March 11, 2025 • 29 mins
Mistrial declared in case of O.C. judge who shot and killed his wife. Life after life Leasure home for retirees have a seance to contact the other side. American adults withdrawing from relationships.
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
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Listen?
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Now?
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Is it the move?
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I haven't heard this forever?
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Doesn't play in your head.
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It doesn't just play your head part. You always cut
it off right, my favorite part?
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Leave you one more?
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That's hurtful. The Dow is a mess.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's having another down day on Wall Street right now.
Dow down six seventy seven. Markets lost a combined four
trillion dollars in value yesterday.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Don't panic yet.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Investors remain concerned over the state of the economy as
this tariff war standoff, whatever it is, continues. Nasdaq S
and P five hundred lower as well as you can
imagine all that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Also playing in the background is this ongoing fight over
a potential government shutdown. The Republican led House is planning
a vote, I believe, at about one o'clock today our time,
on a stopgap measure to keep the federal government funded
beyond Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Politico has said that Vice President J. D.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Vance met with House Republicans today and said that Republicans
will be taking the blame for the government shutdown if
they don't pass this. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
said this is squarely at the feet of Democrats if
they don't pass something.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So some dispute there, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, we broke this to you as it was breaking yesterday.
We saw this coming. The murder trial of that Orange
County judge who pulled a gun from his ankle holster
and shot and killed his wife during an argument in
their home in Anaheim Hills has ended in a mistrial.
Jurors could not agree on a unanimous verdict, which means
that they could not agree, thank you, despite more hours
(02:01):
of deliberation than even evidence that they heard. This was
Superior Court Judge Jeffrey Ferguson, who, while sitting at the
police station said aloud to himself, I killed her. Ladies
and gentlemen of the jury, convict my ass I did
it well. The actual jury did not.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The jury for person was telling a judge yesterday. So
they were hung on a second degree murder charge eleven
to one guilty eleven to one guilty they had had
they unanimously agreed that he was not guilty of the
second degree murder, they could have considered either a lesser
involuntary manslaughter conviction, or even acquitted him of all the charges.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
He seemed to be holding back emotion during the week
long trial. He did not show any obvious reaction to
the announcement of the mistrial. Here's how it went down.
If you're just joining the story, This was a judge.
She liked his cocktails. He and his wife and one
of the sons, they go out to dinner there in
Orange County.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
They had a couple pops.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
After having a couple pops at home, they get into
an argument about spending money on a son that he
had had with another woman before these two were married.
And as fights over money, off and get it gets
contentious and he's at the dinner table when he uses
his fingers in his hand to form the form a gun.
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You know what I mean, make a gun with your
hand with your fingers, right, we know how to do that.
He does that to her at the table and she
says something effective, why don't you use a real gun.
They get home a couple more pops, they continue to
get into it. He claims that he was trying to
put the gun away and he took it out of
his holster, it went off, it fired, and it killed her.
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The prosecutors argued, no, he obviously took it out in
the heat of the moment, shot her and killed her.
The son, who was there in the home that went
to dinner and was in the home, subsequently said that
his mother's last words were, he shot me. He The
judge also, just moments after he shot and killed her,
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got on his phone and started texting his bailiff and
court reporter. Hey, I'm not going to be in tomorrow.
Sorry about that. I've shot and killed my wife. Yet,
this is a jury that could not decide based on
what I can only believe was a muddled explanation of
the law. My only explanation is that they did not
explain the law correctly to these us because the second
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degree murder charge is an implied malice murder. And here's
how it's been described to me. You have a loaded
gun and you fire it into a crowd of people.
Do you mean to shoot and kill any.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Of those people? No, you do not, But you know
that what.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You're doing is inherently dangerous. You know that you're operating
with a conscious disregard of human life. That there alone
is enough to get get you to a second degree murder.
And they could not find that in this case. They
must have believed the defense argument, or at least a
one person stuck in dug in and would not believe
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anything different than the defense explanation that this guy had
had a couple pops, he was trying to put the
gun away, he's got the arthritis in the shoulder, he
was sloppy, the gun went off and killed her.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, the prosecutors were basically saying it was a complete
BS story that he admitted over and over again to
shooting his wife. He said it outside the house, he
said it in the police station. The key, at least
to the defense was he never admitted to intentionally shooting
his wife. And the way the prosecutors argued that was
they said, well, this guy's clearly a judge. This guy
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knows the law, and he has the ability with that
knowledge of the law, he has the ability to answer
certain questions in certain ways to avoid culpability.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But he didn't need to intentionally shoot her. That's what
a second degree murder. Is is right? Yeah, and that's I
think your point is perfect. That what we understand as
the basic definition of second degree murder, this actually this
fits it, and he admits to it. Todd Spitzer, the
DA says that this is despite the hung jury, this
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and mistrial. This is a success for him because and
for the ocda's office, because they have an eleven to one.
They're pretty confident that they could do this again with
twelve more juriors and come up with a twelve nothing.
