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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
The investigation is continuing into the shooting death of Charlie Kirk,
and the FBI shared photos of a person of interest today.
There was a news conference scheduled for a short time
ago that has been postponed, they said because of rapid
developments in the case. Who don't know if they've identified
the suspect or this person of interest, but they are
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looking for more information. Some of the details that we
know is that they had found a bolt action rifle
that apparently had at least one empty shell casing in
it one spent round. It would comport with the one
shot that was heard yesterday at at that college in
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Utah where Charlie Kirk was holding an event and where
he was shot and killed. Hard to overstate how important
Charlie Kirk was to growing number of young conservative voters.
Ems was only thirty one years old, but started his
turning Point USA back when he was I believe eighteen
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years old. John Decker, kfi's White House correspondent, has joined
us to talk a little bit more about this and John,
can you explain what kind of a relationship Charlie Kirk
had with President Trump.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It was a very strong relationship. The President viewed him
as something like a son. He was the best friend
of Donald Trump Junior. In fact, it was Charlie Kirk
who recommended JD. Vans to President Trump as President Trump's
running mate this past election cycle. That went along with
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what Donald Trump Junior had also recommended. They've known each other,
Gary for over a decade. And of course you mentioned
Turning Point USA instrumental in Donald Trump's victory in the
November elections in the sense that he used all of
his support to Duorknock in battleground states like Arizona and Wisconsin,
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and of course both of those battleground states were won
by President Trump in November.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
President Trump announced today at an unrelated, obviously September eleventh
memorial event at the Pentagon that he was going to
bestow upon Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's right. The President made that announcement before he made
his remarks at the Pentagon commemorating the twenty fourth anniversary
of the September eleventh terrorist attacks on our country. The
Presidential Medal of Freedom will be bestowed on Charlie Kirk posthumously,
and that's the highest civilian honor an American can receive.
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That again gives you an idea about how close the
President was with Charlie Kirk. You know, the President made
video remarks that he released last night from the Oval Office,
and you think about this, Gary, that doesn't happen that often.
Number one, and number two, it doesn't happen that often
just to pay tribute homage respect to a private citizen.
(03:08):
And so that too gives you an idea about the
closeness between President Trump and Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Charlie Kirk was although may not have been necessarily a
household name to a lot of people, I think for you,
for people who live and work in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
We kind of alluded to it. But what was arguably one.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Of the most influential people in the last election, simply
because he was able to galvanize and mobilize so many
young conservative voters who went to the polls for Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah. Over the course of the past decade, he's traveled
from campus to campus and espousing his conservative viewpoints that
often can port with policies at President Trump, and he
had a following for sure. I think you could argue
he was a conservative influencer before we even knew what
that term influencer was. Charlie Kirk at thirty one, had
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accomplished so much in his young life. And you mentioned
it earlier, Gary starting Turning Point USA when he was
just eighteen years old and building up that organization into
a powerhouse, a powerhouse in the conservative movement.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
When we can insert any incident of political violence in
the last ten years or so, I mean, we've got
Minnesota state lawmakers who were shot, Pennsylvania's governor who was
firebombed at one point. The former president was on the
campaign trail of course last summer when he was shot
at a senator, shot on a baseball field several years ago,
an attempt on a Supreme Court justice. I mean, this
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is the This is an unfortunate, acidic part of American politics.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Does it when? Does it end.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well? We depend upon our leaders, and our leaders spoken.
President Trump spoke from the Oval Office last night urging
some sense of unity and to try to tamp down
the political rhetoric. We also heard that today from Democrats
from both Chuck Schumer, leader for Democrats in the Senate,
Hakeem Jeffries, leader for the Democrats in the House. But
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they're the leaders, and it doesn't always mean that those
who are the rank and file members always listen to
the leaders. And that's I think is the problem. I
think that's one of the reasons when we saw an
attempt yesterday at that moment of silence, it break out
into what you could argue was a verbal food fight.
There is a lack of civility, a lack of unity,
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even after this horrific tragedy Gary that took place yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Obviously, this took place in orum Utah, small town you know,
out here in the west. But have you seen increased
security over the last twenty four hours there in the
DC area?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, when you asked me that question, I think the
better way to frame it is is there increased security
among individuals who are very prominent on the progressive side
of things in politics. And I would imagine I don't
know this for a factory, I want to be clear
about this, but I would imagine people that are very
prominent in that vein like Alexandrio Cassio Cortez does have
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increased security right now, because there just simply are a
lot of people that are not well that you know,
could act out on urges, and you know, for that reason,
it makes sense for them to have increased security. She's
a member of Congress. Charlie Kirk was a private citizen,
and although he traveled everywhere college campus to college campus
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with security, he hired private security. If someone Gary is
hell bent on harming an individual, you see what could happen.
And that's what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, all right, John, thank you for your time. Thank
you Gary about John Decker their case White House correspondent
about sort of what's going on in DC today as
after the Charlie Kirk shooting.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
All right, we did that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We're going to get to our trending stories and we're
going to do some strange science when we come back.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
We'll get to our trending stories here in just a moment.
