December 9, 2025 ⢠23 mins
Gary & Shannon kick off the hour with the headline nobody saw coming: 44-year-old grandfather and future Hall of Famer Phillip Rivers is officially back in the NFL with the Colts. Will he actually take the field this weekend? They break down the wild QB storyline — and why he’s now one of only two grandfather QBs in league history.
Then, a warning for anyone with a keyless car: thieves are now cracking the signal and stealing vehicles in minutes. The crew explains how the tech works and why the crime spike is exploding.Breaking developments also emerge in the Celeste Rivas Hernandez case, as new Grand Jury testimony suggests high-level figures in D4vd’s touring operation may have known far more than they admitted.
LA’s own Crosswalk Vigilante, Jonathan Hail, joins the show after being detained for trying to protect pedestrians. And the hour wraps on a lighter note with the four-word trick to the “perfect goodbye.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Philip Rivers has been signed to
the Colts practice squad. He has not played in the
NFL since the COVID season since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He's forty four as of yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
He's going to be a grandfather, and a grandfather's going
to be reunited with Shane Steichen, who was his oc
with the Chargers quarterbacks coach before that. He's worked with
Shane steike In for a number of years and Stiken's
the head coach for the Colts right now. He's got
Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. They've got a great offensive line.
But many if he plays this week, they go to Seattle.
(00:44):
If you haven't watched that Seattle defense, it's that old
school Seattle defense, but it's all upfront, like it is
a formidable front.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That would be elder abuse.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
A lot of people are. That's what they're calling it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
If he gets in there.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hey, Shanning sounded like a little school girl in grammar
school when you found out there's a substitute teacher.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
When you were talking about Philip Rivers. Oh my god, guys,
did you hear this run over there?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know guess what we got substitute? That was pretty funny.
Brought the little girl back out of you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, it's a pretty big deal, sir.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's a guy that's a finalist for the Hall of
Fame who hasn't played in five years, coming out of
retirement to helm what was the Super Bowl favorite Colts
up until a couple of weeks ago. It's a pretty
big deal. Who was the other there's been another quarterback?
(01:38):
You said that was a grandfather. Are your guesses?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, I was trying to think of I'm trying to
think of who played long enough to do that, I
said fran Tarkenton.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I have zero idea.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I think you were just thinking of old. That's because
that's all I remember is Target was old. How old
was he when he played? I want to say he
was in his forties.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't even think he was that. I just so
he wasn't or we just think he was old.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I just think he was old because I remember him
from That's Incredible on the TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And I don't remember how old he would have been.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, he's eighty five. Now, okay, well he's a grandpa.
Now I know that I can rest assured on that.
Let's see when did he play?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He played, and he played till nineteen seventy eight. Okay,
so he was thirty eight when he retired. Okay, so
it was are you ready? Do you want another guest?
The only other guest I had was Steve Young because
of his because he's Mormon. Yeah, and you just figure
I just figure Brett Farv really because remember Brett Farv
(02:34):
was one of the first to play into his later years.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's right in the modern era.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, okay, I think he was a grandfather while getting
in trouble for maybe being the first to text is
junk to somebody. I think that all happened within the
same season.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Nobody wants to see Grandpa's junk car.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Thieves are using tablets and antennas to steal keyless vehicles
has gone on a couple of Anaheim Hills homes. Group
of massed individuals gained access into two vehicles sitting in
the driveways of two separate homes there in Anaheim Hills,
and both of them they used electronic tools to target
and steal these high end cars, most of them again
(03:14):
without keys.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
These pushed to start vehicles.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
The types of thefts the target newer vehicles like a
Dodge Challenger, one of those big Ford F one to
fifty Raptors, vehicles that have a supercharge feature that functions
forces more air into the engine that can generate more power,
they said. Through home surveillance footage reviewed by the police,
(03:38):
the burglars broke the back window of a truck dumped
into the car through the window. The massed individuals then
hooked up a tablet to the car's computer system to
hack into the car. They reprogram it, they hit the
start button and boom, drive away. Parking in the garage
is a reliable way to do this. I don't know
(03:58):
how many people actually still do that. I'm sorry, Roger's
have become everybody's sort of a de facto storage unit
instead of an actual place to.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Park a car.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You know, I'm I'm not surprised the technology is catching
up with what I always say every time we've got
a chase, Why are you jacking? You know, a Camri
or a Hyundai, all good cars.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But I would lie.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I would jack a Challenger or a Raptor if I
was to lead police on a chase, I'd want something
with a supercharger.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So a Camra if you're looking ten years down the road, yeah,
I want to make sure that I keep my costs low.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Do I have an eighteen year old daughter at home?