Tod Spitzer could take a dump in the morning and
call it a successful day.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, I think that's.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You think that many people would. Many people would. Yeah,
you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, I mean you made you made it here before
you had your experiment.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Before I peed the car. Yeah, I did make it.
Thank you for letting me take that victory letter. Well today,
all right? Coming up next. Did you ever know that
there was a Life After Death club.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
In Orange County?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well there is, and they dedicate themselves to learning about
people after they pass on. It's probably like a grief tool. Okay,
you got just open your mind. As we move into
the next segment, we shall.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
See you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Coming up next, a lot of American adults withdrawing from romance.
Have you noticed it's not just young people, but the
trend seems to be especially pronounced for people born between
nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve. They say that love
is media driven. Not completely wrong, we'll dive into it.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, there is a Life After Life Club and it's
where exactly where you would think you would find it,
exactly where you think you would find it, and that
is what I think of as a wonderful place to
spend my golden Year's leisure World.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
They're in Orange County.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
There's always a bathroom around the corner.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The majority of residents in their mid seventies at leisure
World and for almost twenty years, the Life After Life
Club has gathered to learn about the healing power of UFOs,
trance channeling the power of animal communication, near death experiences.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Their sessions are recorded.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Their YouTube channel has about thirty thousand subscribers more than
three point five million visitors, and recently they all got
together to hear what the dead have to say to
the living.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It's very beetlejuice, isn't it. I know, you don't believe
in any of it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You don't have to come down anywhere because this is
this could be something that evolves. I think a lot
of people are doubters of psychics and things like that,
and that's what they had. They had a psychic come in.
Jennifer Rose is her name, very New agey, and.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
She speaks.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
She says of spirit. She's speaking of the dead, but
she would never use that word. She says the dead
are lifeless and gone, but the spirit which she courts
is animated, full of love and loved. And they want
to talk to Jennifer Rose about not only what the
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dead have to say to the living, but also to communicate.
I mean, think about the demo here, leisure world. People
in their mid seventies. Everyone's kind of with their own mortality.
They probably have loss in their life, recent loss, a
lot of it, and they want to believe that there's
something beyond this world, or some of them want to
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believe that. So that's why they gather for this. She says,
what happens when we pass over? That's what she asks
the group. She says, as a medium, I bring a
lot of people together in reuniting, and I deliver a
lot of apologies too.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Isn't that fascinating?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
All the people that have rifts with others and somebody
passes on and that riff remains and it bothers them.
One woman who didn't want to give her name, confide
she liked to hear from her brother, who recently died.
She says they were close until this last year, she said,
when he lost his mind to cirrhosis and they fell apart,
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so she wanted to patch things up.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, that's where my.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The questions begin for me, which is oftentimes if you're
going to if you're gonna go see a medium or
a psychic or a spirit talk or whatever term, it's
because you feel like there's some unfinished business that you
want finished. I didn't get to answer the question, or
I didn't get to tell you that I loved you,
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or I didn't get to hear from you that you
were proud of me, whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And I think of.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
In my instance, for example, my parents died, but I'd
never felt like there was unsaid stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
We got it all out, we did everything we could.
We were there.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I was there when both of them pat like, that's
a complete picture for me if I were to go
see somebody like this. I don't have any open wounds
that need to be solved, solved, saved. I don't have
any wounds that need to be fixed. You know I don't.
I'm not emotionally broken by my parents and need them
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to apologize or need.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
To hear this something you want to tell them, like
if maybe if you know your daughter had a baby
or something.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I don't know. I have no idea what you would
want to You've.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Broken a lot of news about my family in the
last ten minutes, and I want to know if that's
true or not.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
My daughter is pregnant, she's not. Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No. The only news I broke is that it's her
like best friend's birthday. I sat on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
One woman at.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This leisure World gathering raised her hand with a story
and a question. Her husband, she said, passed away almost
five years ago, and the first year she felt him constantly.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I've heard this before, she says.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
The TV came on, the lights came on, we started talking,
the clock would go crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But then after a year and.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
A half, I woke up and I almost felt him
pull from me and he was gone. Do they move
on after so long? She said, that's a gift that
you got all that. She said, I love all that stuff,
the knox atteps, the banging on the walls, the change
in temperature, things like that. That what she experienced was pure, unconditional,
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extreme love. She attributes his sudden departure to the questioner's
healing and need for new experiences. But that doesn't mean
he can't return, she says, Now, I have heard that
the departed sometimes stick around for a while, whether it's
a day or three days or a week or what
have you, or maybe longer, but then they continue on
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their journey because they want to make sure you're okay,
or someone's okay, or the family's okay, the home's okay,
things like that. But I don't think it matters what
we think about. This is long. It's kind of like faith, right.
You look at people that attend church religiously, they seem
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to be a happy people. It doesn't matter that you
don't believe in it, or you don't think this is
true or how could that happen?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Or whatever?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Who cares it's not for you? Then it's for them.