Just wanted to update you. We do know that there
is a news conference still scheduled. It has been postponed
and we're not sure the exact time, but there was
supposed to be a news conference at eleven forty five
regarding the shooting of Charlie Kirk. The law enforcement and
investigators that are checking this case out have said that
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they are postponing the news conference because of rapid developments
in the case. This comes just a couple of hours
after they released photos of what they said was a
person of interest in the case. So that is coming up,
and if it doesn't happen here, you can hear it
John Show a little bit later whenever that news conference
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takes place.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So what else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
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two nine ninety nine sixty. Some leaders throughout California have
reacted to Charlie Kirk's shooting. The loss was felt deeply,
they said by Roxanne Hoague. You've heard her on the
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show here before. She said, our friend, our dear friend,
Charlie Kirk, whose mission is to speak to people, was
shot violently by someone who thinks that speech is violence.
She was at the march that Charlie Kirk had at
USC if you remember that he also visited Northridge. Both
of those drew mixed reactions from students. There was actually
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a and I just reminded of this because of that.
Gavin Newsome in his podcast interviewed Charlie Kirk for the
first episode of the podcast, and Gavin Newsom touted it
as a way to kind of reach across the aisle
and to have the elevated levels of discussion and debate
that have been missing in other parts of politics these days.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I listened to it when it came out.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I was on vacation that week, I remember, but I
was impressed by both Charlie Kirk and Gavenusom, who clearly
do not like each other personally, but they were able
to hold the conversation about politics and culture and and
and policy, et cetera. There was a point actually where
Gavin Newsom referred to that event at USC back in March,
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because I guess Gavin Newsom's niece attends USC. And then
Gavin Newsom blew Charlie Kirk away by saying, my son
follows you.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
She said, you never know, these kids are going to
the right.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I'm aware, she said, this crowd's crazy he said. She
said she had and the only reason she said she
would have said it perhaps otherwise, but she knew you
were coming on the worst part though, Charlie no bes
true story. Literally last night, trying to put my son
to bed, He's like, no, Dad, I just what time.
What time's Charlie going to be here?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
What time?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And I'm like, dude, you're in school. Tomorrow's thirteen. He's like, no, no, no,
this morning wakes up at six up. Then he's like
I'm coming. I'm like he literally would not leave the house.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Did you let him take off school?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He did, of course not.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
He's not here for a good reason. But the point
is the canceled school for two years. Once. The point
is the okay.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So it was one of those discussion that there was
humorous at times, it was serious at other times.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
But that was back in March again.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That was the first episode of that Gavin Newsom podcast
where he actually spent an hour plus talking with Charlie Kirk.
Republican Assembly Leader James Gallagher is behind this long shot
effort to split California into a couple of states and
now thinks he says Orange County should be added to
the new proposed state, even though it's coastal and most
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of the new state would be comprised of inland counties.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He floated the idea a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Listen, I've lived in California almost my entire life, and
it feels like every say, five, six, seven years something
like that, someone comes up with a plan to split
the state up, whether it's in half into thirds vertically,
however they want to do it, but it's not going
to go anywhere. The original plan, by the way that
James Gallagher put out there would keep all of the
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coastal counties in one state except Dell nort County way
up in the north, but that he thinks Orange County
would move into that inland state. He said, due to
the overwhelming response, we are adding Orange County to the
new state proposal. Orange would be so severely Gavin mandered
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under Prop fifty that they would lose representation to LA. So,
speaking of LA, the city Council has unanimously approved emotion
to move some of the Olympic events from Exposition Park
to the Rose Bowl Aquatic Center in Pasadena. This decision
was made was was made following a request from LA
twenty eight, which is the organizing committee for the Olympics.
(12:04):
They said they wanted to get the venue changed for
the diving events. The venue change, they say, could save
money to the tune of like fifteen to eighteen million
dollars just by taking it out of the Exposition Park
area and putting it in that Rose Bowl Aquatic Center
over in Pasadena. If you drive an EV and you
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got one of those arrogant little stickers on the corner,
it's that privilege of driving in the carpool lane quietly
will end at the end of the month. It's been
around for twenty five years, and it allowed electric vehicle
drivers with a required decal access to the carpool lane,
even if you were driving solo, or you and a dog,
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or you and not enough other people to qualify. The
administration decided against extending the program. The California Resources Board
website says under section one sixty sixth of Title twenty
three of the US Code, federal legislation was recquid to
authorize an extension, but no such action has been taken.
So the final day to order a decal was August
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twenty ninth, and if you did, I guess you get
it in a week or so, and then you drive
in the carpool lane for like three days. The last
day the decal will be valid is September thirtieth. Right now,
there are according to the California Resources Board, there's about
half a million electric vehicles that have those decals, which
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would allow them to drive in the carpool lane. And finally,
US officials say that solar powered highway signs could actually
hide batteries and inverters and radios. This advisory from the
Department of Transportations Federal Highway Administration comes as we continue
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to try to figure out just how integrated Chinese and
other foreign intelligence systems might be in our basic infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So as you drive down the road, you're.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Driving down a freeway and you see a call box
or a sign that's got one of those solar panels
on it.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's the inverter part, right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It might also have some batteries attached to that to
keep the electricity roll undering the night times, et cetera.