I'm looking Camray right. But for myself, if I'm going
to lead police on a chase into Orange County, I'm
gonna select a charger or a Raptor. So I'm glad
that the technology on how to jack these things is
caught up to my aspirations.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But it's terrifying because you think that if you have
one of these cars that you're immune to that sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The key list cars, right.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well, one of the things that I didn't realize. They
said many of these newer ones have these remote keyless
entry systems. The keyfob can emit the signal that unlocks
the car door is that's been round forever. In some cases,
you can start your car if it's within a certain
distance of the vehicle with this key fob. The problem
is there's a signal that's constantly being emitted from the
(05:25):
key fob, similar to what you would find in a
debit card. Like an RFID and to exploit that signal,
all the thieves have to do is get close enough
to the house with an antenna, hoping they can catch
that signal and then amplify it, unlock the vehicle. Boom,
Bob's your uncle car is gone. The theft method, they said,
less than sixty seconds to execute. It's only effective when
(05:48):
the key fob is in close proximity to the car,
which a lot of people will come in and they'll
dump their keys near the front door somewhere, whether it's
a little tray or on the end table or whatever
it is. That a lot of times that's close enough
to the car for them to get the signal. But
(06:08):
they said, make sure one of the easiest things to
do keep your keyfob near the center of the home.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
It's harder to pick up.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You could put it in a blocking bag or a box,
a bag or box made out of conductive metal mesh.
They call those a Faraday cage if you want to
go high tech that way.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, some potentially bombshell conversations are being heard overheard in
the hallways outside of the grand jury. It's hearing secret
testimony about this David case. We talked about it on
Friday about how why hasn't anything been done on this?
What is going on? There's a dead fourteen year old
who turns up in a tesla in the Hollywood Hills
(06:49):
in September, and we still don't have any answers.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
What's going on this Los Angeles. This isn't the Keystone Cops.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So then we heard that there was a grand jury
that been impaneled and that Deputy DA Beth Silverman is
running the show for the DA's office their best. So
now we're hearing about what's being talked in the hallway
today and it may shed light on who they think
did this and that people knew that this girl was
(07:19):
dead at least that's what the questions that people can
hear in the hallway are pointing to.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We'll talk about it when we come back. You're listening
to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I actually when I walked into this studio this morning,
I was like, it's not as arctic as it usual.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well, that's because you're you're healthy now and you're going
pump and iron.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You've been doing your pushups, and.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
My body temperature is back to normal, Hey, Gary, that's
awesome raw form. I'm gonna use that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm gonna tell me why, Hey, wifey, I'll give stairs
in my wrow form in case your just did wink.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Wek yeah, And then she doesn't come upstairs. That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I can't wait to hear how that goes.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I'll be in form. Do you want a lot of
all this? Oh taste of this?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm I'm right there with him in the sexy talk basket.
That's not going anywhere raw for hey. All right, so
here's the deal. Okay, we followed this case many many times.
This is the death of Celeste Reevas. This was a
young girl who had run away from the Inland Empire,
(08:32):
had hooked up with David, the up and coming rapper
singer and the president of David's touring company. Is apparently
the latest who have been questioned by questioned in front
of a grand jury. So the grand jury testimony is secret,
(08:53):
and this is an avenue that the DA's office can take.
They can go the avenue of the preliminary hearing to
see if there's evidence to hold someone for trial or
grand jury testimony, which is.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Done in secret.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Now this is a case where everybody around David has
lawyered up from go. They haven't been able to do
a lot of investigation for this very reason because of
all the layers involved. So they've got everybody before a
grand jury. Now it's all done in secret. And Deputy
DA Beth Silverman, we've spoken to our numerous times on
this show before, the best of the best in the
(09:27):
DA's office, she is on this one. She is known
for handling the high profile, the complex cases, the harder ones,
and she's doing what she does, it seems by this
report out today. Robert Morgan Roth is his name. This
president of the touring company. He's the GM of Mogul
(09:50):
Vision and this is David's record label, and he's also
president of the travel company, David's tour company. Seems like
he's double dipping and making money off the business. Good
for him. He testified all day yesterday before the la
grand jury and at one point with a bunch of
people in the hallway. Remember everything behind closed doors, secret.