Same thing with this kind of stuff. It doesn't matter
if you and I believe that the lights went off
in here because it was your parents saying, stop talking
about this, it's stupid. It just matters for the people
that it helps.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
If it helps you, like if you're a.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Totally listen and I mean, there's grief. How many times
as we said, there's no playbook for grief. We all
react differently. Some of us it hits immediately, some of
us it's a delayed reaction to grief, or it's a
continuous grief, or sometimes it's just in short spurts. It's
one of those things where if that's what you need
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to help, like I said, heal those wounds that you
think exists between you and your dearly departed.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Absolutely, And if.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I get hit by a bus or something on my
way home, I'm totally going to stick around and f
with you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Like I mean, I think that would be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You're going to you're going to die in a crash
while you're peeing into a bucket.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So maybe, but I'm going to stick around for probably
about a year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
All right, Gary, what happens if our teenagers never date romantically,
but they just they just don't do it, Like, why,
what's the what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
We're breaking our children.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's a trend.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Stories we're following for you today. We will soon learn
more information about that deadly mid air collision between the
American Airlines passenger jet and that Army helicopter. NTSB will
give an update today on the January twenty ninth collision.
This happened remember in DC than when the American Airlines
plane collided with the Army Blackhawk, killing sixty seven people.
(15:52):
That news conference is set to begin in less than
a half an hour on the East coast.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
President Trump is going to stick up for his buddy
Elon Muskin, said he is going to support Elon quote.
I'm going to buy a brand new Tesla tomorrow morning
as a show of confidence and support for Elon Musk,
a truly great American. Why should he be punished from
putting his tremendous skills to work in order in order
to help make America great again. Sean Hannity Fox News
(16:19):
also said that he's going to be buying a new Tesla.
The company's share price suffered its steepest decline in five
years yesterday, I mean all of Wall Street has been
taking it in the short yesterday and today the Dow
is down about seven hundred points as of right now.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
A lot of American adults with drawing from romance. In
a twenty twenty three poll from the survey On Survey
Center on American Life, looks like young people is the
group that is.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Pulling away the most.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The number of teens experiencing romantic relationships has dropped quite
a bit. According to this Survey Center, or fifty six
percent of Gen Z adults say they'd been in a
romantic relationship at any point in their teen years, compared
with seventy six percent the generation before and seventy eight
percent the generation before that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I wonder if, just right off the bat, if part
of that is just a definition of what is a
romantic relationship.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I agree with you completely, because it's evolved, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I think so because in the old days, in the
old days, say forties fifty sixties, if there was a
teenage girl and a teenage boy and they were in
a relationship, together. It went through a process, and there
was a lot of formality to that courtship many times,
not that I was alive then, but i've you know,
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you've seen the movies. That's just kind of the way
the teenage boy would would have to go and carefully
dress up and go to the girl's house and meet
the parents, and then they would be in kind of
a relationship and maybe they were going steady or whatever
term they used at the.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Time, because that was the only access you had to
anything female exactly. There was no playboy that came later.
There was no cell phone where you could look up porn,
which came later. There was no casual relationships with text
or email or any of that stuff that came later.
If you wanted female interaction, which your brain is programmed
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for if you're a straight male, not just your brain
but your penis, thank you, you.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Asked for it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You had to jump through hoops to get it. You
had to go through a lot, you had to develop
a set of balls. There was an interesting statistic at
all of this that I saw. It's deeper into it,
deeper into.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
The survey here, but it says about fifty six percent
of gen z Dahers said that the fear of rejection
kept them from pursuing a potential relationship, and about the
same amount said they had actually refrained from confessing their
feelings about someone because they.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Were worried that it would be a turnoff.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Think about that, you're attracted to this person, but you
don't want to tell them.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That you're attracted to them.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's been the way, because you're afraid that they're going
to I remember being wrong, I.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Remember feeling that way. I feel like that has been
That's a constant. I think that, you know, the aloofness
you see teenagers have has been a constant. I mean,
that's the way it was, at least when I was
a teenager. Act like you don't care about something. That's
so that's the cool thing to do, is act like
you don't care when you care entirely, whether it's your family,
your friends, a love interest. Even when you care so much,
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you have to act like whatever, because it's not cool
to care, because then you're opening yourself up and being vulnerable,
and it's terrifying to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Well, the interesting one of the interesting aspects about it
is that it might not be bad that that young
people might actually benefit from a lack of romantic activity.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Maybe they'll wait until they're actually ready for it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
We'll explain that when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (20:50):
We'll come back and talk about why it is that
this lack of romantic activity might actually be a benefit
for young people.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
You're listening to Arian Shannon on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (21:06):
Wow, why did you put that on me?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Because you were thinking the same thing that I said
out loud. The S and P five hundred has dropped
more than ten percent below its record following the latest
escalation in this trade war. It is nine point nine
percent below its record. The Dow down right now six
hundred and one points, NASDAC down one point two percent
(21:32):
as we well, wait what's going to happen when it
comes to tariffs on steel and aluminum coming from Canada.
