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May 14, 2025 31 mins
Newsom calls for walking back free healthcare for eligible undocumented immigrants. Officers are winning massive payouts in ‘LAPD lottery’ lawsuits. Earning less than $100,000 in CA makes you ‘low income’. Early Disney Imagineering maps show the ‘lost lands’ of Disneyland.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, I have the benefit
of knowing both. I didn't even think about that, yea.
And I will say, after a weekend of being driven
up the wall by my mother, I by a lot

(00:22):
of things that we have in common because I am
just like her and it drives me crazy. I am
going to have to push back on that and say
that it is not genetics. My biological mother seems like
a perfectly normal person who is nothing like me and
my mother. But we'll get there when we get there.

(00:45):
Who was it last week who recommended the Love Hotel
on Bravo? It was it was a male and it
was on the talk back and he recommended this and
I thought, oh, that looks like it's right up my alley.
And now I've exhausted all the episodes that are available.
Thank you to whoever you are that recommend it. This
was made up of the Housewives, et cetera. Now at

(01:07):
like a hotel somewhere in like Mexico or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Or compliing to date?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Is that what they're going yeah, bring.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
They bring these strange men in who have no idea
who the housewives are.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
The best part is the housewives are.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Like, we don't want anyone who knows us, We don't
want anyone who knows the show. And then when they
find out the men don't know who they are, it's like,
how dare you not know who I am?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's very funny. It's very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And so we'll be talking about the Love Hotel and
everything else that we are into. And Gary has fallen
out of love with two of his shows last night.
He may be in a mood, it may may stick.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Come on, you, guys, Devin Newsom's not running for president.
Break some coaching, please, I will.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I will make a Pete Rose bet with you that
he is running for president.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
He's gonna run for president. This is Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Now, it's not a guarantee that he gets the nomination,
that he makes it past the primaries, any of that stuff,
but he is going to have a campaign to run.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
One could argue he's already in the midst of his campaigns.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Gavin Newsom wants California to stop enrolling more low income
immigrants illegal immigrants in a state funded healthcare program starting
next year.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
He wants to charge.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Those who are already who are already enrolled a monthly
premium the following year.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
So this is supposed to come out during a budget
presentation today. The governor is going to propose freezing enrollment
of undocumented adults in medical which is our version of Medicaid,
as soon as January. Also wants to charge those who
are in the program, who stay in the program, whopping
one hundred dollars a month beginning in twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I didn't understand that they weren't paying a small premium
per month enough that that's insane. California was among one
of the first states to ex stend free health care
benefits to all adults, regardless of their immigration status last year.
This was a big deal for California Democrat Gavin Newsom.

(03:11):
He lauded this plan. He loved it before he started
running for president. Now that it doesn't test well in
the focus groups in Middle America where Democrats live, he's
changing his tune.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Simple as that now. I think one of the things
that he's going to try to hide. Okay, He's going
to play this both ways, because we've seen him do
this before, most recently with the homelessness issue, where he
now says he wants cities and counties and municipalities to
get rid of homeless encampments, when for years he has
been saying, we need to let people live their lives

(03:47):
however they choose to do. So he's going to be
able to hide behind the budget constraints that the state
of California currently finds itself under and say we just simply,
we just can't afforda.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
We did is Gavin Newsley simply can't afford it. We
need to make sure that we cut back.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
But then he can take that same message so we
can hide behind the budget for his people here in California,
but anywhere outside the state border. He can go to Utah,
he can go to Texas, he can go to Virginia,
and he can say things like.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Listen, we realized it was too much and we just
had to cut back.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Without talking about the incredible budd the billions of dollars
of budget strain that this plan is going to put
on the state.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Anyway, he can have his cake and eat it too,
lots of cakes. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's going to
be interesting to see if he is questioned on the
one eighty timing, because just in March he told reporters
he was not considering this. In March, when faced with
that six point two billion dollar medicaid shortfall, he knew