(10:13):
But he comes out into the hallway and he's yappin'
and he's yapping to his lawyer loud enough so other
people could hear him.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
What lawyer would allow him to do.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This, He says to his lawyer in the hallway, she
was very pushy on why I didn't call police?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Talking about Beth Silverman.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Now, just knowing that alone, it raises the question why
would he call police? Something came out in that grand
jury testimony where the GM of the record label knew
there was a dead girl, yeah, and didn't call the police,
(10:57):
for her to ask why didn't you call the police.
So we were gonna get to the bottom of this.
We're gonna get to the bottom of this with this
grand jury because already behind closed doors, somebody in David's
inner circle knew they had a dead girl on their hands,
and why didn't you call the police?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I just got to figure out and pinpoint who that
is now the that well and talk about the lawyer
in this if this guy's lawyer. I don't know how
quickly he was saying this. I don't know the full
context of it because we weren't in that hallway, but
the lawyers just got to go, hey, shut well, reporters
(11:37):
are pretty good, trust me.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hallway stuff like this is one of the gold mine.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Cabby spent a lot of times in those especially awful hallways.
They're really institutionalized hallways.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't know, they don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, you're just some homeless girl. That's how I
would dress Midfield me too, I'd look like a girl.
But it was funny because on Friday we talked about
it was he was the most googled artist in twenty
twenty five, David, and there were two schools of thought,
and both existed in the other room. There was Richie,
who googled him because he had never heard of him,
(12:17):
and then there was Elmer, who liked to pride himself
on really liking this up and coming artist.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
David.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Sure, yes you did, Yes, you did before the dead
girl turned up in the trunk.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You liked him? I do.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And Elmer also let us know that in one of
David's videos he's literally dragging a body into a trunk
and also has the single homicidal romance.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Is that that sounds right?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah? Yeah, So you know it kind of let us
down the road of basic instinct of why would I
kill someone the way that I wrote to kill someone
in the book Nick.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, or OJ if I did it?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Or o j if I did it?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Ugh, this is just this is just awful, but.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The answers are coming out, which is the goal of
the grand jury.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So and obviously this doesn't for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's just not going to move as quickly as they
want it to or as we might expect. I mean,
it's hard to believe that a girl's body shows up
in this guy's car and it takes as long as
it does to kind of connect him to it, because
you know, but yeah, yeah, so it looks like this
is taking place and that something is moving yes to
(13:32):
this case.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Good.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
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Speaker 3 (14:00):
You going to put that thing on now.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, because if you put a hat on and you
keep your head warm, it worms up the rest of
your body.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I think your ears are the things you need to worry.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, So let's see. Yeah, I brought this in case
it got cold last night. We're talking about got cold
at the stadium. I know it was seventy seventy eight degrees,
but you don't know when the sun goes down.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
How does it look. You know, it could use some work.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I don't know about those headphones over the top of it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You gotta stay you gotta stay warm in this cold studio.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, you do not want to be caught in the
raw form.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Big news coming out. It kind of transcends sports. Philip
Rivers coming out of retirement to join the depleted Indianapolis
Colts after the Colts lost Daniel Jones for the season.
In contention, by the way, the Colts at eight and
five fighting for a playoff spot. Here now it was
(14:57):
they were a favorite before they lost a handful of games.
But Philip Rivers officially back in the NFL forty four
years old, is what he turned yesterday.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
When we come back. A friend of the show gets
popped once again for doing something that well, it seems
like it should not be.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Illegal for the children.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
It is for the children, doing for the children things
He gets popped by the lapd.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We'll talk with him when we come back. That's it's
just can eat all the victory. He just can eat
all the wins, more wins. I'm hungry. It's what the
chiefs aren't ouch hungry.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You're going to get the boss down here.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I know how to say goodbye? This is you very
good at this. You don't say goodbye. You've just the
irish thing. You up and out. Yeah, all of a sudden,
I go, hey, I where did she go? Yeah, just
leave the perfect forward trick to say goodbye. We'll tell
you about that, especially in the context of all your
holiday parties coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
For President Trump is gonna talk about affordability big rally
tonight in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Good because the last that came out of that administration
I think we talked about it last week, was that
it was a hoax. The affordability crisis is a hoax,
and anybody who buys anything knows that that's just not
the case. The prices have been elevated for quite some time.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm curious if this is going to be a consistent
blame rally. I mean, he's said for a long time,
Joe Biden is responsible for the highest inflation in years,
and he took over a faltering economy and then imposed
tariffs which has caused some more strain on the economy.