But there's a concern that rogue devices like radios could
be inside those batteries and inverters. The Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security
Agency says this needs to be looked at, and that
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we should have scans for the presence of those rogue devices.
That's federal and state level reporting about undocumented cellular radios
that have been found inside inverters and batteries, and that
there should be national level assessments that determine whether or
not they actually pose a risk to all of us.
All right, that's your threatening stories, brought to you by
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our friends from Trading Wealth. We're going to get into
some very fun, much less serious, strange science.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Stories when we come back to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (15:11):
Of course, our top story is the continuing aftermath of
the assassination of Charlie Kirk on that university campus in
Utah just yesterday, little more than twenty four hours ago.
Authorities there have delayed a news conference that was about
to take place into the investigation of whoever it was
that shot Charlie Kirk. They said it was because of
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rapid developments in the investigation. Fox is also reporting now
that FBI Director Cash Pttel is on his way to Utah.
It would then make perfect sense that they're waiting for
the director of the FBI to be on the ground
in orm Utah before they actually hold whatever news conference
they're about to. They said, these rapid developments in the
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investigation came up, they will suspend this. That was the
Utah Department of Public sayfty director of Communications said they
will release an updated time later today. That is, of course,
we're all watching it. We're all waiting to see what
it is that they come up with. Right as the
show started today, the FBI out of Salt Lake City
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did release a photo, a couple photos actually, of somebody
wearing a black long sleeve shirt, dark pants, sunglasses, and
a hat, and they said that that was a person
of interest in the shooting. At this point, they didn't
say exactly where or when those images were taken. You
can assume it was going to be somewhere from Utah
Valley University, but we just don't know. They didn't explain
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who it was. They just said the person in those
images was considered a person of interest. Well, on Thursdays
at this time, we'd like to get into some of
the you know, the weirdness, the crazy, you know, the
strange science.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Strange sence. It's like weird science strange.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, we're gonna start with a couple of good wellness
stories because everybody needs to feel a little bit better.
There is a chance that exercise can suppress the growth
of certain cancer cells.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
This is good.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
There's an important new study on exercise and cancer, specifically
cancer survivors. This study, published last month, involved thirty two
women who survive breast cancer. After a single session of
interval training or weightlifting, their blood contain higher levels of
certain molecules and that helped put the brakes on lab
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grown breast cancer cells. Deputy Director of Exercise Medicine Research
down in Australia said that the experiment adds to the
evidence that they have that exercise can not just upend
the risk of developing, but also surviving cancer, and that
exercise can help some cancer survivors actually avoid recurrence of
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their disease. Then, this new study offers an explanation of
how showing that exercise changes the inner workings of our
muscles and our cells. They say more study is obviously
needed in all of this, but it does offer clues
about the specific kinds of exercise that could be most
effective against cancers, against malignancies, and shows us how important.
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Just even a single session of exercise can be for
your health.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So what they did was.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
A pretty widely discussed study that was published a couple
of months ago showed a large group of colon cancer
survivors began a supervised exercise program that included frequent walks,
very fast paced walks, and some more intense workouts like that,
and a second group didn't exercise. Three years later, those
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who exercised were thirty seven percent less likely to have
experienced a cancer recurrence than those who didn't work out,
and they said the outcome was better than that that
was seen with many of the preventative drugs that people
are prescribed in the event that they're diagnosed with cancer.
The other story comes from one of the blue zones.
You ever heard of a blue zone, it's an area
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in the world where people live for a long time
well above average for the rest of the compared to
the rest of the world. And they said it's a
combination of factors physical activity, low stress, social interactions, low
disease incidents, etc. But one of the big factors is
local whole foods. I don't mean whole foods like the
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one across the street. I mean the food that you
get is a whole food that you eat as a
regular part of your diet. And they point to a
specific Costa Rican area called the Nakoya Peninsula in one
of the original Blue Zones. As wellness chasing jet setters
are learning more about this place, they are actually flocking
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to a resort like the w Costa Rica Reserva Conchal.
It's a five star spin on this whole Blue Zone thing.
They draw these tourists into this thing and try to
give people the longer, healthier lives that they're looking for
at least a week at a time. I mean, if
you're there just for a resort, right. One of the
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executive chefs there at the resort said, the Costa Rican
culinary culture has always been natural, honest, health focused. It's
rooted in tradition, food that's preserved, the old fashioned way, etc.
But the average lifespan in that peninsula, the Nakoya Peninsula
is eighty five years old, but a lot of people
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live well beyond that, well over one hundred in some cases.
In fact, they said that the share of people over
one hundred is about three and a half times the
global average. They track the diets of people in these
areas and they found the traditional diet they had a
significantly lower risk of death from any cause. And again
the foundation, they said, lies in a very specific and
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simple ingredient, whole food ingredient, corn beans and squash. So
much of their diet is made up of just corn
beans and squash, and they said it's a very balanced
mix of the complex carbs, the plant based protein, and
the fiber that's good for all of us and for.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That they live longer.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
They don't need a whole lot of red meat, they
don't have a whole lot of animal fats that complement
the diet. They instead go for things like avocado and
seeds and things like that. So corn beans, squash, avocado, seeds,
that's the way to eat.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's the way to do it. We'll do more strange
signs when we come back.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
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Speaker 2 (21:52):
Shannon's out today, she'll be out tomorrow. She's back on Monday.