President said they planned increase to fifty percent. Was a
response to Canada saying that they're going to go after electricity.
The White House just moments ago calling what Canada has
done as egregious.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Egregious.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I don't know if we've ever experienced in our life
times a trade war like this. If there has been,
I've never been aware of attention. Yeah, which goes to
our conversation about politics and people. A little over forty
percent of registered voters in the city of La say
(22:17):
they think that Karen Bass did a poor or very
poor job responding to the fires. Nineteen percent said her
response was either good or excellent. This is a new
study from the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies. About
one in five LA City residents thought she was doing
a fair job. Everybody else had no opinion. We are
(22:42):
expecting rain. There has been some rain already today. We'll
get most of the big storm. We'll be rolling in
late tomorrow into Thursday morning.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, when it comes to moving away from romance or relationships,
everyone's saying, Oh, the young people, they're not coupling up.
What's happening? What is it all mean? Well, I think
you hit the nail on the head when you said
it's all about the definition and the labels they're constantly changing.
Do young people consider what they're doing as in a
relationship or a boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Girl?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Have they dated? What is dating even mean? Does this
mean hooking up with somebody?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
What is hooking up?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Meanes? Hooking up mean just hooking up or having sex?
Or what the hell does anything mean anymore? It changes
all the time. Being a well rounded grown up, they say,
doesn't require romantic experience of any kind. Amy Rower is
a human development professor at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville,
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and she says, often you know adolescents, emerging adulthood, or
times of uncertainty, and what people need most is often
just a cheerleader, Whether it's a friend, or a grandparent
or a coach. Someone who makes them feel secure in
a relationship doesn't have to be a boyfriend or a girlfriend, say,
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Teens can learn social skills, how to make small talk,
resolve arguments, empathize in all sorts of relationships. The romantic
relationship the milestone, so to speak. It's not necessary for development.
She's the one who points out that some research actually
suggests that young people might benefit from a lack of this.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
If one study says that compared with teenagers who do date,
the students who date either very infrequently or not at
all over a seven year period were seen by their
teachers as having better leadership skills, better social skills. They
reported fewer symptoms of depression.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Because they're focusing on things that are not their painess. Uh. Yes,
Sometimes if you are into a boy or into a girl,
it's kind of all you can think about, and you're
not focused on the things that you should be focused on,
whether it's school or work or other relationships. And you
know what, sometimes those things make you sad. When you're
not get what you want, or if it's unrequited love,
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that kind of thing makes you depressed.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Again, more loss of focus.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right, they said.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Also, love isn't always positive because of that more emotional
whirlwround that you're talking about can be the distraction, but
it can also be in the worst cases. Abusive adolescent
girls experience intimate partner violence, they said, at particularly high rates,
and then when it ends the breakups that we've all
been through, teenagers don't really have the mechanism to deal
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with it, which is why it's an important thing we
told our kids when they started doing this whole thing
about what even what friends they would hang out with,
but romantic partners, was you've got to be able to
find somebody or one of the characteristics that we would
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want for our kids is someone that encourages them to
do what they want or encourages them to be good.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You know, make sure that if my daughter's.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Going out with the guy that he has good grades
and wants her to have good grades too, and doesn't constantly.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Go, I don't worry about your homework, you can do
it later or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Or or my son dates a girl who encourages him
to get a job or go to college or something like.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That thing to better themselves. Yeah, and not just the
it's very attractive. It's a very attractive thing.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But I just don't see.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I mean, there aren't enough teenagers out there who have
the wherewithal, who have the self company of them.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
To do that for you, right, some of those relationships
that I think that you are more likely to find
later on. I think when you're teenagers, all your run
by or your hormones, you don't really care if that
person is getting good grades or although I must say
one of my girlfriends, her daughter started dating fourteen years old,
started dat again.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I don't know what the term is.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
This guy and he's super into church, and he's super
into school, and her daughter starts studying more, she starts
getting straight A. I mean, she wasn't a bad student
to begin with, but suddenly hyper focused on this straight
a's into church, happier less. I mean, she saw like
all these benefits in her daughter from this young relationship.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So I mean, it can't happen, I guess at that age.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But yeah, you would prefer that your kids not hook
up with the guy who did his class for fentanyl.
You know, it would be nice. That's the dream, right,
I just went worst case scenario. That's the dream is
that your kid or whoever you care about is with
someone who makes them the best version of themselves.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Too often that it's not the case. People are awful.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Up next, we'll get into swamp watch a little bit
about politics, because it is really dominating the economic news today.
But there's also a potential government shutdown floating around.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Joey Bosa going to San Francisco Real you with his brother,
that's the rumor. Well that's a rumor, but that's always
been what they wanted, the two of them. I think
it's probably gonna be a one year deal something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We'll talk about Katie Porter running for governor.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bloodbath for the forty nine ers yesterday, man, my brother
said it best. Or like the Jaguars, like everybody to
use check greenlaw left. I'm going to see green law
twice a year. He went to the Broncos. Anyway, that
a conversation off the air, Gary Shannon will consin.