(04:46):
about it in March, and reporters said, well, what about
this problem that we have. You keep signing people up,
you're not charging people who are in the program. And
he said, no, we're not going to do that. We're
not going to roll that back. And they're like, but
six point two billion in the red. He said no March,
and now he's changing his tune. What changed in a
month and a half.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
He defended that decision repeatedly after he said those comments
in early March.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I would say that he's starting to realize that he
someone is telling him good pivot, Someone is telling him
that playing to the middle loudly, but by making sure
that these types of things get written up in the
you know, New York Times, that this type of message
is going to play well for Middle America.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think that's what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
He's also going to go after President Trump and blame
him for the budgetary problems. He is going to estimate
that the President's tariffs are costing the state sixteen billion
in tax revenues. That it's Trump's fault, and people in
California will eat that up with their oversized spoon that's
made of paper, biodegradable spoon. Right, He's going to put

(05:58):
this squarely at the feet of President Trump and his tariffs.
That way, he's eating his cake. He's not getting any calories. Everything, everything,
the way this story is playing out could be spun
well for Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
The other the historical aspect of this is when ten
years ago, Governor Jerry Brown, who was considered at the
time the most liberal governor in the entire country, he
signed the bill that offered medical coverage to all children
under the age of nineteen, regardless of immigration status. But

(06:38):
he stopped at nineteen because even Jerry Brown realized offering
that kind of coverage to people over the age of
nineteen was going to bankrupt the States, it was going
to destroy whatever could tell you that. But Gavin Newsom
grew the pool to include all income eligible immigrants in California.

(07:01):
Under the expansion that started five years ago, supposedly wrapped
up last year.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's whys governor and that's why he's governor? All right?
I just saw this headline. It's chilling.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
According to a journal Pediatric Journal, one in four US
children has at least one parent with a substance abuse disorder.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
One in four children in this country in four has
at least one parent with Wow. That seems that seems
really high.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
It does.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Are we talking about like nacho cheese.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Doritos being a substance every talking about the processed foods
because I get that, my goodness.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
All right, the LAPD and some officers that have been
winning massive payouts in these lawsuits. We'll explain what's going on.
Also a chance at one thousand bucks coming up.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
The President has expressed measured confidence that the United States
efforts with Iran could work out one way or another.
In earlier comments, he made clear that he expects the
leaders of Iran to end their role as the chief
financial backer of militant groups throughout the throughout the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
The NFL schedule will be out today five pm Our
time is when the full schedule for the two hundred
and seventy two regular season.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Games, and what are you looking forward to think? We
already know who they're playing right.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yes, Oh, earlier this week we found out that the
Eagles would host the Cowboys on the NFL kickoff game
September fourth. We know about the game in Canton with
the Chargers and the Lions, which will be in July.
But all of the non special games he heard about
games for Black Friday, December twentieth, Christmas Day. All the

(08:57):
international games have already been leaked or not leaked but
just released. But the rest five o'clock hour time. Oh,
and also, HBO Max is back. They've decided to change
its name back to HBO Max from just Max. They
dropped the name HBO in twenty twenty three. They've decided
that that's bad.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
They realize that people still call it HBO Max. Yeah.
Angels lost to the Padre six to four yesterday. They'll
play again tonight down in San Diego. Dodgers are crushed
by the A's eleven to one. Same two tonight. By
the way, Clayton Kershaw penciled in for Saturday.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Huh to start? He has not.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
He's not pitched since his left toe. No his left
toe surgery, knee surgery as well.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, you know that most places of work, well you
can file a grievance and maybe get a great payday. Right,
maybe somebody says something wrong to you, you fill out
the paperwork, maybe you don't have to work for a while.
Maybe you have money coming to you because of this.
It's very it's very popular right now. Well in the LAPD,