She's been helping take care of her mom. Had some
healthish ju surgery went well. We know that, so that's
a good news thing. We'll talk with Shannon coming up
on Monday, a couple stories that we're following. We know
that the Utah Department of Public Safety had scheduled a
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news conference for about an hour ago and then quickly
said that they're going to have to postpone it. They
haven't rescheduled or at least given us a specific time
yet when they're going to do this. This, of course,
would be an update on the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
We do know that FBI Director Cash Pattel one of
his deputies, Dan Bongino, they are headed to Utah, So
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in the event that there is some sort of major
development in that case, it's very likely that they'd wait
for the director and the deputy director to get to
Utah before they give us an updated time. So we
do know that they described the postponement cause was rapid
development in the case, but we don't know exactly what
it is.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
We will keep.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
An eye on that and if that news conference takes place,
you'll hear it live here on KFI. Judged down in
Arizona has extended a temporary restraining order that blocks the
administration's efforts to remove Guatemalan Honduran children that live in
shelters or foster care after they came into the US alone.
The judge issued this decision. Just today, the administration temporarily
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stopped from removing Guatemalan children over the Labor Day weekend.
Lawyers for the kids said that those clients didn't want
to go home, that they were afraid of going home,
and that the government was not following the laws that
are designed to protect migrant children. The Trump administration says
it's trying to reunite these kids with their families back
at home, and that that was at the request of
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the Guatemalan government. So another court case, of course, which
seems kind of ubiquitous.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Strange science.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
There's another weird story to tell you about, and I'm
a little bit weirded out by the people who gave
me this story.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Producer Michelle and Kiana.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
A spotted ratfish is a two foot long fish with
a big, old head, long skinny tail. Lives in the
northeastern part of the Pacific Ocean, and it belongs to
a group of fish called chimeras that are pretty closely
related to sharks. Chimeras are sometimes called ghost sharks, and
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like most vertebrates, it's got teeth in its mouth. Okay,
that's not crazy, right. Not all fish have teeth, but
this one does. Unlike other vertebrates, it also has teeth
on its forehead. Okay, now, that I guess in and
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of itself is not the weird part. The weird part
is the teeth on the forehead are actually used for sex. Okay, again,
I apologize for this. The ratfish's extra teeth line is
in a carteliginous appendage called the tenaculum that in males
can stick up you know what, I'm okay, I won't
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even do that again, deployed to grasp a female fish
during mating. Many of the fish have clasping appendages near
their pelvis. This one has it on its forehead. Scientists
have known about this the tenaculum the actual forehead piece
for a while. They just didn't know exactly how the
teeth originated or how they ended up in the weird
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location outside of the mouth. Some of the closer relatives,
like sharks and rays and skates, they do have tooth
like structures in the skin made of the same material
as teeth, but they're not actually teeth. I told you
earlier about an octopus and the study of arm movements.
They don't really have a left handed right handed. They're
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not dominant one side or the other when it comes
to octopus appendages. But they said that these biomechanical marbles
actually use their front arms and their back arms differently.
They use their front arms to explore, they use their
back arms for locomotion. Each of these arms is capable
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of a bunch of different movements, a bunch of different behaviors,
And a study out of the Florida Atlantic University Marine
Science Laboratory actually shows that they believe there is kind
of a language that is spoken one arm movement at
a time by these octopuses that they can use the
there's so many muscles in different ways that they can
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use their tentacles tentacles arms that they can actually use
them as a kind of way to speak to each other.
And if you could imagine, researchers examined a couple of
hours of video footage of each of twenty five wild octopuses,
so fifty five zero hours of octopus habits, and then
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determine four basic ways that an arm can move based
on the muscles that exist in it. You can bend it,
you can torsion it. You know, twist it, you can
shorten it, and you can lengthen it. And they said,
after looking at all those different behaviors, they were able
to come up with a sort of a octopus dictionary,
if you will. All right again, the big story today
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is the FBI leadership is headed to Utah. They were
supposed to hold a news conference at about eleven forty
five hour time for an update on the Charlie Kirk shooting,
and then they postponed it just because they said of
rapid development in the case. One of the things that
Charlie Kirk's stood for was the absolute freedom to express yourself.
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It was literally what he was doing when he was
killed yesterday. And I said this multiple times today. I'm
not worried about your political stance or how you felt
about the guy, but you have to admire his desire
to increase the amount of dialogue that exists in the
United States.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
We'll see you tomorrow. People stop talking.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Really bad stuff starts when marriages stopped talking.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Divorce happens when civilizations stopped talking, civil war and suits.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
When you stop a human connection with someone.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to want
to commit violence against that group. What we as a
culture have to get back to is being able to
have a reasonable disagreement where violence is not an option.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
The investigation is continuing into the shooting death of Charlie Kirk,
and the FBI shared photos of a person of interest today.