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Leave you one more?
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That's hurtful. The Dow is a mess.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's having another down day on Wall Street right now.
Dow down six seventy seven. Markets lost a combined four
trillion dollars in value yesterday.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Don't panic yet.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Investors remain concerned over the state of the economy as
this tariff war standoff, whatever it is, continues. Nasdaq S
and P five hundred lower as well as you can
imagine all that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Also playing in the background is this ongoing fight over
a potential government shutdown. The Republican led House is planning
a vote, I believe, at about one o'clock today our time,
on a stopgap measure to keep the federal government funded
beyond Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Politico has said that Vice President J. D.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Vance met with House Republicans today and said that Republicans
will be taking the blame for the government shutdown if
they don't pass this. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
said this is squarely at the feet of Democrats if
they don't pass something.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So some dispute there, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, we broke this to you as it was breaking yesterday.
We saw this coming. The murder trial of that Orange
County judge who pulled a gun from his ankle holster
and shot and killed his wife during an argument in
their home in Anaheim Hills has ended in a mistrial.
Jurors could not agree on a unanimous verdict, which means
that they could not agree, thank you, despite more hours
(02:01):
of deliberation than even evidence that they heard. This was
Superior Court Judge Jeffrey Ferguson, who, while sitting at the
police station said aloud to himself, I killed her. Ladies
and gentlemen of the jury, convict my ass I did
it well. The actual jury did not.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The jury for person was telling a judge yesterday. So
they were hung on a second degree murder charge eleven
to one guilty eleven to one guilty they had had
they unanimously agreed that he was not guilty of the
second degree murder, they could have considered either a lesser
involuntary manslaughter conviction, or even acquitted him of all the charges.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
He seemed to be holding back emotion during the week
long trial. He did not show any obvious reaction to
the announcement of the mistrial. Here's how it went down.
If you're just joining the story, This was a judge.
She liked his cocktails. He and his wife and one
of the sons, they go out to dinner there in
Orange County.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
They had a couple pops.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
After having a couple pops at home, they get into
an argument about spending money on a son that he
had had with another woman before these two were married.
And as fights over money, off and get it gets
contentious and he's at the dinner table when he uses
his fingers in his hand to form the form a gun.
(03:29):
You know what I mean, make a gun with your
hand with your fingers, right, we know how to do that.
He does that to her at the table and she
says something effective, why don't you use a real gun.
They get home a couple more pops, they continue to
get into it. He claims that he was trying to
put the gun away and he took it out of
his holster, it went off, it fired, and it killed her.
(03:51):
The prosecutors argued, no, he obviously took it out in
the heat of the moment, shot her and killed her.
The son, who was there in the home that went
to dinner and was in the home, subsequently said that
his mother's last words were, he shot me. He The
judge also, just moments after he shot and killed her,
(04:12):
got on his phone and started texting his bailiff and
court reporter. Hey, I'm not going to be in tomorrow.
Sorry about that. I've shot and killed my wife. Yet,
this is a jury that could not decide based on
what I can only believe was a muddled explanation of
the law. My only explanation is that they did not
explain the law correctly to these us because the second
(04:36):
degree murder charge is an implied malice murder. And here's
how it's been described to me. You have a loaded
gun and you fire it into a crowd of people.
Do you mean to shoot and kill any.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Of those people? No, you do not, But you know
that what.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You're doing is inherently dangerous. You know that you're operating
with a conscious disregard of human life. That there alone
is enough to get get you to a second degree murder.
And they could not find that in this case. They
must have believed the defense argument, or at least a
one person stuck in dug in and would not believe
(05:11):
anything different than the defense explanation that this guy had
had a couple pops, he was trying to put the
gun away, he's got the arthritis in the shoulder, he
was sloppy, the gun went off and killed her.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, the prosecutors were basically saying it was a complete
BS story that he admitted over and over again to
shooting his wife. He said it outside the house, he
said it in the police station. The key, at least
to the defense was he never admitted to intentionally shooting
his wife. And the way the prosecutors argued that was
they said, well, this guy's clearly a judge. This guy
(05:44):
knows the law, and he has the ability with that
knowledge of the law, he has the ability to answer
certain questions in certain ways to avoid culpability.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But he didn't need to intentionally shoot her. That's what
a second degree murder. Is is right? Yeah, and that's I
think your point is perfect. That what we understand as
the basic definition of second degree murder, this actually this
fits it, and he admits to it. Todd Spitzer, the
DA says that this is despite the hung jury, this
(06:16):
and mistrial. This is a success for him because and
for the ocda's office, because they have an eleven to one.
They're pretty confident that they could do this again with
twelve more juriors and come up with a twelve nothing.
Tod Spitzer could take a dump in the morning and
call it a successful day.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, I think that's.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You think that many people would. Many people would. Yeah,
you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, I mean you made you made it here before
you had your experiment.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Before I peed the car. Yeah, I did make it.