(16:48):
His chief of staff, by the way, Susie Wiles, says
she wants him back out there like it's twenty twenty
four again. She wants him back out there doing the
same messages that he did during the campaign. Because obviously
the midterms coming up in less than a year, but
we've already seen some of the polls showing some confidence
in his economic leadership has faltered. So what's one of
(17:10):
the reasons why he's going to be in Pennsylvania today
Mount Poconos, specifically Poconos.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Saying goodbye can be very tough. That's why we've decided
to do it here.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What well, I'm just what I mean, is you to
fire me before the holidays? I rot to talk about
when people say.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Goodbye, I would have at least done my hair.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Time magazine have a name for ending an interaction, the
leave taking behavior. How would you describe your leave taking behavior?
I just leave.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't say goodbye to anyone usually ever I just go.
I've noticed, because if you're gonna say goodbye, you got
to do all the goodbyes. It gets a little laborious. Yeah, repetitive,
too much? And did people really care that you're leaving?
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yes, people care that you're leaving.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
When have you noticed me doing this? Okay, I'll say this.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I've picked up some physical cues about when you're ready
to go. Okay, some of them are super obvious and listen.
Most of the context, I would say has been business.
It's been company related as opposed to just a social event.
(18:37):
But the company related things, you make no bones about it.
You didn't want to be there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What like what like a meeting?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
That's exactly what I mean different.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nobody wants to be in a meeting.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
We did an event one time at Delilah. Do you
remember that.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I remember the event. I don't remember the leaving.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Well, it was you tried to go out the side
door that they didn't let you go out.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh remember that? And you're like, oh, I'll just go
back to out through the kitchen. That's not ideal.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Kitchen. I recently left an event where I left you
and I went out a side door. Yeah, because I
saw you going out the main way and there were
a lot of obstacles I e people to say goodbye
to and I saw your path and I thought, that's
not my path, that is not the path for me.
(19:33):
So I did go out the side door in that
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So something could have happened to me and you would
not have and I've been able to help.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Does it make it better that I did feel bad
about not joining you on the path? No?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh, well, how do you say goodbye?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
What should I do?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The most important thing, according to Amy Arius, senior lecturer
of Communication studies, that you and University of a arena
don't over explain, don't don't use a bunch of overqualifiers,
don't hedge, don't say.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It looks like it's about time to go or probably
should be getting going.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The dog's probably looking for dinner right about now. Nobody cares.
Gotta let the dogs out. I hear that all the
time from dog.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I gotta take the dogs out, Gotta take the dogs
for a walk.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Gotta do the dog. I get it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It's like you can't use your kids for that. And
also we've aged out of having young kids at home.
But like it used to be kids, Oh, we got
to get home the sitter. We got to get home
for the citter. We gotta get home. And now it's
dogs and it's like got to take the dog's frog.
It's like, okay, I get it, you're leaving.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't care. You gotta take the dog for a walk.
That's it. Just go, don't over explain. Everybody knows. There's
a limit.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Everybody knows, especially like if you're if you're hosting friends
of for uh.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Or during the week. Yeah, and everybody's got to go
to work the next day. You know, there's a time
it gets past eight o'clock. You could go at any time.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Now, if the conversation is flowing and you don't have
a problem, you're not yawning or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Stay as long as you want.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
That's but if somebody decides after a certain time that
they're going to pick up and go, you don't have
to ask why, right, it's obvious why, So don't over explain.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's the first part. The second part, express gratitude, thank
you so much for having me. Okay, that's a little
wordy Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I usually say that, I'll say that I'll say thank
you so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
But and I mean it, they said, So, this usually
means a couple of words amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Party, that's a lie, amazing, is so overused, had a
blast a blast overused?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Such fun?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
But something like that, that is an expression of gratitude.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
This was great.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
How about just saying something that's honest? This was great,
This was super cool. I loved this. I'm leaving like anything. Again,
I don't think can't.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You don't have to can it? You have to put
it in the can?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So they said that again, amy Arius. Again, this communications
professor says, as you're saying goodbye, keep it short and sweet.