There was a news conference scheduled for a short time
ago that has been postponed, they said because of rapid
developments in the case. Who don't know if they've identified
the suspect or this person of interest, but they are
(00:30):
looking for more information. Some of the details that we
know is that they had found a bolt action rifle
that apparently had at least one empty shell casing in
it one spent round. It would comport with the one
shot that was heard yesterday at at that college in
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Utah where Charlie Kirk was holding an event and where
he was shot and killed. Hard to overstate how important
Charlie Kirk was to growing number of young conservative voters.
Ems was only thirty one years old, but started his
turning Point USA back when he was I believe eighteen
(01:11):
years old. John Decker, kfi's White House correspondent, has joined
us to talk a little bit more about this and John,
can you explain what kind of a relationship Charlie Kirk
had with President Trump.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It was a very strong relationship. The President viewed him
as something like a son. He was the best friend
of Donald Trump Junior. In fact, it was Charlie Kirk
who recommended JD. Vans to President Trump as President Trump's
running mate this past election cycle. That went along with
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what Donald Trump Junior had also recommended. They've known each other,
Gary for over a decade. And of course you mentioned
Turning Point USA instrumental in Donald Trump's victory in the
November elections in the sense that he used all of
his support to Duorknock in battleground states like Arizona and Wisconsin,
(02:06):
and of course both of those battleground states were won
by President Trump in November.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
President Trump announced today at an unrelated, obviously September eleventh
memorial event at the Pentagon that he was going to
bestow upon Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's right. The President made that announcement before he made
his remarks at the Pentagon commemorating the twenty fourth anniversary
of the September eleventh terrorist attacks on our country. The
Presidential Medal of Freedom will be bestowed on Charlie Kirk posthumously,
and that's the highest civilian honor an American can receive.
(02:47):
That again gives you an idea about how close the
President was with Charlie Kirk. You know, the President made
video remarks that he released last night from the Oval Office,
and you think about this, Gary, that doesn't happen that often.
Number one, and number two, it doesn't happen that often
just to pay tribute homage respect to a private citizen.
(03:08):
And so that too gives you an idea about the
closeness between President Trump and Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Charlie Kirk was although may not have been necessarily a
household name to a lot of people, I think for you,
for people who live and work in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
We kind of alluded to it. But what was arguably one.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Of the most influential people in the last election, simply
because he was able to galvanize and mobilize so many
young conservative voters who went to the polls for Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah. Over the course of the past decade, he's traveled
from campus to campus and espousing his conservative viewpoints that
often can port with policies at President Trump, and he
had a following for sure. I think you could argue
he was a conservative influencer before we even knew what
that term influencer was. Charlie Kirk at thirty one, had
(04:07):
accomplished so much in his young life. And you mentioned
it earlier, Gary starting Turning Point USA when he was
just eighteen years old and building up that organization into
a powerhouse, a powerhouse in the conservative movement.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
When we can insert any incident of political violence in
the last ten years or so, I mean, we've got
Minnesota state lawmakers who were shot, Pennsylvania's governor who was
firebombed at one point. The former president was on the
campaign trail of course last summer when he was shot
at a senator, shot on a baseball field several years ago,
an attempt on a Supreme Court justice. I mean, this
(04:44):
is the This is an unfortunate, acidic part of American politics.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Does it when? Does it end.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well? We depend upon our leaders, and our leaders spoken.
President Trump spoke from the Oval Office last night urging
some sense of unity and to try to tamp down
the political rhetoric. We also heard that today from Democrats
from both Chuck Schumer, leader for Democrats in the Senate,
Hakeem Jeffries, leader for the Democrats in the House. But
(05:18):
they're the leaders, and it doesn't always mean that those
who are the rank and file members always listen to
the leaders. And that's I think is the problem. I
think that's one of the reasons when we saw an
attempt yesterday at that moment of silence, it break out
into what you could argue was a verbal food fight.
There is a lack of civility, a lack of unity,
(05:42):
even after this horrific tragedy Gary that took place yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Obviously, this took place in orum Utah, small town you know,
out here in the west. But have you seen increased
security over the last twenty four hours there in the
DC area?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, when you asked me that question, I think the
better way to frame it is is there increased security
among individuals who are very prominent on the progressive side
of things in politics. And I would imagine I don't
know this for a factory, I want to be clear
about this, but I would imagine people that are very
prominent in that vein like Alexandrio Cassio Cortez does have
(06:22):
increased security right now, because there just simply are a
lot of people that are not well that you know,
could act out on urges, and you know, for that reason,
it makes sense for them to have increased security. She's
a member of Congress. Charlie Kirk was a private citizen,
and although he traveled everywhere college campus to college campus
(06:45):
with security, he hired private security. If someone Gary is
hell bent on harming an individual, you see what could happen.
And that's what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, all right, John, thank you for your time. Thank
you Gary about John Decker their case White House correspondent
about sort of what's going on in DC today as
after the Charlie Kirk shooting.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
All right, we did that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We're going to get to our trending stories and we're
going to do some strange science when we come back.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
We'll get to our trending stories here in just a moment.
Just wanted to update you. We do know that there
is a news conference still scheduled. It has been postponed
and we're not sure the exact time, but there was
supposed to be a news conference at eleven forty five
regarding the shooting of Charlie Kirk. The law enforcement and
investigators that are checking this case out have said that
(07:42):
they are postponing the news conference because of rapid developments
in the case. This comes just a couple of hours
after they released photos of what they said was a
person of interest in the case. So that is coming up,
and if it doesn't happen here, you can hear it
John Show a little bit later whenever that news conference
(08:02):
takes place.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So what else is going on? Time for what's happening?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
All of our trending stories brought to you by Trajan Wealth.