(10:03):
it's no different. Police Chief Jim McDonald, friend of the show,
said that some officers are weaponizing the department's disciplinary system
to settle grievances, which leads to the massive problem we've
talked about on this show at La City Hall, where
they settle everything instead of going to any sort of
trial because you've got all the costs of lawyers and

(10:25):
things like that that drag on for a long time.
So what they do is they just settle these cases. Well,
word gets out to every city department, every county department.
I guess I should say that the La City and
La County will just settle these things. So file your grievance,
file your paperwork, and get a fat payday. And that
word has spread and it has spread throughout the LAPD
to the tune of even a term of the LAPD lottery.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
LA has paid more than sixty eight million dollars over
five years to resolve lawsuits filed by LAPD officers.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
This is not the number of trip and fall people.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
You tripped over the cracked sidewalk that the city never
material they never fixed in front of your house, or
you're involved in an accident with a city vehicle of
some kind. No, no, this is just within the LAPD officers
who claim to be the victim of sexual harassment, racial discrimination, retaliation,
whatever it is, and there is a this is something

(11:29):
that would never have happened thirty years ago or forty
years ago.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know, you bring up the trip and fallcase because
it's kind of like the everyday person versus the man,
which is the government.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right, So it's like, oh, I'm going to get.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
The city for this, But now it's city workers turning
on the city. Now it's people who used to be
proud to have a city job that are turning on
the city and saying, I'm going to stick it to
the man, my employer essentially.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
The LAPD Private Fundraise ARM gave about a quarter million
dollars to hire an outside consultant to help the department
analyze the results of litigation, see if there's lessons to
be learned from that, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
The other thing is whether or not the allegations are true.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. All you do is
fell out the paperwork.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I heard Gary talking about fat ass is today and
I took that personally.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I write that down.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I feel sexually harassed, I feel discriminated upon my fat ass.
I feel all of these things. Hostile work environment, toxic
work environment.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't feel safe, triggered, my ass doesn't feel safe,
say triggered. I feel triggered, all of these things. I
put that in writing. No, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
That came out way wrong, but I put that in writing.
I send it off to HR. It doesn't matter that
it's not true, or that it's kind of true. You
tell jokes sometimes, but they're not meant. It doesn't matter anymore. No,
they're just settling all this crap, and it's happening everywhere.

(13:08):
It's not just you know, La City. It's happening in
offices everywhere.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
We've seen it here.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, I said this before.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
The only time I have ever served on a jury
was a civil trial against the City of La somebody
was in an accident involving a dump truck that was
working for the city.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And see, there you go again, dump truck.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Wait do you hear that beeping sound? Are you backing up.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
In your defense? But you have a big fat ass too?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Oh thank you wel In that case, they took it
to trial, and my understanding is that there was an
offer made by the city that wasn't very much, but
there was an offer made by the city to keep
the thing from going to trial. Eventually, I was an alternate,
so I didn't have to make a decision on the money.
But the jury decided that this guy, who had suffered

(14:10):
a traumatic brain injury in this accident was going to
get fourteen million dollars for the care that was going
to be required for the rest of his life. The
city was going to offer him a couple million bucks,
but not fourteen million. Which is why they settle these
cases now, because they don't. You can't trust the right
You can trust the jury system, but you can't trust

(14:31):
that they're going to air on your side.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
No, because to your point earlier, everyone's waiting for this,
everyone's sitting on that jury's also waiting for their big
payday in life, so they don't have to do anything anymore.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
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Speaker 1 (15:22):
Coming up next in certain parts of California, if you
earn one hundred thousand dollars, you're low income.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
We already knew this right.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Also, the lost lands of Disneyland ahead as well lands
of Disneyland that were plotted out from the beginning, but
we never saw them.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
What were they? Yes, I'm still backing up Gary and Shannon.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
We'll continue.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
New Work There, New Jersey have highlighted the shortage of
air traffic controllers the aging equipment they use. The administration
wants to replace this. I don't know if want is
even a luxury they can afford. The FAA working on
a short term fix to the problems specifically at New Work,
including technical repairs and cutting flights while dealing with a