Two words for each, two words to announce that you're leaving,
not why, just that you're and then two words to
express gratitude.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Do you understand what we're talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
We are so socially altered that we don't even know
how to say bye goodbye. We need a freaking owner's
manual with canned responses for good.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Night, everybody, Like, what the hell is wrong with us?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What did COVID break in our brains where we cannot
handle a simple hello or a goodbye? Like we can't
figure out how to say.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Hello in the elevator on our way up here.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And we can't leave a party without just saying thank
you goodbye.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Perfect for words right there.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
They have to write articles about how to say goodbye.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Now, she says, keep your nonverbal behavior in mind as well,
like smile obviously because you're happy for us, nod your head.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You're nonvert.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Now that we're talking about behaviors, I'd like to get
into your nonverbal behaviors.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
My favorite is though, she says, maybe put your hands
in the air to indicate there's.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Nothing you can do slipping out lovely gathering.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's silly if you saw it, that's like, that's like
Brian Barry, I don't no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I gotta go look at the time.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You can always hear us live on KFI AM six
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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on the iHeartRadio app. Philip Rivers has been signed to
the Colts practice squad. He has not played in the
NFL since the COVID season since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He's forty four as of yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
He's going to be a grandfather, and a grandfather's going
to be reunited with Shane Steichen, who was his oc
with the Chargers quarterbacks coach before that. He's worked with
Shane steike In for a number of years and Stiken's
the head coach for the Colts right now. He's got
Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. They've got a great offensive line.
But many if he plays this week, they go to Seattle.
(00:44):
If you haven't watched that Seattle defense, it's that old
school Seattle defense, but it's all upfront, like it is
a formidable front.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That would be elder abuse.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
A lot of people are. That's what they're calling it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
If he gets in there.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hey, Shanning sounded like a little school girl in grammar
school when you found out there's a substitute teacher.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
When you were talking about Philip Rivers. Oh my god, guys,
did you hear this run over there?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You know guess what we got substitute? That was pretty funny.
Brought the little girl back out of you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, it's a pretty big deal, sir.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's a guy that's a finalist for the Hall of
Fame who hasn't played in five years, coming out of
retirement to helm what was the Super Bowl favorite Colts
up until a couple of weeks ago. It's a pretty
big deal. Who was the other there's been another quarterback?
(01:38):
You said that was a grandfather. Are your guesses?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, I was trying to think of I'm trying to
think of who played long enough to do that, I
said fran Tarkenton.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I have zero idea.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I think you were just thinking of old. That's because
that's all I remember is Target was old. How old
was he when he played? I want to say he
was in his forties.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't even think he was that. I just so
he wasn't or we just think he was old.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I just think he was old because I remember him
from That's Incredible on the TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And I don't remember how old he would have been.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, he's eighty five. Now, okay, well he's a grandpa.
Now I know that I can rest assured on that.
Let's see when did he play?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He played, and he played till nineteen seventy eight. Okay,
so he was thirty eight when he retired. Okay, so
it was are you ready? Do you want another guest?
The only other guest I had was Steve Young because
of his because he's Mormon. Yeah, and you just figure
I just figure Brett Farv really because remember Brett Farv
(02:34):
was one of the first to play into his later years.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's right in the modern era.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, okay, I think he was a grandfather while getting
in trouble for maybe being the first to text is
junk to somebody. I think that all happened within the
same season.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Nobody wants to see Grandpa's junk car.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Thieves are using tablets and antennas to steal keyless vehicles
has gone on a couple of Anaheim Hills homes. Group
of massed individuals gained access into two vehicles sitting in
the driveways of two separate homes there in Anaheim Hills,
and both of them they used electronic tools to target
and steal these high end cars, most of them again
(03:14):
without keys.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
These pushed to start vehicles.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
The types of thefts the target newer vehicles like a
Dodge Challenger, one of those big Ford F one to
fifty Raptors, vehicles that have a supercharge feature that functions
forces more air into the engine that can generate more power,
they said. Through home surveillance footage reviewed by the police,
(03:38):
the burglars broke the back window of a truck dumped
into the car through the window. The massed individuals then
hooked up a tablet to the car's computer system to
hack into the car. They reprogram it, they hit the
start button and boom, drive away. Parking in the garage
is a reliable way to do this. I don't know
(03:58):
how many people actually still do that. I'm sorry, Roger's
have become everybody's sort of a de facto storage unit
instead of an actual place to.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Park a car.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You know, I'm I'm not surprised the technology is catching
up with what I always say every time we've got
a chase, Why are you jacking? You know, a Camri
or a Hyundai, all good cars.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But I would lie.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I would jack a Challenger or a Raptor if I
was to lead police on a chase, I'd want something
with a supercharger.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So a Camra if you're looking ten years down the road, yeah,
I want to make sure that I keep my costs low.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Do I have an eighteen year old daughter at home?