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two nine ninety nine sixty. Some leaders throughout California have
reacted to Charlie Kirk's shooting. The loss was felt deeply,
they said by Roxanne Hoague. You've heard her on the
(08:31):
show here before. She said, our friend, our dear friend,
Charlie Kirk, whose mission is to speak to people, was
shot violently by someone who thinks that speech is violence.
She was at the march that Charlie Kirk had at
USC if you remember that he also visited Northridge. Both
of those drew mixed reactions from students. There was actually
(08:53):
a and I just reminded of this because of that.
Gavin Newsome in his podcast interviewed Charlie Kirk for the
first episode of the podcast, and Gavin Newsom touted it
as a way to kind of reach across the aisle
and to have the elevated levels of discussion and debate
that have been missing in other parts of politics these days.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I listened to it when it came out.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I was on vacation that week, I remember, but I
was impressed by both Charlie Kirk and Gavenusom, who clearly
do not like each other personally, but they were able
to hold the conversation about politics and culture and and
and policy, et cetera. There was a point actually where
Gavin Newsom referred to that event at USC back in March,
(09:40):
because I guess Gavin Newsom's niece attends USC. And then
Gavin Newsom blew Charlie Kirk away by saying, my son
follows you.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
She said, you never know, these kids are going to
the right.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I'm aware, she said, this crowd's crazy he said. She
said she had and the only reason she said she
would have said it perhaps otherwise, but she knew you
were coming on the worst part though, Charlie no bes
true story. Literally last night, trying to put my son
to bed, He's like, no, Dad, I just what time.
What time's Charlie going to be here?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
What time?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And I'm like, dude, you're in school. Tomorrow's thirteen. He's like, no, no, no,
this morning wakes up at six up. Then he's like
I'm coming. I'm like he literally would not leave the house.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Did you let him take off school?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He did, of course not.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
He's not here for a good reason. But the point
is the canceled school for two years. Once. The point
is the okay.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So it was one of those discussion that there was
humorous at times, it was serious at other times.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
But that was back in March again.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That was the first episode of that Gavin Newsom podcast
where he actually spent an hour plus talking with Charlie Kirk.
Republican Assembly Leader James Gallagher is behind this long shot
effort to split California into a couple of states and
now thinks he says Orange County should be added to
the new proposed state, even though it's coastal and most
(10:54):
of the new state would be comprised of inland counties.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He floated the idea a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Listen, I've lived in California almost my entire life, and
it feels like every say, five, six, seven years something
like that, someone comes up with a plan to split
the state up, whether it's in half into thirds vertically,
however they want to do it, but it's not going
to go anywhere. The original plan, by the way that
James Gallagher put out there would keep all of the
(11:20):
coastal counties in one state except Dell nort County way
up in the north, but that he thinks Orange County
would move into that inland state. He said, due to
the overwhelming response, we are adding Orange County to the
new state proposal. Orange would be so severely Gavin mandered
(11:42):
under Prop fifty that they would lose representation to LA. So,
speaking of LA, the city Council has unanimously approved emotion
to move some of the Olympic events from Exposition Park
to the Rose Bowl Aquatic Center in Pasadena. This decision
was made was was made following a request from LA
twenty eight, which is the organizing committee for the Olympics.
(12:04):
They said they wanted to get the venue changed for
the diving events. The venue change, they say, could save
money to the tune of like fifteen to eighteen million
dollars just by taking it out of the Exposition Park
area and putting it in that Rose Bowl Aquatic Center
over in Pasadena. If you drive an EV and you
(12:24):
got one of those arrogant little stickers on the corner,
it's that privilege of driving in the carpool lane quietly
will end at the end of the month. It's been
around for twenty five years, and it allowed electric vehicle
drivers with a required decal access to the carpool lane,
even if you were driving solo, or you and a dog,
(12:45):
or you and not enough other people to qualify. The
administration decided against extending the program. The California Resources Board
website says under section one sixty sixth of Title twenty
three of the US Code, federal legislation was recquid to
authorize an extension, but no such action has been taken.
So the final day to order a decal was August
(13:07):
twenty ninth, and if you did, I guess you get
it in a week or so, and then you drive
in the carpool lane for like three days. The last
day the decal will be valid is September thirtieth. Right now,
there are according to the California Resources Board, there's about
half a million electric vehicles that have those decals, which
(13:29):
would allow them to drive in the carpool lane. And finally,
US officials say that solar powered highway signs could actually
hide batteries and inverters and radios. This advisory from the
Department of Transportations Federal Highway Administration comes as we continue
(13:50):
to try to figure out just how integrated Chinese and
other foreign intelligence systems might be in our basic infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So as you drive down the road, you're.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Driving down a freeway and you see a call box
or a sign that's got one of those solar panels
on it.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's the inverter part, right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It might also have some batteries attached to that to
keep the electricity roll undering the night times, et cetera.