(16:14):
shortage of controllers. The US Department of trans Transportation trying
to make progress on the long standing issue of not
having enough air traffic controllers, a topic today on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
A lot of infighting in the Democratic Party, and it's
played out in a new poll that shows that Democrats
are deeply pessimistic about their future. Neither Democrats nor Republicans
viewed favorably by the majority of US adults. Ap Nork
Center for Public Affairs poll finds only about a third
of Democrats say they're very optimistic about their or even

(16:49):
somewhat optimistic about their party's future, and that is down
sharply from July of last year, when they said about
six to ten had a positive outlook comes at a
pretty critical money for the Democrat Party, of course, because
they're looking to figure out who's going to take the
mantle and lead that party into the twenty twenty eight elections.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Got to look inward and do some soul searching there
about what it means to be a Democrat, a successful Democrat.
Right now in this country, the very definition of being
low income is changing. In Orange, Santa Barbara, and San
Diego Counties, the threshold for a low income single person

(17:29):
household will soon surpass one hundred thousand dollars. They would
join three other Bay Area counties that already hit that threshold.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, Marin, San Mateo, San Francisco, and Santa Clara apparently,
of all across that six figure threshold that's between twenty
and twenty five. The threshold to be considered low income
when up forty percent around southern California's counties. Ten counties
were reflecting the cost of living throughout the area. And
this is not just the cost of house which is

(18:00):
obviously gone up, but it's the cost of living in general.
Think about the simple things that everybody wants to or
has to pay for, which is your home, your food,
your transportation. For some people you factor into that. A
fourth pillar of that might be childcare, and every one

(18:23):
of those has gone up in the last several years,
in many cases faster than inflation, which was already booming
in the last few years.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
We know.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
But it's also important to point out that this is
single person households. And the only reason I say that
is because if you are if you are in a
if you're married, if you're in a relationship with somebody
and they also have a job, you at least have

(18:55):
the benefit of putting together a couple of paychecks to
try to make ends me and that can be for
a lot of people a lot easier than trying to
do it on your own. And just the math that
kind of plays out there. But I mean, a retiree
that lives in Santa Anna sam Perez says is pretty
just pretty sad for young people. For couples, even if

(19:17):
you're both working, you can either buy a house or
you have a family, but you.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Can't have both.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
They highlight a guy by the name of Jet Murdoch
in the La Times article here.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
He's twenty six.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
He shares a two bedroom apartment with three other guys
in Huntington, Beach. The split bedrooms helped to keep costs down,
with each roommate paying about seven to twenty five a
month in rent. That's heavy, But he's a computer science
student at Orange Orange Coast College, works at a catering
company to support himself through school, says after graduation, doesn't

(19:49):
plan to stay in Orange County for long. Well, you
can go live in you know, Garden Grove or Anaheim.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Probably.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's the part I don't I don't like about the
stories like like this, Yeah, is that there's not a
lot of there's not a lot of discussion about. Okay,
if you're making one hundred grand a year and you're
living on your own, first of all, you're choosing to
live on your own. Second, what what do your finances
look like? I mean, how are you capable of cutting

(20:18):
back on your Uber eats?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Do you have to drive the brand new car?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I graduated from college and I lived basically in a
halfway house off Eaton Road, you know what I mean.
Like it was not really but it wasn't great. But
I also knew I couldn't live in you know, on
Bay Street in San Francisco, right, Like you have to realize, Yeah,
there's gonna be times in your life where you're poor
and it sucks. You can't live in Huntington Beach, or