I'm looking Camray right. But for myself, if I'm going
to lead police on a chase into Orange County, I'm
gonna select a charger or a Raptor. So I'm glad
that the technology on how to jack these things is
caught up to my aspirations.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But it's terrifying because you think that if you have
one of these cars that you're immune to that sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The key list cars, right.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well, one of the things that I didn't realize. They
said many of these newer ones have these remote keyless
entry systems. The keyfob can emit the signal that unlocks
the car door is that's been round forever. In some cases,
you can start your car if it's within a certain
distance of the vehicle with this key fob. The problem
is there's a signal that's constantly being emitted from the
(05:25):
key fob, similar to what you would find in a
debit card. Like an RFID and to exploit that signal,
all the thieves have to do is get close enough
to the house with an antenna, hoping they can catch
that signal and then amplify it, unlock the vehicle. Boom,
Bob's your uncle car is gone. The theft method, they said,
less than sixty seconds to execute. It's only effective when
(05:48):
the key fob is in close proximity to the car,
which a lot of people will come in and they'll
dump their keys near the front door somewhere, whether it's
a little tray or on the end table or whatever
it is. That a lot of times that's close enough
to the car for them to get the signal. But
(06:08):
they said, make sure one of the easiest things to
do keep your keyfob near the center of the home.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
It's harder to pick up.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You could put it in a blocking bag or a box,
a bag or box made out of conductive metal mesh.
They call those a Faraday cage if you want to
go high tech that way.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, some potentially bombshell conversations are being heard overheard in
the hallways outside of the grand jury. It's hearing secret
testimony about this David case. We talked about it on
Friday about how why hasn't anything been done on this?
What is going on? There's a dead fourteen year old
who turns up in a tesla in the Hollywood Hills
(06:49):
in September, and we still don't have any answers.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
What's going on this Los Angeles. This isn't the Keystone Cops.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So then we heard that there was a grand jury
that been impaneled and that Deputy DA Beth Silverman is
running the show for the DA's office their best. So
now we're hearing about what's being talked in the hallway
today and it may shed light on who they think
did this and that people knew that this girl was
(07:19):
dead at least that's what the questions that people can
hear in the hallway are pointing to.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We'll talk about it when we come back. You're listening
to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I actually when I walked into this studio this morning,
I was like, it's not as arctic as it usual.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well, that's because you're you're healthy now and you're going
pump and iron.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You've been doing your pushups, and.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
My body temperature is back to normal, Hey, Gary, that's
awesome raw form. I'm gonna use that.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I'm gonna tell me why, Hey, wifey, I'll give stairs
in my wrow form in case your just did wink.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Wek yeah, And then she doesn't come upstairs. That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I can't wait to hear how that goes.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I'll be in form. Do you want a lot of
all this? Oh taste of this?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm I'm right there with him in the sexy talk basket.
That's not going anywhere raw for hey. All right, so
here's the deal. Okay, we followed this case many many times.
This is the death of Celeste Reevas. This was a
young girl who had run away from the Inland Empire,
(08:32):
had hooked up with David, the up and coming rapper
singer and the president of David's touring company. Is apparently
the latest who have been questioned by questioned in front
of a grand jury. So the grand jury testimony is secret,
(08:53):
and this is an avenue that the DA's office can take.
They can go the avenue of the preliminary hearing to
see if there's evidence to hold someone for trial or
grand jury testimony, which is.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Done in secret.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Now this is a case where everybody around David has
lawyered up from go. They haven't been able to do
a lot of investigation for this very reason because of
all the layers involved. So they've got everybody before a
grand jury. Now it's all done in secret. And Deputy
DA Beth Silverman, we've spoken to our numerous times on
this show before, the best of the best in the
(09:27):
DA's office, she is on this one. She is known
for handling the high profile, the complex cases, the harder ones,
and she's doing what she does, it seems by this
report out today. Robert Morgan Roth is his name. This
president of the touring company. He's the GM of Mogul
(09:50):
Vision and this is David's record label, and he's also
president of the travel company, David's tour company. Seems like
he's double dipping and making money off the business. Good
for him. He testified all day yesterday before the la
grand jury and at one point with a bunch of
people in the hallway. Remember everything behind closed doors, secret.
(10:13):
But he comes out into the hallway and he's yappin'
and he's yapping to his lawyer loud enough so other
people could hear him.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
What lawyer would allow him to do.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This, He says to his lawyer in the hallway, she
was very pushy on why I didn't call police?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Talking about Beth Silverman.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Now, just knowing that alone, it raises the question why
would he call police? Something came out in that grand
jury testimony where the GM of the record label knew
there was a dead girl, yeah, and didn't call the police,
(10:57):
for her to ask why didn't you call the police.
So we were gonna get to the bottom of this.
