We weren't alive when it happened.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
But if you think of the Kennedy assassination and political
motives that would have been ascribed to the shooters or
also Lee Harvey Oswald, like, did we spend a lot
of time talking about No, because it was obvious one
side versus the other.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, because it was obvious that the mafia killed JFK.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think we can all agree on that.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But then we had then you had the assassination of
Harvey Milk in San Francisco. I only use that because
that's I mean, that was kind of where we were.
I don't know, it's just that knee jerk reaction of
somehow going on to social media and then declaring, well,
it's clearly part he's clearly on your team. It's your
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team that did this. You guys are the ones that
did this. And it goes far beyond that one thing.
It's one thing to have a political animus towards a
specific party or a candidate or a politician, or a
theory or a philosophy or whatever. That's one thing. Even
being adamantly opposed to I mean, we're seeing tens of
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thousands of people protesting political policies throughout the cities, you know,
obviously in LA for the last week. But to go
from that to a premeditated, planned out ambush style attack
on politicians like this is a completely different stretch.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, I was not shocked, but I was pleasantly surprised
that the protests and the parade went off as well
as everything did, And I was impressed, and I'm shamed
to say that I was mildly surprised that the army
took control of that parade and did it the way
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the army would do that parade. That it was not
a Trump birthday. Military is strong. We live in this
like militant state type parade that you see in other countries,
which is what the fear was.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
These were armed. These were soldiers.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Smiling and waving and hanging out with kids, and a
very cool showing of the history of the army. It
was a really well done thing. It wasn't the be
afraid of US world. We're the United States of American
and we could wipe you out with this tank.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It was a very proud, wonderful family event showing of
the army.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And what it means.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
To this country, and of course it was, you know,
of course it was because they were in charge of it,
and they were going to do what they have done,
and it's to have class in character and respect of
their organization and of the country.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I would also like to say I was pleased with
what I saw with the No Kings protests, just with
my own eyes. I was down in Huntington Beach and
at Warner and pch there was a huge protest six
seven eight deep of people holding up their signs saying
things like Alexa, we need a new president or something,
you know, like it was all very peaceful and again
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family oriented, and everyone just honking their horns and dressed
in red, white and blue and no issues. And then
a couple streets down at the pier there were the
Trump supporters, no issues.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You know, it was just like this is this is
where the protests should be.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We are telling you and the public what we're into
and what we're not into. But we're doing it in
a peaceful way. We're showing our strength and numbers in
a peaceful way. We're not looting, we're not killing each other.
This is just America.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And we disagree, but we'll do it respectfully.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And there were isolated incidents, but those were for the
number of people, for the numbers of people that were
out in these protests.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Right, I didn't get a call saying, you know, Orange
County or LA's on fire, come to the station.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Right I didn't either, not that I would get that call.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
But you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
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Speaker 3 (22:35):
We mentioned the President of Trump attending the opening day
of the G seven summit up in Canada.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He's also supposed to meet with the Mexican President as
well as Zelenski, I believe, aside from meeting with the
Canadian Prime minister. So it's a lot of tense meetings, huh.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Speaking of tension, the Israeli military has been warning people
in parts of the capital of Iran to evacuate ahead
of what they say will be Israeli strikes. Israel set
a planned to strike military sites in the city. The
Israeli military also issued evacuation warnings for civilians and parts
of Gaza and Lebanon ahead of some of those strikes.
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I mentioned the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier group moving towards
the Middle East. There were over two dozen US Air
Force tankers KC one thirty five's and KC forty six
is from around the United States that last night appeared
to be taking off from their bases and heading east
out over the Atlantic.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's not entirely.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Unusual, but the very large number of them, the near
simultaneous movement of them, is very peculiar, especially given what's
going on in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And you go back to October seventh and Israel being
attacked and what that unleashed in terms of what Israel
was able to do because of that is asked and continuing,
and I mean the ripples of October seventh continue.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This is just a massive miscalculation on Hamas. That's my question.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Did they not see that this would open the door
for Israel to wipe out Hamas and Hesbalah and then
just go into Iran because they're those strongholds do not remain.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Did nobody see this coming?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Sports Wise, the Angels got swept by the Orioles in Baltimore,
including yesterday's eleven to two lost Giants Sorry, Dodgers beat
the Giants five to four yesterday so the Dodgers actually
take on the Padres tonight. Sho hey, Otani back on
the mound. It is Blake Snell Bottlehead night. But first
pitch is gonna be seven o'clock. You can listen to
all the Dodgers games on A five seventy LA Sports
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the Dodgers games in HD on that iHeartRadio app. Use
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Speaker 1 (24:53):
First time Otani has pitched since he had that right
elbow surgery back in twenty twenty three. I saw The
Materialists last night. Oh really, My husband and I saw
it and it was It was a rom com, but
not a rom com at all. It was a rom
com with a real world lens covering it. It was
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not the Meg Ryan rom coms of our youth. It
was a realistic rom com. I guess you could say,
much more realistic than the ones that we remember.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Not so bubblegummy, not at all.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, but I will say this just because we don't
have time for anything else.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right here.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
There was an ad, you know how, there's a couple
ads before the previews start in the movie theaters. There
was an ad for Lexus and it was your car ad,
your typical car ad with guy maybe forty maybe forty five,
well groomed, successful. The voiceover is the same, something deep
male voice saying something to the effect of you've worked
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for it, you've worked hard, you're a man, blah blah blah,
the typical voiceover selling a car to a man ad,
especially high end sports car type guy. There's a guy
driving his new Lexus sports car around a weaving road
maybe Italy.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There, and there's.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Another guy, same kind of guy, in what appears to
be kind of like a land Rover slash jeep slash
LEXUSSUV and he's driving through like a forest area in
the top of a mountain, through mist and fog, and
it's all about the quest and what you're seeking. And
he gets out of his big car as a man,
and he finds the field butterflies, thousands of monarch butterflies,
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and there he is standing in the clearing, delighting and
all the butterflies. And that was the crescendo of the
male sports car commercial. And I thought, how indicative of
where we are is this ad?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Forty years ago he would have driven up to like
a hot springs with half naked or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
No, I mean forty years ago was you're a man
built ford, tough, mud, hot girls, horses, And now it's butterflies.
And I'm telling that to my husband and he goes, oh,
I like butterflies.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I was like, of course you like. But everyone likes.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Butterflies, but you didn't usually think of like a man's
car commercial ending in butterflies ending like that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
All right, we'll talk about the no Kings protests that
took place over the course of the weekend here in La.
A couple of things got out of hand, but the
vast majority of things were quiet. For them, I should say,
loud but non violent. How's that they were loud but
non violent. Michael Monks is going to join us in
just a couple of minutes right here on Gary and Shannon.
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