Thank you for letting me take that victory letter. Well today,
all right? Coming up next. Did you ever know that
there was a Life After Death club.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
In Orange County?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well there is, and they dedicate themselves to learning about
people after they pass on. It's probably like a grief tool. Okay,
you got just open your mind. As we move into
the next segment, we shall.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
See you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Coming up next, a lot of American adults withdrawing from romance.
Have you noticed it's not just young people, but the
trend seems to be especially pronounced for people born between
nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve. They say that love
is media driven. Not completely wrong, we'll dive into it.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, there is a Life After Life Club and it's
where exactly where you would think you would find it,
exactly where you think you would find it, and that
is what I think of as a wonderful place to
spend my golden Year's leisure World.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
They're in Orange County.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
There's always a bathroom around the corner.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The majority of residents in their mid seventies at leisure
World and for almost twenty years, the Life After Life
Club has gathered to learn about the healing power of UFOs,
trance channeling the power of animal communication, near death experiences.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Their sessions are recorded.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Their YouTube channel has about thirty thousand subscribers more than
three point five million visitors, and recently they all got
together to hear what the dead have to say to
the living.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It's very beetlejuice, isn't it. I know, you don't believe
in any of it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You don't have to come down anywhere because this is
this could be something that evolves. I think a lot
of people are doubters of psychics and things like that,
and that's what they had. They had a psychic come in.
Jennifer Rose is her name, very New agey, and.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
She speaks.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
She says of spirit. She's speaking of the dead, but
she would never use that word. She says the dead
are lifeless and gone, but the spirit which she courts
is animated, full of love and loved. And they want
to talk to Jennifer Rose about not only what the
(09:51):
dead have to say to the living, but also to communicate.
I mean, think about the demo here, leisure world. People
in their mid seventies. Everyone's kind of with their own mortality.
They probably have loss in their life, recent loss, a
lot of it, and they want to believe that there's
something beyond this world, or some of them want to
(10:12):
believe that. So that's why they gather for this. She says,
what happens when we pass over? That's what she asks
the group. She says, as a medium, I bring a
lot of people together in reuniting, and I deliver a
lot of apologies too.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Isn't that fascinating?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
All the people that have rifts with others and somebody
passes on and that riff remains and it bothers them.
One woman who didn't want to give her name, confide
she liked to hear from her brother, who recently died.
She says they were close until this last year, she said,
when he lost his mind to cirrhosis and they fell apart,
(10:53):
so she wanted to patch things up.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, that's where my.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The questions begin for me, which is oftentimes if you're
going to if you're gonna go see a medium or
a psychic or a spirit talk or whatever term, it's
because you feel like there's some unfinished business that you
want finished. I didn't get to answer the question, or
I didn't get to tell you that I loved you,
(11:22):
or I didn't get to hear from you that you
were proud of me, whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And I think of.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
In my instance, for example, my parents died, but I'd
never felt like there was unsaid stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
We got it all out, we did everything we could.
We were there.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I was there when both of them pat like, that's
a complete picture for me if I were to go
see somebody like this. I don't have any open wounds
that need to be solved, solved, saved. I don't have
any wounds that need to be fixed. You know I don't.
I'm not emotionally broken by my parents and need them
(12:03):
to apologize or need.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
To hear this something you want to tell them, like
if maybe if you know your daughter had a baby
or something.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I don't know. I have no idea what you would
want to You've.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Broken a lot of news about my family in the
last ten minutes, and I want to know if that's
true or not.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
My daughter is pregnant, she's not. Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No. The only news I broke is that it's her
like best friend's birthday. I sat on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
One woman at.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This leisure World gathering raised her hand with a story
and a question. Her husband, she said, passed away almost
five years ago, and the first year she felt him constantly.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I've heard this before, she says.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
The TV came on, the lights came on, we started talking,
the clock would go crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
But then after a year and.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
A half, I woke up and I almost felt him
pull from me and he was gone. Do they move
on after so long? She said, that's a gift that
you got all that. She said, I love all that stuff,
the knox atteps, the banging on the walls, the change
in temperature, things like that. That what she experienced was pure, unconditional,
(13:14):
extreme love. She attributes his sudden departure to the questioner's
healing and need for new experiences. But that doesn't mean
he can't return, she says, Now, I have heard that
the departed sometimes stick around for a while, whether it's
a day or three days or a week or what
have you, or maybe longer, but then they continue on
(13:36):
their journey because they want to make sure you're okay,
or someone's okay, or the family's okay, the home's okay,
things like that. But I don't think it matters what
we think about. This is long. It's kind of like faith, right.
You look at people that attend church religiously, they seem
(13:56):
to be a happy people. It doesn't matter that you
don't believe in it, or you don't think this is
true or how could that happen?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Or whatever?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Who cares it's not for you? Then it's for them.