We're gonna get to the bottom of this with this
grand jury because already behind closed doors, somebody in David's
inner circle knew they had a dead girl on their hands,
and why didn't you call the police?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I just got to figure out and pinpoint who that
is now the that well and talk about the lawyer
in this if this guy's lawyer. I don't know how
quickly he was saying this. I don't know the full
context of it because we weren't in that hallway, but
the lawyers just got to go, hey, shut well, reporters
(11:37):
are pretty good, trust me.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hallway stuff like this is one of the gold mine.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Cabby spent a lot of times in those especially awful hallways.
They're really institutionalized hallways.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't know, they don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, you're just some homeless girl. That's how I
would dress Midfield me too, I'd look like a girl.
But it was funny because on Friday we talked about
it was he was the most googled artist in twenty
twenty five, David, and there were two schools of thought,
and both existed in the other room. There was Richie,
who googled him because he had never heard of him,
(12:17):
and then there was Elmer, who liked to pride himself
on really liking this up and coming artist.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
David.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Sure, yes you did, Yes, you did before the dead
girl turned up in the trunk.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You liked him? I do.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And Elmer also let us know that in one of
David's videos he's literally dragging a body into a trunk
and also has the single homicidal romance.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Is that that sounds right?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah? Yeah, So you know it kind of let us
down the road of basic instinct of why would I
kill someone the way that I wrote to kill someone
in the book Nick.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, or OJ if I did it?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Or o j if I did it?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Ugh, this is just this is just awful, but.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The answers are coming out, which is the goal of
the grand jury.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So and obviously this doesn't for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's just not going to move as quickly as they
want it to or as we might expect. I mean,
it's hard to believe that a girl's body shows up
in this guy's car and it takes as long as
it does to kind of connect him to it, because
you know, but yeah, yeah, so it looks like this
is taking place and that something is moving yes to
(13:32):
this case.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Good.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Hey, you miss any part of our show, well, first
of all, shame on you, but we understand life gets
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(13:54):
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that cannot air for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You going to put that thing on now.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, because if you put a hat on and you
keep your head warm, it worms up the rest of
your body.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I think your ears are the things you need to worry.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, So let's see. Yeah, I brought this in case
it got cold last night. We're talking about got cold
at the stadium. I know it was seventy seventy eight degrees,
but you don't know when the sun goes down.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
How does it look. You know, it could use some work.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I don't know about those headphones over the top of it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You gotta stay you gotta stay warm in this cold studio.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, you do not want to be caught in the
raw form.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Big news coming out. It kind of transcends sports. Philip
Rivers coming out of retirement to join the depleted Indianapolis
Colts after the Colts lost Daniel Jones for the season.
In contention, by the way, the Colts at eight and
five fighting for a playoff spot. Here now it was
(14:57):
they were a favorite before they lost a handful of games.
But Philip Rivers officially back in the NFL forty four
years old, is what he turned yesterday.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
When we come back. A friend of the show gets
popped once again for doing something that well, it seems
like it should not be.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Illegal for the children.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
It is for the children, doing for the children things
He gets popped by the lapd.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We'll talk with him when we come back. That's it's
just can eat all the victory. He just can eat
all the wins, more wins. I'm hungry. It's what the
chiefs aren't ouch hungry.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You're going to get the boss down here.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I know how to say goodbye? This is you very
good at this. You don't say goodbye. You've just the
irish thing. You up and out. Yeah, all of a sudden,
I go, hey, I where did she go? Yeah, just
leave the perfect forward trick to say goodbye. We'll tell
you about that, especially in the context of all your
holiday parties coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
For President Trump is gonna talk about affordability big rally
tonight in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Good because the last that came out of that administration
I think we talked about it last week, was that
it was a hoax. The affordability crisis is a hoax,
and anybody who buys anything knows that that's just not
the case. The prices have been elevated for quite some time.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm curious if this is going to be a consistent
blame rally. I mean, he's said for a long time,
Joe Biden is responsible for the highest inflation in years,
and he took over a faltering economy and then imposed
tariffs which has caused some more strain on the economy.
(16:48):
His chief of staff, by the way, Susie Wiles, says
she wants him back out there like it's twenty twenty
four again. She wants him back out there doing the
same messages that he did during the campaign. Because obviously
the midterms coming up in less than a year, but
we've already seen some of the polls showing some confidence
in his economic leadership has faltered. So what's one of
(17:10):
the reasons why he's going to be in Pennsylvania today
Mount Poconos, specifically Poconos.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Saying goodbye can be very tough. That's why we've decided
to do it here.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What well, I'm just what I mean, is you to
fire me before the holidays? I rot to talk about
when people say.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Goodbye, I would have at least done my hair.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Time magazine have a name for ending an interaction, the
leave taking behavior. How would you describe your leave taking behavior?