(20:45):
you can't live in you know, you know, Mission Beach.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You have to you have to.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Live in places you can still live in California. It's
just not going to be in the prime places.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
There's a there's a certain aspect.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
You're gonna live right off the five in Atomas like
I did, where.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
The only sound is the sound of the five.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Tomas.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Right off the file. You can see my apartment that
I lived in from the five most driven, the very
apartment it faced the freeway there.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
There's just there's no discussion here about personal responsibility when
it comes to this. Yeah, I know, listen, I've bought
houses in California, uh I and a condo, like I know.
Let me rephrase that because it sounds like I own
them currently. I bought a condo when I moved to California,
sold that and bought a house. I know what the

(21:39):
price of housing is in Calra. That's not a that's
not a surprise to me. The surprise is there's uh,
there appears to be. To go back to one of
the terms we used, to use A long time ago
was the DU's gap of you gotta you gotta scrape together.
Unless you're really, really lucky and your family's got money,
or you got people that are willing to pay for you,

(22:00):
or you hit that lottery that we were talking about
in the last segment, you gotta you gotta work towards it.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I didn't buy a house until I was like thirty
five years old, and that was with somebody else. I
wasn't twenty five thinking I could buy a house. I
thought it would be crazy, and that was five hundred
years ago. It's just it's just that's that's the way
California has been trending for quite some time. Yes, you

(22:27):
should be able to live in Santa Monica.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
You should be. It's beautiful, but that's not reality. Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Neither are the lost lands of Disneyland. They've never materialized.
They have your four budroom place on the on the
beach in Santa Monica. Is uh is a lot like
the lands that never saw the light of day.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
You may have heard of some of these lands that
were first designed and created at the very beginning, big
beginning of Disneyland, but never came to.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
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Speaker 4 (23:09):
I heard it the first time when he signed the
executive order to try to lower prescription drug prices.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yes, that's when I'm referring to.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, he did one.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
He said it like once a day since then, he's
refining it.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
And yesterday's was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I mean unless fat Well like you would talk about
me like that in public, so.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Fat I wouldn't say the word so.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right, right, right, Okay, So there is a new.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Also, am I not violating hippo laws by explaining what
medications you're on when you started?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
As well?

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I guess I'm not a member of the healthcare industry,
So it's true.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Again if we know about Jimmy Carter's UTI, what are
these rules anyway?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Can I do this real quick? Just because it interrupted
the commercial that we were doing. Oh, the silver there
is a silver alert. The LAPD has put out a
silver alert activated by the Highway Patrol. Angela Dade last
scene May thirteenth, yesterday, at about ten forty five in
the morning in Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
She is believed to be on foot.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Angela is described as sixty two years old, just five
to three.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You don't get a silver alert for sixty two. It's
like Medicare.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You've got to be sixty five to get a silver
alert to disrupt the whole show and everyone's lives. You
don't get to be sixty two go out for a
walk and get a silver alert that is going off
on everyone's phone.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Well, what's at what's missing here is why they consider.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Her assuming it's a special needs situation dementia, although that's
very early.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Something they don't mention that sixty two too early for
a silver alert.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Light skinned, black woman, sixty two years old, five three,
one hundred and sixty pounds, brown hair, brown eyes, wearing
a blue and white shirt, blue jeans, and white shoes.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Again in the Sherman Oaks area.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
There is a new book coming out. It's called The
Happiest Place on Earth from animation producer Don Hahn and
the theme park designer. They're are theme park historians, and
the book will be released in mid July to coincide
with Disneyland's seventieth anniversary, and they really talk about the
inception of Disneyland. Of course, there's the myth that is

(25:28):
true for the most part that artist and animation art
director Herbrieman was given two days to draw basically Disneyland
so that they could sell it to investors. Hey, you
got forty eight hours draw something up. We're going to
sell it. And it is true, and that piece of work,
that map that he drew, was far the first map