Same thing with this kind of stuff. It doesn't matter
if you and I believe that the lights went off
in here because it was your parents saying, stop talking
about this, it's stupid. It just matters for the people
that it helps.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
If it helps you, like if you're a.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Totally listen and I mean, there's grief. How many times
as we said, there's no playbook for grief. We all
react differently. Some of us it hits immediately, some of
us it's a delayed reaction to grief, or it's a
continuous grief, or sometimes it's just in short spurts. It's
one of those things where if that's what you need
(14:43):
to help, like I said, heal those wounds that you
think exists between you and your dearly departed.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Absolutely, And if.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I get hit by a bus or something on my
way home, I'm totally going to stick around and f
with you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Like I mean, I think that would be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You're going to you're going to die in a crash
while you're peeing into a bucket.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So maybe, but I'm going to stick around for probably
about a year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
All right, Gary, what happens if our teenagers never date romantically,
but they just they just don't do it, Like, why,
what's the what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
We're breaking our children.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's a trend.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Stories we're following for you today. We will soon learn
more information about that deadly mid air collision between the
American Airlines passenger jet and that Army helicopter. NTSB will
give an update today on the January twenty ninth collision.
This happened remember in DC than when the American Airlines
plane collided with the Army Blackhawk, killing sixty seven people.
(15:52):
That news conference is set to begin in less than
a half an hour on the East coast.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
President Trump is going to stick up for his buddy
Elon Muskin, said he is going to support Elon quote.
I'm going to buy a brand new Tesla tomorrow morning
as a show of confidence and support for Elon Musk,
a truly great American. Why should he be punished from
putting his tremendous skills to work in order in order
to help make America great again. Sean Hannity Fox News
(16:19):
also said that he's going to be buying a new Tesla.
The company's share price suffered its steepest decline in five
years yesterday, I mean all of Wall Street has been
taking it in the short yesterday and today the Dow
is down about seven hundred points as of right now.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
A lot of American adults with drawing from romance. In
a twenty twenty three poll from the survey On Survey
Center on American Life, looks like young people is the
group that is.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Pulling away the most.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The number of teens experiencing romantic relationships has dropped quite
a bit. According to this Survey Center, or fifty six
percent of Gen Z adults say they'd been in a
romantic relationship at any point in their teen years, compared
with seventy six percent the generation before and seventy eight
percent the generation before that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I wonder if, just right off the bat, if part
of that is just a definition of what is a
romantic relationship.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I agree with you completely, because it's evolved, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I think so because in the old days, in the
old days, say forties fifty sixties, if there was a
teenage girl and a teenage boy and they were in
a relationship, together. It went through a process, and there
was a lot of formality to that courtship many times,
not that I was alive then, but i've you know,
(17:46):
you've seen the movies. That's just kind of the way
the teenage boy would would have to go and carefully
dress up and go to the girl's house and meet
the parents, and then they would be in kind of
a relationship and maybe they were going steady or whatever
term they used at the.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Time, because that was the only access you had to
anything female exactly. There was no playboy that came later.
There was no cell phone where you could look up porn,
which came later. There was no casual relationships with text
or email or any of that stuff that came later.
If you wanted female interaction, which your brain is programmed
(18:24):
for if you're a straight male, not just your brain
but your penis, thank you, you.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Asked for it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You had to jump through hoops to get it. You
had to go through a lot, you had to develop
a set of balls. There was an interesting statistic at
all of this that I saw. It's deeper into it,
deeper into.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
The survey here, but it says about fifty six percent
of gen z Dahers said that the fear of rejection
kept them from pursuing a potential relationship, and about the
same amount said they had actually refrained from confessing their
feelings about someone because they.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Were worried that it would be a turnoff.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Think about that, you're attracted to this person, but you
don't want to tell them.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That you're attracted to them.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's been the way, because you're afraid that they're going
to I remember being wrong, I.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Remember feeling that way. I feel like that has been
That's a constant. I think that, you know, the aloofness
you see teenagers have has been a constant. I mean,
that's the way it was, at least when I was
a teenager. Act like you don't care about something. That's
so that's the cool thing to do, is act like
you don't care when you care entirely, whether it's your family,
your friends, a love interest. Even when you care so much,
(19:43):
you have to act like whatever, because it's not cool
to care, because then you're opening yourself up and being vulnerable,
and it's terrifying to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Well, the interesting one of the interesting aspects about it
is that it might not be bad that that young
people might actually benefit from a lack of romantic activity.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Maybe they'll wait until they're actually ready for it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
We'll explain that when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (20:50):
We'll come back and talk about why it is that
this lack of romantic activity might actually be a benefit
for young people.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
You're listening to Arian Shannon on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Wow, why did you put that on me?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Because you were thinking the same thing that I said
out loud. The S and P five hundred has dropped
more than ten percent below its record following the latest
escalation in this trade war. It is nine point nine
percent below its record. The Dow down right now six
hundred and one points, NASDAC down one point two percent
(21:32):
as we well, wait what's going to happen when it
comes to tariffs on steel and aluminum coming from Canada.
President said they planned increase to fifty percent. Was a
response to Canada saying that they're going to go after electricity.