But there's a concern that rogue devices like radios could
be inside those batteries and inverters. The Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security
Agency says this needs to be looked at, and that
(14:33):
we should have scans for the presence of those rogue devices.
That's federal and state level reporting about undocumented cellular radios
that have been found inside inverters and batteries, and that
there should be national level assessments that determine whether or
not they actually pose a risk to all of us.
All right, that's your threatening stories, brought to you by
(14:53):
our friends from Trading Wealth. We're going to get into
some very fun, much less serious, strange science.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Stories when we come back to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Of course, our top story is the continuing aftermath of
the assassination of Charlie Kirk on that university campus in
Utah just yesterday, little more than twenty four hours ago.
Authorities there have delayed a news conference that was about
to take place into the investigation of whoever it was
that shot Charlie Kirk. They said it was because of
(15:32):
rapid developments in the investigation. Fox is also reporting now
that FBI Director Cash Pttel is on his way to Utah.
It would then make perfect sense that they're waiting for
the director of the FBI to be on the ground
in orm Utah before they actually hold whatever news conference
they're about to. They said, these rapid developments in the
(15:53):
investigation came up, they will suspend this. That was the
Utah Department of Public sayfty director of Communications said they
will release an updated time later today. That is, of course,
we're all watching it. We're all waiting to see what
it is that they come up with. Right as the
show started today, the FBI out of Salt Lake City
(16:14):
did release a photo, a couple photos actually, of somebody
wearing a black long sleeve shirt, dark pants, sunglasses, and
a hat, and they said that that was a person
of interest in the shooting. At this point, they didn't
say exactly where or when those images were taken. You
can assume it was going to be somewhere from Utah
Valley University, but we just don't know. They didn't explain
(16:37):
who it was. They just said the person in those
images was considered a person of interest. Well, on Thursdays
at this time, we'd like to get into some of
the you know, the weirdness, the crazy, you know, the
strange science.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Strange sence. It's like weird science strange.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, we're gonna start with a couple of good wellness
stories because everybody needs to feel a little bit better.
There is a chance that exercise can suppress the growth
of certain cancer cells.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
This is good.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
There's an important new study on exercise and cancer, specifically
cancer survivors. This study, published last month, involved thirty two
women who survive breast cancer. After a single session of
interval training or weightlifting, their blood contain higher levels of
certain molecules and that helped put the brakes on lab
(17:37):
grown breast cancer cells. Deputy Director of Exercise Medicine Research
down in Australia said that the experiment adds to the
evidence that they have that exercise can not just upend
the risk of developing, but also surviving cancer, and that
exercise can help some cancer survivors actually avoid recurrence of
(18:00):
their disease. Then, this new study offers an explanation of
how showing that exercise changes the inner workings of our
muscles and our cells. They say more study is obviously
needed in all of this, but it does offer clues
about the specific kinds of exercise that could be most
effective against cancers, against malignancies, and shows us how important.
(18:22):
Just even a single session of exercise can be for
your health.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So what they did was.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
A pretty widely discussed study that was published a couple
of months ago showed a large group of colon cancer
survivors began a supervised exercise program that included frequent walks,
very fast paced walks, and some more intense workouts like that,
and a second group didn't exercise. Three years later, those
(18:51):
who exercised were thirty seven percent less likely to have
experienced a cancer recurrence than those who didn't work out,
and they said the outcome was better than that that
was seen with many of the preventative drugs that people
are prescribed in the event that they're diagnosed with cancer.
The other story comes from one of the blue zones.
You ever heard of a blue zone, it's an area
(19:14):
in the world where people live for a long time
well above average for the rest of the compared to
the rest of the world. And they said it's a
combination of factors physical activity, low stress, social interactions, low
disease incidents, etc. But one of the big factors is
local whole foods. I don't mean whole foods like the
(19:36):
one across the street. I mean the food that you
get is a whole food that you eat as a
regular part of your diet. And they point to a
specific Costa Rican area called the Nakoya Peninsula in one
of the original Blue Zones. As wellness chasing jet setters
are learning more about this place, they are actually flocking
(19:58):
to a resort like the w Costa Rica Reserva Conchal.
It's a five star spin on this whole Blue Zone thing.
They draw these tourists into this thing and try to
give people the longer, healthier lives that they're looking for
at least a week at a time. I mean, if
you're there just for a resort, right. One of the
(20:20):
executive chefs there at the resort said, the Costa Rican
culinary culture has always been natural, honest, health focused. It's
rooted in tradition, food that's preserved, the old fashioned way, etc.
But the average lifespan in that peninsula, the Nakoya Peninsula
is eighty five years old, but a lot of people
(20:41):
live well beyond that, well over one hundred in some cases.
In fact, they said that the share of people over
one hundred is about three and a half times the
global average. They track the diets of people in these
areas and they found the traditional diet they had a
significantly lower risk of death from any cause. And again
the foundation, they said, lies in a very specific and
(21:02):
simple ingredient, whole food ingredient, corn beans and squash. So
much of their diet is made up of just corn
beans and squash, and they said it's a very balanced
mix of the complex carbs, the plant based protein, and
the fiber that's good for all of us and for.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That they live longer.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
They don't need a whole lot of red meat, they
don't have a whole lot of animal fats that complement
the diet. They instead go for things like avocado and
seeds and things like that. So corn beans, squash, avocado, seeds,
that's the way to eat.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's the way to do it. We'll do more strange
signs when we come back.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Shannon's out today, she'll be out tomorrow. She's back on Monday.