I just leave.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't say goodbye to anyone usually ever I just go.
I've noticed, because if you're gonna say goodbye, you got
to do all the goodbyes. It gets a little laborious. Yeah, repetitive,
too much? And did people really care that you're leaving?
Probably not?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yes, people care that you're leaving.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
When have you noticed me doing this? Okay, I'll say this.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I've picked up some physical cues about when you're ready
to go. Okay, some of them are super obvious and listen.
Most of the context, I would say has been business.
It's been company related as opposed to just a social event.
(18:37):
But the company related things, you make no bones about it.
You didn't want to be there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What like what like a meeting?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
That's exactly what I mean different.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nobody wants to be in a meeting.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
We did an event one time at Delilah. Do you
remember that.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I remember the event. I don't remember the leaving.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Well, it was you tried to go out the side
door that they didn't let you go out.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh remember that? And you're like, oh, I'll just go
back to out through the kitchen. That's not ideal.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Kitchen. I recently left an event where I left you
and I went out a side door. Yeah, because I
saw you going out the main way and there were
a lot of obstacles I e people to say goodbye
to and I saw your path and I thought, that's
not my path, that is not the path for me.
(19:33):
So I did go out the side door in that
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So something could have happened to me and you would
not have and I've been able to help.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Does it make it better that I did feel bad
about not joining you on the path? No?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh, well, how do you say goodbye?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
What should I do?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
The most important thing, according to Amy Arius, senior lecturer
of Communication studies, that you and University of a arena
don't over explain, don't don't use a bunch of overqualifiers,
don't hedge, don't say.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
It looks like it's about time to go or probably
should be getting going.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The dog's probably looking for dinner right about now. Nobody cares.
Gotta let the dogs out. I hear that all the
time from dog.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I gotta take the dogs out, Gotta take the dogs
for a walk.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Gotta do the dog. I get it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It's like you can't use your kids for that. And
also we've aged out of having young kids at home.
But like it used to be kids, Oh, we got
to get home the sitter. We got to get home
for the citter. We gotta get home. And now it's
dogs and it's like got to take the dog's frog.
It's like, okay, I get it, you're leaving.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't care. You gotta take the dog for a walk.
That's it. Just go, don't over explain. Everybody knows. There's
a limit.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Everybody knows, especially like if you're if you're hosting friends
of for uh.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Or during the week. Yeah, and everybody's got to go
to work the next day. You know, there's a time
it gets past eight o'clock. You could go at any time.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Now, if the conversation is flowing and you don't have
a problem, you're not yawning or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Stay as long as you want.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
That's but if somebody decides after a certain time that
they're going to pick up and go, you don't have
to ask why, right, it's obvious why, So don't over explain.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's the first part. The second part, express gratitude, thank
you so much for having me. Okay, that's a little
wordy Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I usually say that, I'll say that I'll say thank
you so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
But and I mean it, they said, So, this usually
means a couple of words amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Party, that's a lie, amazing, is so overused, had a
blast a blast overused?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Such fun?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
But something like that, that is an expression of gratitude.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
This was great.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
How about just saying something that's honest? This was great,
This was super cool. I loved this. I'm leaving like anything. Again,
I don't think can't.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You don't have to can it? You have to put
it in the can?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So they said that again, amy Arius. Again, this communications
professor says, as you're saying goodbye, keep it short and sweet.
Two words for each, two words to announce that you're leaving,
not why, just that you're and then two words to
express gratitude.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Do you understand what we're talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
We are so socially altered that we don't even know
how to say bye goodbye. We need a freaking owner's
manual with canned responses for good.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Night, everybody, Like, what the hell is wrong with us?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What did COVID break in our brains where we cannot
handle a simple hello or a goodbye? Like we can't
figure out how to say.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Hello in the elevator on our way up here.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And we can't leave a party without just saying thank
you goodbye.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Perfect for words right there.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
They have to write articles about how to say goodbye.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Now, she says, keep your nonverbal behavior in mind as well,
like smile obviously because you're happy for us, nod your head.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You're nonvert.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Now that we're talking about behaviors, I'd like to get
into your nonverbal behaviors.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
My favorite is though, she says, maybe put your hands
in the air to indicate there's.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Nothing you can do slipping out lovely gathering.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's silly if you saw it, that's like, that's like
Brian Barry, I don't no, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I gotta go look at the time.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
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