(25:50):
of Disneyland. It's often referred to as the first map.
It was not, in fact the initial Disneyland maps. PLoP
our big ass is right where Disneyland was would have
been going to be right here in Burbank, across from
Walt Disney, right where ABC is, right where we are.
We could have been sitting in Fantasyland right now.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
These two guys, Don Han and Christopher Merritt have basically
become historians of the theme park, and this book being
released a couple months to coincide with the seventieth anniversary
if you can believe that of Disneyland, and they talk
about early fifties work on Disneyland, when Walt Disney was
looking at the idea of putting it right here, to

(26:36):
all of the different advancements of the theme park form,
this has always been a fun history lane. I'm not
a Giant Disney file. I don't go there more than
maybe once a year, but I've always been fascinated with
the things that didn't make it, or those rides that
were there originally that have since gone on, you know,

(26:57):
gone away, because for just the historical purposes of we
don't have a lot of old things in southern California
the way that they would in other parts of the world.
So this is kind of the old thing for me.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yes, I think for many of us, especially if you're
from southern California and you were maybe here to see
it all come to fruition. One of the favorite rejected
concepts was an exhibit in tomorrow Land dedicated to hunting
for uranium.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I'm sorry uranium.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Called Uranium Hunt and it was designed with Southwestern rock work.
It was a kind of outside rock maze, and that
idea was they would hand you gregor geiger counter excuse me,
a geiger counter, and there was going to be real
radioactive uranium embedded in the rock that you would measure

(27:48):
with your Geiger counter, and then in the end they
would give you souvenir uranium to take home.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
What well think.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
About they used to do?

Speaker 4 (28:00):
They used to do horse rides and things like that
which you could never get away a massive corporation like
Disney now would not be able to.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, but a lot flew for a while.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yeah, they talk about this book and this is that
you're going to want to look at it very like
with a magnifying glass, because as these maps get super detailed.
Early on, there are places that Disney and the imagineers
were designing for merchandising, not just the theme park part
of it, the fun rides, the exhibits and things like that,

(28:32):
but to make some scratch off of this and actually
put in the merchandising. They had an opera house in
some of the early designs, and a general store. There
was even a potential a potential recreation of the Tower
Bridge from London. And then each of these different iterations,

(28:52):
and there are a couple of dozen different drawings. Some
of them were made within days of each other and
would just alter slightly. They would just make slight variations
in each of them, like the Jungle Cruise would be
on the left side of the picture, and then in
a couple days later they'd redesign it and they put
the Jungle Cruise on the right side.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Of the picture.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
There were hopes that there would be a TV production
center on Disneyland where they could do TV productions. There
was a map calling for space for otters like otters, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
That'd be great.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Some of the maps also highlight an actual residential street
that they would build with big Victorian homes in it.
There would be a town hall perhaps which there kind
of exists now, towards the front gates at a church
that they were going to include a church on the
footprint of Disneyland. And then some of the lands. There

(29:47):
was one land. I thought that was pretty funny they
were talking about. Obviously, Tomorrowland or the Land of Tomorrow
is kind of the way it's described in some places
in Fantasyland in Frontierland, but they referred to Recreation Land.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, Recreation Land would have had all sorts of things
about it. It would have a ball field and mini
golf course, a bandstand, maybe a circus, a concept that
was actually explored in the actual park after opening, but
soon discarded.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Mother Goose Area.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Continued to pop up in maps but would then disappear.
All very fun to think about. It's kind of like
when I came up with space Wars.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
That's exactly what it was like, you know, all the
different areas.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I feel like everything came to me in like forty
eight hours.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Seventy years from now, someone's going to put a book
together with all of the different characters.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I've been thinking about sketching it out, just a very
rudimentary idea of what Space Wars is going to look like?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Is that way your sketches look like this picture that
you drew for the Conway Show.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Because if that's the sketching that we're talking, I'm not
a sketcher. I mean, I'm just we could hire it.
I'm a visionary.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, we could hire Space mid years.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
It's much well, they can follow orders swamp watch.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I don't know if they're going to be imagining when
we come back to Gary and Shannon my vision.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
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