The White House just moments ago calling what Canada has
done as egregious.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Egregious.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I don't know if we've ever experienced in our life
times a trade war like this. If there has been,
I've never been aware of attention. Yeah, which goes to
our conversation about politics and people. A little over forty
percent of registered voters in the city of La say
(22:17):
they think that Karen Bass did a poor or very
poor job responding to the fires. Nineteen percent said her
response was either good or excellent. This is a new
study from the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies. About
one in five LA City residents thought she was doing
a fair job. Everybody else had no opinion. We are
(22:42):
expecting rain. There has been some rain already today. We'll
get most of the big storm. We'll be rolling in
late tomorrow into Thursday morning.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, when it comes to moving away from romance or relationships,
everyone's saying, Oh, the young people, they're not coupling up.
What's happening? What is it all mean? Well, I think
you hit the nail on the head when you said
it's all about the definition and the labels they're constantly changing.
Do young people consider what they're doing as in a
relationship or a boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Girl?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Have they dated? What is dating even mean? Does this
mean hooking up with somebody?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
What is hooking up?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Meanes? Hooking up mean just hooking up or having sex?
Or what the hell does anything mean anymore? It changes
all the time. Being a well rounded grown up, they say,
doesn't require romantic experience of any kind. Amy Rower is
a human development professor at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville,
(23:38):
and she says, often you know adolescents, emerging adulthood, or
times of uncertainty, and what people need most is often
just a cheerleader, Whether it's a friend, or a grandparent
or a coach. Someone who makes them feel secure in
a relationship doesn't have to be a boyfriend or a girlfriend, say,
(24:00):
Teens can learn social skills, how to make small talk,
resolve arguments, empathize in all sorts of relationships. The romantic
relationship the milestone, so to speak. It's not necessary for development.
She's the one who points out that some research actually
suggests that young people might benefit from a lack of this.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
If one study says that compared with teenagers who do date,
the students who date either very infrequently or not at
all over a seven year period were seen by their
teachers as having better leadership skills, better social skills. They
reported fewer symptoms of depression.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Because they're focusing on things that are not their painess. Uh. Yes,
Sometimes if you are into a boy or into a girl,
it's kind of all you can think about, and you're
not focused on the things that you should be focused on,
whether it's school or work or other relationships. And you
know what, sometimes those things make you sad. When you're
not get what you want, or if it's unrequited love,
(25:02):
that kind of thing makes you depressed.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Again, more loss of focus.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right, they said.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Also, love isn't always positive because of that more emotional
whirlwround that you're talking about can be the distraction, but
it can also be in the worst cases. Abusive adolescent
girls experience intimate partner violence, they said, at particularly high rates,
and then when it ends the breakups that we've all
been through, teenagers don't really have the mechanism to deal
(25:31):
with it, which is why it's an important thing we
told our kids when they started doing this whole thing
about what even what friends they would hang out with,
but romantic partners, was you've got to be able to
find somebody or one of the characteristics that we would
(25:52):
want for our kids is someone that encourages them to
do what they want or encourages them to be good.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You know, make sure that if my daughter's.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Going out with the guy that he has good grades
and wants her to have good grades too, and doesn't constantly.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Go, I don't worry about your homework, you can do
it later or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Or or my son dates a girl who encourages him
to get a job or go to college or something like.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That thing to better themselves. Yeah, and not just the
it's very attractive. It's a very attractive thing.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But I just don't see.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I mean, there aren't enough teenagers out there who have
the wherewithal, who have the self company of them.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
To do that for you, right, some of those relationships
that I think that you are more likely to find
later on. I think when you're teenagers, all your run
by or your hormones, you don't really care if that
person is getting good grades or although I must say
one of my girlfriends, her daughter started dating fourteen years old,
started dat again.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I don't know what the term is.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
This guy and he's super into church, and he's super
into school, and her daughter starts studying more, she starts
getting straight A. I mean, she wasn't a bad student
to begin with, but suddenly hyper focused on this straight
a's into church, happier less. I mean, she saw like
all these benefits in her daughter from this young relationship.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So I mean, it can't happen, I guess at that age.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But yeah, you would prefer that your kids not hook
up with the guy who did his class for fentanyl.
You know, it would be nice. That's the dream, right,
I just went worst case scenario. That's the dream is
that your kid or whoever you care about is with
someone who makes them the best version of themselves.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Too often that it's not the case. People are awful.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Up next, we'll get into swamp watch a little bit
about politics, because it is really dominating the economic news today.
But there's also a potential government shutdown floating around.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Joey Bosa going to San Francisco Real you with his brother,
that's the rumor. Well that's a rumor, but that's always
been what they wanted, the two of them. I think
it's probably gonna be a one year deal something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We'll talk about Katie Porter running for governor.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bloodbath for the forty nine ers yesterday, man, my brother
said it best. Or like the Jaguars, like everybody to
use check greenlaw left. I'm going to see green law
twice a year. He went to the Broncos. Anyway, that
a conversation off the air, Gary Shannon will consin.
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