She's been helping take care of her mom. Had some
healthish ju surgery went well. We know that, so that's
a good news thing. We'll talk with Shannon coming up
on Monday, a couple stories that we're following. We know
that the Utah Department of Public Safety had scheduled a
(22:12):
news conference for about an hour ago and then quickly
said that they're going to have to postpone it. They
haven't rescheduled or at least given us a specific time
yet when they're going to do this. This, of course,
would be an update on the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
We do know that FBI Director Cash Pattel one of
his deputies, Dan Bongino, they are headed to Utah, So
(22:34):
in the event that there is some sort of major
development in that case, it's very likely that they'd wait
for the director and the deputy director to get to
Utah before they give us an updated time. So we
do know that they described the postponement cause was rapid
development in the case, but we don't know exactly what
it is.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
We will keep.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
An eye on that and if that news conference takes place,
you'll hear it live here on KFI. Judged down in
Arizona has extended a temporary restraining order that blocks the
administration's efforts to remove Guatemalan Honduran children that live in
shelters or foster care after they came into the US alone.
The judge issued this decision. Just today, the administration temporarily
(23:17):
stopped from removing Guatemalan children over the Labor Day weekend.
Lawyers for the kids said that those clients didn't want
to go home, that they were afraid of going home,
and that the government was not following the laws that
are designed to protect migrant children. The Trump administration says
it's trying to reunite these kids with their families back
at home, and that that was at the request of
(23:39):
the Guatemalan government. So another court case, of course, which
seems kind of ubiquitous.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Strange science.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
There's another weird story to tell you about, and I'm
a little bit weirded out by the people who gave
me this story.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Producer Michelle and Kiana.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
A spotted ratfish is a two foot long fish with
a big, old head, long skinny tail. Lives in the
northeastern part of the Pacific Ocean, and it belongs to
a group of fish called chimeras that are pretty closely
related to sharks. Chimeras are sometimes called ghost sharks, and
(24:15):
like most vertebrates, it's got teeth in its mouth. Okay,
that's not crazy, right. Not all fish have teeth, but
this one does. Unlike other vertebrates, it also has teeth
on its forehead. Okay, now, that I guess in and
(24:35):
of itself is not the weird part. The weird part
is the teeth on the forehead are actually used for sex. Okay, again,
I apologize for this. The ratfish's extra teeth line is
in a carteliginous appendage called the tenaculum that in males
can stick up you know what, I'm okay, I won't
(24:57):
even do that again, deployed to grasp a female fish
during mating. Many of the fish have clasping appendages near
their pelvis. This one has it on its forehead. Scientists
have known about this the tenaculum the actual forehead piece
for a while. They just didn't know exactly how the
teeth originated or how they ended up in the weird
(25:18):
location outside of the mouth. Some of the closer relatives,
like sharks and rays and skates, they do have tooth
like structures in the skin made of the same material
as teeth, but they're not actually teeth. I told you
earlier about an octopus and the study of arm movements.
They don't really have a left handed right handed. They're
(25:41):
not dominant one side or the other when it comes
to octopus appendages. But they said that these biomechanical marbles
actually use their front arms and their back arms differently.
They use their front arms to explore, they use their
back arms for locomotion. Each of these arms is capable
(26:02):
of a bunch of different movements, a bunch of different behaviors,
And a study out of the Florida Atlantic University Marine
Science Laboratory actually shows that they believe there is kind
of a language that is spoken one arm movement at
a time by these octopuses that they can use the
there's so many muscles in different ways that they can
(26:24):
use their tentacles tentacles arms that they can actually use
them as a kind of way to speak to each other.
And if you could imagine, researchers examined a couple of
hours of video footage of each of twenty five wild octopuses,
so fifty five zero hours of octopus habits, and then
(26:45):
determine four basic ways that an arm can move based
on the muscles that exist in it. You can bend it,
you can torsion it. You know, twist it, you can
shorten it, and you can lengthen it. And they said,
after looking at all those different behaviors, they were able
to come up with a sort of a octopus dictionary,
if you will. All right again, the big story today
(27:07):
is the FBI leadership is headed to Utah. They were
supposed to hold a news conference at about eleven forty
five hour time for an update on the Charlie Kirk shooting,
and then they postponed it just because they said of
rapid development in the case. One of the things that
Charlie Kirk's stood for was the absolute freedom to express yourself.
(27:31):
It was literally what he was doing when he was
killed yesterday. And I said this multiple times today. I'm
not worried about your political stance or how you felt
about the guy, but you have to admire his desire
to increase the amount of dialogue that exists in the
United States.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
We'll see you tomorrow. People stop talking.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Really bad stuff starts when marriages stopped talking.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Divorce happens when civilizations stopped talking, civil war and suits.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
When you stop a human connection with someone.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to want
to commit violence against that group. What we as a
culture have to get back to is being able to
have a reasonable disagreement where violence is not an option.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
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